1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Darcy Waldgrave sports store coasters with me, Hello, dars Hi. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Harry Plumber going to ditch the All Blacks? 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't say ditch the All Blacks. He's going 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: to go to France where he's going to make a 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: decent amount of money before he has to retire and 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: live in a lovely part of the world. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: How is how he's going? 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: According to producer Ants, medicament is where the micheline man. 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Comes from, the actual micheline man. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: You know of the tires, Yeah, not not the the 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: three stars with the rolls, the big guy and they 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: invented that before tires became black because they were white 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: before that. But they had to strengthen tires somehow, so 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: they added to compound to make them more durable, and 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: then tire has been from white to black. 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Has he been playing on the internet again? Google? 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: It's about tires. I haven't gone anywhere near Google every 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: now and then. You know, I've got I've got something 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: in my head that I can black. 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Out that's interesting and weird facts. But why would Harry 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Plumber be doing this because isn't he just being lined 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: up not be in the All Blacks? 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Well, you've got to determine your why why do you 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: play rugby? What are you in it for? Yeah, some 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: people want a black jersey. Some people want to be 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: an all black, They want to create history, they want 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: to go blah blah blah blah blah. Other people probably 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: start wanting to do that and just what make And 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: then they go, you know what, this is a job, 30 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: and I know that sounds very romantic. He may have 31 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: even started negotiating this before he got given his cap. 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: You don't know. He had a good time with the Blues, 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, verse five eight, second five eighth, and they 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: might come to and say, well, you know what, do 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: you want to come play for us? Because you probably 36 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: aren't likely to be an all black? And then he 37 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: got selected. But then he's turned around in the fullness 38 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: of time, he's going to go, well, I've got three 39 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: four people in front of me. Am I actually going 40 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: to be able to play? Or am I going to 41 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: be constantly training and carrying luggage? And how much? 42 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't how old? 43 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: Say wouldn't you twenty six? 44 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: You made it sound like he was so old that 45 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: it was nearly the end of his career. 46 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: No, it's not nearly the end of his career. But 47 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: you know what rugby's like, doesn't You don't last long? 48 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: One decent pam and it's all over. So I commend them. 49 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Good on them, And for people complaining about that we're 50 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: going to lose all of our young players, were going 51 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: to lose all blaa. We create so many brilliant players 52 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: we can't employ them all. This is possible. 53 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: We have got money. I'm here. It doesn't look like 54 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: we're making that many brilliant players, does it? Because the 55 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: World Rugby Awards are out? And have we got any 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: of our fifteen's players and the men's all the women's 57 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: squads through to like Player of the Year. No, when 58 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: was the last time that happened? 59 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Does it matter? 60 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: It's not good though, it doesn't matter. 61 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: I don't want to appear jawnedice by this. But anyone 62 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: who knows me and my words for the last however long, 63 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: knows that awards ceremonies are stupid? 64 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Are they? 65 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: Yes? 66 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Okay? They mean, says someone who lost him any awards. 67 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: Nothing. I've won a few, I've lost a few, but 68 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: there's one of is. It's just you get to get there, 69 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: You clip on a suit, you drink with some of 70 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: your colleagues. It's a great social occasion. 71 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: But what I'm on but they don't fair enough. 72 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Play on boots. So you can become a World Rugby 73 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: Player of the Year you put on boots to win. 74 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: But if you actually looked at our squad, there aren't 75 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: any of them that you think, geez, that is the 76 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: standout player in the world in that position. 77 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: Who makes the decision or just abundantly. 78 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: Clear to us who is awesome and who's not. 79 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Awesome. 80 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Marcus Marcus Smith, He's wicked. 81 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: So we've got we've got some sevens players in and 82 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: we've got some emerging talent coming through, which is good. 83 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: What is one of the emerging talents coming through? And 84 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: he's got a couple of guys up against them. 85 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: South Africa's got three in the men's fifteen. Player of 86 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: the Year. 87 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Is one of my favorites, and they are world champions. 88 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: They're almost impossible to beat. You kind of get that. 89 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: So it's a reflection to a degree of what you 90 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: achieve at that level. But I think people don't play 91 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: rugby getting the World. 92 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: Monico and being simplistic about this, it is a reflection. 93 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: It's a reflection of how well, your players are playing right, 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: because they will get recognized that these awards, if they're awesome. 95 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Isn't James Low from Ireland to Kiwi? But yes, okay 96 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: you got one in there. I wouldn't try the year. 97 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Oh right, Okay, there you go. Well he's not really 98 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: He's Irish, now, isn't he? I just I think that 99 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: we interested in Super Championships, any PC titles and World Cups, 100 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: holding the Buddhaslow Cup, beating the South Africans. There are 101 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: so many more things that important. Say tell me who 102 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: the Player of the Year was two years ago? No, 103 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't know either. It doesn't matter. You could suit 104 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: only to. 105 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: You run this out at seven o'clock starts talking. Just 106 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: get your ass handed to you by the callers. No 107 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: I won't because I'm right anyway, give them a hard time. 108 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: If you're listening at seven o'clock. 109 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: That's when we're talking. Harry Plummer tonight with the Player 110 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: Agent two by the bye. Simon Porter joins us from. 111 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Halo's Darcy Water Goes Store Coast. He'll be back at seven. 112 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Hit them hard for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 113 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 114 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: Or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio