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Speaker 1: Last night, Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown was on the show

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Speaker 1: and we asked him why he voted for co governance

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Speaker 1: and the white targets, and he told us he knew

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Speaker 1: nothing about it because he had delegated that decision making

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Speaker 1: to Ken Turner, who was another counselor who he trusts

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent on this. And Ken Turner is with us. Now, Hello, Ken, Hello?

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Speaker 1: Is that really what happened? Did he tell you that

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Speaker 1: you could do all of the decision making for him.

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Speaker 2: I've been beside this from the beginning by myself to

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Speaker 2: a degree, and in the governing body on the tenth

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Speaker 2: of December last year, it was just a standard vote

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Speaker 2: in council.

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Speaker 1: Okay, did the mayor ask you to vote on his behalf?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Well, what was he talking about?

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Speaker 2: Then? I'm not sure? I voted on my behalf? Unfortunately?

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Speaker 1: Okay, unfortunately, Well, I voted yes, and I should not have,

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Speaker 1: and I've apologized for that. Why should you not have?

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Speaker 2: Because the vote was just to go to public, not

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Speaker 2: to We were voting on the information that would be

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Speaker 2: given to the public to go for the have your

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Speaker 2: Say event for the public consultation, and I had taken

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Speaker 2: it for granted that the two options that I'd been

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Speaker 2: negotiating and sitting beside for nine ten months were in

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Speaker 2: the resolution. They were in the executive Summary, they were

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Speaker 2: in the analysis and advice, and I did not realize

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Speaker 2: they were not in the resolution until two months later.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what are you apologizing for?

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Speaker 2: Because I would have voted no if I had have

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Speaker 2: known that, and having voted yes and having people saying

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Speaker 2: this was unanimous, this was unanimous, has put me back

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Speaker 2: a few steps on a very important subject that the

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Speaker 2: community put me here to fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm guessing that the community is not loving the

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Speaker 1: co governance and the why targeting idea.

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Speaker 2: The community wants that park back. Yeah, the community, well,

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Speaker 2: why the park?

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Speaker 1: Why is it closed?

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Speaker 2: We're told it's for carry dieback, But that's been an

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Speaker 2: eight year precautionary approach. The last review that the council

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Speaker 2: did in twenty twenty two actually identified well. It stated

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Speaker 2: it walked away from the claim that it's humans moving

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Speaker 2: the photophrah around and it also admitted that tatafras everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Are you suggesting are you by linking the closing of

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Speaker 1: the park with the co governors? Are you suggesting that

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Speaker 1: the EWI is behind the closing of the park.

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Speaker 2: Behind some of it. I'm sitting here in front of

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Speaker 2: a twenty eighteen memory of understanding between the Council and EWE.

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Speaker 2: It's headed by Kaki Ranger's Regional Park Tracks plan and

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Speaker 2: in it at one place here Item seven sorry, Item

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Speaker 2: thirteen B. Forest isolation zones will be established in perpetuity

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Speaker 2: to protect gates to protect a symptomatic and healthy Cowori

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Speaker 2: catchments by exclusion areas.

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Speaker 1: Meaning what what does that meaning?

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Speaker 2: That permanent closure? By whom the council and Manafino seemed

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Speaker 2: to have these ideas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they've struck an agreement. Okay, ken, So do

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Speaker 1: you support this idea? If you?

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Speaker 2: If?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to get another chance to vote on it?

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Speaker 2: Are you? I hope so?

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Speaker 1: And if it comes up for a vote and they

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Speaker 1: say do you support this idea? Are you going to

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Speaker 1: vote yes or no?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: And what about the mayor?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought you, I thought you're voting on his behalf.

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Speaker 2: That's what he told No, No, no, no, he told us.

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Speaker 1: He's busy with the meeting in Saint Mary's Bay, and

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Speaker 1: he trusts you one hundred percent because you live in

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Speaker 1: the white Targatis.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's very nice of him, and on flat However,

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Speaker 2: I was voting for myself and I had no idea

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Speaker 2: that I had a job for the mayor.

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Speaker 1: Okay, have you written him a letter to explain to

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Speaker 1: him how nuts this whole idea is?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did.

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Speaker 1: Did he read it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know when I heard that. There was another

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Speaker 2: time when I heard the mayor didn't know much about this.

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Speaker 2: So I got in touch with his chief of staff

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Speaker 2: and said, you've got my letter. It was there five

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Speaker 2: days ago. Please make sure it gets in front of

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Speaker 2: the mayor.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so all right, we'll call BS on that from

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Speaker 1: the mayor. Then, thanks, Ken appreciated Ken Turner, the famous

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Speaker 1: Ken Turner Auckland Counselor.

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