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Speaker 1: Hello, it's Matt Heath here with a massive self source.

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Speaker 2: Now It'scared Bissies.

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Speaker 3: The twolveth of July twenty twenty four, and this is

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Speaker 3: the Daily Bespoke podcast.

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Speaker 4: Have you noticed that there's always these people in your office?

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Speaker 4: Jerry and I have a direct line of sight to

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Speaker 4: the notorious pants man's disk in the office. You know

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Speaker 4: how like some people, No, he's hot, That's not what

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Speaker 4: you're telling me. No, what I'm saying is, you know

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Speaker 4: how some people are just so good at not sitting

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Speaker 4: down behind their disk. Oh you know, there's a couple

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Speaker 4: of some people that just run that cutter.

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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, although, is he actually sitting at his desk?

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Speaker 3: But he's so tall that it looks like he's standing.

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Speaker 3: Because when Toddy the O Australian content are also known

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Speaker 3: as Pixy Campbell Todd Campbell, when he sits at his desk,

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Speaker 3: when he stands at his desk, he's exactly the same

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Speaker 3: height as when the notorious pants man Joel Harrison sits

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Speaker 3: at his desk.

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Speaker 4: So, which is amazing, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You sure he's sitting or standing? It just looks like

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Speaker 3: he's standing.

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Speaker 4: I mean well, first of all, he stands every time

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Speaker 4: here's a lady that comes in the room. He's straight,

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Speaker 4: you know. Oh he's a pantsman, there's no kind of

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Speaker 4: secret about that. But right now he is actually standing.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that is something that I should look out for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's hard to know whether he's sitting or standing.

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Speaker 5: What's that?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard to know where he's sitting all standing.

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Speaker 3: We're in the podcast, mate, what time do you call this.

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Speaker 4: Started? Yeah? What time do you we've done that?

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Speaker 5: Who did Let's get busy ah.

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Speaker 3: Jerry, I think we've done that. What time do you

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Speaker 3: called this? Seriously, what time do you call this?

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Speaker 5: Apparently it's two minutes into the podcast. I needed to

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Speaker 5: mate two and a half hour. I needed to go whiz, No,

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Speaker 5: this is what happens, mate, You can't Well, maybe you

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Speaker 5: guys should have waited for me. Did you think that,

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Speaker 5: like two of you are attacking me? But maybe you

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Speaker 5: guys are the ones in the wrong here.

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Speaker 2: We didn't.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have time. As a bullshit, we didn't have time.

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Speaker 3: We're under immense pressure.

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Speaker 4: A lot of feedback around yesterday's podcast, fellas, do we

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Speaker 4: want to go into any of that ship. We try

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Speaker 4: and keep business chat for about once a week on

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Speaker 4: this show. We don't really want to double down on that,

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Speaker 4: but we have quite a few questions. Do we want

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Speaker 4: to do this today or do we want to steer

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Speaker 4: off into.

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Speaker 3: A different All those person says, can you helmets please

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Speaker 3: stop beeping things on the podcast? I only crash my

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Speaker 3: ute the other day because every time I hear it,

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Speaker 3: I think it's some kind of pre collision runing. Could

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Speaker 3: you beat stuff to do?

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Speaker 4: I beat something yesterday? Yeah? Look three minutes No, that's

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Speaker 4: not how this works.

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Speaker 3: Well, what did you beat?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to turn the MIC's off and then no,

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Speaker 4: just tell.

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Speaker 3: Us what you beat and then you can beat it again.

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Speaker 4: Oh I was going to say, Oh my god, Sorr,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to beat that again.

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Speaker 3: I'm so pleased that you beat that.

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Speaker 4: I have to beat that again, Nail, you know it's Jesus.

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Speaker 4: So now this is going to be a real problem

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Speaker 4: because this man is going to crush his vehicle. Okay, team,

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Speaker 4: So if we could just keep this thing to a minimum,

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Speaker 4: And as I explained yesterday, I didn't mean to did

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Speaker 3: Mean did you really say? Okay, don't Jesus saying that.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to be home early today. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 4: to sit down for about three hours and beep shit. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So thanks boys. Well maybe I just maybe I just

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Speaker 3: You could leave it in. Oh yeah, leave that. But

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Speaker 3: what's the worst thing that could happen?

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Speaker 4: I mean, with a big ken, Jerry, so many bad

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Speaker 3: You know that there are no broadcasting standards that apply

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Speaker 3: to this podcast. Really, no, it's on the internet. Are

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Speaker 3: you sure you can say and do whatever you want

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Speaker 3: as long as it's not defamatory. Could you and I

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Speaker 3: don't think saying as defamatory?

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Speaker 5: Could you call the podcasts today?

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll stop.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it feels like I can feel the pain.

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Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, I can help you with this.

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Speaker 3: I can feel the past.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So what sort of questions did we get your system? One?

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Speaker 3: Final one?

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Speaker 5: I know, I'm good, I'm fine, I'm fine.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to say I don't need to say it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's it now though, Okay, that's it for you.

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Speaker 4: No more, Okay, buddy, young fella, all good, said enough,

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Speaker 4: it's clear I've had my fun. Okay, So once again,

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Speaker 4: are we going to answer any of these questions we

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Speaker 4: had about yesterday's business chat or we're going to keep

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Speaker 4: that to one?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, let's move on.

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Speaker 4: Really a lot of questions about your international warehouses and

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Speaker 4: stuff like that, the jerry that people were interested in. No,

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Speaker 4: people were looking at opening up businesses, you know, in

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Speaker 4: the other areas that are far away from their business

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Speaker 4: right now, and all that kind of thing, and people

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Speaker 4: wanted to clarify a few things.

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought we were going to get Liam Dan

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Speaker 3: on the show. So if we don't have Liam Dan

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Speaker 3: on the show to actually to move this whole business

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Speaker 3: chat forward, then there's no point in going back.

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Speaker 4: We'll get this as I sent yesterday this podcast to

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Speaker 4: Lim Dan and just thought, I said, hey, like we

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Speaker 4: He felt like, I know, it's crazy. It felt like

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Speaker 4: there was a load of shit that it was a

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Speaker 4: load of shit. Yeah, and there was He felt like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we got that, but he felt like something

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Speaker 3: he kind of felt like, well, yeah, what did he

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Speaker 3: feel like? He felt sixual undertones in there, and he

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Speaker 3: wasn't super stoked about that. Okay, I don't know what

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Speaker 4: So do you want me to go back to him

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Speaker 4: and say, mate, don't seen him a podcast? Sounds like

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Speaker 4: a fucking new problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't send him that. Don't send them Okay. Just

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Speaker 3: I know that you've only been in turning on the

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Speaker 3: show for a couple of years and you don't understand

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Speaker 3: these things in terms of broadcasting, but as it one

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Speaker 3: year and then as a person with thirty years broadcasting experience.

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Speaker 3: Don't send your hosts, sorry, don't send your proposed guests. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: the podcast especially not this piece of absolute crap.

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Speaker 4: Well used todas one wasn't a piece of absolute crap.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of proud of what we produced us TOD.

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Speaker 4: I thought we did a lot for small businesses right

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Speaker 5: Half of it was beeped.

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Speaker 4: No, just the part where I said, you know, okay,

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Speaker 4: that part was beeped. What did you say? No, I

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Speaker 3: Did you say that?

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Speaker 4: All right, you can say it once more, but afterwards

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Speaker 4: we're going to take a break and we're going to

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Speaker 4: come back, and then there's no more.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to say it. You do want

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Speaker 3: to say it, mate, I don't. Okay, I've said it enough.

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Speaker 4: Well, Ruder is mature enough to not say it's actually

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Speaker 4: I'm mature and it's disgusting.

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Speaker 5: But you said it the first time.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, but I made a very clear snow Rudor

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Speaker 4: that it slipped out. Well, okay, well now we're okay.

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Speaker 3: Definitely it would have slipt out.

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Speaker 4: Makes a good point there, that really makes a fine

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Speaker 4: point of taking it literally. That's a good point. And

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Speaker 4: I'm more were enough to be able to take that

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Speaker 3: But I know, but you'd be you wouldn't be taking

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Speaker 4: You know how in other languages you have different sayings

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that.

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Speaker 5: When you need it? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is get in trouble for this. You know

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Speaker 4: how these are saying for people, you know, taking it

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Speaker 3: You need to beat that alternative?

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Speaker 4: Do I actually have to?

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Speaker 4: Really because I don't know, so yep, I do have

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Speaker 4: formal and a formal setting. Oh, like maybe I should

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Speaker 4: just take that one on the You know, you need

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Speaker 5: So are you saying that? Are you misogynistically saying that

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Speaker 4: No, I don't mind you like you can choose. But

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Speaker 4: I was just thinking in terms of like a language.

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Speaker 4: I think that could be a fun thing to add,

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Speaker 4: you know, the English the English language doesn't like to

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Speaker 4: the place of you know, men say taking it on

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Speaker 3: You need to pick that. So this is a dumb question.

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Speaker 3: But inside of French and say Spanish and any other

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Speaker 4: What are they called, like it's called genderisms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gender for for nouns.

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Speaker 3: Is there call inside of those countries to not do that?

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Speaker 3: I can say that it's sexist language, is there or not?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there is, I don't know. That's well.

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Speaker 4: I can imagine also society in twenty twenty four would

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Speaker 4: find that that's also a relatively transphobic way to look

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Speaker 4: at things as well, you know what I mean. There's

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Speaker 3: So all French nouns are either masculine or feminine, with

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Speaker 3: So who's my senorita? Senorita is well, that's feminine, okay?

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Speaker 3: Yep, sure.

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Speaker 5: Again, sirs, your son do you not know what this is? Mate,

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Speaker 5: any of it at all?

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Speaker 3: Your sons?

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Speaker 3: If you write it down then I'll be translated.

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Speaker 3: The juy I heard juey which just play but I don't.

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I say, yeah, I think that that so ui ons

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: But so what was the what were breasts? Is your

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Speaker 4: Is there any chance that's something to do with taking is?

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Speaker 3: Could I know what it is?

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Speaker 4: People don't say it if it is that? Okay, Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 4: really you had to fire that up? Well that was

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: we weren't filthy?

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Speaker 4: Well, hang on, do I have to beat out this? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Do I have to beat that out?

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Speaker 5: I don't think you do, because how many people listening

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Speaker 3: I don't think you do.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be fun.

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Speaker 3: Can we wrap this up?

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 4: This podcast?

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Speaker 3: And you stopped?

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Speaker 4: No, I have stopped years.

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Speaker 3: Ago, Jerry, Okay, it payday today?

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Speaker 4: It is pay day today. Yes, I got paid leave,

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Speaker 3: Who's paying you?

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Speaker 5: Know?

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Speaker 4: That is the question? That is the question.

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Speaker 3: Do they pay you in CDs and like vouchers for

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Speaker 5: I still paid? Yet? That's not fair?

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Speaker 5: Are you sure it's paid, one hundred percent is paid.

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Speaker 4: I love it when we talk about pay day because

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Speaker 4: of my favorite things about this job is people think,

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Speaker 4: In twenty twelves doing a podcast, I hate to break

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Speaker 3: Well, we do this for free.

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Speaker 4: I mean, thirty years of success for free. Just cam

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Speaker 4: Gun started following me. Who's cam Gun? Do any of you

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Speaker 4: guys know cam gunn?

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Speaker 3: Cam Gun? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What about Hannahliki?

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Speaker 4: She sort of following me as well, Oh Hannah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Mash and I were talking about this offia the

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Speaker 5: other day. Actually, Jerry that quite often people will hear

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Speaker 3: You've always talking about the radio, But I thought they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that is what it's actually like. Ye was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's right because because radio stations are making

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Speaker 3: But yeah, well they do well though, I mean that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what are you saying of where doing well

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're leaving us there with that we're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've said that for years.

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Speaker 3: We're in the wrong industry. We know that we're doing

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Speaker 4: You know what you should have done, actually, Jerry, is

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Speaker 4: and said, mate, don't do it to yourself. That's what

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: What advice would you give to a young person who's

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Speaker 3: Because I had this. I had a young person who's

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Speaker 4: Do you want a serious answer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh, man, because this is quite a deep conversation that

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Speaker 4: don't know what what did you say to her? Out

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Speaker 3: Go and do something else?

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Speaker 4: Did you?

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Speaker 3: Actually? Are you sure you want to do this?

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Speaker 4: That's sad, it's changed a lot out there because now

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Speaker 3: Let's do this. You've got to do it because it's

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Speaker 4: I think journalists correct me if I'm wrong, but they're used.

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Speaker 4: It used to come from a place of curiosity for journalists.

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Speaker 4: They wanted to find out about things, they wanted to

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Speaker 4: And I don't think that's quite how it works anymore.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of people where it does obviously work.

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Speaker 4: Some people will do it incredibly, a lot of great journalists.

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Speaker 3: But some people were looking just to fly, oh, get

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Speaker 3: I got into badcasting, that's why I'm here, if I'm honest,

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's it's full on. That's a

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Speaker 4: great question and maybe we should think more about that

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Speaker 4: and come back and answer it next week. Be good

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Speaker 4: to talk to many about.

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Speaker 5: It as well.

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Speaker 4: I will say this though, jokes aside, is it is

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Speaker 4: to make some serious money, but it is worth it

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Speaker 4: no matter how much you get pay. I will say

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Speaker 4: that we've got the best job in the world, best

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Speaker 4: job in the world. And if you want to get

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Speaker 4: into journalism, because yes you love journalism, yeah, fucking go hard, mate,

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Speaker 4: go through caution to the wind.

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Speaker 3: I say, don't I say don't.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's lovely. I enjoy your weeknything else on that note.

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Speaker 3: There from Jerry, gon't do something else, enjoy your week.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things out there today.

446
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 4: What did you say she should do?

447
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know, because I don't know what

448
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: else you wants to do. But I said, if you

449
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know about journalism.

450
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know either, man, I don't know about that.

451
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: I work really really hard and get and for people

452
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 3: to hate you and and to not because this is

453
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 3: not really journalism. What we do is not journalism. Of course,

454
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 3: this is just kind of crapping on.

455
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 4: But we did it because if we're going to be honest, though,

456
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 4: it's because we wanted to entertain people from you.

457
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 3: That's a different thing, but it's kind of the only

458
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 3: way you can do that. But if you want to

459
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 3: be a journalist, I don't know everyone hates you now.

460
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: E un hates journalists. I think you paid much she

461
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 3: hates you. That's pretty sure to speak for people.

462
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 5: It's probably like back in the day, like a lot

463
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 5: of people at school have been. I'd love to grow

464
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 5: up to be prime minister. No animal, No, yeah, why

465
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 5: would you do that?

466
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 4: It's also because you know, people used to be able

467
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 4: to disagree with you. I think if the journalist wrote

468
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 4: something that you didn't agree with, you didn't automatic disliked

469
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 4: them as well. Is it something that I was kind

470
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 4: of thinking, No, I think you did. You did someone

471
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 4: wrote something about you that you about you mate, not

472
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 4: about you. If you wrote something for someone wrote something

473
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 4: about a story and it was kind of had a

474
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 4: slightly left or right angle on it, and if you

475
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 4: didn't agree with it. I think people used to be

476
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 4: a lot better at being able to go, oh, well,

477
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 4: I just that's not really the top of it, that's

478
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 4: not really my belief. So I'd like to leave that thing.

479
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 4: And then they were all good about that. They didn't

480
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 4: read it.

481
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: There's no feedback. Yeah, you read a newspaper, and then

482
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: who knows what you read what you didn't read of

483
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: that newspaper. You just bought the newspaper, and most people

484
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: subscribed to them, so it didn't matter what he'd line.

485
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 3: You ran, and then a subscription stayed. Even occasionally it

486
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: would spike if there was a disaster or something happened

487
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: that more people bought papers, but most people were subscribed.

488
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: And then who knows how much time each eyeball that

489
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: looked at those papers spent on each article. You didn't know.

490
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: But nowadays, because it's digital, you can tell what people

491
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: click on, how long they click on, and then at

492
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: the bottom of the article they can just write a

493
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: comment on their keyboard. But just sitting there and all

494
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: of a sudden their opinion counts for something. Before that,

495
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: the listener's opinion of the reader's opinion didn't count for anything.

496
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 3: You could write a letter to the editor, which was

497
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 3: then edited by the paper, and they decided the ones

498
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: to run and the ones that they didn't want to run,

499
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 3: and it took quite a lot of time. You'd sit down,

500
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: you have to write it on a bloody piece of paper,

501
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 3: and then you'd have to post it and all sorts

502
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: of stuff.

503
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 5: It'd be like, you know, twenty five years ago, I

504
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 5: could see a plane going through the sky and it

505
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 5: would leave trails and I could go up to Jerry

506
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 5: and I'm mate, I think fucking trying to get us

507
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: with chemicals, and Deery go, that's cool, man, that's awesome,

508
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 5: and Jerry can walk away and that's the end of

509
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 5: the conversation.

510
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 4: You could also still be friends after that conversation.

511
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 5: Ah. Interesting, good point. But now someone could do that

512
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 5: and go, oh, I know eight hundred people that need

513
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 5: to hear that, and then they send that to eight

514
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 5: hundred people, who then could send that out to possibly

515
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 5: eight eight hundred people, etcetera, etcetera.

516
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 4: You taste on an interesting point, though, Jerry. The metrics

517
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: have also changed for the Junos, haven't they. It was

518
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 4: once about the story, I guess, and unfortunately, and it's

519
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: not really the juno's fault or maybe it is, I

520
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: don't know. The goal post changed and the goalpost came

521
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: back to what you refered to just before, and that's

522
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 4: click numbers.

523
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but tabloid papers were always more popular through broadsheets,

524
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: interesting game, So that was always and that was always,

525
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: but it was going on. It was a balance of

526
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: a newspaper between running a little bit of that stuff.

527
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: And I mean the Herald has become more and more tabloid.

528
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: I mean that's a fact over time.

529
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: Going to ask you this, if you were a newspaper

530
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 4: of the sixty seventy eighties and you looked at what

531
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 4: newspapers are now, yeah, I think you'd probably look at

532
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 4: them all and go that's a tabloid.

533
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, they're all totally. I mean you've got papers

534
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: like The Guardian and I think Sydney Morning Herald. There's

535
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: a few papers around the Australia. There's a few papers

536
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: around the place that are still trying New York Times

537
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 3: that are they've got a they've got an angle still

538
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: they take a political angle, but they are definitely you

539
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: wouldn't describe them as hebloid. But that's just the way

540
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: that people have gone, you know, your headline news and

541
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: all that kind of thing. How did we start talking

542
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: about this? Sorry, if we got.

543
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 4: Any young juno's, apologies, any young junos do right to us.

544
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: Intriguing young jos listening to this.

545
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: Would be intrigued to see what kind of what motivates you?

546
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 4: And why are you doing this? Go hard fuck Jerry,

547
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 4: you know, like I am serious. Do give it a

548
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: crack because it's worth it.

549
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 5: And if don't take, don't take that comment in the context.

550
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 5: Go hard fuck Jerry. What.

551
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, it's not really journalism, though, is it.

552
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: No.

553
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: I'm not saying we're I never said that we were journalism. Mate,

554
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: there's a couple of fucking dudes sitting near cock and hands. Actually,

555
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: can we delete this that one? I feel like there

556
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: was actually some wisdom in there.

557
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: No, let's delete it. No.

558
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 5: I want Mesh to work hard for four hours to

559
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 5: find all those beaks that it needs to go about that?

560
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: Okay?

561
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 3: All right?

562
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: So, Jerry, are you saying that genalists should actually go extinct? Genuinely?

563
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 4: Do you think the world have changed if if we

564
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 4: just got rid of them all?

565
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: No? I don't think journalist. I think people should do

566
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 3: what they want. But if someone asked me, I think

567
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: people should do whatever they want to do, whatever job

568
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: you want to do. But if someone asked you, if

569
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: someone asked me, should I, I'd say no, No, I

570
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: mean I want to I don't want someone to do it,

571
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: and then look back and say, you know, Jerry told

572
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: me to do that, and I hated it. You don't

573
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: think back to when you were a young upstart and

574
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: thought about the reasons why you got into it, for

575
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: the likes of poor homes and that kind of thing,

576
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: and realized that maybe there might be some people out

577
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 3: there that are thinking the same way. But I didn't

578
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: really get into journalism, but I thought you'd mass what

579
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: on for. I just know what to do, So I

580
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: just sort of found my way laffing around.

581
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: Before you know it, you're getting been to have the

582
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 4: backwards by mikey ev It. He's pounding away, not on me. No,

583
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: I didn't mean that. That was more like backwards that

584
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: you guys know, you guys got to stay, you got

585
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 4: to stop taking it literally. Man.

586
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know with you, I don't know what's

587
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: literal and what's not taking shit literally stuff. It's very

588
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: hard to know what you're talking about.

589
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 5: Do you want me to take it?

590
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 4: Why are you turning on me, Jiary, I'm just because

591
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: I feel like it.

592
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 5: Go You're it's friday, end of the week.

593
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: Can we end this positively?

594
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 4: Oh?

595
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 5: Who got a text? An email?

596
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: Do you know what we should do? And it's something

597
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 4: that I've looked at thinking about for a while now,

598
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: and we should bring it in with Matt next week.

599
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 4: Listen to this goodness and it happens to me often.

600
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 4: If someone's phone vibrates in the studio and it is

601
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: visibly heard, whether that's a dang or a vibration, you

602
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 4: therefore fit the right to offer up your phone like

603
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: in school, and then another member of the team is

604
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 4: able to read that aloud on the broadcast.

605
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: I like this. I like this. This is good stuff.

606
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: This is ending on a positive note.

607
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: Thank you.

608
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: I like this idea.

609
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 4: I mean, my phone's the one that goes off the most.

610
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you.

611
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: I can't tinue your dang off.

612
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: I can't do my dang offs, but I can put

613
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 4: it in sleep mode.

614
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 5: Can't you tune your dang off?

615
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 4: It's because that switch there doesn't turn off.

616
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: It's annoying.

617
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can we can sort that. But I

618
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: thought there would be a fun little thing to do.

619
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 5: I like it.

620
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: It's just because we've been asked to clean up the

621
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: phone dinging in the studio, and it totally makes it.

622
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: It makes sense because it's slightly distracting.

623
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: So maybe we should turn that into content. Every time

624
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 4: we get told off on their show, we tend to

625
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: find a way to make it into some kind of

626
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: segment that management hates.

627
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: So let's do that. Could be it could be career ending.

628
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 4: But I'm just thinking.

629
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: You get a text yep, lovely TOLSI yep. You won't

630
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: hear my phone? Dang, oh it's a photo. I claim

631
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: my phone. I didn't think my phone.

632
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 5: What would you do?

633
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: It's part of the reason why I never bloody answer

634
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: my phone because I don't have my ring on either.

635
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: How come here always scrolling? Mate?

636
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: That's not from that's not from my phone, daning inge,

637
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: it's not hinge?

638
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: Are you back on hange again?

639
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 3: I actually I'm off social media. I told you I've

640
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: been off for two weeks now.

641
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 5: Hinge is not social media catches.

642
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 4: You on hand.

643
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: Life has changed. It's so much better without social media.

644
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 5: Well, Tulsi's onhnge obviously. Yeah, speaking of.

645
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: Hinge, Jerry's of what he thinks proves his list internet

646
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 4: really impressive one hour forty three average time last week,

647
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 4: and that was down thirty six percent since the leading

648
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: social Congrats mate.

649
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: Thanks very much? Am I am I a happier person? No?

650
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh really, no, not really?

651
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: You should get it back then you've tried.

652
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: No, I don't, I don't. I don't want to.

653
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: Who's ding was that?

654
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: That was mine?

655
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: What does it say?

656
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 5: Do you really email?

657
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: How this game works?

658
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 5: This is this is why I had a big old

659
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 5: smile on my face because earlier today off here I

660
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 5: talked to you guys about a rumor that I'd heard,

661
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: and you poop pooed me and said, oh, well that

662
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: can't be true.

663
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: Oh, have we.

664
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: Got a call?

665
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: Hang on? Actually this could be interesting. Have we got

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Speaker 4: a bargo email?

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Speaker 5: We probably can't, I hang on.

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Speaker 4: This is an awful advocate for the new game. If

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Speaker 4: we actually can't share.

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Speaker 5: This, no, I reckon, we can. I reckon. This is

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Speaker 5: a proper hot press release. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 4: I mean, no one is going to give a fight?

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Speaker 5: Well we will. And also the amount of time it's

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Speaker 5: going to take you to hear this podcast. By the

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Speaker 5: time it's edited, this will come out. So Jerry, because

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Speaker 5: you haven't seen the news experienced radio boss, well amazing

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Speaker 5: appointed head of Talk at News Talks. He'd being gold Sport.

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Speaker 5: That's why Stano is happy.

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Speaker 4: That's a great text. Okay, well email was it as

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Speaker 4: an email? Isn't that a great game?

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Speaker 3: Steno was head of that?

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Speaker 5: He was, but now he's just going to be head

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Speaker 5: of radio.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good.

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Speaker 5: Actual his actual job.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Oh like yeah, that's why he's out there smiling

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Speaker 3: away stoked.

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Speaker 5: He's probably known that news for a good month, but

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Speaker 5: unable to tell anyone.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I'm on the pest this weekend, boys ruder.

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Speaker 4: I'll see tomorrow at the Third League. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: ye see you Jerry tomorrow, not at the ABS game. Yep,

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Speaker 4: the old Dick is going to be Yep, yep, sweet yep,

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Speaker 4: Mommy to I'm going to be the nah that's a show.

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Speaker 5: And then afterwards, because I'm doing a double ender tomorrow,

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Speaker 5: are you. I'm doing a double ender, so I'm at

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Speaker 5: the third leg and then I'm at the art the

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Speaker 5: Glasshouse near Eden Park after the game, come along a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of stuff. I hope you've got a lozenge.

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Speaker 5: I've got a whole packet of lozenges, and I've taken

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Speaker 5: vocal steroids.

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Speaker 3: Have you've got a pack of doms in your pocket?

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Speaker 5: Number?

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Speaker 3: Don't get a lot of action, mateuse the asshouse?

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Speaker 4: What you said?

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Speaker 5: No, I've corrected myself. I said, oh, glasshouse. I get

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Speaker 5: confused sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Now you ever call ice house asshouse?

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Speaker 4: I mean these are mate. This is why you've got

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Speaker 4: to allow me and on these interviews with big time guests.

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Speaker 4: I know you think I'm going to embarrass the boys.

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Speaker 4: I'm not. But I don't miss tricks like this. I

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Speaker 4: would have missed. I wouldn't have missed over Davies last

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Speaker 4: week and I would have asked them, did you ever

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Speaker 4: get called asshouse?

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Speaker 3: Damn?

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Speaker 4: Great question?

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Speaker 3: Okay, damn it all right? Sometimes you sometimes you miss things,

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Speaker 3: all right, that's just the way it goes, and broadcasting

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Speaker 3: it's a great piece of wisdom. Sometimes you miss stuff.

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Speaker 4: Not after forty years, mate.

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Speaker 3: What's it called? It's called it's called going down the

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Speaker 3: stairs or something. There's some there's some term the Germans

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Speaker 3: have or the French have or something. But when you're

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Speaker 3: leaving a situation and you go, damn it. I should

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Speaker 3: have said it's the going down the stairs ass house.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, with their song electric poo oh.

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Speaker 4: Send them right now. Okay they didn't get enough credit there, joke.

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