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Speaker 1: Nine minutes after four year on news talk s b

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Speaker 1: over in Australia. So we all know about the campaign

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Speaker 1: that our government has launched. Here the slogan everyone must Go.

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Speaker 1: It's been likened to a clearance sale. And now an

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Speaker 1: Australian lawyer is warning ossies considering a trip coming to

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Speaker 1: New Zealand to quote go at your own risk. He says.

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Speaker 1: Since acc was introduced in the seventies, we've become a

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Speaker 1: legal liability free zone with no safety culture or ability

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Speaker 1: to get compensation for injury or death. He's the director

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Speaker 1: of Carter Capner Law. Peter Carter is his name, and

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Speaker 1: he's with me this afternoon. Hi, Peter, go after and Ryan, Well,

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Speaker 1: you've really set the cat amongst the pigeons with this one,

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Speaker 1: haven't you.

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Speaker 2: Well. I don't mean to offend New Zealanders at all.

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Speaker 2: I know that it's it's not good to comment on

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Speaker 2: other countries' protocols, but it's important that the Australians know

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Speaker 2: exactly what goes on there in terms of injuries caused

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Speaker 2: by rick us or careless conduct.

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Speaker 1: This is because we have a CC you essentially can't

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Speaker 1: sue us if a car hits you on the street here,

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Speaker 1: you can't an Australian can't sue.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and we see that as very odd and

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Speaker 2: very anti consumer. But the point is that when Australians

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Speaker 2: go to New Zealand, the ACC stops paying as soon

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Speaker 2: as they land back in Australia, so they're an extreme disadvantage.

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Speaker 1: When you get back to Australia. Is there no government

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Speaker 1: assistance for you whatsoever or just for loss of income

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Speaker 1: like you'd get presumably get health cover there.

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Speaker 2: Well you could get health cover, yes, under Medicare and

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Speaker 2: but no, there's no no replacement income at all that

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Speaker 2: does that just doesn't happen. So Queensland. Sorry, I'm from Queensland,

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Speaker 2: but I speaking on behalf of all Australians. If they're

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Speaker 2: maimed on a road in New Zealand or orphaned there,

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Speaker 2: breadwinner parent dies, they can't get anything to replace the

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Speaker 2: income that has lost because of that tragedy that happened

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Speaker 2: on New Zealand soil.

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Speaker 1: What's the situation and other holiday destinations for Australians.

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Speaker 2: Well, most countries have very good compensation rights. New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is an outlier. There aren't many places in the world

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Speaker 2: like that. So most other countries, United Kingdom, the United States,

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Speaker 2: Canada all have compensation systems that hold people accountable and

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Speaker 2: the people insure against that, and it's the insurance that

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Speaker 2: pays that loss of income into the future. For some reason,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand decided that they do it on their own

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Speaker 2: and go a different direction in the early seventies. As

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Speaker 2: you say, but Queens, sorry, Australians need to be aware

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Speaker 2: of that before they decide to travel New Zealand, because

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Speaker 2: they do go at their own risk.

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Speaker 1: But do you just get insurance, don't you?

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Speaker 2: Well, travel insurance covers you while you're away, but once

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Speaker 2: you land back in Australia, once you set foot back

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Speaker 2: in Australian soil, travel insurance also stops. So no, it's

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Speaker 2: not easy to get insurance for that.

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Speaker 1: Have you be Have you come and visited us? Have

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Speaker 1: you been to New Zealand before?

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Speaker 2: I have? Indeed a very nice place. I like it,

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Speaker 2: but I'm extra extra careful because of those risks.

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Speaker 1: Well, so you don't cross the road or you just

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Speaker 1: care that when you do.

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Speaker 2: I try to avoid crossing the road.

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Speaker 1: Really do you come here in cotton Wool?

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Speaker 2: Well you do? Look, as I said, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to offend New Zealanders.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry it is don't worry about offending us. Don't

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Speaker 1: worry about that.

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Speaker 2: It is a real risk. Is a real risk. You're

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Speaker 2: not you don't have that. You do have the acc

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Speaker 2: that will look after you after an accident, but visitors

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Speaker 2: from other countries don't and they need to be aware

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Speaker 2: of this particular risk.

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Speaker 1: Interesting point, Peter, thank you very much for that. I

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Speaker 1: don't expect. I don't expect you did the bungee.

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Speaker 2: Then, certainly not.

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Speaker 1: Peter Carter, great to have you on the show. That

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Speaker 1: is the director of Carter, Captain of Law in Brisbane.

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Speaker 1: Peter Carter just making the point, which is I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a fair point to make, isn't it, because the

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Speaker 1: system really does work for us. I mean it's it's

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Speaker 1: great for you if you're in New Zealander, but if

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Speaker 1: you're a foreigner coming here, and we did look, I've

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Speaker 1: just had someone text and what about Balley and Thailand?

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Speaker 1: Will all the Aussies love to go? I did ask

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Speaker 1: our producers to have a look at that, and they

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Speaker 1: have you pay one hundred and fifty percent of the

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Speaker 1: local health costs. You will pay while you're there, and

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Speaker 1: then presumably you would just sue them. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: someone hit you with their car or whatever, would just

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Speaker 1: sue them.

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