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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from US Talk Seat by Squeaky Door.

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Speaker 2: Or Squeaky Floor.

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder

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Speaker 1: on us talk Sead Bay.

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Speaker 3: The house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 3: grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when the

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Speaker 3: dog is too old to barn, And when you're sitting

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Speaker 3: at the table trying not to stop scissor hole, even

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Speaker 3: when we've a band ball, even when you're there alone,

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Speaker 3: house sizzle, even when those ghost even when you going

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Speaker 3: around from the ones you love.

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Speaker 4: Your mom.

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Speaker 2: Screamed on broken pains, being in front of.

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Speaker 3: Locals, visible when they're gone and leaving them even when.

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Speaker 2: Wilbra Then.

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Speaker 5: Even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 2: Well, very very good morning, and welcome along to the

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Speaker 2: Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Peter wolf Camp,

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Speaker 2: the Resident Builder. And if you've got a building question,

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Speaker 2: well this is the place for you. Notice I changed

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Speaker 2: that slightly. Normally I'd say if you've got a building question,

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Speaker 2: I've got the answer. Today. Maybe I'm feeling more cautious

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Speaker 2: around these things. I don't know why. For some reason,

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Speaker 2: I just feel that you know maybe there isn't always

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Speaker 2: an answer, or maybe well they should be. It's building.

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Speaker 2: It's got to stay up right. But if I don't

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Speaker 2: know the answer, I'll find out for you. Let's put

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Speaker 2: it that way. So I don't know a moment of

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Speaker 2: self doubt at the beginning of the show. There, let's

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Speaker 2: rip into it because this is fast and furious. On

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Speaker 2: the second of November, we've got a pack show and

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Speaker 2: we've got to be out of here a little bit

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Speaker 2: earlier because there's a little thing called the All Blacks,

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Speaker 2: or a little team called the All Blacks. They're playing

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Speaker 2: the Irish. They're doing it in Chicago. Actually, good bait

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Speaker 2: of mine, Ollie is over there watching it as well.

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Speaker 2: And that's going to kick off literally at nine o'clock,

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Speaker 2: which means the pre match commentary starts from around eight thirty,

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Speaker 2: So hard into the show at eight thirty for us,

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Speaker 2: or just a bit beforehand. The Rid's coming is going

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Speaker 2: to be available to take your gardening questions. From eight

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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, we are talking with Mark Brown. I'll

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Speaker 2: explain more about Mark Brown and his role with Auckland

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Speaker 2: Council around construction demolition waste a little bit later on,

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Speaker 2: but he'll be on from about seven forty five. Jay

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Speaker 2: our painting expert, is going to join us from Razine

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Speaker 2: at around seven twenty this morning, So if you have

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Speaker 2: a painting question, text those through to me. You can

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Speaker 2: start texting now if you wish, You've got to text

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Speaker 2: that through by seven twenty five. Which all of this

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Speaker 2: got a question, don't sort of wander around getting a

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Speaker 2: you've got a question, you should call now because it's

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Speaker 2: going to be, like I say, fast and furious, short

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Speaker 2: and sharp show this morning. Lots to talk about, lots

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Speaker 2: you've got projects that you want to get cracking. You'd

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Speaker 2: me now, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can

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Speaker 2: But the most important thing to do is just get

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Speaker 2: on the blower. Give us a call. Eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty is that number. We're talking all things building

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Speaker 2: and construction. Trust you've had a good week. The days are,

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Speaker 2: So there are some road closures and some diversions, and

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Speaker 2: is the number to call. Plenty happening in the big

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Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

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Speaker 2: Your news talks HEB. Of course, if you've got a question,

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Speaker 2: you can also text it through. That's nine two nine two.

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Speaker 2: And if you've got a specific painting question, our painting

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Speaker 2: expert Jay Sharples from Razine will be with us from

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Speaker 2: seven to twenty five, So any specific painting questions, fire

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Speaker 2: them through or like this text to hey. Pet is

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Speaker 2: finger jointed shiplap pine cladding long lasting from ron So

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Speaker 2: Shiplap or not shiplap. Finger jointed pine is a way

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Speaker 2: the only times that I've seen it deteriorate is when

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Speaker 2: timber rather than in the finger joint. So again, if

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Speaker 2: boards that I put up were probably not finger jointed.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, if it's there and it's

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Speaker 2: I have too many hesitations around using It might be

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Speaker 2: different if it's clear finished, but if it's painted absolutely oh,

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Speaker 2: in the whole building world MC Modern methods of Construction,

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Speaker 2: Modern methods of Construction had Actually it was a great conference,

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Speaker 2: to how we typically build in New Zealand. So typically

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Speaker 2: is fine. It gets stood up, the mid floor gets

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Speaker 2: with three level dwellings, another lot of mid floor, then

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Speaker 2: some more frames, then some trusses arrive, then some perlins

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Or this modern methods of construction

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Speaker 2: with exterior cladding on them, potentially even with windows installed,

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Speaker 2: come as a component. So what we're looking at is

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Speaker 2: speed to enclosure, because having our frame sitting there in

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Speaker 2: so on generally not such a good thing. So if

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Speaker 2: it's already wrapped and it's already where the proof and

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Speaker 2: you can build quicker. That's got to be an advantage.

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Speaker 2: So that was the nature of the conversations at Collab

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Speaker 7: Thanks very much, Peter, all right, no trouble and.

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Speaker 2: By all means put building wrap around the exterior frames

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Speaker 2: condensation on the inside of the windows. Rather than ignoring it,

428
00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:27,415
Speaker 2: you do the right thing and remove that moisture and

429
00:24:27,455 --> 00:24:29,935
Speaker 2: then by opening up the windows and allowing the house

430
00:24:29,975 --> 00:24:34,455
Speaker 2: to ventilate. Is just it's such a simple action that

431
00:24:34,495 --> 00:24:36,815
Speaker 2: we can all do every day, regardless of whether we

432
00:24:36,895 --> 00:24:40,975
Speaker 2: have moisture and condensation inside our houses or not. And

433
00:24:41,375 --> 00:24:45,095
Speaker 2: I know, funnily enough, listening to Kerry sometimes in the

434
00:24:45,135 --> 00:24:47,735
Speaker 2: mornings and her producer who happens to come from Germany,

435
00:24:47,895 --> 00:24:50,335
Speaker 2: there's like a specific German word for this, which is

436
00:24:50,615 --> 00:24:52,655
Speaker 2: when you get up, you open the doors right and

437
00:24:53,255 --> 00:24:56,695
Speaker 2: allow fresh air into the house. And so you're doing

438
00:24:56,735 --> 00:25:00,175
Speaker 2: exactly that, and that's helping your house stay healthy, which

439
00:25:00,175 --> 00:25:03,535
Speaker 2: is awesome in terms of the benefits of some sort

440
00:25:03,575 --> 00:25:08,415
Speaker 2: of ventilation system. Absolutely it will make a difference what

441
00:25:08,535 --> 00:25:11,695
Speaker 2: I increase. I think what we're seeing too. In the

442
00:25:11,775 --> 00:25:15,135
Speaker 2: space is a tremendous amount of innovation and development, right,

443
00:25:15,575 --> 00:25:19,415
Speaker 2: So some of the earlier sort of home ventilation systems

444
00:25:19,415 --> 00:25:23,575
Speaker 2: that were there tended to recirculate air from inside the

445
00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:28,975
Speaker 2: roof space, and there's a lot of talk about well,

446
00:25:29,015 --> 00:25:30,975
Speaker 2: it's nice and warm up there, so you can capture

447
00:25:31,015 --> 00:25:34,215
Speaker 2: that free hot air and blow that into your house

448
00:25:34,255 --> 00:25:36,455
Speaker 2: and it will help heat your house up, and those

449
00:25:36,455 --> 00:25:39,815
Speaker 2: sorts of things. I've never been too focused on that,

450
00:25:40,295 --> 00:25:45,055
Speaker 2: And speaking personally, I've got a system like that that

451
00:25:45,095 --> 00:25:48,295
Speaker 2: I've had for about twenty years in the house, and

452
00:25:48,575 --> 00:25:50,575
Speaker 2: when it reaches the end of its life, I will

453
00:25:50,615 --> 00:25:54,255
Speaker 2: look to recycle part of that. But I'd like to

454
00:25:54,295 --> 00:25:57,175
Speaker 2: go for a system that draws air from outside of

455
00:25:57,175 --> 00:26:02,055
Speaker 2: the house, filters it a little bit, and then pushes

456
00:26:02,095 --> 00:26:05,015
Speaker 2: it into the house, and then expels air to the

457
00:26:05,135 --> 00:26:09,135
Speaker 2: outside of the house. Because essentially the systems where you're

458
00:26:09,215 --> 00:26:13,375
Speaker 2: just where that's where you're drawing air, let's say, from

459
00:26:13,375 --> 00:26:16,495
Speaker 2: a contained space, and you're pushing it into the house,

460
00:26:16,615 --> 00:26:21,575
Speaker 2: and you're not actively extracting it and directing it somewhere.

461
00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:25,855
Speaker 2: You're reliant on your house leaking i e. Gaps and

462
00:26:25,855 --> 00:26:28,615
Speaker 2: cracks around windows and doors and so on for that

463
00:26:29,255 --> 00:26:33,695
Speaker 2: air to go out. So if once you start looking

464
00:26:34,295 --> 00:26:37,295
Speaker 2: at the detail of whatever ventilation system you're going to

465
00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:41,455
Speaker 2: put in, I think, what would be really key for

466
00:26:41,535 --> 00:26:43,575
Speaker 2: the systems that I'll be looking for in the future.

467
00:26:43,815 --> 00:26:46,575
Speaker 2: I'll be looking for one that draws from outside and

468
00:26:46,615 --> 00:26:49,975
Speaker 2: then expels to outside. I think that's really cool.

469
00:26:50,135 --> 00:26:54,575
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, these two systems. One of them, you know,

470
00:26:54,735 --> 00:26:58,175
Speaker 8: obviously takes it from the attic, which is HIV, and

471
00:26:59,095 --> 00:27:03,655
Speaker 8: DVS draws air in from outside and then circulates it

472
00:27:03,695 --> 00:27:05,895
Speaker 8: through the house. But none of them actually vent the

473
00:27:05,895 --> 00:27:09,455
Speaker 8: air like a like a bathroom fan or anything like that.

474
00:27:09,575 --> 00:27:12,735
Speaker 8: So they just bring air in and let it sit there.

475
00:27:12,975 --> 00:27:14,815
Speaker 8: I mean, I suppose you'll need to open windows and

476
00:27:14,855 --> 00:27:16,735
Speaker 8: things like that to let the air out.

477
00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:20,575
Speaker 2: To older houses tend to just older houses tend to

478
00:27:20,615 --> 00:27:22,975
Speaker 2: just leak air because they're not terribly air tight.

479
00:27:23,095 --> 00:27:26,895
Speaker 8: So you know, yeah, places like that, when you do

480
00:27:26,935 --> 00:27:30,055
Speaker 8: close the windows, I can some feel the air coming

481
00:27:30,135 --> 00:27:34,775
Speaker 8: through a single plane You've got, you know, the the

482
00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:37,215
Speaker 8: joinery and stuff like that, so you know, it's it's

483
00:27:37,295 --> 00:27:39,735
Speaker 8: that's maybe also a reason why I don't always always

484
00:27:39,775 --> 00:27:42,055
Speaker 8: get the mold and stuff around there is that I

485
00:27:42,055 --> 00:27:44,015
Speaker 8: can always feel a little bit of a draft coming

486
00:27:44,015 --> 00:27:47,335
Speaker 8: through and it's you know, it's not not entirely sealed,

487
00:27:47,455 --> 00:27:48,215
Speaker 8: but I mean.

488
00:27:48,495 --> 00:27:51,295
Speaker 2: That's where it is. And you know, these these kind

489
00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:54,095
Speaker 2: of there's quite a range of products are available now.

490
00:27:54,215 --> 00:28:00,215
Speaker 2: So you know, the more straightforward systems, you know, might

491
00:28:00,255 --> 00:28:04,775
Speaker 2: be in the three four thousand dollars range, it's probably

492
00:28:04,855 --> 00:28:07,375
Speaker 2: quite difficult to retro for some of the more high

493
00:28:07,415 --> 00:28:11,415
Speaker 2: performance units, right which have a heat exchanger as part

494
00:28:11,455 --> 00:28:16,935
Speaker 2: of them. They direct dry air from outside into what

495
00:28:16,975 --> 00:28:20,615
Speaker 2: we call dry spaces inside a house, and then they'll

496
00:28:20,815 --> 00:28:25,215
Speaker 2: pick up moist air from spaces like kitchens, bathrooms, and laundries.

497
00:28:26,015 --> 00:28:28,855
Speaker 2: So what they're doing is if you imagine a situation

498
00:28:28,895 --> 00:28:32,135
Speaker 2: where dry air is pumped into dry parts of the house,

499
00:28:32,455 --> 00:28:35,015
Speaker 2: and as the pressure builds up, it pushes that air

500
00:28:35,495 --> 00:28:39,895
Speaker 2: to wet spaces or moist spaces within the house, damp

501
00:28:39,935 --> 00:28:43,215
Speaker 2: spaces in the house, and then from there it's extracted.

502
00:28:43,615 --> 00:28:46,615
Speaker 2: And that air that's extracted because it's got moisture in it,

503
00:28:46,615 --> 00:28:48,335
Speaker 2: it's got a little bit of heat in it as well,

504
00:28:48,335 --> 00:28:50,695
Speaker 2: it's got a bit of energy in it. That energy

505
00:28:50,735 --> 00:28:53,895
Speaker 2: gets extracted by the heat exchanger and then the bulk

506
00:28:53,935 --> 00:28:57,495
Speaker 2: of it gets extracted to outside, so you're not causing drafts.

507
00:28:57,495 --> 00:29:00,695
Speaker 2: But those systems typically a little bit difficult to retro

508
00:29:00,775 --> 00:29:04,095
Speaker 2: fit without doing major work to the house. Fantastic to

509
00:29:04,135 --> 00:29:07,055
Speaker 2: do if you're doing a new bill, and and typically

510
00:29:07,255 --> 00:29:10,775
Speaker 2: tend to be in the you know, almost ten grand

511
00:29:10,775 --> 00:29:11,615
Speaker 2: sort of bracket.

512
00:29:11,775 --> 00:29:15,975
Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, the the HIVNDVS systems looks like it's

513
00:29:15,975 --> 00:29:18,295
Speaker 8: going to be in the four grand range. But like

514
00:29:18,335 --> 00:29:20,335
Speaker 8: I say, there are two different systems, and I'm trying

515
00:29:20,335 --> 00:29:23,935
Speaker 8: to determine which one, you know, in that range price range,

516
00:29:23,935 --> 00:29:26,055
Speaker 8: which one would be sort of look at it and

517
00:29:26,495 --> 00:29:29,295
Speaker 8: entering air from the attic or drawing air from the outside, you.

518
00:29:29,215 --> 00:29:35,615
Speaker 2: Know, I've I'm sure that people that provide the systems

519
00:29:35,615 --> 00:29:37,295
Speaker 2: will say, look, you can heat your house with it.

520
00:29:37,375 --> 00:29:43,775
Speaker 2: I actually think that that claim is I've never relied

521
00:29:43,775 --> 00:29:46,175
Speaker 2: on it, right, So, I think there is a benefit

522
00:29:46,255 --> 00:29:49,255
Speaker 2: of having air movement. I think there's a benefit, like

523
00:29:49,375 --> 00:29:51,855
Speaker 2: there is a benefit having air movement and so on.

524
00:29:52,175 --> 00:29:54,295
Speaker 2: But I think and I think both of those systems

525
00:29:54,335 --> 00:29:57,415
Speaker 2: that you've mentioned now do have systems that draw air

526
00:29:57,455 --> 00:30:01,335
Speaker 2: from outside, and I think there's a real advantage to that, right,

527
00:30:01,775 --> 00:30:03,295
Speaker 2: so that's what I would be looking at.

528
00:30:04,655 --> 00:30:04,695
Speaker 11: Me.

529
00:30:04,775 --> 00:30:06,855
Speaker 8: I'm not looking at it for heat heating, keep no

530
00:30:07,175 --> 00:30:09,495
Speaker 8: at all. It's just really just the condensation part of it.

531
00:30:09,535 --> 00:30:12,055
Speaker 8: So I'm hoping one of those systems would sort of

532
00:30:12,095 --> 00:30:14,375
Speaker 8: cater for that, and then I'm determining which one is

533
00:30:14,735 --> 00:30:18,175
Speaker 8: the better during air from outside or in the attics

534
00:30:18,175 --> 00:30:18,535
Speaker 8: sort of thing.

535
00:30:18,655 --> 00:30:21,255
Speaker 2: So my preference would be to look at a system

536
00:30:21,375 --> 00:30:25,895
Speaker 2: that draws air from outside and expels to outside as well.

537
00:30:26,335 --> 00:30:30,095
Speaker 8: Right, Okay, lovely to chat, great, excellent, thank you.

538
00:30:30,295 --> 00:30:31,975
Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you. All the very best. Go

539
00:30:32,015 --> 00:30:34,255
Speaker 2: by then, Paul your news talks, it'd be we're talking

540
00:30:34,335 --> 00:30:37,135
Speaker 2: all things building and construction. And it's not just the

541
00:30:38,415 --> 00:30:40,575
Speaker 2: construction part of it, it's then the sort of the

542
00:30:40,615 --> 00:30:44,655
Speaker 2: operating manual for the house as well. And again wanting

543
00:30:44,695 --> 00:30:47,055
Speaker 2: to not wanting to stretch the point, but you know,

544
00:30:47,175 --> 00:30:49,695
Speaker 2: if you've been to a house that there's you know,

545
00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:53,735
Speaker 2: mold on the windowsills, and that then or that amount

546
00:30:53,775 --> 00:30:56,415
Speaker 2: of moisture starts to cause decay, et cetera, et cetera.

547
00:30:57,015 --> 00:31:00,855
Speaker 2: Typically these things don't happen overnight. Right, In many cases,

548
00:31:00,895 --> 00:31:07,695
Speaker 2: they happen because for whatever reason, people don't then manage

549
00:31:08,255 --> 00:31:10,575
Speaker 2: the situation that they've got. So if you're in a

550
00:31:10,615 --> 00:31:15,375
Speaker 2: house that, for whatever reason generates condensation and that condensation

551
00:31:15,615 --> 00:31:19,615
Speaker 2: remains unattended to, then you're likely to get mold later on,

552
00:31:19,775 --> 00:31:23,575
Speaker 2: and you're likely to get decay in timber and sashes

553
00:31:23,655 --> 00:31:26,415
Speaker 2: and those sorts of things. So if you've got the problem,

554
00:31:26,495 --> 00:31:30,615
Speaker 2: you've got to actually solve the problem or you've got

555
00:31:30,615 --> 00:31:32,175
Speaker 2: to deal with it. But it has to be active.

556
00:31:32,295 --> 00:31:35,255
Speaker 2: And I think you know that someone will text through

557
00:31:35,295 --> 00:31:38,015
Speaker 2: the name in a moment. There's a specific German word

558
00:31:38,015 --> 00:31:40,175
Speaker 2: that they have, which is basically, get up in the morning,

559
00:31:40,255 --> 00:31:43,255
Speaker 2: open the doors and windows. You know, maybe not in

560
00:31:43,375 --> 00:31:46,295
Speaker 2: extreme weather, but by and large, just do that for

561
00:31:46,535 --> 00:31:49,055
Speaker 2: ten minutes, fifteen minutes, open the house up, and then

562
00:31:49,175 --> 00:31:50,575
Speaker 2: go off and do what you need to do for

563
00:31:50,655 --> 00:31:52,975
Speaker 2: the day. I think it's great advice. Six forty one.

564
00:31:53,055 --> 00:31:55,655
Speaker 2: Here at Newstalks there'd be a bunch of texts coming through.

565
00:31:55,695 --> 00:31:58,215
Speaker 2: But I'd love you calls as well. I wait, hundred

566
00:31:58,335 --> 00:32:01,055
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number measured.

567
00:32:00,815 --> 00:32:04,255
Speaker 1: WI God was, But maybe call Pete first, for you

568
00:32:04,335 --> 00:32:07,055
Speaker 1: all gave the resident builder talks'd be.

569
00:32:07,775 --> 00:32:09,815
Speaker 2: When his talks he'd be the lines are open, and

570
00:32:10,095 --> 00:32:12,295
Speaker 2: the number is eight hundred and eighty eight eleven. The

571
00:32:12,335 --> 00:32:13,935
Speaker 2: ticks as well, and we'll get onto those in just

572
00:32:13,935 --> 00:32:17,295
Speaker 2: a moment. Robert, good morning, Good morning, sir.

573
00:32:18,095 --> 00:32:25,495
Speaker 12: Very well, we've got a new old nineteen sixties house. Yep,

574
00:32:25,495 --> 00:32:27,815
Speaker 12: one hundred and thirty squares.

575
00:32:27,975 --> 00:32:28,575
Speaker 10: Best of block.

576
00:32:29,455 --> 00:32:31,695
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, the roof is still wearing the roofs still

577
00:32:31,735 --> 00:32:35,735
Speaker 12: wearing lead head nails.

578
00:32:33,735 --> 00:32:36,015
Speaker 2: Yep.

579
00:32:36,495 --> 00:32:40,375
Speaker 10: It's a it's an iron roof, and it's got.

580
00:32:41,735 --> 00:32:44,975
Speaker 12: Stains of moss and rubbers seem to be like they're

581
00:32:44,975 --> 00:32:45,575
Speaker 12: baked on.

582
00:32:46,015 --> 00:32:46,295
Speaker 2: Yep.

583
00:32:47,335 --> 00:32:49,735
Speaker 12: And the house is on sort of several levels, so

584
00:32:49,855 --> 00:32:50,175
Speaker 12: it's not.

585
00:32:50,175 --> 00:32:51,015
Speaker 10: Easy to access.

586
00:32:51,215 --> 00:32:52,015
Speaker 2: Sure the roof.

587
00:32:53,975 --> 00:32:57,855
Speaker 12: First question, how do we clean it short of getting

588
00:32:57,935 --> 00:33:01,455
Speaker 12: up there and scrubbing it? And the second question would

589
00:33:01,495 --> 00:33:03,015
Speaker 12: be how much do you think it had cost the

590
00:33:03,055 --> 00:33:04,095
Speaker 12: painted Ah?

591
00:33:04,175 --> 00:33:09,415
Speaker 2: Okay, in terms of clean Obviously, access is your biggest challenge, right,

592
00:33:09,495 --> 00:33:13,815
Speaker 2: So professionals who do this will have harnesses and rigging

593
00:33:13,895 --> 00:33:16,135
Speaker 2: systems and that sort of thing. So they'll get up there,

594
00:33:16,535 --> 00:33:19,375
Speaker 2: they'll they'll scoot around on it, but they'll at least

595
00:33:19,375 --> 00:33:24,535
Speaker 2: be harnessed. So whether that's something you feel confident doing

596
00:33:24,615 --> 00:33:26,935
Speaker 2: or whether you'd hand it over I had some guys do.

597
00:33:27,455 --> 00:33:30,295
Speaker 2: She got picked up during a final inspection a little

598
00:33:30,335 --> 00:33:33,255
Speaker 2: while ago on an older property where we were trying

599
00:33:33,295 --> 00:33:34,695
Speaker 2: to it was a durability issue.

600
00:33:34,695 --> 00:33:35,295
Speaker 10: Blah blah blah.

601
00:33:35,335 --> 00:33:39,975
Speaker 2: Long story, but the council made a request that I

602
00:33:40,055 --> 00:33:42,815
Speaker 2: have the roof treated, and so the contractors that I

603
00:33:42,975 --> 00:33:47,335
Speaker 2: used actually ended up using wet and forget right, okay,

604
00:33:47,935 --> 00:33:51,895
Speaker 2: and on the lichen it works right, So they get

605
00:33:51,975 --> 00:33:54,695
Speaker 2: up there they did it, and it was funny because

606
00:33:54,775 --> 00:33:57,935
Speaker 2: I was at the site when we started the project,

607
00:33:58,255 --> 00:34:00,775
Speaker 2: and because I'd noticed on the report that the council

608
00:34:00,855 --> 00:34:04,335
Speaker 2: had asked for the roof to be treated. I took

609
00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:07,335
Speaker 2: some photographs of the lichen that that had developed on

610
00:34:07,335 --> 00:34:09,495
Speaker 2: the long run roof. It was a painted roof as well,

611
00:34:10,615 --> 00:34:14,055
Speaker 2: and then about I don't know a month after the treatment,

612
00:34:14,415 --> 00:34:17,695
Speaker 2: I took some photographs of the same part. It hadn't disappeared,

613
00:34:17,735 --> 00:34:21,575
Speaker 2: but it was certainly dying right. So short answer, wit

614
00:34:21,615 --> 00:34:24,695
Speaker 2: and forget on the roof. It might need more than

615
00:34:24,735 --> 00:34:27,215
Speaker 2: one application. The challenges.

616
00:34:28,575 --> 00:34:30,575
Speaker 12: Really just stand back and.

617
00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:32,495
Speaker 2: Spray it pretty much. If you can do it with

618
00:34:32,535 --> 00:34:35,495
Speaker 2: a long lance or something like that and do it safely,

619
00:34:35,775 --> 00:34:39,215
Speaker 2: do that you might might take a little while. Then

620
00:34:39,495 --> 00:34:42,335
Speaker 2: you would do a roof wash. You'd do a primer

621
00:34:42,495 --> 00:34:47,655
Speaker 2: and a top coat. And again, paint's good for roofs, right,

622
00:34:48,095 --> 00:34:51,375
Speaker 2: so I would go paint over you know, some sort

623
00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:57,015
Speaker 2: of membrane or something like that. And then in terms

624
00:34:57,015 --> 00:35:02,135
Speaker 2: of painting it, I mean I've painted roofs myself, but

625
00:35:02,175 --> 00:35:03,975
Speaker 2: probably when I was a much younger man and I

626
00:35:04,015 --> 00:35:07,095
Speaker 2: didn't mind being up there. I'm not doing it, Okay,

627
00:35:08,175 --> 00:35:14,295
Speaker 2: keep guys scaffolding. No guys that do it all of

628
00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:17,375
Speaker 2: the time will have the right safety gear. So again,

629
00:35:17,775 --> 00:35:20,495
Speaker 2: just in terms of this, access to a roof doesn't

630
00:35:20,615 --> 00:35:24,695
Speaker 2: immediately require each protection. What you need to do is

631
00:35:24,735 --> 00:35:27,055
Speaker 2: be able to say I've got a system in place

632
00:35:27,175 --> 00:35:30,895
Speaker 2: that looks after the people doing the work right. And

633
00:35:31,015 --> 00:35:34,495
Speaker 2: if through your health and safety procedure, you've determined that

634
00:35:34,535 --> 00:35:37,135
Speaker 2: I can operate on this roof safely by using a

635
00:35:37,175 --> 00:35:39,735
Speaker 2: harness and a and a long line, and I've got

636
00:35:39,775 --> 00:35:41,735
Speaker 2: an anchor point and all of those sorts of things,

637
00:35:41,975 --> 00:35:45,215
Speaker 2: then that's that's fine, right. That's how contractors will operate.

638
00:35:45,415 --> 00:35:48,255
Speaker 12: Someone tells me six grand for scaffolding, it's going to

639
00:35:48,255 --> 00:35:48,735
Speaker 12: be a bubber.

640
00:35:49,015 --> 00:35:53,175
Speaker 2: Don't only if your contractor says, I need scaffolding in

641
00:35:53,255 --> 00:35:56,855
Speaker 2: order to do the job safely. But there there's plenty

642
00:35:56,895 --> 00:36:00,695
Speaker 2: of contractors who will do re re cooting, thank you,

643
00:36:01,535 --> 00:36:05,135
Speaker 2: without needing scaffolding, because if you're up there for a

644
00:36:05,175 --> 00:36:08,055
Speaker 2: short period of time, that's fine. I mean, again, on

645
00:36:08,095 --> 00:36:10,095
Speaker 2: the project that I was managing a little while ago,

646
00:36:10,535 --> 00:36:14,015
Speaker 2: we had to do some minor building works on the

647
00:36:14,055 --> 00:36:16,735
Speaker 2: second floor, so the guys, the carpenters, were on the

648
00:36:16,815 --> 00:36:20,095
Speaker 2: roof and then you know that it was a little

649
00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:22,015
Speaker 2: bit time consuming. They're going to be up there for

650
00:36:22,095 --> 00:36:25,655
Speaker 2: quite a while. It wasn't practical to have them harnessed

651
00:36:25,695 --> 00:36:28,255
Speaker 2: in order for them to be safe, to ensure that

652
00:36:28,295 --> 00:36:30,375
Speaker 2: if they did slip, they wouldn't fall off the roof.

653
00:36:30,735 --> 00:36:33,495
Speaker 2: So in that instance, I got edge protection around the

654
00:36:33,575 --> 00:36:36,375
Speaker 2: roof and that was the safest, simplest thing to do.

655
00:36:37,775 --> 00:36:42,775
Speaker 2: But you don't have to do it, thank you, all right,

656
00:36:43,895 --> 00:36:48,455
Speaker 2: more the best three to five grand something like that,

657
00:36:49,735 --> 00:36:55,455
Speaker 2: including the paint, maybe four to six grand generally. I mean,

658
00:36:55,455 --> 00:36:57,495
Speaker 2: the guys that I've had to do it, it's not

659
00:36:57,695 --> 00:36:59,175
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to make sure they do the

660
00:36:59,215 --> 00:37:02,175
Speaker 2: preparation right, Okay, So if someone just rocks up and

661
00:37:02,215 --> 00:37:04,735
Speaker 2: paints the roof. Then you know it's not going to last.

662
00:37:04,935 --> 00:37:07,095
Speaker 2: If they turn up, they do a bit of water blasting,

663
00:37:07,335 --> 00:37:10,535
Speaker 2: they spot prime any areas that need it, and then

664
00:37:10,575 --> 00:37:13,975
Speaker 2: they do a really good coat of nice you know,

665
00:37:14,095 --> 00:37:19,335
Speaker 2: summit roof or something like that. Then yeah, it's it's

666
00:37:19,375 --> 00:37:21,015
Speaker 2: always about preparation, right.

667
00:37:22,055 --> 00:37:26,215
Speaker 12: So if you're employing someone who was up there with

668
00:37:26,215 --> 00:37:28,535
Speaker 12: a water blast, you probably wouldn't need wouldn't forget.

669
00:37:28,735 --> 00:37:31,495
Speaker 2: No, because I would still want to treat the mold

670
00:37:31,535 --> 00:37:34,855
Speaker 2: because it's killing the actual mold and also like it's

671
00:37:34,895 --> 00:37:37,055
Speaker 2: really hard to remove with a water blaster, Like you've

672
00:37:37,055 --> 00:37:38,495
Speaker 2: got to be up there for a long time. So

673
00:37:38,935 --> 00:37:41,415
Speaker 2: you know, think about staging this project over a couple

674
00:37:41,455 --> 00:37:43,855
Speaker 2: of months. First thing is do the roof treatment, get

675
00:37:43,935 --> 00:37:47,935
Speaker 2: rid of the moss and mold, let the chemicals with

676
00:37:48,255 --> 00:37:51,615
Speaker 2: the product do its work, allow that to dissolve. Clean

677
00:37:51,655 --> 00:37:54,095
Speaker 2: the roof thoroughly with a water blast or a treatment,

678
00:37:54,535 --> 00:37:57,335
Speaker 2: and then app you know, whatever preparation you need to

679
00:37:57,375 --> 00:38:00,375
Speaker 2: do in a top coat. All right, mate, get some

680
00:38:00,775 --> 00:38:04,455
Speaker 2: that's the best way, all right, all the best, thank you,

681
00:38:04,495 --> 00:38:08,455
Speaker 2: But it is ten that's away from seven doing.

682
00:38:08,215 --> 00:38:10,615
Speaker 1: Other house storting the guard and ask Pete for a

683
00:38:10,695 --> 00:38:13,735
Speaker 1: hand the resident builder with Peter wolfcap call.

684
00:38:13,855 --> 00:38:23,135
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred us dogs some fantastic. That's an interesting

685
00:38:23,175 --> 00:38:28,215
Speaker 2: one about avoiding the warranty on the color steel. I

686
00:38:28,255 --> 00:38:30,815
Speaker 2: will look into that. Thank you very much for that

687
00:38:30,855 --> 00:38:36,055
Speaker 2: text though. That's that's very interesting. One hundred square meter

688
00:38:36,175 --> 00:38:39,815
Speaker 2: of roof deco tiles. Three quotes to clean and spray

689
00:38:39,815 --> 00:38:42,895
Speaker 2: paint all about six grand. I'm going to go DIY

690
00:38:43,095 --> 00:38:46,095
Speaker 2: paints about eight hundred bucks. Mate has the spray gear

691
00:38:46,815 --> 00:38:49,695
Speaker 2: all right, as long as you're safe up there, and

692
00:38:49,815 --> 00:38:52,375
Speaker 2: maybe you've had a crack at it before, Hey, look,

693
00:38:53,375 --> 00:38:56,935
Speaker 2: give it a go. M getting a bunch of texts

694
00:38:57,015 --> 00:38:59,855
Speaker 2: with regard to our painting questions, which is awesome because

695
00:38:59,935 --> 00:39:02,455
Speaker 2: Jay from Razine will be along with us at around

696
00:39:02,535 --> 00:39:06,055
Speaker 2: seven twenty five. Also another text, can you please pass

697
00:39:06,095 --> 00:39:08,415
Speaker 2: on to the last caller or the one just before

698
00:39:08,455 --> 00:39:10,895
Speaker 2: so to Paul that I've got an HRV and my

699
00:39:10,895 --> 00:39:13,815
Speaker 2: one hundred year old character home never had condensation once.

700
00:39:13,935 --> 00:39:17,095
Speaker 2: It's brilliant. I live in Hamilton too, so it does.

701
00:39:18,135 --> 00:39:20,775
Speaker 2: It does get a little bit cold and frosty. That's awesome,

702
00:39:22,695 --> 00:39:27,255
Speaker 2: thank you very much, and I quite genuinely I don't

703
00:39:27,255 --> 00:39:29,535
Speaker 2: mind the people that text and to correct me on

704
00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:33,695
Speaker 2: my pronunciation or my grammar. Hey, Pete, remember one roof

705
00:39:33,855 --> 00:39:40,175
Speaker 2: two roofs. Roofs never roofs, so it's roofs not roofs.

706
00:39:40,495 --> 00:39:43,695
Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you very much. I appreciate that, right.

707
00:39:43,775 --> 00:39:45,455
Speaker 2: Quick question for you, Johnny, how are you?

708
00:39:46,415 --> 00:39:46,615
Speaker 3: Yeah?

709
00:39:46,815 --> 00:39:47,095
Speaker 13: Good?

710
00:39:47,175 --> 00:39:47,735
Speaker 10: I'm like you.

711
00:39:48,415 --> 00:39:52,135
Speaker 13: I enjoy the older houses. Yeah, to say, seventy six

712
00:39:52,335 --> 00:39:56,975
Speaker 13: six years old? So what's the story on the Is

713
00:39:57,015 --> 00:40:01,615
Speaker 13: any olderations been on the how they used to run

714
00:40:01,655 --> 00:40:06,255
Speaker 13: their drains through through other other state houses and join up.

715
00:40:06,335 --> 00:40:08,455
Speaker 13: There's been in your operation to that. I think it

716
00:40:08,575 --> 00:40:12,055
Speaker 13: was four C on that Housing Corporation Act.

717
00:40:13,775 --> 00:40:17,495
Speaker 2: I mean, you're always going to have situations where drainage

718
00:40:17,535 --> 00:40:21,415
Speaker 2: will intersect through another property in some cases because not

719
00:40:22,335 --> 00:40:27,535
Speaker 2: every single property has a public line either running through

720
00:40:27,575 --> 00:40:32,415
Speaker 2: it or adjacent to it. So it's I guess it's

721
00:40:32,575 --> 00:40:36,535
Speaker 2: less an issue in newer subdivisions, where you know, these

722
00:40:36,575 --> 00:40:39,655
Speaker 2: things are planned and everyone is able to sort of

723
00:40:39,695 --> 00:40:41,935
Speaker 2: go to the edge of their property and connect into

724
00:40:41,935 --> 00:40:46,175
Speaker 2: a public line. But in older areas, it's not uncommon

725
00:40:46,215 --> 00:40:50,375
Speaker 2: to have your private drainage running through in some cases.

726
00:40:50,455 --> 00:40:54,455
Speaker 2: Now that's been I'm aware of a situation or a

727
00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:57,215
Speaker 2: couple of situations, for example in Auckland where where it

728
00:40:57,335 --> 00:41:01,135
Speaker 2: was private drainage, it's then been inspected by council and

729
00:41:01,295 --> 00:41:03,775
Speaker 2: vested to council where it intersects and go through a

730
00:41:03,815 --> 00:41:09,415
Speaker 2: neighboring property. If that's what might be happening for you, Yeah,

731
00:41:10,415 --> 00:41:13,055
Speaker 2: so in that sense, Look, I think with a lot

732
00:41:13,055 --> 00:41:16,335
Speaker 2: of these things there there will be some cases easements

733
00:41:16,335 --> 00:41:19,815
Speaker 2: on the title or there are rights and responsibilities. But

734
00:41:19,895 --> 00:41:22,415
Speaker 2: it's interesting to see more and more councils actually sort

735
00:41:22,415 --> 00:41:25,455
Speaker 2: of taking responsibility for that once they've done the survey

736
00:41:26,375 --> 00:41:30,575
Speaker 2: and going okay, well it's not your drainage, it's your neighbors,

737
00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:33,495
Speaker 2: but we'll look after it. So that's interesting. Back after

738
00:41:33,535 --> 00:41:34,615
Speaker 2: the news at seven.

739
00:41:34,415 --> 00:41:37,575
Speaker 1: O'clock, whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or

740
00:41:37,615 --> 00:41:39,815
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the wall, give

741
00:41:39,895 --> 00:41:44,455
Speaker 1: Peter wolf Gabber call on eighty the resident builder on

742
00:41:44,535 --> 00:41:46,175
Speaker 1: news dogs'b right.

743
00:41:46,055 --> 00:41:48,015
Speaker 2: Yoh, we've got a couple of calls to get through

744
00:41:48,015 --> 00:41:51,215
Speaker 2: before we are going to be talking to Bryce. Not Bryce,

745
00:41:51,255 --> 00:41:54,815
Speaker 2: it's Jay today. Jay Sharple's from Razine is our painting

746
00:41:54,935 --> 00:41:57,295
Speaker 2: expert we're going to be talking with him at about

747
00:41:57,295 --> 00:42:00,255
Speaker 2: seven twenty five. Might have time for a couple of

748
00:42:00,295 --> 00:42:04,415
Speaker 2: extra text questions on painting, but in general I think

749
00:42:04,415 --> 00:42:06,895
Speaker 2: we're pretty full board there. Then at a round a

750
00:42:06,975 --> 00:42:10,335
Speaker 2: quarter to eight, I want to catch up with Mark Roberts,

751
00:42:10,375 --> 00:42:13,535
Speaker 2: who is kind of head of waste management, let's say,

752
00:42:13,775 --> 00:42:18,135
Speaker 2: or for Auckland Council. And last week we spoke with

753
00:42:18,215 --> 00:42:22,295
Speaker 2: doctor Terry and Barry who's heavily involved in sort of

754
00:42:22,455 --> 00:42:27,375
Speaker 2: investigations into and seeking solutions for construction and demolition waste.

755
00:42:28,175 --> 00:42:34,375
Speaker 2: And I say we we, as builders, contractors, people involved

756
00:42:34,375 --> 00:42:39,455
Speaker 2: in construction, we contribute a fast amount to waste right

757
00:42:40,815 --> 00:42:43,495
Speaker 2: and to the amount of material that goes to landfill.

758
00:42:43,535 --> 00:42:46,455
Speaker 2: In fact, it's thought that is possibly as much as

759
00:42:46,495 --> 00:42:49,415
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the volume of material going to landfill

760
00:42:49,815 --> 00:42:53,215
Speaker 2: comes from demolition and construction. And you know, we're a

761
00:42:53,295 --> 00:42:55,895
Speaker 2: part of the economy, but we're not seventy percent of it,

762
00:42:55,935 --> 00:42:59,135
Speaker 2: and yet we contribute seventy percent to landfill. So I

763
00:42:59,175 --> 00:43:03,655
Speaker 2: think there's some challenges there, and obviously individual contractors have

764
00:43:03,695 --> 00:43:05,415
Speaker 2: a role to play. Government has a role to play,

765
00:43:05,495 --> 00:43:08,055
Speaker 2: Local government has role to play. So we'll be talking

766
00:43:08,095 --> 00:43:11,495
Speaker 2: to Mark Roberts from Auckland councilor around seven forty five

767
00:43:11,575 --> 00:43:14,055
Speaker 2: this morning, after the news at eight o'clock, so in

768
00:43:14,095 --> 00:43:16,855
Speaker 2: about an hour's time, we will bring RUD on to

769
00:43:17,415 --> 00:43:20,335
Speaker 2: talk all things gardening. I certainly want to ask them

770
00:43:20,375 --> 00:43:24,215
Speaker 2: a couple of questions about these yellow legged hornets that

771
00:43:25,495 --> 00:43:28,655
Speaker 2: have arrived in the country. What can we do about it.

772
00:43:28,695 --> 00:43:32,815
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of sort of DIY traps that

773
00:43:32,855 --> 00:43:35,735
Speaker 2: people are advocating we should be doing in order to

774
00:43:35,775 --> 00:43:39,055
Speaker 2: try and trap them before they get established. And there's

775
00:43:39,175 --> 00:43:42,855
Speaker 2: growing concern that this population might get established. So hoping

776
00:43:42,935 --> 00:43:45,095
Speaker 2: RUD can bring a little bit of science to that

777
00:43:45,215 --> 00:43:48,015
Speaker 2: question as well. And then at around eight thirty we'll

778
00:43:48,055 --> 00:43:51,255
Speaker 2: hand over to our sports commentary team ahead of the

779
00:43:51,295 --> 00:43:55,495
Speaker 2: All Blacks v. Island match that will be held in Chicago.

780
00:43:56,535 --> 00:43:58,695
Speaker 2: Just quickly too. Another thing that I was involved in

781
00:43:58,695 --> 00:44:01,975
Speaker 2: the last week or so, so the guys that run

782
00:44:02,135 --> 00:44:06,495
Speaker 2: the local Hamma Hardware in my town down Demport. One

783
00:44:06,535 --> 00:44:08,615
Speaker 2: of them reached out and said, look, we've got a

784
00:44:08,655 --> 00:44:12,095
Speaker 2: bunch of paint that's left over. It's new, it's never

785
00:44:12,135 --> 00:44:16,175
Speaker 2: been opened, but we need to move it on. We

786
00:44:16,215 --> 00:44:18,735
Speaker 2: don't need it in the store. Anymore. Do you know

787
00:44:18,775 --> 00:44:21,375
Speaker 2: someone who could use it? Well, yes, I do so

788
00:44:22,135 --> 00:44:25,375
Speaker 2: the guys from Devenport Hamma Hardware. I went and picked

789
00:44:25,375 --> 00:44:27,815
Speaker 2: it up, put a load in the back of the ute,

790
00:44:28,095 --> 00:44:31,375
Speaker 2: went on down to Habitat for Humanity to their restore

791
00:44:31,415 --> 00:44:35,695
Speaker 2: store in Ormiston Road in Eastommachy and Auckland dropped it

792
00:44:35,735 --> 00:44:38,055
Speaker 2: off there. They can either use it in the store,

793
00:44:38,175 --> 00:44:40,415
Speaker 2: they can use it on their Healthy Homes programs and

794
00:44:40,735 --> 00:44:46,175
Speaker 2: their renovation programs that they run. But my thanks to

795
00:44:47,055 --> 00:44:51,095
Speaker 2: Trevor and the team at Devenport Hammer Hardware for thinking

796
00:44:51,135 --> 00:44:54,135
Speaker 2: about a better use than maybe just kind of binning

797
00:44:54,175 --> 00:44:56,975
Speaker 2: it or something like that. So credit to you guys.

798
00:44:57,015 --> 00:44:59,375
Speaker 2: Really appreciate that and happy to help out in those

799
00:44:59,375 --> 00:45:02,855
Speaker 2: instances as well. So again my thanks to Trevor and

800
00:45:02,895 --> 00:45:08,735
Speaker 2: the team at Devenport Hammer Hardware. Nine minutes after seven Ellison,

801
00:45:08,895 --> 00:45:14,695
Speaker 2: good morning, Hello, Pey, tell me I'm very well Ellison, Well.

802
00:45:15,575 --> 00:45:22,575
Speaker 4: Yeap, yep, fighting f Hey, we are looking at rejuvenating

803
00:45:22,695 --> 00:45:30,255
Speaker 4: our joinery. Yes, and we've started talking to Nano Clear. Yes,

804
00:45:31,135 --> 00:45:36,375
Speaker 4: And I just wondered if you had any advice or

805
00:45:36,495 --> 00:45:40,775
Speaker 4: experience on the y A couple of other companies that

806
00:45:40,815 --> 00:45:42,855
Speaker 4: are out there we've had a few quotes and they

807
00:45:42,895 --> 00:45:44,295
Speaker 4: do very quite a bit.

808
00:45:45,055 --> 00:45:45,295
Speaker 2: Yep.

809
00:45:46,855 --> 00:45:49,575
Speaker 4: So just before we take the plunge, I thought I

810
00:45:49,615 --> 00:45:52,295
Speaker 4: would chicken with you and see if you can give

811
00:45:52,295 --> 00:45:52,935
Speaker 4: any advice.

812
00:45:53,095 --> 00:45:57,935
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, okay, as it happens. I know Dan who

813
00:45:58,495 --> 00:46:02,175
Speaker 2: with his wife run Nano Clear. I've actually been to

814
00:46:02,255 --> 00:46:05,295
Speaker 2: a job that they've they were halfway through, so I've

815
00:46:05,335 --> 00:46:07,975
Speaker 2: seen the preparation work that they do. I've seen the

816
00:46:08,095 --> 00:46:10,975
Speaker 2: end result. I've known them for a couple of years.

817
00:46:11,615 --> 00:46:15,015
Speaker 2: I don't have any formal engagement with them, but I'd

818
00:46:15,455 --> 00:46:18,135
Speaker 2: be quite happy to say to you, I think if

819
00:46:18,135 --> 00:46:19,815
Speaker 2: you're looking for a really good job, you just.

820
00:46:19,815 --> 00:46:21,655
Speaker 9: Stick with them.

821
00:46:21,695 --> 00:46:23,135
Speaker 4: Awesome, thanks so much.

822
00:46:24,055 --> 00:46:26,695
Speaker 2: And that's based on my own experience of having seen it,

823
00:46:27,695 --> 00:46:29,735
Speaker 2: knowing a bit about them and the company and how

824
00:46:29,775 --> 00:46:32,535
Speaker 2: they approach it and that sort of thing. So again,

825
00:46:32,855 --> 00:46:34,735
Speaker 2: I mean, by all means look for other quotes, but

826
00:46:35,095 --> 00:46:37,575
Speaker 2: I'd have no trouble saying nan Clear will job.

827
00:46:37,655 --> 00:46:44,215
Speaker 4: Well we have and one of them is just astronomically more. Yeah,

828
00:46:44,415 --> 00:46:47,415
Speaker 4: makes you wonder, But no, I've heard good things and

829
00:46:47,455 --> 00:46:50,095
Speaker 4: I've heard you mentioned before, and I just sort of

830
00:46:50,135 --> 00:46:53,015
Speaker 4: give you a quick call and that's marvelous. You've put

831
00:46:53,095 --> 00:46:54,095
Speaker 4: our minds at rest.

832
00:46:54,415 --> 00:46:58,655
Speaker 2: I hope it goes well. Lovely, thank you and you too,

833
00:46:58,815 --> 00:47:04,095
Speaker 2: take care of them. Bobby Andy, greetings, thank you, Good morning, Peter,

834
00:47:04,135 --> 00:47:04,735
Speaker 2: Good morning, sir.

835
00:47:04,815 --> 00:47:07,895
Speaker 7: And I just wanted to say I'm a resident of

836
00:47:07,975 --> 00:47:15,095
Speaker 7: Bayswater Barrissage Street. And on Monday, that's tomorrow, the digner

837
00:47:16,335 --> 00:47:19,535
Speaker 7: is across the road and they go to demolish the.

838
00:47:21,135 --> 00:47:21,415
Speaker 10: House.

839
00:47:21,655 --> 00:47:28,055
Speaker 7: Yes, what are the council regulations regarding demolition of a house?

840
00:47:28,695 --> 00:47:28,895
Speaker 10: Now?

841
00:47:28,975 --> 00:47:33,855
Speaker 7: The house is full of asbestos and we've had no

842
00:47:34,015 --> 00:47:39,815
Speaker 7: communication from the actual contractors. The diggers arrived on the Friday,

843
00:47:40,335 --> 00:47:43,815
Speaker 7: and we want to know what is happening. Is there

844
00:47:43,815 --> 00:47:48,975
Speaker 7: a traffic management plan? And you'd be interested to have.

845
00:47:48,895 --> 00:47:49,815
Speaker 10: A look at this house.

846
00:47:50,215 --> 00:47:54,495
Speaker 7: It's going to be five units, I understand it's going to.

847
00:47:54,415 --> 00:47:59,175
Speaker 2: Be put up, pretty typical for redevelopment areas generally with

848
00:47:59,375 --> 00:48:03,295
Speaker 2: and actually not far from where you're talking about, and

849
00:48:03,295 --> 00:48:05,855
Speaker 2: we're not going to make the show charribly local, but

850
00:48:06,415 --> 00:48:09,375
Speaker 2: on Lake Road, close to Esmond Road, there was a

851
00:48:09,775 --> 00:48:14,375
Speaker 2: sort of nineteen thirties house that was removed recently ahead

852
00:48:14,375 --> 00:48:16,935
Speaker 2: of obviously a development going on on that site. And

853
00:48:17,015 --> 00:48:20,655
Speaker 2: what I noticed is that initially they took down a

854
00:48:20,695 --> 00:48:22,775
Speaker 2: wall to get access to the site, they put up

855
00:48:22,775 --> 00:48:25,935
Speaker 2: the site fencing to secure the site, and then they

856
00:48:25,935 --> 00:48:29,695
Speaker 2: had a team that obviously had a survey done which

857
00:48:29,775 --> 00:48:33,135
Speaker 2: determined that there was some asbestos or some ACM in there.

858
00:48:33,255 --> 00:48:36,255
Speaker 2: Then they had a specialist team come in and remove

859
00:48:36,535 --> 00:48:40,655
Speaker 2: all of that material prior to general demolition coming along.

860
00:48:41,215 --> 00:48:45,015
Speaker 2: So if you've got some genuine concerns around whether or

861
00:48:45,095 --> 00:48:47,855
Speaker 2: not there is asbestos in the building, I guess the

862
00:48:47,935 --> 00:48:50,895
Speaker 2: thing to do would be to approach the site. If

863
00:48:50,935 --> 00:48:53,735
Speaker 2: they've already set up their site fencing, for example, they

864
00:48:53,775 --> 00:48:56,615
Speaker 2: should have a hazard board on the outside, which will

865
00:48:56,655 --> 00:49:00,175
Speaker 2: also have the name of the personal responsible for health

866
00:49:00,215 --> 00:49:03,735
Speaker 2: and safety on the site. I would phone them and say,

867
00:49:05,575 --> 00:49:07,535
Speaker 2: no hesit, Okay.

868
00:49:07,415 --> 00:49:09,895
Speaker 7: Defense is up, but there's no and the bigger is

869
00:49:09,975 --> 00:49:14,415
Speaker 7: on site. Yeah, but there's no notice. And I think

870
00:49:14,535 --> 00:49:17,015
Speaker 7: they should advise all the neighbors as well.

871
00:49:19,135 --> 00:49:21,495
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not necessarily going to say that they need

872
00:49:21,535 --> 00:49:24,375
Speaker 2: to advise all of the neighbors, but what they definitely

873
00:49:24,455 --> 00:49:27,015
Speaker 2: do need to have is they obviously need to have

874
00:49:27,015 --> 00:49:30,215
Speaker 2: a health and safety plan in place. They also, I

875
00:49:30,255 --> 00:49:33,815
Speaker 2: think anyone would say that an older house, there is

876
00:49:33,855 --> 00:49:36,935
Speaker 2: a high likelihood that there will be asbestos in the house, right,

877
00:49:37,295 --> 00:49:39,415
Speaker 2: so at the very least they should have had a

878
00:49:39,455 --> 00:49:43,735
Speaker 2: survey done. And if you have a concern, then you will,

879
00:49:45,975 --> 00:49:48,695
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's fair to go, hey, look,

880
00:49:48,895 --> 00:49:50,695
Speaker 2: I can see that you're going to do the work.

881
00:49:50,895 --> 00:49:54,815
Speaker 2: Can you provide me, as someone who's likely to be

882
00:49:54,855 --> 00:49:57,695
Speaker 2: affected by this, with evidence that you've had an asbestos

883
00:49:57,735 --> 00:50:00,935
Speaker 2: survey done. Now, I think at that time if they

884
00:50:00,975 --> 00:50:04,375
Speaker 2: say we haven't done it, or we don't think there

885
00:50:04,495 --> 00:50:08,615
Speaker 2: is or whatever, when I would probably be inclined to

886
00:50:08,695 --> 00:50:13,255
Speaker 2: phone council and ask one of their maybe their pollution

887
00:50:13,375 --> 00:50:17,295
Speaker 2: hotline team. So don't go through general counsel, go straight

888
00:50:17,335 --> 00:50:21,175
Speaker 2: to what they call their pollution hotline and just inform

889
00:50:21,295 --> 00:50:24,695
Speaker 2: them of your concerns. But let's say when you if

890
00:50:24,735 --> 00:50:28,015
Speaker 2: you did approach them, they said, yes, we've had an

891
00:50:28,015 --> 00:50:33,055
Speaker 2: asbestos survey done. Here is the survey results. We've had

892
00:50:33,175 --> 00:50:40,135
Speaker 2: an independent asbestos specialists come survey the site. They've determined

893
00:50:40,135 --> 00:50:42,535
Speaker 2: that there's no asbestos here. Well, then you know, but

894
00:50:42,615 --> 00:50:46,535
Speaker 2: it's got to be independent, right, And if they're hedging

895
00:50:46,615 --> 00:50:50,055
Speaker 2: that or they say no, we haven't had a survey done.

896
00:50:49,495 --> 00:50:52,255
Speaker 2: I like if I was in charge of that job,

897
00:50:52,935 --> 00:50:55,615
Speaker 2: given the age of the house, I think I would

898
00:50:55,655 --> 00:50:59,415
Speaker 2: get a survey done, right. I think it's realistic to

899
00:50:59,455 --> 00:51:03,135
Speaker 2: do that. So if they've done the survey and they've

900
00:51:03,135 --> 00:51:06,255
Speaker 2: got controls in place, then that's cool. If they've done

901
00:51:06,415 --> 00:51:09,055
Speaker 2: the survey which found that there was ACM, but they're

902
00:51:09,095 --> 00:51:10,815
Speaker 2: still just going to tackle it all with a digger,

903
00:51:10,935 --> 00:51:14,215
Speaker 2: that's not the right approach, right, So I would expect

904
00:51:14,255 --> 00:51:18,455
Speaker 2: to see a specialist team arrive. They'll remove the asbestos,

905
00:51:18,575 --> 00:51:21,215
Speaker 2: they'll have the area checked by This is part of

906
00:51:21,215 --> 00:51:24,335
Speaker 2: the rules now. It gets checked by an independent third

907
00:51:24,375 --> 00:51:27,895
Speaker 2: party to determine that there's been no contamination of the site.

908
00:51:28,135 --> 00:51:32,095
Speaker 2: Once they issue a statement saying it's safe and not contaminated,

909
00:51:32,335 --> 00:51:36,015
Speaker 2: then general demolition can can go ahead ahead.

910
00:51:36,175 --> 00:51:40,575
Speaker 7: Okay, well, thank you for that's quite right. Curious to

911
00:51:40,575 --> 00:51:42,295
Speaker 7: see what happens tomorrow morning.

912
00:51:42,335 --> 00:51:45,135
Speaker 2: Andy, I might just get you to chat with Isaiam,

913
00:51:45,175 --> 00:51:47,455
Speaker 2: my producer, and if you've give them the number of

914
00:51:47,975 --> 00:51:50,655
Speaker 2: the property on Beresford, I might have a little drive

915
00:51:50,695 --> 00:51:54,215
Speaker 2: by them away home today. Yes, you're still on the line,

916
00:51:54,255 --> 00:51:56,215
Speaker 2: Please just just hold on the line there. We'll get

917
00:51:56,215 --> 00:51:58,975
Speaker 2: their details on that. Wait, one hundred and eighty ten

918
00:51:59,135 --> 00:52:02,135
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call. We've got a bunch

919
00:52:02,135 --> 00:52:05,695
Speaker 2: of painting questions which is awesome, a couple of texts

920
00:52:05,695 --> 00:52:09,095
Speaker 2: with regard to actually one on development which is interesting,

921
00:52:09,815 --> 00:52:12,255
Speaker 2: and in fact even Andy's call there.

922
00:52:12,295 --> 00:52:12,415
Speaker 10: You know.

923
00:52:12,455 --> 00:52:15,095
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a house that's going to be removed, right,

924
00:52:15,095 --> 00:52:17,895
Speaker 2: and this happens across the country all of the time.

925
00:52:20,175 --> 00:52:22,255
Speaker 2: I would like to think that there was some sort

926
00:52:22,255 --> 00:52:24,375
Speaker 2: of care and consideration as to what's going to happen

927
00:52:24,415 --> 00:52:26,735
Speaker 2: with the waste materials or with the materials that are

928
00:52:26,775 --> 00:52:30,255
Speaker 2: about to become waste. But I would be naive to

929
00:52:30,335 --> 00:52:35,455
Speaker 2: think that anything other than a machine just literally crunching

930
00:52:35,495 --> 00:52:38,935
Speaker 2: it down, maybe peeling off the roof and putting the

931
00:52:38,935 --> 00:52:42,335
Speaker 2: iron aside, but generally all of the timber, all of

932
00:52:42,335 --> 00:52:45,415
Speaker 2: the materials will just get smashed down with an arm

933
00:52:45,495 --> 00:52:48,895
Speaker 2: on the digger, driven over a few times to crush

934
00:52:48,935 --> 00:52:50,615
Speaker 2: it up so that it fits into the back of

935
00:52:50,615 --> 00:52:52,695
Speaker 2: a truck easy, and it'll just get trucked off to

936
00:52:53,135 --> 00:52:57,455
Speaker 2: landfill or possibly to a site where God forbid, they'll

937
00:52:57,495 --> 00:53:03,095
Speaker 2: just light a fire and burn it right. Whereas case

938
00:53:03,135 --> 00:53:07,695
Speaker 2: in point, it's just a rocking waste of materials. I

939
00:53:07,735 --> 00:53:11,335
Speaker 2: know that there's a cost involved and maybe not. And

940
00:53:11,575 --> 00:53:13,775
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that every single piece of that house

941
00:53:13,815 --> 00:53:16,735
Speaker 2: could be reused, recycled, repurposed and all the rest of it.

942
00:53:17,095 --> 00:53:19,495
Speaker 2: But even if the timber was stripped out and sent

943
00:53:19,535 --> 00:53:24,535
Speaker 2: for timber recycling, in the very least it would divert

944
00:53:24,575 --> 00:53:27,295
Speaker 2: it from landfill, right and it could get chipped or

945
00:53:27,575 --> 00:53:34,935
Speaker 2: and turned into mulchu or whatever. But yeah, the thing

946
00:53:35,055 --> 00:53:37,815
Speaker 2: is someone they will they'll just drive a digger through it,

947
00:53:38,375 --> 00:53:41,655
Speaker 2: which is a bloody waste. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

948
00:53:41,735 --> 00:53:44,215
Speaker 2: eighty quick text. When is it time to say enough

949
00:53:44,295 --> 00:53:48,175
Speaker 2: is enough to developing suburbs? They mentioned Stonefields in Auckland.

950
00:53:48,415 --> 00:53:50,815
Speaker 2: Now we hear that the last two remaining open spaces

951
00:53:50,855 --> 00:53:53,775
Speaker 2: are also going to get developed. What the concept of

952
00:53:53,775 --> 00:53:56,375
Speaker 2: a sponge city is well and truly gone and will

953
00:53:56,495 --> 00:54:02,015
Speaker 2: all improbability flood in future from canter No, not necessarily,

954
00:54:02,615 --> 00:54:05,735
Speaker 2: And I'd point your attention to the Northcote development where

955
00:54:05,775 --> 00:54:09,815
Speaker 2: there's been massive amount of intensification as well as a

956
00:54:09,855 --> 00:54:15,015
Speaker 2: really really well designed, well executed flood mitigation plan that

957
00:54:15,175 --> 00:54:19,415
Speaker 2: worked exceptionally well. During the January twenty three floods, and

958
00:54:19,455 --> 00:54:22,615
Speaker 2: we're seeing an additional forty thousand homes going into that area.

959
00:54:23,375 --> 00:54:25,175
Speaker 2: But because they've put the time and effort into the

960
00:54:25,215 --> 00:54:30,215
Speaker 2: flood prevention details, it worked quite well. So I think,

961
00:54:30,455 --> 00:54:33,695
Speaker 2: you know, we are going to see more development and

962
00:54:33,735 --> 00:54:37,015
Speaker 2: if it's done well, you can manage these things. And

963
00:54:37,055 --> 00:54:39,375
Speaker 2: then we had a bit of a chat around the

964
00:54:39,655 --> 00:54:42,455
Speaker 2: granny flat legislation for one of a better term. Hey

965
00:54:42,495 --> 00:54:45,015
Speaker 2: read the additional tiny homes of the kitchen toilet. Won't

966
00:54:45,055 --> 00:54:48,695
Speaker 2: this also change your this change or this addition to

967
00:54:48,735 --> 00:54:52,495
Speaker 2: your property affect your weights, rates, water discharge, et cetera,

968
00:54:52,495 --> 00:54:58,215
Speaker 2: et cetera. Yes, that's quite possible as well. So undoubtedly

969
00:54:58,775 --> 00:55:01,855
Speaker 2: you know council once they have been informed and you

970
00:55:01,975 --> 00:55:05,255
Speaker 2: must inform them through a PYM a Project information memorandum

971
00:55:05,615 --> 00:55:07,775
Speaker 2: that there will be a new dwelling on the property,

972
00:55:07,975 --> 00:55:11,055
Speaker 2: it will affect your rates and they may also request

973
00:55:11,095 --> 00:55:14,855
Speaker 2: a reserve contribution fee of some description. So again it's

974
00:55:14,975 --> 00:55:17,895
Speaker 2: not like there's no rules. Oh wait, one hundred and

975
00:55:17,895 --> 00:55:19,975
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. We'll take a call a bit later on.

976
00:55:20,495 --> 00:55:22,975
Speaker 2: I think we're going to jump into chatting with Jay

977
00:55:23,095 --> 00:55:25,415
Speaker 2: in just a moment. We've got some good questions, including

978
00:55:25,455 --> 00:55:28,695
Speaker 2: this one. What's the best method to paint interior doors

979
00:55:28,735 --> 00:55:31,095
Speaker 2: with a brush? I'm unable to take the door off

980
00:55:31,135 --> 00:55:34,255
Speaker 2: the hinges. Right, we'll get into that with Jay after

981
00:55:34,295 --> 00:55:34,655
Speaker 2: the break.

982
00:55:35,495 --> 00:55:39,135
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor, get the right advice from

983
00:55:39,135 --> 00:55:44,735
Speaker 1: Pedi Wolfcare, the resident builder on newstalksb.

984
00:55:43,495 --> 00:55:48,255
Speaker 2: Rightioh, Well, the weather's warming up, the days are getting longer.

985
00:55:48,335 --> 00:55:50,975
Speaker 2: The well, I was going to say, the weather's more settled.

986
00:55:50,975 --> 00:55:53,295
Speaker 2: That's not true in every part of the country. But

987
00:55:53,335 --> 00:55:56,095
Speaker 2: if we're talking about painting outside, that sounds like the

988
00:55:56,135 --> 00:56:00,335
Speaker 2: perfect recipe for painting weather. That's what we could call spring.

989
00:56:00,495 --> 00:56:03,855
Speaker 2: From now on in, it's paint and time. Greetings to

990
00:56:03,895 --> 00:56:07,655
Speaker 2: you Jay from Razine. Good morning, Good morning mate.

991
00:56:07,655 --> 00:56:09,495
Speaker 9: How are you too eager?

992
00:56:09,495 --> 00:56:09,655
Speaker 11: Then?

993
00:56:09,695 --> 00:56:13,775
Speaker 9: I was constantly trying to jump in, But.

994
00:56:14,095 --> 00:56:16,855
Speaker 2: You know, I guess if you've been wanting to get

995
00:56:16,935 --> 00:56:20,255
Speaker 2: jobs done and just frustrated with the weather and and

996
00:56:20,335 --> 00:56:23,135
Speaker 2: so on, it's kind of like, right, the handbrakes off.

997
00:56:23,175 --> 00:56:24,175
Speaker 2: Now we're into it.

998
00:56:25,015 --> 00:56:26,175
Speaker 10: Oh, definitely, yeah.

999
00:56:26,295 --> 00:56:30,055
Speaker 9: I mean I was standing my outdoor table and coats

1000
00:56:30,055 --> 00:56:33,055
Speaker 9: are staying on. Yesterday I got sent pictures from other

1001
00:56:33,055 --> 00:56:35,295
Speaker 9: reps that were doing the same as well. So we're

1002
00:56:35,335 --> 00:56:36,415
Speaker 9: all getting ready for summer.

1003
00:56:36,735 --> 00:56:38,895
Speaker 2: I must have been. I sort of wandered around yesterday

1004
00:56:39,655 --> 00:56:42,095
Speaker 2: and it's like, right, that needs touching up. There's a

1005
00:56:42,135 --> 00:56:44,895
Speaker 2: few chips on the steps, you know, that were painted

1006
00:56:44,935 --> 00:56:48,575
Speaker 2: five years ago. Can we deal with that. That might

1007
00:56:48,615 --> 00:56:50,255
Speaker 2: need a bit of a touch up. There's a few

1008
00:56:50,535 --> 00:56:53,135
Speaker 2: ross spots coming through the weather boards. Maybe i'll knock

1009
00:56:53,175 --> 00:56:57,775
Speaker 2: those back and so on. So yeah, yeah, I know,

1010
00:56:57,935 --> 00:56:59,935
Speaker 2: I know we've all got a list, but that's okay,

1011
00:57:00,175 --> 00:57:02,215
Speaker 2: that's okay, that's now's the time.

1012
00:57:02,055 --> 00:57:03,775
Speaker 9: To creep into it.

1013
00:57:04,775 --> 00:57:08,095
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and with that in mine, let's just hit this.

1014
00:57:08,295 --> 00:57:11,015
Speaker 2: Let's get running. So let's start with the first one

1015
00:57:11,375 --> 00:57:14,295
Speaker 2: best method to paint interior doors with a brush. I'm

1016
00:57:14,375 --> 00:57:17,815
Speaker 2: unable to take the doors off the hinges, so if

1017
00:57:17,855 --> 00:57:19,775
Speaker 2: you do have to paint them in situ, I mean,

1018
00:57:19,815 --> 00:57:23,535
Speaker 2: if it's a flat door like a you know, typical

1019
00:57:23,575 --> 00:57:28,055
Speaker 2: sort of panel door, flush door, painting with them, I mean,

1020
00:57:28,095 --> 00:57:30,175
Speaker 2: there's no reason you can't paint with a roller, even

1021
00:57:30,215 --> 00:57:31,575
Speaker 2: if you can't take the door off.

1022
00:57:32,735 --> 00:57:36,655
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, I'm just looking at my into one of

1023
00:57:36,655 --> 00:57:40,415
Speaker 9: my internal doors at the moment. I suppose if you

1024
00:57:40,455 --> 00:57:42,335
Speaker 9: can take it off it's always going to be much

1025
00:57:42,375 --> 00:57:45,135
Speaker 9: easier to get all the sides and at the top

1026
00:57:45,175 --> 00:57:47,415
Speaker 9: and the surrounds. Then the top seems to be the

1027
00:57:47,415 --> 00:57:51,495
Speaker 9: main issue that people just forget about. But yeah, I

1028
00:57:51,535 --> 00:57:54,895
Speaker 9: mean a flat door, I would roll it. It'll be quicker,

1029
00:57:54,935 --> 00:57:59,135
Speaker 9: you get more even finished roller in a roller handle

1030
00:57:59,495 --> 00:58:01,495
Speaker 9: just so you can get even pressure across the whole door.

1031
00:58:01,575 --> 00:58:06,975
Speaker 9: So it just ends up being a more uniformed finish.

1032
00:58:07,055 --> 00:58:10,295
Speaker 9: If you have to brush it, you can do as well.

1033
00:58:10,975 --> 00:58:13,615
Speaker 9: This time of year, I'd think about using the razine

1034
00:58:13,655 --> 00:58:14,575
Speaker 9: hot weather additive.

1035
00:58:15,135 --> 00:58:16,375
Speaker 10: Just helps keep a.

1036
00:58:16,455 --> 00:58:20,135
Speaker 9: Wet edge as you're brushing, and it will help level

1037
00:58:20,215 --> 00:58:22,935
Speaker 9: the paint out so you get a more again, more

1038
00:58:23,015 --> 00:58:24,975
Speaker 9: uniform finish.

1039
00:58:25,415 --> 00:58:28,215
Speaker 2: But challenging that, I'm just thinking about the practicalities, like

1040
00:58:28,295 --> 00:58:31,175
Speaker 2: you'd want a reasonably large brush, like a seventy five

1041
00:58:31,255 --> 00:58:34,855
Speaker 2: mill or something like that. And then if you did

1042
00:58:35,535 --> 00:58:39,295
Speaker 2: painted with a brush top to bottom, you wouldn't paint sideways.

1043
00:58:39,335 --> 00:58:40,895
Speaker 2: Would you to keep shorter strokes?

1044
00:58:41,295 --> 00:58:45,495
Speaker 9: No, I'd go top to bottom, get the paint similar

1045
00:58:45,495 --> 00:58:45,935
Speaker 9: if you're.

1046
00:58:45,855 --> 00:58:46,495
Speaker 10: Rolling as well.

1047
00:58:46,575 --> 00:58:49,775
Speaker 9: Really yeah, absolutely, top to bottom and then lay off

1048
00:58:49,815 --> 00:58:52,735
Speaker 9: once you've got the paint there. So just try and

1049
00:58:52,815 --> 00:58:56,415
Speaker 9: keep it all one direction, nice and smooth, so everything

1050
00:58:56,455 --> 00:58:57,335
Speaker 9: levels out nicely.

1051
00:58:57,695 --> 00:58:58,295
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.

1052
00:58:58,375 --> 00:59:00,095
Speaker 9: Otherwise, if you're going left to right, you can have

1053
00:59:00,135 --> 00:59:01,975
Speaker 9: brush marks all the way through it. If you don't

1054
00:59:02,055 --> 00:59:04,655
Speaker 9: lay off, you can see all the brush marks. Yes,

1055
00:59:04,775 --> 00:59:06,695
Speaker 9: so it'll be challenging with a brush I think I'll

1056
00:59:06,735 --> 00:59:08,015
Speaker 9: just get the roll of yeah, I.

1057
00:59:07,935 --> 00:59:11,575
Speaker 2: Think, so cutting around the edges and enroll yeah, yeah, perfect.

1058
00:59:11,575 --> 00:59:12,615
Speaker 10: I don't forget the top.

1059
00:59:13,495 --> 00:59:17,015
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like actually the top of the the door,

1060
00:59:18,095 --> 00:59:20,415
Speaker 2: like the very top, but that you can't see unless

1061
00:59:20,415 --> 00:59:24,415
Speaker 2: you're standing on a ladder. Yeah, even for interior doors.

1062
00:59:24,455 --> 00:59:27,295
Speaker 2: Like I funny, if I go and do like pre

1063
00:59:27,375 --> 00:59:29,735
Speaker 2: purchased inspections that sort of thing, I'll often open the

1064
00:59:29,775 --> 00:59:31,575
Speaker 2: door and run my hand across the top to see

1065
00:59:31,575 --> 00:59:34,055
Speaker 2: whether they've painted it. Because to me, it's a it's

1066
00:59:34,095 --> 00:59:35,335
Speaker 2: a quality issue.

1067
00:59:35,535 --> 00:59:37,855
Speaker 9: Yeah, nine times out of ten that hasn't been sanded.

1068
00:59:37,935 --> 00:59:42,055
Speaker 9: It's it's rough. Yeah, it's just those little things make

1069
00:59:42,095 --> 00:59:45,055
Speaker 9: a difference. Yeah, Like if you primate and paint it,

1070
00:59:45,335 --> 00:59:48,935
Speaker 9: it's going to stop getting any moisture. It's clean, and

1071
00:59:48,975 --> 00:59:51,775
Speaker 9: it's just that quality thing, Like people haven't done that

1072
00:59:51,815 --> 00:59:54,575
Speaker 9: where else haven't they? Standard crept in crime.

1073
00:59:55,055 --> 00:59:58,615
Speaker 2: Very good question. Right. Oh here's another good question. Uh,

1074
00:59:58,695 --> 01:00:02,415
Speaker 2: cracks in painted decking timber. What's the solution to fill

1075
01:00:02,455 --> 01:00:06,735
Speaker 2: those cracks before repainting? This is Bert from Hot Guzy City.

1076
01:00:08,215 --> 01:00:08,495
Speaker 11: Nice.

1077
01:00:08,815 --> 01:00:17,535
Speaker 9: Nice. It's yeah, obviously you can paint that, but once

1078
01:00:17,575 --> 01:00:20,055
Speaker 9: the timbers split in and cracking, it's it's really a

1079
01:00:20,095 --> 01:00:24,655
Speaker 9: substrate problem. Yes, you can paint it, but those cracks

1080
01:00:24,655 --> 01:00:27,535
Speaker 9: and splits are going to keep coming back. Now you

1081
01:00:27,615 --> 01:00:32,015
Speaker 9: can router out and using the POPSI filler like the

1082
01:00:32,095 --> 01:00:35,695
Speaker 9: repair case. Okay, but like it would probably be easy

1083
01:00:35,815 --> 01:00:39,615
Speaker 9: to replace the worst parts of timber and repaint or

1084
01:00:39,655 --> 01:00:42,455
Speaker 9: reprime and paint, right.

1085
01:00:42,375 --> 01:00:45,015
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because in the end, I mean and also

1086
01:00:45,095 --> 01:00:47,535
Speaker 2: I wonder whether when Hee is dicking, is he talking

1087
01:00:47,575 --> 01:00:50,695
Speaker 2: about like an older house with a tongue and groove dick.

1088
01:00:51,215 --> 01:00:54,015
Speaker 2: And then you're always actually going to get that movement

1089
01:00:54,175 --> 01:00:55,575
Speaker 2: between the boards, right.

1090
01:00:56,175 --> 01:00:58,695
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean timber moves, right, It fans and contracts

1091
01:00:58,695 --> 01:00:59,375
Speaker 9: throughout the year.

1092
01:00:59,895 --> 01:01:01,255
Speaker 10: If you've got splits and cracks and.

1093
01:01:01,295 --> 01:01:04,655
Speaker 9: The timber, they're going to expand and contract at different rate. Yes,

1094
01:01:04,735 --> 01:01:09,215
Speaker 9: So like once you've got splits and cracks along the

1095
01:01:09,255 --> 01:01:12,855
Speaker 9: grain of the timber, that's going to continue moving and

1096
01:01:13,055 --> 01:01:15,215
Speaker 9: at certain points of the year it's going to be

1097
01:01:15,255 --> 01:01:18,055
Speaker 9: worse than other points of the year. So if the

1098
01:01:18,095 --> 01:01:21,095
Speaker 9: paint will work, but if there's cracks and splits in

1099
01:01:21,135 --> 01:01:22,975
Speaker 9: the substrate, it's going to come back.

1100
01:01:23,415 --> 01:01:27,495
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, perfect, Peyton j. Please to be fair, I've

1101
01:01:27,535 --> 01:01:30,535
Speaker 2: never had a question like this. Please advise on which

1102
01:01:30,695 --> 01:01:33,655
Speaker 2: razine paint system I could use for a cast iron

1103
01:01:33,935 --> 01:01:34,895
Speaker 2: menhole cover.

1104
01:01:36,335 --> 01:01:42,095
Speaker 9: Okay, I'd probably go with the Armor x GP metal primer,

1105
01:01:42,935 --> 01:01:47,855
Speaker 9: and then if it's one of those if you're driving

1106
01:01:47,935 --> 01:01:53,455
Speaker 9: over it, Lumberside will work, but if you stop on

1107
01:01:53,535 --> 01:01:55,735
Speaker 9: it and you have hot tires on it, it's going

1108
01:01:55,775 --> 01:01:57,215
Speaker 9: to pull the standard paint off.

1109
01:01:57,695 --> 01:01:59,775
Speaker 10: Yes, so you could go the GP.

1110
01:01:59,575 --> 01:02:03,095
Speaker 9: Medal primer followed by Lumberside or Sonics or Luster crill

1111
01:02:04,015 --> 01:02:06,815
Speaker 9: or it's a case of using sometime of the Alma

1112
01:02:06,895 --> 01:02:10,055
Speaker 9: code two two one, which is a two peck, followed

1113
01:02:10,055 --> 01:02:14,455
Speaker 9: by the urocraal system yep. But standardly I'd say just

1114
01:02:14,495 --> 01:02:17,575
Speaker 9: GP metal primer and then Lumberside or Sonics over the top.

1115
01:02:17,935 --> 01:02:22,135
Speaker 2: Perfect, Thank you very much. Uh dressed timber twenty more

1116
01:02:22,215 --> 01:02:27,055
Speaker 2: thick wooden plank fence that was previously stained brown. We

1117
01:02:27,135 --> 01:02:30,655
Speaker 2: now want to paint or restain it to a lighter color.

1118
01:02:31,215 --> 01:02:33,855
Speaker 2: Can you advise the prip work involved to paint or

1119
01:02:33,975 --> 01:02:40,135
Speaker 2: stain so? Yay, conventional exterior fence probably dark brown and

1120
01:02:40,215 --> 01:02:42,135
Speaker 2: they want to go lighter. How do you do that

1121
01:02:42,215 --> 01:02:43,095
Speaker 2: with stains?

1122
01:02:43,695 --> 01:02:45,855
Speaker 9: So with stains, you're not going to be able to

1123
01:02:46,415 --> 01:02:50,015
Speaker 9: all the stains are semi transparent, so the color that's

1124
01:02:50,055 --> 01:02:52,015
Speaker 9: on there or the color of the timber is going

1125
01:02:52,055 --> 01:02:57,455
Speaker 9: to affect the top coat color. So unless you stand

1126
01:02:57,535 --> 01:03:00,455
Speaker 9: it right back and then restain it only really where

1127
01:03:00,455 --> 01:03:04,415
Speaker 9: you can go lightly. But to paint it, it would

1128
01:03:04,415 --> 01:03:07,935
Speaker 9: be an oil based primude was in wood primer and

1129
01:03:07,975 --> 01:03:10,895
Speaker 9: then lumberside or sonics over the top, depending if you

1130
01:03:10,895 --> 01:03:12,895
Speaker 9: want a locin or semigloss.

1131
01:03:14,535 --> 01:03:17,055
Speaker 2: So you'd need to sort of sand back a little

1132
01:03:17,055 --> 01:03:20,575
Speaker 2: bit of the stain. If you're going to stain it, Yeah,

1133
01:03:20,575 --> 01:03:21,775
Speaker 2: If you're going to stain it, yep.

1134
01:03:22,535 --> 01:03:26,015
Speaker 9: If you're going to paint it, then it depends. If

1135
01:03:26,015 --> 01:03:31,095
Speaker 9: it's a penetrating stain, then just clean it and wood

1136
01:03:31,095 --> 01:03:34,095
Speaker 9: primate and then to paint it. If it's a film

1137
01:03:34,135 --> 01:03:36,975
Speaker 9: forming stain, so it's quite glossy, kind of looks like

1138
01:03:36,975 --> 01:03:39,695
Speaker 9: a paint and sits on the surface. Yes, then yes,

1139
01:03:39,735 --> 01:03:41,935
Speaker 9: you need to give it a sand to de gloss.

1140
01:03:41,655 --> 01:03:45,655
Speaker 2: It right, Okay, all right, so it's doable. But it's

1141
01:03:45,695 --> 01:03:47,015
Speaker 2: always about the prep.

1142
01:03:46,855 --> 01:03:47,215
Speaker 10: Isn't it.

1143
01:03:47,855 --> 01:03:51,095
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's always about the prep. It's always the hardest bit,

1144
01:03:51,215 --> 01:03:53,255
Speaker 9: and it's always the bit that people want to try

1145
01:03:53,255 --> 01:03:54,295
Speaker 9: and find shortcuts for.

1146
01:03:55,615 --> 01:04:00,175
Speaker 2: Right now, this one is quite lengthy, so it's an

1147
01:04:00,215 --> 01:04:03,215
Speaker 2: interior painting job. The house was a rental. It's an

1148
01:04:03,255 --> 01:04:10,255
Speaker 2: older house which heads stained or varnished doors, windows, door frames,

1149
01:04:10,455 --> 01:04:15,455
Speaker 2: skirting and a tongue I groove ceiling. The healths was

1150
01:04:15,695 --> 01:04:19,295
Speaker 2: meth tested and had a very high reading, so the

1151
01:04:19,335 --> 01:04:23,735
Speaker 2: house was cleaned, but the chemicals have reacted with the stain.

1152
01:04:24,815 --> 01:04:28,655
Speaker 2: The cleaners have then scraped all of the affected areas.

1153
01:04:28,695 --> 01:04:34,455
Speaker 2: They've used some shellac based primer undercoat and then two

1154
01:04:34,535 --> 01:04:39,015
Speaker 2: top coats over the top. Question can I use razine

1155
01:04:39,215 --> 01:04:44,295
Speaker 2: malamine and laminate primer instead of another brand? And will

1156
01:04:44,295 --> 01:04:46,935
Speaker 2: it hold just as well to stop the tannins? And

1157
01:04:46,975 --> 01:04:49,975
Speaker 2: could I put water based enamel over the top or

1158
01:04:50,015 --> 01:04:55,255
Speaker 2: will I need to do quick dry? So okay, there's

1159
01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:58,655
Speaker 2: a bit of a yeah it is. So you've got

1160
01:05:00,375 --> 01:05:06,135
Speaker 2: timbero clear finished meth contamination cleaners have been applied that

1161
01:05:06,455 --> 01:05:12,055
Speaker 2: affected the finish on the existing one then and in

1162
01:05:12,335 --> 01:05:14,335
Speaker 2: terms of painting it, what would you need to do

1163
01:05:14,495 --> 01:05:16,455
Speaker 2: to prick the surface for paint.

1164
01:05:16,615 --> 01:05:21,055
Speaker 9: Wow, So from what I know about sort of math contamination,

1165
01:05:21,735 --> 01:05:25,575
Speaker 9: if it's just being used in the property, yeah, once

1166
01:05:25,615 --> 01:05:29,575
Speaker 9: it's been cleaned down, the levels from what I understand,

1167
01:05:30,415 --> 01:05:35,535
Speaker 9: are kind of acceptable that you can just paint and continue. Yes,

1168
01:05:36,095 --> 01:05:39,495
Speaker 9: it's when it's been the math contamination is the result

1169
01:05:39,575 --> 01:05:42,695
Speaker 9: of it being a lab or whether actually making it,

1170
01:05:42,775 --> 01:05:44,655
Speaker 9: it's more of an issue at that point. I think

1171
01:05:44,655 --> 01:05:50,895
Speaker 9: you're looking at almost rejibbing or recladdic. So if it's

1172
01:05:51,015 --> 01:05:52,535
Speaker 9: just the fact that it's been used in the house,

1173
01:05:52,535 --> 01:05:56,255
Speaker 9: it's been high, it's been cleaned, then I think it's

1174
01:05:56,255 --> 01:05:57,855
Speaker 9: fine just to carry on painting.

1175
01:05:57,935 --> 01:06:01,935
Speaker 2: Yes, I think their issue is that the cleaning reaction

1176
01:06:02,255 --> 01:06:05,935
Speaker 2: have reacted with the existing coating. So now you've got

1177
01:06:05,935 --> 01:06:09,335
Speaker 2: maybe does colouration or some cracking or something like that

1178
01:06:09,815 --> 01:06:10,255
Speaker 2: in the.

1179
01:06:10,975 --> 01:06:15,175
Speaker 9: State kind of anything that if there's clear coats cracked

1180
01:06:15,375 --> 01:06:18,015
Speaker 9: or reacted, then it's going to be a case of

1181
01:06:18,175 --> 01:06:20,655
Speaker 9: removing it. As far as on the head, any new

1182
01:06:20,695 --> 01:06:24,695
Speaker 9: coating going over the top is any sticking to that coating.

1183
01:06:24,775 --> 01:06:27,615
Speaker 9: So if you've got issues with the current coating, simply

1184
01:06:27,695 --> 01:06:32,455
Speaker 9: painting it isn't right fix it if the current clear

1185
01:06:32,495 --> 01:06:34,615
Speaker 9: coat is in okay condition.

1186
01:06:35,295 --> 01:06:36,855
Speaker 10: Looking at my ceiling at the moment.

1187
01:06:37,815 --> 01:06:40,895
Speaker 9: There, Yes, you could use the you could use water

1188
01:06:40,895 --> 01:06:44,015
Speaker 9: borne shore seal, you could use the melamine laminate primer.

1189
01:06:46,255 --> 01:06:48,775
Speaker 9: Depending on the top coat color, you could either go

1190
01:06:49,415 --> 01:06:52,855
Speaker 9: straight over or you could do a coat quick dry before.

1191
01:06:53,055 --> 01:06:56,375
Speaker 9: So I mean, if you're doing something white or alabaster,

1192
01:06:56,735 --> 01:07:00,455
Speaker 9: or there's potential for coverage issues, then a coat of

1193
01:07:00,655 --> 01:07:04,175
Speaker 9: quick dry over the primer is always going to help

1194
01:07:04,215 --> 01:07:06,815
Speaker 9: give a more uniform finish a better look.

1195
01:07:07,095 --> 01:07:09,855
Speaker 2: Okay. And it sounds a little bit similar to my

1196
01:07:09,975 --> 01:07:11,855
Speaker 2: project from a couple of years ago where we had

1197
01:07:11,855 --> 01:07:14,535
Speaker 2: a sarked ceiling. So tongue and groove, remove tongue and

1198
01:07:14,575 --> 01:07:17,535
Speaker 2: groove with some polyurethane on it. I didn't want to

1199
01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,975
Speaker 2: pull the ceiling down, but I didn't want the clear finished,

1200
01:07:20,095 --> 01:07:24,135
Speaker 2: so send it back degloss at smooth surface primer, quick dry,

1201
01:07:24,535 --> 01:07:26,695
Speaker 2: couple of coats, a lumbersider job done.

1202
01:07:27,255 --> 01:07:27,455
Speaker 10: Yep.

1203
01:07:27,655 --> 01:07:30,255
Speaker 9: So the smooth surface ceila used this kind of changed

1204
01:07:30,255 --> 01:07:32,015
Speaker 9: to the melamine and lamon at Timer.

1205
01:07:32,295 --> 01:07:32,535
Speaker 2: Yep.

1206
01:07:32,615 --> 01:07:35,455
Speaker 9: And we've now bought out the waterborne shore seal to

1207
01:07:35,615 --> 01:07:39,295
Speaker 9: waterborne pigmented sealer. So either of those who work over

1208
01:07:39,495 --> 01:07:42,055
Speaker 9: the clear coat on the sark sealer.

1209
01:07:42,335 --> 01:07:47,535
Speaker 2: Okay, Brilliant, quick one house has been stripped back to

1210
01:07:47,855 --> 01:07:51,135
Speaker 2: the bear wood on the old weatherboards. The contractor is

1211
01:07:51,135 --> 01:07:54,895
Speaker 2: applying an oil undercoat, what next to top coats or

1212
01:07:54,935 --> 01:07:58,855
Speaker 2: an acrylic undercoat then too top coats. Ah, that's interesting,

1213
01:07:58,935 --> 01:08:03,055
Speaker 2: so strip it back to beer timber. If you do

1214
01:08:03,095 --> 01:08:05,615
Speaker 2: an oil based it wouldn't be an oil based undercoat

1215
01:08:05,615 --> 01:08:07,775
Speaker 2: to be an oil based primer, wouldn't it. Would you

1216
01:08:07,775 --> 01:08:12,415
Speaker 2: then apply in acrylic undercoat, and then you're acrylic top coats.

1217
01:08:13,255 --> 01:08:15,855
Speaker 9: So if you got an all based primer first, yep.

1218
01:08:16,295 --> 01:08:18,535
Speaker 9: Especially after you strips something like that, there's going to

1219
01:08:18,535 --> 01:08:22,175
Speaker 9: be areas that you need to fill, so i'd prime it.

1220
01:08:22,655 --> 01:08:25,615
Speaker 9: I then go around and fill everything, yes, light sand,

1221
01:08:25,655 --> 01:08:29,215
Speaker 9: and then reprime over all of that fillery. At that point, Yeah,

1222
01:08:29,255 --> 01:08:32,175
Speaker 9: I'd go a full coat of seeing quick dry yes,

1223
01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:35,335
Speaker 9: followed by probably sonics over the top, depending on the

1224
01:08:35,335 --> 01:08:36,295
Speaker 9: condition of the boards.

1225
01:08:36,415 --> 01:08:41,495
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, Brilliant, can you please advise me best raisine

1226
01:08:41,535 --> 01:08:45,375
Speaker 2: product to paint a ten year old concrete car port floor,

1227
01:08:46,095 --> 01:08:49,375
Speaker 2: So carport as opposed to garage, so that'll be exposed

1228
01:08:49,415 --> 01:08:50,775
Speaker 2: a little bit to the elements.

1229
01:08:52,935 --> 01:08:55,255
Speaker 10: Yeah, I suppose it's.

1230
01:08:56,135 --> 01:08:59,935
Speaker 9: You love it, think you're driving on it. Yes, So

1231
01:09:00,095 --> 01:09:03,935
Speaker 9: the prep needs to be more substantial. So whether it's

1232
01:09:03,975 --> 01:09:09,095
Speaker 9: inside garage or outside carport, if it needs painting, you're

1233
01:09:09,095 --> 01:09:12,535
Speaker 9: still going to have to diamond grind. Then you're going

1234
01:09:12,615 --> 01:09:16,095
Speaker 9: to have to prime with something like armor bond, and

1235
01:09:16,135 --> 01:09:19,295
Speaker 9: then outside.

1236
01:09:19,975 --> 01:09:21,335
Speaker 10: It would be eurocrill.

1237
01:09:22,095 --> 01:09:25,655
Speaker 9: It's just obviously it's all this diamond grinding. There's two

1238
01:09:25,655 --> 01:09:29,215
Speaker 9: pac products that if you're not confident in using, can

1239
01:09:29,255 --> 01:09:31,975
Speaker 9: be a bit tricky, right, So it's not.

1240
01:09:32,095 --> 01:09:33,175
Speaker 10: Sort of straightforward.

1241
01:09:33,695 --> 01:09:36,895
Speaker 9: Just it's outside, it's slightly sheltered and you're still driving

1242
01:09:36,895 --> 01:09:39,455
Speaker 9: on it. If you went with a standard acrylic system,

1243
01:09:39,855 --> 01:09:42,695
Speaker 9: the paint's just going to pull off with the sort

1244
01:09:42,695 --> 01:09:44,215
Speaker 9: of hot tires turning in sitting.

1245
01:09:45,735 --> 01:09:50,255
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're seeing that, okay. And again especially with you know,

1246
01:09:50,375 --> 01:09:53,175
Speaker 2: ten year old concrete, it will have absorbed a lot

1247
01:09:53,215 --> 01:09:55,775
Speaker 2: of moss and mole and all the rest of it.

1248
01:09:56,175 --> 01:09:59,055
Speaker 2: So quick diamond grind there would be the go and

1249
01:09:59,215 --> 01:10:01,255
Speaker 2: then start you prep from there. That's important.

1250
01:10:02,255 --> 01:10:05,095
Speaker 9: Yeah, it also just leaves after diamond grinding, you're just

1251
01:10:05,095 --> 01:10:09,415
Speaker 9: gonna have a sound surface kind of breaking up or

1252
01:10:09,495 --> 01:10:10,815
Speaker 9: loose or dusty.

1253
01:10:11,655 --> 01:10:14,815
Speaker 2: These are always challenging ones, this one. Is there any

1254
01:10:14,855 --> 01:10:18,975
Speaker 2: paint that I can use to re waterproof serotone in

1255
01:10:19,015 --> 01:10:21,975
Speaker 2: a shower over a bath? The waterproofing is starting to

1256
01:10:22,055 --> 01:10:25,535
Speaker 2: wear a bit in one spot. I guess I would

1257
01:10:25,855 --> 01:10:29,215
Speaker 2: a sure note of caution. It probably is, but it's

1258
01:10:29,215 --> 01:10:32,015
Speaker 2: going to look like you've painted over it. So if

1259
01:10:32,055 --> 01:10:36,415
Speaker 2: that's what it is, okay.

1260
01:10:35,615 --> 01:10:42,415
Speaker 9: It's just if serotones it's like smooth in sheets. The

1261
01:10:42,455 --> 01:10:47,055
Speaker 9: waterproofing's broke. Does that mean it's cracked or damaged? Or

1262
01:10:47,175 --> 01:10:48,495
Speaker 9: is the I think.

1263
01:10:48,375 --> 01:10:51,215
Speaker 2: It's just let's call it wear in te Yeah, let's

1264
01:10:51,215 --> 01:10:52,815
Speaker 2: just call it were in tear for some reason.

1265
01:10:55,095 --> 01:10:57,375
Speaker 9: It's one of those things. It's not designed to be painted,

1266
01:10:57,455 --> 01:11:01,655
Speaker 9: but we've got systems to paint it. If something like

1267
01:11:01,735 --> 01:11:05,855
Speaker 9: that is that sort of worn in it's leaking water,

1268
01:11:05,935 --> 01:11:10,095
Speaker 9: it might be easier just to replace the sure panel. Yeah,

1269
01:11:11,255 --> 01:11:12,935
Speaker 9: but if you wanted to paint it, it would be

1270
01:11:15,775 --> 01:11:19,495
Speaker 9: like probably you know, the water borne share seal and

1271
01:11:19,575 --> 01:11:22,135
Speaker 9: a top coat, or you're looking at armor coat two

1272
01:11:22,135 --> 01:11:23,615
Speaker 9: to one in Europe.

1273
01:11:23,495 --> 01:11:24,855
Speaker 10: Would probably be the best system.

1274
01:11:25,335 --> 01:11:30,535
Speaker 9: It's just a smooth, really smooth and Chinese, so anything's

1275
01:11:30,575 --> 01:11:34,175
Speaker 9: going to sort of require ongoing maintenance. And then then

1276
01:11:34,215 --> 01:11:37,775
Speaker 9: when you add in sort of moisture issues, it's it's

1277
01:11:37,855 --> 01:11:39,415
Speaker 9: kind of do you really want to paint it and

1278
01:11:39,455 --> 01:11:41,855
Speaker 9: deal with the headaches? Just replace the panel?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's one of those ones where you go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: sure you can paint it, but it is just going

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Speaker 2: to look like painted I mean, taking nothing away from

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Speaker 2: the painting obviously, but it still just will look like

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Speaker 2: a painted surface something.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you're going to have the roll of finishing it,

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Speaker 9: You're going to have the brush marks in it, and

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Speaker 9: it's not going to look the same as if you're

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Speaker 9: doing one panel as opposed to everything. Sure, and if

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Speaker 9: it's there's water issues, standard painting, it's going to help,

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Speaker 9: but it's not going to stop those issues.

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Speaker 2: Yep, brilliant. Well that's a nice way to wrap it up, mate,

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Speaker 2: fast and furious. That's what we were after this morning

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Speaker 2: on the show, and much appreciated, and then enjoy your

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Speaker 2: standing and painting later on today. Good weather for it.

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Speaker 2: All right, all this take care, that's Jay one of

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Speaker 2: our painting experts from the good people at Razine, get

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Speaker 2: the right advice, get the right products when you pop

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Speaker 2: down to your local Rasine color shop. Ridyoh, let's talk rubbish.

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Speaker 2: And I'm figuring that there's probably a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: people that have listened to that and just went, well,

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Speaker 2: that's what you're always talking. No, we're talking about construction

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Speaker 2: demolition waste. This week has been construction demolition waste Awareness

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Speaker 2: Week or something like that. We talked to doctor Kerry

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Speaker 2: and Bury last week on the show actually had some

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01:12:59,055 --> 01:13:01,855
Speaker 2: tremendous feedback to that. One of the things that she

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Speaker 2: pointed out too, for people who want a bit more information,

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Speaker 2: have a look at waste hub so waste tub, dot

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Speaker 2: co dot nz gives you lots of information if you

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Speaker 2: are unsure about what facilities are available for you to

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Speaker 2: dispose of or recycle or send to the appropriate place

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Speaker 2: materials that you might have. Brands have also developed a

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Speaker 2: very good website which is essentially allows you anywhere in

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Speaker 2: the country to go on find their waste dispose a website.

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Speaker 2: I'll get you the proper name for that in a

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Speaker 2: minute and then go right. I'm in this part of

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Speaker 2: the country and I need to recycle my batteries, for example,

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Speaker 2: we don't want them going into you certainly don't want

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Speaker 2: to put them in your bin. We might talk with

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Speaker 2: Mark about that in just a moment. So well, well,

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Speaker 2: there are solutions and you can financeers. So have a

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Speaker 2: look at the brand's website, have a look at the

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Speaker 2: wate tub website. Search for your local community recycling center

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Speaker 2: sort of center that I'm involved with. And then we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk with Mark Robitts from Auckland Council after

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Speaker 2: the break line, and then after eight o'clock. We're bringing

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Speaker 2: ridden a bit earlier because of course the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: are about to play Ireland in about an hour and

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes is kickoff commentary here at New stalks HEEDB.

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Speaker 2: We'll start at around eight point thirty this morning it

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Speaker 2: is seven forty two.

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Speaker 1: Were helping you get those DIY projects done right, the

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Speaker 1: resident builder with Peter Wolfgat call Oh eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: ten eighteen Youth Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Your New stalks HEEDB coming up seven forty six and

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Speaker 2: this morning it's my pleasure to welcome to the show

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Speaker 2: Mark Roberts, who is senior waste Planning Specialist and Waste

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Speaker 2: Solutions at Auckland Council. A very good morning to you

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Speaker 2: Mark and thanks for joining us. Peter Morena, Hey, just

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Speaker 2: just quickly, what's your role at council? So what does

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Speaker 2: our senior waste planning specialist do at council?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 14: Auckland Council has a number of objectives under its Waste

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Speaker 14: Management and Minimization Plan which was updated last year. And

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Speaker 14: in that plan we have eight actions that directly focus

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Speaker 14: on construction and demolition waste because obviously it's quite a

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Speaker 14: problem find issue and in essence my role is to

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Speaker 14: give life and activity and initiatives behind those eight actions.

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Speaker 2: Just can you paint for us a bit of a

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Speaker 2: picture in terms of the scale of the I'd written

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Speaker 2: down the size of the problem. Let's call it a

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Speaker 2: challenge in terms of construction demolition waste for in Auckland,

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Speaker 2: and I guess all councils are dealing with this right

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Speaker 2: across the country. Is as a steward, as a body

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Speaker 2: looking to improve the environment. What's the scale of the

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Speaker 2: challenge in terms of construction demolition waste.

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Speaker 14: Well, an Auckland building waste is around about thirty it's

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Speaker 14: about thirty something percent. It's in the thirty percent of

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Speaker 14: all of Auckland's waste, and so that's all waste that's

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Speaker 14: coming from the construction industry. But we also know there's

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Speaker 14: an enormous amount of soil movements created by the building industry,

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Speaker 14: and some figures that came out from the Ministry through

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Speaker 14: the Environment earlier this year, it's kind of point to

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Speaker 14: construction being responsible for about eighty percent of waste that

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Speaker 14: goes to all types of landfills. So that's not just

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Speaker 14: municipal landfills, that clean fills and manusfields and so on

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Speaker 14: as well. So it's a really sizable part of the

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Speaker 14: whole waste picture.

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Speaker 2: And in terms of like obviously we know councils are

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Speaker 2: involved in curbside recycling and those sorts of things, But

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Speaker 2: in terms of council's responsibilities or their engagement with the

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Speaker 2: construction sector, what sorts of solutions are are there? What

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Speaker 2: I suppose what's council's role in providing solutions for construction waste.

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Speaker 14: Well, construction waste sits as a commercial source of waste,

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Speaker 14: so it's not it's not curbside material. So council has

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Speaker 14: kind of little really direct control over what happens to

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Speaker 14: that waste, and so our role is to try and

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Speaker 14: help give the industry information, resources, direction, connections and collaboration

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Speaker 14: are really important. So that's connecting people up to outlets

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Speaker 14: and sources, destinations and initiatives that they can can take.

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Speaker 14: So that's kind of the role that Council takes.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 14: Council is also very active in developing a network of

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Speaker 14: community recycling centers. And I mean it's not just here,

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Speaker 14: it's also other parts of the country. There are many

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Speaker 14: other localized solutions for a covering material popping up. So

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Speaker 14: that's kind of Council's roles in.

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Speaker 2: The picture and the community recycling centers. And I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I have some investment in this in the sense that

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Speaker 2: I'm active and as a trustee of the not for

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Speaker 2: profit that administers our one and Devenport those sorts of things,

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Speaker 2: So I'm sort of in that space and you and

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Speaker 2: I have met through that. But I suppose the one

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Speaker 2: thing that I find is that often when you're talking

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Speaker 2: with people about hey, what are you going to do

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Speaker 2: to manage your waste, they just go, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think there is an answer, but almost

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Speaker 2: inevitably there is an answer. So if builders like myself

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Speaker 2: or homeowners who are about to do a renovation or

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Speaker 2: even a new build, if they're looking for answers to

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Speaker 2: what do I do with the inevitable waste that I'm generating?

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Speaker 2: Where can they go for that?

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Speaker 14: Well, as you just mentioned a little bit earlier, there's

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Speaker 14: quite a lot of resources out there, like, for example,

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Speaker 14: waste hub is one the brand's or rebri website is

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Speaker 14: a good place, yes for builders and and commercial organizations

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Speaker 14: to check out. There are some very good services that

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Speaker 14: are focused on helping helping builders tackle waste. Wastecks is

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Speaker 14: one of those, and also I mean just simple things

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Speaker 14: I caught con counsels unwanted items. Search is also a

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Speaker 14: valuable source of destinations, alternative destinations the building waste.

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Speaker 2: And this is where like the community recycling centers. I

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Speaker 2: was at mine yesterday, right, so, I've been in on

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Speaker 2: Friday with a load of green waste. I went in

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Speaker 2: yesterday to pick up some soil because I needed to

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Speaker 2: replenish the garden. Do you think people are aware of

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Speaker 2: the services that are available through their community recycling centers?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean that's a hard one, and I guess

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Speaker 14: that that network is growing quite quickly, and also the

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Speaker 14: capability within those those individuals is also growing, and so

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Speaker 14: so yeah, it's kind of something you probably need to

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Speaker 14: look into. I think if you are also kind of

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Speaker 14: a commercial player in or you're a builder, yep, then

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Speaker 14: there's there's also services that will take your waste and

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Speaker 14: sort it in a mechanical, mechanical way, and often we

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Speaker 14: have three providers that undertake to understand that as well.

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Speaker 14: There worth looking into for sure, So there's kind of

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Speaker 14: you do have options, and so it's just kind of

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Speaker 14: the key is to start thinking about it early on,

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Speaker 14: not once that your build has started. Yes, then you've

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01:20:47,775 --> 01:20:49,575
Speaker 14: got an immediate problem to deal with, but if you

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Speaker 14: could think about it in advance, that that's kind of

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Speaker 14: the way to go. One of the things that we

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Speaker 14: see widely is that waste is designed into build and

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Speaker 14: so our kind of feeling is that that building wastes

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Speaker 14: create sort of the moment somebody wakes up in the

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Speaker 14: morning in the sides, heck, I'm going to I'm going

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Speaker 14: to create something, and it's the choices from there on

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Speaker 14: then of what you're going to do, how you're going

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Speaker 14: to build at the materials that you choose, the way

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Speaker 14: that you specify and quantity survey those materials, those that's

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Speaker 14: where the ways starts. And so I would also suggest

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Speaker 14: that you kind of really start thinking about waste at

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Speaker 14: that very that very early stage. What what are the

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Speaker 14: implications of your decisions?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, one hundred percent. And we had a bit

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Speaker 2: of a chat this week and one of the things

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Speaker 2: that I wanted to pick up on is that organ Council.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure councils across the country are actively engaged in

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Speaker 2: terms of you know, information right, so going out and

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Speaker 2: talking to sites and to builders on sites about how

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Speaker 2: they're managing their waste. Organ Council has a team like that.

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Speaker 14: Yes, we do, and we carry have. We are working

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Speaker 14: in seven local board areas across the region and we

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Speaker 14: have really kind of skilled and experienced contractors out there

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Speaker 14: engaging with with building sites and the people working on

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Speaker 14: those sites kind of on the ground helping them to

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Speaker 14: access news talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: We're coming right up to news time. I forgot about

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Speaker 2: the break. We'll talk. I'll wrap up the conversation with

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Speaker 2: Mark after the news and I'll give you that information

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Speaker 2: about some really good websites for diverting you waste, where

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Speaker 2: to take the right type of waste straight after the break,

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Speaker 2: remember good at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Doing other house sorting the garden lasked Pete for ahead

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Speaker 1: the resident builder with Peter wolfcap Call eight news talks edb.

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Speaker 2: Right bit of a mad rush at the end of

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Speaker 2: the last hour and that's that's my inability to read time.

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Speaker 2: So my thanks to Mark Roberts from Auckland Council for

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Speaker 2: joining us. And one of the things that we will

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Speaker 2: probably get them back on have a bit of a

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Speaker 2: chat about this is a team that they have that

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Speaker 2: actually actively go out and visit sites, talk to contractors

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Speaker 2: and so on about how they're managing their waste and

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Speaker 2: so on, which is a great initiative. And of course

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Speaker 2: organ Council, like most councils around the country, also administer

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Speaker 2: community recycling schemes which are really great. There are all

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Speaker 2: some organizations you know, around the corner from you in

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Speaker 2: many cases that do a tremendous amount of work. I

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Speaker 2: also mentioned as part of our discussion last week wasste

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Speaker 2: tub dot co dot nz is a great resource. The

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Speaker 2: other thing to do is to just simply Google Brands

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Speaker 2: Waste or Brands Resource Recovery Map so b R A

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Speaker 2: n Z Recovery Map, and then anywhere you are in

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Speaker 2: the country, you just type in what you've got that

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Speaker 2: you want to dispose of and it'll tell you where

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01:24:05,175 --> 01:24:08,135
Speaker 2: to go in the nicest host way, which is awesome,

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Speaker 2: right Oat. Now its slight change to the plan today

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Speaker 2: because we've got a pretty important match between the abs

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Speaker 2: and Island that are made of minds actually sitting in

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Speaker 2: the crowd in Chicago at the moment. Commentary begins at

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01:24:20,415 --> 01:24:23,735
Speaker 2: eight point thirty, so we've got Rud. We've woken them

1491
01:24:23,815 --> 01:24:26,935
Speaker 2: up extra early. Get them here just after eight o'clock.

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01:24:26,975 --> 01:24:30,415
Speaker 2: We'll talk all things gardening and the wonderful world of

1493
01:24:30,455 --> 01:24:34,055
Speaker 2: bugs as well. Rud, Can I jump in and go

1494
01:24:34,895 --> 01:24:38,935
Speaker 2: how freaked out should we be about this yellow legged

1495
01:24:39,055 --> 01:24:43,135
Speaker 2: hornet that seems to have taken up occupation and well

1496
01:24:43,215 --> 01:24:49,295
Speaker 2: Auckland at this stage.

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01:24:47,095 --> 01:24:49,575
Speaker 5: I'd be a bit careful. I'm not too happy with

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01:24:49,615 --> 01:24:51,975
Speaker 5: these guys, by the way, Peter. I've seen them around

1499
01:24:51,975 --> 01:24:57,015
Speaker 5: in Japan and places like Indonesia, so no sense of humor.

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01:24:57,255 --> 01:25:01,375
Speaker 5: They will go for anything that they don't like. They'll

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01:25:01,375 --> 01:25:04,335
Speaker 5: eat bees. Yeah, and that of course gives the bee

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01:25:04,575 --> 01:25:06,175
Speaker 5: keeping industry quite a bit of a trip.

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01:25:06,415 --> 01:25:07,535
Speaker 10: No, it's it's not good.

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01:25:07,855 --> 01:25:09,655
Speaker 5: And I am not sure where we are with the

1505
01:25:09,735 --> 01:25:12,695
Speaker 5: numbers at the moment because I've been Actually I'm about

1506
01:25:12,695 --> 01:25:14,535
Speaker 5: a kilometer away from you and I tried to get

1507
01:25:14,535 --> 01:25:17,295
Speaker 5: to the studio but it wouldn't work for me because

1508
01:25:17,335 --> 01:25:19,615
Speaker 5: I'm working with guess what Auckland Council.

1509
01:25:20,255 --> 01:25:23,295
Speaker 2: Really Okay, well we just said Mark from council on before.

1510
01:25:23,335 --> 01:25:23,935
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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01:25:24,015 --> 01:25:27,535
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. We're doing a predator free HUI

1512
01:25:27,775 --> 01:25:30,535
Speaker 5: all day to day talking about how to catch all

1513
01:25:30,535 --> 01:25:33,295
Speaker 5: the Nazis et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And it's

1514
01:25:33,295 --> 01:25:35,735
Speaker 5: got to be a spanning day with with all the

1515
01:25:35,775 --> 01:25:39,615
Speaker 5: people that have subscribed to coming. But anyway, come back

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01:25:39,655 --> 01:25:45,415
Speaker 5: to that that hornet. No, not good, big thing. I

1517
01:25:45,455 --> 01:25:48,095
Speaker 5: hope we can we can still be on the top

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01:25:48,175 --> 01:25:53,855
Speaker 5: of the numbers. What are the numbers at the moment? Females?

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01:25:54,055 --> 01:25:58,015
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, a couple yesterday or in the last

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01:25:58,055 --> 01:26:00,495
Speaker 2: few days. What I what I wanted to ask you

1521
01:26:00,535 --> 01:26:03,855
Speaker 2: about is that you know online and I know social media,

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01:26:04,175 --> 01:26:06,735
Speaker 2: you know, got to be a bit cautious about taking

1523
01:26:06,735 --> 01:26:09,935
Speaker 2: advice from social media. A couple of people have suggested

1524
01:26:09,975 --> 01:26:14,135
Speaker 2: that there's like something that we can do if we're

1525
01:26:14,615 --> 01:26:18,015
Speaker 2: and these little homemade traps with a certain type of

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01:26:18,055 --> 01:26:20,735
Speaker 2: material in them that will attract the hornets and that

1527
01:26:20,775 --> 01:26:23,535
Speaker 2: sort of thing. Is there any validity? Is there anything

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01:26:23,575 --> 01:26:27,215
Speaker 2: that I can do or anyone in Auckland can do

1529
01:26:27,575 --> 01:26:30,455
Speaker 2: to try and be active in terms of trapping them

1530
01:26:30,575 --> 01:26:33,575
Speaker 2: and capturing and killing them basically.

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01:26:34,895 --> 01:26:38,535
Speaker 5: Well, to be quite honest, I suppose I could do it,

1532
01:26:38,575 --> 01:26:41,495
Speaker 5: because I've done things like this before, you know, as

1533
01:26:41,495 --> 01:26:45,215
Speaker 5: an entomologist. But I would say, be very very careful,

1534
01:26:45,255 --> 01:26:47,655
Speaker 5: don't buck around, and really the first thing you really

1535
01:26:47,695 --> 01:26:51,375
Speaker 5: need to do is just get hold of MPI and

1536
01:26:51,415 --> 01:26:53,255
Speaker 5: see if they could come out. They've got a good

1537
01:26:53,295 --> 01:26:56,575
Speaker 5: team of people that will come and get rid of

1538
01:26:56,615 --> 01:26:59,935
Speaker 5: this little rotter. You know. You know what I'm like

1539
01:27:00,055 --> 01:27:03,935
Speaker 5: with having a bit of a joke about doing wasps

1540
01:27:04,015 --> 01:27:07,175
Speaker 5: and that sort of stuff at night. Holds the torch,

1541
01:27:07,535 --> 01:27:10,015
Speaker 5: you run to the wasp, You toss it quickly into

1542
01:27:10,055 --> 01:27:12,495
Speaker 5: a bag, put it in the freezer and you've got it.

1543
01:27:12,735 --> 01:27:15,375
Speaker 5: But if something goes wrong, of course, the wasps or

1544
01:27:15,455 --> 01:27:17,415
Speaker 5: the hornets will go to the person with the torch

1545
01:27:17,455 --> 01:27:17,935
Speaker 5: in their hand.

1546
01:27:18,215 --> 01:27:19,015
Speaker 2: Tell me about.

1547
01:27:22,695 --> 01:27:23,375
Speaker 11: You got it?

1548
01:27:23,855 --> 01:27:25,615
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't.

1549
01:27:25,815 --> 01:27:27,095
Speaker 9: I wouldn't do that people.

1550
01:27:28,735 --> 01:27:33,335
Speaker 2: Yeah no, But honestly that really surprised me that as

1551
01:27:33,415 --> 01:27:35,415
Speaker 2: I saw a photograph for the first time of the

1552
01:27:35,535 --> 01:27:38,935
Speaker 2: nest that the queen makes and it can let as

1553
01:27:39,015 --> 01:27:40,095
Speaker 2: large as a tennis ball.

1554
01:27:41,295 --> 01:27:42,455
Speaker 10: Yep, that's right.

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01:27:42,615 --> 01:27:46,015
Speaker 5: Whereas the paper wasp has got ah know, the German

1556
01:27:46,215 --> 01:27:49,375
Speaker 5: wasp has got one that is probably the size of

1557
01:27:49,535 --> 01:27:50,375
Speaker 5: a gold bull.

1558
01:27:51,255 --> 01:27:51,415
Speaker 10: Is that?

1559
01:27:52,215 --> 01:27:56,375
Speaker 5: And that means that is how the female basically gets

1560
01:27:56,415 --> 01:28:01,095
Speaker 5: the first brood going off say twenty or thirty new

1561
01:28:01,415 --> 01:28:06,215
Speaker 5: wasplts that will then help to set up the big colony.

1562
01:28:06,535 --> 01:28:11,735
Speaker 2: Yeah right, But I mean we've all seen them, you know,

1563
01:28:11,815 --> 01:28:13,815
Speaker 2: tucked under the eve and that sort of thing, or

1564
01:28:13,855 --> 01:28:16,095
Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle of a tree. You come across

1565
01:28:16,135 --> 01:28:20,615
Speaker 2: these paper wasp in German was NICs. But the this

1566
01:28:20,895 --> 01:28:26,415
Speaker 2: red or this yellow legged hornets. It's actually it's a

1567
01:28:26,455 --> 01:28:31,735
Speaker 2: beautiful piece of architecture in a sense, but quite identifiable,

1568
01:28:31,775 --> 01:28:33,575
Speaker 2: isn't it. So that's what people should be looking out

1569
01:28:33,615 --> 01:28:34,135
Speaker 2: for as well.

1570
01:28:34,695 --> 01:28:37,495
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's quite a bit bigger than the normal world

1571
01:28:37,735 --> 01:28:40,215
Speaker 5: that we always know. And you'll pick it it's of

1572
01:28:40,215 --> 01:28:43,735
Speaker 5: course dark in color, but it's got very bright ends

1573
01:28:43,855 --> 01:28:46,535
Speaker 5: of their legs. All six legs have got nice yellow

1574
01:28:46,615 --> 01:28:48,895
Speaker 5: bits at the end, and you can see that from

1575
01:28:48,975 --> 01:28:52,295
Speaker 5: quite a way away. They also probably will make it.

1576
01:28:52,415 --> 01:28:54,695
Speaker 5: I would say. What I remember is they were quite noisy.

1577
01:28:54,775 --> 01:28:57,975
Speaker 5: It's especially when you came across them. You can hear

1578
01:28:58,015 --> 01:29:01,615
Speaker 5: them kind of you know, going, and a lot more

1579
01:29:01,655 --> 01:29:02,495
Speaker 5: than wasps.

1580
01:29:02,775 --> 01:29:06,135
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, okay, well, eyes open and if you

1581
01:29:06,335 --> 01:29:07,735
Speaker 2: see it or you think you see it, get in

1582
01:29:07,775 --> 01:29:08,575
Speaker 2: touch with MPI.

1583
01:29:09,895 --> 01:29:11,295
Speaker 5: Yeah that's the one.

1584
01:29:11,575 --> 01:29:15,495
Speaker 2: All right, right, let's get into it. Let's uh, hello, Faye,

1585
01:29:15,535 --> 01:29:16,455
Speaker 2: how are you this morning?

1586
01:29:17,135 --> 01:29:19,255
Speaker 5: I'm good, thank you and you I'm very well.

1587
01:29:19,455 --> 01:29:24,255
Speaker 2: Now can I just check Rud? Can you hear faye? Ah? Now,

1588
01:29:24,335 --> 01:29:26,895
Speaker 2: what's happened here? Why have I not been able to

1589
01:29:26,895 --> 01:29:32,215
Speaker 2: conference you? Guys? Right, I'll tell you what. Let's until

1590
01:29:32,215 --> 01:29:34,375
Speaker 2: the break. Let's do it this way, Faye. If you

1591
01:29:34,415 --> 01:29:36,335
Speaker 2: ask the question and then I'll put Rude back on

1592
01:29:36,375 --> 01:29:38,775
Speaker 2: to to give a response, go for it.

1593
01:29:38,815 --> 01:29:44,175
Speaker 15: Faith, I have several conifers through you, some mag and

1594
01:29:44,255 --> 01:29:49,055
Speaker 15: I have just discovered in them a moth which once

1595
01:29:49,135 --> 01:29:53,735
Speaker 15: I contacted mister Google, it looks like it's called gregarious

1596
01:29:54,655 --> 01:29:58,375
Speaker 15: to night, and I want to know how I get

1597
01:29:58,455 --> 01:29:58,815
Speaker 15: rid of it?

1598
01:29:58,895 --> 01:29:59,615
Speaker 7: What spray?

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01:30:00,215 --> 01:30:03,855
Speaker 15: Is there a particular insecticide that I should use? As

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01:30:03,895 --> 01:30:07,255
Speaker 15: if somebody has thrown a mud heavy at the tree

1601
01:30:07,455 --> 01:30:09,935
Speaker 15: and it's woven, it's just killing the trees.

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01:30:10,615 --> 01:30:11,615
Speaker 10: Wow, I need to know.

1603
01:30:11,895 --> 01:30:17,935
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you can hear phase question most perfectly?

1604
01:30:18,055 --> 01:30:18,495
Speaker 5: Can hear it?

1605
01:30:18,935 --> 01:30:19,175
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1606
01:30:19,295 --> 01:30:22,935
Speaker 5: Here we go, say this is the gregarious Teneus is

1607
01:30:23,015 --> 01:30:27,055
Speaker 5: one of those things that literally makes with numbers of caterpillars,

1608
01:30:27,695 --> 01:30:33,175
Speaker 5: starts to chew your your plants. Now literally any insecticides

1609
01:30:33,255 --> 01:30:35,735
Speaker 5: will do. I remember, princess, what have you got to win?

1610
01:30:35,815 --> 01:30:41,015
Speaker 5: And forget the the one you use for for? What

1611
01:30:41,055 --> 01:30:44,735
Speaker 5: do you call us for? What do you what? Forget

1612
01:30:45,855 --> 01:30:55,735
Speaker 5: about the I've forgotten it's the thing that does the

1613
01:30:55,735 --> 01:30:57,655
Speaker 5: pictures that make the webs? What do you call the

1614
01:30:57,695 --> 01:31:02,935
Speaker 5: web thing as spiders? You know, spiders and things like that. Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry,

1615
01:31:03,095 --> 01:31:05,295
Speaker 5: I just think but there was there was a cool

1616
01:31:05,375 --> 01:31:07,415
Speaker 5: name for it, and I forgot the name. It doesn't matter.

1617
01:31:07,495 --> 01:31:10,295
Speaker 5: But if you get that spider stuff and you spray

1618
01:31:10,335 --> 01:31:12,815
Speaker 5: that into your tree, you will get rid of them.

1619
01:31:12,855 --> 01:31:16,015
Speaker 5: It's as simple as that. Also, there are other spider

1620
01:31:16,095 --> 01:31:19,735
Speaker 5: materials or other insecticides that you can use because they

1621
01:31:19,735 --> 01:31:24,575
Speaker 5: contain prometron that will work really well. And talking about prometron,

1622
01:31:25,295 --> 01:31:27,735
Speaker 5: you can get some of the by retroid things that

1623
01:31:27,735 --> 01:31:31,015
Speaker 5: we use on aircraft by Safe Works Safe Works with

1624
01:31:31,055 --> 01:31:34,215
Speaker 5: an X they would work too if you get an aerosol.

1625
01:31:34,655 --> 01:31:36,135
Speaker 5: How many of those trees do you.

1626
01:31:36,135 --> 01:31:37,815
Speaker 7: Have their faith about?

1627
01:31:37,855 --> 01:31:38,095
Speaker 11: Ten?

1628
01:31:39,495 --> 01:31:41,855
Speaker 5: Okay, oh that's a lot. No, you better get something

1629
01:31:41,855 --> 01:31:45,735
Speaker 5: that is that'll go for the long roll. Do it once,

1630
01:31:46,055 --> 01:31:48,815
Speaker 5: do it second time, say about three weeks later.

1631
01:31:49,895 --> 01:31:51,815
Speaker 15: And do I have to sort of open up those

1632
01:31:51,855 --> 01:31:57,975
Speaker 15: little mud petties as such, because the don't caterpillar is totally.

1633
01:31:57,815 --> 01:31:59,175
Speaker 7: Entwined in them.

1634
01:31:59,735 --> 01:32:02,255
Speaker 5: I know, I know, But the problem is, of course

1635
01:32:02,295 --> 01:32:04,975
Speaker 5: that you do that one by one is a bit tricky.

1636
01:32:05,175 --> 01:32:08,375
Speaker 5: But if you made those things is wet with the insecticides,

1637
01:32:08,455 --> 01:32:11,215
Speaker 5: you'll find that that particular caterpillar they will and will not.

1638
01:32:11,615 --> 01:32:13,535
Speaker 5: Then they stand exactly.

1639
01:32:13,575 --> 01:32:18,055
Speaker 2: Thanks really, they thank you very much for that. We'll

1640
01:32:18,095 --> 01:32:19,535
Speaker 2: just take a short break because we've got a couple

1641
01:32:19,535 --> 01:32:22,375
Speaker 2: of ads to get through before the commentary, which will

1642
01:32:22,415 --> 01:32:27,895
Speaker 2: begin at around eight thirty this morning. All Blackspy Ireland

1643
01:32:28,015 --> 01:32:28,735
Speaker 2: coming up soon.

1644
01:32:29,695 --> 01:32:33,175
Speaker 1: Gardling with steel Sharp's battery system kits get a second

1645
01:32:33,175 --> 01:32:37,175
Speaker 1: battery half price. Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with fins,

1646
01:32:37,455 --> 01:32:39,535
Speaker 1: or wondering how to fix that hole in the wall.

1647
01:32:39,615 --> 01:32:44,255
Speaker 1: Give feeder wolf Cap call on eighty the resident builder

1648
01:32:44,335 --> 01:32:45,055
Speaker 1: on Youth Talks.

1649
01:32:45,255 --> 01:32:48,455
Speaker 2: Bod is with us. Not much time today because we

1650
01:32:48,535 --> 01:32:50,575
Speaker 2: have the rugby coming up. But Barry, you want to

1651
01:32:50,575 --> 01:32:51,655
Speaker 2: talk about wasps?

1652
01:32:52,535 --> 01:32:54,975
Speaker 5: Yeah, before we go to the wash well, just before

1653
01:32:55,095 --> 01:32:57,215
Speaker 5: I wanted to talk to Barry. But you know why,

1654
01:32:57,295 --> 01:33:00,375
Speaker 5: I couldn't remember that name of weddn't forget it was

1655
01:33:00,455 --> 01:33:02,375
Speaker 5: called miss Muffetts.

1656
01:33:05,015 --> 01:33:07,735
Speaker 11: And I forgot that, you know what I mean?

1657
01:33:07,775 --> 01:33:10,535
Speaker 2: Anyway, go Verry, get on with it, right, hang on,

1658
01:33:10,575 --> 01:33:13,735
Speaker 2: here we go, very there we go, very go for it.

1659
01:33:14,615 --> 01:33:19,175
Speaker 16: Yeah, good morning. I'm just wondering, for children's sake, is

1660
01:33:19,215 --> 01:33:23,735
Speaker 16: a sting from the Nazi waft compared to the hornets?

1661
01:33:23,815 --> 01:33:25,215
Speaker 16: Are they similar or.

1662
01:33:26,855 --> 01:33:28,615
Speaker 9: Can I about the same?

1663
01:33:28,815 --> 01:33:31,615
Speaker 5: They're the same strength, if you like. Not very funny

1664
01:33:31,615 --> 01:33:33,695
Speaker 5: at all? Yeah, not very good.

1665
01:33:34,495 --> 01:33:37,695
Speaker 10: And that's similar, I would yeah, I would.

1666
01:33:37,535 --> 01:33:39,575
Speaker 5: Say very similar. But what I would do is just

1667
01:33:39,655 --> 01:33:42,335
Speaker 5: stay away from them, really because it does hurt for you,

1668
01:33:42,375 --> 01:33:44,255
Speaker 5: as you know, when you get done by the wasp.

1669
01:33:44,255 --> 01:33:47,095
Speaker 5: It verse for quite a while, and I have.

1670
01:33:47,095 --> 01:33:49,695
Speaker 2: To say rude looking at the photographs of these yellow

1671
01:33:49,775 --> 01:33:54,255
Speaker 2: legged hornets. The stinger on the back, it's not a stinger.

1672
01:33:54,455 --> 01:33:56,415
Speaker 2: It looks like a buddy anti aircraft gun.

1673
01:33:58,935 --> 01:34:00,575
Speaker 7: Good description, there you go.

1674
01:34:01,055 --> 01:34:03,495
Speaker 5: That's exactly what it is. Yes, and it's full of

1675
01:34:03,535 --> 01:34:05,975
Speaker 5: that material that makes you sow it right.

1676
01:34:06,855 --> 01:34:09,095
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm not rushing out to test it, thank

1677
01:34:09,135 --> 01:34:12,375
Speaker 2: you very much. No, don't no, no, okay, all right,

1678
01:34:13,335 --> 01:34:15,055
Speaker 2: Actually we'll take the break now and then we'll come

1679
01:34:15,095 --> 01:34:17,455
Speaker 2: back through it. And a final question ahead of the

1680
01:34:17,535 --> 01:34:19,535
Speaker 2: live commentary of the all black smatch back in the.

1681
01:34:19,535 --> 01:34:23,935
Speaker 1: Bow guardling with Steel Sharp's battery system. Cats get a

1682
01:34:23,975 --> 01:34:29,335
Speaker 1: second battery half price. Squeaky door or squeaky floor get

1683
01:34:29,375 --> 01:34:32,775
Speaker 1: the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder on

1684
01:34:32,895 --> 01:34:33,775
Speaker 1: news Talks, he'd.

1685
01:34:33,655 --> 01:34:35,575
Speaker 2: Be literally two minutes to go.

1686
01:34:35,855 --> 01:34:36,055
Speaker 5: Ray.

1687
01:34:36,215 --> 01:34:37,055
Speaker 2: Brussels sprouts.

1688
01:34:38,095 --> 01:34:41,015
Speaker 11: Yeah, Brussels sprouts? How many do I put off them?

1689
01:34:41,375 --> 01:34:43,655
Speaker 11: If I would say I started off with six and

1690
01:34:43,695 --> 01:34:46,295
Speaker 11: now I'm down to two the weather has been bad

1691
01:34:46,415 --> 01:34:49,615
Speaker 11: or whatever. Now they're starting to put some Brussels spouts

1692
01:34:49,615 --> 01:34:53,055
Speaker 11: on the Do I pull every second one off? Or

1693
01:34:53,455 --> 01:34:54,055
Speaker 11: whatever I do.

1694
01:34:55,455 --> 01:34:57,775
Speaker 5: What do you mean with you've gone from six to

1695
01:34:57,775 --> 01:35:00,855
Speaker 5: two the number of plants that survived.

1696
01:35:00,735 --> 01:35:03,015
Speaker 11: Yeah, the lumber of plants that have survived.

1697
01:35:03,855 --> 01:35:06,215
Speaker 5: What have you got into soil there, Gray.

1698
01:35:06,895 --> 01:35:09,655
Speaker 11: Well, it's a pretty over hat. They weren't pot basically

1699
01:35:11,095 --> 01:35:11,815
Speaker 11: the pots?

1700
01:35:12,655 --> 01:35:17,295
Speaker 5: Yeah, big pots, I hope, because they really do like

1701
01:35:17,375 --> 01:35:19,655
Speaker 5: their their roots to be going all over the place

1702
01:35:19,695 --> 01:35:20,495
Speaker 5: to get their food.

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Speaker 11: Of course, Oh okay, all right, they're shippy enough then.

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Speaker 5: And what is the the constitution of it? Is that

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01:35:30,935 --> 01:35:33,735
Speaker 5: organic material or is it is it? Is it soil

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Speaker 5: as well?

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Speaker 11: And plenty of path in horses?

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Speaker 10: The horses?

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Speaker 11: What the horses?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know what you mean with horses, what they

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Speaker 5: leave the I think you might have gone over the

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01:35:49,855 --> 01:35:51,695
Speaker 5: top a little bit with that because the amount of

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01:35:51,775 --> 01:35:55,415
Speaker 5: nitrogen there is so much that you probably went too far.

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Speaker 5: And the and the other thing is not just organic

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Speaker 5: material and horse foo. Sorry nearly said the wrong word here.

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Speaker 5: I think you you need to do at least more

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Speaker 5: than fifty percent of mineral soil. That means, you know,

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Speaker 5: the stuff that you get in loam and clay and

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01:36:16,095 --> 01:36:20,495
Speaker 5: and things like that, because it can't just be organic material. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: it's not gonna work like that. Sorry, I yeah, water them.

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Speaker 5: I've got the horse stuff and a plastic container, and

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Speaker 5: I use the water to water down the rodge.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it isn't a case of too much of

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01:36:35,055 --> 01:36:35,815
Speaker 2: a good thing rut.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it is far too much of a good thing.

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Speaker 5: And if I would, if I would put you in

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Speaker 5: a horse pool by bucket, I think you wouldn't like that,

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Speaker 5: to be quite honest, Ray, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Look, that's wise words for anyone.

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Speaker 11: Ray.

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Speaker 2: Hope that helps a red climb pass. Enjoy your day,

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Speaker 2: educating people, take care se bag all this.

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