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Speaker 2: Kilder. Good afternoon, Welcome into the Saturday edition of Weekend

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Speaker 2: Sport on News Talks EDB. The eighth of March already,

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine Show producer Andy McDonald here talking sport

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Speaker 2: until three o'clock this afternoon. How good is Super Rugby

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Speaker 2: Pacific right now? Plenty of tries, close contests, upsets, free

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Speaker 2: flowing rugby. Crowd numbers are up, Viewer numbers are up,

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Speaker 2: and i'd imagine fairly happy. Super Rugby Pacific CEO Jack

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Speaker 2: Mesley live and studio very shortly for a chat with us.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts are encouraged as well. Blues fans, what happened

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Speaker 2: to your team last night? A third defeat in four games.

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Speaker 2: Couple of fresh concerns as well. Boden Barrett and Ricky

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Speaker 2: Ricertelli both in doubt for upcoming matches. So I want

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Speaker 2: to talk on and off field super Rugby this hour.

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Speaker 2: Other matters around today, the All Whites couple of games

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Speaker 2: away from next year's FIFA Men's World Cup. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to the man who took them to the World Cup

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Speaker 2: last time in twenty ten, Rory Fallon with that famous

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Speaker 2: goal against Bahrain in two thousand and nine. He's with

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Speaker 2: us after one o'clock. New Zealand Track and Field Champs

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Speaker 2: on this weekend in Dunedin. One of the glamour events,

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Speaker 2: the women's pole vault Paris Olympic Games finalist Olivia mctaggett

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Speaker 2: on the show after two New Zealand squash opener is

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Speaker 2: on an upset during the week, Wellington teenager Ollie Dunbar

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Speaker 2: stunning a player two hundred places above him on the

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Speaker 2: world rankings. He's with us to reflect on that champion's

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Speaker 2: day at Allesley Racecourse today, including the four and a

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Speaker 2: half million dollar inaugural n z b keiwe we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to the trainer of race favorite Evaporate, Adam Peacock, along

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Speaker 2: in his regular slot covering the big sporting stories from

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Speaker 2: the Tasman Live Sport while we're on the air. Track

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Speaker 2: and Field Champs is mentioned in Dunedin Plunket Shield four

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Speaker 2: day cricket matches to keep tabs on in Auckland, Hamilton

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Speaker 2: enter their final day fourth innings run chases happening in

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Speaker 2: all three. This is your show to contribute to. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

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Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Hie the Call eighty eighty

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Speaker 2: Super Rugby Pacific continues to deliver. Round four opened last

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Speaker 2: night with an upset of Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: The Brumby's have it under lock and key, the siren goes,

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Speaker 3: the arms go up for the Brumbies. They win an

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Speaker 3: one twenty. The Rumby stun the Blues in the garden.

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Speaker 2: That eat it They certainly didn't. Among those in attendance

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Speaker 2: last night was Super Rugby Pacific CEO Jack Mesley, who's

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Speaker 2: joined us in studio. Did the Australian in you enjoy

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Speaker 2: watching the Brumby speak the Blues last night, Jack.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, as the competition administrator, unexpected results are

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Speaker 5: It that way.

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Speaker 4: Piney, I was kindly hosted by the Blues, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's a twelve percent rise on last year, which you know,

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Speaker 2: How happy are you with crowd numbers you know in

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Speaker 2: I guess from your point of view, it wouldn't matter

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean it is fundamental for club pemals and

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Speaker 4: there is no there is no single point of breakdown here.

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Speaker 4: as you said, like what what can we do better?

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Speaker 2: And you've got to get away how much engagement you're

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Speaker 5: We're getting, you know, a whole lot of a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: All right, And are you expecting another upset tonight when

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Speaker 5: You know he's a hard man to nullify, isn't he.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, that's what's that's what's worrying me. That is

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Speaker 2: Oh good on your mate. That's Jack Mesley, CEO of

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Speaker 2: to unpack there, so I'm keen to get your thoughts.

432
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Speaker 2: Going to open the lines, Oh, eight hundred and eighty

433
00:22:38,067 --> 00:22:40,987
Speaker 2: ten eighty if you'd like to pick up on anything

434
00:22:40,987 --> 00:22:44,427
Speaker 2: you heard there, nine two ninety two on text, or

435
00:22:44,547 --> 00:22:46,627
Speaker 2: call us to the show this hour. Go into the drawer,

436
00:22:46,747 --> 00:22:51,507
Speaker 2: incidentally for a pretty cool price, because next weekend, what

437
00:22:51,587 --> 00:22:55,067
Speaker 2: we're what we're going to see is I'm just sorry.

438
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:57,707
Speaker 2: I'm just moving some screens here so I can see

439
00:22:57,707 --> 00:23:03,347
Speaker 2: the text machine. I've got it. Next weekend, all five

440
00:23:03,387 --> 00:23:08,147
Speaker 2: of the New Zealand sides are wearing special kit modeled

441
00:23:08,147 --> 00:23:12,507
Speaker 2: on Marvel superheroes. This is during super Kids Round the Chiefs,

442
00:23:13,027 --> 00:23:17,427
Speaker 2: Black Panther, the Blue Spider Man, the Crusaders, Iron Man,

443
00:23:17,467 --> 00:23:23,187
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes, Captain America and the Highlanders Hulk. So all

444
00:23:23,227 --> 00:23:24,907
Speaker 2: callers to the show this hour, we'll go into the

445
00:23:24,987 --> 00:23:29,187
Speaker 2: draw to win the shirt of your choice. All right,

446
00:23:29,227 --> 00:23:31,907
Speaker 2: one of those shirts is going to be given away

447
00:23:31,907 --> 00:23:35,467
Speaker 2: this our courtesy of our friends at Super Rugby Pacific

448
00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:41,067
Speaker 2: by pretty much every measure Super Rugby has started really

449
00:23:41,107 --> 00:23:43,747
Speaker 2: really well, hasn't it in twenty twenty five? If you

450
00:23:44,267 --> 00:23:49,947
Speaker 2: had been disengaged, have you become re engaged? And why?

451
00:23:50,547 --> 00:23:52,707
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighteen our Blues fans,

452
00:23:52,747 --> 00:23:55,587
Speaker 2: I want to get your take on last night and

453
00:23:55,707 --> 00:23:57,747
Speaker 2: on the first four rounds. The big issue for you

454
00:23:58,547 --> 00:24:02,827
Speaker 2: seems to be scoring points. Just eighty eight points in

455
00:24:02,987 --> 00:24:05,947
Speaker 2: four games for the Blue so far this season. Apart

456
00:24:05,947 --> 00:24:08,947
Speaker 2: from the Tea games who have only played two games,

457
00:24:09,787 --> 00:24:12,627
Speaker 2: every other team has scored more than that, most of

458
00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:16,307
Speaker 2: them in only three games. So scoring points seems to

459
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Speaker 2: be an issue for the Blues. How much concern is

460
00:24:19,427 --> 00:24:23,747
Speaker 2: there Blues fans from you? And just on the Fiji

461
00:24:23,787 --> 00:24:28,587
Speaker 2: and Drewer travel shamble story that broke this week. Brenton Pe,

462
00:24:29,107 --> 00:24:31,267
Speaker 2: who is the chair of the Fiji and Drewer, was

463
00:24:31,267 --> 00:24:34,867
Speaker 2: on with Darcy last night. His view was that the

464
00:24:34,947 --> 00:24:38,947
Speaker 2: blame for this lay with the Hurricanes as the host union.

465
00:24:38,987 --> 00:24:41,667
Speaker 2: Now listening to Jack Mesley there and just doing a

466
00:24:41,667 --> 00:24:45,267
Speaker 2: little bit of phoning around myself, I'm not sure that's

467
00:24:45,307 --> 00:24:49,707
Speaker 2: the complete story as I understand it, and I've checked

468
00:24:49,707 --> 00:24:52,747
Speaker 2: this out with a few people today. Travel and accommodation

469
00:24:53,707 --> 00:24:58,747
Speaker 2: are the domain of the competition organizes. The host team

470
00:24:59,187 --> 00:25:03,507
Speaker 2: in this case, the Hurricanes does not book the travel

471
00:25:03,547 --> 00:25:09,107
Speaker 2: and accommodation for the traveling team. That is done by SANSA,

472
00:25:09,187 --> 00:25:15,627
Speaker 2: the competition organizers. Now we know about the bus that

473
00:25:15,667 --> 00:25:22,227
Speaker 2: didn't turn up and that has subsequently been discovered to

474
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Speaker 2: be an era by the bus company, So that's not

475
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Speaker 2: something that you can lay at the feet of the Hurricanes.

476
00:25:29,907 --> 00:25:32,507
Speaker 2: The issue of the late checkout, Now, what happened here

477
00:25:32,627 --> 00:25:35,387
Speaker 2: was that the game was in the afternoon. Both teams

478
00:25:35,387 --> 00:25:38,507
Speaker 2: were staying, as I understand it, at the same hotel.

479
00:25:40,347 --> 00:25:43,867
Speaker 2: The Hurricanes were granted a late checkout, but the Fiji

480
00:25:43,907 --> 00:25:48,427
Speaker 2: and Drewer were not. Now, I can only assume that

481
00:25:48,467 --> 00:25:53,587
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes arranged that for themselves, and it is not

482
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Speaker 2: up to them to make arrangements for their opposition. If

483
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Speaker 2: the Fiji and Drewer wanted a late checkout, surely it's

484
00:26:01,747 --> 00:26:08,067
Speaker 2: up to them to request it. They're new to the competition,

485
00:26:08,187 --> 00:26:12,107
Speaker 2: so they're learning as they go. But to blame the

486
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Speaker 2: Hurricanes for what has played out here is very much,

487
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Speaker 2: I think, anyway, barking up the wrong tree. If I'm

488
00:26:17,747 --> 00:26:19,427
Speaker 2: in a sports team, if I'm a Fijian drew and

489
00:26:19,507 --> 00:26:23,467
Speaker 2: player and I land at Auckland Airport and there's no bus.

490
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Speaker 2: The first person I'm looking to for answers is my

491
00:26:29,267 --> 00:26:33,947
Speaker 2: own team manager. If I get to our hotel and

492
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Speaker 2: I'm told I have to check out by ten the

493
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Speaker 2: next morning, I'm asking the team manager, my own team manager,

494
00:26:40,187 --> 00:26:42,307
Speaker 2: what the plan is for us between then and when

495
00:26:42,347 --> 00:26:44,907
Speaker 2: we go to the ground, or whether there's a possibility

496
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Speaker 2: of a late checkout or why one hasn't been arranged.

497
00:26:48,427 --> 00:26:51,107
Speaker 2: The bus company has accepted responsibility for the mix up there,

498
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Speaker 2: Okay again, why is that the Hurricanes issue? It just

499
00:26:56,147 --> 00:26:58,347
Speaker 2: feels to me as though people have seen this picture

500
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Speaker 2: which was widely circulated of the Fiji and drewer traveling

501
00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:04,067
Speaker 2: in the back of a truck to the game or

502
00:27:04,187 --> 00:27:07,147
Speaker 2: from the airport to their hotel, you know, aucklind and Napier,

503
00:27:07,747 --> 00:27:10,347
Speaker 2: and immediately blame the Hurricanes New Zealand Rugby. It's not

504
00:27:10,387 --> 00:27:15,347
Speaker 2: their fault. Super Rugby organization sansa. If I'm the Fijian drewer,

505
00:27:16,067 --> 00:27:22,747
Speaker 2: I'm taking some internal lessons from this. Do not assume anything,

506
00:27:23,587 --> 00:27:29,987
Speaker 2: check and double check again. If I'm a member of

507
00:27:30,027 --> 00:27:32,667
Speaker 2: the Fiji and Drewer and these things happen, and not

508
00:27:32,827 --> 00:27:35,827
Speaker 2: just these things, the one hundred and one other things

509
00:27:35,827 --> 00:27:38,347
Speaker 2: that might happen during the course of an away trip.

510
00:27:38,747 --> 00:27:43,947
Speaker 2: My first point of contact is my own manager. Twenty

511
00:27:43,987 --> 00:27:47,187
Speaker 2: four away from One, Gotta get a breakaway. A whole

512
00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:48,667
Speaker 2: bunch of calls to get to. We'll get to them

513
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,347
Speaker 2: in just a moment. Talking Super Rugby on Weekend Sport.

514
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Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend

515
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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's

516
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Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News talksv.

517
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Speaker 2: Twenty three Away from One, Full Border Calls eight hundred

518
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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty Hello Joe, good afternoon.

519
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Speaker 7: Thank you for having me on Weekend Sport.

520
00:28:10,587 --> 00:28:12,307
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us on Weekend Sport.

521
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Speaker 7: Joe so Giffney was one of the fans who got

522
00:28:16,267 --> 00:28:21,987
Speaker 7: slightly disengaged. I think the competition, particularly during COVID, just

523
00:28:21,987 --> 00:28:24,427
Speaker 7: didn't have the appeal. It wasn't a fast moving game

524
00:28:24,787 --> 00:28:29,467
Speaker 7: and we're definitely still missing the staffas Jeff San definitely

525
00:28:29,827 --> 00:28:32,587
Speaker 7: enjoying the faster pace of the game, and I think

526
00:28:32,707 --> 00:28:35,347
Speaker 7: the Australian coaching and influence you're seeing it in the

527
00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:38,227
Speaker 7: teams as well. They're moving a bit faster, playing the

528
00:28:38,267 --> 00:28:42,147
Speaker 7: ball and running, more, buring, kicking and so yeah, enjoying

529
00:28:42,147 --> 00:28:44,347
Speaker 7: a competition more and pretty happy with how the chests

530
00:28:44,387 --> 00:28:45,947
Speaker 7: are going. We just hope Damien's okay.

531
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Speaker 2: I was going to say all the Chiefs fans at

532
00:28:48,507 --> 00:28:50,467
Speaker 2: the moment, I'm sure are one of two emotions. They're

533
00:28:50,507 --> 00:28:52,947
Speaker 2: loving what's happening. But yeah, but worried about Damien. I

534
00:28:52,947 --> 00:28:55,307
Speaker 2: think he'll probably be okay. Joe, it didn't seem like

535
00:28:55,307 --> 00:28:57,667
Speaker 2: one of those where they're talking about him being out

536
00:28:57,667 --> 00:29:00,867
Speaker 2: for weeks and weeks and weeks. But it's interesting you

537
00:29:00,907 --> 00:29:03,267
Speaker 2: say about the Australian teams as well. I think while

538
00:29:03,267 --> 00:29:06,027
Speaker 2: we all want to beat Australian teams in any sport,

539
00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:09,667
Speaker 2: we all don't we want an even competition where there's

540
00:29:09,667 --> 00:29:10,587
Speaker 2: a bit of jeopardy around.

541
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

542
00:29:12,147 --> 00:29:14,427
Speaker 7: Yeah, we want some closer games and it's been nice

543
00:29:14,507 --> 00:29:17,787
Speaker 7: this season so far, the highest scoring closer games. Sorry

544
00:29:17,827 --> 00:29:21,507
Speaker 7: about the Blues, Gosh, the second half they just slip

545
00:29:21,547 --> 00:29:24,267
Speaker 7: through their fingers. But yeah, I still think New Zealand

546
00:29:24,387 --> 00:29:28,347
Speaker 7: is missing having the physicality from the South Africans. Sorry,

547
00:29:28,427 --> 00:29:32,627
Speaker 7: the Pacific tournament doesn't offer that for us, and that's

548
00:29:32,667 --> 00:29:35,027
Speaker 7: where we I guess we've still got to gap.

549
00:29:36,147 --> 00:29:38,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, and I think that goes up to

550
00:29:38,547 --> 00:29:40,067
Speaker 2: the All Blacks too, doesn't it. And not that it's

551
00:29:40,067 --> 00:29:44,787
Speaker 2: Super Rugby's job to necessarily you know, they don't have

552
00:29:44,827 --> 00:29:47,187
Speaker 2: to serve the All Blacks. Yes, they do indirectly by

553
00:29:47,227 --> 00:29:49,507
Speaker 2: giving them high quality rugby. But you think you're right,

554
00:29:49,507 --> 00:29:53,147
Speaker 2: we do miss that raw boned physicality of the South

555
00:29:53,187 --> 00:29:55,627
Speaker 2: African teams up against our teams. I'm miss it. I

556
00:29:55,707 --> 00:29:57,907
Speaker 2: used to love watching us, you know, my Hurricanes take

557
00:29:57,947 --> 00:29:59,947
Speaker 2: on the Sharks or the Balls, whoever it was, and

558
00:30:00,067 --> 00:30:03,027
Speaker 2: I'm sure you would have been the same definitely.

559
00:30:03,787 --> 00:30:07,627
Speaker 7: Well that just was a little bit more predictable in

560
00:30:07,747 --> 00:30:09,827
Speaker 7: a little bit different tactics to what we see from

561
00:30:09,867 --> 00:30:12,227
Speaker 7: the Pacific and Australian teams. And I think that's what

562
00:30:12,267 --> 00:30:15,307
Speaker 7: New Zealand rugby needs. It needs that challenge. We used

563
00:30:15,307 --> 00:30:17,387
Speaker 7: to give them the run round and they used to

564
00:30:17,627 --> 00:30:18,707
Speaker 7: make us tougher.

565
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Speaker 2: Good on your Joe, enjoy your your team's game against

566
00:30:23,027 --> 00:30:25,107
Speaker 2: the drawer this afternoon as well, there'll be another interesting

567
00:30:25,347 --> 00:30:27,107
Speaker 2: challenge for them. Three from three, of course, top the

568
00:30:27,107 --> 00:30:30,227
Speaker 2: table still favorites in my eyes. But yeah, the Fijian

569
00:30:30,267 --> 00:30:32,507
Speaker 2: drawer this afternoon in l'artok will be a good test

570
00:30:33,107 --> 00:30:36,907
Speaker 2: for your team minus Damien Mackenzie. Of course. I see

571
00:30:36,907 --> 00:30:41,147
Speaker 2: Sean Stevenson is back in the twenty three Emanni Nudder

572
00:30:41,267 --> 00:30:43,227
Speaker 2: was going to play at fullback. I think you'll be okay.

573
00:30:43,667 --> 00:30:46,027
Speaker 2: I think you'll be okay. Good to Jetty, Joe, Hi, Mark.

574
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Speaker 8: Hey Finy. Yeah, you take that hurricane bow and baron out.

575
00:30:50,467 --> 00:30:51,147
Speaker 9: Of the balloons.

576
00:30:51,187 --> 00:30:52,707
Speaker 8: They look pretty ordinary, don't they really?

577
00:30:54,187 --> 00:30:57,147
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he looked good in the first half. Mark,

578
00:30:57,227 --> 00:31:00,307
Speaker 2: I must say that that try he scored vintage body.

579
00:31:00,387 --> 00:31:03,147
Speaker 2: I was pleased to see them playing him at first five.

580
00:31:03,947 --> 00:31:04,147
Speaker 10: Yeah.

581
00:31:04,147 --> 00:31:06,187
Speaker 2: I worry a little bit about how long it'll take

582
00:31:06,187 --> 00:31:08,027
Speaker 2: from to be back. But they do have Harry Plummer

583
00:31:08,707 --> 00:31:11,107
Speaker 2: you know who, as you know, played well there last year.

584
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's quite surprising how bad the Blues have started

585
00:31:16,307 --> 00:31:19,507
Speaker 8: the season considering last year where they're sort of dominated. Really,

586
00:31:20,427 --> 00:31:23,587
Speaker 8: I think you touched on with the last caller. We

587
00:31:23,627 --> 00:31:27,947
Speaker 8: need Australia to succeed, for Super Rugby to be to

588
00:31:28,027 --> 00:31:30,467
Speaker 8: be as good as we hope it will be. And

589
00:31:30,507 --> 00:31:33,107
Speaker 8: you can dwell on the fact that South Africa has gone.

590
00:31:33,147 --> 00:31:35,547
Speaker 8: They've gone and they ain't coming back, you know, to

591
00:31:35,667 --> 00:31:38,307
Speaker 8: Super Rugby now. I mean, I think the Fiji and

592
00:31:38,387 --> 00:31:42,827
Speaker 8: Druid's great to see them competitive, and I think they've

593
00:31:42,867 --> 00:31:44,947
Speaker 8: probably been quite unlucky in their three games and they

594
00:31:44,987 --> 00:31:47,307
Speaker 8: could have probably won all those three games I've played

595
00:31:47,307 --> 00:31:51,107
Speaker 8: so far. I think to even it up, I'd like

596
00:31:51,227 --> 00:31:54,467
Speaker 8: to see what we see in the NRL and some

597
00:31:54,587 --> 00:31:58,667
Speaker 8: Kiwi stars getting into those teams because we want to

598
00:31:58,707 --> 00:32:00,987
Speaker 8: see weekend week out. I mean, over the years, I

599
00:32:01,027 --> 00:32:04,547
Speaker 8: haven't already watched many of the Australian derbies or even

600
00:32:04,587 --> 00:32:06,827
Speaker 8: when I've sort of always switched off in the last

601
00:32:06,867 --> 00:32:09,907
Speaker 8: few years when New Zealand's played Australian teams because it's

602
00:32:09,907 --> 00:32:12,427
Speaker 8: always just been a bit of an exhibition game. And

603
00:32:12,507 --> 00:32:16,387
Speaker 8: I think for the Super Rugby competition and our international

604
00:32:16,427 --> 00:32:20,587
Speaker 8: teams to get better, we need to see the Australian

605
00:32:20,627 --> 00:32:24,827
Speaker 8: teams and some somewhere near power with the Kiwi teams.

606
00:32:24,867 --> 00:32:27,587
Speaker 8: And I think that's the challenge for Super Rugby. And

607
00:32:27,667 --> 00:32:30,627
Speaker 8: I think Australia, you know, with the World Cup coming up,

608
00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:32,307
Speaker 8: and I think they've got a big lions to it

609
00:32:32,347 --> 00:32:35,507
Speaker 8: coming up. I think it's a good opportunity to promote

610
00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:38,707
Speaker 8: rugby in Australia because I mean, we know how good

611
00:32:38,907 --> 00:32:42,067
Speaker 8: they are at sports people Australia, but they don't like losers.

612
00:32:42,107 --> 00:32:44,187
Speaker 8: They don't like losing, you know what I mean. And

613
00:32:45,187 --> 00:32:49,947
Speaker 8: the teams. If the teams start to beat the Crusaders

614
00:32:50,027 --> 00:32:53,187
Speaker 8: or the Blues or not, how hopefully our Hurricanes, but

615
00:32:53,507 --> 00:32:57,627
Speaker 8: maybe the Chief it would be it would be good

616
00:32:57,667 --> 00:33:00,507
Speaker 8: to watch and it would be good for rugby in

617
00:33:00,507 --> 00:33:01,267
Speaker 8: this part of the world.

618
00:33:01,307 --> 00:33:03,547
Speaker 2: I reckon, Yeah, I agree, Mark, And you look at

619
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Speaker 2: the table at the moment, and all four Australian sides

620
00:33:07,347 --> 00:33:09,387
Speaker 2: as things stand right now, are in the top six.

621
00:33:09,907 --> 00:33:13,467
Speaker 2: Chiefs are top. Then the Reds, Highlanders, Forced Brumbies, Warritars. Yes,

622
00:33:13,507 --> 00:33:15,587
Speaker 2: we're only one game into a round and the table

623
00:33:15,587 --> 00:33:20,587
Speaker 2: will change by dinner time tomorrow night, but you have

624
00:33:20,627 --> 00:33:22,227
Speaker 2: to hand it to them. Reds are two from two.

625
00:33:22,347 --> 00:33:24,867
Speaker 2: The Force have looked good. The Brumbies beat the Blues

626
00:33:24,947 --> 00:33:27,387
Speaker 2: last night. As we know, the Waratars are unbeaten through

627
00:33:27,387 --> 00:33:34,107
Speaker 2: two games. They are starting to compete and you have

628
00:33:34,227 --> 00:33:37,667
Speaker 2: to draw a correlation between them going from five teams

629
00:33:37,707 --> 00:33:40,307
Speaker 2: to four and the talent being spread. I think that's

630
00:33:40,307 --> 00:33:44,667
Speaker 2: got to be part of it. Another Mark good they mark, Yeah, Pony.

631
00:33:44,547 --> 00:33:48,267
Speaker 11: Hey, look great game last night. I mean, you know,

632
00:33:49,187 --> 00:33:52,107
Speaker 11: we've got to start realizing that. You know, we've seen

633
00:33:52,107 --> 00:33:55,707
Speaker 11: a lot of our good coaches to Australia. Obviously they've

634
00:33:55,947 --> 00:33:59,227
Speaker 11: sat back, they've listened, they've learned, and they're starting to

635
00:33:59,267 --> 00:34:03,067
Speaker 11: show that school levels that you know, they've picked up.

636
00:34:03,387 --> 00:34:06,107
Speaker 11: And it's pleasing to see the game. But what really

637
00:34:06,147 --> 00:34:10,787
Speaker 11: really worries me is that we are not blooding enough

638
00:34:11,027 --> 00:34:14,067
Speaker 11: young guys coming through for the next World Cup in

639
00:34:14,107 --> 00:34:18,067
Speaker 11: the three years time. And Australia seems to have a

640
00:34:18,147 --> 00:34:20,867
Speaker 11: lot of young guys here. You know, they are showing

641
00:34:20,907 --> 00:34:23,707
Speaker 11: their marks now, their school levels and everything like that.

642
00:34:24,067 --> 00:34:25,587
Speaker 11: They're going to be a couse to reckon with in

643
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Speaker 11: the next couple of years. And that worries me that

644
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Speaker 11: we're not actually doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's a point Mark. I hadn't even

646
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Speaker 2: considered it. I guess I look at the players who

647
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Speaker 2: are contracted through until the next World Cup and I think, okay,

648
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Speaker 2: it's a decent side, but you're right, they'll be three

649
00:34:42,387 --> 00:34:45,147
Speaker 2: years older by the time twenty twenty seven rolls around.

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Speaker 2: You look at the young gerl guys and the team

651
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Speaker 2: and I guess Walla Satiti is the best example. Injured

652
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Speaker 2: at the moment, of course, but you'd have to think

653
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Speaker 2: that he's one of the new breed. Others like Sam

654
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Speaker 2: Dowry another one who's injured at the moment. Ruben Love's

655
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Speaker 2: coming back players who have been given opportunities under Razor

656
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four And I know, do you have

657
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Speaker 2: confidence that that those names will appear, that somebody what

658
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Speaker 2: you haven't heard of will start for us at the

659
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven Rugby World Cup.

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Speaker 11: Well, so, I mean, you know Damian m Kings's I mean,

661
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Speaker 11: he's playing probably some of the bit of rugby this

662
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Speaker 11: year than he has for the last couple of years.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, we need to keep we need

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Speaker 11: to have is you know, a couple of real good

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Speaker 11: apprentices under him coming through. But it just worries me that,

666
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Speaker 11: you know, the front row. Yeah, they've got some good

667
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Speaker 11: skill levels, they've got some you know, played quite a

668
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Speaker 11: few games over the last few years. But I still

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Speaker 11: in the back of my mind, I sit and I

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Speaker 11: look at you know, Australia, what they've miniature achieved the

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Speaker 11: last this, you know, last few games at the head

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Speaker 11: Brumby's last night. I mean, you know the skill lebel

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Speaker 11: is stepping up. I'd feel a lot quicker than one

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Speaker 11: house is. And what is how are we going to

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Speaker 11: make them?

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Speaker 2: It's a really interesting observation, mark one I hadn't thought of.

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Speaker 2: As I say, let's chat often over the next three years.

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Speaker 2: You've got the number. Now just give us a yell

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Speaker 2: at any stage. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: quarters to one back with more of your calls after.

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Speaker 1: This, the big issues on and after fields call oh

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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty weekends forward with Jason.

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Speaker 12: Pine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunderhomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

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Speaker 12: News Talk said Baby.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, b all call us this hour and

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Speaker 2: the draw to win one of the specially designed Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby Pacific jerseys that the New Zealand teams will wear

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Speaker 2: and kids around next weekend models on the Marvel Superheroes.

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Speaker 2: Can I Matt get a boy?

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Speaker 13: How are you mate?

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Speaker 14: Very good?

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Speaker 2: Matt, very good.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm I'm one of these people that have been

695
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Speaker 15: completely Yeah, I hardly ever used to watch Super Rugby

696
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Speaker 15: and I'll tell you what the law changes have made.

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Speaker 15: It made a huge difference. I mean you can see

698
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Speaker 15: the fitness of the boys, you know, and that's I

699
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Speaker 15: mean that goes back to traditional rugby, you know, with

700
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Speaker 15: the you know, with the amount of subs and stuff

701
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Speaker 15: you could have back in my day you couldn't have

702
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Speaker 15: any really, But I mean, you know, you're just just

703
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Speaker 15: watching it. As the games go on, you know, the

704
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Speaker 15: gats get wider, the tackles, they fall off tackles, and

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Speaker 15: it's just it's actually really entertaining to watch. I was

706
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Speaker 15: a bit gutted with me Chiefs the other night, but

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Speaker 15: and I didn't think the Brumbies were going to get back,

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Speaker 15: and they did, so, I mean, I just I think

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Speaker 15: the whole thing's are going really well. Now a question

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Speaker 15: if with it, are these same rules going to apply

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Speaker 15: for international rugby this year?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately not, Matt. No, they are just super rugby rules.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it won't be vastly different. It's just as

714
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Speaker 2: you heard Jack Measley say, a couple of rule innovations

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Speaker 2: which have sped up the game here in terms of

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Speaker 2: the way it's officiated, the way particularly around the pace

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Speaker 2: of the game. But if you're super rugby if your

718
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Speaker 2: sayings are you looking at it and saying, okay, well

719
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Speaker 2: gee this has worked. It's a much better watch. So yes,

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Speaker 2: let's try and implement this at aternational level as well.

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Speaker 2: M sure why you're worried about your chiefs, mate, there're

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Speaker 2: three and three good to tet ya hello Kelvin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, mate, you haven't got a couple of issues with

724
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Speaker 6: rugby the last few years. They've sort of switched me

725
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Speaker 6: off the game because I've got three points. The first

726
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Speaker 6: one is the TMO coming in uninvited, so I now

727
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Speaker 6: don't watch international rugby after last year's November window, watching

728
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Speaker 6: the video ref come and uninvited all the time. And

729
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Speaker 6: if you just take the Hoskins at Tutu one last weekend,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it should only get a red card if

731
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Speaker 6: it's intentional foul play, and I think it only should

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Speaker 6: have been a penalty, but no, no, he got a

733
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Speaker 6: yellow card and upgraded to a yellow So you know,

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Speaker 6: I just think that's ridiculous. I mean, that's just it's

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Speaker 6: a physical sport and he didn't do it on purpose.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is a lot of teams are turning

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Speaker 6: down three points all the time, I'm a bit old fashion.

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Speaker 6: I just think you take the points why they're there.

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Speaker 6: And the other thing is they go for a line

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Speaker 6: out instead and they can't even throw it in. Just

741
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Speaker 6: I don't know why they just don't throw it to

742
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Speaker 6: the front all the time if they want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've got to get a couple more calls

744
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Speaker 2: on the air. But yeah, look, I think you're turning

745
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Speaker 2: out of the three points. I think you know, they'll

746
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Speaker 2: wake up this morning, the Blues and wonder why they

747
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Speaker 2: didn't take the three more often in a one one

748
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Speaker 2: point game. I think as far as the the Yellows

749
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Speaker 2: and reds are concerned, the referees are just going under

750
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Speaker 2: the letter of the law at the moment. They can't

751
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Speaker 2: do anything about it. You know it is you know,

752
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Speaker 2: Hoskins are two two Last week it was a red card.

753
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Speaker 2: It was a yellow head contact and they're no mitigating factors.

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Speaker 2: So under the rules of super rugby at the moment

755
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Speaker 2: and in fact world rugby, it is a red card.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there was any argument from the

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Speaker 2: Blues about that. You had about sixty seconds turn what's

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Speaker 2: on your mind?

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Speaker 13: I reckon, yeah, the same. The rules these days were

760
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Speaker 13: the speeding up was great. Pliney makes it more more

761
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Speaker 13: interesting to watch, you know, and I reckon that will

762
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Speaker 13: take likes of the South Africans out a little bit

763
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Speaker 13: because of the big forwards are going to have to

764
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Speaker 13: look at change in their structure a bit because they

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Speaker 13: can't slow it down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what's South Africa have done though? Today?

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Speaker 2: They've They've worked us out with their bomb squad, you know,

768
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Speaker 2: bringing on using their bench to the to the maximum

769
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Speaker 2: impact because you're because fatigue is clearly going to be

770
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Speaker 2: You're going to reach for tigue quicker with the game faster, right,

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Speaker 2: So it's the use of the bench. It's a twenty

772
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Speaker 2: three men game. Rasci Erasmus all have his plans made

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Speaker 2: he already has.

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Speaker 13: Hey, well, and keep an eye out for Harry Godfree's air.

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Speaker 2: All love that boy? I do, yeah, not just because

776
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Speaker 2: I'm a Hurricane's fansom. I hear you, mate, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Good to chat to you. It's seven away from one

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Speaker 2: New Talks b.

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Speaker 1: Goo from the trag Field and and the Court on

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Speaker 1: your Home of Lord Weekend's Fort with.

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Speaker 2: Jason John on text. I'm from Melbourne but live here

782
00:41:01,147 --> 00:41:03,147
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. I'm an AFL fan through and through.

783
00:41:03,227 --> 00:41:05,227
Speaker 2: It's in my blood. But for the first time in years,

784
00:41:05,267 --> 00:41:08,587
Speaker 2: I'm engaged in Super Rugby. It's become faster and slicker.

785
00:41:08,587 --> 00:41:11,387
Speaker 2: The skills are truly being showcased by the players. The

786
00:41:11,427 --> 00:41:14,067
Speaker 2: close scores to date are reflecting that, and any team

787
00:41:14,387 --> 00:41:16,547
Speaker 2: can win on the day. All the things I love

788
00:41:16,667 --> 00:41:20,747
Speaker 2: about AFL. Bring on more Super Rugby. Thank you, John, appreciated,

789
00:41:20,787 --> 00:41:26,907
Speaker 2: appreciate all of your calls and correspondents. Congratulations to Joe, Joe,

790
00:41:26,947 --> 00:41:29,427
Speaker 2: we've drawn your name out. You are now the proud

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Speaker 2: owner of a Super Rugby Marvel jersey of your choice.

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Speaker 2: These are the special jerseys being worn by the five

793
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Speaker 2: New Zealand sides during Kids Round next week and he'll

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Speaker 2: be in touch Joe to arrange that jersey for you.

795
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Speaker 2: After one o'clock we'll flick across to football and relive

796
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Speaker 2: one of the great nights in New Zealand football with

797
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Speaker 2: Rory Fallon.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest spots, issues on

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Speaker 1: and after fields.

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Speaker 12: It's all on Wi Jens Forward with Jason Vain on

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Speaker 12: your Home of Sports.

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Speaker 2: Or one seven. Welcome back into the show. We'll welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show. I'm Jason pine And and McDonald's show producer.

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Speaker 2: This is weekend Sport until three. A lot to get

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Speaker 2: through over the next couple of hours. Just mopping up

806
00:42:13,427 --> 00:42:15,747
Speaker 2: the last couple of bits of correspondence from last hour.

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00:42:16,227 --> 00:42:18,507
Speaker 2: Kelly asks on text, Jason, do you think it would

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Speaker 2: have made the news if all that stuff had happened

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Speaker 2: to the hurricanes in Fiji rather than the other way around? Kelly, iikes,

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Speaker 2: you think it probably would have been worse. I think

811
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Speaker 2: we would have all beat up in arms about it.

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00:42:31,267 --> 00:42:33,187
Speaker 2: If a New Zealand team had gone to Fiji and

813
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Speaker 2: the same thing had happened to them, we would have

814
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Speaker 2: been beside ourselves, falling over ourselves to place blame at

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Speaker 2: the feet of the Fijian drewer authorities or whatever it was.

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00:42:47,267 --> 00:42:51,787
Speaker 2: I can just hear it now, But as is the

817
00:42:51,827 --> 00:42:54,107
Speaker 2: situation here, I think the first person that you would

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Speaker 2: have to look at if the same thing had happened

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Speaker 2: in reverse would be the manager of the hurricanes, which

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Speaker 2: is why I said what I said last hour, and

821
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Speaker 2: that the first person who needs to I guess he

822
00:43:06,867 --> 00:43:10,067
Speaker 2: looked at in the situation is the manager of the

823
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Speaker 2: Fijian drewer. What did they do what didn't they do?

824
00:43:14,667 --> 00:43:16,427
Speaker 2: You heard Jack Mesley saying, we just heard the cut

825
00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:19,827
Speaker 2: from the Massports News there. It wasn't one person blame.

826
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Speaker 2: Isn't to be a portion to one person here. But

827
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Speaker 2: when you're a professional sports team, the manager of that team,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the coach, the manager of the team,

829
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Speaker 2: the one who looks after all the logistics, is the

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Speaker 2: one who the players go to if something goes wrong

831
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Speaker 2: during their travels or in their everyday professional life. So yeah, Kelly,

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Speaker 2: I think we would have. You know, we would have,

833
00:43:42,907 --> 00:43:45,947
Speaker 2: and I think a large section of the of the

834
00:43:46,027 --> 00:43:49,867
Speaker 2: rugby public would probably have pointed fingers at the Fijian

835
00:43:49,947 --> 00:43:54,467
Speaker 2: drewer where actually fingers need to be pointed at, or

836
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Speaker 2: in this case that you talk about hypothetical as it is,

837
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Speaker 2: at the management of the Hurricanes. Anyway, we move on.

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00:43:59,507 --> 00:44:02,707
Speaker 2: Thanks for your text, Kelly, Thanks for your calls and correspondents.

839
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Speaker 2: We're across the Tasman with Adam Peacock this hour checking

840
00:44:05,467 --> 00:44:09,627
Speaker 2: on the impact of Cyclone Alfred on sport in the

841
00:44:09,667 --> 00:44:12,507
Speaker 2: state of Queensland. Will update Live Sport as well with

842
00:44:12,507 --> 00:44:15,147
Speaker 2: Blunket shield matching match is happening around the place and

843
00:44:15,267 --> 00:44:18,747
Speaker 2: the track and Field Champs in Dunedin. This is the

844
00:44:18,787 --> 00:44:21,387
Speaker 2: New Zealand Track and Field Champs. Most of our big

845
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Speaker 2: stars are there. One of them, Olivia McTaggart, is in

846
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Speaker 2: the women's pole volt a bit later on this afternoon

847
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Speaker 2: that scheduled to go at he says, checking his schedule.

848
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Speaker 2: Four forty this afternoon. Eliza McCartney and Olivia McTaggart both

849
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Speaker 2: taking part in the women's pole volts. So Olivia mctagget

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Speaker 2: with us after two o'clock. But we're going to start

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Speaker 2: this hour with football. The All Whites two games away

852
00:44:46,027 --> 00:44:49,547
Speaker 2: from next year's Football World Cup. For the first time,

853
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Speaker 2: Oceania has direct entry into what will be a forty

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Speaker 2: eight team World Cup co hosted by the United States,

855
00:44:57,947 --> 00:45:02,507
Speaker 2: Canada and Mexico. Now New Zealand play Fiji in Wellington

856
00:45:02,947 --> 00:45:05,907
Speaker 2: on Friday, the twenty first of March. If they win

857
00:45:06,027 --> 00:45:09,307
Speaker 2: that they would then play the winner of Tahiti and

858
00:45:09,347 --> 00:45:12,107
Speaker 2: New Caledonia. That's the other semi final if you like,

859
00:45:12,587 --> 00:45:14,667
Speaker 2: which also takes place in Wellington on the twenty first

860
00:45:14,707 --> 00:45:17,547
Speaker 2: of March. The two winners play at Eden Park on

861
00:45:17,627 --> 00:45:21,347
Speaker 2: the night of Monday, March twenty fourth for a place

862
00:45:21,507 --> 00:45:23,987
Speaker 2: at the World Cup. The last time the All Whites

863
00:45:24,027 --> 00:45:27,387
Speaker 2: went to the World Cup was twenty ten in South Africa.

864
00:45:27,427 --> 00:45:30,627
Speaker 2: They got their courtesy of one of the most memorable

865
00:45:30,747 --> 00:45:34,227
Speaker 2: nights in New Zealand sporting history, a one miil win

866
00:45:34,427 --> 00:45:38,227
Speaker 2: over bah Rain in Wellington on the fourteenth of November

867
00:45:38,227 --> 00:45:40,907
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. The All Whites goal scorer that

868
00:45:41,027 --> 00:45:50,187
Speaker 2: night was Rory Fallon. Here comes Burdos right put it out.

869
00:45:53,147 --> 00:45:54,907
Speaker 16: Well, we can't hear a thing but a minute, Tealia,

870
00:45:55,027 --> 00:45:56,227
Speaker 16: I think it's Rory Fallon.

871
00:45:55,987 --> 00:45:57,027
Speaker 2: Who's found the back of the net.

872
00:45:57,067 --> 00:45:57,987
Speaker 17: The bar came in from.

873
00:45:57,827 --> 00:46:01,587
Speaker 16: Bertosk Rory Fallon Rose were and headed the ball powerfully

874
00:46:01,627 --> 00:46:02,307
Speaker 16: past the keeper.

875
00:46:02,947 --> 00:46:05,787
Speaker 2: Still so vivid when I went now sixteen years on

876
00:46:06,507 --> 00:46:08,467
Speaker 2: and a half sixteen years on from that Rory fell

877
00:46:08,507 --> 00:46:10,587
Speaker 2: in us with us on Weekend Sport. What stands out

878
00:46:10,627 --> 00:46:12,507
Speaker 2: most when you think back to that night.

879
00:46:12,427 --> 00:46:15,707
Speaker 18: Rory, are just the great memories that I kind of

880
00:46:15,747 --> 00:46:18,307
Speaker 18: shared with the team, you know, as that whole time

881
00:46:18,427 --> 00:46:20,867
Speaker 18: was a magical time, like the two thousand and nine

882
00:46:20,947 --> 00:46:24,507
Speaker 18: and ten era was just such a beautiful time in

883
00:46:24,547 --> 00:46:27,667
Speaker 18: New Zellan and football, I felt, you know, and it

884
00:46:27,827 --> 00:46:31,507
Speaker 18: was a bunch a bunch of mates that kind of

885
00:46:31,547 --> 00:46:33,707
Speaker 18: trained together when they were younger, and they all kind

886
00:46:33,707 --> 00:46:36,307
Speaker 18: of kind of got to one of the biggest, the

887
00:46:36,427 --> 00:46:39,747
Speaker 18: world's biggest stage together and it was just a beautiful time.

888
00:46:40,227 --> 00:46:42,227
Speaker 2: It was a different setup back then. You had to

889
00:46:42,627 --> 00:46:45,547
Speaker 2: play a home and away into continental playoffs. So you'd

890
00:46:45,587 --> 00:46:48,587
Speaker 2: been to bah Rain, got a nil OL drawer over there,

891
00:46:49,067 --> 00:46:53,267
Speaker 2: Do you remember being quite confident heading into the home league.

892
00:46:54,467 --> 00:46:58,107
Speaker 18: Yeah, so we were confident going into that into that

893
00:46:58,187 --> 00:47:02,387
Speaker 18: game away. We knew that if we just needed a draw,

894
00:47:02,467 --> 00:47:05,947
Speaker 18: we knew that we could scrap for a draw, and

895
00:47:06,467 --> 00:47:08,107
Speaker 18: we knew that was going to be a hard game,

896
00:47:08,107 --> 00:47:10,267
Speaker 18: but we felt that we had enough in that and

897
00:47:10,347 --> 00:47:15,787
Speaker 18: that team was a team of kind of seasoned professionals

898
00:47:15,827 --> 00:47:19,307
Speaker 18: in overseas leagues, you know, so we weren't scared. We're

899
00:47:19,387 --> 00:47:23,387
Speaker 18: you know, good pros, were tough and we were hard

900
00:47:23,427 --> 00:47:26,667
Speaker 18: to beat, and yeah, we we once we knew that

901
00:47:26,707 --> 00:47:28,747
Speaker 18: we were going to take them back home and all

902
00:47:28,747 --> 00:47:31,547
Speaker 18: we needed to do was get a win. We felt

903
00:47:31,547 --> 00:47:32,267
Speaker 18: that we could do it.

904
00:47:32,627 --> 00:47:35,747
Speaker 2: That was a horrible night in Wellington that won't surprise anybody.

905
00:47:36,427 --> 00:47:39,867
Speaker 18: But a great for us though, because that's what we wanted. Yeah,

906
00:47:39,947 --> 00:47:43,347
Speaker 18: we wanted to be cold, have that wind coming through

907
00:47:43,347 --> 00:47:45,787
Speaker 18: the stadium, and it was perfect conditions for us.

908
00:47:46,387 --> 00:47:48,587
Speaker 2: And I've heard a lot of stories from those who

909
00:47:48,627 --> 00:47:51,547
Speaker 2: were there that right before you walked out onto the pitch,

910
00:47:51,867 --> 00:47:54,387
Speaker 2: the bar rain players have come out, They're shivering, they

911
00:47:54,427 --> 00:47:57,907
Speaker 2: wearing gloves, you know, trying to stay warm, and you

912
00:47:58,667 --> 00:48:02,227
Speaker 2: basically just started shouting at your team. These guys don't

913
00:48:02,227 --> 00:48:03,907
Speaker 2: want it, they don't want to be here. Is that right?

914
00:48:03,987 --> 00:48:04,667
Speaker 2: Is that what happened?

915
00:48:05,307 --> 00:48:07,147
Speaker 18: Yeah, pretty much square it up to them, and I

916
00:48:07,267 --> 00:48:09,027
Speaker 18: just like I just looked across at them. I was like,

917
00:48:09,027 --> 00:48:10,987
Speaker 18: look at these guys like wearing their gloves and there

918
00:48:11,587 --> 00:48:14,827
Speaker 18: and their scarves and stuff like that. They aren't they're

919
00:48:14,827 --> 00:48:15,267
Speaker 18: too scared.

920
00:48:15,267 --> 00:48:19,107
Speaker 2: They don't want us, So the game gets under There

921
00:48:19,147 --> 00:48:19,627
Speaker 2: was a lot more.

922
00:48:19,667 --> 00:48:22,707
Speaker 18: There was a lot more kind of flavorsome language than

923
00:48:22,707 --> 00:48:25,627
Speaker 18: that as well. I'm trying to I'm trying to. I'm

924
00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:26,227
Speaker 18: trying to keep it.

925
00:48:26,307 --> 00:48:30,947
Speaker 2: PG here Sentertiz to get for radio. I greatly appreciate

926
00:48:30,987 --> 00:48:36,267
Speaker 2: exactly what about the crowd that night, because there was

927
00:48:36,307 --> 00:48:38,547
Speaker 2: this call that went at hating you know, we're white,

928
00:48:38,587 --> 00:48:40,587
Speaker 2: and I thought I thought it was okay, a few

929
00:48:40,667 --> 00:48:43,107
Speaker 2: people all wear white. The whole crowd was white. Man,

930
00:48:43,147 --> 00:48:45,067
Speaker 2: What do you remember about the about the crowd that night?

931
00:48:46,427 --> 00:48:48,627
Speaker 18: It was electric from as as soon as we got

932
00:48:48,667 --> 00:48:52,907
Speaker 18: in there. I remember even before we got there, the

933
00:48:53,027 --> 00:48:57,187
Speaker 18: people walking up to the stadium really early. Usually that

934
00:48:57,227 --> 00:48:59,707
Speaker 18: never happens in football and New Zealand around that time,

935
00:48:59,707 --> 00:49:01,947
Speaker 18: where people walked to the stadium early. But it was

936
00:49:01,987 --> 00:49:05,867
Speaker 18: almost like that kind of fever pitch and an expectation

937
00:49:06,067 --> 00:49:08,627
Speaker 18: of this is a big thing, this is something happening,

938
00:49:08,747 --> 00:49:11,907
Speaker 18: something's going to something BIG's going to happen tonight. And

939
00:49:12,067 --> 00:49:14,147
Speaker 18: when we kind of got in the bus and we

940
00:49:14,187 --> 00:49:17,227
Speaker 18: got through to the stadium, ever you know, all the

941
00:49:17,227 --> 00:49:20,707
Speaker 18: there was like massive lightings cues outside the stadium waiting

942
00:49:20,707 --> 00:49:22,907
Speaker 18: to get in and just you hit this raw of

943
00:49:22,947 --> 00:49:26,067
Speaker 18: all the people, like so the buzz of it was unreal.

944
00:49:26,627 --> 00:49:31,387
Speaker 18: And then you know usually in New Zealand games for

945
00:49:31,507 --> 00:49:33,587
Speaker 18: warm up there's no one in the stadium.

946
00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:34,667
Speaker 12: It was packed.

947
00:49:36,427 --> 00:49:37,627
Speaker 18: It was absolutely packed.

948
00:49:38,587 --> 00:49:40,507
Speaker 2: Just brilliant. Yeah, I remember so well.

949
00:49:40,507 --> 00:49:42,227
Speaker 18: And yeah, and just seeing and just seeing the eighty

950
00:49:42,267 --> 00:49:44,627
Speaker 18: two team walk around and like the you know, the

951
00:49:45,147 --> 00:49:47,387
Speaker 18: crowd we got behind the eighty two team and it

952
00:49:47,507 --> 00:49:50,907
Speaker 18: just kind of put it put shivers down your spine,

953
00:49:51,067 --> 00:49:53,667
Speaker 18: like how how magical that was, you know, and then

954
00:49:53,667 --> 00:49:56,347
Speaker 18: obviously when we walked out, it was just awesome just

955
00:49:56,347 --> 00:49:57,387
Speaker 18: just to see a wait, you know.

956
00:49:58,067 --> 00:50:00,387
Speaker 2: So it was goalless for most of the first half.

957
00:50:00,467 --> 00:50:03,587
Speaker 2: Right before halftime, talk us through year goal, Rory, what

958
00:50:03,627 --> 00:50:05,747
Speaker 2: do you remember of it? What stands out most vividly

959
00:50:05,747 --> 00:50:06,667
Speaker 2: when you think they're to it?

960
00:50:07,947 --> 00:50:08,307
Speaker 14: Jue?

961
00:50:10,027 --> 00:50:14,267
Speaker 18: Obviously, I remember it was almost like the Barnley connection

962
00:50:14,347 --> 00:50:17,107
Speaker 18: with me and Leo, because we played football together in

963
00:50:17,147 --> 00:50:19,787
Speaker 18: the youth teams and that in the first team at Barnsley,

964
00:50:20,427 --> 00:50:22,947
Speaker 18: and he would always whip great balls in for me

965
00:50:22,987 --> 00:50:25,667
Speaker 18: and always practice would we would always practice those, you know,

966
00:50:25,707 --> 00:50:28,267
Speaker 18: him whipping balls in for me for my head and

967
00:50:28,307 --> 00:50:30,507
Speaker 18: stuff like that. We worked on it the night before

968
00:50:30,747 --> 00:50:33,307
Speaker 18: and I just remember just him just stepping up, you know,

969
00:50:33,427 --> 00:50:36,667
Speaker 18: putting the famous one arm up and just ripping that

970
00:50:36,707 --> 00:50:39,427
Speaker 18: ball in their posts, and I just it was it

971
00:50:39,467 --> 00:50:41,427
Speaker 18: was one of them things where it was muscle memory.

972
00:50:42,027 --> 00:50:44,307
Speaker 18: It wasn't planned. It was a kind of muscle memory

973
00:50:44,307 --> 00:50:46,707
Speaker 18: thing where it's just like I went into the flow

974
00:50:46,747 --> 00:50:50,547
Speaker 18: of it, you know, and just thankfully I got a

975
00:50:50,587 --> 00:50:53,027
Speaker 18: great connection onto it and there was no chance of

976
00:50:53,067 --> 00:50:53,547
Speaker 18: saving it.

977
00:50:53,987 --> 00:50:55,627
Speaker 2: So the ball hits the back of the net. What

978
00:50:55,827 --> 00:51:00,627
Speaker 2: happens to you physically? Like, can you actually remember the moment?

979
00:51:00,627 --> 00:51:03,267
Speaker 2: Because I remember you sprinting off and everybody chasing you.

980
00:51:03,307 --> 00:51:06,027
Speaker 2: But what are the emotions when the ball hits the net?

981
00:51:06,067 --> 00:51:09,427
Speaker 2: And say just significant matches that, well.

982
00:51:10,027 --> 00:51:12,307
Speaker 18: Well, I'm not the fastest, so but I could have

983
00:51:12,427 --> 00:51:14,187
Speaker 18: I could have beat I could have been in Usain

984
00:51:14,347 --> 00:51:17,347
Speaker 18: Bolt that There was so much adrenaline running through me.

985
00:51:17,747 --> 00:51:19,507
Speaker 18: I don't think you've seen Bolt would have kept up

986
00:51:19,507 --> 00:51:19,707
Speaker 18: with me.

987
00:51:20,147 --> 00:51:20,547
Speaker 9: I was.

988
00:51:20,627 --> 00:51:25,307
Speaker 18: It was just like the the kind of the impact

989
00:51:25,307 --> 00:51:26,907
Speaker 18: of that goal when it went in, and the kind

990
00:51:26,947 --> 00:51:29,707
Speaker 18: of roar of the crowd. It was just like unforgettable

991
00:51:30,147 --> 00:51:33,267
Speaker 18: and it's almost like a such a high that is

992
00:51:33,347 --> 00:51:38,827
Speaker 18: just you can't even contemplate how kind of how euphoric

993
00:51:38,907 --> 00:51:40,987
Speaker 18: I felt at that moment. It was like all those

994
00:51:41,067 --> 00:51:43,147
Speaker 18: years of hard work with my dad in the mornings

995
00:51:43,187 --> 00:51:46,787
Speaker 18: and overseas, you know, kind of fighting and scrapping away,

996
00:51:46,827 --> 00:51:49,227
Speaker 18: and then you have this beautiful moment where it was

997
00:51:49,307 --> 00:51:52,627
Speaker 18: just like, I'm going to enjoy this moment, and I did.

998
00:51:52,947 --> 00:51:55,467
Speaker 2: So You're going to halftime, you won this up, and

999
00:51:55,507 --> 00:51:58,667
Speaker 2: then early in the second half, bah Rain are awarded

1000
00:51:58,667 --> 00:52:02,107
Speaker 2: a penalty. Now, if the match finishers won all they

1001
00:52:02,147 --> 00:52:05,387
Speaker 2: go through by virtue of having scored a goal away

1002
00:52:05,387 --> 00:52:09,707
Speaker 2: from the home So is ed Nan the Bahrain player

1003
00:52:09,747 --> 00:52:12,067
Speaker 2: squares up to mark past them for that penalty. What

1004
00:52:12,107 --> 00:52:13,387
Speaker 2: are your emotions at that time?

1005
00:52:14,747 --> 00:52:22,387
Speaker 18: I was actually on the halfway line praying. I was

1006
00:52:22,467 --> 00:52:29,267
Speaker 18: literally praying. I actually was praying. It's one of their

1007
00:52:29,387 --> 00:52:31,867
Speaker 18: moments where it's like, oh, this can't happen to us,

1008
00:52:31,867 --> 00:52:34,507
Speaker 18: and it's so typically sometimes New Zealand where it's like

1009
00:52:34,867 --> 00:52:37,507
Speaker 18: we get so close, but we just don't, you know,

1010
00:52:37,667 --> 00:52:39,867
Speaker 18: get there, and it's like I didn't want that to

1011
00:52:39,907 --> 00:52:42,347
Speaker 18: be that moment for us, Yeah, because we'd work so

1012
00:52:42,467 --> 00:52:45,267
Speaker 18: hard to get there, all of us, you know, individually

1013
00:52:45,307 --> 00:52:48,067
Speaker 18: in our own careers and as a team, and to

1014
00:52:48,187 --> 00:52:50,987
Speaker 18: have that moment because we all knew that there wasn't

1015
00:52:50,987 --> 00:52:52,627
Speaker 18: many goals in that game. It was always going to

1016
00:52:52,627 --> 00:52:54,347
Speaker 18: be a tight game, there was never going to be

1017
00:52:54,547 --> 00:52:59,147
Speaker 18: loads of goals, and so when past the savor, I

1018
00:52:59,147 --> 00:53:02,227
Speaker 18: could have kissed the guy. I was just so it

1019
00:53:02,267 --> 00:53:05,427
Speaker 18: was incredible. It was another moment like my goal, and

1020
00:53:05,467 --> 00:53:08,067
Speaker 18: then that was a kind of iconic moment of the

1021
00:53:08,147 --> 00:53:08,707
Speaker 18: night as.

1022
00:53:08,547 --> 00:53:11,387
Speaker 12: Well, where the where the.

1023
00:53:10,787 --> 00:53:13,227
Speaker 18: Crowd you know, kind of roared la was a goal,

1024
00:53:15,427 --> 00:53:17,667
Speaker 18: So it was like it was just such a magical moment.

1025
00:53:17,707 --> 00:53:19,387
Speaker 18: But I was like, my heart, I was nearly having

1026
00:53:19,387 --> 00:53:19,987
Speaker 18: a heart attack.

1027
00:53:21,507 --> 00:53:22,947
Speaker 2: Well how were you?

1028
00:53:22,987 --> 00:53:23,147
Speaker 18: Then?

1029
00:53:23,187 --> 00:53:25,307
Speaker 2: So he saves it. It's one nil, and but there's

1030
00:53:25,307 --> 00:53:26,747
Speaker 2: still quite a bit of the game to go. As

1031
00:53:26,787 --> 00:53:30,027
Speaker 2: you take past eighty minutes to eighty five minutes to

1032
00:53:30,107 --> 00:53:32,867
Speaker 2: eighty eight minutes, it gets close enough for you to

1033
00:53:32,867 --> 00:53:35,227
Speaker 2: start really believing that you're going to do this thing.

1034
00:53:35,667 --> 00:53:37,827
Speaker 2: What do you remember about the final few moments of

1035
00:53:37,867 --> 00:53:41,187
Speaker 2: the game and whose voices were the loudest ones out there.

1036
00:53:42,507 --> 00:53:44,587
Speaker 18: I think everyone was just screaming at each other kind

1037
00:53:44,587 --> 00:53:46,587
Speaker 18: of to kind of come back and to defend and

1038
00:53:46,587 --> 00:53:48,427
Speaker 18: stuff like that. We got the whole team back and

1039
00:53:48,547 --> 00:53:52,467
Speaker 18: just defended for our as Obviously, when you're up, especially

1040
00:53:52,467 --> 00:53:55,667
Speaker 18: in football, if you're up like that, the team has

1041
00:53:55,747 --> 00:53:58,627
Speaker 18: to kind of press you and try to put pressure

1042
00:53:58,627 --> 00:54:00,827
Speaker 18: on you to try and get that.

1043
00:54:00,787 --> 00:54:01,347
Speaker 2: Goal, you know.

1044
00:54:01,987 --> 00:54:04,587
Speaker 18: So we knew if we were going to concede there,

1045
00:54:04,667 --> 00:54:06,907
Speaker 18: we would have been done for. So we pretty much

1046
00:54:06,947 --> 00:54:09,867
Speaker 18: defended for our lives. And I actually remember the moment

1047
00:54:09,907 --> 00:54:12,707
Speaker 18: where there was an actual free kick and one of

1048
00:54:12,707 --> 00:54:14,707
Speaker 18: the lads got a head onto it and Pastily got

1049
00:54:15,027 --> 00:54:16,987
Speaker 18: the save. It wasn't the head It wasn't great, but

1050
00:54:17,067 --> 00:54:20,227
Speaker 18: it was like, you know, those types of moments in football,

1051
00:54:20,747 --> 00:54:23,947
Speaker 18: they can they can really kind of do a lot

1052
00:54:23,987 --> 00:54:26,987
Speaker 18: of devastation to your team, you know, because it's all

1053
00:54:27,027 --> 00:54:30,787
Speaker 18: you need is one moment. So it was, yeah, it was.

1054
00:54:31,907 --> 00:54:34,507
Speaker 18: It was. There was probably the first time in my

1055
00:54:34,667 --> 00:54:39,707
Speaker 18: whole career where I felt complete, complete nerves of we

1056
00:54:39,747 --> 00:54:42,707
Speaker 18: can't let this slip through our hands because we're so close.

1057
00:54:42,427 --> 00:54:46,947
Speaker 2: Now, and then the final whistle goes euphoria. What happens

1058
00:54:47,027 --> 00:54:48,667
Speaker 2: immediately after the final whistle?

1059
00:54:49,347 --> 00:54:50,267
Speaker 18: For me, it was relief.

1060
00:54:51,067 --> 00:54:52,667
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was.

1061
00:54:52,747 --> 00:54:56,787
Speaker 18: It was just pure relief of kind of the whole

1062
00:54:56,907 --> 00:54:59,747
Speaker 18: kind of build up to that, you know, from from

1063
00:54:59,827 --> 00:55:03,987
Speaker 18: where we started to that build up to that final whistle.

1064
00:55:04,067 --> 00:55:05,627
Speaker 18: I just fell to my knees and I was just

1065
00:55:05,667 --> 00:55:08,067
Speaker 18: so thankful that we you know, we made it.

1066
00:55:08,107 --> 00:55:08,307
Speaker 8: You know.

1067
00:55:09,227 --> 00:55:12,227
Speaker 18: It was just complete relief. And to be fair, I

1068
00:55:12,307 --> 00:55:14,467
Speaker 18: was like all the lads were partying that night. I

1069
00:55:14,587 --> 00:55:17,987
Speaker 18: actually had it early night. I was so exhausted, like mentally.

1070
00:55:18,907 --> 00:55:21,027
Speaker 2: The other story I've heard is about the bus trip

1071
00:55:21,107 --> 00:55:23,707
Speaker 2: back from the stadium back to where you were staying

1072
00:55:23,707 --> 00:55:27,547
Speaker 2: around Oriental Parade and how long that took because there

1073
00:55:27,547 --> 00:55:29,627
Speaker 2: were so many fans out celebrating and what they must

1074
00:55:29,667 --> 00:55:31,867
Speaker 2: have clocked that that was the New Zealand team bus.

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00:55:31,867 --> 00:55:33,547
Speaker 2: What happened along sort of Courtney Place.

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00:55:34,547 --> 00:55:38,467
Speaker 18: Oh, it was packed and we went along the waterway,

1077
00:55:39,027 --> 00:55:42,387
Speaker 18: so you know as you go from sky Stadium or

1078
00:55:42,467 --> 00:55:45,987
Speaker 18: cakedon whatever you call it, along the waterway yep, and

1079
00:55:46,067 --> 00:55:48,507
Speaker 18: now it was packed. There was choc a block and

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00:55:48,547 --> 00:55:50,867
Speaker 18: there was actually there was a guy. There was a

1081
00:55:50,867 --> 00:55:55,427
Speaker 18: guy running after the bus. It was actually behind the

1082
00:55:55,467 --> 00:55:58,307
Speaker 18: bus on the main road, like running after the bus,

1083
00:55:58,787 --> 00:56:00,227
Speaker 18: and he was there for.

1084
00:56:00,227 --> 00:56:01,187
Speaker 2: About ten minutes.

1085
00:56:01,227 --> 00:56:04,187
Speaker 18: I was like, this guy is like proper, like he's

1086
00:56:04,227 --> 00:56:07,387
Speaker 18: done well, it's proper, sweating up as and everyone was

1087
00:56:07,427 --> 00:56:08,947
Speaker 18: at the back of the bars, light banging on the

1088
00:56:09,027 --> 00:56:12,227
Speaker 18: bus light like all celebrated in that and like you

1089
00:56:12,227 --> 00:56:14,627
Speaker 18: can see the pure joy in the in the guy's

1090
00:56:14,667 --> 00:56:18,107
Speaker 18: face and he's out there somewhere in Wellington, you know,

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00:56:18,147 --> 00:56:20,147
Speaker 18: And you always have that memory and I always have

1092
00:56:20,227 --> 00:56:22,267
Speaker 18: that memory of that guy running after the bus.

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00:56:22,347 --> 00:56:23,067
Speaker 12: It was brilliant.

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00:56:23,347 --> 00:56:25,227
Speaker 18: It was just one of those great moments you know,

1095
00:56:26,027 --> 00:56:26,427
Speaker 18: and what.

1096
00:56:26,347 --> 00:56:28,627
Speaker 2: This all led to, of course, was seven months later

1097
00:56:28,947 --> 00:56:31,187
Speaker 2: you went to the World Cup in South Africa, an

1098
00:56:31,267 --> 00:56:36,707
Speaker 2: unbeating campaign with draws against Slovakia, Italy, Paraguay. What a

1099
00:56:36,747 --> 00:56:39,187
Speaker 2: moment in any footballer's career to go to a World Cup.

1100
00:56:39,307 --> 00:56:40,907
Speaker 2: Very few New Zealanders have done it.

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00:56:41,707 --> 00:56:41,907
Speaker 19: You know.

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00:56:41,947 --> 00:56:44,507
Speaker 2: What was it like going to a World Cup?

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00:56:45,907 --> 00:56:48,187
Speaker 18: It was surreal because all I ever wanted to do

1104
00:56:48,227 --> 00:56:50,787
Speaker 18: when I was younger, too, kind of two dreams was

1105
00:56:50,827 --> 00:56:53,067
Speaker 18: to be a kind of a top pro and the

1106
00:56:53,107 --> 00:56:54,907
Speaker 18: other one was to plan a World Cup. And I

1107
00:56:54,907 --> 00:56:57,667
Speaker 18: didn't ever think I'd ever get close to a World Cup.

1108
00:56:58,267 --> 00:57:02,187
Speaker 18: And so to have that dream come to reality, it

1109
00:57:02,387 --> 00:57:05,227
Speaker 18: was kind of surreal because I've as a kid, you

1110
00:57:05,227 --> 00:57:07,147
Speaker 18: you know, you always dream of playing in a World

1111
00:57:07,187 --> 00:57:09,707
Speaker 18: Cup and when you're you know, outside playing with your mates,

1112
00:57:09,747 --> 00:57:12,027
Speaker 18: you know, you pretend it's a World Cup. And then

1113
00:57:12,107 --> 00:57:15,987
Speaker 18: to actually walk out into that stadium, you know, in

1114
00:57:16,027 --> 00:57:18,907
Speaker 18: that first game, Yeah, and that was a kind of

1115
00:57:18,907 --> 00:57:23,107
Speaker 18: another iconic moment with Winnie. But to walk out into

1116
00:57:23,107 --> 00:57:25,827
Speaker 18: that stadium, I was just like, Wow, I'm I'm actually

1117
00:57:25,827 --> 00:57:28,187
Speaker 18: playing in a World Cup here, and it's kind of

1118
00:57:28,907 --> 00:57:32,347
Speaker 18: it's surreal and a lot of these lads. For me,

1119
00:57:32,427 --> 00:57:34,507
Speaker 18: I have no doubt that we'll get to this World Cup.

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00:57:34,827 --> 00:57:37,227
Speaker 18: A lot of these lads will have the have those

1121
00:57:37,267 --> 00:57:40,067
Speaker 18: emotions running through their through their heads. You know that

1122
00:57:41,507 --> 00:57:45,107
Speaker 18: they're potentially going to be in the biggest, biggest tournament

1123
00:57:45,107 --> 00:57:48,267
Speaker 18: in the world. And it's you know, you you really

1124
00:57:48,387 --> 00:57:50,907
Speaker 18: understand that when you go to these World Cups that's

1125
00:57:50,987 --> 00:57:51,747
Speaker 18: so huge.

1126
00:57:52,067 --> 00:57:54,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, it's close enough to touch. For the current,

1127
00:57:55,307 --> 00:57:58,787
Speaker 2: the current crop, the pathway, the road there is slightly

1128
00:57:58,827 --> 00:58:01,227
Speaker 2: different from what you went through. But let's hope they

1129
00:58:01,227 --> 00:58:03,027
Speaker 2: can complete the job and head off to a World

1130
00:58:03,027 --> 00:58:06,027
Speaker 2: Cup next year. Rory love walking down memory lane with you.

1131
00:58:06,067 --> 00:58:09,227
Speaker 2: I get feeling you'll be reminded about that night until

1132
00:58:09,427 --> 00:58:11,827
Speaker 2: the day that you die. Mate. It's something that so

1133
00:58:11,907 --> 00:58:15,187
Speaker 2: many people, me included, just have such fond memories of.

1134
00:58:15,427 --> 00:58:16,987
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us for a bit of.

1135
00:58:16,907 --> 00:58:18,707
Speaker 18: A chat mate, Thank you so much for having me.

1136
00:58:18,787 --> 00:58:21,907
Speaker 2: No, thanks for joining us. Rory Fallon there owner of

1137
00:58:22,347 --> 00:58:24,867
Speaker 2: one of the most iconic moments in our sporting history.

1138
00:58:25,227 --> 00:58:28,547
Speaker 2: November fourteen, two thousand and nine, his goal against Bahrain

1139
00:58:29,187 --> 00:58:31,547
Speaker 2: taking New Zealand to the twenty ten Football World Cup

1140
00:58:31,587 --> 00:58:34,147
Speaker 2: in South Africa. Mark Paston's save, I think is up

1141
00:58:34,187 --> 00:58:36,907
Speaker 2: alongside that early in the second half, the penalty save.

1142
00:58:36,947 --> 00:58:40,147
Speaker 2: In fact, I think the noise for the save was

1143
00:58:40,267 --> 00:58:44,347
Speaker 2: louder than the noise for the goal that night at

1144
00:58:44,507 --> 00:58:48,547
Speaker 2: what was Westpac Stadium then now sky Stadium. She just

1145
00:58:48,667 --> 00:58:53,827
Speaker 2: on sky Stadium. They're actually this weekend tomorrow they're celebrating

1146
00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:57,507
Speaker 2: twenty five years. The stadium opened in January of the

1147
00:58:57,587 --> 00:59:00,747
Speaker 2: year two thousand. But tomorrow morning they're having an open day,

1148
00:59:00,827 --> 00:59:02,507
Speaker 2: or I think it starts at eleven, goes into the

1149
00:59:02,547 --> 00:59:06,107
Speaker 2: afternoon open day at sky Stadium to celebrate twenty five

1150
00:59:06,147 --> 00:59:09,747
Speaker 2: year years of existence. There are plenty of history there

1151
00:59:10,427 --> 00:59:14,427
Speaker 2: over the last twenty five years, and you may well

1152
00:59:14,467 --> 00:59:16,947
Speaker 2: have been part of that history. But I just wonder

1153
00:59:16,987 --> 00:59:22,147
Speaker 2: what the next twenty five years might look like at

1154
00:59:22,147 --> 00:59:27,627
Speaker 2: sky Stadium, and whether that arena is fit for purpose

1155
00:59:28,627 --> 00:59:32,307
Speaker 2: as we look ahead. I mean, hindsight is a wonderful thing,

1156
00:59:32,427 --> 00:59:35,147
Speaker 2: But I think if they had their time again, they

1157
00:59:35,187 --> 00:59:38,987
Speaker 2: would change a few things about that stadium. They'd make

1158
00:59:39,027 --> 00:59:43,707
Speaker 2: it rectangular for starters. I think that is an absolute

1159
00:59:43,827 --> 00:59:47,627
Speaker 2: no brainer. When sky Stadium was being planned, the original

1160
00:59:47,667 --> 00:59:50,707
Speaker 2: plan was that there would be a lot of cricket

1161
00:59:50,707 --> 00:59:54,267
Speaker 2: played there, not just white ball. I remember the discussions

1162
00:59:54,307 --> 00:59:59,827
Speaker 2: around Test matches being played at Sky Stadium at the

1163
00:59:59,827 --> 01:00:04,387
Speaker 2: capton call it whatever you like. That hasn't happened. There's

1164
01:00:04,467 --> 01:00:06,787
Speaker 2: white ball cricket there, but there they've never been a

1165
01:00:06,827 --> 01:00:09,227
Speaker 2: Test match there, and I think that's the right decision

1166
01:00:09,627 --> 01:00:12,507
Speaker 2: because just a couple of kilometers up the road they've

1167
01:00:12,547 --> 01:00:14,347
Speaker 2: got one of the best cricket grounds, not only in

1168
01:00:14,387 --> 01:00:16,787
Speaker 2: New Zealand but in the world, in the Basemin Reserve.

1169
01:00:18,107 --> 01:00:22,947
Speaker 2: So I know the reason they made it circular because

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01:00:22,987 --> 01:00:24,147
Speaker 2: they thought there was going to be a lot of

1171
01:00:24,187 --> 01:00:27,427
Speaker 2: cricket there. That hasn't proven to be the case. And

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Speaker 2: as I say, if they had their time again, they

1173
01:00:29,627 --> 01:00:31,907
Speaker 2: would make it rectangular. They would probably make it a

1174
01:00:31,987 --> 01:00:35,907
Speaker 2: bit smaller too. I think having a rectangular ground would

1175
01:00:36,347 --> 01:00:39,547
Speaker 2: obviously reduce the capacity anyway, unless you're built up. But

1176
01:00:39,627 --> 01:00:42,107
Speaker 2: I think they'd probably reduce the capacity down to around

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Speaker 2: the thirty thousand, and I think they chuck a roof

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Speaker 2: on it. The other thing I'm sure they wouldn't do

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01:00:49,267 --> 01:00:53,067
Speaker 2: is paint every seat yellow. I'm pretty sure if they

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Speaker 2: had their time again, they would not paint every seat

1181
01:00:55,747 --> 01:01:00,547
Speaker 2: yellow because while it looks absolutely tremendous when it's full.

1182
01:01:01,627 --> 01:01:04,907
Speaker 2: When it's not, it stands out like the proverbial all

1183
01:01:04,947 --> 01:01:08,027
Speaker 2: those yellow seats. I think basically what they would do

1184
01:01:08,067 --> 01:01:11,867
Speaker 2: in hindsight is what they're doing in christ Church rectangular

1185
01:01:12,947 --> 01:01:18,867
Speaker 2: thirty thousand capacity roof, and when that stadium opens in

1186
01:01:18,947 --> 01:01:26,987
Speaker 2: christ Church, it'll really open up an interesting conundrum for

1187
01:01:27,027 --> 01:01:31,547
Speaker 2: Sky Stadium in Wellington. That venue has hosted rugby tests

1188
01:01:31,627 --> 01:01:34,747
Speaker 2: every year since it opened in two thousand, more often

1189
01:01:34,747 --> 01:01:38,507
Speaker 2: than not, too in a year. Is it inevitable that

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Speaker 2: that will continue? Christ Church will add itself to the

1191
01:01:42,067 --> 01:01:45,707
Speaker 2: list of potential all Blacks test venues alongside Eden Park,

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01:01:46,307 --> 01:01:48,427
Speaker 2: Forsyth Bar Stadium in Dunedin, which has got a few

1193
01:01:48,427 --> 01:01:51,667
Speaker 2: test matches in recent years, Hamilton, which I know will

1194
01:01:51,667 --> 01:01:55,147
Speaker 2: be aggressive and trying to attract all Blacks test matches,

1195
01:01:56,227 --> 01:01:59,347
Speaker 2: and others as well. I'm sure that there'll be renewed

1196
01:01:59,387 --> 01:02:01,347
Speaker 2: pictures for some of the you know, some of the

1197
01:02:01,387 --> 01:02:03,307
Speaker 2: I guess the lesser test matches. You're never gonna have

1198
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Speaker 2: a Bledderlow Cup match at these grants. But the likes

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Speaker 2: of Nelson new Plymouth, who knows you know, they'll put

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01:02:10,267 --> 01:02:13,707
Speaker 2: their hat in the ring and you could argue Eton Park,

1201
01:02:15,107 --> 01:02:17,347
Speaker 2: the new christ jur Stadium, Deneed and even Hamilton you

1202
01:02:17,347 --> 01:02:22,307
Speaker 2: could argue that they're all better venues in some way

1203
01:02:22,507 --> 01:02:25,907
Speaker 2: than sky Stadium is. I mean, history is one thing,

1204
01:02:26,667 --> 01:02:29,587
Speaker 2: of course, and there is so much history on that

1205
01:02:29,667 --> 01:02:33,267
Speaker 2: patch of grass alongside the railway station in Wellington in

1206
01:02:33,267 --> 01:02:37,387
Speaker 2: the last quarter century. But time moves on. Is sky

1207
01:02:37,547 --> 01:02:42,547
Speaker 2: Stadium equipped to keep up? Became for your thoughts oh

1208
01:02:42,587 --> 01:02:45,067
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten, eight nine, two, nine to

1209
01:02:45,067 --> 01:02:47,667
Speaker 2: two on text any particularly special memories as well as

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Speaker 2: sky Stadium if you want to share those with us.

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Speaker 2: Tobby Just on twenty eight Away from Two Sky Stadium

1233
01:04:01,267 --> 01:04:04,467
Speaker 2: celebrates twenty five years of existence, looking ahead to see

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Speaker 2: what the next twenty five might look like.

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Speaker 19: Hello, Johny, only twenty five years. Well, I remember when

1236
01:04:10,747 --> 01:04:14,347
Speaker 19: the Seven's kicked off in two thousand seven?

1237
01:04:14,587 --> 01:04:18,067
Speaker 2: Jo does the sevens? John? Remember you couldn't get a ticket, mate?

1238
01:04:18,067 --> 01:04:21,507
Speaker 2: Remember they put tickets on sale and three or four

1239
01:04:21,507 --> 01:04:23,147
Speaker 2: minutes later they were completely sold out.

1240
01:04:23,227 --> 01:04:25,507
Speaker 12: Incredible, incredible, right.

1241
01:04:25,507 --> 01:04:28,027
Speaker 19: I think when it first opened everyone was like, Wow,

1242
01:04:28,147 --> 01:04:31,067
Speaker 19: a brand new stadium, beautiful, is a bit better than

1243
01:04:31,107 --> 01:04:33,107
Speaker 19: Athletic Park. You know when that one would have come

1244
01:04:33,187 --> 01:04:36,107
Speaker 19: through and you're getting at the top stand. I remember that,

1245
01:04:37,147 --> 01:04:39,627
Speaker 19: But you know, twenty five years on and you've said

1246
01:04:39,667 --> 01:04:42,667
Speaker 19: it now, you know if they if they were to

1247
01:04:42,667 --> 01:04:45,147
Speaker 19: build a new stadium, it would be rectangle and it

1248
01:04:45,187 --> 01:04:47,987
Speaker 19: would have a roof because it's working for the rest

1249
01:04:47,987 --> 01:04:54,107
Speaker 19: of the country. But Eden Park isn't as a dilemma

1250
01:04:54,187 --> 01:04:56,987
Speaker 19: this year too, I think Wayne Brown and co. Deciding

1251
01:04:56,987 --> 01:04:59,987
Speaker 19: whether they're gonna get rid of that one and build

1252
01:04:59,987 --> 01:05:02,547
Speaker 19: a new one in downtown or Yeah.

1253
01:05:02,347 --> 01:05:04,867
Speaker 2: It seems like that ongoing discussion up in Auckland and

1254
01:05:05,827 --> 01:05:08,747
Speaker 2: for gotten based in Wellington, So I'm not right across

1255
01:05:08,787 --> 01:05:10,947
Speaker 2: and I've obviously taken a keen interest in what's going

1256
01:05:10,947 --> 01:05:12,267
Speaker 2: on up there, but it just seems like there's a

1257
01:05:12,307 --> 01:05:14,787
Speaker 2: lot of talking and not a heck of a lot

1258
01:05:14,787 --> 01:05:18,547
Speaker 2: of action around around that. I know Bill Foley, who

1259
01:05:18,547 --> 01:05:21,507
Speaker 2: owns Salkland FC, is keen on building a stadium at

1260
01:05:21,587 --> 01:05:24,627
Speaker 2: Western Springs. There's talk of the waterfronts. I don't even

1261
01:05:24,627 --> 01:05:27,147
Speaker 2: know what the latest is on that, John. But yeah,

1262
01:05:27,627 --> 01:05:29,707
Speaker 2: So if there was to be a new stadium, a

1263
01:05:29,707 --> 01:05:33,147
Speaker 2: waterfront stadium built in Auckland, then what would that mean

1264
01:05:33,187 --> 01:05:33,827
Speaker 2: for Eden Park?

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01:05:35,187 --> 01:05:39,267
Speaker 19: Well, I think Eden Park would be gone. That's probably

1266
01:05:39,627 --> 01:05:43,747
Speaker 19: tendet into a retirement home or something will go their

1267
01:05:43,747 --> 01:05:47,187
Speaker 19: homes kind of order something like that. I think that

1268
01:05:47,307 --> 01:05:49,947
Speaker 19: downtown stadium is about right now. They want to build

1269
01:05:49,947 --> 01:05:52,867
Speaker 19: a big precinct. People don't know Ulten that. Well, the

1270
01:05:52,907 --> 01:05:56,627
Speaker 19: old train station which is near britham Art is going

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Speaker 19: to be transformed into the precinct. So it's going to

1272
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Speaker 19: have a fifty five thousand six stadium right hear, And

1273
01:06:04,467 --> 01:06:06,867
Speaker 19: that's the plans of all the super teams are going

1274
01:06:06,907 --> 01:06:10,987
Speaker 19: to play, the football team and the regular league team.

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01:06:11,707 --> 01:06:14,427
Speaker 19: I don't think there will be cricket. So the idea

1276
01:06:14,467 --> 01:06:17,307
Speaker 19: is that the cricket ground moves to Victoria Park. You

1277
01:06:17,347 --> 01:06:17,907
Speaker 19: know what that is?

1278
01:06:19,467 --> 01:06:19,667
Speaker 8: I do?

1279
01:06:19,827 --> 01:06:20,747
Speaker 2: I know exactly where it.

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Speaker 19: Is, yep. And so they're going to make it like

1281
01:06:24,747 --> 01:06:26,387
Speaker 19: what it's taking Christ she exte.

1282
01:06:26,747 --> 01:06:31,387
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I've seen that. I've seen some some preliminary

1283
01:06:31,427 --> 01:06:35,667
Speaker 2: sketches of that of how that area at at Victoria

1284
01:06:35,747 --> 01:06:39,347
Speaker 2: Park there could could house an international cricket ground like

1285
01:06:39,347 --> 01:06:42,267
Speaker 2: Hagle Oval. I've seen this sort of a superimposed you know,

1286
01:06:43,187 --> 01:06:45,947
Speaker 2: the area that would be needed, and it's doable as

1287
01:06:45,987 --> 01:06:48,507
Speaker 2: as I understand it. It just needs somebody to to have

1288
01:06:48,547 --> 01:06:49,787
Speaker 2: the wherewithal to push go on it.

1289
01:06:49,827 --> 01:06:51,027
Speaker 12: I guess yeah.

1290
01:06:51,107 --> 01:06:53,307
Speaker 19: And the problem is there's a big motorway that goes

1291
01:06:53,347 --> 01:06:53,707
Speaker 19: over it.

1292
01:06:54,147 --> 01:07:01,027
Speaker 2: There is that, right, But.

1293
01:07:03,907 --> 01:07:08,107
Speaker 19: Often I can't speak. I mean you commentate the game.

1294
01:07:08,787 --> 01:07:11,187
Speaker 19: I mean, can they go all the way? Can they

1295
01:07:11,227 --> 01:07:11,507
Speaker 19: do it?

1296
01:07:11,987 --> 01:07:12,187
Speaker 6: Well?

1297
01:07:12,227 --> 01:07:14,107
Speaker 2: I don't see any reason now why they can't.

1298
01:07:14,187 --> 01:07:14,427
Speaker 5: John.

1299
01:07:14,507 --> 01:07:18,627
Speaker 2: That's they've got me convinced, because the way it works,

1300
01:07:18,627 --> 01:07:20,707
Speaker 2: as you know, is that there's a top six. If

1301
01:07:20,707 --> 01:07:23,907
Speaker 2: you're in the top two, which they will be you

1302
01:07:24,227 --> 01:07:27,187
Speaker 2: missed the first round of knockout three plus six, four

1303
01:07:27,227 --> 01:07:29,747
Speaker 2: plus five, then you play a home and away semi

1304
01:07:29,747 --> 01:07:32,787
Speaker 2: final against whoever comes through, and then you host a

1305
01:07:32,787 --> 01:07:34,947
Speaker 2: one old final if you finish top. I just don't

1306
01:07:34,987 --> 01:07:38,787
Speaker 2: see anybody beating Auckland at home. They just seem imperious

1307
01:07:38,787 --> 01:07:39,187
Speaker 2: at home.

1308
01:07:39,947 --> 01:07:42,107
Speaker 19: Let's say they make the final, where will the final be?

1309
01:07:42,507 --> 01:07:46,067
Speaker 2: That's another very good question. I think they would want

1310
01:07:46,107 --> 01:07:50,707
Speaker 2: it at Ego Media, at Mount Smart because the League

1311
01:07:50,747 --> 01:07:54,947
Speaker 2: itself organizes the finals matches. I'm almost certain they would

1312
01:07:54,947 --> 01:07:56,947
Speaker 2: want it at Eden Park because they can sell more

1313
01:07:56,947 --> 01:07:59,907
Speaker 2: tickets and make more money. The club doesn't make any

1314
01:07:59,947 --> 01:08:01,787
Speaker 2: money out of the finals. That's the oddity of the

1315
01:08:01,827 --> 01:08:04,107
Speaker 2: A League. Even if they you know, even if they

1316
01:08:04,107 --> 01:08:06,427
Speaker 2: host the final, they don't get any of the ticket revenue.

1317
01:08:06,587 --> 01:08:09,827
Speaker 2: So so you know, the A League would want it

1318
01:08:09,867 --> 01:08:12,587
Speaker 2: somewhere bigger. I'm almost certain aucklandlefts would want to play

1319
01:08:12,587 --> 01:08:15,227
Speaker 2: it what has become a fortress for them at go Media.

1320
01:08:16,147 --> 01:08:18,707
Speaker 19: Well, I think this year is any one team in Auckland,

1321
01:08:18,747 --> 01:08:21,067
Speaker 19: there's Ukland. I think the Blues are pretty much gone

1322
01:08:21,387 --> 01:08:23,387
Speaker 19: and the Warriors already saying signs.

1323
01:08:24,787 --> 01:08:28,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. John. I'm not willing to

1324
01:08:28,627 --> 01:08:30,627
Speaker 2: write the Blues off just yet. We're only four games,

1325
01:08:30,627 --> 01:08:33,587
Speaker 2: and then the Warriors only had one game by here, John,

1326
01:08:33,827 --> 01:08:36,187
Speaker 2: good to chat to you mate, Thanks indeed, Jason. Twenty

1327
01:08:36,187 --> 01:08:40,547
Speaker 2: fifteen Cricket World Cup New Zealand v England Soudi seven

1328
01:08:40,627 --> 01:08:45,747
Speaker 2: for thirty three and then Brendan McCallum's amazing batting game

1329
01:08:45,787 --> 01:08:49,907
Speaker 2: over by halftime. Also the hurricanes first and only Super

1330
01:08:49,947 --> 01:08:54,707
Speaker 2: Rugby Championship. Thanks Janis, Yeah, I was. I was at

1331
01:08:54,707 --> 01:08:58,027
Speaker 2: both of those games that Brendan McCullum, that Tim Soudi

1332
01:08:58,067 --> 01:09:02,187
Speaker 2: Brendan mccllum game against England. I know we've talked about

1333
01:09:02,187 --> 01:09:04,507
Speaker 2: this on the show before, but the classic part of

1334
01:09:04,547 --> 01:09:10,147
Speaker 2: that was that England wore out so quickly that New

1335
01:09:10,267 --> 01:09:14,507
Speaker 2: Zealand came into bat before the scheduled innings break. Normally,

1336
01:09:14,547 --> 01:09:16,387
Speaker 2: in a fifty over game, you know, one team bats,

1337
01:09:16,427 --> 01:09:17,987
Speaker 2: you have the forty minute break, and then the other

1338
01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:21,507
Speaker 2: team bats. But because England wore out so quickly, New

1339
01:09:21,587 --> 01:09:24,267
Speaker 2: Zealand came out to bout after just ten minutes, and

1340
01:09:24,627 --> 01:09:28,947
Speaker 2: because Brenda McCullum went absolutely bonkers and just started smashing it.

1341
01:09:28,947 --> 01:09:31,787
Speaker 2: We're only chasing about one twenty. We got to within

1342
01:09:31,867 --> 01:09:35,027
Speaker 2: ten runs of the winning target and they broke for dinner.

1343
01:09:35,307 --> 01:09:37,307
Speaker 2: It was a day night match. I remember at the

1344
01:09:37,347 --> 01:09:39,387
Speaker 2: time thinking this is just so crazy. Just let them

1345
01:09:39,427 --> 01:09:41,427
Speaker 2: bat for another ten runs and we can all go home.

1346
01:09:41,747 --> 01:09:46,387
Speaker 2: But they would have had so much food from the caterers,

1347
01:09:47,107 --> 01:09:49,307
Speaker 2: you know, all there ready for you know, ready for

1348
01:09:49,507 --> 01:09:52,267
Speaker 2: the dinner break that they had. They had to have

1349
01:09:52,307 --> 01:09:53,627
Speaker 2: the break, so I think could get rid of all

1350
01:09:53,627 --> 01:09:56,587
Speaker 2: the food as it happened, we had dinner, they came

1351
01:09:56,587 --> 01:09:58,427
Speaker 2: back out, got the ten runs pretty quickly, and I

1352
01:09:58,427 --> 01:10:00,067
Speaker 2: don't think they even turned the lights on that night

1353
01:10:00,107 --> 01:10:05,067
Speaker 2: at Skystadium. Yeah, I remember that day though. It was

1354
01:10:05,067 --> 01:10:07,547
Speaker 2: a cracker Andrew to change tech until a bit of

1355
01:10:07,587 --> 01:10:08,267
Speaker 2: Super Rugby.

1356
01:10:09,227 --> 01:10:09,867
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1357
01:10:11,547 --> 01:10:20,707
Speaker 20: About the coaches in rugby now, I've played center forward,

1358
01:10:22,667 --> 01:10:30,267
Speaker 20: half back and might win. Now, the coaches now, especially now,

1359
01:10:31,027 --> 01:10:43,427
Speaker 20: need incredible ability to watch each player because fatigue. Now,

1360
01:10:43,467 --> 01:10:51,587
Speaker 20: fatigue is your biggest danger in the game, and they've

1361
01:10:51,667 --> 01:10:58,347
Speaker 20: gotta they've actually gotta spot it before it happens, literally

1362
01:10:58,387 --> 01:11:06,907
Speaker 20: because it can be dangerous and have a replacement automatically literally,

1363
01:11:07,027 --> 01:11:10,707
Speaker 20: have all the replacement after half time.

1364
01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:14,467
Speaker 2: Well, Andrew, they do monitor it because, as I'm sure

1365
01:11:14,507 --> 01:11:17,987
Speaker 2: you know, all of the players where GPS meeters now,

1366
01:11:18,067 --> 01:11:21,267
Speaker 2: so in real time up in the box, yeah, they do. Yeah,

1367
01:11:21,347 --> 01:11:23,987
Speaker 2: up in the box they can tell okay, yeah that

1368
01:11:24,147 --> 01:11:27,627
Speaker 2: like there he's run eleven k so far, and it's

1369
01:11:27,827 --> 01:11:31,427
Speaker 2: very it's really specific. They, as I say, in real time,

1370
01:11:31,827 --> 01:11:34,987
Speaker 2: they can say and see how much at least sort

1371
01:11:34,987 --> 01:11:38,227
Speaker 2: of aerobically anyway, how much running each player is done,

1372
01:11:38,267 --> 01:11:42,347
Speaker 2: and then they can make their replacement decisions accordingly.

1373
01:11:42,547 --> 01:11:52,307
Speaker 20: That's excellent, brilliant, absolutely brilliant, because fatigue is extreme danger.

1374
01:11:53,867 --> 01:11:56,387
Speaker 2: Yep, they're all over at Andrew. They are all over it, mate,

1375
01:11:56,387 --> 01:11:58,427
Speaker 2: and it's some yeah like it back back in the day.

1376
01:11:58,507 --> 01:12:01,507
Speaker 2: As we say, none of that. You just had a guess, Well,

1377
01:12:01,507 --> 01:12:04,067
Speaker 2: that guy looks like he's that guy looks like he's

1378
01:12:04,107 --> 01:12:05,827
Speaker 2: a bit stuffed. We better get him off. But of

1379
01:12:05,827 --> 01:12:09,347
Speaker 2: course say you couldn't. Then it was only only injury replacements.

1380
01:12:09,387 --> 01:12:12,067
Speaker 2: Thanks for me to call Andrew just on Skystadium. Wanted

1381
01:12:12,067 --> 01:12:13,627
Speaker 2: to play a couple of bits of audio for you

1382
01:12:14,027 --> 01:12:17,307
Speaker 2: of a couple of my favorite moments, Dan Carter's test

1383
01:12:18,067 --> 01:12:20,787
Speaker 2: All Blacks lines two thousand and five. I remember that

1384
01:12:20,907 --> 01:12:24,187
Speaker 2: so clearly because I paid well over the odds for

1385
01:12:24,267 --> 01:12:26,547
Speaker 2: a couple of tickets on trade Me for me and

1386
01:12:26,587 --> 01:12:29,947
Speaker 2: my father in law. I won't even tell you how

1387
01:12:30,027 --> 01:12:31,987
Speaker 2: much I paid for them, but it was worth it

1388
01:12:32,027 --> 01:12:32,787
Speaker 2: to watch this bloke.

1389
01:12:33,027 --> 01:12:36,627
Speaker 16: Yes, soyola, soyola, looking outside them down on the outside.

1390
01:12:36,707 --> 01:12:38,467
Speaker 2: Oh, kick and chase the karter?

1391
01:12:38,667 --> 01:12:39,307
Speaker 12: Is it he's done?

1392
01:12:39,747 --> 01:12:40,067
Speaker 16: Try?

1393
01:12:40,587 --> 01:12:41,947
Speaker 5: How is Daniel Carter.

1394
01:12:41,747 --> 01:12:42,707
Speaker 16: Out on the right wing?

1395
01:12:43,147 --> 01:12:45,507
Speaker 2: The kick and chase the dropper and the bounce goes

1396
01:12:45,547 --> 01:12:46,427
Speaker 2: his way.

1397
01:12:46,667 --> 01:12:52,587
Speaker 16: Almost beautiful try, consummate skill, consummate cooled.

1398
01:12:52,787 --> 01:12:55,147
Speaker 2: Dan Carter thirty three points in that Test match in

1399
01:12:55,147 --> 01:12:58,267
Speaker 2: two thousand and five, the very first Test match though

1400
01:12:59,067 --> 01:13:03,187
Speaker 2: at that venue, didn't end the way we wanted Heels.

1401
01:13:03,787 --> 01:13:07,547
Speaker 16: I want to be captain, kickstor the post and over

1402
01:13:08,507 --> 01:13:11,987
Speaker 16: dog Wallabies have wanted us full time dog Wallaby's hold

1403
01:13:12,027 --> 01:13:14,827
Speaker 16: but let us no cup. They hold a chance of

1404
01:13:14,947 --> 01:13:20,867
Speaker 16: the try nations. The New Zealanders stand like statues, absolutely distraught.

1405
01:13:21,187 --> 01:13:25,147
Speaker 16: The Wallabies surround that captain. They have stolen this in

1406
01:13:25,187 --> 01:13:29,907
Speaker 16: the forty forty five minute of the game by twenty four.

1407
01:13:29,707 --> 01:13:30,627
Speaker 12: To twenty three.

1408
01:13:30,907 --> 01:13:34,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there that day too, the very first

1409
01:13:34,347 --> 01:13:37,587
Speaker 2: Test match. Let us look up afternoon game John Eels

1410
01:13:38,347 --> 01:13:42,627
Speaker 2: kicking the winning penalty to give Australia the win. And

1411
01:13:42,747 --> 01:13:46,147
Speaker 2: isn't it great to hear the dulcet tones. Of the

1412
01:13:46,187 --> 01:13:49,707
Speaker 2: best there ever was the late great Graham Moody on

1413
01:13:49,787 --> 01:13:52,347
Speaker 2: commentary there eighteen away from two news talks there they

1414
01:13:52,387 --> 01:13:55,827
Speaker 2: were across the Tasman with our Australian correspondent and Peacock

1415
01:13:55,907 --> 01:13:56,427
Speaker 2: right after this.

1416
01:13:57,467 --> 01:14:00,387
Speaker 1: Would you be the TMO have your say on eight

1417
01:14:00,467 --> 01:14:05,547
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eighty Weekends Sport with Jason Hin and GJ. Gunnerholmes.

1418
01:14:05,707 --> 01:14:09,507
Speaker 1: New Zealand's was trusted Owen Builder News Talks one.

1419
01:14:10,467 --> 01:14:13,867
Speaker 2: Let's get you across the Tasman to discuss Australian sporting

1420
01:14:13,867 --> 01:14:16,987
Speaker 2: issues with our regular correspondent Adam Peacock. Adam, thanks for

1421
01:14:17,027 --> 01:14:21,467
Speaker 2: joining us. Actually, can we start with meteorological issues? How

1422
01:14:21,547 --> 01:14:24,827
Speaker 2: much impact has Cyclone Alfred had on sport in the

1423
01:14:24,867 --> 01:14:25,747
Speaker 2: state of Queensland.

1424
01:14:26,747 --> 01:14:29,707
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, it's wiped out sport up there and probably

1425
01:14:29,747 --> 01:14:32,947
Speaker 14: will for next week as well in terms of saying

1426
01:14:33,067 --> 01:14:35,587
Speaker 14: not so much the professional sphere, but it's also wiped out.

1427
01:14:35,427 --> 01:14:35,867
Speaker 8: A bit of that.

1428
01:14:35,907 --> 01:14:37,587
Speaker 14: There was meant to be a couple of AFL games

1429
01:14:37,667 --> 01:14:40,867
Speaker 14: up there on the Gold Coast and Brisbane to open

1430
01:14:40,907 --> 01:14:44,307
Speaker 14: their season this year. That's been wiped away and they've

1431
01:14:44,347 --> 01:14:48,067
Speaker 14: had to call those off. Conversely, the NRL basically got

1432
01:14:48,107 --> 01:14:51,627
Speaker 14: the Dolphins, who are both near Brisbane, to fly down

1433
01:14:51,667 --> 01:14:54,067
Speaker 14: to Sydney and they reversed the fixture with South Sydney,

1434
01:14:54,107 --> 01:14:57,307
Speaker 14: which was pretty nimble thinking and I think pretty much

1435
01:14:57,307 --> 01:14:59,387
Speaker 14: everyone agreed with it, apart from a few and a

1436
01:14:59,387 --> 01:15:01,387
Speaker 14: couple of players stayed back in Brisbane. Which is fair

1437
01:15:01,467 --> 01:15:04,667
Speaker 14: enough to tender matters back there because it's hitting as

1438
01:15:04,707 --> 01:15:05,147
Speaker 14: we speak.

1439
01:15:05,227 --> 01:15:07,027
Speaker 19: Basically, it's crossed coast.

1440
01:15:06,747 --> 01:15:10,867
Speaker 14: This morning and it's there. But yeah, racing, local, football, local,

1441
01:15:10,907 --> 01:15:14,507
Speaker 14: everything is called off and it's a state of emergency

1442
01:15:14,507 --> 01:15:16,747
Speaker 14: out there, so we'll wait and see how badly it

1443
01:15:16,787 --> 01:15:19,227
Speaker 14: gets flat. I've got a bad feeling that it could

1444
01:15:19,227 --> 01:15:22,867
Speaker 14: cop a bit to Brisbane and the surrounding areas. So yes,

1445
01:15:22,867 --> 01:15:23,907
Speaker 14: sport takes a back seat.

1446
01:15:24,547 --> 01:15:27,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right. There has been some sport though over

1447
01:15:27,787 --> 01:15:29,307
Speaker 2: the last little while. In fact, the start of the

1448
01:15:29,347 --> 01:15:33,747
Speaker 2: AFL season. What happens here there's an opening round before

1449
01:15:33,867 --> 01:15:34,627
Speaker 2: round one.

1450
01:15:34,507 --> 01:15:37,947
Speaker 21: Is that right, Yeah, so they try to get a

1451
01:15:37,987 --> 01:15:38,347
Speaker 21: bit clever.

1452
01:15:38,427 --> 01:15:42,627
Speaker 14: The AFL under a Week zero basically, and then there's

1453
01:15:42,667 --> 01:15:46,187
Speaker 14: the opening round doown in Melbourne. I don't know why,

1454
01:15:47,027 --> 01:15:49,827
Speaker 14: I'm trying to scratch my head. I'm thinking that maybe

1455
01:15:50,227 --> 01:15:52,787
Speaker 14: because the week zero games are two games in Sydney,

1456
01:15:52,787 --> 01:15:57,787
Speaker 14: two games in Brisbane or in Southeast Gleeensland. So I

1457
01:15:57,787 --> 01:16:00,427
Speaker 14: had the Swans get beaten by Hawthorne last night, the

1458
01:16:00,547 --> 01:16:03,547
Speaker 14: SCG forty thousand, great crowd and everything, but then next

1459
01:16:03,547 --> 01:16:05,347
Speaker 14: week they have all the games for the rest of

1460
01:16:05,347 --> 01:16:09,147
Speaker 14: the country. And include you know, Melbourne gets activated, but

1461
01:16:09,187 --> 01:16:12,067
Speaker 14: it's grand pre weekend down mere clon pre So I

1462
01:16:12,107 --> 01:16:13,747
Speaker 14: don't know why they've done this schedule.

1463
01:16:13,787 --> 01:16:14,987
Speaker 19: It seems a bit strange.

1464
01:16:14,987 --> 01:16:19,667
Speaker 14: Why don't you just back yourself and start normally, because

1465
01:16:20,027 --> 01:16:22,307
Speaker 14: I think they're now looking at it like, oh NRL

1466
01:16:22,387 --> 01:16:24,307
Speaker 14: does this, They go to Vegas and have a big

1467
01:16:24,307 --> 01:16:26,267
Speaker 14: thing and blah blah blah, we've got to do something different.

1468
01:16:26,587 --> 01:16:27,307
Speaker 19: It'd be weird.

1469
01:16:27,467 --> 01:16:30,827
Speaker 14: Just look after yourself. So yeah, anyway, seasons underway.

1470
01:16:30,947 --> 01:16:33,547
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll keep tabs on of across the next few months,

1471
01:16:33,547 --> 01:16:36,347
Speaker 2: as we will the NRL season, which is also underway,

1472
01:16:36,347 --> 01:16:39,147
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, started in Vegas last weekend. The Warriors

1473
01:16:39,147 --> 01:16:40,947
Speaker 2: didn't have much of a time there on the field anyway.

1474
01:16:40,947 --> 01:16:42,187
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about what they got up to off

1475
01:16:42,187 --> 01:16:47,467
Speaker 2: the field, but the season is underway with a couple

1476
01:16:47,507 --> 01:16:50,307
Speaker 2: of close contests last night pretty low scoring as well

1477
01:16:50,787 --> 01:16:53,987
Speaker 2: in the West Tiger's Night's game and the rabbit Oos Dolphins.

1478
01:16:54,547 --> 01:16:56,227
Speaker 14: Yeah, there was a bit of weather around in Sydney

1479
01:16:56,267 --> 01:16:59,227
Speaker 14: last night, so, you know, first first proper game of

1480
01:16:59,267 --> 01:17:02,867
Speaker 14: the season, wet ball. That makes things a bit difficult,

1481
01:17:02,947 --> 01:17:05,147
Speaker 14: be totally fluid in attacks. They have to rely on

1482
01:17:05,147 --> 01:17:07,667
Speaker 14: the other things that coach is love relying on, like

1483
01:17:07,747 --> 01:17:12,027
Speaker 14: resilience and effort and all that. Benji Marshall's filthy that

1484
01:17:12,067 --> 01:17:13,947
Speaker 14: West Tiger's let ones that last night. I think that

1485
01:17:14,107 --> 01:17:16,307
Speaker 14: was a real game to be game to take for

1486
01:17:16,667 --> 01:17:18,827
Speaker 14: the Tigers who are trying to rebuild and get away

1487
01:17:18,827 --> 01:17:21,787
Speaker 14: from the wooden spoon. I don't think Newcastle are going

1488
01:17:21,827 --> 01:17:24,547
Speaker 14: to set the world on fire either, So those two

1489
01:17:24,667 --> 01:17:27,907
Speaker 14: I'm not sure their final aspirens. But there two sides

1490
01:17:27,907 --> 01:17:30,667
Speaker 14: that wanted to win last night. Newcastle didn't and South

1491
01:17:31,267 --> 01:17:33,547
Speaker 14: without a number of their stars including Cam Murray and

1492
01:17:33,587 --> 01:17:36,387
Speaker 14: La Tromp Mitchell got it done over the depleted as

1493
01:17:36,467 --> 01:17:39,907
Speaker 14: mentioned Dolphins. But yeah, the weather played a part in

1494
01:17:39,947 --> 01:17:40,667
Speaker 14: all that last night.

1495
01:17:40,867 --> 01:17:42,507
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the chances of your seat

1496
01:17:42,507 --> 01:17:43,867
Speaker 2: Eagles in twenty twenty five?

1497
01:17:44,947 --> 01:17:45,507
Speaker 9: Pretty good.

1498
01:17:45,987 --> 01:17:50,867
Speaker 14: I'm pretty happy with the addition of Jazz Tavanga. Actually,

1499
01:17:50,947 --> 01:17:53,667
Speaker 14: from what he's a player that we need. Our fourd

1500
01:17:53,707 --> 01:17:56,867
Speaker 14: pack isn't certainly as good as our back line. Mind you,

1501
01:17:56,907 --> 01:17:59,827
Speaker 14: our back line is pretty hot, so that's been the

1502
01:17:59,867 --> 01:18:02,547
Speaker 14: issue for Manly that the ability to stop other teams

1503
01:18:02,547 --> 01:18:04,987
Speaker 14: getting on a roll. So Chazz hopefully comes in. I

1504
01:18:05,027 --> 01:18:07,907
Speaker 14: saw he's listed as number nine the hooker tonight. I'm

1505
01:18:07,947 --> 01:18:11,707
Speaker 14: not sure he's going to actually play there. But yeah,

1506
01:18:12,267 --> 01:18:14,027
Speaker 14: I still don't think we have enough depth. I think

1507
01:18:14,547 --> 01:18:16,827
Speaker 14: landing around five to eight on the ladder would be

1508
01:18:17,387 --> 01:18:20,067
Speaker 14: about the ideal situation. From the early this season, does it.

1509
01:18:20,067 --> 01:18:22,267
Speaker 2: Feel like the Storm the Panthers and then a big

1510
01:18:22,307 --> 01:18:23,907
Speaker 2: gap to the rest. Is that still the case?

1511
01:18:24,667 --> 01:18:27,067
Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, everyone's tipping the Storm, like bigging up the

1512
01:18:27,107 --> 01:18:30,267
Speaker 14: Storm big. Basically, they haven't lost, they've gained a bit,

1513
01:18:30,507 --> 01:18:32,627
Speaker 14: and they get all their good players and they kept fit.

1514
01:18:32,667 --> 01:18:36,387
Speaker 14: They're going to be like a real hard, hard team

1515
01:18:36,427 --> 01:18:38,667
Speaker 14: to stop. And I think people looking at Penrith go

1516
01:18:38,707 --> 01:18:40,987
Speaker 14: and eventually it's going to have to tell losing players

1517
01:18:41,027 --> 01:18:44,707
Speaker 14: being chipped away the year after year. So yeah, I

1518
01:18:44,747 --> 01:18:48,227
Speaker 14: think Storm and then a pack including Penrith. But around

1519
01:18:48,267 --> 01:18:51,427
Speaker 14: that it's there for some team to jump out like

1520
01:18:51,467 --> 01:18:54,587
Speaker 14: a Bulldogs last season. They could improve again this season.

1521
01:18:54,627 --> 01:18:57,867
Speaker 14: Not sure. So yeah, it's pretty open underneath that, but

1522
01:18:57,907 --> 01:18:59,947
Speaker 14: everyone's pretty keen on the Storm, all right.

1523
01:19:00,187 --> 01:19:02,907
Speaker 2: A couple of other metters to discuss Steve Smith after

1524
01:19:03,027 --> 01:19:06,027
Speaker 2: Australia's exit from the Champions Trophy at the semi final

1525
01:19:06,067 --> 01:19:09,347
Speaker 2: stage early this week has announced his retirement from one

1526
01:19:09,427 --> 01:19:12,347
Speaker 2: day international cricket. He'll still play T twenty and Test matches.

1527
01:19:12,507 --> 01:19:16,507
Speaker 2: Any surprise here, a little.

1528
01:19:16,227 --> 01:19:16,867
Speaker 8: Bit of a surprise.

1529
01:19:16,907 --> 01:19:18,547
Speaker 14: It was so abrupt, But when you look at it

1530
01:19:18,587 --> 01:19:20,267
Speaker 14: and think, oh, it's a long way to the twenty

1531
01:19:20,307 --> 01:19:22,267
Speaker 14: twenty seven World Cup and he wants to go and

1532
01:19:22,267 --> 01:19:29,707
Speaker 14: play franchise franchise cricket everywhere. Yeah, so it makes sense

1533
01:19:29,707 --> 01:19:31,227
Speaker 14: when you look at it like that. It just happened

1534
01:19:31,227 --> 01:19:33,667
Speaker 14: so quickly, twenty four hours after the Champions Trophy loss.

1535
01:19:33,667 --> 01:19:36,107
Speaker 14: But yeah, amazing career. Two World Cup wins.

1536
01:19:36,147 --> 01:19:38,347
Speaker 2: Not bad, not bad indeed. And just before you go,

1537
01:19:38,467 --> 01:19:40,547
Speaker 2: I saw some foota John line last night of a

1538
01:19:40,627 --> 01:19:43,867
Speaker 2: National Premier League football game. This is obviously not the

1539
01:19:43,907 --> 01:19:46,347
Speaker 2: A League, but the one you know, all the States

1540
01:19:46,347 --> 01:19:48,987
Speaker 2: have their own NPL or National Premier League, and it

1541
01:19:49,027 --> 01:19:52,067
Speaker 2: was from a Preston Lions game against South Melbourne and

1542
01:19:52,067 --> 01:19:54,227
Speaker 2: it was absolutely packed.

1543
01:19:55,147 --> 01:19:59,227
Speaker 14: Nine thousand out of suburban ground. It looked unreal, It's

1544
01:19:59,227 --> 01:20:03,867
Speaker 14: sounded unreal. Yeah, it was just a great performance by

1545
01:20:03,867 --> 01:20:05,867
Speaker 14: everyone off the field there at president to be able

1546
01:20:05,907 --> 01:20:08,707
Speaker 14: to to get a crew like that to the ground

1547
01:20:08,827 --> 01:20:11,987
Speaker 14: and it's not an outlier for that club. I would

1548
01:20:11,987 --> 01:20:15,467
Speaker 14: say Pioneer that I'm really impressed with what Auckland FC

1549
01:20:15,587 --> 01:20:20,067
Speaker 14: has done off the pitch to kind of congregate a community,

1550
01:20:20,187 --> 01:20:22,907
Speaker 14: not out of nowhere, but bring together the football community.

1551
01:20:23,147 --> 01:20:25,027
Speaker 14: But don't have an academy that's gone in and Nick

1552
01:20:25,027 --> 01:20:26,667
Speaker 14: and thirty and year roles off clubs who are trying

1553
01:20:26,667 --> 01:20:29,507
Speaker 14: to develop their actually helping them with resources to build

1554
01:20:29,547 --> 01:20:31,107
Speaker 14: them up and then they bring them in into a

1555
01:20:31,107 --> 01:20:34,867
Speaker 14: reserve league and then transition into professional getting a great

1556
01:20:34,907 --> 01:20:38,947
Speaker 14: crowd there. Preston have got their local Macedonian community right

1557
01:20:38,987 --> 01:20:41,347
Speaker 14: behind the club and they've made Friday nights at their

1558
01:20:41,387 --> 01:20:44,387
Speaker 14: home ground an event, so it's a social event as

1559
01:20:44,467 --> 01:20:46,627
Speaker 14: much as anything. And going along there and I noticed

1560
01:20:46,627 --> 01:20:48,267
Speaker 14: that behind one of the goals there at Auckland it

1561
01:20:48,267 --> 01:20:50,387
Speaker 14: feels like a social event as much as anything going

1562
01:20:50,467 --> 01:20:51,427
Speaker 14: to watch a game of.

1563
01:20:51,347 --> 01:20:52,107
Speaker 9: Football as well.

1564
01:20:52,227 --> 01:20:54,187
Speaker 14: That's what you need in this k and age. You

1565
01:20:54,267 --> 01:20:56,507
Speaker 14: need to make it an event something and there's something

1566
01:20:56,547 --> 01:20:58,587
Speaker 14: that the NURL have done really well in the last

1567
01:20:58,587 --> 01:21:00,427
Speaker 14: couple of years since COVID to bring people back through

1568
01:21:00,467 --> 01:21:03,507
Speaker 14: the gates and yeah, Preston hats off doing it as

1569
01:21:03,507 --> 01:21:06,307
Speaker 14: well as anyone in Australian football about getting you can

1570
01:21:06,467 --> 01:21:08,907
Speaker 14: in a year around your football club and making something

1571
01:21:08,947 --> 01:21:09,147
Speaker 14: of it.

1572
01:21:09,307 --> 01:21:11,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrific scenes it was. It was great to see

1573
01:21:11,907 --> 01:21:14,427
Speaker 2: lost the cover off. We've done it. I think let's

1574
01:21:14,667 --> 01:21:17,947
Speaker 2: let's catch up again next Saturday. Sound good mate, Thanks

1575
01:21:18,307 --> 01:21:21,427
Speaker 2: Madam Vicock. There our Australian correspondent ran about this time

1576
01:21:21,547 --> 01:21:24,267
Speaker 2: every Saturday afternoon on Weekend Sport eight to two New

1577
01:21:24,267 --> 01:21:24,787
Speaker 2: Stalks Hebb.

1578
01:21:25,667 --> 01:21:27,947
Speaker 12: When it's down to the line. You made a call

1579
01:21:28,107 --> 01:21:33,267
Speaker 12: on Weekend Sports with Jason Hine, News Talks.

1580
01:21:33,027 --> 01:21:35,907
Speaker 2: Hebb five to two, updating you on some live sport.

1581
01:21:35,947 --> 01:21:39,107
Speaker 2: Plunketshell Cricket matches all three games into their fourth day

1582
01:21:39,307 --> 01:21:42,427
Speaker 2: run chases. In all three at Seddon Park and Hamilton,

1583
01:21:42,787 --> 01:21:46,227
Speaker 2: Canterbury need one hundred and eighty four more runs with

1584
01:21:46,507 --> 01:21:50,267
Speaker 2: five second innings wickets and hands to beat Northern Districts.

1585
01:21:50,307 --> 01:21:53,347
Speaker 2: They're two fifty three for five, so another hundred and

1586
01:21:53,387 --> 01:21:57,907
Speaker 2: eighty four needed there. At Eden Park's Outer Oval, Auckland

1587
01:21:57,987 --> 01:22:00,707
Speaker 2: need another one hundred and sixty four runs and they

1588
01:22:00,747 --> 01:22:02,867
Speaker 2: still have eight second innings wickets and hand. This is

1589
01:22:02,867 --> 01:22:07,707
Speaker 2: after CD scored seven hundred for five to cleared in

1590
01:22:07,747 --> 01:22:12,267
Speaker 2: their first innings. Auckland batted cd forfeited their second innings

1591
01:22:12,987 --> 01:22:16,707
Speaker 2: and so Auckland are on the run chase. This is

1592
01:22:17,267 --> 01:22:19,587
Speaker 2: the game that Tom Bruce got three hundred and forty

1593
01:22:19,627 --> 01:22:21,667
Speaker 2: five and we have to catch up with him tomorrow

1594
01:22:21,707 --> 01:22:23,867
Speaker 2: to talk about that and so be happier. I'm sure

1595
01:22:23,867 --> 01:22:26,587
Speaker 2: of his CDs. I can win the game scoring three

1596
01:22:26,667 --> 01:22:29,267
Speaker 2: forty five and not winning. And at the Basemin Reserve,

1597
01:22:30,227 --> 01:22:34,187
Speaker 2: Otago need another two hundred and eighty seven runs. They're

1598
01:22:34,227 --> 01:22:37,387
Speaker 2: one hundred and two for five against Wellington, so Wellington

1599
01:22:37,427 --> 01:22:39,467
Speaker 2: looking for the five wickets, so Tiger looking for another

1600
01:22:39,507 --> 01:22:42,907
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty seven runs. So run chases are

1601
01:22:42,947 --> 01:22:44,587
Speaker 2: the order of the day and Planket Sheer will keep

1602
01:22:44,627 --> 01:22:47,227
Speaker 2: eyes on those for you after one o'clock, after two

1603
01:22:47,267 --> 01:22:49,307
Speaker 2: o'clock rather after two o'clock. The New Zealand Track and

1604
01:22:49,307 --> 01:22:51,867
Speaker 2: Field Champs are on in Dunedin. One of the glamor

1605
01:22:51,907 --> 01:22:56,347
Speaker 2: events the women's pole vault. Couple of Paris Olympic Games finalists,

1606
01:22:56,347 --> 01:23:00,187
Speaker 2: including Olivia McTaggart. She's joining us after two an upset

1607
01:23:00,307 --> 01:23:02,307
Speaker 2: in the opening round of the New Zealand Squash Open

1608
01:23:02,387 --> 01:23:05,387
Speaker 2: this week. Ollie Dunbar the eighteen year old wild card

1609
01:23:05,427 --> 01:23:08,227
Speaker 2: from Wellington with a great result. He'll join us after

1610
01:23:08,267 --> 01:23:09,987
Speaker 2: two as well.

1611
01:23:10,507 --> 01:23:13,427
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest fourse issues

1612
01:23:13,507 --> 01:23:17,347
Speaker 1: on and afterfield. It's all on Wee James Forward with

1613
01:23:17,587 --> 01:23:19,907
Speaker 1: Jason Paine on your home.

1614
01:23:19,707 --> 01:23:22,067
Speaker 12: Of Sport in New York.

1615
01:23:23,307 --> 01:23:25,427
Speaker 2: Two o seven. This is Weekend Sport for another hour

1616
01:23:25,547 --> 01:23:27,747
Speaker 2: or so. Tim Beverage in the chair after three with

1617
01:23:27,947 --> 01:23:31,787
Speaker 2: the Weekend Collective Saturday edition before we hand over heaps

1618
01:23:31,787 --> 01:23:35,667
Speaker 2: to get through Champions Day at Alleleie Today are super

1619
01:23:35,787 --> 01:23:39,467
Speaker 2: Charged Race Day. More than nine million dollars in prize

1620
01:23:39,467 --> 01:23:42,947
Speaker 2: money across the day, including the inaugural four and a

1621
01:23:43,027 --> 01:23:45,867
Speaker 2: half million dollar in New Zealand bluds dot Kiwe we'll

1622
01:23:45,907 --> 01:23:49,867
Speaker 2: talk with the trainer of race favorite Evaporate this hour.

1623
01:23:50,507 --> 01:23:53,467
Speaker 2: New Zealand bred but trained in Australia. JD. Hayes is

1624
01:23:53,467 --> 01:23:57,187
Speaker 2: the man. He's one of three brothers who trains Evaporate.

1625
01:23:57,947 --> 01:23:59,827
Speaker 2: Also this hour, want to talk to one of the

1626
01:23:59,947 --> 01:24:04,267
Speaker 2: rising stars of New Zealand squash, Olie Dunbar. He was

1627
01:24:04,307 --> 01:24:07,067
Speaker 2: a wildcard into the New Zealand Squash and christ Church

1628
01:24:07,147 --> 01:24:10,827
Speaker 2: earlier this week and stunned the player over two hundred

1629
01:24:10,907 --> 01:24:13,787
Speaker 2: places above him in the world rankings. How did this

1630
01:24:13,827 --> 01:24:17,667
Speaker 2: come about? Olli dunbathers our Olivia McTaggart shortly one of

1631
01:24:17,667 --> 01:24:20,307
Speaker 2: our top pole vaulters ahead of her competition at the

1632
01:24:20,307 --> 01:24:22,267
Speaker 2: New Zealand Track and Field Champs A but later on

1633
01:24:22,307 --> 01:24:24,587
Speaker 2: this afternoon they're on at the moment in Danedam will

1634
01:24:24,667 --> 01:24:27,427
Speaker 2: so get you to Dunedin. Actually, Nick Buley, one of

1635
01:24:27,427 --> 01:24:30,267
Speaker 2: our own is involved in the coverage of the New

1636
01:24:30,347 --> 01:24:33,347
Speaker 2: Zealand Track and Field Champs. Will get from Nick before

1637
01:24:33,427 --> 01:24:35,827
Speaker 2: three o'clock some of the big events he's looking out

1638
01:24:35,827 --> 01:24:38,587
Speaker 2: for this afternoon. You can continue to join the show.

1639
01:24:39,307 --> 01:24:41,747
Speaker 2: It's easy. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty gets

1640
01:24:41,747 --> 01:24:43,507
Speaker 2: you through on the phone nine two nine two per

1641
01:24:43,547 --> 01:24:47,307
Speaker 2: text messages and emails to Jason at Newstalk SIDB dot

1642
01:24:47,307 --> 01:24:50,987
Speaker 2: co dot nz. But as we tick over eight past two,

1643
01:24:51,107 --> 01:24:53,947
Speaker 2: it's that time. We always do this on weekend sported

1644
01:24:53,987 --> 01:24:55,747
Speaker 2: around about this time. We bring you up to date

1645
01:24:56,627 --> 01:25:00,187
Speaker 2: with the sporting fixtures that have happened while you were

1646
01:25:00,227 --> 01:25:03,507
Speaker 2: focusing your attention on something else, in case you missed it.

1647
01:25:03,707 --> 01:25:09,907
Speaker 2: Australian codes underway in the afl Ossie rules. Hawthorne winners

1648
01:25:09,907 --> 01:25:11,227
Speaker 2: over the Swans.

1649
01:25:11,027 --> 01:25:14,907
Speaker 22: Farris and Battle, the flexibility for Sicily to go forward and.

1650
01:25:14,867 --> 01:25:17,587
Speaker 2: Have any impacts and maybe clinch the game.

1651
01:25:22,267 --> 01:25:27,347
Speaker 12: Smiles of the lights in the Hawthorne.

1652
01:25:26,907 --> 01:25:29,827
Speaker 2: Couches box ninety six to seventy six in favor of

1653
01:25:29,867 --> 01:25:33,027
Speaker 2: Hawthorne to get this season underweight and the NRL. The

1654
01:25:33,107 --> 01:25:36,027
Speaker 2: Knights did it the hard way getting past the West Tigers.

1655
01:25:36,027 --> 01:25:38,747
Speaker 17: Somehow they hold on. But for how much long down

1656
01:25:39,027 --> 01:25:43,467
Speaker 17: pong that they've got numbers piste Charley past.

1657
01:25:43,627 --> 01:25:44,587
Speaker 12: Un the lavable.

1658
01:25:45,707 --> 01:25:48,347
Speaker 2: It comes away to my shoe. My shoe gets there,

1659
01:25:48,947 --> 01:25:50,227
Speaker 2: My shoe gets.

1660
01:25:49,947 --> 01:25:54,067
Speaker 17: There, new Castle on the Virgeon. Look you again, put

1661
01:25:54,067 --> 01:25:56,507
Speaker 17: my shoe fights. He's waiting the line.

1662
01:25:57,107 --> 01:25:57,947
Speaker 2: What did he say?

1663
01:25:57,987 --> 01:25:58,107
Speaker 12: Then?

1664
01:26:00,347 --> 01:26:04,307
Speaker 2: What did they commentators say? Teen eight the final score

1665
01:26:04,827 --> 01:26:06,747
Speaker 2: and equally is tough for the Rabbit used to beat

1666
01:26:06,787 --> 01:26:07,747
Speaker 2: the Dolphins.

1667
01:26:07,947 --> 01:26:17,147
Speaker 16: Zellis Humphreys Gray right, great ball tescoes revenues hit the.

1668
01:26:17,267 --> 01:26:22,187
Speaker 2: Fronts sixteen fourteen there for South Sydney and continuing the

1669
01:26:22,227 --> 01:26:25,387
Speaker 2: trend of two point or two goal margins in the

1670
01:26:25,387 --> 01:26:28,267
Speaker 2: A League. Melbourne City two mil winners over MacArthur.

1671
01:26:29,947 --> 01:26:33,147
Speaker 22: Let's see what he does with this one.

1672
01:26:34,027 --> 01:26:40,987
Speaker 12: No probin's at all for Maxcaputo who stepped.

1673
01:26:40,587 --> 01:26:43,147
Speaker 2: Top to take it and yet another two point margin.

1674
01:26:43,187 --> 01:26:47,627
Speaker 2: In Super Rugby, Opicki as Poorscha Woodman Wickliffe sunk the

1675
01:26:47,707 --> 01:26:51,067
Speaker 2: chiefs Manawa twenty four to twenty two. In the dying moments,

1676
01:26:51,547 --> 01:26:55,507
Speaker 2: the Blues down by three, charging down the right wing

1677
01:26:55,587 --> 01:26:57,707
Speaker 2: flank Poorsha Woodman black Cliff.

1678
01:26:57,987 --> 01:27:03,187
Speaker 3: How many times have we seen her throw away defenders,

1679
01:27:03,787 --> 01:27:05,587
Speaker 3: She's done it again for the Blues.

1680
01:27:06,067 --> 01:27:09,547
Speaker 1: They at the front of the schoons from the trag

1681
01:27:09,627 --> 01:27:13,067
Speaker 1: field and the court on your home of sort weekends

1682
01:27:13,067 --> 01:27:15,587
Speaker 1: for it where the Jason Vine News talks.

1683
01:27:15,467 --> 01:27:17,907
Speaker 2: V ten past two. The New Zealand Track and Field

1684
01:27:17,947 --> 01:27:19,787
Speaker 2: Champs on this weekend in dneed In. One of the

1685
01:27:19,787 --> 01:27:22,467
Speaker 2: glamour events is the women's pole vault from four point

1686
01:27:22,467 --> 01:27:27,107
Speaker 2: forty this afternoon. Paris Olympic Games finalists Eliza McCartney and

1687
01:27:27,187 --> 01:27:30,787
Speaker 2: Olivia McTaggart are in the field. After one of the

1688
01:27:30,827 --> 01:27:34,627
Speaker 2: more unique pole vault finals at the Olympics last year.

1689
01:27:34,467 --> 01:27:38,347
Speaker 22: By virtue of coldback, it looks like the New Zealanders,

1690
01:27:38,587 --> 01:27:41,587
Speaker 22: all three of them will be in the final because

1691
01:27:41,627 --> 01:27:44,747
Speaker 22: you've got eleven that have qualified automatically. Because you had

1692
01:27:44,747 --> 01:27:48,267
Speaker 22: eleven rather than twelve. The mandatary twelve for the Olympic

1693
01:27:48,347 --> 01:27:53,067
Speaker 22: final get through. Nine other athletes have qualified in addition

1694
01:27:53,107 --> 01:27:55,467
Speaker 22: to those elevens, so you can have twenty in the

1695
01:27:55,507 --> 01:27:59,907
Speaker 22: final field. And that is going to include Imaginariis who

1696
01:28:00,067 --> 01:28:02,907
Speaker 22: made it at four point two and four point four

1697
01:28:03,587 --> 01:28:05,987
Speaker 22: and then failed three times at four point five to five,

1698
01:28:06,067 --> 01:28:10,507
Speaker 22: and Livy McTaggart, who was ditto across each of those heights.

1699
01:28:10,667 --> 01:28:13,547
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite remarkable scenes last year in the pole vault

1700
01:28:13,547 --> 01:28:16,867
Speaker 2: final in Paris, Olivia mctaggartt is with us. Let's start

1701
01:28:16,907 --> 01:28:20,747
Speaker 2: with that. Olivia, You, Eliza McCartney, Emaginis all qualifying for

1702
01:28:20,787 --> 01:28:23,667
Speaker 2: the pole vault final last year. How big a goal

1703
01:28:24,267 --> 01:28:27,267
Speaker 2: did you tick off that day by competing in an

1704
01:28:27,267 --> 01:28:28,107
Speaker 2: Olympic final.

1705
01:28:29,067 --> 01:28:34,427
Speaker 10: Honestly, it's really funny because that night before the Olympic qualifier,

1706
01:28:34,987 --> 01:28:37,267
Speaker 10: I wrote a dari I will be an Olympic finalist.

1707
01:28:37,347 --> 01:28:39,507
Speaker 10: I will be an Olympic finalist about ten times in

1708
01:28:40,507 --> 01:28:44,027
Speaker 10: my journal and so that was definitely my biggest goal

1709
01:28:44,467 --> 01:28:46,987
Speaker 10: was to make the Olympic final. In a pole volt event,

1710
01:28:46,987 --> 01:28:48,507
Speaker 10: you never know what's going to happen, and this was

1711
01:28:48,507 --> 01:28:50,547
Speaker 10: a prime example. If you didn't know what would happen,

1712
01:28:50,587 --> 01:28:52,787
Speaker 10: and so we had eighteen girls go through and I

1713
01:28:52,867 --> 01:28:54,907
Speaker 10: was one of them, and so I was absolutely stoked.

1714
01:28:54,907 --> 01:28:57,067
Speaker 10: I didn't compete my best in the qualification, but it

1715
01:28:57,107 --> 01:28:59,427
Speaker 10: got me through and that's just the way that sport goes.

1716
01:28:59,507 --> 01:29:00,147
Speaker 9: So it's awesome.

1717
01:29:00,307 --> 01:29:02,827
Speaker 2: Indeed, well you manifested it by writing it so many

1718
01:29:02,867 --> 01:29:06,107
Speaker 2: times the night before. I love it. You cleared four

1719
01:29:06,147 --> 01:29:10,267
Speaker 2: six and finished thirteenth. Is for sixteen hour mark that

1720
01:29:10,307 --> 01:29:14,547
Speaker 2: you feel you can you can clear quite consistently, I'd

1721
01:29:14,587 --> 01:29:14,867
Speaker 2: like to.

1722
01:29:14,827 --> 01:29:17,667
Speaker 10: Think so, Yeah, for sure, when everything's good on the day,

1723
01:29:17,707 --> 01:29:21,387
Speaker 10: conditions are going smoothly and I'm on the right poles,

1724
01:29:21,427 --> 01:29:22,987
Speaker 10: then for me AS sixty should be one of those

1725
01:29:23,067 --> 01:29:26,187
Speaker 10: heights where I get more consistently sort of.

1726
01:29:26,227 --> 01:29:27,307
Speaker 7: I think it's within my.

1727
01:29:27,267 --> 01:29:31,267
Speaker 10: Top ten now almost all of my top ten results

1728
01:29:31,307 --> 01:29:33,787
Speaker 10: have been for me AS sixty, So it's that height

1729
01:29:33,827 --> 01:29:36,027
Speaker 10: that we like to aim for each competition, and most

1730
01:29:36,067 --> 01:29:37,427
Speaker 10: of the time that sort of gets you in that

1731
01:29:37,867 --> 01:29:40,947
Speaker 10: top field overseas, So definitely over here in New Zealand

1732
01:29:41,347 --> 01:29:43,707
Speaker 10: this afternoon, that'll be what I'm moving for.

1733
01:29:44,227 --> 01:29:46,707
Speaker 2: What are the changes that you've made in your technique,

1734
01:29:46,747 --> 01:29:50,547
Speaker 2: your approach to the sport, whether it's physical mental, I'm

1735
01:29:50,587 --> 01:29:53,147
Speaker 2: not sure that that have allowed you to more consistently

1736
01:29:53,547 --> 01:29:54,507
Speaker 2: reach heights like that.

1737
01:29:56,227 --> 01:29:57,467
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think one of them is.

1738
01:29:57,827 --> 01:30:00,227
Speaker 10: We've now got our new coach, Scott Simpson. We've been

1739
01:30:00,227 --> 01:30:02,067
Speaker 10: working with him for about over a year and he's

1740
01:30:02,107 --> 01:30:04,307
Speaker 10: one of the best, if not the best, technical poll

1741
01:30:04,347 --> 01:30:06,867
Speaker 10: VOT coach in the world, So very lucky have him.

1742
01:30:07,067 --> 01:30:09,067
Speaker 10: And what we've been working on is my run ups,

1743
01:30:09,107 --> 01:30:11,547
Speaker 10: so we really want to get that speed going. I

1744
01:30:11,587 --> 01:30:14,187
Speaker 10: had about five months off due to injury the year

1745
01:30:14,267 --> 01:30:16,187
Speaker 10: leading into the Olympics, and so now it's sort of

1746
01:30:16,227 --> 01:30:18,987
Speaker 10: just getting back on that trajectory of getting faster again.

1747
01:30:19,427 --> 01:30:21,227
Speaker 10: Faster you are, the bigger poles you get on, the

1748
01:30:21,267 --> 01:30:23,307
Speaker 10: higher you jump, so that's been a big one. But

1749
01:30:23,387 --> 01:30:28,107
Speaker 10: also the way that I run so very mechanical, very technical,

1750
01:30:28,307 --> 01:30:30,587
Speaker 10: and so it's just getting that confidence back. I lost

1751
01:30:30,587 --> 01:30:33,547
Speaker 10: it for a little bit there, probably a few months ago,

1752
01:30:33,587 --> 01:30:35,067
Speaker 10: and so right now I feel like I'm in a

1753
01:30:35,147 --> 01:30:38,747
Speaker 10: much better headspace and going in there having fun, just

1754
01:30:38,787 --> 01:30:42,547
Speaker 10: sort of setting expectations for myself but in the right way,

1755
01:30:42,587 --> 01:30:45,427
Speaker 10: with the right mentality and knowing that I just need

1756
01:30:45,467 --> 01:30:47,787
Speaker 10: to focus on the process step by step.

1757
01:30:47,667 --> 01:30:51,587
Speaker 2: Literally indeed, how much heavier are the bigger polls or

1758
01:30:51,627 --> 01:30:52,067
Speaker 2: are they not?

1759
01:30:53,347 --> 01:30:55,987
Speaker 10: They're not too much heavier, they're a little bit bigger.

1760
01:30:57,667 --> 01:31:01,787
Speaker 10: And so it's called demandrule, which I guess, guess is

1761
01:31:01,827 --> 01:31:04,467
Speaker 10: how sex the pole is and the flexes change as

1762
01:31:04,467 --> 01:31:08,267
Speaker 10: you go through poles, which you go through about maybe

1763
01:31:08,387 --> 01:31:13,027
Speaker 10: on average five five poles per competition as you get

1764
01:31:13,027 --> 01:31:15,947
Speaker 10: faster and adrenaline and maybe more more wind in there.

1765
01:31:16,027 --> 01:31:19,907
Speaker 10: So yeah, not too much heavier a little bit, but yeah,

1766
01:31:20,307 --> 01:31:22,107
Speaker 10: they all feel similar.

1767
01:31:21,827 --> 01:31:25,107
Speaker 2: Enough, and in terms of the number of jumps that

1768
01:31:25,147 --> 01:31:28,267
Speaker 2: you are required to take during a competition, because look,

1769
01:31:28,307 --> 01:31:30,507
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it feels as though that every jump,

1770
01:31:30,547 --> 01:31:33,307
Speaker 2: with every jump you'd take, it SAPs a little bit

1771
01:31:33,307 --> 01:31:35,547
Speaker 2: more energy out of you. Or actually is that made

1772
01:31:35,587 --> 01:31:38,787
Speaker 2: up because you just got more adrenaline as the height

1773
01:31:38,827 --> 01:31:39,427
Speaker 2: gets higher.

1774
01:31:40,707 --> 01:31:41,667
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good question.

1775
01:31:41,867 --> 01:31:43,467
Speaker 10: It's kind of a bit of both, to be honest.

1776
01:31:43,467 --> 01:31:46,627
Speaker 10: At my most recent competition about three weeks ago in Birmingham,

1777
01:31:47,147 --> 01:31:49,667
Speaker 10: I jumped Formula sixty five, which was a great height

1778
01:31:49,667 --> 01:31:53,227
Speaker 10: for me this season season's best, and I did eleven jumps,

1779
01:31:53,267 --> 01:31:55,947
Speaker 10: which is quite a lot, and it's because two of

1780
01:31:55,987 --> 01:31:58,827
Speaker 10: my heights I had, I used all three attempts, so

1781
01:31:58,827 --> 01:32:01,427
Speaker 10: you get three attempts at each height, and I just

1782
01:32:01,427 --> 01:32:03,027
Speaker 10: happened to use all three of them to get on

1783
01:32:03,067 --> 01:32:06,307
Speaker 10: the right pole and get moving. So ideally you'd actually

1784
01:32:06,427 --> 01:32:10,627
Speaker 10: prefer to be doing around anywhere between six and ten,

1785
01:32:10,787 --> 01:32:13,507
Speaker 10: but it depends how many heights you're doing, so again,

1786
01:32:13,547 --> 01:32:15,547
Speaker 10: I'll be coming in a little bit lower today. Probably

1787
01:32:15,587 --> 01:32:17,907
Speaker 10: around for me is thirty five and then work through

1788
01:32:17,907 --> 01:32:20,347
Speaker 10: the competition, so you do fatigue a little bit, so

1789
01:32:20,347 --> 01:32:24,107
Speaker 10: you need take that into account. But also it's just, yeah,

1790
01:32:24,147 --> 01:32:25,907
Speaker 10: that adrenaline when you get to the big heights is

1791
01:32:25,987 --> 01:32:26,547
Speaker 10: pre major.

1792
01:32:26,787 --> 01:32:29,027
Speaker 2: I bet and we mentioned that event in Birmingham three

1793
01:32:29,027 --> 01:32:32,627
Speaker 2: weeks ago, four sixty five to gain second at that event.

1794
01:32:32,667 --> 01:32:34,667
Speaker 2: I think you had another event before that as well,

1795
01:32:34,667 --> 01:32:36,987
Speaker 2: didn't you a couple of events over in Europe in February?

1796
01:32:37,027 --> 01:32:39,107
Speaker 2: So do you feel like you're coming into the National

1797
01:32:39,147 --> 01:32:40,387
Speaker 2: Champs in pretty good form?

1798
01:32:41,627 --> 01:32:41,867
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1799
01:32:41,987 --> 01:32:43,907
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do feel like a pretty good form at

1800
01:32:43,907 --> 01:32:45,747
Speaker 10: the moment. I've had a lot of consistency. I've been

1801
01:32:45,827 --> 01:32:48,627
Speaker 10: injury free, and I think that's the main thing for athletes,

1802
01:32:48,667 --> 01:32:50,547
Speaker 10: especially as we get older. You just want to have

1803
01:32:51,987 --> 01:32:55,267
Speaker 10: training under your belt. And no injuries. So yeah, the

1804
01:32:55,307 --> 01:32:57,547
Speaker 10: first competition for me didn't go too well for me

1805
01:32:57,587 --> 01:33:01,627
Speaker 10: as forty that was a big sort of mental barrier. Physically,

1806
01:33:01,667 --> 01:33:04,467
Speaker 10: I'm the best I think I've ever been, if not

1807
01:33:04,507 --> 01:33:07,307
Speaker 10: in the last few years, but mentally I was really

1808
01:33:07,347 --> 01:33:09,947
Speaker 10: off and it just went to show that coming into Birmingham,

1809
01:33:09,987 --> 01:33:12,067
Speaker 10: I had to change a few things mentally to make

1810
01:33:12,107 --> 01:33:14,627
Speaker 10: sure that I was just in a good place and

1811
01:33:14,707 --> 01:33:16,907
Speaker 10: I was enjoying it and I was having fun and

1812
01:33:16,987 --> 01:33:18,907
Speaker 10: I actually believed in myself. At the end of the day,

1813
01:33:19,187 --> 01:33:21,827
Speaker 10: you got to believe in yourself, and then if I'm

1814
01:33:21,867 --> 01:33:23,987
Speaker 10: in good physical neck, which I am right now, both

1815
01:33:24,027 --> 01:33:25,667
Speaker 10: of those put together, it should be for a good

1816
01:33:25,667 --> 01:33:27,547
Speaker 10: comp with hopefully some good conditions.

1817
01:33:27,627 --> 01:33:30,027
Speaker 2: Indeed, well that's yeah, that's something you can't control obviously,

1818
01:33:30,187 --> 01:33:31,627
Speaker 2: is what the condition's going to be like. But I

1819
01:33:32,027 --> 01:33:33,627
Speaker 2: think Daneda and it's put on a couple of quite

1820
01:33:33,707 --> 01:33:35,387
Speaker 2: nice days this week by the sounds of things, so

1821
01:33:35,427 --> 01:33:38,787
Speaker 2: hopefully that happens this afternoon too. You talk about not

1822
01:33:38,787 --> 01:33:40,587
Speaker 2: being in a great place mentally, is that just like

1823
01:33:40,627 --> 01:33:43,507
Speaker 2: a lack of confidence just doubt that Is it that

1824
01:33:43,547 --> 01:33:45,987
Speaker 2: sort of thing or is it more as you just

1825
01:33:46,027 --> 01:33:50,067
Speaker 2: reference there just being able to relax in the heat

1826
01:33:50,067 --> 01:33:50,627
Speaker 2: of the battle.

1827
01:33:52,107 --> 01:33:53,227
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a little bit of both.

1828
01:33:53,707 --> 01:33:55,867
Speaker 10: I think last year going into Paris, it was just

1829
01:33:55,987 --> 01:33:58,947
Speaker 10: all eyes on that one competition and you're almost so

1830
01:33:59,067 --> 01:34:02,027
Speaker 10: tunnel visioned that Physically I was not in a good way,

1831
01:34:02,107 --> 01:34:04,187
Speaker 10: having five months off due to injury and then I

1832
01:34:04,227 --> 01:34:07,467
Speaker 10: got really sick a few weeks before. I was probably

1833
01:34:07,467 --> 01:34:10,547
Speaker 10: the worst physical build up, but mentally I was almost

1834
01:34:10,867 --> 01:34:12,947
Speaker 10: maybe not delusional, but in a sense, I was like,

1835
01:34:13,027 --> 01:34:14,867
Speaker 10: I can do this. I will make the Olympic final,

1836
01:34:14,907 --> 01:34:17,507
Speaker 10: even though the physicality didn't show it, even though I did.

1837
01:34:17,547 --> 01:34:19,867
Speaker 10: Whereas now physically I'm in a good place and mentally

1838
01:34:19,867 --> 01:34:23,947
Speaker 10: it just sort of comes down to, yeah, believing in myself,

1839
01:34:24,067 --> 01:34:26,467
Speaker 10: knowing that I've got that technique in my locker and

1840
01:34:26,507 --> 01:34:28,467
Speaker 10: I can bring it out when I need to. And

1841
01:34:28,507 --> 01:34:31,427
Speaker 10: so I think that Birmingham comp really showed that. I

1842
01:34:31,427 --> 01:34:33,587
Speaker 10: guess tiger in me is sort of what my coach says,

1843
01:34:33,627 --> 01:34:35,587
Speaker 10: We've got this tiger in me. When I get to

1844
01:34:35,627 --> 01:34:37,667
Speaker 10: those third attempts and I get to those big heights,

1845
01:34:37,707 --> 01:34:39,307
Speaker 10: they can really bring it out. So I see a

1846
01:34:39,307 --> 01:34:41,307
Speaker 10: trust that I've got it in me and make it

1847
01:34:41,347 --> 01:34:42,347
Speaker 10: happen love.

1848
01:34:42,147 --> 01:34:44,827
Speaker 2: It is there any you've been doing You've been doing

1849
01:34:44,827 --> 01:34:46,427
Speaker 2: this for a while now, but is there still any

1850
01:34:46,467 --> 01:34:49,867
Speaker 2: sense of trepidation? Because for meter sixty five is a

1851
01:34:49,867 --> 01:34:53,027
Speaker 2: long way up. If something goes wrong, you know up there,

1852
01:34:53,827 --> 01:34:57,107
Speaker 2: you know the outcome might not be that pretty. Is

1853
01:34:57,147 --> 01:35:00,307
Speaker 2: there still a sense of trepidation or are you past

1854
01:35:00,387 --> 01:35:00,827
Speaker 2: that now?

1855
01:35:02,147 --> 01:35:04,387
Speaker 10: I think I'm past that now. Those fights excite me

1856
01:35:04,587 --> 01:35:07,067
Speaker 10: and I know what poles I need to be on.

1857
01:35:07,187 --> 01:35:09,027
Speaker 10: I know all of the sort of most of the

1858
01:35:09,227 --> 01:35:14,387
Speaker 10: strategic planning that goes into into those jumps, and there's

1859
01:35:14,387 --> 01:35:15,907
Speaker 10: a lot of feel to it. So the more I've

1860
01:35:15,907 --> 01:35:18,467
Speaker 10: been doing Polvold, I'm, you know, just past ten years now,

1861
01:35:18,787 --> 01:35:20,587
Speaker 10: the more you know how to bail out of a

1862
01:35:20,627 --> 01:35:24,787
Speaker 10: jump if it's going to be dangerous or you sort

1863
01:35:24,787 --> 01:35:26,707
Speaker 10: of just like feel it out and so it's not

1864
01:35:26,827 --> 01:35:29,467
Speaker 10: as dangerous and you're not really hopefully not going to

1865
01:35:29,467 --> 01:35:31,667
Speaker 10: be going in some weird directions when you're up that high.

1866
01:35:32,107 --> 01:35:34,027
Speaker 10: It's more you're either getting it or you're not, or

1867
01:35:34,067 --> 01:35:36,587
Speaker 10: you're on the right pole or you're not where the

1868
01:35:36,667 --> 01:35:39,107
Speaker 10: stands how far are you bringing them in? So it's

1869
01:35:39,107 --> 01:35:40,467
Speaker 10: a lot of trust in the coach and a lot

1870
01:35:40,507 --> 01:35:42,867
Speaker 10: of trust in myself. But we're really lucky we've got

1871
01:35:42,907 --> 01:35:45,907
Speaker 10: James Stain, he's one of the athletes competing, and then

1872
01:35:46,507 --> 01:35:48,667
Speaker 10: also my coach will be calling in from the UK,

1873
01:35:48,867 --> 01:35:51,107
Speaker 10: so we've got some good backing outstanding.

1874
01:35:51,307 --> 01:35:53,267
Speaker 2: It's coming up two years since you jump your PB

1875
01:35:53,467 --> 01:35:57,747
Speaker 2: four seventy one in Auckland in March of twenty twenty three.

1876
01:35:57,827 --> 01:35:59,747
Speaker 2: How high you reckon you can go? Can you you

1877
01:35:59,827 --> 01:36:03,307
Speaker 2: reckon you can jump four seventy five for eighty Yeah?

1878
01:36:03,427 --> 01:36:04,307
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent?

1879
01:36:04,627 --> 01:36:06,587
Speaker 10: And I love that right now today able to that

1880
01:36:06,667 --> 01:36:09,987
Speaker 10: was one hundred percent certainty, because if you'd asked me

1881
01:36:10,107 --> 01:36:11,467
Speaker 10: a few months ago, it might have.

1882
01:36:11,467 --> 01:36:12,267
Speaker 9: Been a different question.

1883
01:36:12,387 --> 01:36:15,027
Speaker 10: But I really back myself now to be getting into

1884
01:36:15,027 --> 01:36:18,387
Speaker 10: those heights. I know, you know the polls and everything

1885
01:36:18,427 --> 01:36:20,587
Speaker 10: I need to be on and it's just bringing everything

1886
01:36:20,627 --> 01:36:22,947
Speaker 10: together on the day. So whether that happens when I'm

1887
01:36:22,987 --> 01:36:24,747
Speaker 10: overseas again this year, it would be great for that

1888
01:36:24,787 --> 01:36:27,187
Speaker 10: to happen at Japan's World Champs at the end of

1889
01:36:27,187 --> 01:36:27,947
Speaker 10: the year, though.

1890
01:36:28,067 --> 01:36:31,587
Speaker 2: Absolutely so following this weekend in Dunedin. What does the

1891
01:36:31,627 --> 01:36:34,187
Speaker 2: path forward look like for you? Obviously World Champs are

1892
01:36:34,467 --> 01:36:36,627
Speaker 2: a focus of yours. What are the other big events

1893
01:36:36,667 --> 01:36:38,227
Speaker 2: for you in twenty twenty five.

1894
01:36:40,307 --> 01:36:42,027
Speaker 10: I mean to be honest, it's just putting together a

1895
01:36:42,067 --> 01:36:45,787
Speaker 10: successful campaign plan. So it's going to be probably anywhere

1896
01:36:45,827 --> 01:36:49,707
Speaker 10: between seven and ten competitions leading into the World Championships

1897
01:36:49,747 --> 01:36:52,427
Speaker 10: in Tokyo, and we're making sure that each one of

1898
01:36:52,467 --> 01:36:55,227
Speaker 10: them is actually having a purpose to lead towards the

1899
01:36:55,227 --> 01:36:57,827
Speaker 10: World Championships. Some of them will be fun, some of

1900
01:36:57,827 --> 01:37:00,027
Speaker 10: them it's for money, some of them it's for just

1901
01:37:00,107 --> 01:37:03,947
Speaker 10: that higher quality fields and so I'd really love to

1902
01:37:03,947 --> 01:37:05,947
Speaker 10: get back into some diamond leagues. That's a big goal

1903
01:37:05,947 --> 01:37:09,347
Speaker 10: for me. Yeah, and then that'll prep me really well

1904
01:37:09,347 --> 01:37:11,267
Speaker 10: for the big, big crowds in Tokyo.

1905
01:37:11,787 --> 01:37:13,547
Speaker 2: Have you committed to the next Olympic cycle?

1906
01:37:14,747 --> 01:37:19,267
Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, committed to twenty twenty eight. Yeah,

1907
01:37:19,427 --> 01:37:20,907
Speaker 10: it's one of those sports where you can be a

1908
01:37:20,947 --> 01:37:23,507
Speaker 10: little bit older, so who knows, maybe even thirty two.

1909
01:37:24,107 --> 01:37:25,507
Speaker 10: We'll just take you one step at a time.

1910
01:37:25,667 --> 01:37:27,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, Let's let's get twenty twenty eight out of the

1911
01:37:27,587 --> 01:37:29,747
Speaker 2: way first, and then we can go we can go

1912
01:37:29,827 --> 01:37:31,827
Speaker 2: beyond that. Olivia is such a delight to catch up

1913
01:37:31,827 --> 01:37:33,587
Speaker 2: with you all the best and Dunedan this weekend and

1914
01:37:33,627 --> 01:37:35,507
Speaker 2: look forward to seeing what the rest of this year

1915
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Speaker 2: holds for you. Awesome, Thank you very much, No thanks

1916
01:37:38,507 --> 01:37:41,907
Speaker 2: for joining us, Olivia Olivia mctaggartt they're part of an

1917
01:37:41,987 --> 01:37:45,267
Speaker 2: exciting woman's pole vault field including her fellow Olympia and

1918
01:37:45,307 --> 01:37:49,187
Speaker 2: Eliza McCartney four forty This afternoon, what actually you get

1919
01:37:49,187 --> 01:37:51,467
Speaker 2: you to Dunedin before we close the show at three

1920
01:37:51,467 --> 01:37:54,587
Speaker 2: o'clock with Nick Beauley, who's part of the television coverage

1921
01:37:54,587 --> 01:37:57,027
Speaker 2: of the Track and Field Champs, to talk about the

1922
01:37:57,027 --> 01:37:59,147
Speaker 2: pole vault and some of the other events that have

1923
01:37:59,267 --> 01:38:01,667
Speaker 2: caught his eye or he's looking forward to in particular

1924
01:38:02,067 --> 01:38:05,267
Speaker 2: over the next or tonight and then again tomorrow as well.

1925
01:38:05,467 --> 01:38:08,427
Speaker 2: When we come back though, we're off to Allerslie Champion's

1926
01:38:08,507 --> 01:38:11,227
Speaker 2: Day including the inaugural running of the four and a

1927
01:38:11,267 --> 01:38:14,867
Speaker 2: half million dollar n ZEDB Kiwi. The trainer of the

1928
01:38:14,947 --> 01:38:16,747
Speaker 2: favorite is with us right after this.

1929
01:38:17,547 --> 01:38:20,947
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game weekends for it with

1930
01:38:21,147 --> 01:38:25,227
Speaker 1: Jason nine and GJ. Garnohoves New Zealand's most trusted home

1931
01:38:25,267 --> 01:38:26,187
Speaker 1: builder News.

1932
01:38:25,947 --> 01:38:30,147
Speaker 2: Dog MB two twenty four champions Day at Allesley today

1933
01:38:30,187 --> 01:38:33,707
Speaker 2: featuring the NZB Kiwi four Group one races and the

1934
01:38:33,707 --> 01:38:37,027
Speaker 2: Auckland Cup are super charged race day, more than nine

1935
01:38:37,107 --> 01:38:41,107
Speaker 2: million dollars in prize money across the day. The inaugural

1936
01:38:41,147 --> 01:38:44,547
Speaker 2: four and a half million dollar n ZB Kiwi is

1937
01:38:44,627 --> 01:38:47,227
Speaker 2: part of it the richest sporting events in New Zealand

1938
01:38:47,267 --> 01:38:49,947
Speaker 2: for three year olds to be raced over fifteen hundred meters.

1939
01:38:50,027 --> 01:38:53,387
Speaker 2: Race favorite is Evaporate, New Zealand bred but trained in

1940
01:38:53,427 --> 01:38:56,707
Speaker 2: Australia and considered one of the highest credential horses ever

1941
01:38:56,787 --> 01:39:00,427
Speaker 2: to race in New Zealand. Evaporate is trained by brothers

1942
01:39:00,507 --> 01:39:04,267
Speaker 2: Ben will and j D Hayes. JD is with us, Sir,

1943
01:39:04,427 --> 01:39:06,787
Speaker 2: why did you decide to bring a vent Parate to

1944
01:39:06,827 --> 01:39:10,947
Speaker 2: New Zealand for the n ZB can we? JD look there.

1945
01:39:10,947 --> 01:39:12,947
Speaker 21: As you touched on them with the prize money and offer.

1946
01:39:12,987 --> 01:39:14,987
Speaker 23: It was too good to offer to refuse and we

1947
01:39:15,027 --> 01:39:16,947
Speaker 23: feel like we have right horse for the race.

1948
01:39:17,027 --> 01:39:19,267
Speaker 21: So he's quite short.

1949
01:39:18,907 --> 01:39:20,867
Speaker 23: At the market and hoping the market's correct because he

1950
01:39:20,907 --> 01:39:22,107
Speaker 23: does bring very good form lines.

1951
01:39:22,347 --> 01:39:25,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us about his recent form lines and a

1952
01:39:25,227 --> 01:39:28,467
Speaker 2: bit about Evaporate the horse as well.

1953
01:39:28,627 --> 01:39:29,627
Speaker 21: Evaporated himself.

1954
01:39:29,667 --> 01:39:32,427
Speaker 23: Well, well, the journey started when we bought him out

1955
01:39:32,427 --> 01:39:36,507
Speaker 23: of the Magic Millions there on the Gold Coast two

1956
01:39:36,547 --> 01:39:38,787
Speaker 23: years ago. Now, we paid three hundred and twenty grand

1957
01:39:38,787 --> 01:39:41,147
Speaker 23: for him. He was a big, strong cult that we

1958
01:39:41,187 --> 01:39:44,707
Speaker 23: thought would only be he really what he did in

1959
01:39:44,707 --> 01:39:47,987
Speaker 23: the spring, this is the beginning of what we think

1960
01:39:47,987 --> 01:39:50,427
Speaker 23: he can do for his career. He's really a progressive

1961
01:39:50,427 --> 01:39:53,667
Speaker 23: horse in the stable. His last start was Brave. He

1962
01:39:53,787 --> 01:39:56,347
Speaker 23: was three deep the trip into the breeze and only

1963
01:39:56,387 --> 01:39:58,267
Speaker 23: beating a few lengths by some of the best white

1964
01:39:58,307 --> 01:39:59,307
Speaker 23: performers in Australia.

1965
01:39:59,387 --> 01:40:02,267
Speaker 21: So he's a horse. But we're really excited about.

1966
01:40:02,387 --> 01:40:05,947
Speaker 2: How confident can you be when you bring more or

1967
01:40:05,947 --> 01:40:09,027
Speaker 2: any some fact across to a completely different country.

1968
01:40:10,747 --> 01:40:14,667
Speaker 23: Look, it's definitely an art. They have to have the

1969
01:40:14,747 --> 01:40:17,587
Speaker 23: right animal to be able to handle the trip. But

1970
01:40:17,627 --> 01:40:20,347
Speaker 23: he seems so settled in really well. We've been hosted

1971
01:40:20,827 --> 01:40:23,507
Speaker 23: staying at Cambridge stud there with Lansdoble and they've been

1972
01:40:24,107 --> 01:40:27,507
Speaker 23: so supportive and accommodating and the horse has really thrived there.

1973
01:40:27,547 --> 01:40:31,507
Speaker 21: So he seems to have handled the trip. So we're

1974
01:40:32,347 --> 01:40:33,107
Speaker 21: very happy with the horse.

1975
01:40:33,187 --> 01:40:34,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you structure it? Because I've read reports

1976
01:40:34,987 --> 01:40:37,947
Speaker 2: he looked very comfortable at elles Lee earlier in the week.

1977
01:40:38,267 --> 01:40:41,827
Speaker 2: How long before the rates do you ideally bring him over?

1978
01:40:42,027 --> 01:40:43,587
Speaker 2: What do you do while you're here? How do you

1979
01:40:43,587 --> 01:40:45,947
Speaker 2: get him in peak condition for this afternoon.

1980
01:40:46,547 --> 01:40:48,627
Speaker 23: Well, he's actually the third horse that we've brought over

1981
01:40:48,667 --> 01:40:51,267
Speaker 23: to New Zealand this year, and we brought here the

1982
01:40:51,307 --> 01:40:53,547
Speaker 23: Shock over a bout months ago and we just found

1983
01:40:53,587 --> 01:40:55,547
Speaker 23: the same blueprint that a get because it seemed to

1984
01:40:55,587 --> 01:40:56,827
Speaker 23: work with here the Shock he was able to win.

1985
01:40:56,867 --> 01:41:00,907
Speaker 23: So he arrived on Thursday last week. He's had ten days,

1986
01:41:00,907 --> 01:41:02,987
Speaker 23: said Lee, and he was able to have two nice

1987
01:41:02,987 --> 01:41:07,627
Speaker 23: pieces of work into the race. And yeah, just also

1988
01:41:07,867 --> 01:41:10,427
Speaker 23: it also depends on being able to know when the

1989
01:41:10,427 --> 01:41:12,347
Speaker 23: flight is as well, so you have to have sort

1990
01:41:12,347 --> 01:41:12,867
Speaker 23: of walked.

1991
01:41:12,787 --> 01:41:13,907
Speaker 21: Work those two things in.

1992
01:41:13,947 --> 01:41:16,867
Speaker 23: But ideally ten days before seems to be our spite

1993
01:41:16,907 --> 01:41:17,347
Speaker 23: that works.

1994
01:41:17,587 --> 01:41:20,107
Speaker 2: And he has to race right handed for the first

1995
01:41:20,107 --> 01:41:20,787
Speaker 2: time as well.

1996
01:41:20,667 --> 01:41:21,107
Speaker 5: Is that right?

1997
01:41:21,947 --> 01:41:24,307
Speaker 21: Yeah, so that's going to be a question mark for sure.

1998
01:41:24,347 --> 01:41:26,347
Speaker 23: But we took him to Ellieslie on Monday and he

1999
01:41:26,427 --> 01:41:27,827
Speaker 23: had a look at the course proper there and he

2000
01:41:27,827 --> 01:41:29,747
Speaker 23: seemed to have it really well and much strongly through

2001
01:41:29,747 --> 01:41:32,667
Speaker 23: the line. So you never know till race day, but

2002
01:41:32,667 --> 01:41:34,307
Speaker 23: he seemed to be quite naturalout.

2003
01:41:33,867 --> 01:41:35,747
Speaker 2: It, and then you get to the barrier drawer as well,

2004
01:41:35,747 --> 01:41:38,747
Speaker 2: which hasn't been overly kind. He has a ten. You'd

2005
01:41:38,747 --> 01:41:41,107
Speaker 2: probably prefer to be three or four places in. Will

2006
01:41:41,147 --> 01:41:44,947
Speaker 2: that affect things at all, absolutely, But we're.

2007
01:41:44,787 --> 01:41:48,267
Speaker 23: An optimistic bunch off hazes, so it could be worse

2008
01:41:48,547 --> 01:41:51,707
Speaker 23: happy with ten. So I think there's a bit of

2009
01:41:51,707 --> 01:41:53,547
Speaker 23: speed outside, so we should be able to bow forward

2010
01:41:53,547 --> 01:41:55,947
Speaker 23: and hopefully Nicky d is able to give him the

2011
01:41:55,987 --> 01:41:56,507
Speaker 23: other race.

2012
01:41:56,987 --> 01:41:59,867
Speaker 2: You talked before about Evaporate being the third horse you've

2013
01:41:59,867 --> 01:42:02,187
Speaker 2: brought over, do you, fellows though New Zealand are starting

2014
01:42:02,227 --> 01:42:07,347
Speaker 2: to become part of the Australian racing ecosystem one hundred percent.

2015
01:42:07,827 --> 01:42:10,067
Speaker 23: Look, we hadn't troubled the horses New Zealand for years

2016
01:42:10,107 --> 01:42:13,187
Speaker 23: and it just shows when the prize money is on

2017
01:42:13,267 --> 01:42:16,547
Speaker 23: the offer, we will come and it's really good for

2018
01:42:16,587 --> 01:42:19,347
Speaker 23: our owners. We've got all the Evaporate owners here, they've

2019
01:42:19,347 --> 01:42:22,467
Speaker 23: had a really good week and we're racing it. The

2020
01:42:22,507 --> 01:42:25,667
Speaker 23: prize money is outstanding. It's good enough for us to

2021
01:42:25,707 --> 01:42:27,227
Speaker 23: not go to the traditional path to go on with

2022
01:42:27,227 --> 01:42:29,147
Speaker 23: the Australian guineas, where Evaporate would have been short in

2023
01:42:29,187 --> 01:42:31,267
Speaker 23: the market and very hard to beat because it's just

2024
01:42:31,547 --> 01:42:35,627
Speaker 23: a lot more money a week later. So yeah, I

2025
01:42:35,667 --> 01:42:37,867
Speaker 23: think New Zealand racing is in a really healthy state.

2026
01:42:38,307 --> 01:42:40,547
Speaker 2: So you're here for our cash. Basically, you're here to

2027
01:42:40,587 --> 01:42:42,147
Speaker 2: take our cash.

2028
01:42:42,187 --> 01:42:44,587
Speaker 23: Well, you have been the tea weeds have been coming

2029
01:42:44,587 --> 01:42:46,227
Speaker 23: over and taking ours for years, so we thought.

2030
01:42:46,107 --> 01:42:47,107
Speaker 21: We might repay the favor.

2031
01:42:47,347 --> 01:42:50,067
Speaker 2: Fair enough, too, fair enough too, it's great to have you.

2032
01:42:50,147 --> 01:42:52,627
Speaker 2: Do you get nervous before your horse is run.

2033
01:42:54,107 --> 01:42:58,547
Speaker 23: Yeah, more excited because it's basically months and months of

2034
01:42:58,627 --> 01:43:04,307
Speaker 23: preparation coming to basically well two minutes of the race.

2035
01:43:04,387 --> 01:43:07,107
Speaker 23: So more excited than nervous because the work's been done

2036
01:43:07,147 --> 01:43:09,507
Speaker 23: and what will happen will what will be will be.

2037
01:43:10,307 --> 01:43:13,507
Speaker 2: And you must have a sense to you before they jump,

2038
01:43:13,587 --> 01:43:15,307
Speaker 2: or even on the day like today, you must have

2039
01:43:15,347 --> 01:43:17,547
Speaker 2: a sense when you wake up this morning that that

2040
01:43:17,627 --> 01:43:20,227
Speaker 2: evaporators is as good as he can be, that you've

2041
01:43:20,507 --> 01:43:22,307
Speaker 2: you've given him the ideal preparation.

2042
01:43:23,187 --> 01:43:27,547
Speaker 23: Yeah, Junior, who's traveled him over, he's stirred up, he's so,

2043
01:43:27,707 --> 01:43:29,107
Speaker 23: he's stirred up, his rock oud fit.

2044
01:43:29,347 --> 01:43:30,027
Speaker 21: He's traveled over.

2045
01:43:30,067 --> 01:43:31,867
Speaker 23: Well, it was bright and well, and he did his

2046
01:43:31,907 --> 01:43:35,427
Speaker 23: fourteen's yesterday it's lick to been this morning. All things

2047
01:43:35,427 --> 01:43:38,547
Speaker 23: going well, but everything cross that maintains that because twenty

2048
01:43:38,587 --> 01:43:40,227
Speaker 23: four hours time.

2049
01:43:40,307 --> 01:43:43,227
Speaker 21: But yeah, very happy to us.

2050
01:43:43,987 --> 01:43:46,147
Speaker 2: Do you feel like his best days are still ahead

2051
01:43:46,187 --> 01:43:46,547
Speaker 2: of him?

2052
01:43:47,507 --> 01:43:47,747
Speaker 8: Oh?

2053
01:43:47,907 --> 01:43:51,227
Speaker 23: Sure, he's only just beginning, so hopefully this is ship

2054
01:43:51,227 --> 01:43:51,827
Speaker 23: of the iceberg.

2055
01:43:52,747 --> 01:43:55,427
Speaker 2: Well, all the best this afternoon, JD. I hope it

2056
01:43:55,467 --> 01:43:57,827
Speaker 2: goes well for you. It's a very exciting day elnestly

2057
01:43:57,947 --> 01:43:59,867
Speaker 2: not just for the MTB key we but the other

2058
01:43:59,947 --> 01:44:01,827
Speaker 2: races as well. Appreciate you taking time for a chat

2059
01:44:01,867 --> 01:44:02,347
Speaker 2: and all the best.

2060
01:44:02,467 --> 01:44:03,467
Speaker 21: Beautiful thank you, no.

2061
01:44:03,467 --> 01:44:05,507
Speaker 2: Thank you Matte JD. Hayes there one of the three

2062
01:44:05,547 --> 01:44:09,987
Speaker 2: Hayes brothers that trains evaporate the favorite for this afternoon's

2063
01:44:10,227 --> 01:44:13,987
Speaker 2: enzb Kiwi over fifteen hundred meters for three year old's

2064
01:44:14,307 --> 01:44:16,627
Speaker 2: four and a half million dollars in prize money that

2065
01:44:16,707 --> 01:44:19,707
Speaker 2: jumps at around four point thirty two this afternoon. Part

2066
01:44:19,787 --> 01:44:23,627
Speaker 2: of a jam pack schedule, a glittering schedule on champions

2067
01:44:23,747 --> 01:44:27,667
Speaker 2: Day at allesleie Bang on half past two week all

2068
01:44:27,747 --> 01:44:32,187
Speaker 2: weekends for it. A big upset in the first round

2069
01:44:32,387 --> 01:44:37,267
Speaker 2: of this week's New Zealand Squash Open in christ Church's

2070
01:44:37,467 --> 01:44:38,787
Speaker 2: gold Back and there you go.

2071
01:44:39,227 --> 01:44:46,147
Speaker 22: What on absolutely immaculate performance from Holly Dunbar.

2072
01:44:46,347 --> 01:44:49,787
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wellington teenager tournament wild card and world number two

2073
01:44:49,867 --> 01:44:54,307
Speaker 2: fifty five Oli Dunbar stunning world number fifty four Ruey

2074
01:44:54,387 --> 01:44:58,067
Speaker 2: Suarez from Portugal three games to one. It meant he

2075
01:44:58,107 --> 01:45:01,667
Speaker 2: faced third seed and world number twelve ian yal Ng

2076
01:45:01,907 --> 01:45:03,547
Speaker 2: in the second round, where he put up a great

2077
01:45:03,587 --> 01:45:07,347
Speaker 2: fight before going down in three sets. As well as

2078
01:45:07,347 --> 01:45:10,947
Speaker 2: congratulations on a pretty special few days for you allie.

2079
01:45:11,227 --> 01:45:13,227
Speaker 2: When did you find out first of all that you'd

2080
01:45:13,267 --> 01:45:16,467
Speaker 2: be included in the New Zealand Open as a wild card?

2081
01:45:16,907 --> 01:45:19,987
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, well thank you. I got a call from

2082
01:45:20,027 --> 01:45:25,707
Speaker 9: the national coach about a couple about end of December.

2083
01:45:25,787 --> 01:45:27,307
Speaker 9: He gave me a ring and told me I'll be

2084
01:45:27,347 --> 01:45:30,547
Speaker 9: the wildcatter. Yeah, there was a really cool experience or

2085
01:45:30,547 --> 01:45:33,867
Speaker 9: the draw and yes, just keen to have a good crack.

2086
01:45:34,307 --> 01:45:36,707
Speaker 2: How did you feel going into your first round match?

2087
01:45:36,747 --> 01:45:39,827
Speaker 2: What were you know? How did you feel ahead of

2088
01:45:39,867 --> 01:45:40,507
Speaker 2: your first game?

2089
01:45:41,507 --> 01:45:43,507
Speaker 9: Yeah? I felt felt good, you know, nothing to lose,

2090
01:45:43,587 --> 01:45:46,787
Speaker 9: no pressure like obviously being a wildcard, I'm not expected,

2091
01:45:46,947 --> 01:45:49,227
Speaker 9: not expected to win, so it was good. All the

2092
01:45:49,227 --> 01:45:52,227
Speaker 9: pressure was on him. I just thought just try to

2093
01:45:52,227 --> 01:45:52,827
Speaker 9: play my game.

2094
01:45:52,947 --> 01:45:56,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, at what point in the match did you feel

2095
01:45:56,067 --> 01:45:57,627
Speaker 2: as though you might have a chance to win it?

2096
01:45:58,907 --> 01:46:03,427
Speaker 9: Well, after the first ship, I was up about eight

2097
01:46:03,427 --> 01:46:05,907
Speaker 9: to four in the first set, I think, and about

2098
01:46:05,907 --> 01:46:09,187
Speaker 9: then all right, going to keep doing what you're doing

2099
01:46:09,227 --> 01:46:10,707
Speaker 9: and might have a good shot here.

2100
01:46:11,587 --> 01:46:14,067
Speaker 2: Did you How difficult is it to look across the

2101
01:46:14,107 --> 01:46:16,227
Speaker 2: court and say, okay, well it's the world number fifty four.

2102
01:46:16,867 --> 01:46:18,867
Speaker 2: I'm two fifty five in the world, so here's a

2103
01:46:18,867 --> 01:46:22,787
Speaker 2: bloke two hundred places above me in the world rankings, Like,

2104
01:46:23,147 --> 01:46:26,827
Speaker 2: how do you not get overawed in a situation like that?

2105
01:46:28,547 --> 01:46:31,387
Speaker 9: Just I've just tried to stay focused on my game plan,

2106
01:46:31,587 --> 01:46:34,187
Speaker 9: just try and keep things simple, stay in the monument

2107
01:46:34,667 --> 01:46:36,827
Speaker 9: the big thing, not think about the end result.

2108
01:46:37,787 --> 01:46:39,587
Speaker 2: What did you do particularly well that night?

2109
01:46:39,587 --> 01:46:43,427
Speaker 9: Do you think I think I had found my targets

2110
01:46:43,467 --> 01:46:46,467
Speaker 9: really well. It's played quite accurate, which was good. Always

2111
01:46:46,467 --> 01:46:49,187
Speaker 9: helps me, especially on a glass quart it's a bit

2112
01:46:49,187 --> 01:46:52,027
Speaker 9: different to a traditional court. So yeah, it was good

2113
01:46:52,067 --> 01:46:54,387
Speaker 9: to you've got that right from the start.

2114
01:46:54,947 --> 01:46:56,907
Speaker 2: How are the emotions when you secured the one?

2115
01:46:57,867 --> 01:47:00,147
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I felt great, Probably one of the best

2116
01:47:00,187 --> 01:47:02,267
Speaker 9: feelings I've ever had, So yeah, it was it was

2117
01:47:02,307 --> 01:47:04,227
Speaker 9: awesome and had to crowd behind me as well, so

2118
01:47:04,267 --> 01:47:04,707
Speaker 9: it was good.

2119
01:47:04,987 --> 01:47:07,427
Speaker 2: It must be quite nice playing on a home court.

2120
01:47:07,467 --> 01:47:09,907
Speaker 2: What's the venue like there at the because they basically

2121
01:47:09,907 --> 01:47:12,667
Speaker 2: put a glass court, a glass court in the middle

2122
01:47:12,667 --> 01:47:13,987
Speaker 2: of a theater. Is that right?

2123
01:47:14,667 --> 01:47:17,667
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. So it's at the Isaac Theater Royal

2124
01:47:17,827 --> 01:47:21,507
Speaker 9: and crash shirt. So it was absolutely awesome, like one

2125
01:47:21,587 --> 01:47:24,067
Speaker 9: of the biggest crowds I've played in front of. And yeah,

2126
01:47:24,107 --> 01:47:27,547
Speaker 9: it was great. The theater looks awesome just itself. And

2127
01:47:27,587 --> 01:47:29,547
Speaker 9: then put a squash caught up on the stage. Is

2128
01:47:29,587 --> 01:47:32,027
Speaker 9: awesome that Not many of the players have played in

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01:47:32,067 --> 01:47:34,067
Speaker 9: anything like that before, so it's come.

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01:47:34,427 --> 01:47:37,707
Speaker 2: How was your opponent Ruy Suarez? Afterwards? Was he was

2131
01:47:37,747 --> 01:47:38,747
Speaker 2: he humble and defeat?

2132
01:47:39,707 --> 01:47:41,867
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was humble and defeat. Yeh, look it well,

2133
01:47:43,267 --> 01:47:45,467
Speaker 9: well it could be quite tough for some people, but yeah,

2134
01:47:45,707 --> 01:47:46,307
Speaker 9: he took it well.

2135
01:47:46,387 --> 01:47:47,067
Speaker 19: So that was good.

2136
01:47:47,587 --> 01:47:49,787
Speaker 2: And then you fit into a second round match against

2137
01:47:49,787 --> 01:47:52,827
Speaker 2: the world number twelve. How do you reflect on on

2138
01:47:52,867 --> 01:47:54,947
Speaker 2: the way you performed in that match?

2139
01:47:56,067 --> 01:47:58,067
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think I played too poorly, Like the

2140
01:47:58,107 --> 01:48:02,147
Speaker 9: score line wasn't that close, but I felt I played okay,

2141
01:48:02,307 --> 01:48:05,947
Speaker 9: just experience of the big part was specially pipping up

2142
01:48:05,987 --> 01:48:08,427
Speaker 9: to that. Will also hopefully get a bit more experienced

2143
01:48:08,427 --> 01:48:11,867
Speaker 9: over the next few years and improved few aspects of

2144
01:48:11,867 --> 01:48:14,267
Speaker 9: my game and hopefully get to that level.

2145
01:48:14,707 --> 01:48:17,507
Speaker 2: Because I watched some of that game and there seem

2146
01:48:17,547 --> 01:48:19,267
Speaker 2: to be a lot of rallies that you were staying in.

2147
01:48:19,667 --> 01:48:21,387
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't as though it was a complete

2148
01:48:21,707 --> 01:48:24,027
Speaker 2: whitewash by any stretch of the imagination. Do you take

2149
01:48:24,067 --> 01:48:25,667
Speaker 2: a bit of quite a bit of heart from the

2150
01:48:25,667 --> 01:48:27,707
Speaker 2: fact that that you, you know, you didn't just lie

2151
01:48:27,747 --> 01:48:29,467
Speaker 2: down against one of the top players in the world.

2152
01:48:30,387 --> 01:48:34,067
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely. I spoke to national coach a host and

2153
01:48:34,107 --> 01:48:36,147
Speaker 9: he who thought it was a bit I thought I

2154
01:48:36,227 --> 01:48:39,227
Speaker 9: played well, you know then just all the helleys, you know,

2155
01:48:39,547 --> 01:48:42,787
Speaker 9: competing with him, but just he was just finishing them off. Beenner,

2156
01:48:42,867 --> 01:48:45,547
Speaker 9: which is a big part, especially at the next level.

2157
01:48:46,267 --> 01:48:50,107
Speaker 2: Paul Cole, of course is top seed, defending champion. Is

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01:48:50,147 --> 01:48:54,747
Speaker 2: he someone who, as your squash journey has sort of started,

2159
01:48:54,787 --> 01:48:55,867
Speaker 2: that you look up to.

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01:48:56,827 --> 01:48:59,107
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely. I remember watching him when I was younger,

2161
01:48:59,187 --> 01:49:01,707
Speaker 9: and like in the early hours of the morning, him

2162
01:49:01,707 --> 01:49:04,627
Speaker 9: playing in finals overseas and yeah, getting to know him

2163
01:49:04,627 --> 01:49:06,587
Speaker 9: over the past few months have been really cool. He's

2164
01:49:06,587 --> 01:49:10,147
Speaker 9: a great guy and obviously very successful squash player over

2165
01:49:10,187 --> 01:49:11,707
Speaker 9: his career and more done.

2166
01:49:12,027 --> 01:49:14,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you spent a bit of time, I mean,

2167
01:49:14,067 --> 01:49:16,107
Speaker 2: you're both in the same tournament, you're both in the

2168
01:49:16,147 --> 01:49:18,107
Speaker 2: same city at the moment. Have you had the chance

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01:49:18,107 --> 01:49:20,027
Speaker 2: to spend any time with them in the last week

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01:49:20,107 --> 01:49:20,307
Speaker 2: or so?

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01:49:21,187 --> 01:49:23,067
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've spent a bit of time with him, had

2172
01:49:23,067 --> 01:49:25,547
Speaker 9: a couple of media things to do with him, and yeah,

2173
01:49:25,547 --> 01:49:27,907
Speaker 9: I had a couple hits of them which have been great,

2174
01:49:28,027 --> 01:49:30,787
Speaker 9: giving me some advice and it's been really good gain

2175
01:49:30,867 --> 01:49:31,507
Speaker 9: to know him better.

2176
01:49:31,827 --> 01:49:35,507
Speaker 2: Good stuff. So are you now a full time squash professional?

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01:49:35,587 --> 01:49:36,627
Speaker 2: Is this your job now?

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01:49:37,747 --> 01:49:37,987
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2179
01:49:38,067 --> 01:49:41,387
Speaker 9: Well basically do a bit of work, pack and save

2180
01:49:41,507 --> 01:49:43,867
Speaker 9: on the on the side and make a bit of money,

2181
01:49:44,027 --> 01:49:45,947
Speaker 9: but yeah, most of the time.

2182
01:49:46,027 --> 01:49:46,947
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2183
01:49:46,987 --> 01:49:49,627
Speaker 2: And so what does the next twelve months look like

2184
01:49:49,867 --> 01:49:52,027
Speaker 2: for you? Then, Ollie? Are you going to be traveling

2185
01:49:52,067 --> 01:49:53,867
Speaker 2: far and wide? Have you charted out what the year

2186
01:49:53,907 --> 01:49:54,627
Speaker 2: looks like for you?

2187
01:49:55,587 --> 01:49:58,427
Speaker 9: Yeah? So the next twelve months, well, the nixt probably

2188
01:49:58,587 --> 01:50:01,667
Speaker 9: until the end of July of the wording the Champs

2189
01:50:01,667 --> 01:50:04,587
Speaker 9: in Egypt, which is a big focus for me. Try

2190
01:50:04,627 --> 01:50:07,707
Speaker 9: and get a middle there, so overseas for about a

2191
01:50:07,747 --> 01:50:11,227
Speaker 9: month beforehand to England just to get some training over there,

2192
01:50:11,827 --> 01:50:14,827
Speaker 9: and then play the World Unior Champs in Egypt and

2193
01:50:14,867 --> 01:50:16,787
Speaker 9: then I come home and regroup for a bit and

2194
01:50:16,787 --> 01:50:19,107
Speaker 9: then get stuck into the senior tour.

2195
01:50:19,587 --> 01:50:21,947
Speaker 2: Outstanding. How did you become involved in the game? When

2196
01:50:21,947 --> 01:50:23,147
Speaker 2: did you first pick up a record?

2197
01:50:24,467 --> 01:50:26,507
Speaker 9: First picked up a record when I was probably about

2198
01:50:26,987 --> 01:50:29,787
Speaker 9: seven or something like that and my parents just took

2199
01:50:29,827 --> 01:50:33,707
Speaker 9: me down to the Kendala Squash Club and yeah, just

2200
01:50:34,307 --> 01:50:36,267
Speaker 9: played ever since. Both of them played.

2201
01:50:36,307 --> 01:50:40,427
Speaker 2: So yeah, when did it become something you started? Well,

2202
01:50:40,547 --> 01:50:43,747
Speaker 2: A realizing you were quite good at and B started

2203
01:50:43,747 --> 01:50:46,547
Speaker 2: to take quite seriously and devote a lot more time

2204
01:50:46,587 --> 01:50:47,467
Speaker 2: to What age would you.

2205
01:50:47,467 --> 01:50:50,707
Speaker 9: Have been Well, I played it well since I was

2206
01:50:50,747 --> 01:50:53,987
Speaker 9: seven or so, but I played other sports like cricket

2207
01:50:54,027 --> 01:50:58,667
Speaker 9: and football until I was about fifteen maybe, so yeah,

2208
01:50:58,667 --> 01:51:01,307
Speaker 9: when I was about fifteen, I started to focus a

2209
01:51:01,307 --> 01:51:04,667
Speaker 9: lot more on squash and yeah it's been good.

2210
01:51:04,947 --> 01:51:07,227
Speaker 2: Well, this has happened quite quickly then, because we're only

2211
01:51:07,227 --> 01:51:11,467
Speaker 2: talking about three years. So where are the improvements still

2212
01:51:11,467 --> 01:51:12,827
Speaker 2: to come in your game? What are you now two

2213
01:51:12,907 --> 01:51:15,267
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five in the world to really start

2214
01:51:15,307 --> 01:51:19,067
Speaker 2: making strides up the world rankings and to have success.

2215
01:51:19,147 --> 01:51:23,067
Speaker 2: What are the improvement areas that you're targeting at the moment.

2216
01:51:23,107 --> 01:51:28,147
Speaker 9: I'm targeting my short game and my attacking skills. I

2217
01:51:28,267 --> 01:51:30,827
Speaker 9: was like, like I said, I can compete in the

2218
01:51:30,907 --> 01:51:33,267
Speaker 9: rallies against the top guys that just finishing them off

2219
01:51:33,307 --> 01:51:36,587
Speaker 9: at a whole other level. And obviously fitness can always

2220
01:51:36,587 --> 01:51:39,267
Speaker 9: been through. You can always get fitter and physicality is

2221
01:51:39,307 --> 01:51:40,827
Speaker 9: a big thing at that level. Will be able to

2222
01:51:40,827 --> 01:51:43,067
Speaker 9: do play like that for a long time and the

2223
01:51:43,107 --> 01:51:45,547
Speaker 9: intensity of the top guys is really high.

2224
01:51:45,907 --> 01:51:48,547
Speaker 2: Indeed, what about patients, Ollie, do you have to be

2225
01:51:48,667 --> 01:51:51,427
Speaker 2: quite patient because these rallies? I mean most of us

2226
01:51:51,467 --> 01:51:53,387
Speaker 2: will never be in rallies as long as the ones

2227
01:51:53,427 --> 01:51:55,747
Speaker 2: that you'll run. But do you have to be patient

2228
01:51:55,787 --> 01:51:58,427
Speaker 2: and wait for the right opening to play that winner?

2229
01:51:59,227 --> 01:52:03,027
Speaker 9: Yeah? Mentally, there's also another area I need to focus on,

2230
01:52:03,147 --> 01:52:05,667
Speaker 9: like just workin into the right one, because it's like

2231
01:52:05,707 --> 01:52:09,387
Speaker 9: you say, it's easy to just there's one. I could

2232
01:52:09,387 --> 01:52:10,787
Speaker 9: go for it and then just go for it and

2233
01:52:11,107 --> 01:52:12,987
Speaker 9: might not be the right time or might not play

2234
01:52:12,987 --> 01:52:16,267
Speaker 9: the right shot. So yeah, just being patient is a

2235
01:52:16,267 --> 01:52:19,627
Speaker 9: big Obviously, that Paul was very patient and wait for

2236
01:52:19,667 --> 01:52:21,747
Speaker 9: the right one, and yeah, it's a it's a really

2237
01:52:21,787 --> 01:52:22,187
Speaker 9: big part.

2238
01:52:22,307 --> 01:52:22,907
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2239
01:52:22,987 --> 01:52:25,707
Speaker 2: And squash is now an Olympic sport or will be

2240
01:52:26,027 --> 01:52:28,867
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles twenty twenty eight and beyond. Have you

2241
01:52:28,867 --> 01:52:31,987
Speaker 2: thought about what it might be like to represent your

2242
01:52:31,987 --> 01:52:33,587
Speaker 2: country yet in Olympic Games?

2243
01:52:34,427 --> 01:52:36,587
Speaker 9: Yeah, that would be awesome. You know, it's a big

2244
01:52:36,627 --> 01:52:39,347
Speaker 9: goal of mine to make you the twenty twenty eight

2245
01:52:39,387 --> 01:52:43,387
Speaker 9: Olympics or hopefully twenty twenty or twenty thirty two. So yeah,

2246
01:52:43,427 --> 01:52:45,587
Speaker 9: that would be That would be awesome. You know, depennacle

2247
01:52:45,667 --> 01:52:48,227
Speaker 9: of every sport in the world, So to be able

2248
01:52:48,227 --> 01:52:49,347
Speaker 9: to do that would be awesome.

2249
01:52:50,107 --> 01:52:53,667
Speaker 2: And you're eighteen now. I don't know how old Paul Cohlers,

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01:52:53,667 --> 01:52:55,427
Speaker 2: I get the feeling is in his late twenties. Now,

2251
01:52:55,587 --> 01:52:57,947
Speaker 2: do you feel as though you're like win? Is the

2252
01:52:58,387 --> 01:53:00,707
Speaker 2: win is the typical peak for a for a male

2253
01:53:00,747 --> 01:53:01,427
Speaker 2: squash player.

2254
01:53:02,627 --> 01:53:02,827
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2255
01:53:02,907 --> 01:53:05,707
Speaker 9: Probably, It varies for a lot of players, but Paul,

2256
01:53:05,747 --> 01:53:09,867
Speaker 9: I think he's thirty two now thirty three maybe, so

2257
01:53:09,907 --> 01:53:14,627
Speaker 9: he's like he's still in physically great condition like obviously,

2258
01:53:14,827 --> 01:53:16,627
Speaker 9: and a lot of the top players. It can be

2259
01:53:16,667 --> 01:53:21,147
Speaker 9: anywhere from really twenty seven to thirty two or something

2260
01:53:21,307 --> 01:53:24,267
Speaker 9: that's quite yeah, convariant. There's some great players who are

2261
01:53:24,307 --> 01:53:27,507
Speaker 9: younger as well, in their early twenties as well.

2262
01:53:27,547 --> 01:53:30,667
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you might have another fifteen years of this,

2263
01:53:32,427 --> 01:53:36,267
Speaker 2: you know, I could imagine could become all consuming. What

2264
01:53:36,627 --> 01:53:39,307
Speaker 2: do you do to relax when you're not hitting a

2265
01:53:39,307 --> 01:53:41,307
Speaker 2: squash bull I've.

2266
01:53:41,547 --> 01:53:44,827
Speaker 9: Spent time with my family is a big thing. Play

2267
01:53:44,867 --> 01:53:46,547
Speaker 9: a bit of golf as well, which is good to

2268
01:53:46,587 --> 01:53:50,547
Speaker 9: get outside obviously squashes indoors. Yeah, so it's good to

2269
01:53:50,587 --> 01:53:53,947
Speaker 9: get outside and see a bit more sunlight, which is good.

2270
01:53:55,467 --> 01:53:58,067
Speaker 2: Tremendous Well, it was a great thrill for a lot

2271
01:53:58,067 --> 01:54:00,547
Speaker 2: of squash fans around the country to watch you win

2272
01:54:00,587 --> 01:54:03,747
Speaker 2: that first round match during the week. Oli, A terrific

2273
01:54:03,787 --> 01:54:08,147
Speaker 2: achievement for you, the first of many significant achievements. I'm

2274
01:54:08,187 --> 01:54:09,947
Speaker 2: sure to come all the best for the rest of

2275
01:54:09,987 --> 01:54:12,387
Speaker 2: your stay in New Zealand and towards the World Junior Champs.

2276
01:54:12,627 --> 01:54:14,867
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the chance to chet to you. Yes,

2277
01:54:14,987 --> 01:54:17,387
Speaker 2: thank you very much, thank you for joining us. Oli Dunbar.

2278
01:54:17,427 --> 01:54:20,547
Speaker 2: There eighteen year old Oli Dunbar, who yeah, did something

2279
01:54:20,587 --> 01:54:22,947
Speaker 2: pretty special during the week in his first crack at

2280
01:54:22,947 --> 01:54:24,787
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Squash Open, a win over the world

2281
01:54:24,867 --> 01:54:27,747
Speaker 2: number fifty four. He's world number two fifty five, so

2282
01:54:27,787 --> 01:54:30,027
Speaker 2: that gives you an idea of just what a significant

2283
01:54:30,027 --> 01:54:32,947
Speaker 2: achievement that is. It's a name to remember. Oli Dunbar

2284
01:54:33,427 --> 01:54:36,467
Speaker 2: semi final day at the New Zealand Squash Open and

2285
01:54:36,587 --> 01:54:39,387
Speaker 2: Paul Cole, the top seed and defending champion, is up

2286
01:54:39,427 --> 01:54:46,987
Speaker 2: against the Italian player A Baptiste Missotti. Baptiste Massotti is

2287
01:54:46,987 --> 01:54:52,547
Speaker 2: is his opponent, and then Muhammad L Shorbagi up against

2288
01:54:52,547 --> 01:54:55,987
Speaker 2: the third seed Ijan Yao Ing in the second of

2289
01:54:56,027 --> 01:54:59,827
Speaker 2: the semi finals. The final is tomorrow, nineteen away from three.

2290
01:54:59,827 --> 01:55:01,707
Speaker 2: You're going to take a break, then get you to Dunedin.

2291
01:55:01,747 --> 01:55:04,667
Speaker 2: Were heard from Olivia mctaggett a short time ago ahead

2292
01:55:04,667 --> 01:55:07,067
Speaker 2: of the women's pole vault. We'll get a wider view

2293
01:55:07,067 --> 01:55:09,107
Speaker 2: of the National Track and Field Champs when we come back.

2294
01:55:09,107 --> 01:55:11,307
Speaker 2: Some of the key events to look out for over

2295
01:55:11,427 --> 01:55:14,107
Speaker 2: the next few hours. Nick Buley is our man in Duneda.

2296
01:55:14,227 --> 01:55:15,587
Speaker 2: He joins us on the show after this.

2297
01:55:16,347 --> 01:55:20,427
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions after Turf Weekend Sport with Jason Paine

2298
01:55:20,507 --> 01:55:21,067
Speaker 1: and GJ.

2299
01:55:21,267 --> 01:55:23,787
Speaker 12: Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home.

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01:55:23,747 --> 01:55:28,267
Speaker 2: Builder News Dogs V sixteen away from three. As I

2301
01:55:28,307 --> 01:55:31,107
Speaker 2: mentioned before the break, the New Zealand Track and Field

2302
01:55:31,187 --> 01:55:34,347
Speaker 2: Champs are on in Dunedin this weekend. In fact, I've

2303
01:55:34,347 --> 01:55:35,947
Speaker 2: been gone for a couple of days. They've got some

2304
01:55:36,107 --> 01:55:38,867
Speaker 2: big events to look forward to this afternoon and again tomorrow.

2305
01:55:39,547 --> 01:55:41,667
Speaker 2: Part of the coverage is one of our colleagues here

2306
01:55:41,707 --> 01:55:45,587
Speaker 2: at ZB or one of my colleagues, Nick Buley Weather report.

2307
01:55:45,667 --> 01:55:49,147
Speaker 2: First of all, Nick Hower conditions Kita party.

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01:55:49,307 --> 01:55:52,267
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's pretty chilly for March, but most of us

2309
01:55:52,587 --> 01:55:54,347
Speaker 24: in this part of the country are pretty used to

2310
01:55:54,387 --> 01:55:56,787
Speaker 24: that sort of twelve with third end degrees is the

2311
01:55:56,867 --> 01:55:59,467
Speaker 24: high at the moment. A lot of catman do jackets

2312
01:55:59,507 --> 01:56:03,067
Speaker 24: being warning and around the Grand sand and the athletes

2313
01:56:03,107 --> 01:56:04,747
Speaker 24: trying to stay warm as well. We have had a

2314
01:56:04,747 --> 01:56:07,427
Speaker 24: couple of showers in the last hour or so, but

2315
01:56:07,587 --> 01:56:10,667
Speaker 24: as things stand here at the Caledonian Ground, while it

2316
01:56:10,667 --> 01:56:13,907
Speaker 24: looks a bit murky and gray, no rain to report,

2317
01:56:13,907 --> 01:56:14,827
Speaker 24: which is great news.

2318
01:56:15,107 --> 01:56:16,587
Speaker 2: That is great news. Or on Lea's look at some

2319
01:56:16,627 --> 01:56:18,187
Speaker 2: of the key events which are coming up over the

2320
01:56:18,187 --> 01:56:20,867
Speaker 2: next few hours. I see the one hundred meters heats

2321
01:56:20,987 --> 01:56:23,707
Speaker 2: are set to go for both women and men. After

2322
01:56:23,747 --> 01:56:26,347
Speaker 2: three o'clock we got all the begun. Zoe Hobbs, is there,

2323
01:56:26,427 --> 01:56:29,827
Speaker 2: Tian Weelpton. You'd expect those two to not exactly romp

2324
01:56:29,947 --> 01:56:31,387
Speaker 2: to victory, but be favorites.

2325
01:56:32,227 --> 01:56:35,427
Speaker 24: Oh certainly, yep. No, that's five past three. That opens

2326
01:56:35,427 --> 01:56:37,947
Speaker 24: our coverage on the live stream with Zoe Hobbs and

2327
01:56:37,947 --> 01:56:41,907
Speaker 24: Tian Welton. As you mentioned, Tian within two hundreds of

2328
01:56:41,907 --> 01:56:44,587
Speaker 24: the second of the national record held by Idion Osey

2329
01:56:44,627 --> 01:56:47,267
Speaker 24: and Kittya when he ran at the Sir Graham Douglas

2330
01:56:47,267 --> 01:56:50,747
Speaker 24: International about a month or so ago. Zoe Hobbs, what's

2331
01:56:50,747 --> 01:56:53,027
Speaker 24: Sarah action? A couple of weeks back at the ITM,

2332
01:56:53,067 --> 01:56:55,587
Speaker 24: the International Track Meet and christ Church and she looked

2333
01:56:55,627 --> 01:56:58,307
Speaker 24: in really strong form term and what was a swiry

2334
01:56:58,387 --> 01:57:01,547
Speaker 24: old day there in christ Church is southwest, So expect

2335
01:57:01,787 --> 01:57:04,587
Speaker 24: those two come later in the evening to close our

2336
01:57:04,627 --> 01:57:07,747
Speaker 24: program for day three. Be right there at the finish

2337
01:57:07,787 --> 01:57:09,587
Speaker 24: for out the one hundred meter finals.

2338
01:57:09,907 --> 01:57:11,947
Speaker 2: Now I see another name in the one hundred meter

2339
01:57:11,947 --> 01:57:15,027
Speaker 2: for men is Tommy Tapoone. Now I believe that might

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Speaker 2: be the son of Roger Topooni, the former high jump champion.

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Speaker 2: Have I got that right?

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Speaker 24: I believe you do. I believe you do. Yeah, Tommy

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Speaker 24: Tapooney is quite an all rounder on the track. You

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Speaker 24: can equally as good over the two hundred and the

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Speaker 24: four hundred as well. Looks like you will focus just

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Speaker 24: primarily on the one hundred today we've got a men's

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Speaker 24: four hundred meter final race. A little bit later on,

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Speaker 24: speaking of national records, a lex reveel Lewis went super

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Speaker 24: close to breaking a national record that stood the best

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Speaker 24: part of a quarter of a century two hundreds of

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Speaker 24: a second. He was forty six or eleven, So looking

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Speaker 24: forward to seeing lex reveel Lewis back in action. But yeah,

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Speaker 24: Tommy to Pernie, he'll be there or thereabouts, at least

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01:57:53,067 --> 01:57:53,867
Speaker 24: keeping to yard.

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Speaker 8: Honest, all right.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of our famous names, my eagle Ie in fact,

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Speaker 2: not my Eglee, you've pointed it out to me. Has

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Speaker 2: picked out the surname Warddell, Madeline Wardell. She'd have pretty

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01:58:07,907 --> 01:58:10,307
Speaker 2: good jeans, wouldn't she. A couple of parents who are

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Speaker 2: fairly handy rowers, and a granddad who's an all black.

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Speaker 2: She runs four hundred.

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Speaker 24: Meters, she does run the four hundred. The one lapper

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Speaker 24: for some one of the hardest events on the track

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Speaker 24: that Madeline Woodell is making it look easy so far.

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Speaker 24: She went over and represented New Zealand the Under twenty

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Speaker 24: World Championships in Peru last year, said all sorts of

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Speaker 24: age group national records. But she's gunning for a senior

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Speaker 24: title at just the age of seventeen, So that's going

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01:58:36,587 --> 01:58:40,107
Speaker 24: to be a really interesting race, that is at six

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Speaker 24: six going up against Izzy Neil herself a very accomplished

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Speaker 24: four hundred meter runner. So you look out for Madeline Widow.

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Speaker 24: And of course we've got the fifteen hundred meters heats

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Speaker 24: today to Piney. The fifteen hundred final will be held

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Speaker 24: tomorrow featuring will feature I'm sure Sam Tana. But speaking

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01:58:59,147 --> 01:59:03,467
Speaker 24: of SAMs, this young teenage sensation and Sam Routh, another

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01:59:03,547 --> 01:59:06,147
Speaker 24: coming through the ranks just fifteen years of age, owns

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Speaker 24: the the world's best time in fifteen hundred meters four

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Speaker 24: a fifteen year old for the fifteen hundred meters. He

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01:59:13,827 --> 01:59:16,187
Speaker 24: is something to behold and looking forward to seeing him

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Speaker 24: run in the heats in a short time. So while

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Speaker 24: we've got your hamous curs and your Jack o'gills, and

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01:59:21,427 --> 01:59:23,667
Speaker 24: your Tom Walsh's and your lives and McCartney's there's some

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01:59:24,267 --> 01:59:27,467
Speaker 24: encouraging youngsters coming through that we should be getting excited about.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I mean you were involved in the coverage

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01:59:30,707 --> 01:59:33,467
Speaker 2: of the Olympic Games last year for Gold Sport News Talks,

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Speaker 2: MBI Hout Radio. It just feels like there's momentum behind

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01:59:38,147 --> 01:59:39,947
Speaker 2: track and field in New Zealand at the moment. I

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01:59:39,987 --> 01:59:42,467
Speaker 2: mean you mentioned some of the names there, but some

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Speaker 2: of the up and comers as well. There's a Commonwealth

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01:59:44,307 --> 01:59:47,627
Speaker 2: Games next year, another Olympic cycle is underway. I don't know,

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01:59:47,947 --> 01:59:49,747
Speaker 2: does it feel as though track and field is getting

2392
01:59:49,747 --> 01:59:52,947
Speaker 2: some pretty good traction to you at the moment, so

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01:59:53,067 --> 01:59:54,507
Speaker 2: we did there, Look.

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Speaker 24: I would have to agree, although you know, I very

2395
01:59:56,827 --> 01:59:58,947
Speaker 24: much have been in an around the sport over the

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01:59:59,027 --> 02:00:02,987
Speaker 24: last months and look, just based on interest not only

2397
02:00:02,987 --> 02:00:05,987
Speaker 24: from the athletics community, but just the casual sports fan

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02:00:06,467 --> 02:00:08,987
Speaker 24: on the back of the Paris Olympics and Paralympics let's

2399
02:00:08,987 --> 02:00:12,267
Speaker 24: not forget you like your Anna Grimaldi's Mitchell Joints, Will

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02:00:12,347 --> 02:00:16,107
Speaker 24: Steedman doing fantastic things on the track as well. It

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Speaker 24: does feel like, yeah, momentum is building. They've got new

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02:00:20,947 --> 02:00:23,667
Speaker 24: relatively new CEO and Cam Mitchell, who I know you

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02:00:23,747 --> 02:00:26,867
Speaker 24: know from cricket Wellington days, who's really trying to elevate

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02:00:26,907 --> 02:00:30,307
Speaker 24: the sports and get it on in front of more eyeballs,

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02:00:30,307 --> 02:00:34,147
Speaker 24: et cetera. But yeah, in terms of depth, when I look,

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Speaker 24: you know, not only is it the Dame Valerie Adams

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02:00:37,707 --> 02:00:40,667
Speaker 24: is and the Nicholas Willis is of a decade ago,

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Speaker 24: that just seems across the board, whether it's on the

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Speaker 24: track or on the field, some really encouraging performances and

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Speaker 24: that's being backed up, it's fair to say. So, you know,

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Speaker 24: there's a lot of youngsters in around that twenty age

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Speaker 24: bracket who are over in the American collegiate system at

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02:00:56,667 --> 02:00:58,947
Speaker 24: the moment too piney. So yeah, it's certainly a sport

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02:00:58,987 --> 02:01:01,067
Speaker 24: that feels like it is in very good health.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exciting times. Final question if you didn't know me,

2416
02:01:04,587 --> 02:01:07,827
Speaker 2: but you saw me walk in to the Track and

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Speaker 2: Field Champs there in Juneeda, and what would you assume

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02:01:11,587 --> 02:01:13,147
Speaker 2: my specialist event would be?

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Speaker 8: Well, look, I think.

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Speaker 24: Given your heights, piny, you might go okay at the

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Speaker 24: four hundred hurdles che which is pretty pretty tricky going.

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Speaker 24: But but luck, I don't know, one might have to

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Speaker 24: get you down to the Capitol Classic in Wellington next year.

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Speaker 24: I'm just looking at Sarah Cowley Ross as part of

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Speaker 24: our coverage, saying maybe the javelin.

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Speaker 2: JEF some big long levers for the javelin.

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Speaker 10: Look.

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Speaker 2: I think you and Sarah I know very well, both

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Speaker 2: know that I'm much better at spectating and perhaps commenting

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Speaker 2: than i am competing. But I'm looking forward to your

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Speaker 2: coverage on the on the live stream this afternoon. And

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Speaker 2: I guess you'll have to at some point get back

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Speaker 2: to Christ's for the rugby tomorrow, will.

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Speaker 20: You, certainly?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, it's a busy little weekend sort of when it

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02:01:59,547 --> 02:02:02,787
Speaker 24: rains at poor as areas, certainly in our in our industry, Piney,

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Speaker 24: I'm not going to complain of a lack of work,

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Speaker 24: but ye'll get back on the plane tomorrow more and

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02:02:06,427 --> 02:02:09,147
Speaker 24: then are really looking forward to the double hitter at

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02:02:09,147 --> 02:02:11,867
Speaker 24: Apollo Project Stadium in christ Is Mutteret two up against

2441
02:02:11,867 --> 02:02:15,627
Speaker 24: your Hurricanes power and then followed by some Sunday afternoon

2442
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Speaker 24: footy which is something of a rarity with the Crusader's

2443
02:02:17,787 --> 02:02:19,387
Speaker 24: host in the Red. So you can't wait for that,

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02:02:19,427 --> 02:02:21,907
Speaker 24: but firmly focused on the track in the field to.

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Speaker 2: Down I know you got to get on the live stream.

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02:02:24,107 --> 02:02:25,867
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, mate, call well and we might

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02:02:25,907 --> 02:02:27,507
Speaker 2: catch up tomorrow ahead of the rugby if we get

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Speaker 2: the chance.

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Speaker 24: Sounds good fining, Thank you, Thank you mate.

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Speaker 2: Nick Billy part of the coverage of Athletics New Zealand's

2451
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Speaker 2: live stream of the New Zealand Track and Field Champs

2452
02:02:35,987 --> 02:02:38,787
Speaker 2: and of course part of our coverage of rugby and

2453
02:02:38,867 --> 02:02:40,627
Speaker 2: all sorts of other sport as well. Yeah, he'll be

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Speaker 2: back on that plane and up to christ Church from

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Speaker 2: Dunedin to commentate some rugby tomorrow. But as he said,

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Speaker 2: and as we always say in our industry, if you're

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02:02:47,787 --> 02:02:51,347
Speaker 2: offered the opportunity to do something in the sports media industry,

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02:02:51,587 --> 02:02:53,987
Speaker 2: you pretty much take that opportunity. Eight away from three

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Speaker 2: News Talk's.

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Speaker 1: Headb breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every field

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason nine News Talk zenby.

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Speaker 2: Five to three Quick look at It to Weekend Sport tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Just after midday, Mark Mitchell, the Minister for Sport and Recreation,

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Speaker 2: joins us on the show. Will Central Government be pitching

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Speaker 2: in some money to get the America's cut back to Auckland?

2466
02:03:17,267 --> 02:03:20,387
Speaker 2: That and other questions around big events and how keen

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02:03:20,707 --> 02:03:24,227
Speaker 2: Central government is on helping get those big sporting events

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Speaker 2: into New Zealand. Gary Stead's on the show coach of

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Speaker 2: the black Caps headed tomorrow night's Champions Trophy final against India,

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Speaker 2: and lots more besides tomorrow, including lots of your contributions

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Speaker 2: to Tim Beverage on the show after or on the

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Speaker 2: radio after three o'clock with the Weekend Collective. Thank you

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02:03:39,667 --> 02:03:42,347
Speaker 2: for listening in huge thanks to Andy McDonald for pulling

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Speaker 2: the show together as per usual. Your reward, as per

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Speaker 2: usual is the exit song.

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Speaker 25: Yeah my pleasure, Piney, and the exit sign today is

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Speaker 25: Shania Twain. I feel like man, I feel like a woman.

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Speaker 25: Obviously International Women's Day, so happy International Women's Day to

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Speaker 25: you Piney and everyone, particularly to women though that's the

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Speaker 25: important thing.

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Speaker 2: I think a very good choice of song. We'll have

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Speaker 2: the last little bit of it as we celebrate Women's

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Speaker 2: Day and we will see tomorrow midday bucking.

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Speaker 13: Up by.

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Speaker 12: Man She Live warmer.

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