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Speaker 1: Together do for Clan nineteen past five. I'll get to

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Speaker 1: your text in the tick. Lotto is getting its first

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Speaker 1: big revamp in twenty years. There will now be more

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Speaker 1: balls in the powerball machine. At the moment there are ten.

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Speaker 1: It's going to go up to fourteen, and they're also

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Speaker 1: adding an eighth division now. Jason Delamore is the Lotto

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Speaker 1: Chief Executive. Hi Jason, hi head, Why are you making

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Speaker 1: it harder to win the Big One?

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Speaker 2: We're not necessarily making it harder. There's certainly a change

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Speaker 2: to the number of balls that go into the powerball drawer,

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Speaker 2: and that enables us to increase the size of the prizes,

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Speaker 2: both the entry prize from four to five million, and

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Speaker 2: there must be one from fifty to sixty million. But

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Speaker 2: it also allows us to introduce a division eight, which

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Speaker 2: significantly increases the number of winners that enjoy with Lotto

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Speaker 2: every drawer.

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Speaker 1: Forgive me if I'm wrong, because my understanding was that

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Speaker 1: by through the changes that you're making, it does become

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Speaker 1: harder to win that big Powerball, which is now which

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Speaker 1: is now sixty million up from fifty Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: Note that is correct from odds perspective, and you put

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Speaker 2: that in into perspectives, So that means on average winning

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Speaker 2: a jackpot the jackpot draw goes from every three weeks

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Speaker 2: to about every three and a half week, So that

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Speaker 2: probably puts into a bit more contexts that folks can understand.

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Speaker 1: Will we winning it too much too often?

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Speaker 2: That is a consequence if you don't keep the game

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Speaker 2: up to speed. So one of the things that has

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Speaker 2: happened in New Zealand since who made the last change

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Speaker 2: is our population is actually increased by over a million people,

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Speaker 2: and so it's very normal for lotteries to tune their

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Speaker 2: powder and their lottery games in keeping with the population.

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Speaker 1: Now, the new eighth division which you've added, which obviously,

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Speaker 1: as you say, will have more frequent little winners. What's

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Speaker 1: the prize? How small is it?

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Speaker 2: We've yet to announce that, Heather, So that will come

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Speaker 2: later on in a month or two. We're getting closer

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Speaker 2: to the full announcement.

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Speaker 1: Like give me, give me, because you know I need

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Speaker 1: to know. Are we dealing in hundreds of thousands, hundreds tens?

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Speaker 1: What are we dealing with here?

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Speaker 2: It'll be a smaller cash price.

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Speaker 1: What's small to you?

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Speaker 2: It's when you get closer to the day. Will let

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Speaker 2: you know, you'll be the first recall.

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Speaker 1: We had a discussion about this. Everybody has got completely

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Speaker 1: different different ideas of like, what does an acceptable lotto win.

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Speaker 2: I think you can have a lottery prize, on what

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Speaker 2: it will be.

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Speaker 1: I reckon anything short of five million. I'm not happy about.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 2: You're happy now you're into the bigger drawers are yeah? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well well we've interviewed a number of our what is

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Speaker 2: it of course, and people, even five million people just

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Speaker 2: find it's such a life changing experience.

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Speaker 1: So mhm, Jason, thank you. I appreciate it. Jason Delamore,

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Speaker 1: Loto chief executive.

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