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Speaker 1: Deputy Prime Minister. How does that work. Is it like

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Speaker 1: the movies where if the PM goes overseas or fall sick,

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Speaker 1: there's a special ceremony and you get the launch codes

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Speaker 1: or is it more like an email falling situation.

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Speaker 2: Well, due to the lack of nuclear weapons, it's probably

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Speaker 2: more email affording. Look, it depends. I mean, if something

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Speaker 2: serious happens. A few times, I've been acting PM when

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Speaker 2: we had those Chinese ships in the Tasman and we

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Speaker 2: had the terrible floods at the top of the South

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Speaker 2: Island around Nelson. We you know, at one point we

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Speaker 2: had the crowd strike meltdown. So it seems that whenever

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Speaker 2: I become acting PM, there's some crazy thing happens.

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Speaker 1: So we hope it doesn't happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 1: Do you get the same powers not the same influence?

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Speaker 1: Do you get the same bodyguards?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean yes and no. In theory yes, but

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Speaker 2: of course you know, Chris himself while being Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: as part of a cabinet that has to agree to

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Speaker 2: what's going on. So I'm in that under that constraint

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Speaker 2: just like anyone else.

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Speaker 1: Ah, right, it's not the executive American president.

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Speaker 2: People look at people, look at the particularly the current

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Speaker 2: American president, who is loose. He's certainly very assertive and

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Speaker 2: decisive and brings about a lot of rapid change, and

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Speaker 2: some people say, why can't you guys do that? And

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Speaker 2: the truth is, for better or worse, I would say

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Speaker 2: probably better. We have cabinet government where the government is

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Speaker 2: a cabinet of twenty and we all have to hang

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Speaker 2: together on our decisions, which means that, you know, you

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Speaker 2: don't get the same sort of rapid change, but that's

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Speaker 2: probably for the best. Are there any sweet perks? The

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Speaker 2: only sweet perk? I'm not into perks, but there's one

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Speaker 2: that I just I will claim is if you have

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Speaker 2: the diplomatic protection squad with you, they have things like

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Speaker 2: handcuffs on them so they can't go through the security

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Speaker 2: and as a result, you get to skip the airport's security.

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Speaker 2: So that's the one perk. God, I've never been a

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Speaker 2: pert guy, but that's the one I will claim.

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Speaker 1: I would take that big time. What's Winston Peter's actually like?

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Speaker 1: Is he a grumpy old man or is that just

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Speaker 1: for the cameras.

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Speaker 2: I think he's very good at presenting. Come on, he'd

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Speaker 2: like to present I think between us we've managed to

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Speaker 2: work well, and that's probably the outcome that people are

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Speaker 2: most looking for.

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Speaker 1: Is a good chat or is he but short?

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Speaker 2: Look. I think all of us are preoccupied with doing

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Speaker 2: our own jobs, so as a result, you don't get

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Speaker 2: a lot of that