1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: We've got the Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's international realty, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: So on the Huddle we have Ryan Bridge, who's still. 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: Awake, good evening to be very. 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Good man, and of course Mark Sainsbury as well broadcast 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: welcome back, Mark, get A Andrey. What you doing these days? 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 4: Well? Ah, well, bits and pieces. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 5: I still do a lot of well used to do 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 5: a lot of event work in a bit of media advice. 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: So are you can I just ask the question, is 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: the media so obviously you're preparing to actually become mayor 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: of Wellington? 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: Is it right? 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 2: Okay? Now, look, gentlemen, you have just heard a severel 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 2: and the battle against Leicester Levy And as I said beforehand, 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: you know, gosh, don't you wish we had a duel 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: and we could actually do ten pieces and you know 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: see what happens next. What did you make of that? 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: Ryan, Well, it's scrusioning wheat and shock horror. There's a 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: bit of scrutiny. I mean the problem. I sort of 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: agree with what Arsaberah was saying towards the end of 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: that interview, like are we being a bit precious with 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: the whole use of that phrase. But it's kind of 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: it's the right issue, the wrong approach. I think for her, 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: she's at risk of looking like she's playing the man 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: and not the ball. And she didn't need to bring 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: up the past because she said it was a history 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: of cooking the books. She's got a smoking gun in 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: the newsroom reporting from today that there was this financial 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: trickery that they were trying to do, trying to switch 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: the cost for some years, attribute them to others. There 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: was a whistleblower. The order to General says, you can't 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: do that. There's your smoking gum, that's your AMMO for 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: your session. No need to raise the passing discretion. So 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: I think right issue, probably wrong approach because the headline 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: now looks like you know Veral ghosts here. 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and that's Zach how I treated the interview. 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: That you went so ballistic that you've taken all all 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: detension off your message. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: Mark. 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'm a bit I'm a bit with Ryan 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: on this one. 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: I mean, in one in one sense, you could sort 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 5: of say, oh, look, you know that's is just a 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: fametory calling someone the cooking the books, lest the leave 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 5: he's been around a long time and he's suffered the 47 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: slings and arrows at most places that he's gone. So yeah, 48 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 5: I mean, you look at those select committee processes in 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 5: the UK, you know, once we had Murdock get the 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 5: pie in the face. I reckon, they're great and it's 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 5: a great forum to have a look at things. So 52 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 5: I think there's a bit of both. I think, yes, 53 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 5: she probably could have been more had a more fruitful 54 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 5: attack taking it from another way, but you know, it's 55 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: not the end of the world. And boy boy, I 56 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 5: mean I've heard worse things throwing around in that place. 57 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 4: Than that. 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, gentlemen, it's lovely to have you on the program. 59 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: We're back in just a few months time. 60 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate the 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: marketing of your Home. 62 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Mark Jamesbury and Ryan Bridge on the Huddle today. Mark, 63 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: can I ask you, are you a Nylon man or 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: a wool man when it comes to a KO home. 65 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, definitely, Wolf. 66 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: I think you know what if it's more expensive, well, 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 5: see this, this thing has to be a trade off. 68 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 5: Foreign number years ago to refurbish the beehive, they discovered 69 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: all the veneer that used has sort of come from 70 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: some endangered forest in Indonesia somewhere. You know, they're supposed 71 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: to and they have to sort of rip it all 72 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: out and do it again. But they're supposed to also 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 5: show an example. And if you're tutting government departments, try 74 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 5: and look support our industry, support local products. You know, 75 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: I think there should be a buying guide in supporting 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 5: New Zealand supplies wherever possible. 77 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: And I think in. 78 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 5: The wool industry needs us much support and get and 79 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 5: it's a fantastic product. 80 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree. Well, look they say it's 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: going to be thirty four percent more expensive to put 82 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: it in wool, But then the brimwidth guy and a 83 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: carpet mill guy have come out and said they didn't 84 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: even ask us. And you know, we see so little 85 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: of this carpet Ryan that that we could have sharpened 86 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: the pencil and be more than competitive. 87 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 88 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: I think the hold fire for a one eighty U 89 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: turn on this one. Mark Patterson, the Associate Agriculture Minister, 90 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: it sounds like he's going to do some tweaking to 91 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: the procurement rules and they'll reverse it. I mean, when 92 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: else do you get Farmers, the Greens, Winston Peters all 93 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: sitting down holding hand singing Kumbaya on the same issue. 94 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: And it's in the coalition agreement with New Zealand First 95 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: as well. There is a caveat on that agreement where 96 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: it says we're practical, and you could argue that maybe 97 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: with that cost in seventy five thousand times, it's not practical. 98 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: But I think they're going to go back to the 99 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: drawing board and they're going to come back and they're 100 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: going to one eighty. 101 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: Right, Well, okay, we'll see right, you're right, it's part 102 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: of the New Zealand First coalition agreement. But at the 103 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: same time, you know, doing preferential deals for corporates would 104 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: not be what ACT believes in. So the other coalition 105 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: partner we'll be saying, no, that's corporate welfare. 106 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 107 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: The most interesting part of the story, I think is 108 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: the wording in the document. I mean, why not even 109 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: allow the wool industry to apply to be a for 110 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: the contract of course specifically? 111 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: No, Well, I mean they might. 112 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: Discount their products and beat the nylon price, you know, 113 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: why not let them? That doesn't make sense to me. 114 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: I think it was a low level functionary who just 115 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: made a decision based on a gut feeling. 116 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 5: You record or else, Andrew, they could have said, you 117 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 5: guys are telling us to save money everywhere, Well stuff 118 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 5: you and your preference for the chief adoption. 119 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: Then you can wear it. 120 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about the lack of money. Of course, 121 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: we have the reports through that public sector Christmas parties 122 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: are going to be pretty sad that nobody's actually having one. 123 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: They can't afford to have one, and they're not even 124 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: going to have one and pay for it themselves. So 125 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: do you feel any sympathy, Mark. 126 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, look I do. 127 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: But look I can remember back in the days when 128 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: you know you're working at tv ands. The Christmas party 129 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: is greatly reduced over time, but it used to be 130 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 5: when you're working some of the Christmas party, who is 131 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 5: something you affward to all year. 132 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: That's gone. 133 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: I mean those days are gone when they started asking 134 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: people to pay for it. You organize it yourself, you 135 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 5: get a better do. But you know, once again, you're 136 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 5: in a public service. You just laid off sort of 137 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 5: whatever percentage of your work colleagues are down the road. 138 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: It's not a great look to be seen and then 139 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: spending money on a Christmas. 140 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: Okay, well here here's another point of view. It is 141 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: well known the public service pay packets are actually lower 142 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: than private area. So you've taken you've taken the hit 143 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: in your personal money to actually help the world, Ryan 144 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: and to help the country, and they don't even say 145 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: thank you by buying you a couple of shardies. 146 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: No, these bureaucrats don't even bother turning up for work 147 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: these days. They instead of working from home, they can 148 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: party from home and they can hear it on their 149 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: own dime. I'm not having I did feel bad actually 150 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: reading the story. It said that there was it spoke 151 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: about Crown Law. I think it was there's a Crown 152 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: Law Social Committee fund raising group. Yes, I mean how 153 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: that just sounds sad, doesn't it? Imagine someone going around 154 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: doing a sausage or happening around the. 155 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: Can. 156 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: I just say, the city council has been doing that 157 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: forever because they don't fund that sort of stuff. And 158 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: you've got all their managers. If they're going to say 159 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: thank you, they pay for their own pocket. 160 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: I let's create some envy here, you guys having a Christmas. 161 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: Well, of course we are do. 162 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: You have to pay? No any jobs going. 163 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: You can be Yeah, you can enter. 164 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: Ryan, Ryan took the job mate. You should have applied. 165 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 166 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 5: You must be the only guys running and breddy Well 167 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: you know you're successful. 168 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: Successful? 169 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: Have you every have you? 170 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: Mark Sainsbury? You caught yourself a broadcaster? You've never heard 171 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: of the word contract? 172 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yes, well, in fact we used to do that 173 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: in the We don't. 174 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: Know, sir, what stays and broadcasting stays and stays and 175 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: broadcasting you know what I mean? Thank you gentlemen, Ryan Bridge, 176 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: Mark Sainsbury. This is News Talk. 177 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive. Listen live to 178 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: News Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 179 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio