1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: The dairy farmers are happy. The milk price has cracked 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: double digits. Fonterra has raised its forecast farm gate milk 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: price by fifty cents to a mid point of ten dollars. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: And that is the second rise in less than a month, 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: and the company says it's due to strong demand from 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: China and Southeast Asia. Andrew Murray is Fonterra's chief financial officer. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: He knows the money, he knows the figures, and he 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: joins right now. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Hello Andrew, good evening, How are you good? 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I would say the farmers are very good too, aren't they. 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's certainly to feedback that we've had early 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: on is yeah, it's very positive from the farmer beef. 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: The company says it's due to strong demand from China 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: and Southeast Asia. Now, please come on. About eighteen months ago, 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: far the GDT, the global dairy trade auction figures were 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: going down and people were saying the Chinese economy appears 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: to be tanking. This is looking bad and there were 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: lots of warnings for farmers. So can you please explain 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: to me how come China, who have still not recovered, 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: are actually driving this growth. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the core behind it, actually, I 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: would say is is the is the domestic production. And 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: so last year there was quite a lot of domestic 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: production in China that got turned into milk powder, and 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: so there was a lot of inventory around that has 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: been exhausted. They've rebalanced their heads domestically within China and 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: so we're seeing that demand come back pretty stronger. And 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: then the other side, of course, is just that you know, 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: US production is very flat, European production is down, so 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: the demand from imports is pretty good from our perspective, 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: and we've had a strong start to the season as well. Well. 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: There, this is good news. What about Southeast Asia? What 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: would win? 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: So well there, Oh, look, it's actually pretty across the board, 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: to be honest, there's nothing specific. It's it's in line 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: with how it's been for yeah, at least the past 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: twelve to eighteen months. So it continues to be a 38 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: strong market for us. You'll see that, you know, if 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: you if you look a little bit into GDT, you'll 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: see China is definitely stronger in the last in the 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: last few options. So as we get as we really 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: push up that, you know, the milk price fee does 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: tend to bond off a little bit. They don't tend 44 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: to be quite as much in terms of high prices 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: as the chain of bios do. And we're seeing that 46 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: play out a little bit there. 47 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: Okay, it's not all good news, butter what's wrong with better? 48 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: There's some five point two percent? And the other one 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: is Mozzarella, which has been going down a big time. 50 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: It's on four point five to one auction and six 51 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: point six last night. What's happening there? 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, we've we've to be honest, we've been waiting 53 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: for a little bit of that reversion to happen. So 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: you know that that's the stream returns turning back a 55 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: little bit normal. So certainly when you look at that 56 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: again compared to what's happening in Europe and US, we've 57 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: been expecting them to come off a little bit. So yeah, 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: that's something that we've been waiting on, probably for a 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: few months. Done. 60 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: Well, you're getting rid of you know, your value added brands, 61 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: you know, the mainland and the anchor and stuff like that. 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Would there ever be a day where you just said 63 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: to Mozzarella, I'm sorry, your day is done. 64 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if we're in that space. 65 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that's well, that's good news. And here's the other 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: thing that I find interesting. You going to raise the 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: fangate price, but your profit for the first quarter is 68 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: actually down like thirty percent. So that's two hundred and 69 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: sixty three down from three hundred and forty six million. 70 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: So how come you're paying your you know, your shareholders 71 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: more and yet your profit's gone down. 72 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think the key in this one is, 73 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: you know, our profit was still really strong for the quarter. 74 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: If you're compared to that quarter last year, we've probably 75 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: had the milk price that was, you know, over two 76 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: dollars less than it is now, and so obviously you 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: know that we'll see that come through in the actual 78 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: profit result. But still a very strong quarter for us. 79 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: And you see, actually from a margin perspective, better than 80 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: than two four last year. So we actually feel really 81 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: good about the quarter numbers that they're in a good space. 82 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: But you know that the key is that we've got 83 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: a very strong balance sheep with what hard over the 84 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: last few years to get ourselves into really good shape. 85 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: You know, if I look at these changes, you know, 86 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: the milk price going up, et cetera. I mean, that's 87 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: that's you know, a good few hundred million. That's that's 88 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: going into the farmer's pockets in January above what we expected. 89 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: But the strength of the balance sheet is really is 90 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: to do that true. 91 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: And you also have costs as you change your business model, 92 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: so that might affect things in the short to medium. 93 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look, we've got that well planned. And you 94 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: know we've reformed the guidance for the year in that 95 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: forty to sixty Saints push year arrange. That's that's largely 96 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: in language last year. So yeah, we're feeling all key 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: in terms of hope. We're cleaning out for the rest 98 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: of the year. 99 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: All we have to say now is congratulations, are a 100 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: good result and long may they continue. 101 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, so thank you. 102 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: That is Andrew Murray. He is Fonterra's chief financial officer. 103 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 104 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 105 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.