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Speaker 1: Ever duples.

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Speaker 2: So the Professional Firefighters Union has called for action after

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Speaker 2: two firefighters got stuck up a ladder above that recycling

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Speaker 2: plant fire in Auckland last week. What happened as the

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Speaker 2: pair couldn't get down because the truck broke and so

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Speaker 2: they had to be rescued by the second truck that

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Speaker 2: was there. Now, Martin Campbell is the vice president of

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Speaker 2: the Professional Firefighters Union.

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Speaker 1: Ha, Martin, yeah, get out here.

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Speaker 2: The house going good, thank you. What happened to the truck?

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Speaker 1: Well, for whatever reason, the fire truck has broke down

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Speaker 1: in the middle of this major fire that happened on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, and as you mentioned, the two firefighters were

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Speaker 1: stranded and had to be rescued. So all emergency back

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Speaker 1: ups set normally kicking when the truck breaks down unfortunately

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Speaker 1: also failed, so those firefighters had to be rescued. So

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Speaker 1: now we're hoping that a full and frank investigation will

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Speaker 1: be done and why that happened and how it could

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Speaker 1: stop it again.

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Speaker 2: Has this particular truck had trouble before?

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Speaker 1: The truck has had had troubles all the time. In

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Speaker 1: the days leading up to it, there were several faults

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Speaker 1: with it, but unfortunately we just don't have the trucks

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Speaker 1: out there to replace it with. And we don't have it,

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Speaker 1: they don't have the time to be ables of dispose

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Speaker 1: spend some time and money actually making sure it's working properly.

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Speaker 2: What would have happened if there wasn't a second truck there,

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Speaker 2: a second truck that came to that just happened to

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Speaker 2: be there and happened to be able to get to

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Speaker 2: the height that was required.

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Speaker 1: What would have happened, Well, I hate to think worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario, those firefighters could have got severely burnt or

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Speaker 1: overcome completely with the tossic smoke. You know, we would

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Speaker 1: have had to do some crazy scenarios, well, throw ropes

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Speaker 1: up to them and they had to repel down or

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Speaker 1: something silly like that. So it's bigg as belief as

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Speaker 1: to what potentially could have happened. Now.

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Speaker 2: I know that you guys have some concerns because after

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Speaker 2: the Sky City fire, there was supposed to be some

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Speaker 2: sort of a draft strategy for dealing with these kinds

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Speaker 2: of trucks, and that's never got out of the draft stage.

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Speaker 2: Would that have made a difference.

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly the strategy that the review from the Sky

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Speaker 1: City fire as she recommended the organization do with haste

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Speaker 1: and still hasn't done six years later. Would have given

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Speaker 1: the organization their background, esther where its priorities actually need

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Speaker 1: to lay, how many of these trucks they need to buy,

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Speaker 1: where the trucks need to be located, and what type

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Speaker 1: of trucks they should actually be replaced with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Martin, listen, thank you very much. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time. That's Martin Campbell, who's obviously with the professional firefighters.

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