WEBVTT - Even Richie McCaw gets ghosted...

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<v Speaker 1>You tapped it, so we're playing it. It's ZM's Brian Clint,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Jim and McCaw has appeared on an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Between Two Beers podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Great podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>They get into all the nitty gritty.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't they get the good stuff out of people, those boys?

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<v Speaker 2>They really do.

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<v Speaker 3>They.

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<v Speaker 4>really put in the work to do the research on someone.

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<v Speaker 4>They talk to your close.

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<v Speaker 2>Network of friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>They do their research.

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<v Speaker 2>They really go deep.

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<v Speaker 1>So Gemma, former Blackstick, three-time Olympian, mum and wife of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest rugby player of all time, Richie McCaw, has

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<v Speaker 1>told a story about how her and Richie almost didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>It almost wasn't a thing. Take a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>I received a message from.

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<v Speaker 6>A guy called Richie McCaw said, hi Gemma, it was

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<v Speaker 6>really nice to meet you in Hamilton. And then he said,

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<v Speaker 6>good luck for the Olympics. I forgot to reply to

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<v Speaker 6>that message. I mean, he had Top Gun as his profile.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Tom Cruise, like Maverick.

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<v Speaker 6>Like Maverick, with the dog as his profile picture. But

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<v Speaker 6>that shouldn't be letting the secret.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you should.

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<v Speaker 1>How embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>So his profile picture turned her off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I got from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Richie McCaw.

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<v Speaker 4>She was ripping him out going, he had Maverick from

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<v Speaker 4>Top Gun as his profile picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what year it was. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he was rugby World Cup winning all-black captain Richie

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<v Speaker 1>McCaw at that stage or if he was just all-black

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<v Speaker 1>Richie McCaw.

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<v Speaker 2>What year did he win the World Cup?

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<v Speaker 1>2011 and 2015. Okay. They were definitely together 2015.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm assuming it was in between 2015 Oh, you reckon? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram only really came about in like 2011. Well, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that it was Instagram. That could have been

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<v Speaker 4>a Facebook message.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, it could have been. What year did Richie.

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<v Speaker 4>I reckon they got together 2013 or 2014.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my bet. But I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if Google knows. Richie McCaw and Gemma Flynn...

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<v Speaker 1>started dating in 2012. So you were right. It was

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<v Speaker 1>in between the two World Cups.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good. You win a World Cup, make your

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<v Speaker 1>profile picture maverick from Top Gun.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to say power move from her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, big time.

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<v Speaker 1>To leave him on scene.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't even know if it was a conscious

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<v Speaker 2>thing she did.

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<v Speaker 6>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, it sounds like she was bloody focused on the Olympics. Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm like, how do you.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like she wasn't all that impressed. Because if she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is, can I say, such a good way to

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<v Speaker 1>go into things.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>The best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody likes a Kino Bino. Yeah. You know? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is about... What is it about human

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics that.

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<v Speaker 4>You would think it would be a nice thing if

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<v Speaker 4>someone was keen on you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's something inside you goes, oh, they're into me.

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<v Speaker 2>Ew, yuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Ew, yuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if it's Richie McCaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they're into me. Ew, what's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 6>Ew.

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<v Speaker 2>They like me? God, they don't have standards.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, must have figured it out. Either that or Richie

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<v Speaker 1>double messaged like you did with Channing Tatum that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 4>But then, I mean, full circle, he was the last

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<v Speaker 4>one to message me and I've left him on read.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a true story, by the way, guys, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>new to the show. Currently in Bree's Instagram DMs is

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<v Speaker 1>a message from Channing Tatum That I haven't replied to.

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<v Speaker 1>That you haven't replied to, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever get drunk and get tempted to?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, maybe once.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so glad I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the lighting ever really good? You're like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>who would like to see this? No. Magic Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>One day, one day when we're all together, if you

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<v Speaker 4>remind me, if there's ever a time where we're out

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<v Speaker 4>as a show, you know, when we're on the cans and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you know who we should message?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Channing, then maybe. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and that day will come.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the worst that can happen? He leaves me on

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<v Speaker 2>read again?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh, no, the worst that can happen is he

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<v Speaker 1>unfollows you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would be sad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be honest, you're not using that follow for

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<v Speaker 1>anything good anyway. He was just sitting there.

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<v Speaker 4>And I could still talk about it regardless if he

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<v Speaker 4>unfollows me or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is that he one time did follow me.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole point. Exactly right. Which is one time more

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<v Speaker 1>than most people. We want to know, what's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that your relationship nearly didn't happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the thing that means that this whole life

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<v Speaker 1>that you have now almost wasn't a thing? Did they

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<v Speaker 1>show up to the first date?

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<v Speaker 2>In stubbies.

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<v Speaker 1>Bleeding.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, stubbies. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>With a cut on their face.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they show up and then they had norovirus and

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<v Speaker 1>they vomited on you? On the first day. On the

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<v Speaker 1>first day.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I feel like that would seal it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they trip? When you guys were walking up to

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant and... Knocked their two front teeth out. Knocked

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<v Speaker 1>their two front teeth out on the steps of the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they left an awful first impression on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you were like, never, ever would I end up

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<v Speaker 2>with this person.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they were wearing a Make America Great Again hat.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a dare, and they weren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that it was a dare. 0800 dials at M.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you can text us on 9696. What's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why your relationship nearly didn't happen? It's Bray and Clint.

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<v Speaker 1>Gemma McCaw has opened up about how she left Richie

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<v Speaker 1>McCaw on scene the first time he DM'd. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you think about his message, by the way? What was

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<v Speaker 1>his message again? It was words to the effect of,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Gemma, so great to meet you in Hamilton last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Best of luck for the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it, but then I don't because he's leaving

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<v Speaker 4>all the hard work up to her then.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's not really.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question in there.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no question for her to then want to answer

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<v Speaker 4>back with.

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<v Speaker 1>Should have included a how do you have your pad

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<v Speaker 1>tie or something, eh? Something inquisitive.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your order from your favourite Thai restaurant?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gluten intolerant? That's because that's yes, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your blood type? Asking for future reference.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you rank your tolerance of gluten?

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<v Speaker 4>Who is your emergency contact? Can I maybe be that

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<v Speaker 4>person one day? Which All Black do you think is

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<v Speaker 4>the hottest? Please don't say Dan Carter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true. These are all good options. We want to know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the reason why your relationship nearly didn't happen? Harmony's here. Hey, Harmony.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Harmony.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the reason, Harmony, why it nearly didn't happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, I had no intention of going on this date,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was just talking on Tinder, swiping and chatting

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<v Speaker 3>and had absolutely no intention of meeting any of them.

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<v Speaker 3>And my flatmate and friend, she was like, what even

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<v Speaker 3>is Tinder? And so I showed her my Tinder and

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<v Speaker 3>she was scrolling through the messages and the last person

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been speaking to was somebody who she worked with.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, how many you've promised him you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to go on a date with him since May? And

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<v Speaker 3>it was like November.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy smokes, Harmony.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it had been quite a long time. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, fine, I'll meet him. We'll go for a

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<v Speaker 3>drink tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>And we did.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we're married and have a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. So did she vouch for him because

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<v Speaker 2>she knew him in person?

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>She said he's one of the nicest people at her work.

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<v Speaker 2>It was meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't life crazy? And that if you hadn't handed your

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<v Speaker 1>phone to that person in that moment, you might never

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<v Speaker 1>have had that beautiful baby that you guys have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like the universe tried to put us

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<v Speaker 3>together another time because we were both in Vegas at.

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<v Speaker 1>The same time.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you might believe that it would have happened

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<v Speaker 1>eventually if it was meant to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have found each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would have found each other.

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<v Speaker 3>The universe was doing something.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You were drawn to each other. Cute. Thanks, Harmony. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Anonymous. Hi, Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the reason why you and your partner almost didn't

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<v Speaker 1>end up together?

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<v Speaker 5>Because he wanted to study for his NCEA Level 3 exams.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, was that his excuse for not wanting to hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with you?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, we were like, you know, back at high school,

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of have like that texting boyfriend kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I was like, well, you know, we should

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<v Speaker 5>make it official. And he's like, oh, yeah, but I've

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<v Speaker 5>got exams coming up. And I was like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>this is year 13. Like, this doesn't mean shit, basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 5>But, you know. We've been together for 16, married for 10.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wow.

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<v Speaker 5>And a cat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, it worked out.

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<v Speaker 5>I know. I wore him down enough, and it worked

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<v Speaker 5>out well.

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<v Speaker 1>How did he go with his NCEA level threes, though?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, he was bloody runner-up ducks at the school, wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>But are you saying that if it wasn't for you,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have been ducks?

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<v Speaker 2>He could have been the ducks.

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<v Speaker 5>He would probably say yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but then would he have got you and the

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful life you have now?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>No, absolutely not. I would have been long gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you could choose.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's worth more?

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<v Speaker 1>A wonderful life, children and a wife or ducks?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably ducks, eh?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, if I could get sports ducks, if I could

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<v Speaker 1>get sporting ducks, that'd be pretty sick. We asked how

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<v Speaker 1>come you and your partner nearly didn't happen. Someone said,

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<v Speaker 1>if I hadn't missed my flight home from Spain, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been sitting next to him on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your dream, eh?

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<v Speaker 2>That's my dream.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your dream. And every time Bree gets on a flight,

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<v Speaker 1>Bree's fiance is terrified that Bree's going to meet the

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<v Speaker 1>love of her life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she should just rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're just open to it.

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<v Speaker 2>She should rest easy, though, because me on a flight,

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<v Speaker 2>Not good.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're a man spreader too on the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have my mouth open when I sleep a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We said, why is the reason you guys almost didn't happen?

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<v Speaker 1>They said, because he had the same name as my

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<v Speaker 1>former partner. I ghosted him for a week because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was weird. He thought he'd messaged me, he

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<v Speaker 1>thought me one more time. 16 years later, we own.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, that would happen a lot with people, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>especially if you've had a long relationship with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>That you check out with someone with the same name?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you'd be a bit like, oh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if I want to date. Let's say you date someone

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<v Speaker 4>named Jack. For four years you date this guy Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, sorry. In my mind I was doing first name

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<v Speaker 1>and last name.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think it's just first name. Wild if it's

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<v Speaker 4>first and last name.

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<v Speaker 1>True, true, true, true.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and then you have an.

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<v Speaker 4>Awful breakup and then the first person you meet straight

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<v Speaker 4>after that is a guy named Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who would like it though would be my

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<v Speaker 1>dad who always struggles to learn the new partner's name.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, hey, can you make it easy for me?

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<v Speaker 1>I've only had three girlfriends in my lifetime and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>married to one of them. And each of them suffered

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<v Speaker 1>about a two-year overlap of the previous girlfriend's name.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you can never get divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You would send your dad into a spin.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I can get divorced. I just can't remarry.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad would just never understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone said we both saw each other's online dating profiles

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<v Speaker 4>and said no to each other. Then a few months

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<v Speaker 4>later we met randomly at an event and started talking.

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<v Speaker 4>Took a couple of more months to realise and figure

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<v Speaker 4>out what happened online because we both looked different from

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<v Speaker 4>our photos.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So eventually you ended up together anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, here's the moral of the story. If Richie McCaw

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<v Speaker 1>can be left on scene, then so can you. If

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<v Speaker 1>Richie McCaw, if even Richie McCaw gets left on scene.