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Speaker 3: Well, a very very good morning and welcome along to
Speaker 3: the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with three Pete off
Speaker 3: Camp and we are here too. Basically, well, talk about
Speaker 3: your place. So if you've got a little project on,
Speaker 3: maybe you're doing some alterations, maybe you're doing some renovations,
Speaker 3: maybe you're just looking to the you know, the days
Speaker 3: are getting a bit shorter, it's a little bit cooler.
Speaker 3: I was going to say the rain has started, but
Speaker 3: realistically it hasn't anyway, not in this part of the country,
Speaker 3: and we're kind of getting a bit desperate for it
Speaker 3: to be fair. But we're thinking about, you know, what's
Speaker 3: it going to be like when the rain comes and
Speaker 3: the wind comes, and have we sorted out that window
Speaker 3: that doesn't quite close, or perhaps some downpipes that are
Speaker 3: not quite working as well as they should. So if
Speaker 3: you've got a project on and you'd like to talk
Speaker 3: about it, well, I'd love to listen. Oh eight hundred
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call nine two
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Speaker 3: you straight into the studio. And I've just logged into
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Speaker 3: it is Pete at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So
Speaker 3: Pete p E t E at newstalksb dot co dot nz.
Speaker 3: I trust you've had a good week. If you've been
Speaker 3: doing projects, then I trust you've had a productive week.
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's kind of a satisfaction that comes
Speaker 3: with undertaking the task, but also that sense of satisfaction, right,
Speaker 3: I wanted to do it. I've done it, you know,
Speaker 3: I can move on to the next task. I was
Speaker 3: reminding myself of that yesterday as I was in the
Speaker 3: workshop in the late afternoon priming. What have I got
Speaker 3: about one hundred and forty lineal meters of one fifty
Speaker 3: x one fifty x twenty five tongue and groove decking,
Speaker 3: So it's h three point two treated. The guys. I
Speaker 3: ordered it a little while ago, and the guys went, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: he obviously wants it really soon. So when I went
Speaker 3: to pick it up the other day, because I didn't
Speaker 3: actually need it as soon as I thought I did,
Speaker 3: that's another story, isn't it. It turns out that it
Speaker 3: wasn't pre primed. So I was down at Razine yesterday,
Speaker 3: got a tin of four liter ten of oil based primer,
Speaker 3: set myself up a little jig because of course, if
Speaker 3: you're priming, pre priming tongue and groove, you've got to
Speaker 3: get into the groove and around the tongue and then well,
Speaker 3: podcast in, yeah, powards in brush ready, tin ready, and
Speaker 3: we're in it in the workshop, little production line, going
Speaker 3: to do that. So and actually speaking about painting, because
Speaker 3: I was talking a good mate Jay from Razine on
Speaker 3: the Friday, just making sure I was using the right
Speaker 3: product and the right application. So I'm going to do
Speaker 3: an oil based undercoat, then I'm going to do a
Speaker 3: code of quick dry, and then once the decking is laid,
Speaker 3: which should be in a couple of weeks hopefully, then
Speaker 3: I'll go over the top with my top coats, which
Speaker 3: will be water borne. Good news, as he gave me
Speaker 3: all the advice, I asked him all the questions, so
Speaker 3: I don't need to ask him in question today, but
Speaker 3: there is an opportunity for you to ask him in question.
Speaker 3: So at around seven twenty this morning, Jay from Razine
Speaker 3: will be joining us, and if you've got a question
Speaker 3: of painting nature, then please text those through. So that's
Speaker 3: nine two, nine to two. We'll line them up and
Speaker 3: we'll race through a whole series of your questions around
Speaker 3: painting with Jay at about seven thirty this morning. But
Speaker 3: right now it is a general opportunity to talk all
Speaker 3: things building and construction. I may have me last week,
Speaker 3: and it's absolutely true that there's a vast number, seemingly
Speaker 3: a series of events and announcements on the way from
Speaker 3: the Government with regard to self certification, with regard to
Speaker 3: sort of an investigation or a little bit of clarity
Speaker 3: around how long it takes building Consent Authorities bcas to
Speaker 3: process building consents and what can be done to speed
Speaker 3: that process up. There's going to be a couple of
Speaker 3: other announcements on the way as well, so I reached
Speaker 3: out to Chris Pink, the Member Member of Parliament and
Speaker 3: the current Minister for Building and Construction during the course
Speaker 3: of the week, and he's going to join us on
Speaker 3: the show next Sunday for a bit of an interview. Actually,
Speaker 3: very generously, he did offer to come into the studio
Speaker 3: and take some calls, and I thought, well, actually, given
Speaker 3: that there's a number of announcements coming up, we might
Speaker 3: just push that back a month and then we will
Speaker 3: We'll get Chris Pink into the studio and you can
Speaker 3: ask questions of him, but at this stage next week
Speaker 3: it'll just be questions, maybe some text questions, and certainly
Speaker 3: I've got a whole bunch of questions for a brief
Speaker 3: interview with Chris Pink, the Minister next Sunday on the show.
Speaker 3: But right now it is your opportunity, so we to
Speaker 3: be fair. Look, folks, we got off to a slow
Speaker 3: start last week. So if you're listening and you're thinking, God,
Speaker 3: I do have a question and I never get time
Speaker 3: to ask it, now's a perfect time to ring O
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've got
Speaker 3: a question of a building nature, whether it's you know,
Speaker 3: the practical side of things, how do I do this?
Speaker 3: The kind of theoretical in terms of what regulations apply,
Speaker 3: which rules apply? In fact, who was I this week? Oh,
Speaker 3: a couple of events that I went to in talking
Speaker 3: to a young guy who's a former building inspector and
Speaker 3: also building survey now and we got onto talking about
Speaker 3: h one.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
Speaker 3: I had an interesting discussion with a guy around tiling
Speaker 3: and tiling showers, and both of us came to the
Speaker 3: conclusion that unfortunately, the legislation is not terribly clear around
Speaker 3: whether when you need a building consent for a tile shower.
Speaker 3: So we can we can talk about that a little
Speaker 3: bit as well on the program. So practical things, theoretical things,
Speaker 3: and maybe some tips and tricks of getting a job
Speaker 3: done just a little bit quicker. I mean, look, it
Speaker 3: was as simple as this. Yesterday, the day before I
Speaker 3: knew that I have to. So I've docked all my
Speaker 3: boards roughly to length, knowing that I'm going to have
Speaker 3: to trim the front edge off once I lay the
Speaker 3: decking boards, I'm going to have to paint the edges
Speaker 3: the tongue and the groove of this tongue groove board.
Speaker 3: So I just made a couple of little brackets, timber
Speaker 3: ones that I have on the bench that I can
Speaker 3: stand the board up in so that I don't have
Speaker 3: to hold it while I'm trying to paint the edge.
Speaker 3: Little things like that. Oh eight hundred, I'll send you
Speaker 3: a photo. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Let's rip
Speaker 3: into it. The lines are open. My name's people off Camp,
Speaker 3: the resident builder, and we are talking all things building
Speaker 3: and construction. I've got an interesting update too on if
Speaker 3: you recall I mentioned this a couple of times during
Speaker 3: the program. Today. A couple of weeks ago, we had
Speaker 3: the opportunity to talk with Charlotte McEwan from One Tree
Speaker 3: Hill College. They have done a complete rebuild of an
Speaker 3: old Kaina Aura house. So it was a it was
Speaker 3: a house offer development site. They bought it for a
Speaker 3: dollar off Ko had it shipped to one Tree Hill
Speaker 3: College in Auckland the students and some local LBP builders
Speaker 3: and I have to say some tremendous companies that got
Speaker 3: on board with this. They've completely refurbished the house. And
Speaker 3: when I say refurbished, it is now home Star seven,
Speaker 3: so New Zealand Green Building Council home Star seven rated
Speaker 3: house which makes it exceptionally eco friendly and energy efficient.
Speaker 3: And that's going up for sale on Thursday, so check
Speaker 3: it out. Barfat and Thompson would have it on their website.
Speaker 3: You'll find it on trade me as well. It is
Speaker 3: a fantastic event. I'm going to pop along. I don't
Speaker 3: know that I'll put my hand up for it. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure what I would do with a very very
Speaker 3: good three bedroom house, but hey, if you know someone
Speaker 3: who wants one, you should be at the auction on
Speaker 3: set on Thursday four o'clock. Looking forward to that, right,
Speaker 3: let's get amongst it, folks. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number. It is just on six
Speaker 3: fifteen and Tony, a very good morning to you, Good.
Speaker 7: Morning to your again to talk to you again.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 7: I've got a question. We had a house that was
Speaker 7: category three, and then we sold it and I bought
Speaker 7: another one of colonial wooden windows. Yes, the thing is,
Speaker 7: before I bought it, people to put it on the
Speaker 7: market just put cheap paint all over the windows. Right now.
Speaker 7: I knew when I bought it it didn't have aluminium,
Speaker 7: but that you can't have everything in life. So I'm
Speaker 7: about at the stage where I need to start doing
Speaker 7: the windows. The windows are all opening and closing. There's
Speaker 7: only one catch broken. I've got to take a bit
Speaker 7: of timber off a couple of the side. Sure, but
Speaker 7: do I need to take all that paint off back
Speaker 7: to the bear timber. My thoughts were that I'd use
Speaker 7: with the shore seal all based and then put a
Speaker 7: good top coat on. Being more than one, would that
Speaker 7: be what I should do?
Speaker 3: I guess the thing that causes me to take a
Speaker 3: breath for a second is that someone's applied perhaps and
Speaker 3: not particularly good paint over the top of existing paint.
Speaker 3: So if you.
Speaker 7: Apply it correct, that's absolutely correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if you then apply another coat, even if
Speaker 3: you use something like shore seal, right, which is to
Speaker 3: be fair, it's more it's a pigmented seala that I
Speaker 3: would typically use on bear or on plaster board surfaces
Speaker 3: that have been painted. I'm I'm more than happy to
Speaker 3: ask jay At in about an hour's time. But I
Speaker 3: would think that the concern is that you will apply
Speaker 3: a coat to the top of a coat that's not
Speaker 3: particularly well adhered, and that eventually that will your top
Speaker 3: coat will peel off with the coat below it. So
Speaker 3: I think at the very least you would want to
Speaker 3: hit all of the windows with like a tungsten scraper
Speaker 3: or possibly even some paint stripper and try and get
Speaker 3: rid of that top coat. You might find that the
Speaker 3: coat underneath is actually reasonably firm, and at that point
Speaker 3: I would give that a primer coat, probably an oil
Speaker 3: based one, and then.
Speaker 8: Go overficient man look.
Speaker 3: I typically have always used sure seal where I've got
Speaker 3: existing plaster board. You know, like let's say you repair
Speaker 3: a section of a wall and you've got some new
Speaker 3: plastering and some new job board, and you've got some
Speaker 3: old plaster board that's already had a coat of paint
Speaker 3: on it. I'll use it in that instance there just
Speaker 3: to bind everything together outside. I typically I'm a little
Speaker 3: bit old fashioned with this. I typically use an oil
Speaker 3: based primer for my timber joinery. You can finish in
Speaker 3: a water born enamel, which is really good and a
Speaker 3: little bit easier to apply for exterior, although saying that
Speaker 3: I typically for my own jobs, I'll often use an
Speaker 3: enamel on my joinery outside as well.
Speaker 7: So oil based, oil based and top coat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get a little bit of yellowing with
Speaker 3: light colors. You know, whites tend to yellow a little bit.
Speaker 3: That's one of the only criticisms of it. I find
Speaker 3: that I'll live with that. Basically, if I want the durability, because.
Speaker 7: I want to do it once, I want to do
Speaker 7: it well. Three quarters of the house I can get to.
Speaker 7: But being a colonial, you've got the timbers in between
Speaker 7: the small pieces of as well, so it's going to
Speaker 7: be quite a job to do it.
Speaker 3: But what it comes down to is that you need
Speaker 3: to be really confident that the surface that you're applying
Speaker 3: your new top coats to is bonding with the timber.
Speaker 3: And if it feels like they've whacked a coat of
Speaker 3: acrylic over the top, maybe they haven't done a great
Speaker 3: deal of preparation.
Speaker 7: Then that none you can see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hit it with a tungsten point, hit it with
Speaker 3: a tungsten scraper initially.
Speaker 7: Different the scraper is that different to your sutordinate scraper
Speaker 7: and buy it bunning then no, no, no.
Speaker 3: It probably is the same. I typically get I'm not
Speaker 3: sure who makes them, but they have an interchangeable blade, right,
Speaker 3: so you can replace the blades. So you can buy scrapers,
Speaker 3: but then unless you know how to sharpen them, they
Speaker 3: do get a bit dark. So that the tungsten ones
Speaker 3: are great because when the little tungsten blade, which is
Speaker 3: about an inch long about half an inch wide, when
Speaker 3: that dulls, you can flip it over, use the other side,
Speaker 3: and when it's really dull, throw it away, replace the blade.
Speaker 3: But typically if you you know, if you use that
Speaker 3: to scrape the surface and material comes off easily, well
Speaker 3: then you know you've got to carry on with the prep.
Speaker 3: If you scrape it and it seems to hold there
Speaker 3: and it's not terribly crazed and that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: you can send it, prep it and then top coat.
Speaker 7: But it's a good work fifty one years old, so
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, but be solid.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. Look you might find a little bit
Speaker 3: of rot, you know, in a corner of a sill
Speaker 3: or something like that. But again, you can fetch that
Speaker 3: rot out and the windows will be good at least
Speaker 3: for another fifty years.
Speaker 7: So I should do that tongusten rather than just use
Speaker 7: a multi tool or something. We should just grind it away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look you might. I mean it's a little bit
Speaker 3: harder on your hands using the tungsten, but you'll find
Speaker 3: actually that it takes off that loose material quite quickly.
Speaker 7: Okay, look, no, thank you so much. I'll let you
Speaker 7: know how.
Speaker 3: Please do you take care, take good care, Thank you, Tony.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to Philip in a moment. Quick text. My
Speaker 3: deck doesn't get a lot of sun. Do I need
Speaker 3: to stay? And that's a very good question for Jay
Speaker 3: Sharple's from Razine. He'll be with us just over an
Speaker 3: hour's time. Right, the lines are open. Now's the time
Speaker 3: to call. It is twenty one minutes after six with
Speaker 3: with Philip in just a moment.
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping I've got to this just in time. So
Speaker 3: last week Debbie sent me an email at around this
Speaker 3: time and mentioned the fact that she was heading off
Speaker 3: to work and asked a quick question about bathroom extraction
Speaker 3: and one hundred year old wooden house. Well, as it happens,
Speaker 3: that was exactly what I did. I get it finished
Speaker 3: last week. Yeah, I pretty much did until I got
Speaker 3: to the exterior grill. So this is a little project
Speaker 3: that's been on my list as well. So I've replaced
Speaker 3: the fan, I've run new one hundred and fifty miliducting
Speaker 3: along the ceiling and then where you duck out. Often
Speaker 3: this is a real challenge for all sorts of extraction.
Speaker 3: Is typically you know there's there's lots of space in
Speaker 3: the ceiling, but then when you get to the exterior,
Speaker 3: whether you're dropping over the top plate and in to
Speaker 3: a safite or in my case, the safite is pretty
Speaker 3: much level with the top plate, and so you've got
Speaker 3: to you've got one hundred and fifty milimeter round, but
Speaker 3: then suddenly you've only got one hundred millimeters height to
Speaker 3: transfer through. The temptation is to take that flexible ducting
Speaker 3: and kind of just squish it down a little bit
Speaker 3: and then poke it out through the safit. But that's
Speaker 3: not great. It tends to impede the flow, and so
Speaker 3: all of the recommendations from the ventilation extraction experts is
Speaker 3: you need to keep the same volume of ducting. So
Speaker 3: I transferred from a one to fifty round to two
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty by ninety rectangular section, so round
Speaker 3: to rectangular, then had an elbow, so a ninety degree bend,
Speaker 3: and then I could drop out through my safit. What
Speaker 3: I couldn't find, as it happens, was a grill that
Speaker 3: fitted there. So in a moment of inspiration, just quickly
Speaker 3: as I was standing at my local resource recovery center
Speaker 3: we don't call them to anymore resource recovery center, about
Speaker 3: to throw the old one into the skip or actually
Speaker 3: the metal part was going to go for recycling. The
Speaker 3: plastic could also be cycled. I looked at the old
Speaker 3: grill and thought, hmm, I could make a new grill
Speaker 3: out of the old grill. So that's how I finished
Speaker 3: the safit detail anyway, Debbi, So that's hopefully an idea
Speaker 3: for you as well. So if you're doing the bathroom,
Speaker 3: what you want. The key to extraction is putting the
Speaker 3: extractor in the right place in the bathroom which often
Speaker 3: is not actually immediately above the shower, which is the
Speaker 3: mistake that I made some years ago, but anyway, I
Speaker 3: can't fix that right now. The other thing is to
Speaker 3: make sure that you're a ducting runs as level as
Speaker 3: possible and as straight as possible and as short a
Speaker 3: route as possible to the exterior, that you size the
Speaker 3: fan correctly, and ideally if you've got a fan, you're
Speaker 3: either going to have one that has a run on
Speaker 3: timer so that when you finished in the bathroom and
Speaker 3: you turn the hour off to the fan, it actually
Speaker 3: runs for another five minutes or so, because typically we're
Speaker 3: in the bathroom, we create lots of steam, and then
Speaker 3: we finish in the bathroom, turn everything off and go,
Speaker 3: but there's still quite a lot of steam in that space,
Speaker 3: so that's a key to it. The other key is
Speaker 3: that you don't crush the ducting as it goes to
Speaker 3: the exterior. That's really important as well, and increasingly now
Speaker 3: and I've got one of these to install another projects
Speaker 3: Simmis so Simx have developed a range of extractor fans
Speaker 3: for wet areas that have a humidity sensor in them
Speaker 3: as well, so they run constantly at a very low flow,
Speaker 3: which is great for ventilation and extraction inside your house,
Speaker 3: and then they ramp up when it senses that, hey,
Speaker 3: someone's using the shower. Basically we've got lots of humidity here.
Speaker 3: It ramps up and then reduces its rate, but constantly runs,
Speaker 3: and that's really really good. The other key factor for
Speaker 3: good extraction in a bathroom is making sure that air
Speaker 3: can get into the bathroom. So underneath the door, I
Speaker 3: think the recommendation is as much as a twenty mil gap,
Speaker 3: but even if it was, let's say fifteen mil, that's good.
Speaker 3: You know, when you trim doors off often you're going,
Speaker 3: I'm going to make that gap as little as possible,
Speaker 3: because that's really professional. But in a bathroom, you actually
Speaker 3: want that gap to be a reasonable amount so that
Speaker 3: you've got air coming into the room as you're trying
Speaker 3: to suck it out. Otherwise you're just creating a vacuum
Speaker 3: and that doesn't work particularly well for extraction. Hopefully that's
Speaker 3: some ideas. Debian. Good luck with your renovation. Hello Philip.
Speaker 9: Today, my question there is a product in insolmax insulation.
Speaker 9: Is their right to use in your opinion.
Speaker 3: So in saying this, you're being very specific about the
Speaker 3: product and the supplier. Because there are a number of
Speaker 3: blowing insulation systems, right, So some of them are foam,
Speaker 3: some of them are fibers, some are injected. Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: all essentially injected systems. What's your situation? Where are you
Speaker 3: looking to use it?
Speaker 10: Got a weather board house, yep, built in the fifties,
Speaker 10: iron roof, bats under the floor, beats in the ceiling,
Speaker 10: but nothing in the walls. Double glazing windows all around,
Speaker 10: and yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: The walls are now You're kind of your one week spot,
Speaker 3: aren't they. If you've gone to the extent of insulating
Speaker 3: the ceiling, you've got some insulation under floor, you've gone
Speaker 3: to the double glazing, which is great. Then the heat.
Speaker 3: One of the interesting things I learned just a couple
Speaker 3: of months ago, and I suppose I'd always sort of
Speaker 3: thought this, but I'd never had it written down in
Speaker 3: front of me, is that heat transfer is unstoppable. Right.
Speaker 3: The process of heat essentially trying to level out of
Speaker 3: its cold inside and warm inside. The world wants to equalize,
Speaker 3: and so heat will transfer through any particular barrier that
Speaker 3: we can imagine it will all so, but what we're
Speaker 3: trying to do is slow it down. Right, So at
Speaker 3: the moment you've blocked off all of these passages for
Speaker 3: heat transfer, but your walls, if they are essentially plasterboard,
Speaker 3: timber framing and some weather boards on the outside, heat
Speaker 3: will escape through there and through gaps and cracks and
Speaker 3: so on. I think I'll be really, really honest, I
Speaker 3: have often been skeptical of the blowing or injected insulation
Speaker 3: systems for walls. My own experience some years ago was
Speaker 3: working on an older house where I had to remove
Speaker 3: exterior cladding. We were doing some alterations and I could
Speaker 3: see some of the injected systems that have been injected,
Speaker 3: and you could see how moisture had affected it. There
Speaker 3: was the beginning of a bit of mold growth. You
Speaker 3: could also see where it hadn't been extensive, right, it
Speaker 3: hadn't filled up all of the gaps. And one of
Speaker 3: the things we know about insulation is that if it's
Speaker 3: not well installed, if there are gaps, its effectiveness drops
Speaker 3: quite considerably. Even small grap gaps will drop it down
Speaker 3: by fifteen to twenty percent, right effectiveness. So if you're
Speaker 3: working in a space that you can't see, that's particularly challenging,
Speaker 3: isn't it. You know, how do I know that I've
Speaker 3: got insulation everywhere? So those are some of the challenges.
Speaker 3: At the same time, Inevitably, whenever I go to you know,
Speaker 3: home shows and that sort of thing, and I'm at
Speaker 3: these events quite a bit these days, I'll get chatting
Speaker 3: with people who do the injected systems, and I'll be
Speaker 3: quite blunt with them in terms of saying, you know,
Speaker 3: can you convince me that what you're doing is safe,
Speaker 3: that it's effective, and it's not going to cause some
Speaker 3: unintended harm in the future. And I think some of
Speaker 3: the new systems are better than the old system So
Speaker 3: they talk a lot of people talk about things being hydrophobic,
Speaker 3: as in they won't hold water. So I and then
Speaker 3: I've also spoken with people who said, look, I've had
Speaker 3: it done to my house, and you know, the amazing
Speaker 3: thing is the next day, I notice that it's better, right,
Speaker 3: you know that suddenly my house is warmer. So the
Speaker 3: other thing. And so I'm just giving you some general principles.
Speaker 3: I think if you're engaging with companies that are providing
Speaker 3: that product, the one thing that they must do is
Speaker 3: that it requires a building consent or something from the
Speaker 3: local territorial authority saying that this is an exemption right.
Speaker 3: No one who comes to do this work should tell
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about a building consent because
Speaker 3: it's quite clear in the Building Act that the addition
Speaker 3: of insulation to an existing exterior wall requires a building concent.
Speaker 9: So if it went for bats and we do we
Speaker 9: do to go on the inside or take the weatherboards
Speaker 9: off and do it from the outside.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, taking the weatherwards off is a much
Speaker 3: bigger job. It potentially taking the weatherwards off gives you
Speaker 3: an opportunity to do things like, you know, add a
Speaker 3: building rap around the outside and try and deal with
Speaker 3: air tightness. Again. You know, a lot of the discussion
Speaker 3: at the moment in terms of building better is also
Speaker 3: talking about air tightness. So you know, your house, my house,
Speaker 3: to be fair, and a whole bunch of other ones.
Speaker 3: You know, we might have timber framing and weatherboards, right,
Speaker 3: but there might not even there might be some old
Speaker 3: tar paper or possibly your house there may not be
Speaker 3: any building paper around the outside. So every single gap
Speaker 3: and crack that there is in the weatherboards, a scriber
Speaker 3: around a flashing bottom of the weather boards, all that
Speaker 3: sort of thing. We'll all be allowing air to push
Speaker 3: through the building envelope, and that reduces the effectiveness of
Speaker 3: any heating Because of air can get in, it can
Speaker 3: also get out. And if everything's trying to equalize, you've
Speaker 3: got a nice warm room inside and it's ten degrees outside,
Speaker 3: it's going to actively be sucking all of that warm
Speaker 3: outside of the house with the gaps and cracks. So
Speaker 3: if you were to do exterior cladding, almost no one,
Speaker 3: I know, unless you're doing a really extensive rebuild or
Speaker 3: you're aiming for high performance or something like that, would
Speaker 3: go to the extent of taking the exterior cladding off.
Speaker 3: Sometimes with old houses, you know, the interior wall linings
Speaker 3: have got a bit shabby or they've got wallpaper on them,
Speaker 3: so we tend to pull that off. But again, if
Speaker 3: that's all, if your intention is to install insulation in
Speaker 3: an existing exterior wall, and you're going to do that
Speaker 3: by removing the wall lining, technically that requires a building
Speaker 3: consent as well. Yeah, you know, and I think look
Speaker 3: around there's some really good resources online And again I
Speaker 3: really do emphasize this. Whoever ends up doing the job,
Speaker 3: they must provide you with documentation to say either it's
Speaker 3: a system which has prior approval from councils. This is
Speaker 3: what often happens, so rather than them having to go
Speaker 3: through and make an individual submission for a building consent,
Speaker 3: there'll often be a process where the council goes, okay,
Speaker 3: it's that system. We know it works. You've provided me
Speaker 3: with some evidence. You know we don't need to come
Speaker 3: out and do an inspection. We issue a building consent
Speaker 3: and a CCC. Or they'll say okay, we understand the system.
Speaker 3: We're prepared to give you an exemption from a building consent,
Speaker 3: but again, get the paperwork. Okay, all the us, you
Speaker 3: make take care my pleasure, all of us. Hopefully it
Speaker 3: didn't sound too heavy, but I think if we're going
Speaker 3: to do it, we're going to do it well. And
Speaker 3: in fact, where was I? Oh, I was at a
Speaker 3: sort of networking event on Friday night which was really
Speaker 3: good and one of the guys who was presenting, actually
Speaker 3: he probably I'll probably get him on the show in
Speaker 3: the next sometime in the next few months. Joe Lythe
Speaker 3: who is an architect and passive house designer and currently
Speaker 3: now the chair of the Passive House Association for New
Speaker 3: Zealand was talking about sort of going to a site
Speaker 3: where people were doing insulation and you know, the installation
Speaker 3: was poorly installed. There were gaps and cracks and you
Speaker 3: could see that they hadn't that either you know, cut
Speaker 3: a piece of insulation too short or too narrow, put
Speaker 3: it in and left a gap on the side. Those
Speaker 3: sorts of you know, poorly installed insulation is not terribly effective.
Speaker 3: If you're going to do it, you've got to do
Speaker 3: it well. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 3: the number to call. I am going to have a
Speaker 3: rant in a moment. Stand by squeaky door or its
Speaker 3: squeaky floor, get the right advice from Peter Wolfgap, the
Speaker 3: resident on us talk s b right. Oh, your opportunity
Speaker 3: to have your say or ask a question or discuss
Speaker 3: a product. I mean, this is one of the things.
Speaker 3: And it's interestingly enough, it's likely to become I was
Speaker 3: going to say, even more complicated that there may well
Speaker 3: be more choice. So one of the things that the
Speaker 3: new government not so new these days is it talking about,
Speaker 3: is making it easier to import building products into the
Speaker 3: country in terms of the compliance pathway for products that
Speaker 3: are used and this is quite an important distinction around
Speaker 3: a product that is used in conjunction with consented work.
Speaker 3: So you know, there's lots of building products that you
Speaker 3: can use, paint, sealents, et cetera, that have nothing to
Speaker 3: do with the building consent, but there are products that
Speaker 3: are specified for use in a building consent. So you
Speaker 3: might find, for example, that if you're using particular type
Speaker 3: of cladding, the architect or the architectural designer will be
Speaker 3: quite clear about saying, this particular sealant is the sealant
Speaker 3: to use for maybe a head flashing or a junction
Speaker 3: or a corner flashing or something like that. And if
Speaker 3: it's specified on the plan, that's the one that you're
Speaker 3: supposed to use. And then typically products that are used
Speaker 3: with building consents either have a brand's appraisal or they
Speaker 3: have a code mark, and those two processes are relatively arduous,
Speaker 3: and my understanding is actually quite expensive for companies to
Speaker 3: go through. So if you've I'll stick with sealants, right.
Speaker 3: So at the moment, if you want to sell a
Speaker 3: sealant product onto the market and it's used in restrict
Speaker 3: building work or within appli it's or a task that
Speaker 3: has got a building consent attached to it, then it
Speaker 3: must have brands, appraisal or a.
Speaker 6: Mark.
Speaker 3: The absurdity to some degree, and I'm a big fan
Speaker 3: of having the right product, But you know, if you've
Speaker 3: got a let's say, a seilant that's been manufactured in
Speaker 3: Europe for the last fifty or sixty years, comes from
Speaker 3: a company that does extensive research and testing, and then
Speaker 3: we bring it into the country and we then have
Speaker 3: to ask a local authority to go is this a
Speaker 3: good product? You kind of go, it probably is right.
Speaker 3: So there's going to be some work in that space.
Speaker 3: So again my point was that you know, if there's
Speaker 3: already a baffling array of products available for choice, if
Speaker 3: this legislation comes through and it frees up the opportunity
Speaker 3: for products to be imported from let's say, jurisdictions that
Speaker 3: have a similar testing regime to our own, and they
Speaker 3: pass compliance in that country, maybe North America, certainly Europe,
Speaker 3: a couple of other England, you know, other places around
Speaker 3: the world where there's specific testing that's reliable and the
Speaker 3: product is manufactured there, then maybe those products can come
Speaker 3: in and not have to have local testing in order
Speaker 3: to be used in compliant works. That'll be an interesting one, right,
Speaker 3: because you haven't called. Now I'm going to have a rant.
Speaker 3: So I mentioned before that I was at the Resource
Speaker 3: Recovery Center, and I off the cuff sort of mentioned
Speaker 3: that we used to call them tips, right, We used
Speaker 3: to go dump all out of our stuff on the
Speaker 3: ground or in the landfill. In fact, I saw a
Speaker 3: fantastic photo the other day on kind of one of
Speaker 3: the social media pages that's got old photos, and it
Speaker 3: had your typical landfill back in the nineteen seventies. And
Speaker 3: one of my abiding memories from childhood was loading up
Speaker 3: at home, often with green waste. We lived in pop
Speaker 3: a toy driving out to Whitford to the tip that
Speaker 3: was on the road out to my right eye there
Speaker 3: in the Whitford and it was an old quarry, and
Speaker 3: you know, I'd be in the car with Dad and
Speaker 3: we'd just drive in there, pay a few bucks. You'd
Speaker 3: drive into a huge tipping area revere and just throw
Speaker 3: everything on the ground and the bulldoze are to be
Speaker 3: running around tracking it all down, and there'd be a
Speaker 3: whole row of you know, Vauxhaels and Holden's and Valiants
Speaker 3: and that with homemade trailers on the back and knowing us,
Speaker 3: we typically had a good fossic around while we were
Speaker 3: there and typically came home not quite with as much
Speaker 3: as we'd dropped off, but there was always some useful
Speaker 3: bits and pieces. But you'd fossic around in the tip
Speaker 3: site and all the rest of it. It ain't like
Speaker 3: that anymore to some degree, but we still as a
Speaker 3: as a country and certainly as an industry, the building
Speaker 3: industry are shockingly wasteful. We send so much material to landfill.
Speaker 3: So if you have a look in Auckland anyway, this
Speaker 3: is where I know the figures about fifty percent of
Speaker 3: the volume of material that goes to landfill comes from
Speaker 3: the construction sector, right, so it's construction demolition waste. That's
Speaker 3: an appalling statistic, to be blunt, fifty percent of the
Speaker 3: volume of material going to landfill comes from construction, where
Speaker 3: what ten twelve percent of the economy maybe even a
Speaker 3: little bit less. So we're punching well above our weight,
Speaker 3: and it's an appalling statistic. And there's lots and lots
Speaker 3: of material that can be reused. Right So when I
Speaker 3: say Resource Recovery Center, and this Texter picks up on this,
Speaker 3: so I'll read the text resource recovery center in italics
Speaker 3: or quote marks rather yet another example of the bullshit
Speaker 3: woke industry that's driving this country to disaster. Did you
Speaker 3: know that lawnmowers are now called a state maintenance or
Speaker 3: lawn mowers are now called state maintenance executives. Okay, put
Speaker 3: that aside. Resource recovery and resource recovery centers is not woke.
Speaker 3: Resource recovery is really really important unless we intend to
Speaker 3: spend all of our time trucking off perfectly good materials
Speaker 3: to dump in somebody's valley and bury it there for
Speaker 3: the next couple of thousand years. So the fact that
Speaker 3: you know, when I go to the resource recovery center
Speaker 3: and I put my timber in a pile because that
Speaker 3: can be recovered. I put my metal in a pile
Speaker 3: and that can be reused. And I take my plastic
Speaker 3: and put that in the pile because that can be recycled,
Speaker 3: whether it's pipes or soft plastics or numbers.
Speaker 8: What is it?
Speaker 3: One, two and five. If I take my green wastin
Speaker 3: and that gets made into compost, or if I take
Speaker 3: my hard fill and that gets recycled into building materials
Speaker 3: or hard fill again, all of which gets diverted from landfill.
Speaker 3: So I know that the Resource Recovery Center that I'm
Speaker 3: involved with because I sit as a trustee or a
Speaker 3: board member to administer that center, we're sending with seventy
Speaker 3: eight percent diversion right from the material that comes in.
Speaker 3: That's not woke. It's just being good custodians of the planet,
Speaker 3: which I think we all should be. And it frustrates
Speaker 3: the hell out of me to be fair when you
Speaker 3: look at building sites and you see the amount that
Speaker 3: is just going to waste and it doesn't need to
Speaker 3: so at eight woke in my view, to be a
Speaker 3: good steward of the environment, and also not to be
Speaker 3: wasteful of a material it's easily recyclable and reusable. There
Speaker 3: you go, right, I had my rant. Time for you
Speaker 3: to have the go oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
Speaker 3: is the number to call. It is six forty seven.
Speaker 3: Remember too, that in the next hour SOT around seven thirty,
Speaker 3: j from Razine will be joining us, so he is
Speaker 3: our painting expert. If you've got any specific painting questions,
Speaker 3: feel free to text them through and I'll rattle through
Speaker 3: those with Jay at around seven thirty this morning right
Speaker 3: now though, time for your calls before the news. Oh
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Feel free to call me
Speaker 3: right now, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right The resident
Speaker 1: builder with Peter Wolfcat's call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
Speaker 1: youth talksb.
Speaker 3: Your news talks. He'd be righty. Oh, we're talking all
Speaker 3: things building construction.
Speaker 11: Dave. Very good morning, Mitey take them my call, pleasure.
Speaker 12: I'm in an old cottage down in Tokoa and I've
Speaker 12: got to replace some of the weather boards in my house. Yep,
Speaker 12: it's seventy something years old. I can't buy the weather
Speaker 12: boards anymore, so I had to try, and I'm going
Speaker 12: to have to make my own in a another story,
Speaker 12: So I want to refit some of the weather boards
Speaker 12: I've taken off.
Speaker 11: Yes, And I remember.
Speaker 12: Listening to your program a month or so ago and
Speaker 12: we were talking about it and somebody mentioned something about screws.
Speaker 11: Now they use some sort of screws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting, yes, yes, yep, so can you tell Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was rounded. Actually some friends of ours are doing
Speaker 3: they're doing an extension in fact, as it happens after
Speaker 3: today's show. I've got to nip home, grab the trailer,
Speaker 3: shoot up to a garage and pick up four hundred
Speaker 3: linear meters of Carrie flooring that's going to go down
Speaker 3: in their house tomorrow. Actually, so that's my job this afternoon.
Speaker 3: But when I was I had a wand around the
Speaker 3: site the other day and we were chatting and he said, oh,
Speaker 3: my builder is now fixing the weatherboards with a screw.
Speaker 3: So it's about a seventy five milli long stainless steel
Speaker 3: screw and it's got you know, regular thread to drive
Speaker 3: into the timber, but then the for about fifteen millimeters
Speaker 3: down from the head, it actually has a counter thread.
Speaker 3: So what happens is when as the screw drives through
Speaker 3: the timber through the weatherboard, it then because you've got
Speaker 3: the two opposing threads right, they actually draw everything together,
Speaker 3: so you're not necessarily reliant. And the head is probably
Speaker 3: maybe half a millimeter or so bigger than a jolt
Speaker 3: head screw, right, So it's a little Talk's head screw,
Speaker 3: so completely round, smooth on the outside with the driver
Speaker 3: bit the Talks driver that fits into the inside of it.
Speaker 3: And so I think that when it goes in, it
Speaker 3: won't actually look that much different to a counter sun
Speaker 3: called count a punched jolt head nail, as you would
Speaker 3: expect to see. So no, it's just essentially a shank.
Speaker 3: It's just a straight head, right, so from the surface
Speaker 3: it just comes straight it does it to be fair,
Speaker 3: if you held it up next to a seventy five
Speaker 3: mil jolt head nail, it wouldn't actually look that different.
Speaker 11: Yeah, do you know what they're called and where to
Speaker 11: get them from?
Speaker 3: Well, I know that his builder has probably picked them
Speaker 3: up from Devonport Timber. But I would say that you'll
Speaker 3: find them almost anywhere. I'll have a quick look online
Speaker 3: and see and the this is difficult me too. So
Speaker 3: I was there the other night having a look at
Speaker 3: something and I'm wandering around. There's one lying on the ground.
Speaker 3: So I picked it up and put in a pocket,
Speaker 3: and I've got it sitting on my desk at home.
Speaker 11: And I'm going to need to take these weather boards on. Yeah,
Speaker 11: I appealing, And.
Speaker 3: Look, I actually think I can see the purpose. I
Speaker 3: can see the usefulness of it and the fact that
Speaker 3: it's a little bit like with roofing screws now so
Speaker 3: roofing screw for corrugated or long run will have a
Speaker 3: counter thread at the top which pulls the product up
Speaker 3: against the neoprene washer and this will work the same way.
Speaker 3: So we've got used to screwing down decking, and I
Speaker 3: guess the next extension is to fix cladding with it.
Speaker 3: And the project that I've got coming up, which is
Speaker 3: to replace all of the tongue and groove decking on
Speaker 3: a Verandah, I'm just weighing up whether or not I
Speaker 3: will do the same thing use these because the holding
Speaker 3: power potentially is greater.
Speaker 11: I'm just relying on the head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Look if you wander and you'll find them.
Speaker 3: And I'll try and find a name or something like that,
Speaker 3: or maybe signon or text me what I did.
Speaker 12: Ask it a large retailer a few days ago and
Speaker 12: I've never heard of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there'll be a blanklet. What you have to do,
Speaker 3: This is my secret tip to going to these large
Speaker 3: stores is you look around for the oldest person on
Speaker 3: the team. Right, they'll know everything.
Speaker 12: Second question, if I may, should I be putting a
Speaker 12: ceilant in the where they lap?
Speaker 8: Ah?
Speaker 3: What profile weather boarder is it? Roughly? Is it just
Speaker 3: like a square dress board.
Speaker 11: No, it's got a miter overlap on it.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yes, I would either subadhesive or if you
Speaker 3: use something like fix all, then that acts as an
Speaker 3: adhesive and a ceilant. So if I have a moist
Speaker 3: mighty join, I would prime, prime, and seal the edges.
Speaker 3: Let that dry thoroughly, and then I would put a
Speaker 3: beat of ceilant push them together. Not too tightly, because
Speaker 3: boards will always move. I'd rather just have them neatly
Speaker 3: butting against each other. A bead of seilant in there,
Speaker 3: strike that off and that'll be a nice joint. Good
Speaker 3: luck for that mate. All the mess you, Dave, take care.
Speaker 3: And I guess the other thing I was going to
Speaker 3: say is, you know, if he's really stuck, Typically some
Speaker 3: guys will be able to machine exact copies of your weatherboards.
Speaker 3: They can set up the full sider spindle molder and
Speaker 3: do that. Back after the.
Speaker 1: News twice, God was but maybe call Pete first for
Speaker 1: your wolfgab the resident builder News Talk said be.
Speaker 3: Just prior to the news, we were chatting with Dave
Speaker 3: about the weatherboard repair job that he's got going on,
Speaker 3: and I had happened to mention the fact that I've
Speaker 3: been around to a mate's place who's doing a reasonable
Speaker 3: size extension alterations to their house, and the builders they're
Speaker 3: fixing a rusticated weatherboard, so I fairly traditional profile. We're
Speaker 3: using screws instead of nail, so conventionally with you know,
Speaker 3: seventy five mil jolt head galvanized bang those in job done.
Speaker 3: And then I mentioned that they were using a screw
Speaker 3: and we were talking about that, and the screw, funnily enough,
Speaker 3: is called a jolt screw. So just like you have
Speaker 3: a jolt head nail, you now have jolt screws. And
Speaker 3: I'm just tossing up whether I'm going to use those
Speaker 3: to fix down the tongue and groove decking, which is
Speaker 3: going to be painted, so I've got to fill all
Speaker 3: the holes once it's down. And I did some quick
Speaker 3: numbers because I'm trying to figure out how much it's
Speaker 3: all going to cost. I've got forty eight boards and
Speaker 3: i got five rows of joists. I think from memory
Speaker 3: it's two hundred and forty times two to two screws
Speaker 3: per each, four hundred and eighty screws to fix down,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking on the website. I found one manufacturer,
Speaker 3: one supplier, so pack of five hundred and seventy dollars
Speaker 3: ninety eight cents. It's not bad, probably worth doing. Actually,
Speaker 3: I'll let you know how I get on. Although I
Speaker 3: think i'll these ones are gal by the look of it.
Speaker 3: I might go for stainless just because I can. Oh
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty and a couple of interesting
Speaker 3: texts around the resource recovery and my comments and why
Speaker 3: we rant on that For the person that said, oh,
Speaker 3: resource recovery, it's all just woke this text quickly morning
Speaker 3: Pete yep couldn't agree more about resource recovery. Unfortunately, some
Speaker 3: of the knuckle draggers whose words not mine. Unfortunately, some
Speaker 3: of the knuckle draggers literally don't have the brain needed
Speaker 3: to process the facts. Easier to just disagree with grand
Speaker 3: agree with Grandad and moan about any change what's always done,
Speaker 3: to wake up and listen to your conversation about being
Speaker 3: a good citizen, and then to translate that to woke
Speaker 3: that I don't actually understand what woke is, but the
Speaker 3: real angry guy at the pub shouts at a lot,
Speaker 3: so they reckon it must mean something bad infuriates them
Speaker 3: to the point that they insult the host when they
Speaker 3: know you're winning.
Speaker 10: Bro.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a fabulous text. Thank you very very much
Speaker 3: for that. I'm happy to be, you know, to have
Speaker 3: a discussion around this, but I do, and I you know,
Speaker 3: it's an area that I've been interested in for a while.
Speaker 3: I just think we're terribly waste and I'm talking about
Speaker 3: you know, builders and construction. I think just shockingly wasteful. Right.
Speaker 3: And I was sitting in the traffic a couple of
Speaker 3: months ago, and you know, because I do this work,
Speaker 3: I am involved with the Resources Recovery Center in Devonport.
Speaker 3: That I'm sitting there, and there was there was another
Speaker 3: trade next to me in the traffic with a cage
Speaker 3: trailer full to the brim of material from building site.
Speaker 3: And I kind of I figured out that where he
Speaker 3: was going was essentially a transfer station. It's nothing necessarily
Speaker 3: wrong with that. But I looked at all that material
Speaker 3: in the trailer and I thought, Ah, there's some timber,
Speaker 3: there's some cardboard, there's some old plaster board, all of
Speaker 3: which could be diverted from landfill. Why the hell aren't
Speaker 3: you doing it. I was, apart from sitting in the
Speaker 3: traffic which makes everybody angry. That doubly made me angry.
Speaker 3: I waite hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
Speaker 3: to call before I have another rant. And remember, at
Speaker 3: around seven thirty this morning, we'll grab Jay from Razine.
Speaker 3: And I asked a all my questions when he called
Speaker 3: me on Friday, So it's your turn to ask painting
Speaker 3: questions of Jay from Razime. We'll do that at around
Speaker 3: seven thirty. Just send them through on the text nine
Speaker 3: to nine two Peter, good morning and welcome.
Speaker 13: Thank you, Pet and friends.
Speaker 14: You I missed your rand unfortunately.
Speaker 3: But it was pretty mild. To be fair, that text, though,
Speaker 3: was a perla that was fantastic, Right, how can we help?
Speaker 3: What's up? What's up?
Speaker 14: I was gonna say here, old house with faded powder
Speaker 14: coated joinery and urban mess has said that there's some
Speaker 14: methods that you used to use, some sort of cutting
Speaker 14: compound or the light to actually restore it. Have you
Speaker 14: had an experience in that?
Speaker 3: My experience has pretty much been that I'd hand it
Speaker 3: over to the professionals. Right, And so a little while
Speaker 3: ago I went and had a chat with In fact,
Speaker 3: he's going to join next week. Briefly, Daniel from Nanoclear.
Speaker 3: So nanoclears around the country and I've seen what they do.
Speaker 3: So if you imagine you're staring at your old aluminium
Speaker 3: joinery at the moment, take the beads out, take the
Speaker 3: glass out. In some cases, prep the area properly, apply
Speaker 3: a proper coating, so recolor the joinery to what you want,
Speaker 3: apply a clear coat over the top of that that
Speaker 3: will protect it, replace the rubbers if need be, and
Speaker 3: then reinstall the glazing. So you know by comparison, and
Speaker 3: I know I'll get text in a moment saying hey,
Speaker 3: you know you can use a rubbing compound. You can
Speaker 3: use that, this, that and the other thing. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: probably can, and you'll get a slightly better appearance than
Speaker 3: what you've got now. But I think in terms of
Speaker 3: actually getting a really professional job, I would I would
Speaker 3: get a professional applicator in and the ones that I
Speaker 3: know a little bit about is Nanoclear, so that you know,
Speaker 3: look at it. It's up to you, but do you
Speaker 3: look at it as a cost or as an investment,
Speaker 3: And if you're prepared to invest the money, then I
Speaker 3: think getting a professional to do it probably serves you
Speaker 3: quite well.
Speaker 14: Thanks very much for that.
Speaker 3: That would be my approach anyway. And you know how
Speaker 3: I don't know what color your joinery is, but you know,
Speaker 3: back in the seventies, eighties, nineties and that people had
Speaker 3: a habit of going, you know, funky colors and that
Speaker 3: sort of thing. You can get rid of all of that,
Speaker 3: and you know, if you add that to some double glazing,
Speaker 3: then suddenly you've got much better joinery. Excellent, All the
Speaker 3: very best to you. Take care see. But getting quite
Speaker 3: a few texts on the whole resource recovery, waste minimization,
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. This is an interesting one.
Speaker 3: Would be great if some of the leftover building materials
Speaker 3: could be purchased by others for small projects like sheds
Speaker 3: or sleepouts. Nikki, that's exactly what resource recovery centers do,
Speaker 3: I think in Auckland anyway. And these are around the country, right,
Speaker 3: so in some cases there's still like in Auckland, for example,
Speaker 3: there is the Community Recycling Network or Community Recycling Centers CRCs,
Speaker 3: which are independent but still effectively owned by council. I
Speaker 3: think I'm getting this right, but run locally and locally administered,
Speaker 3: so you can go to any number of them around
Speaker 3: the Auckland area, and I'm sure this is across the country.
Speaker 3: And rather than all of the material being tipped into
Speaker 3: a hole or tipped into the back of a skip
Speaker 3: and taken off to transfer station or directly to landfill,
Speaker 3: the teams will go through pull out useful pieces of
Speaker 3: timber and then they'll put those aside again. You know
Speaker 3: my experiences. You can go in and buy timber for
Speaker 3: a dollar a meter, right, and there'll be little bits
Speaker 3: of or there'll be decent pieces actually of some rough
Speaker 3: sor and six two tantalized that you can use for
Speaker 3: a garden bed or a planter box or a bit
Speaker 3: of garden edging or something like that. Doors, windows, hardware.
Speaker 3: You know, all of this material is taken out of
Speaker 3: the waste stream, so it's processed at the center, taken out,
Speaker 3: set aside, and you can buy old palings, old doors,
Speaker 3: old bits of framing, timber, architraves. All of these sorts
Speaker 3: of things will be taken out once it's been delivered
Speaker 3: to the site by you as the consumer, taken out
Speaker 3: and made available for people. So yeah, it is actually happening.
Speaker 3: You just got to have a look around and try
Speaker 3: and find those places, but they are out there. Nikki,
Speaker 3: thank you very much for your text. Someone else, just
Speaker 3: on the same thing, what do you do with disposing
Speaker 3: of old plasterboard. You're calling it jib, which is fair enough,
Speaker 3: but plasterboard is kind of the generic term. There's a
Speaker 3: couple of processes. There's a company that there's two processes. Basically,
Speaker 3: one is essentially just collect it, tip it into the
Speaker 3: ground and cover it and leave it for about a
Speaker 3: year or so and then uncover it. In that time,
Speaker 3: all of the paper has dissolved and what you're left
Speaker 3: with is the gypsum, which can then be recycled as
Speaker 3: part of agriculture, is part of fertilizer. There's a slightly
Speaker 3: more scientific process now where some of the large recycling
Speaker 3: firms are able to I'm pretty sure that Green Gorilla
Speaker 3: and Auckland do this. They've got essentially a large centrifuge.
Speaker 3: So the waste plaster board is put into there, it's spun,
Speaker 3: it spins off the paper, it leaves you with the gybsum.
Speaker 3: The gybsum can go for processing for fertilizers and in agriculture.
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. You know, it's completely recoverable,
Speaker 3: so there's to be fair. I don't actually believe in
Speaker 3: zero waste as a concept. You know, when I'm sweeping
Speaker 3: up the stuff that's on the floor of my workshop,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, for all the goodwill in the world. I
Speaker 3: don't know who wants that or could use that for anything.
Speaker 3: But when I went the other day with some timber,
Speaker 3: some plaster board, some off cut metal, a little bit
Speaker 3: of green waste, you know, some offcuts from pipework and
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. Everything I've just listed there doesn't
Speaker 3: have to go to landfill. You just need to take
Speaker 3: it somewhere where they're going to look after it. Oh,
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 3: Quite a few texts too on the venting, so we'll
Speaker 3: come to that in the moment, but right now your
Speaker 3: opportunity to have your say, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
Speaker 3: is the number to call back in a.
Speaker 6: Moment doing other house extorting.
Speaker 1: The garden asked Pete for a hand the resident builder
Speaker 1: with Peter Wolfcap call eighty eight us dogs V.
Speaker 3: I got to say, y, I just despair, right, So
Speaker 3: I get this text Pete. One reason people just dump
Speaker 3: everything is because the people at work at the recycling
Speaker 3: centers are usually not pleasant to deal with. They usually
Speaker 3: just grunt and point at the christ Church sites. I
Speaker 3: really do to spare it that text. So you know
Speaker 3: the person whose job it is to fossic through your rubbish,
Speaker 3: you're complaining that maybe they're not the most pleasant person
Speaker 3: to deal with when you do the bloody job. Then oh,
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 3: It's twenty minutes after seven. If you've got a question
Speaker 3: about a building nature, of any building nature, you can
Speaker 3: call us. Now remember too, about ten minutes away from
Speaker 3: j from Razim joining us. Any specific painting questions are
Speaker 3: the texts that came in. I'm wanting to build a
Speaker 3: luvered purglar goola outside on my deck against my boundary fence,
Speaker 3: as I understand it my local council rules. As I
Speaker 3: understand my local council rules, I'll need a resource consent
Speaker 3: building two different things so close to the boundary, considering
Speaker 3: it's easily dismantled structure. Should I just make sure my
Speaker 3: neighbors are harry happy and not tell the council. Of course,
Speaker 3: you're entitled to do that well, you're not entitled, but
Speaker 3: you could try and do that. So typically the things
Speaker 3: that would trigger possibly a resource consent, but most definitely
Speaker 3: a building consent is the proximity to the boundary and
Speaker 3: the fact that what you're building has got a roof
Speaker 3: on it, even if it's luvid and which might mean
Speaker 3: that you could close it. And it's more about the
Speaker 3: proximity to the boundary, because chances are if it's on
Speaker 3: a deck against the boundary, the deck's already a couple
Speaker 3: of one hundred mil off the ground. Add a two
Speaker 3: point two to two point four structure to that, you'd
Speaker 3: be getting pretty close to heightened relation to boundary and
Speaker 3: the proximity to the boundary. So typically you're allowed to
Speaker 3: build structures that if they fell over, wouldn't fall onto
Speaker 3: the neighbors. Kind Of my really simple interpretation of the
Speaker 3: legislation around planning rules that if it falls over, it's
Speaker 3: ownly going to land on your property. If it's right
Speaker 3: on the boundary and it's tall, that falls over, it
Speaker 3: could land on your neighbors. So yes, I think that
Speaker 3: what you are proposing would probably need a building consent.
Speaker 3: It may not need a resource consent unless you're in
Speaker 3: a heritage zone or something like that, or your exceeding
Speaker 3: site coverage. But generally I think it'll certainly require a
Speaker 3: building consent. Another text that came through is there a
Speaker 3: requirement to have a turning area down a drive to
Speaker 3: a back section.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Typically all of the consents that I've seen for sort
Speaker 3: of subdivisions. Let's say where there's been one house and
Speaker 3: there's now three, or sections are being combined and there's
Speaker 3: a right of way which gives access to a rear property.
Speaker 3: If there's parking, there will need to be the provision
Speaker 3: for the vehicle to get into the garage and then
Speaker 3: be able to reverse out and drive out onto the
Speaker 3: road nose first. So that's typically the requirement. Some of
Speaker 3: the turning angles are not particularly wide and in some
Speaker 3: cases not interesting. There was on fair Go a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago where someone bought a property down a
Speaker 3: right of way had a garage turning area, but they
Speaker 3: found that their car physically wouldn't be able to fit
Speaker 3: in or turn around. So planners work on a sort
Speaker 3: of I think it's like a ninety percent of vehicles
Speaker 3: are likely to fit in here type rule. But yeah, generally,
Speaker 3: if you've got a right of way that gives access
Speaker 3: to a rear property, there needs to be provision for
Speaker 3: the car to reverse out of the garage or parking
Speaker 3: area and drive out forwards, not having to reverse down
Speaker 3: a long right of way. In some cases you can
Speaker 3: achieve that by having a turntable, but they are a
Speaker 3: little bit uncommon in most subdivisions to be fair. But
Speaker 3: thanks very much for the question, Carol, great question from you.
Speaker 3: How are you this morning?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm always happy on a Sunday. I like your
Speaker 8: program in the car. I think program. Well, I didn't
Speaker 8: want to phone in, but it may help somebody. How
Speaker 8: would you suggest a p before you pay the painter
Speaker 8: and decorator. It's the final payment and it's completed the painting.
Speaker 8: You know job that you have, How would you know.
Speaker 3: That it's a good job. It's a great question.
Speaker 15: I know the answer, but understand Okay.
Speaker 3: I guess if you feel that you don't have the experience,
Speaker 3: then I guess there's two avenues. One is if the
Speaker 3: person happens to be a member of, for example, the
Speaker 3: Master Painters Association, you could ask the Master Painters to
Speaker 3: send out a representative to assess effectively their members work.
Speaker 3: That would be one way of doing it. If the
Speaker 3: painter has used a particular brand of paint, you could
Speaker 3: then ask a representative from that company to come and
Speaker 3: do it and to be fair. And I'm happy to
Speaker 3: ask Jay this. I know when we've spoken, he will
Speaker 3: often be asked to go and have a look at
Speaker 3: at a paint finish. You know, the painter has done
Speaker 3: a job, they've used Razine paints, maybe the client's not
Speaker 3: happy with it, and so they'll ring Razine and one
Speaker 3: of their reps. And it's the same with Bryce. He
Speaker 3: will often end up saying, look, I had to go
Speaker 3: and look at a job where you know, maybe someone's
Speaker 3: maybe someone's a client like yourself, is not happy. And
Speaker 3: the painter says, well, it's the paint's problem. And you know,
Speaker 3: maybe the rep from the company goes out looks it
Speaker 3: and goes, actually, it's all about the application. It's a
Speaker 3: poor application, or there's bad preparation, or they haven't done
Speaker 3: two coats, or they haven't used the right product and
Speaker 3: that's why it's not good. So yeah, those, broadly speaking,
Speaker 3: those would be the two ways of doing it.
Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you a simple way and I'm quite
Speaker 8: concerned about the tradesmen who don't know have the job completed.
Speaker 8: Recommended by Razine who The painter was my son who
Speaker 8: did a eight thousand hour apprenticeship in the New Zealand
Speaker 8: Army as a painter and decorator. All he did was
Speaker 8: he went in. He just put the palm of his
Speaker 8: hand on the wall and he ran the palm of
Speaker 8: his hand down. He said, m'am, this painter and decorator
Speaker 8: has not done good preparation because it was all prety underneath.
Speaker 8: So he's painted because I'm my owner. He's painted here
Speaker 8: for me.
Speaker 11: Oh you want to run.
Speaker 8: Your hand down the paintmentish? Now it's a smooth that's
Speaker 8: the way to do it.
Speaker 3: Can I Can I be a bit cheeky and ask
Speaker 3: if your son's an eight thousand hour qualified painter and decorator,
Speaker 3: how come he didn't do it in the first place.
Speaker 8: Well, there were reasons.
Speaker 11: He was in Auckland.
Speaker 8: I really don't like mixing business.
Speaker 15: I'm not joking with family.
Speaker 8: It's quicker for me as to get the painter and
Speaker 8: decorator and he goes home for the day. But I
Speaker 8: certainly do anything for me. They stay for a weekend
Speaker 8: across me a fortune to people.
Speaker 11: The old lady.
Speaker 3: No, no, I think it's delightful to be fair. But yeah,
Speaker 3: look in terms of you know, to answer your question,
Speaker 3: I think that if you if you're you're concerned about
Speaker 3: the quality of the work done, didn't know, then then
Speaker 3: if someone is a master painter or they're part of
Speaker 3: that group, you could get one of you or get
Speaker 3: a rep from the company. That's a great question.
Speaker 8: That's the point before you pay the final payment. I'm
Speaker 8: saying anyone out there on their own light men to
Speaker 8: get someone and just to give you a final And look, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I've deliberately stayed away from saying, you know, get
Speaker 3: another painter to check the work, because it's hard for people.
Speaker 3: I think it's hard for people to be impartial about
Speaker 3: other people's work. Right, So potential, please, how simple it was?
Speaker 8: He just Rainy's that's right, said the preparations good?
Speaker 15: It was greasy that that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, good point. Appreciate the call, Carol. You have
Speaker 3: a great day to take care of them, Zia. Actually
Speaker 3: great texts coming through two round extraction ventilation. We'll have
Speaker 3: a look at that, right, we might well take a
Speaker 3: short break we've got Jay waiting. We're going to rattle
Speaker 3: through your texts. Still time for a couple more texts
Speaker 3: on nine two nine two, so zbzb from your mobile phone.
Speaker 3: Any of you painting specific painting questions, Jay will join
Speaker 3: us in just a.
Speaker 1: Moment, whether you're painting with ceiling, fixing with fens, or
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the wall.
Speaker 3: Give Peter wolf Gabber call on.
Speaker 1: Eighty the resident builder on news Dogs B.
Speaker 3: Indeed you were with news Talk, said beat as seven
Speaker 3: thirty two and this is my great pleasure as always
Speaker 3: to welcome to the program, Jay from Razine. How you doing, Jay, I'm.
Speaker 16: All good, mat How are you?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Not too chevy? Not too chevy? And can we just
Speaker 3: pick up on that last caller actually who said, Look,
Speaker 3: how do I know if I've got a good paint job?
Speaker 3: So you know, let's say you're a client and you
Speaker 3: engage a painter and they come and do a job,
Speaker 3: and you're about to sign you know, the check for
Speaker 3: the last payment, and you're kind of wondering, is it
Speaker 3: any good like? Have they done a good job? What
Speaker 3: would what would your advice be?
Speaker 16: Look at it? Usually if if the if the paint
Speaker 16: looking a bit see through, or you're concerned about the coverage,
Speaker 16: it usually needs a bit more paint. Yes, So if
Speaker 16: things are looking a little bit light in areas, then
Speaker 16: potentially it might just need another another coat on there.
Speaker 16: And there are things that go with that critical like
Speaker 16: in cause an issue with things looking like it needs
Speaker 16: more paint, But it's really the design of the bill,
Speaker 16: or the time of the day with the light coming
Speaker 16: through windows or shining down stairwells.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 16: Or if it's a textured surface, it can look like
Speaker 16: there's not enough paint on there, when in fact there's plenty.
Speaker 16: It's just a texture. But I said, generally, if it
Speaker 16: looks a little bit thin and you're a bit concerned,
Speaker 16: speak about in and I'll generally put another coat on.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, awesome, that's great. So we've got a bunch
Speaker 3: of texts to rip through, so in no particular order.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting one. The text is very brief. My
Speaker 3: deck doesn't get a lot of sun. Do I need
Speaker 3: to stay.
Speaker 16: Well, I'd imagine it probably needs to clean. If it's
Speaker 16: not getting much sun. There's like this a bit of
Speaker 16: moisture and potential mold and might be a little bit slippy. Generally,
Speaker 16: applying a stain will help with sort of mold in
Speaker 16: fung the end stuff sort of an algae building up
Speaker 16: on the surface.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 16: And it's also kind of helps protect the actual timber
Speaker 16: itself and help preserve it. So I would say yes,
Speaker 16: But again, lots of people do like that sort of
Speaker 16: natural silver look at the timber.
Speaker 3: Until they get all the mold growth and then they
Speaker 3: go oh okay, which leads me nicely into my next question.
Speaker 3: An existing Quela decking twenty years so that it's known right, well,
Speaker 3: it's still sound, but it is standing to crack, do
Speaker 3: you recommend painting for longevity? And if yes, what paint system?
Speaker 3: This is from Chris? Can I add maybe we should well,
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, you could paint it, but almost nobody
Speaker 3: would it. Typically with hard.
Speaker 16: Words you would stay yeah, I would say stain it right. Obviously,
Speaker 16: timber expands and contracts for a year anyway, and if
Speaker 16: you've got splits and cracks, they expand and contract at
Speaker 16: different rates. So if you paint it, chances are that
Speaker 16: clack's going to become pretty visible fairly quickly, especially with
Speaker 16: if you look at the summer we've just had in
Speaker 16: the rain we've sort of got yesterday. The timber will
Speaker 16: be moving all over the place at the moment, whereas stain,
Speaker 16: you're not going to see that sort of flakiness and
Speaker 16: break down that you get a paint around those areas.
Speaker 16: So if you stay in it, I think it will
Speaker 16: look better.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Again, it's kind of personal preference. Some people prefer the
Speaker 16: look of paint, I'm very much or timber stain. It
Speaker 16: it looks really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and I think maintenance wise, long term, certainly
Speaker 3: stain is possibly more maintainable as in a thorough clean
Speaker 3: and a reapplication of the same system is possibly simpler
Speaker 3: than standing prepping, you know, top coding with a paint finish.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, and obviously stained, so you have to restain
Speaker 16: every couple of years, every two to three summers. But
Speaker 16: I mean you need to really clean it every year
Speaker 16: so you can kind of see in judge for how
Speaker 16: it's looking. And just realistically, if you keep up with
Speaker 16: just supply another coat staying every couple of years, it
Speaker 16: looks good and the timber last longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right. Susie sent through a text good morning,
Speaker 3: which is nice. Is there any way to paint kitchen
Speaker 3: cupboards that have laminate on them, just trying to refresh
Speaker 3: a kitchen from Susie.
Speaker 16: Yeah, we've got a few different systems. I think Ze
Speaker 16: master Stroke has a couple of videos from a couple
Speaker 16: of X Block contestants doing their kitchen and another DJ
Speaker 16: from a different radio stations as well.
Speaker 3: Think is the preparation in the first coat the key
Speaker 3: in terms of literally the keys and keying into that surface.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's the first goat. Is the sort of a
Speaker 16: degent coat that's going to really bind the whole system together.
Speaker 16: And then top coat options. There's a couple of different ones. Realistically,
Speaker 16: the best system you're looking at a two pot system
Speaker 16: just for longevity obviously, like there's a you could use
Speaker 16: Lusticra and a Namakrell, but with cleaning and constant use,
Speaker 16: it's going to lead it needs a lot more maintenance. Sure,
Speaker 16: so there's sort of two pot industrial coatings a little
Speaker 16: bit better for durability, but it obviously takes a bit
Speaker 16: more preparation and just a little bit more knowledge around
Speaker 16: mixing the product and applying it, and you need a
Speaker 16: bit more smell.
Speaker 3: Right in application. If you did go down the two
Speaker 3: pot and you've got a large flat surfa. It's like
Speaker 3: a drawer front or a door. Would you roll or brush?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 16: Generally brush? Yeah, sorry, generally you brush sort of the
Speaker 16: edges and stuff, but most people end up rolling it. Yeah,
Speaker 16: you just got to be careful. You apply the product
Speaker 16: and then lay it off in one direction, so it
Speaker 16: just helps smooth it all out. And look, look even
Speaker 16: in you.
Speaker 3: Gotcha brilliant, right Marty texts Hey, guys, question for j please.
Speaker 3: I have a commercial diamond deck roof, so a long
Speaker 3: run metal profile with extensive surface rust. Ideally I'd like
Speaker 3: to get a few more years out of it. Would
Speaker 3: there be a product to slow or stop the rusting
Speaker 3: process from Mardi?
Speaker 16: Realistically, with rust, you've got to kind of we've got
Speaker 16: three m RUSS removal pads to go on, sort of
Speaker 16: mechanical tools to stand it and remove it. Yeah, you
Speaker 16: really want to remove it. If you just try and
Speaker 16: put something over it, it's still there and it's going
Speaker 16: to not go anywhere, just get worse. I suppose, yes,
Speaker 16: So ideally you want to be removing all the rust
Speaker 16: before you apply anything. It depends on a lot of
Speaker 16: the time. With the roofs, it's just a bit of
Speaker 16: surface rust that you can tend to remove with like
Speaker 16: a three M scarm pad or a RUSS removal pad.
Speaker 16: We've got a couple of different products you could spot
Speaker 16: prime those areas with. You've got armor X ruff seeler,
Speaker 16: We've got GP metal primers another did one go over it?
Speaker 16: The best system that we tend to recommend for roofs
Speaker 16: in that sort of condition is, again it's back to
Speaker 16: industrial product, but animastic. It's two port that just ends
Speaker 16: up extending the life of the roof.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's cool in that way, but again, take.
Speaker 16: Take pictures into a color shop, share the staff, ask
Speaker 16: for some advice.
Speaker 3: I send you a picture of my garage roof which
Speaker 3: looks more red than steel. Maybe I'll flick through talking
Speaker 3: about painting roofs. But this is slightly different. So nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety six are almost thirty year old color steel or
Speaker 3: a coated roof, not in bad condition, but there is
Speaker 3: some oxidation. What's the prep? And I know there's a
Speaker 3: specific primer for color steel or coated products.
Speaker 16: So best prep is it reallys a real good clean
Speaker 16: to remove that oxilosation in any surface contaminants. So we've
Speaker 16: got razine paint prep in the house.
Speaker 11: Wash that.
Speaker 16: You know, people just get up there with the water blaster,
Speaker 16: but you really need to agitate the clean on the
Speaker 16: surface to remove that oxidization right. Then washed down and
Speaker 16: then yes, the primer is resin pre coated steel primer,
Speaker 16: which is it's sort of white in color, so more
Speaker 16: and more people are starting to go lighter colors, so
Speaker 16: it's just good to help with coverage with that, and
Speaker 16: then top coat summit roof.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, perfect, but it's.
Speaker 16: Lots of roof questions at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I guess too. You know, people are
Speaker 3: looking at a roof that's getting to the end of
Speaker 3: its life, thinking if I can eke it out a
Speaker 3: few more years. It's not a bit.
Speaker 16: Yeah my roofs for nineteen ninety two. Yep, it's looking
Speaker 16: like I get it cleaned yearly. But I'm starting to
Speaker 16: think about realistically it should start looking at painting it
Speaker 16: just so much longer.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess this is that classic thing around
Speaker 3: paint surfaces is often we wait until they've degraded and
Speaker 3: then we maintain them. Whereas I think what you're saying
Speaker 3: is that you know, you know where this is heading, right,
Speaker 3: we're on a particular path. Why not get ahead of
Speaker 3: that and before the roof or the painted surface or
Speaker 3: your windows and that are really in poor condition. Do
Speaker 3: the maintenance a little bit earlier and that will stop
Speaker 3: some of that long term damage. Is kind of how
Speaker 3: I would say that.
Speaker 16: Like regular cleaning and maintenance just makes everything last longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 11: Oat.
Speaker 3: Now, fifty year old cedar vertical above a garage door
Speaker 3: too soft to scrape off the old paint, so they
Speaker 3: used a heat gun. They've got some oil based primer
Speaker 3: peel off in places. Question one, how do I get
Speaker 3: the failed primer off? In two? What new primer to use?
Speaker 3: Fifty year old seat?
Speaker 16: You might have a couple of issues if you're not careful.
Speaker 16: I suppose we've got a paint stripper called Sea to Sky,
Speaker 16: which is a gel based, water based paint stripper.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 16: It's easier to control, especially on sort of vertical surfaces
Speaker 16: because it's gel. It kind of sits there a bit
Speaker 16: more rather than a lot of paint strippers a lot
Speaker 16: more liquid and just run down. Yeah, anything you're going
Speaker 16: to kind of do is with it being fifty year
Speaker 16: old and really, you've got pretty high potential of you're
Speaker 16: going to have to be careful so you don't really
Speaker 16: gouge and damage to see that. Sure once you get
Speaker 16: it off, I mean if it's failing as well, it
Speaker 16: might start coming off quite easily. H Obviously, sandings hard
Speaker 16: because it just kind of clogs up the paper pretty quickly.
Speaker 16: So this kind of seed the sky to strip it,
Speaker 16: and then you would be using razine wood primer, an
Speaker 16: oil based primer.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just sinking at the time. I think we
Speaker 3: can race through these two. Thanks for that. What product
Speaker 3: do we use to paint and seal the inside of
Speaker 3: a concrete water tank? I mean, would you have to
Speaker 3: go there or would you use them? Yeah? If you
Speaker 3: were going to paint it, what would you do?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 16: Sort of none of our decorative paints. I suppose the
Speaker 16: water going to be held inside.
Speaker 3: This, I to speak, So I wonder if it's for drinking,
Speaker 3: use you you'd want to go for a bladder or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 16: I think, yeah, I would the same with paint in
Speaker 16: the outside. You've got share seal and lumbersider to sort
Speaker 16: of go on the outside, but generally there's so much
Speaker 16: moisture involved with it, the paint ends up breaking down,
Speaker 16: it ends up looking quite a mess. That's why most
Speaker 16: of them aren't painted, and you end up putting up
Speaker 16: screens or sort of foliage or something on the outside
Speaker 16: to cover it, or just leave it. I mean, you
Speaker 16: can paint it, but it will need maintenance, all right.
Speaker 3: Last one this morning morning, got an old wooden garage
Speaker 3: folding door. So I presume probably like a cedar, I
Speaker 3: would say, if it's an older one, the old paint's
Speaker 3: flaking off, should I scrape it down? Should I use
Speaker 3: an oil based undercoat and top coat, or would a
Speaker 3: good stain be sufficient to protect the wood.
Speaker 11: Stain?
Speaker 16: All of the razine stains are penetrating, so you need
Speaker 16: to remove anything that's film forming on the surface. A
Speaker 16: lot of the time with those garage doors, it could
Speaker 16: be that was stained previously and then somebody's just chucked
Speaker 16: a coat of paint on and it's not compatible and
Speaker 16: that's why it's flaking and coming off. Okay, so again
Speaker 16: you'd be back to kind of a paint stripper to
Speaker 16: remove what's on there, or depending on how the timber is,
Speaker 16: you could stand it. And then if everything's been removed,
Speaker 16: if you're going to stain it, you could stain it
Speaker 16: with one of the Woodsman states, or if you're going
Speaker 16: to paint it, you're back to Razine wood primer and
Speaker 16: then probably lust the crewl over the top.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold you for one more question because it's
Speaker 3: such a doozy morning. Can you please explain why the
Speaker 3: paint on our house, the timber house is cracking After
Speaker 3: a few months of application. We sanded, primed, and painted.
Speaker 3: The splitting. Crazing is an areas where the house gets
Speaker 3: full sun. Gee, what do you think?
Speaker 16: I suppose it's again. If you've got pictures, you could
Speaker 16: send them through or the advice line on the Razine website,
Speaker 16: or go in to your local shop. A lot of
Speaker 16: the time like that, it's back to after this summer.
Speaker 16: There's a lot of timber movement. If there's splits and
Speaker 16: cracks along the grain of the timber, it's likely to
Speaker 16: be the timber itself that's moving right, and that's what's
Speaker 16: causing the paint to crack. If it's kind of crazy cracking,
Speaker 16: it could be the top coat's gone over the oil
Speaker 16: based primer too soon, and that's kind of effect of
Speaker 16: the paint really, it's a couple of things. It might be,
Speaker 16: especially if it's only on that side with the sun. Yes,
Speaker 16: it could be the it was too hot at the
Speaker 16: time of painting and that's affected the paint as it's
Speaker 16: gone on. But if you take some pictures and go
Speaker 16: into the color shop and they might be able to
Speaker 16: give you a bit more advice.
Speaker 3: Brilliant, brilliant. Thank you Jay as always, you know you
Speaker 3: get a busy day, have a great day. Thank you
Speaker 3: and news talks. He'd be that's j from Razine Color Shops,
Speaker 3: and I think he's absolutely spot on there. If you
Speaker 3: do have a particular question like that previous texture around,
Speaker 3: you know, failure of the paint system within seemingly a
Speaker 3: couple of months, take some photographs, you know on our
Speaker 3: phones these days, wander on and seek a bit of
Speaker 3: professional advice from the team at the Razine Color Shops. Right,
Speaker 3: oh to seven forty seven. We're taking your calls. Eight
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Someone's
Speaker 3: just quickly text through. Had the same problem. It was
Speaker 3: the wrong primer. Interesting now that may or may not
Speaker 3: be the case, but yeah, interesting, oh eight hundred eighty
Speaker 3: ten eighty the number to call. We're taking your calls
Speaker 3: all things building construction, and we did, as response to
Speaker 3: a couple of texts, talk a little bit about waste minimization.
Speaker 3: This is a bit of a it's going to say
Speaker 3: it's a buzzword. It shouldn't be. It's not a buzzword.
Speaker 3: This is I think this is really important, right, and
Speaker 3: I think going forward, one of the things that we're
Speaker 3: likely to see I hope actually on building consents and
Speaker 3: so on going forward is questions from clients or architects,
Speaker 3: or specifiers or project managers to contractors, how are you
Speaker 3: managing your waste right? Like do you have a process
Speaker 3: in place? Do you have a system where you go,
Speaker 3: you know, I collect up the cardboard boxes from all
Speaker 3: the light fittings and I make sure that that gets recycled.
Speaker 3: Or if you're a plumber, do you keep your PVC
Speaker 3: offcuts which are recyclable and send them somewhere for recycling
Speaker 3: or deliver them to a center that does recycling. You know,
Speaker 3: if you're doing demolition, do you try and separate out
Speaker 3: some of the materials and those items that can be
Speaker 3: recycled or repurposed? Do you send those away for that
Speaker 3: rather than just sending everything to landfall, which I think
Speaker 3: is appalling to be blunt. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It's eleven minutes away
Speaker 3: from eight o'clock. Call us now, oh eight hundred eighty
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Squeaky door or squeaky floor?
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder
Speaker 1: on Newstalk SB.
Speaker 3: Just another quick text on the painting, because I've just
Speaker 3: done this myself another job. Get a pigmented, sealed and
Speaker 3: then sanded new jib in a bathroom? Can I put
Speaker 3: two or three coats of mold protected top coat, like
Speaker 3: a low sheene on the ceilings and the walls, all
Speaker 3: one color from Chris. Have a look at what I
Speaker 3: use just last year, razine velvet, which is a water
Speaker 3: born enamel with It's a relatively flat product in terms
Speaker 3: of sheen, but it's got the durability. I think that
Speaker 3: sometimes using a really flat product on the walls, particularly
Speaker 3: in an area that gets a bit of you know,
Speaker 3: steam and so on in a bathroom, sheene typically gives
Speaker 3: you protection, right, It's more durable. So what I used
Speaker 3: was the velvet room velvet. It's called and it worked
Speaker 3: really really well on the ceiling, so maybe that's a
Speaker 3: better option than trying to do too much flat around
Speaker 3: the room. Grant Greetings, A.
Speaker 6: Face the team, right Corn. Sure, I've got a seepage problem,
Speaker 6: and it's coming from I've bought the house, so I
Speaker 6: know you read part of it.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 6: But I just want to know that I'm a builder,
Speaker 6: d Mayer. I just want to know that what I'm
Speaker 6: doing is I'm on the right track. So I've got
Speaker 6: old concrete wall wing wall at the end of the house,
Speaker 6: and the garage is on top yep. And down down
Speaker 6: the bottom con set the first floor is a bathroom
Speaker 6: and then on the corridor is wardrobe.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 6: Now, the water that I found seeping through came through
Speaker 6: the wardrobe because the bathroom is tiled floor or the
Speaker 6: proof got it the meat sheets. So it's not going
Speaker 6: to come out, That's what I'm feeling. It's not going that.
Speaker 6: I know behind there will be bed but I only
Speaker 6: can see it in the wardrobe. What I've done, I've
Speaker 6: gone upstairs and I've uncovered the outside of the wall
Speaker 6: and I've seen what I've done. Now tank and I'll
Speaker 6: perfect drainage against it. Everything's done what I think has
Speaker 6: done to the code properly.
Speaker 10: Just a bit of a hard life will leave the pain.
Speaker 3: Sure. So the block wall around the perimeter is part
Speaker 3: of it below ground, so it's acting as a retaining wall.
Speaker 6: Yes, now it's not exactly a block wall. I've done
Speaker 6: it with old shut I've done it with the shutters.
Speaker 3: Okay, so cast wall.
Speaker 6: Yep, it's solid cock red wall and it's underground, right
Speaker 6: side buried, and it's ten it's got one hundred mill
Speaker 6: of drainage for storrowing up against it right around the wall.
Speaker 6: But what what I've done it. Also on top of
Speaker 6: that wall is my portal a floor from the kitchen.
Speaker 6: It goes out three meters, it connects to the top
Speaker 6: of that wall and then shoots out with another fourteen
Speaker 6: going around the kitchen. So in my own right, because
Speaker 6: you put the you put your your your BBC paper
Speaker 6: or your black paper as you do, underneath the concrete
Speaker 6: and bring it up.
Speaker 11: Stay on.
Speaker 3: Just that we're going to run into the into the news.
Speaker 3: And just a moment, I wonder whether instead of looking
Speaker 3: for leaks that might be coming through the wall, I
Speaker 3: wonder whether you should look at flashings and junctions above
Speaker 3: it and see whether that's where water is coming from
Speaker 3: as well. You know, if you've got if you think
Speaker 3: the waterproofing's good, and you've got drainage coil of some
Speaker 3: description and it's actually draining properly, then I wonder whether
Speaker 3: it's a leak coming from somewhere else. So I'd spend
Speaker 3: my time looking at flashings back after the.
Speaker 1: Break, helping you get those DIY projects done right. The
Speaker 1: resident builder with peta Wolfcat call, oh eight eighteen, you've
Speaker 1: talked Zva.
Speaker 3: Well, a very good morning. Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: My name's pig Wolf Campus is the resident builder. On Sunday,
Speaker 3: we're going to change gears as we always did about
Speaker 3: eight thirty this morning, a red Climb Past will be
Speaker 3: joining us. We can talk all things gardening in the
Speaker 3: wonderful world of bugs from eight thirty, but right now
Speaker 3: we're talking building and actually just listening to the weather
Speaker 3: forecast for Auckland. Anyway, pretty fine day, which is good
Speaker 3: because I've got to race home, grab the trailer, shoot
Speaker 3: up to a garage and pick up four hundred meters.
Speaker 3: I think of Carrie Tongue grew flooring that I've been
Speaker 3: storing for a mate who's getting guys into lay it
Speaker 3: tomorrow for an extension, So right, I'm going to do that,
Speaker 3: and then I might fossick around in my own workshop
Speaker 3: and finish painting my one hundred and forty odd meters
Speaker 3: of tongue and groove decking that I want to prime
Speaker 3: before I start fixing that down. So alright, yoh, I
Speaker 3: hope you haven't rest for Sunday. I don't think I
Speaker 3: will be, but that's all right. Oh eight hundred and
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty the number to call and Peter, good morning.
Speaker 15: Good morning, Peter, greetings, thanks for waving. You're you're welcome.
Speaker 15: I loved down in Moscow to some land from Dunedin.
Speaker 15: You've been in the house over thirty years and I
Speaker 15: learned in the nineties that had to use oil based
Speaker 15: primer on wood and then a couple of coats of
Speaker 15: acrylic over top of it. But the most I could
Speaker 15: get out of it was about eight to ten years
Speaker 15: before it would start to deteriorate. And only what I've
Speaker 15: got is on facial boards and Dutch gables. Everything else,
Speaker 15: the block work, the facial boards, particularly on this on
Speaker 15: the garage which was close to a neighbor's hawthorn hedge.
Speaker 15: The timber would start to split a weave at lengthways
Speaker 15: well the paint. The paint would appear to have cracks
Speaker 15: in it, but I think it was a timber moving.
Speaker 15: And about two years ago I had some I've grabbed
Speaker 15: some leftover linear board that I had from an extension
Speaker 15: down about eight years earlier. I had kept in another
Speaker 15: garage out of the weather, and I took the flashing
Speaker 15: off the Dutch gable and put this linear board up
Speaker 15: instead of the two hundred milimeter timber. I do not
Speaker 15: think the linear board might have been one eighty. But
Speaker 15: at the medicals are flashing cover cover the gap at
Speaker 15: the top, and it seems perfect. And I'm wondering what
Speaker 15: your thoughts are on it because the rest of the
Speaker 15: spature that holds the spouting where the horse on headge was,
Speaker 15: there's been borer and it needs replace.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, typically, if we're installing facia, we've got
Speaker 3: a safite, right, So do you have a safita at all.
Speaker 15: On the back of the garage. It's not right the frontiers.
Speaker 15: It's a block rough car coated garage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Now I'm just thinking. You know,
Speaker 3: like in most applications, you'd have a facier board that's
Speaker 3: outboard of the framing, and then you'll have a bit
Speaker 3: of safita And typically facial board's got a groove in
Speaker 3: it that allows you to drop the safita in and
Speaker 3: the linear might not. And I guess the other thing
Speaker 3: is linear is only up to four point eight meters,
Speaker 3: so if you've got you know, five meter gable, you've
Speaker 3: got to join, which you might not get if you
Speaker 3: a long length. But look in terms of durability and
Speaker 3: if it works for you, all power to you. O.
Speaker 15: I think it's a three car garage, so it's yeah
Speaker 15: to be joined anyway.
Speaker 3: That just makes many.
Speaker 15: But it seems to be very durable when you're aboard.
Speaker 15: Absolutely a life stand on it or is it?
Speaker 3: Well? I mean, look in terms of durability, it would
Speaker 3: have a minimum warranty requirement of fifteen years, but I
Speaker 3: think given how inherently stable fiber cement is, you could
Speaker 3: expect it to last a lot longer than that, particularly
Speaker 3: if you keep up with your coatings right. So I
Speaker 3: think when you start reading through the fine print of
Speaker 3: almost any exterior product, it often relates to coatings. And
Speaker 3: interestingly enough, I'm working another project which is a little
Speaker 3: bit related to weather tightness and durability. Right, and so
Speaker 3: I've had some building surveyors survey the building to prepare
Speaker 3: a report and they've also made recommendations. And it's interesting
Speaker 3: reading through it. And you know, the report's quite extensive,
Speaker 3: runs to thirty or forty pages, and it's interesting to
Speaker 3: see how much focus they put on the quality of
Speaker 3: the coatings and the maintenance of it. That almost regardless
Speaker 3: of what exterior product you might use, if you don't
Speaker 3: keep up the maintenance of it and particular coatings, it
Speaker 3: just won't perform.
Speaker 15: Yes, I had a fifty square meter edition done on
Speaker 15: the house of it. Next with this dreat linear came
Speaker 15: from yeah now the builder. Sorry, go ahead, the builder.
Speaker 15: I assisted on one of them, and you'll leave to
Speaker 15: start off with them, be you well. They are quite
Speaker 15: long spainsstel screws hold the linear board on. Is it
Speaker 15: a benefit to do that because the extension has been perfect,
Speaker 15: the paint hasn't deterror at all.
Speaker 6: I might do a bit to.
Speaker 15: Wash annually or great two years yep. As the benefit
Speaker 15: in using the screws movement goes.
Speaker 3: I know typically with the linear actually, as best I
Speaker 3: understand it's designed actually well, when the last time I
Speaker 3: used it, which was a few years ago, one of
Speaker 3: the benefits well, we could use it for a garage
Speaker 3: wall that was close to the boundary, so it gets
Speaker 3: a bit of fire rating as well. But in this
Speaker 3: particularly when I installed it, we only fixed through the
Speaker 3: top of the board right, so you didn't put any
Speaker 3: fixing through the bottom at all, and that seemed to work.
Speaker 3: If you do have to fix through the bottom of
Speaker 3: the board, then yeah, jolt screws have become a real
Speaker 3: thing over the last couple of years. I haven't had
Speaker 3: a chance to do that yet, but I've got this
Speaker 3: decking job to do. It's a replacement for some LSOP
Speaker 3: treatment decking that's failed. So I've got to pull the
Speaker 3: existing tongue and groove up and relay it. And I've
Speaker 3: bought new tongue in groove decking that's h three point
Speaker 3: two treated. I'm pre priming it and then I'm thinking
Speaker 3: I'll use jolt screws. Have a look for them online
Speaker 3: to fix it down with, because I think the binding,
Speaker 3: you know, the actual because they've got a counter threads,
Speaker 3: so they are actually drawing the two surfaces together. I
Speaker 3: can see the advantage of that. Check it out online, Peter,
Speaker 3: we've got to move on much. Appreciate it and good
Speaker 3: luck with that. Jillian, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 13: Yes, good morning teach. Hey there regarding waste minimalization. Yes,
Speaker 13: I've been watching a building getting demolished and it was
Speaker 13: miss about fifty years ago. So I've got a couple
Speaker 13: of questions. The roofing tiles. Are they reusable after fifty years?
Speaker 3: Often what will happen is they'll go to a demolition
Speaker 3: yard and people will buy them for repairs, right, So
Speaker 3: there's a value to that. The other thing is if
Speaker 3: they don't end up going and being resold, so there's
Speaker 3: a way of making some money out of them. They
Speaker 3: can be taken to plants that will crush them and
Speaker 3: turn them back into aggregate. It's really in some cases
Speaker 3: it can't necessarily crazy. Thing right now is that you're
Speaker 3: not allowed to use recycled material in new structural concrete
Speaker 3: to the best of my ability knowledge, right, you can
Speaker 3: use it for things like we've got them at the
Speaker 3: center large concrete blocks that we use as barriers. Right,
Speaker 3: So inter block for example, So they'll take old concrete,
Speaker 3: crush it and reuse it in a they make new
Speaker 3: concrete from it. But because it's nonstructural as such, you
Speaker 3: can use it there or you can use it just
Speaker 3: for hard felt, so again it doesn't need to go
Speaker 3: to landfill. It can be repurposed.
Speaker 13: Unfortunately, everything's going to learn for all. I think the timbers,
Speaker 13: the cost of deconstructing building, and obviously the.
Speaker 11: Labor cross it's quite high, yep, high and.
Speaker 13: Deterrent, and that might be a factor in the quote
Speaker 13: maybe why it's getting demolished. That's so there has been
Speaker 13: some recycling going on, and perhaps it's necessary because glass
Speaker 13: probably can't be mixed with timber and concrete and gone
Speaker 13: to land.
Speaker 3: Or I think ideally if we're doing you know, if
Speaker 3: we've got an idea around reducing the amount of material
Speaker 3: that goes to landfill at site, is when ideally you
Speaker 3: should be separating it, right so rather than I mean,
Speaker 3: there are commercial recyclers and recycling centers like the Resource
Speaker 3: Recovery in Devenport and the other resource recovery centers right
Speaker 3: across the country. You can bring a sorted waste in
Speaker 3: and they will sort it for you. But I think
Speaker 3: ideally we should be doing a lot more of that
Speaker 3: on So so you know, I've been to a cheaper Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been to a couple of really well organized sites.
Speaker 3: So for example, they'll ever been for timber, they'll ever
Speaker 3: been for hardfill. They might have been that's you know,
Speaker 3: cardboard and those sorts of things. I went to one
Speaker 3: commercial site, Naylor Love were doing a large commercial building
Speaker 3: at a university. They achieved ninety percent diversion from landfill
Speaker 3: by sorting on site. A ninety diversion from landfill is
Speaker 3: a staggering achievement.
Speaker 13: Context rules regarding that, do you know.
Speaker 3: There are no rules there should be. I agree with
Speaker 3: no rules, and.
Speaker 13: That's what I was concerned about. It thought there obviously
Speaker 13: are no council rules, and yet councils going through the
Speaker 13: motions well that they are actually doing modern emotions. But
Speaker 13: it's not much more in my opinions, because why it's
Speaker 13: minimization policy. Surely the major removal of houses for city
Speaker 13: for development, all these materials to go into landfill and
Speaker 13: the main surely councils should take a lead role in it,
Speaker 13: and perhaps some rules.
Speaker 3: Even if it's not counsel. I think we I mean
Speaker 3: part of me hesitates to go we need more legislation,
Speaker 3: right because we shouldn't.
Speaker 13: We shouldn't need it. We should be doing it.
Speaker 3: I know ideally we should, but I think there's going
Speaker 3: to be a bit of carrot and stick, right. So
Speaker 3: I think that if you're a client and you're engaging
Speaker 3: with a builder or a contractor to do renovations, one
Speaker 3: of the questions I think you should be asking now
Speaker 3: is what are you doing with the waste? Right? And
Speaker 3: a lot of builders that I know are equally passionate
Speaker 3: or engaged in this process, and they'll say, look, we'll
Speaker 3: use this particular company because they recycle or they divert
Speaker 3: or this is my process, this is what I do.
Speaker 3: But I think as clients we should be asking that question.
Speaker 3: As contractor costs, Yes, there is a cost, but you
Speaker 3: know there's also a cost to us just sending all
Speaker 3: of this material to landfill, right, whether that's an environmental cost,
Speaker 3: cost of transport, et cetera, et cetera. And you know
Speaker 3: we're looking at and there's just and this tremendous waste, right,
Speaker 3: So this is one of the benefits, for example, of
Speaker 3: off site manufacture where processes that are managed in a
Speaker 3: factory are often more efficient and have less waste than
Speaker 3: on site.
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, So what could council do as an incentive?
Speaker 13: Even I don't expect you to have the answer, there's
Speaker 13: to be some encouragement to people who property developers who
Speaker 13: want to remove a house and have three builds on
Speaker 13: the site. There might be some way that could some
Speaker 13: of the cost.
Speaker 3: Possibly there'll be that. I think what we're the more
Speaker 3: blunt lever is the waste levey, right, So that's a
Speaker 3: charge per ton of material that goes over away bridge
Speaker 3: into a transfer station on its way to a landfill
Speaker 3: that's probably just going to keep going up and up
Speaker 3: and up.
Speaker 13: So at the moment, aren't those landfills are they privately.
Speaker 3: Owned or owned almost all of the They're.
Speaker 13: Advantage to have as much waste coming in as possible.
Speaker 13: So would they want to raise a levy?
Speaker 11: I mean it's a very.
Speaker 3: Good point that you raise. No, if you're in the
Speaker 3: business of landfills, you know, do you want people diverting? No,
Speaker 3: you don't. But saying that most of the large companies
Speaker 3: that are involved in the space are actively trying to
Speaker 3: reduce waste as well.
Speaker 13: Do they want the land they wanted to operate as
Speaker 13: long as possible, I would imagine, Well, you know, there's
Speaker 13: also money to be made from waste recovery, right, So
Speaker 13: you know, if you're if you're charging a couple of
Speaker 13: hundred bucks for a nine meters skip, right, and then
Speaker 13: you're taking all of that and paying to dump it somewhere,
Speaker 13: or you're taking it and you're able to send plasterboard
Speaker 13: here and timber there, and metal there and cardboard there
Speaker 13: and plastic there, then you're not having to pay to
Speaker 13: dump it.
Speaker 3: Right, So you know, possibly there's when we say resource recovery,
Speaker 3: the idea is that all of this material, much of
Speaker 3: it has another life, and some of it has a
Speaker 3: financial value. So you know, if local recycling centers are
Speaker 3: collecting your metal and sending it away, they'll get something
Speaker 3: for that might not be a lot, but they will
Speaker 3: get something for it, and it's not going to landfill.
Speaker 3: And I think it's just that vision that I have
Speaker 3: of this vast quantity of material every single day going
Speaker 3: to landfill, that I'll.
Speaker 13: Be no cost for disposing of that under lential either.
Speaker 3: Recycling probably is well, that's right, there's there's a cost
Speaker 3: of recycling as well, but in general, I think we
Speaker 3: should have had that way, Gillian. I'm going to try
Speaker 3: and get to a couple of other calls before we
Speaker 3: go into the garden with red climb pass. Will take
Speaker 3: a short break. We'll be back with Bobby in just
Speaker 3: a moment.
Speaker 1: Measure twice God was but maybe called Pete first, be
Speaker 1: the wolf care the resident builder.
Speaker 11: News Talk said, be.
Speaker 3: Your news Talk said be. We've got shortly, so we'll
Speaker 3: trot through these I possibly can Bobby. Hello, good morning, Bobby,
Speaker 3: Thanks for waiting. How are you.
Speaker 17: I'm stabulous. I've been sitting here Arma aulling my cow.
Speaker 17: I've been waiting, so be quite friendous. It something you
Speaker 17: never get to do. Heson. I was calling about the
Speaker 17: guy that spoke about the pacola earlier and on the
Speaker 17: boundary at close to the boundary with his neighbor. Yes,
Speaker 17: I totally get not wanting to pay for counsel fees.
Speaker 17: But for anybody in that sort of similar scenario, getting
Speaker 17: getting permission from your neighbor is good obviously, But if
Speaker 17: you want to sell your house, ye, and it'll show
Speaker 17: them the council records that there's no permit for that
Speaker 17: particular whatever it is that you put there. Yes, they
Speaker 17: can either make you take it down or you can
Speaker 17: try and get it signed off and retrospect, which could
Speaker 17: cost you a bit of money anyway. But the other
Speaker 17: thing is that could actually also affect your insurance. If
Speaker 17: your pagola, if the roof flies off in a big
Speaker 17: storm and hits the house next door and damages it
Speaker 17: quite extensively, you won't have insurance. I'm pretty sure that,
Speaker 17: so you have to pay for the house next door,
Speaker 17: as well as the fact that your progoles shouldn't have
Speaker 17: been there or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think two banks now look at sort
Speaker 3: of you know, unauthorized works and that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: and are often really reluctant to loan on that. So yes,
Speaker 3: you're right out there and increasingly their risk averse and
Speaker 3: so having unconsented works. Where we used to take a
Speaker 3: sort of casual, lay safeer approach to it all, it's
Speaker 3: just a different environment now.
Speaker 17: So yeah, it is really you're better off spending the money,
Speaker 17: even though it just makes me cringe, but you're better
Speaker 17: off it's actually getting it complied, and then you can
Speaker 17: rest assure that.
Speaker 3: No matter what I think that's very wise.
Speaker 17: Thank you. But the other thing I was ann asked
Speaker 17: was what was that recycling thing called? Sorry I didn't
Speaker 17: hear I've heard it earlier and I was driving. I
Speaker 17: couldn't remember the one where the builders that's and pieces
Speaker 17: go to get recycled as opposed to use for landfill.
Speaker 17: What's that call to the places that already?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Green Gorilla does it. A couple of other companies
Speaker 3: do it. I mean green Gril is interesting because they
Speaker 3: have a large processing plant that does it automatically, right,
Speaker 3: so their separation happens inside the factory. What I'm involved in,
Speaker 3: and what we've been talking about, is your local community
Speaker 3: recycling centers so CRCs, which I'm familiar with in Auckland,
Speaker 3: but I think around the country there is a network
Speaker 3: of them. So there's an exceptional one, for example at Raglan,
Speaker 3: where I haven't been there yet, but it's it's a
Speaker 3: really good example of a sort of community run recycling
Speaker 3: center that's really passionate about reducing the amount of material
Speaker 3: that goes to landfill and rep purposing recycling existing materials.
Speaker 3: They're all around the country, so it shouldn't be too hard.
Speaker 3: We had a couple of techs, someone talking about one
Speaker 3: in Parmeston all someone else talking about one in christ Church.
Speaker 3: Someone complaining about grumpy people at the one in christ Church,
Speaker 3: which I think is just bloody absurd. But anyway, and
Speaker 3: you know, so they're out there, right. I think it's
Speaker 3: just that, I know, consciousness makes people cringe, but I
Speaker 3: think we're now at a point where we just can't
Speaker 3: ignore the fact that we just can't keep being as
Speaker 3: wasteful as we have been. Right and particularly when I
Speaker 3: you know, because I'm quite involved. I'm a trustee or
Speaker 3: I'm a board member of the trust that administers the
Speaker 3: Devenport Recycling Center, the Resource Recovery Devenport, you know, when
Speaker 3: you see what we're able to do, and the fact
Speaker 3: that you know, currently our diversion rates are seventy eight
Speaker 3: percent of all of the material that comes over the
Speaker 3: way bridge, seventy eight percent it's diverted from landfill. So
Speaker 3: that really it's pretty damn good, I think, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I just the sight of trucks just trundling
Speaker 3: off into the countryside and tipping stuff into a valley,
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's great. So we shouldn't be
Speaker 3: doing it. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 17: Thank and Huntly at the old Wedding's mine. And they've
Speaker 17: got apparently counsel permission to fill in the valleys if
Speaker 17: you like, they're not actually giving but to fill in
Speaker 17: the valley. So, like you said, to dump into something,
Speaker 17: then they have to cover it and they're not allowed
Speaker 17: to put a fist off them. But what's to say
Speaker 17: that they don't put you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That happens, but you know, and again, look, I'm not
Speaker 3: that wooly eyed individual that goes you know, personally, I
Speaker 3: suppose I should believe in zero waste, but I'm a
Speaker 3: practical person and I look at what I sweep up
Speaker 3: from the workshop floor and go, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: think anyone's really excited about taking that material. Right, So
Speaker 3: a certain amount is I think, practically speaking, is always
Speaker 3: going to end up in landfill. But you know, without
Speaker 3: too much effort, if you can get to seventy or
Speaker 3: eighty percent, And I mentioned I've been to a large
Speaker 3: commercial building done by Naylor Love and Auckland and they
Speaker 3: achieved ninety percent diversion from landfill. Right takes some effort,
Speaker 3: but it is possible. So we should be doing it,
Speaker 3: you know. Right rent Over, I'm going to go into
Speaker 3: the garden where it's all sweetness and light with rut
Speaker 3: and we'll talk about this on another day. Jillian, thank
Speaker 3: you very much for your comments. Ridioh. Fabulous morning of conversation.
Speaker 3: Let's get into the garden. Roots on standby, Let's rip
Speaker 3: into it. If you've got a question for it. Oh
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