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Speaker 1: The old wool debates is back this time King Aura,

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Speaker 1: who would be one of your larger carpet customers. I

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Speaker 1: would have thought has gone nylon over wall, that is

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Speaker 1: despite a government directive urging agencies to use wool where

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Speaker 1: practical and appropriate. Another BRM with Chief Executive Greg Smith.

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Speaker 2: Is with us.

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Speaker 1: Greg, morning to you. Yeah, Monti, Mike, price is the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty four percent cheaper to go nylon. And if you're

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Speaker 1: building a lot of houses with a lot of carpets,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: You Oh, they never checked that was a thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we would have gone to extraordinary lengths to try and

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Speaker 2: get a contract, which is about six hundred thousand meters

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Speaker 2: over the last six years, and we weren't asked to participate.

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Speaker 2: So you know, those tenants and those homes missed out

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Speaker 2: on the chance to have you know, New Zealand grown

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Speaker 2: wool in the one.

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Speaker 1: Can you do about that? Because it's one thing to

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Speaker 1: be out priced, but it's another thing never to have

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Speaker 1: been able to participate when the government tells them to,

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Speaker 1: you know, at least have a look at it.

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Speaker 2: Well it's a bloody good question and there's no point

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Speaker 2: us crying in our milk over it. We're trying to

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Speaker 2: get on with it. But you know, we're doing a

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Speaker 2: lot of work with the Minister Mark Petterson, who's been

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Speaker 2: very supportive. But you know, in this case there's been

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Speaker 2: a directive. It feels to me like it's just a

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Speaker 2: rollover of the existing contracts. We've previously been asked to

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Speaker 2: participate in these and so this time we weren't. Next

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Speaker 2: time we'll have to. We'll have to try harder with

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Speaker 2: the lobby.

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Speaker 1: Hand on heart. If they came to you, could you

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Speaker 1: match nylon or would you have to sell them on

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Speaker 1: it's a bit more expensive, but.

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Speaker 2: Well solution died. Nylon and woll are often very comparable

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Speaker 2: in price. We would go after that, no problem. Or

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Speaker 2: I don't know where they got their numbers from.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you wool is competitive with nylon. If you're

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Speaker 1: dealing in large met ridge, absolutely what would that be

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Speaker 1: worth your company? Without giving away too much, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if someone comes to you for six hundred thousand meters

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Speaker 1: of carpet, that's quite a bit of carpet. It's more

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Speaker 1: than a hall runner, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's millions of dollars. It would be great for

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Speaker 2: for obviously, the will buy the will farms that we

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Speaker 2: deal with, it's millions of dollars to them, it's millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars to us. And let's say I say there's

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Speaker 2: no compromise on the product. There's no compromise in will

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Speaker 2: when you put it down in your home. It's a

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Speaker 2: beautiful product that it performs extraordinarily well and naturally without

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Speaker 2: all the chemical additives that since Otacas.

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Speaker 1: Exactly next time I get a minister and ask them

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Speaker 1: about this, because it doesn't seem right to me. Having

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Speaker 1: said all that, how are things generally the market, the

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Speaker 1: vibe the industry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's getting better. I'm happy to say we're growing good.

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Speaker 1: We can't argue with them. You have a very merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Greeg appreciate it very much. Greg Smith, bring with chief Executive. Yeah,

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