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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: In a good morning you were Jack Tame through the

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Speaker 2: midday on News Talks, he'd b and one of New

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Speaker 2: Zealand's favorite Irishman's ed Byrne, is back in the country.

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Speaker 2: Ed is known for his Wow intellectual comedy I think

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Speaker 2: we can call it intellectual, and his TV appearances on

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Speaker 2: shows like QI. He even won the celebrity version of

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Speaker 2: the Chase. He's back on our shores with his Tragedy

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Speaker 2: plus Time tour and he's with.

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Speaker 3: Us held a good morning, good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: It is great to be getting to you.

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Speaker 5: And I want to double cheeck effect because I read

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Speaker 5: that you perform in New Zealand even more than you

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Speaker 5: perform in Ireland.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's a that's a fair comment, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 6: and I will I will sell more tickets in New

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Speaker 6: Zealand than I will in Ireland. About New Zealand being

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Speaker 6: a country with a population roughly the same and why

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Speaker 6: is that spread across a much larger area, so so

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Speaker 6: more traveling has to be done, but I don't know

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Speaker 6: where that is. I feel like when I do go

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Speaker 6: to New Zealand, people go, well, he's here, we know

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Speaker 6: how far he's come, so you know, well, while he's here,

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Speaker 6: let's go and see him. Well, I feel like when

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Speaker 6: I go to Ireland they kind of go like, oh,

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Speaker 6: well he's Irish, so you know, i'll bother you him today.

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Speaker 6: I'll see him, you know in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 6: if when he when he's you know, when he's on again. No,

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Speaker 6: this is it. Don't all think people are really cutting

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Speaker 6: on too that.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they just think they're going to be like they're

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Speaker 5: more likely to bump into you in a supermarket or

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Speaker 5: something like that. You know there's going to be something

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Speaker 5: that's you know, it's a bit more commonplace to see you.

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Speaker 6: Perhaps, Yes, I think that's it. I think it's definitely

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Speaker 6: the commonplace aspect is what makes people just not nearly

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Speaker 6: as excited about my arrival there. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 6: the entire country of New Zealand goes into apoplexy of

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Speaker 6: ecstasy every time I step off the plane, but I

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Speaker 6: think people tend to be slightly more excited and appreciative

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Speaker 6: of the journey I've made than when I fly to

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Speaker 6: Ireland for gigs.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's I think it's something akin to that,

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Speaker 5: and I you know, speaking on behalf of New Zealander

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Speaker 5: is perhaps the only thing that gets the more excited than.

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Speaker 4: Annied Burned too is the Chase.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but

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Speaker 5: I mean as popular as the Chases in the UK

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Speaker 5: and perhaps in Ireland. The Chase is like a social

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Speaker 5: phenomenon in New Zealand. So it plays right before the

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Speaker 5: biggest evening news in New Zealand, and so everyone who's

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Speaker 5: tuning in for the evening news, the last couple of

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Speaker 5: minutes before the news starts as the final Chase, right

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Speaker 5: and so there's there's this huge kind of social phenomenon.

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Speaker 5: And of course we've seen you win the Chase, so

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Speaker 5: that's yeah. So so just tell us about that experience,

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Speaker 5: because as like I says, excited as everyone is to

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Speaker 5: see your show, I really you're going to get more

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Speaker 5: than a few questions about the Chase.

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Speaker 6: You want to know about that? Well, it was actually

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Speaker 6: my second time appearing on the Chase. Yeah, first time

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Speaker 6: I did it as a as a you know, these

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Speaker 6: was it was me. It was me and Eric Bristow

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Speaker 6: ended up being the two that went through. I can't

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Speaker 6: even remember who else is on that episode was. I

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Speaker 6: feel bad because there was two other celebrities, and one

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Speaker 6: of them was Nadine Daries, who was it was an

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Speaker 6: the middle offer, showing you know, how easily swayed she

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Speaker 6: I'm no, I'm not a fan of this.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking I'm picking that on you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. And then so then it was me and Eric Bristow,

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Speaker 6: who's no longer with us, but who was It was

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Speaker 6: one point he buzzed in on a golf question and

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Speaker 6: we didn't win it, so it means nothing. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: then the second time I did it was for us.

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Speaker 6: We all made it through. It was a guy called

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Speaker 6: Dr Ranch saying it was like this TV doctor who

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Speaker 6: was the Reverend Kate Bottley, who was you know, she

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Speaker 6: does like a she's a reverend, but who does TV

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Speaker 6: presenting a lot of you know, faith based stuff. And

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Speaker 6: a reality TV star called Tough who came from a

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Speaker 6: TV show called Made in Chelsea and me and between us,

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Speaker 6: yes we managed. It's Ron Pome with the with the

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Speaker 6: Lions show. So yeah, to light of it. But they do,

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Speaker 6: I mean I can. I can talk about this all night. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you feel like I'm not letting you in. They do.

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Speaker 6: They don't. They don't cheat. They're not allowed to cheat

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Speaker 6: with with with TV talent, with TV quiz shows. They

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Speaker 6: still have to be above board. But what they will

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Speaker 6: do is they will tailor questions knowing what the interests

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Speaker 6: are of the people who are you know, who who

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Speaker 6: the celebrities are, and so you're aware that they're doing

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Speaker 6: it like that. At one point, the chaser got a

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Speaker 6: question about and the answer was pearl jab right, what

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Speaker 6: He was Sean Wall who went who Went Nirvana. But

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Speaker 6: you know, if you're even the most cursoryle bit of

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Speaker 6: research about your contestants would reveal that I am a

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Speaker 6: massive Pearl Jam fan, you know, like I have worn

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Speaker 6: worn T shirts in my specials and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: So so they do, it's not as great an achievement

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Speaker 4: I think it's still.

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Speaker 5: I think it's still an almighty achievement. Yeah, for what

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Speaker 5: it's worth, you know, it's a stressle environment and then

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Speaker 5: and to triumph on the chases certainly an impressive feat.

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Speaker 5: So so talk to us a little bit about Tragedy

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Speaker 5: plus Time because the concept behind your show is pretty unique.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's it's certainly a departure for me the show

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Speaker 6: that the term tragedy plus Time is. But it's attributed

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Speaker 6: to Mark Twain, but it's actually there's no actual evidence

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Speaker 6: he ever said it. But it's a definition of comedy. Basically,

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Speaker 6: it's the idea the comedy equals or humor equals tragedy

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Speaker 6: and examine that through the frame of two different tragedies,

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Speaker 6: one very minor that happened to me where I had

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Speaker 6: following night, and then a much bigger tragedy, which was

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Speaker 6: the death of my little brother, which was obviously far

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Speaker 6: more difficult to try and be funny about, you know.

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Speaker 6: But here we are, and I talk about the sort

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Speaker 6: with even when he knew he was sick, and stuff

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Speaker 6: like that. So it it sounds like a downer subject,

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Speaker 6: it has to be said. But the overall show is

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Speaker 6: I hope it's fairly uplifting and and certainly it's it

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Speaker 6: is full of jokes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's quite it's quite a it's quite

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Speaker 5: a it seems like quite a brave thing to do.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's not. It's not entirely groundbreaking. I mean, shows

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Speaker 6: mixing tragedy with comedy is something that people but has

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Speaker 6: worked very well for a lot of people that even

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Speaker 6: what Mash Scrubs, Friends, Ted Lasso, all these ones, you know,

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Speaker 6: a it's certainly a new thing for me. And it's

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Speaker 6: it's maybe it's a it's a path less traveled in

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Speaker 6: stand up compared to you know, scripted comedy, knowever, you

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Speaker 6: it's it's not unheard off put it that way.

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 5: But it's performing the show and you know, having performed

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Speaker 5: it a few times now, is it has it been

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Speaker 5: good for you? Has it been cathartic in a way

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Speaker 6: We've reached that point of the interview where I get

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Speaker 6: would like to say yes. I find it's very helpful

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Speaker 6: getting some stuff off mea chase. I jo't think overall

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Speaker 6: it's very healthy what I'm doing. I think breaking over

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Speaker 6: do for my mental health. I do also, you know,

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Speaker 6: think in terms of, you know, he died owing me money,

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Speaker 4: You do you walk when you're in New Zealand? Is

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Speaker 4: that something that you try and do?

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Speaker 6: I try? I do absolutely, and I have done the

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Speaker 6: last few times I've been out there. When I was

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Speaker 6: out there. Okay, so here's the thing. When I used

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Speaker 6: before she became my wife. Yeah, we actually I proposed

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Speaker 6: her in New Zealand. Before we had kids, we would

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Speaker 6: to like sort of space to tour out a bit

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Speaker 6: better so that we could then get some hikes in

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Speaker 6: to them, I'm going for a month and I will

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Speaker 6: be doing as much work as I can. But yes,

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Speaker 6: I will definitely least get I reckon two hikes in,

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Speaker 6: probably one on the North Island and one on the South.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a beam. That's that's a good aim.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty impressive that.

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Speaker 5: That, you know, you're kind of able to prioritize that

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Speaker 5: when you're when you're traveling, you know, it's it's quite

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Speaker 6: It would just be, I don't know, just be a shame.

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Speaker 6: It'd be like to go to New Zealand and not

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean. It's the hiking or tramping,

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Speaker 6: some tracks under your under your boots, yeah, would be,

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Speaker 6: bring the boots with me, I have to I have

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Speaker 6: that moment of customs. They got to take them away

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Speaker 6: and I radiate them and make sure there's no British

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Speaker 4: Does anyone else say tramp, let's.

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Speaker 6: Bring a plague of locust? No, only New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: It's a weird it's a weird term anyway.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, very odd term to my ears. To my ears,

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Speaker 6: it sounds like going out and hunting homeless people.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully you're not going to be doing any of that

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Speaker 6: In the country, beautiful jeers.

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