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Speaker 2: Honoring You're welcome today. I got some workplace issues. One

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Speaker 2: we're taking a lot of drugs. Two apprentices and not

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Speaker 2: completing their training. Also, a lot of tax money has

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Speaker 2: been wasted on the self employed in his businesses then

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Speaker 2: fell over. We also look at a report into what

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Speaker 2: this country needs to do big picture before twenty fifty

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, Steve Price, Mark and Jenny there along as

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Speaker 2: well pasking welcome in the middle of the week seven

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Speaker 2: past six. Growing idea in economic circles in America that

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Speaker 2: young people might never own anything. It's based on recent

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Speaker 2: news that a new car average price has now cracked

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars for the first time. It was added

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Speaker 2: to by the presidential idea that we have fifty year

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Speaker 2: mortgages see and the States have got thirty years. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty standard, and they have the fixed interest rate that

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Speaker 2: lasts decades. Here, of course it's completely different, but it's

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Speaker 2: all based on the thinking that one more and more

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Speaker 2: people can't afford stuff, and two, if they can, they

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Speaker 2: will need to borrow basically forever to do it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The wisest piece of advice I ever got when I

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Speaker 2: was about eighteen years old. I was in the bank

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Speaker 2: trying to sort a mortgage and we were tossing numbers

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Speaker 2: I'd be paying, what I was borrowing, what the interest

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Speaker 2: rate was, what the monthly bill would be. And the killer,

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Speaker 2: the killer, the bit that showed just how much in

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Speaker 2: interest I would ultimately give to the bank over the

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Speaker 2: period of that debt. Needless to say, it was more

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Speaker 2: than the loan itself. Compound interest either your friend of

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Speaker 2: your saving your enemy if you're in debt. That pretty

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Speaker 2: much changed my view on debt. But a fifty year

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Speaker 2: mortgage is clearly designed to lull you into the idea

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Speaker 2: that things are affordable, just don't worry about ever paying

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Speaker 2: it off. It's probably why they're putting mortgages into the

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Speaker 2: school curriculum as we speak in Britain at the moment.

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Speaker 2: If every kid came out with just a basic idea

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Speaker 2: of the way things work in the real world, we

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Speaker 2: may solve ourselves a lot of long term issues and

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Speaker 2: a lot of personal heartache. And that's before we get

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Speaker 2: to the fact that a lot of this country so

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Speaker 2: called prosperity. It's a perception, and the perception is created

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Speaker 2: by the idea that you have more money simply because

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Speaker 2: somebody told you your house was worth more, or if

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Speaker 2: you're in the market and video for no particular reason

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Speaker 2: just added another nine zeros to their market cap. If

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Speaker 2: more people understood debt, both its options, it's pit falls,

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Speaker 2: upsides and problems, we would see the idea of a

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Speaker 2: fifty year mortgage for what it is. But basically, the

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Speaker 2: state of the world, both at personal and national level,

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Speaker 2: is the way it is because we don't.

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Speaker 1: News of the world. In ninety seconds, they.

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Speaker 2: Vote today on the Epstein files, so those who want

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Speaker 2: them all out turned up in Washington's your phrase, Brother.

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Speaker 4: Virginia's legacy is not just hers. It belongs to all

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Speaker 4: of us who stand against injustice. Together, we will ensure

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Speaker 4: that the voices of survivors are heard, that the truth prevails,

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Speaker 4: and that the horrors of the past are never repeated.

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Speaker 2: An Epstein victim, what.

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Speaker 3: We endured was real and it has scarred lives across

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Speaker 3: five presidential administrations. The truth has been buried in sealed

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Speaker 3: files and hidden records for far too long.

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Speaker 2: And Donald's old, my, Marjorie.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that will speak to the powerful, courageous

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Speaker 3: women behind me is when action is actually taken to

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Speaker 3: release these files, and the American people won't tolerate any

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Speaker 3: other bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Up the road. A couple of hounds. At the United Nations,

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Speaker 2: they voted successfully on the Trump Gaza Plan.

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Speaker 5: The Board of Peace, which will be led by President Trump,

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Speaker 5: remains the cornerstone of our effort. The Board will coordinate

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Speaker 5: the delivery of humanitarian assistants, facilitate Gaza's development, and support

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Speaker 5: a technocratic committee of Palestinians responsible for day to day operations.

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Speaker 2: Trouble with that is like a lot of votes at

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Speaker 2: the United Nations doesn't really mean anything. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: the folks in Gas.

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Speaker 6: The decision is of course rejected because the forces that

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Speaker 6: will come will protect Israel, not protect Gaza.

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Speaker 7: That's what.

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Speaker 8: This decision for me as a citizen, I absolutely reject it.

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Speaker 9: We don't want to outside.

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Speaker 2: Then in Britain, our new troubles from the Chinese with

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Speaker 2: warnings from mi I five.

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Speaker 6: This activity involves a covert and calculated attempt by a

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Speaker 6: foreign power to interfere with our sovereign affairs in favor

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Speaker 6: of its own interests, and this government will not tolerate it.

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Speaker 2: Finally, from our why the wheels of justice turned so slowly?

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Speaker 2: File convicted murderer Andre mckickney. He's suing the State of

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Speaker 2: Victoria for banning Fiji miight. He claims it breaches this

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Speaker 2: human right to enjoy his culture as an Australia no

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Speaker 2: ban to twenty years ago because it interferes with the

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Speaker 2: drug dogs and the yaster is an issue as well.

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for a bit of homebrew, if you

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Speaker 2: can believe that the Supreme Court will hear the case

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Speaker 2: next year, Here's of the World in ninety By the way,

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Speaker 2: On the same day that mister Pitchai is in Britain

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Speaker 2: talking with the BBC saying that quote, the trillion dollar

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Speaker 2: AI investment boom has quote elements of irrationality. We find

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Speaker 2: out that Microsoft has teamed up with Nvidia and Anthropic,

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Speaker 2: and Microsoft will invest five billion into Anthropic, and Nvidia

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Speaker 2: will invest ten billion, and Anthropic has committed to purchasing

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Speaker 2: thirty billion, and as a result of all of that,

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Speaker 2: the market cap four Anthropic is now three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars. Thank you very much. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Seppy Michael More. People understood that labor would not be

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Speaker 2: leading in the pulse. Not a bad point. India Blue

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Speaker 2: the budget deficit all time high for the month of

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Speaker 2: October forty one point seven billion dollars. What happened there? Well,

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Speaker 2: exports to the States went down for obvious reasons, but

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Speaker 2: they imported a lot of gold. How much gold did

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Speaker 2: they import? Fourteen point seven billion dollars worth of nearly

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Speaker 2: two hundred percent. Fifteen past six They're love and the

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Speaker 2: Gold thanks from Sure Partners. Andrew Keller had good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike, these this is going to be testing

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I think so.

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Speaker 11: Probably So another day, another global dairy trade auction and

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Speaker 11: the downwards trend and prices has continued overnight. So the

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Speaker 11: global dairy trade price index has fallen three percent.

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Speaker 11: Weaker prices, Mike, across all of the categories. Actually, butter

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Speaker 10: Look, the facts are with the last seven.

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Speaker 11: Auctions have all ended with a decline in the overall

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Speaker 11: that global milk production is out stripping demand at the moment. Recently,

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Speaker 11: Rubberbank did note that the velocity of milk supply growth

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Speaker 10: So I think you're probably right.

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Speaker 11: I think that farm that forecast farm gain milk price

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Speaker 11: But I just think we've got to be a little

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Speaker 11: bit We've got a bit realistic about this, Mike. Even

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Speaker 10: Prices are still very healthy. I guess you would.

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Speaker 11: Say that we need all the talents we can get

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Speaker 10: Point of view. Yeah, but prices are weaking off.

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Speaker 2: And Sandford good news story there turnaround.

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Speaker 11: Oh wasn't it so while we're talking about exporting animal proteins, Yes, Samford.

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Speaker 11: been around for one hundred and fifty years. Listed on

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Speaker 10: Being described as excellent.

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Speaker 11: The interesting point to note here, Mike, is revenue five

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Speaker 11: Scaler up. Yes, and that net debt number that you

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Speaker 10: Six reduced corporate overheads.

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Speaker 11: They in their commentary they talked about the ongoing global

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Speaker 11: demand for protein, but there was a note of caution

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Speaker 11: share price reacted pretty positively, up five point two percent.

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Speaker 11: Got to say, well done, Samford, that is a really

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Speaker 2: Did right. What about pledges?

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Speaker 11: Oh, look, there was a bit of nois yesterday about

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Speaker 11: development business. That's not news, MIC, It's been common knowledge

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Speaker 11: that they've been trying to sell it.

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Speaker 10: So I don't think there's really anything to see.

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Speaker 2: There, okay. And then there's still demand for the debt.

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Speaker 11: Mate Yesterday ends ADMO, that's the New Zealand Debt Management

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Speaker 11: Office have overseen, I would say, another very successful tender

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Speaker 11: of New Zealand government bonds. Now we've got a deficit,

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Speaker 11: we've got a fund it. We fund that by selling

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Speaker 11: New Zealand government bonds overseen and there is great demand

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Speaker 11: for our government securities. So they tend to bonds all

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Speaker 11: bigger tenders, so from time to time.

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Speaker 10: They sold six billion of ten year bonds.

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Speaker 11: Yesterday the government raised the cash at four point three

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Speaker 11: four percent, twenty four billion dollars worth of interest. There

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Speaker 11: is a very healthy market out there for our government debt.

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Speaker 2: MINK interesting good stuff. What are the numbers?

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Speaker 11: So yeah, weakness and still we're seeing this weakness in

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Speaker 11: the Nvidia result, and we've got all the starter coming

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Speaker 10: Of this week. But red numbers everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Back to Samford, So the goody, how do you turn

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Speaker 1: The newspeakers and the personalities, the big names talk to Mike,

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Speaker 2: So the turnaround journey is it complete or are we

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Speaker 13: We're on our way. We're about halfway through, whatever that means.

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Speaker 13: But it's very pleasing to have such a great result.

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Speaker 2: So by way of background, you came from another company,

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Speaker 13: If I was managing director of scalar Up for fourteen years.

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Speaker 2: Well that's encouraging. All I can do is wish the

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Speaker 2: Right the Epstein vote nineteen away from seven Richard.

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Speaker 2: That's the trick, but well done. Couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 14: Six forty five international correspondence with Ensit Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 14: of mind for New Zealand business, which.

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Speaker 2: Would good morning, it's a good oneyway. How's the Saudi

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Speaker 2: print settling into the yellow chairs.

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Speaker 9: Seems to be a happy chappy. But what a scene.

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Speaker 15: They had the brass band on the White House balcony,

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Speaker 15: the honor guard and the military jet flyover for the

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Speaker 15: arrival of the Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad bin Suloman.

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Speaker 9: Yeah they go the fighter jets. Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Trump is praising the Saudi leadership, including the Crown Prince's father.

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Speaker 16: He greet him at the airport at an age that

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Speaker 16: was pretty high up there, and it was about one

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Speaker 16: hundred and seventeen degrees and he was standing on the

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Speaker 16: red carpet as they came out of the plane.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, obviously Trump enjoyed the the meeting and the ceremony

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Speaker 15: that he was given on that trip earlier on. This

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Speaker 15: is the Saudi's first White House visit more than seven

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Speaker 15: years since just before Saudi's murdered Washington Post writer Jamalkas

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Speaker 15: Shogi and hacked him to bits in an assassination that

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Speaker 15: US intelligence say was ordered by Bin Sulmon. Ku Shoggi's widow,

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Speaker 15: Hannon says now that this lavish White House welcome is

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Speaker 15: one she finds quite very painful.

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Speaker 9: Bin Sulmon is hoping to.

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Speaker 15: Seal a deal for the purchase of F thirty five

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Speaker 15: Stealth Strike fighter jets. They are pledging in return more

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Speaker 15: investment in this country.

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Speaker 16: I want to just tell you what an honor is

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Speaker 16: to be your friend, and I very much appreciate the

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Speaker 16: investment of down one trillion dollars.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So I'm glad you got that out.

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Speaker 10: I didn't want to be the one to tell.

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Speaker 14: Them, but it's great notice to keep increasing with the president,

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Speaker 14: and at each time the opportunities are just increasing more

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Speaker 14: and more.

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Speaker 15: This is Trump towers are planned for Rea and Jedda,

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Speaker 15: and the Trump family also is a wedding word on

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Speaker 15: involvement in a sixty three billion US dollar government run

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Speaker 15: development in Saudi Arabia thraw company headed by Yes who'd

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Speaker 15: been Sulmon himself. The Saudis also gave because two billion

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Speaker 15: to Trump's son in law, Jared, So cash is flowing and.

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Speaker 2: We're standing by for the by what do you got

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, it's a bit over oil from now and

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Speaker 15: for months, of course, Donald Trump has been trying to

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Speaker 15: kill the move to release all of the files related

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Speaker 15: to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and his lyne cohort Ulaine Maxwell.

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Speaker 9: Now with an.

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Speaker 15: Expected surge of support for the release expected with a

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Speaker 15: vote coming up soon, Trump was cornered politically and says

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Speaker 15: he would now sign a measure to put those files out.

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Speaker 9: He says, I don't.

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Speaker 16: Take into whatever they want, so we'll give them everything. Sure,

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Speaker 16: I would let this sad look at it, let anybody

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Speaker 16: look at it, but don't talk about it too much

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Speaker 16: because honestly, I don't want to take it away from most.

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Speaker 15: Nother one to lose the spotlight. Seriously, leading up to

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Speaker 15: this vote. Many of the Epstein victims spoke at a

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Speaker 15: news conference held a short time ago. In front of

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Speaker 15: you was capital, said one of these women, who were

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Speaker 15: because school kids. When Epstein and Maxwell got the hooks

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Speaker 15: into them. One of them said this, in relations of politics, it.

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Speaker 17: Is not about you, President Trump. You are our president.

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Speaker 17: Please start acting like it. Show some class, show some

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Speaker 17: real leadership, show that you actually care about the people

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Speaker 17: other than yourself. I voted for you, but your behavior

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Speaker 17: on this issue has been an national embarrassingment.

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Speaker 15: No, that was pretty direct, said another of these survivors.

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Speaker 12: Now I am traumatize. I am not stupid.

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Speaker 17: Choose the children, Protect the children, all children.

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Speaker 15: They also released a video montage of many of the survivors,

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Speaker 15: whom they indicate could be as many as one thousand,

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Speaker 15: one thousand young girls abused by Epstein and co. He

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Speaker 15: is part of that video.

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Speaker 12: I was fourteen years old, I was sixteen years old.

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Speaker 12: I was sixteen, seventeen, fourteen years old. This is me,

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Speaker 12: this was me, this is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 15: Also among the victims was the brother of Virginia's Euphrey,

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Speaker 15: who was recruited by Juline Maxwell when she spotted this

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Speaker 15: young girl at Trump's more Laga. Years later, Maxwell, whom

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Speaker 15: Trump now refuses to rule out a pardon for Julaine,

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Speaker 15: Maxwell pursued Virginia Deuprey to Australia, where she tried to

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Speaker 15: start up a new life away from it all. Maxwell

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Speaker 15: threatened her. Virginia Deufrey wound up taking her own life

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Speaker 15: on April the twenty.

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Speaker 9: Fifth of this year, says her her brother. In thinking

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Speaker 9: back on all of this now, she.

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Speaker 4: Became a beacon of hope, a warrior fighting not just

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Speaker 4: for herself but for every survivor who suffered in silence.

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Speaker 15: He could barely speak at times through the tears. This

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Speaker 15: news conference was carried live by the US networks, with

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Speaker 15: the exception of one. Fox News did not carry this.

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Speaker 15: Three politicians also spoke. They were the two House members

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Speaker 15: who pushed for the release of the files, Thomas Massey, Republican,

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Speaker 15: wrote Conad Democrat, and also matri Taylor Green, who has,

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Speaker 15: as we've been hearing, split with Trump on this issue,

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Speaker 15: and who said when she woke up and it was cold,

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Speaker 15: she thought hell had frozen over today?

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Speaker 9: Well has it?

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Speaker 15: Trump could unilaterally release these Epstein files at any point

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Speaker 15: without the need for any congressional vote. Now he's called

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Speaker 15: on the Justice Department to look for only Democrats who

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Speaker 15: were involved with Epstein. Mid speculation that even if the

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Speaker 15: Congress votes for the files to come out, Trump then

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Speaker 15: could argue that they can't be made public while an

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Speaker 15: investation is underway.

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Speaker 9: Thomas Massey says.

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Speaker 16: Don't knock it up in the Senate.

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Speaker 12: Don't get too cute.

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Speaker 9: We're all paying attention meantime.

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Speaker 15: How's this for lack of decency? Texas Republican Troy Neil

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Speaker 15: said he would be a hard no one releasing the files,

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Speaker 15: with Trump suggesting maybe he's open to it. Congressman Neils

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Speaker 15: did a one ad and says he will vote.

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Speaker 9: For it now. What a hero. Speaking of which, there

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Speaker 9: are lots.

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Speaker 15: Of names and sickening emails released in the files that

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Speaker 15: have already come out. One is Larry Summers, who was

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Speaker 15: Treasury Secretary under Clinton and Harvard's former president. He now

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Speaker 15: says he's stepping back from public commitments, and while he

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Speaker 15: says he has quitte deeply ashamed of his actions and

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Speaker 15: recognizes the pain they have caused, he will still remain.

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Speaker 9: As a paid Harvard professor.

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Speaker 15: He kept writing to Epstein after his first pedophilia conviction,

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Speaker 15: and in one email he wrote to Epstein, I'm trying

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Speaker 15: to figure why American elite think if you murder your

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Speaker 15: baby by beating an abandonment, it must be irrelevant to

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Speaker 15: your admission to Harvard. But hit on a few women

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Speaker 15: ten years ago, and you can't work at a network

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Speaker 15: or think tank.

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Speaker 9: So Professor Sleeves.

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Speaker 2: Bag see Friday, Richard Arnold states, a couple of other

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Speaker 2: important things to tell you about Stateside in the moment

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Speaker 2: nine to two, the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News talks the

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Speaker 1: be a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: US Judge twenty four page opinion yesterday, William Fitzpatrick's name.

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Speaker 2: It's gone badly wrong for the show Trump campaign. In

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Speaker 2: terms of comy, it was always going to It was

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Speaker 2: a sketchy old thing, but it didn't go well yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of waters still to go under the bridge.

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Speaker 2: But follow that with interest. Switzerland also as part of

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Speaker 2: the deal two hundred billion dollar investment, they cut their

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Speaker 2: terror from thirty nine percent down to fifteen. But they're

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Speaker 2: also dispatching the heads of Rolex in Richmont. Richmond of Cartier,

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Speaker 2: among other things, to the States this month to bring

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Speaker 2: gifts to donald They're going to bring them a gold

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Speaker 2: rolex and a specifically engraved gold bar. I mean, how

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Speaker 2: pathetic five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: While the ins and the outs. It's the biz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Angsty time. It's Christmas, so we get all miserable. Accenture

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Speaker 2: have got the feedback this morning, Holiday and shopper outlook

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Speaker 2: the Accenture Holiday and Shopper Outlook seventy five percent. This

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Speaker 2: is locally. Three quarters of us are telling the higher

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Speaker 2: cost of living will affect our gift giving compared with

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Speaker 2: the year ago. The most edgy are the under forty fives.

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Speaker 2: Two thirds of us have had enough of the advertising

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Speaker 2: we fuel bombarded already. Half of us over half of us,

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Speaker 2: in fact, are already stressed out about the gift giving process.

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Speaker 2: We don't like options. We do not like options. Forty

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Speaker 2: four percent of us are feeling overwhelmed by too many options.

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Speaker 2: That's thanks to online shopping. You go on that internet

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Speaker 2: thing and it's just full of stuff. A third of us,

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Speaker 2: so if we had some items in an online cart,

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Speaker 2: it becomes too overwhelming, so we walk away from the cart,

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Speaker 2: which globally that happens eighty four percent of the time,

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Speaker 2: So thirty percent of us we're quite good. So once

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Speaker 2: we get to the cart, we're into it. Apparently eighty

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Speaker 2: four percent internationally go, I'll abandon the cart anyway. Semi

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Speaker 2: good news. Bricks and Mortar, forty six percent say we're

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Speaker 2: going to shop in person. That's a good story. I

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Speaker 2: think I've been proven right on the bricks and Water.

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Speaker 2: Years and years ago, I said, watch bricks and Water,

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Speaker 2: it's not going anywhere. Everyone said, oh, no, one all

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Speaker 2: years bricks and water anymore. But you read the warehouse results.

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Speaker 2: You read Brisco's results, and yes, their online stuff is increasing,

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Speaker 2: but not much. You know the warehouse. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: the number I read the other day, but it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, eight percent of people buy online.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there online things.

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Speaker 2: Well, what about Briscos never bought anything exactly. You're at

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Speaker 2: bricks and mortar. Nine percent say we're mainly going to

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Speaker 2: use chatch ebt to select gifts because we can't even

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Speaker 2: make up our mind anymore because we're too damn angsty

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Speaker 2: news is next for you?

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Speaker 1: Credible compelling, the breakfast show You Can't Bess It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 2: News Togsdad B seven Past seven Big Picture of Stuff

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Speaker 2: from Business New Zealand for you this morning. They're report

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Speaker 2: into the future of n Z. They're looking at key

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Speaker 2: issues that face us between now and twenty fifty lack

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Speaker 2: of workers called of a million of them, cost of

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Speaker 2: health and pensions, twenty five percent, chance we've got zero

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Speaker 2: population growth. Catherine Beard's the Business New Zealand Advocacy director

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Speaker 2: and us well there's Catherine Morning, Good morning. Do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: We're up for this is a country.

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Speaker 18: Look, the only way we're going to meet these challenges

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Speaker 18: really is to have a bit of a collective vision

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Speaker 18: about what good looks like in the future. And there's

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Speaker 18: definitely a concern from the business community that we are

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Speaker 18: sort of stuck in a cycle of short term thinking.

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Speaker 12: You know, we have three.

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Speaker 18: Year electoral election cycles, we have changes of government, we

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Speaker 18: have policy u tunes and flip flops, and we're not

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Speaker 18: really planning for the future. We're sort of stumbling towards it.

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Speaker 18: In kind of a blindfolded fashion. So this report's really

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Speaker 18: designed to get everybody to think outside the box. How

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Speaker 18: big do we want to be as a country or

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Speaker 18: do we want to sort of shrink into increasingly unviable future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish you well with a quarter of a

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Speaker 2: million workers and that's directly tied in with zero population growth.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon we're still a magnet for people who

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Speaker 2: want to come here or not?

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Speaker 18: Look, I think we can be, but again that has

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Speaker 18: to be part of the plan and the thinking why

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Speaker 18: would talent want to come here? And in fact way

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Speaker 18: even would our children want to stay here. So we

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Speaker 18: have to provide high paying jobs, we have to have

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Speaker 18: affordable housing and you know, to have.

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Speaker 19: To future here.

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Speaker 18: And we've got some fantastic attributes, but we really have

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Speaker 18: to be competitive with Australia frankly.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, and we're not. And this is not new do

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Speaker 2: you guys? Not just a business New Zealand, but in

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Speaker 2: general get sick of producing reports that say the right thing,

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Speaker 2: but nobody does anything about them.

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Speaker 18: Look, I think part of our hope with this report,

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Speaker 18: and we've put it out very widely amongst all the

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Speaker 18: industry groups, is that everybody starts singing the same song

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Speaker 18: and we actually put pressure on the politicians to depoliticize

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Speaker 18: the things. Sure they're going to have differences of opinion,

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Speaker 18: but you know, when you're campaigning in opposition on the

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Speaker 18: fact that you're going to reverse everything that's currently been

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Speaker 18: implemented from a business perspective, that's really hopeless.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it, CARSA. All I can do is wish you

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Speaker 2: well With Katherine Catherine Bier, who's the Business New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Advocacy director. I think Luxem, to be fair to him,

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Speaker 2: has reached out on the infrastructure side of the equation

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Speaker 2: and tried to make it a bit apolitical, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know that Labour's too open to that sort of

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Speaker 2: thinking at the moment. Anyway, Mark and Jenny after eight

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Speaker 2: on that perhaps no minutes past seven. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 2: if you want to reason as to why we might

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Speaker 2: not be traveling that, well, how about the Q three

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Speaker 2: data from the Drug Detection Agency. So we got the

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Speaker 2: cannabis that's now present in seventy one percent of positive

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Speaker 2: tests up eight percent. Why wouldn't it be twenty three

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Speaker 2: percent test are positive for amphetamine type substances? Significant increase

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Speaker 2: on the old cocaine, good stuff. Glenn Dobson's the Drug

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Speaker 2: Detection Agency CEO. Good morning, Yeah, goodbody, Mike. Just for

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Speaker 2: clarification sake, this is workplace testing, right, yeah, correct.

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Speaker 20: The most of the testing we do are in workplaces.

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Speaker 2: Right. So if I'm just trying to find out what

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Speaker 2: sort of picture we're painting for New Zealand, if I

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Speaker 2: round up one hundred random workplaces, are there drugs in

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Speaker 2: all of them?

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Speaker 20: Look a good question. It's a decent snapshot of I

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Speaker 20: guess New Zealand workplaces. You know, the positivity rate in

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Speaker 20: this last quarter is just under four percent. So in

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Speaker 20: in another way of looking at it, go to workplace.

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Speaker 20: You've got a hundred work on average, four of them

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Speaker 20: are potentially impaired by drugs.

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Speaker 2: But if I went to a forestry business as opposed

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Speaker 2: to an accounting business, as opposed to a retail shop,

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Speaker 2: surely I'd find vast differences.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: Possibly. Traditionally drug testing has been and what we describe

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Speaker 20: as safety sensitive industries or blue collar industries. But that's

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Speaker 20: been changing a lot over the last several years, and

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Speaker 20: a lot of white collar businesses are drug testing now

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Speaker 20: looking at brand protection, risk mitigation that type of thing

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Speaker 20: as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the variance in drugs does it tell you

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Speaker 2: anything of there's a lot of versus a lot of

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Speaker 2: meth versus a lot of coke. What's that tell us?

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Speaker 20: I guess it's a really good oversight of what's happening

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Speaker 20: out there in society.

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Speaker 21: Ration of the supply of drugs.

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Speaker 7: Cannabis is always high.

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Speaker 20: Ineration to our positivity rates, but certainly in the latest

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Speaker 20: quart of methamphetamine is down slightly. Opioids is pretty steady,

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Speaker 20: that's no surprise. And opoids has been steady for a while,

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Speaker 20: which is a real concern. And are we still follow

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Speaker 20: the trends of global use?

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Speaker 2: Do you find I mean lot you work in it.

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Speaker 2: Do you find this depressing? I just find this just

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Speaker 2: unbelievably depressing.

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Speaker 20: Depressing, No fascinating. It's dynamic, it's changing. We're affected by

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Speaker 20: a number of factors, both local and global economies and

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Speaker 20: supply Chaine and so forth. I look at it as

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Speaker 20: I want my friends, my families, my colleagues to be safe.

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Speaker 20: And that's we want to do here, is we want

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Speaker 20: to eradicate the risk of drugs in the workplace. Of

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Speaker 20: pill can be safe?

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Speaker 2: Is it about safety as much as it is about

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Speaker 2: I don't know morals or behavior or the dichotomy that

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Speaker 2: faces New Zealand. At the moment. All I see is

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Speaker 2: a country that's got problems. And then I talk to

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Speaker 2: a person like you and we're all on drugs, and

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Speaker 2: I think, well, there's join a couple of dots.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I guess the moral ethical question is saying that

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Speaker 20: that political parties and society will grapple with for years

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Speaker 20: to come. From our perspective, it is purely about safety.

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Speaker 20: We were at a jugment calling too y people take drugs.

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Speaker 20: The civil situation is we don't want the pilot, we

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Speaker 20: don't want the surgeon. We don't want the person driving

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Speaker 20: the truck in our roads to be affected by drugs.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, Glenn appreciate at Glenn Dobson Drug Detection Agency,

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes past seven.

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Speaker 9: Pask getting Mike.

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Speaker 2: We need to hear more from people like the Sandford

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Speaker 2: CEO to realize how positive we can be. Too many

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Speaker 2: academics and union officials get airtime. Tony couldn't agree with

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Speaker 2: you more on the subject of the economy, broadly speaking,

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Speaker 2: median rent down again. So if you Landlord, bad news

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Speaker 2: if you're a rent of good news, it's down to

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Speaker 2: sixteen medium price around the country. Lowescense May of twenty

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Speaker 2: three decreased another ten bucks in September, down four percent

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Speaker 2: on the same time last year. Some big movements you

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Speaker 2: don't want to look at month and a month, as

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Speaker 2: I keep saying, I mean Wellington for examples, down over

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Speaker 2: seven and a half percent, Otigo four and a half percent,

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Speaker 2: eight and a half percent down in Gisbon, left hand

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Speaker 2: side of the country. As you look at a map,

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Speaker 2: something's going on because they're up Southland, up, Nelson, up,

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Speaker 2: Taranaki up. But the rest of the country pretty much

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Speaker 2: everywhere has gone backwards.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past the Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: Howard By News talks at b.

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Speaker 2: You're across at the Kashogi thing came up in questions

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Speaker 2: all moved on. Seventeen past seven, So what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Invocational training back here of those who enter less than

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Speaker 2: half finished. Greg Durkin as the bc ITO director and

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Speaker 2: as with us, Greg Morning Yeah one in Mike k

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Speaker 2: are you very well? Thank you. Penny Simmons says, it's

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Speaker 2: not blanket across all industries. Is that true?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 21: I think the minister's numbers. She's talking about apprenticeships across

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Speaker 21: a wide range of industries. Bcico we look after fifteen

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Speaker 21: construction industries and our completion rates, depending on the industries

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Speaker 21: range from around about seventy five percent down to about

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Speaker 21: sixty five percent.

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Speaker 2: Would you be happy with those numbers?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I think that lock Cay can always be better,

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Speaker 21: but I think that like all jobs, people who start

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Speaker 21: don't always finish. You know, constructions not for everyone, but

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Speaker 21: there's a lot of people who are entering our apprenticeships

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Speaker 21: and who are completing. You know, we noticed around about COVID,

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Speaker 21: and it wasn't because of COVID that the numbers of

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Speaker 21: withdrawals were increasing. We did some research on that and yeah,

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Speaker 21: there was some We certainly found out a bunch of

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Speaker 21: things and that there was no single reason, no singular reason,

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Speaker 21: but at the cost of living and changes in the

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Speaker 21: economy certainly had a big part to play.

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Speaker 2: And when you say changes in the economy, there are

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Speaker 2: easier jobs elsewhere, do they then leave? Is that part

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Speaker 2: of the equation or are during COVID if they were

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Speaker 2: going to pay you us at home and do nothing.

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Speaker 21: You kind of like that, Well, I think, yeah, if

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Speaker 21: certainly the cost of living has changed. You know, we

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Speaker 21: had a boom of building up until twenty three, twenty

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Speaker 21: twenty very and then a significant drop since then. So

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Speaker 21: that's had an impact on the affordability of people to

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Speaker 21: be able to stay in their apprenticeship when they could

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Speaker 21: go down the road and maybe get a couple of

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Speaker 21: dollars more in another role.

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Speaker 2: See, this is the thing that concerns me because in

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Speaker 2: a tight economy, there are no jobs of people going on. Jeez,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll be a builder or a plumber or whatever.

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Speaker 2: If you don't want to do it but you're forced

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Speaker 2: to do it, is that where the problem is, and

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Speaker 2: we're just sort of butting heads on people who just

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Speaker 2: actually don't want to be there in the first place.

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Speaker 21: Oh No, I don't think that that's the case. I

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Speaker 21: think people, you know, the people who enter the contruction

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Speaker 21: industry in the main are generally really interested in a

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Speaker 21: future in construction, and that future is bright. The challenge

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Speaker 21: that we've got, Mike, is that the construction industry is

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Speaker 21: quiet at the moment, and employers are really struggling and

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Speaker 21: they're doing a really good job to try and keep

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Speaker 21: the apprentices that I've got.

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Speaker 10: But we're going to you.

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Speaker 21: Know, that's not going to last for ever. We're going

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Speaker 21: to see we will see a change in the construction

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Speaker 21: industry with increased command. And if we if we're not

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Speaker 21: training now, then we're just going to end up with

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Speaker 21: you and I having another conversation about skills.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like you, Greg, and You're welcome on the

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Speaker 2: program anytime, but I'm sick of having conversations about supply

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Speaker 2: chain issues and pipeline issues in this country, not having

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Speaker 2: attack together issues. But I thank you for your time

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Speaker 2: for now, Greg Durkin, b c ITO Director. Some problems

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Speaker 2: of dollars to middle class tes la buyers. Now was

873
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: it one of the highest uptakes in the world. I

874
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: don't know, but it certainly helped sales. Discounted stuff, stuff

875
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: paid for by other people tends to help sales. I

876
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: reckon off the government offered to renau your bathroom. I

877
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: reckon bathroom renaults would go through the roof. As for

878
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: a dumping ground, well, how about less snobbery and more

879
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: acceptance that New Zealanders are actually allowed to buy the

880
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: sort of car they want. A lot of people don't

881
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: have fifty to eighty thousand dollars or even if you

882
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: go Chinese, thirty thousand dollars for an EV, or even

883
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: if they do, a lot of people simply don't want

884
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: an EV. Some people want a hybrid, and that's fine,

885
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: But if you direct people through taxes towards outcomes, at

886
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: your peril. The climate obsession has ended up basically up

887
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: ending markets and driven a level of complexity through charges

888
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: that the government literally doesn't know how to get out of.

889
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: They've got importers bringing in cars they can't sell. What's

890
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: the point of that? People will buy what people will buy.

891
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: This isn't China, where you're told what to do when

892
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: you're cajoled allegedly through tax and fees. Look what happens.

893
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: The biggest irony is supplies and issues. See the importers

894
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: can't get the stock they need. Why not, Well, one

895
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: we drive on the opposite side of the road to

896
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: a lot of countries, but two manufacturers, as you well,

897
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: we're are pulling back on the production of these cars.

898
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: The government scheme wants you to import these cars, but

899
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: they're pulling back on production. Why are they doing that,

900
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: you ask, because they can't sell them? Obsession, interference, meddling

901
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: and stupidity. It will trip you up every time ask.

902
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Talk to Mark and Ginny about this. Labor Party tried

903
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: really hard in the House yesterday to get Chris Bishop

904
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: MP for Hut South. It's got to do with a bridge.

905
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: Kayeing or Aura have a budget and part of their

906
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: budget is for in this particular case, infrastructure for water.

907
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: Counsel wrote to both Bishop and the Finance minister and said, look,

908
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: can we use the money elsewhere? This bridge is going

909
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: to be really cool. We want the bridge. Can we

910
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: use the money instead of the water? Can we put

911
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: it into a bridge? Bishop talked to Nikola, and Nikola

912
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: talked to Boshop and they said sure, why not have it?

913
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 10: Now?

914
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: Labour think that's a scandal because of course Bishop's in

915
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: the area, he's the Hut South MP. Suddenly he's sprooking.

916
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: He's advocating money that was allegedly for quote unquote housing

917
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: for bridges. Now is it a scandal? I don't see

918
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: it as a scandal myself, because two ministers made the decision. Therefore,

919
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: you know he can, and he followed the rules. There's

920
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: no question he broke the rules. He followed the rules

921
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: the whole way through. But this is the sort of

922
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: myopic crap that the country dabbles in, literally on a

923
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: daily basis. And then you end up interviewing Catherine bed

924
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: with a multi decade sort of project, hoping that we

925
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: can get ourselves our act together over the longer period

926
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: of time. And then you look at the bridge thing

927
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: in the heart and you wonder why we haven't.

928
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The my Hosking

929
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life your Way News togs

930
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: Head be.

931
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Speaker 2: Funny story about Cop thirty one. Australia was supposed to

932
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: host it and it's gone all pear shaped for Eld

933
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: and Easy, and I don't think he knows what to

934
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 2: do about it. And the backstory is interesting and where

935
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: it will end up is even more interesting. But I'll

936
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Speaker 2: get Steep to do some of that for you in

937
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: about an hour's time meantime. Back here at twenty three

938
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: to eight, the ghost of labor past is back to

939
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: haunt us with more spending ways. Almost thirty eight million

940
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: bucks was handed out on a flexy wage program for

941
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: the self employed. So this was a COVID idea trouble

942
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: as large numbers of the businesses have failed and the

943
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: recipients are back on the doll Anyway, Phill o'riley's former

944
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: Welfare Expert Advisory Group member and is back. Well there's

945
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: film morning to you morning, mikel. Although it does include

946
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: the national government. I'll come to that in just a

947
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: couple of moments. So the whole thing was boosted in

948
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Was this a waste of money? Why

949
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: if you want to set up in business and we

950
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: handing out taxpayers money.

951
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 22: The idea of people being supported to set up a

952
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 22: business is issue a good idea in principle, Mike, You

953
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 22: look at the problem is that the money wasn't monitored

954
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 22: properly and far too much of it was spent. That's

955
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 22: the problem, not the idea that the idea is this.

956
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 22: You're if you're say a middle aged man or a

957
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 22: young woman living in rural New Zealand, what's your chances

958
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 22: of actually getting a job? You know, and I've always argued, look,

959
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 22: if you can make your own labor market by starting

960
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 22: a business, that's a great idea, and of course many

961
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 22: even can start these days with the Internet and so on.

962
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 22: The successful businesses can be so anyway. So I've always

963
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 22: argued that there is a role for mist to think

964
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 22: about that, because otherwise we'll just pay money to people

965
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 22: on the doll for years and years and years maybe forever,

966
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 22: and get nowhere. So the idea is the right idea.

967
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 22: The problem is that they spent far too much, and

968
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 22: it was far too lax, and there wasn't enough monitoring

969
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 22: and measurement of outcomes. Bear in mind also, but look,

970
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 22: when you start a business that often fails. That's the

971
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 22: nature of these things, so you are going to get

972
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 22: high failure rates. But I think the idea is right.

973
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 22: The execution obviously woefully bad.

974
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: So where are we at now? Because this was in

975
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: twenty one. By the time we get to twenty four

976
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: to twenty five, they've curtailed it to a degree. But

977
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: as far as are still going, isn't it.

978
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 22: Yeah, there will be some of these projects going, But

979
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 22: as I say that, the challenge will be to get

980
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 22: government bureaucrats to actually measure and monitor outcomes that lead

981
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 22: to good places. Bearer in mind, they don't give this

982
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 22: very well for people getting jobs. Either might fee exactly

983
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 22: what they measure is people moving off the dog getting

984
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 22: a job. They don't measure, for example, how long they

985
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 22: stay on the job. They don't measure whether it's not

986
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 22: the best my knowledge. They don't measure whether or not

987
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 22: the job actually led to better prospects for this person.

988
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 22: So they don't measure quality outcomes. They measure an outcome.

989
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 22: It says, I move off the doll into work. So

990
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 22: there's a lot that's wrong with the way and whish

991
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 22: work and income in the Ministry of Social Development do

992
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 22: these things. But I think that the idea of these

993
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 22: programs is the right idea. But we just need to

994
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 22: get much much better and much tighter about the way

995
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 22: we spend the money in the way we want.

996
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: Are they capable of doing it? Even if you got

997
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: to know, kick them up the bomb or whip them

998
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: into shape? Are they capable of monitoring in a way

999
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: that would make this work?

1000
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 22: Kind of? I think there's never going to be perfect

1001
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 22: these things. Of course, there is always going to be

1002
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 22: because what's the successful business. You know, how do you

1003
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 22: measure a monitor that and how do you define it?

1004
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 22: But you know it's not impossible. Bear in mind, all

1005
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 22: big bureaucracies, including private sector bureaucracies, struggle to monitor and

1006
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 22: measure things properly because it's a big industrial machine. They've

1007
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 22: got to measure thousands of these things and monitor thousands

1008
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 22: of these things all at once, so it's never going

1009
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 22: to be perfect. But over got to face in the

1010
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 22: public service, I think they can so honestly, as long

1011
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 22: as they get the program right from the get go.

1012
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 22: What's the program trying to target, what's to trying to do,

1013
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 22: do some pilots and then find out what works and

1014
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 22: then expand it. That's probably that probably hasn't happened here.

1015
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: What is the criteria, because is it just like, hey, look,

1016
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: I want to sell sizag drives in a cappuccino and

1017
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: they go, that's hospo and there's too much hospo or

1018
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: they don't care. As long as they think you can

1019
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: sell Suze roles in cappuccino, they'll back you.

1020
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 22: I suspect it's still has toy. I'm not exactly sure

1021
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 22: of the detail that might but I'm pretty sure it'll

1022
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 22: be the latter, which is to say, if you can

1023
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 22: come up with a sensible sort of business plan, you

1024
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 22: get some mentoring maybe around that, then a where you

1025
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 22: go better. Mind of course, in the private sector you're

1026
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 22: allowed to start a business sits in the crowded marketplace too,

1027
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 22: of course, so nothing wrong with that particularly. The challenge

1028
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 22: is more, that you know, is the misty putting in

1029
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 22: place the right training mechanisms that these people. Are they

1030
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 22: putting in place any sort of mentorship or guidance for

1031
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 22: them or are they just sort of giving them a

1032
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 22: bit of money and hoping it succeeds, Because as you know,

1033
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 22: you know, if you want to start a small business

1034
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 22: then you don't have a bit of guidance and you

1035
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 22: don't have a bit of support, then you're going to fail.

1036
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 22: So the question I'd be asking you, misd is not

1037
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Speaker 22: whether these programs are a good idea. They are, they

1038
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 22: probably need to be more limited, but what are you

1039
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 22: doing about making sure you learn from them so that

1040
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 22: more people can succeed? And what the Taxpayers Union is

1041
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 22: clearly pointed out is that's not happening, and that's the

1042
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 22: bad thing.

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Speaker 2: Nice stuff film appreciated as always. Pillow Riley, former Welfare

1044
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Speaker 2: Expert Advisory Group member. The reason I ask about hospital

1045
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: is we get in in the area we live. You

1046
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: get a sort of a local community update and a

1047
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: big list of the stuff that's happening in the area

1048
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: in terms of businesses that are on the verge of

1049
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: opening any day now. And I got the list the

1050
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: other day, and what was bullish about it or what

1051
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: was good about it is there's a lot of businesses

1052
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: that are opening. I'm thinking, right, things are turning, things

1053
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: are right. People are wanting to take a risk. This

1054
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: is fantastic. But then I go through the risk at

1055
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: a list and I can't remember how many people there were.

1056
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Speaker 2: There's maybe twenty new businesses that were going to open

1057
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: up over the next six months, about eighteen of them

1058
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Speaker 2: a hospit Now I'm so I'm taughn. So on one hand,

1059
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: if you want to open something that's hosspo, good on,

1060
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: you go for gold. Couldn't care less. But then I'm thinking, well,

1061
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Speaker 2: if there's eighteen of twenty businesses that are opening that

1062
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Speaker 2: a hospo, how many of those are going to last?

1063
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: And the answer is not many. And then your next

1064
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: thing I'm going to do is be interviewing old miss

1065
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Speaker 2: Bidoir from the restaurant Association, who's telling me how tough

1066
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: hospow is and how difficult is. I'm not surprised because

1067
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Speaker 2: every man and his dog's opening up a cafe and

1068
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Speaker 2: then they don't last because we're over cafed in this country.

1069
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: We're over hospowed in this country, and there's not a

1070
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: mechanism in play whereby they go, Look, have you thought

1071
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: about the possibility that if you're opening up yet another

1072
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: bubble tea operation, it isn't going to last very long?

1073
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: Maybe you want to look at something else, or are

1074
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: you a country that says if you want to give it

1075
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Speaker 2: a go, give it a go.

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1077
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1078
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Speaker 2: So I come back to the thing I've got the

1079
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Speaker 2: number I referenced to it earlier on seven percent. This

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Speaker 2: is the warehouse online. So seven percent of their sales

1081
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Speaker 2: are online. So if you read it right, online sales

1082
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Speaker 2: and increase eight point two percent, you go, oh, eight

1083
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Speaker 2: point two percent, that's quite good. But only seven percent

1084
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: of their sales are online, so that means ninety three

1085
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: percent that aren't. Why am I telling you this? Well,

1086
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: I referenced it earlier and I've become fascinating, fascinated in

1087
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: retail and what's going on in this country at the moment.

1088
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: It's a very good piece in the spinoff the other day,

1089
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: which is an odd site, but nevertheless, every now and

1090
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: again they come up with something relatively interesting. They came

1091
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: up with a very interesting article about the future of

1092
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: department stores. I'm a big fan of department stores, big

1093
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: fan of bricks and mortar, and my mate Eddie announced

1094
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: the other day that he's opening a department store in Auckland,

1095
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: a place called Faradays. He's already got a place called Faradays,

1096
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: but he's having a bigger place called Faradays, and he's

1097
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: getting thirty million dollars from somewhere and going into a

1098
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: spectacular building in Queen Street. Now, if I didn't know

1099
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: Eddian love Eddie, I'd look at Eddie and go, are

1100
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: you insane? Of course, because you know the downtown Auckland story.

1101
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: But the guy's an entrepreneur and he's bullsh and I

1102
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: think he's the sort of bloke he will make a

1103
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: success of it, So good on him. So how come

1104
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: he can make a success of it, assuming he does.

1105
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: At the same time, and I'm reading about the warehouse.

1106
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: The's seemingly never ending turnaround at the warehouse that doesn't

1107
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 2: seem to be turning around. They've got a new bloke

1108
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: running the thing called Mark and so they've been saving money,

1109
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: ahead office and doing all that sort of thing. But

1110
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: you look at the warehouse story and you think, well,

1111
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: bricks and mortar. Basically, they're a department store, aren't they.

1112
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: They're a big place where you go in and buy

1113
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of stuff. How come they don't work?

1114
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: But then I talk to Rod who runs Briscoes, and

1115
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: Rod makes it work. So he's a big shop with

1116
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: lots of things, and he makes it work, And I'm

1117
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: thinking it is the model. At the end of the day,

1118
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: it's not the thing. And what we do is we

1119
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: focus on the thing. We say retail is in trouble.

1120
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: We say hospo is in trouble, and that's all averages.

1121
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: And we don't want to look at averages. We want

1122
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: to look at specifics. Because Briscoes isn't in trouble. Brisco's

1123
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: is laughing, the warehouse isn't. They're in trouble and have

1124
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 2: been for ages. So what's the difference, what's right, what's wrong,

1125
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: Glynn said earlier on their warehouse is online offering, Isn't

1126
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: that flash. I wouldn't have a club, never gone to

1127
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: the warehouse, and I don't know anything about it, but

1128
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: apart from the fact that my friend Joan is the chairman,

1129
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: and I love Joan and I wish her the best.

1130
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 23: But having you soon tell Joan to just put things

1131
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 23: that are actually at the warehouse on the website and.

1132
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: Not to then they're one of those people out.

1133
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 23: There and we're buying stuff from about three or four

1134
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 23: different places.

1135
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: My wife Actually, I'm glad you raised that. My wife

1136
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: goes on about that lot. So you think you buy

1137
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: something but it's not there, and you give them the

1138
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: money and then they tell you it's not there, but

1139
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: it will be soon and then in their lives and

1140
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: if I want to get it from no Leaning, I'll

1141
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: go to nole eaning. You know, yeah, I know what

1142
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: you're saying. Anyway, It's just what I'm saying is if

1143
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: you want to do it, and do it well, here's

1144
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: my life advice, and I've got too many examples, but

1145
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what part of life you're in. If

1146
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: you're determined and dedicated and good at what you do,

1147
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: you will succeed. Now if you can go out there

1148
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: and find examples of people who aren't succeeding and go, oh,

1149
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: retail's no good at the moment.

1150
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 9: Wrong.

1151
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: If you're good at what you do, retail's fine at

1152
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: the moment. Has been all along. It's restaurants. I can

1153
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: name you a couple of restaurants that we like and

1154
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: we go to they're booming. You cannot get a table

1155
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: at these places. They've got cues out the door on

1156
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: a Saturday night from people who are desperate to get

1157
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: in but haven't booked and forgot. They're booming. Oh wait

1158
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: a minute, but hospital isn't. No, it's not not. If

1159
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: you do the job right, then quickly. I'm almost out

1160
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: of time on this, but I'm coming to Joseph Parker.

1161
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: Wardley gets the title. You sick, gave it up, relinquish

1162
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: the title. Do you know what I'm talking about? So

1163
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Parker fights Wardley and you sick, which was cab off

1164
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: the rank unless he relinquished his title, was going to

1165
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: fight the winner of that fight. So Wardley wins. Disaster

1166
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: number one Disaster number two. The news over the weekend

1167
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: about the cocaine alleged and then you sick yesterday. Guys,

1168
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: don't worry, don't what the wbo o belt anymore. So

1169
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: this bloke Wardly that no one's ever heard of is

1170
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: suddenly a title holder next cab Off the rank undisputed

1171
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: champion of the world, which he won't be, of course,

1172
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: because you're not that good. Meantime, Joseph's either here or

1173
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: in Sarmaia waiting on a cocaine result. An interesting how

1174
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: life goesh turn away from at.

1175
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Vita Retirement Communities News togs

1176
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: had been.

1177
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: The warehouse issue was in the model c kmart. It's

1178
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: the offer. They lost touch with their customer. It's not

1179
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: a batter point seven away from h We've got a

1180
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: new headgear aimed at boosting junior rugby safety. This is

1181
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: the University of Canterbury. They've developed a soft shell design

1182
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 2: that offers better impact absorption. Prototypes undergone extra of testing,

1183
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: plans to expand into the US secure licensing with will Rugby.

1184
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: Nick Drapers, the professor at the University of cantery Faculty

1185
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: of Health and as well as Next Morning, Good Morning.

1186
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: So there's been an exciting journey for you.

1187
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 19: Yeah, it has has been a ten year journey, but

1188
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 19: we're getting really close to having a finished product now

1189
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 19: with a view to.

1190
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: It being commercially successful. Or is this an esoteric project

1191
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: that sort of came to life and took on a

1192
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: journey of its own.

1193
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 19: Sure, so, I guess this started sort of ten years

1194
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 19: ago and a conversation. I had an idea around a

1195
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 19: material that might help to sort of reduce impacts because

1196
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 19: I'm a parent of three boys that play rugby, and

1197
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 19: I looked at it and spoke to Keith Alexander, who's

1198
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 19: a professor of engineering at UC and he and I

1199
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 19: sort of had this back and forth conversation. Eventually decided

1200
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 19: we needed to measure the collisions in rugby first, and

1201
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 19: it kind of started from there and then that's been

1202
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 19: a you know, so the journey of testing materials and

1203
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 19: understanding collisions more clearly as we gone through the research,

1204
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 19: and we're now at a stage where we've got to

1205
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 19: finish product. The aim of this is to put it

1206
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 19: onto the market, but all of the money that we

1207
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 19: generate from sales will be reinvested into the research because

1208
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 19: our focus is on how we can make the game

1209
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 19: safer for young people.

1210
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: What are you up against product wise? What's out there?

1211
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 19: Well, there's a range of products. There's sort of standard

1212
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 19: headgear that you see nowadays, which was approved under sort

1213
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 19: of regulation twelve of the rules around sort of equipment.

1214
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 19: And then there's a new World Rugby launched in twenty nineteen,

1215
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 19: a new sort of law for trial which allows head

1216
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 19: gear to be developed as a medical device, and that's

1217
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 19: where we would fit into that category. And we're using

1218
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 19: in that stace, we're using materials that will absorb some

1219
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 19: of those impacts in the collisions.

1220
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: Is it a better product?

1221
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 19: We think we've tested it and it's as good as

1222
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 19: all better than any any product product on the market.

1223
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 19: What the research has been about, what's.

1224
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 2: The market say? I mean people want to buy the

1225
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 2: stuff if it's there. I mean do players go yep,

1226
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to protect myself. Where you've still got a

1227
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: hurdle there and convincing people, Well.

1228
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 19: That's a really interesting question. I think if you look

1229
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 19: at the professional game, you've see an increasing number of

1230
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 19: players that are wearing head gifts. So I think there's

1231
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 19: a concern and I think there's a demand there. But

1232
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 19: the narrative is quite confused at the moment because the

1233
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 19: sort of main thing that you hear is that heger,

1234
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 19: you won't stop a concussion, and I think we need

1235
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 19: to change that narrative to one of actually not thinking

1236
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 19: about stopping concussions, but reducing the impact load over through

1237
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 19: a game, across the season, and through a career for players,

1238
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 19: and that's where those impact reducing materials can be beneficial.

1239
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: Fantastic, Nick, I wish you were with the journey, Nick Draper,

1240
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: who's professor at the University of Canterbury Faculty of Health.

1241
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: I was watching you see a little bit in the

1242
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: NFL these days, they're very cleverly disguised and increasing number

1243
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: of players. Yes they wear helmets, but they wear helmets

1244
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: on top of helmets, so it's sort of visually borders

1245
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: on looking slightly odd by the time you get to

1246
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: that part. But it's a major issue in the NFL,

1247
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: of course, in these class actions left, right and center,

1248
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: so it's a big talking point. Yesterday Dallas, Dallas were

1249
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: at their very best. I say that loosely because this

1250
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: was Monday night football. Dallas were at the very best,

1251
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: but they were playing Las Vegas and Las Vegas. I reckon,

1252
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: I reckon I could beat Las Vegas, honestly, and I'm

1253
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: just meet by myself. That's how bad they are. And

1254
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: they were pretty bad, so Dallas looked perhaps a little

1255
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: bit better than they normally are. But nevertheless, as they say,

1256
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: a win is a win. And one of my heroes

1257
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: in the game's guy called Pete Carroll. He used to

1258
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: be the coach at Seattle and he's now in Las Vegas,

1259
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: and I'm looking, I'm Saint Pete. Honestly, do you need this?

1260
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: Have you've got a plan to turn this thing around

1261
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: or not? Politics? Wednesday? It is Wednesday. Therefore, Mark and

1262
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: Ginny are but moments away.

1263
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't. The mic hosking breakfast were

1264
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: the defender embraced the impossible news talks, they'd be.

1265
00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 9: I got a big fan screen so you can see.

1266
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: You never guess these people in a million years. This

1267
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: is weird ass. This is their twenty first album. It's cooled,

1268
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: all washed up. There's a picture of a laundry as

1269
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: opposed to being Maybe they're trying to be clever. I

1270
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: don't know anyway. A Rick Nielsen is still his absolute

1271
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: best on six strings allegedly see every song a reminder

1272
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: of how their past achievements were truly special, while at

1273
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: the same time letting everyone know they're still cranking out

1274
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: songs with all the mannic energy, gleeful, abandoned and pure

1275
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: pop songcraft they embrace from the stuff So silent Chip

1276
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: trifty and silent Chip trick to eleven tracks, thirty nine

1277
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: minutes and fifty six seconds, it is able to look

1278
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: past eight. Time for politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell's with Us

1279
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: Long with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to both of you.

1280
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 24: Good morning, Mike, morning Jenny, Good morning.

1281
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: Were you, Ginny? Where you actually let me a broad

1282
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 2: based open question. Where were you last night?

1283
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 12: Where was I last night? I was in parliament?

1284
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 25: Okay, were you at the function, the in New Zealand function?

1285
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 25: If you say so, I popped into that very quickly.

1286
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: You know, I'm getting the one, I'm getting the word,

1287
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm getting the gossip. Mark And now you were there,

1288
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: weren't you?

1289
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 24: Yes?

1290
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: I certainly was. Indeed, Jason was right.

1291
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 25: That was when the lights went out. That was quite exciting.

1292
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 25: That was more exciting.

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Speaker 12: Hold on, I thought that it was I thought that

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Speaker 12: it was.

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Speaker 25: The government trying to save money by cutting the power,

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Speaker 25: or maybe it could have been the last New Zealander

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Speaker 25: leaving the country too.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't It wasn't the keys in the Bolls type function?

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Speaker 10: Was it?

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Speaker 12: No? No, the lights were quite different to that.

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Speaker 21: I thought.

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Speaker 24: I thought you us had a scoop. We had some

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Speaker 24: sort of eagle comt at there.

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Speaker 2: Well, well it was just no. Well you've raised it,

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01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: you've thrown the spanner and the works there, Jenny. I

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Speaker 2: thought the power cut was mid afternoon because I was

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Speaker 2: I was watching question Time and somebody was reporting the

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Speaker 2: power cut and I thought, well, hold on, question Time

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Speaker 2: is going to go into the dark. I've never seen

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Speaker 2: anything like this in my life. And it didn't, so

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Speaker 2: that you must have a separate generator.

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think we do. I thought we might have

1313
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 25: had tortures. You could have played spotlight and question Time.

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Speaker 12: That would have been.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be called pretty function? As well?

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 24: I know that Lloyd Boo stopped me on the tiles

1317
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 24: on the way into Parliament and he was very concerned

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 24: that the pair had gone out, which I had no

1319
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 24: idea the pair had gone out, and he thought that

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Speaker 24: NIMA should be mobilized, and I said relax, Lloyd. It's

1321
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 24: just the powers.

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: Bloody, those bloody journalists. They're all the same, aren't they

1323
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: name the name, namely the biggest pain in the asses

1324
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: of journalists Mark that you deal with all the titles.

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 24: Oh god, I can't do that. No, no, no, jeeps,

1326
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 24: A good question.

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01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: You've got so many do you want to start? Alphabeticley?

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01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: What do you want to do? So here was it

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: wasn't see the boss was at the function, Jenny, That's

1330
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: what I was raising. It was at the function last night,

1331
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: and it seemed to me that everyone was at the function.

1332
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: Was this like one of the great functions of all time?

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01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 12: It was good.

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01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 25: We have a regular you know, functions that come through

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01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 25: and they're aways really good. So it's always a good

1336
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 25: opportunity to make people from different parts of business.

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01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 12: And yeah, it was good.

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01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 24: We do have lots of functions. We've got Saint John's

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01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 24: in here this morning for a breakfast. So I've just

1340
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 24: come from just to acknowledge the outstanding that they do

1341
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 24: in New Zealand. One's a big one, thy might. That's

1342
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 24: let's say, our national carrier. You know, you sort of

1343
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 24: get everyone that's involved in trade and hospitality, tourism, so

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01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 24: it's always a big one.

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01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: See I got invited to that, but obviously because I

1346
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere and don't leave the house, I never

1347
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: go to it. You don't and when you're what are

1348
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: the rules? So if I get if I get invited

1349
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: to something by in New Zealand and I live in

1350
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: Auckland but need to be in Wellington, do they pay

1351
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: for that or because they pay for you guys, wouldn't they?

1352
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Speaker 24: Well we're there, but no, I don't think they would.

1353
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 24: You could just send a cut sand down with a

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 24: cardboard cab or something like that there.

1355
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 12: Would Yeah, we could pop it up.

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01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so that as long as they got

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01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: the power sorted out. Now, Ginny, who comes up with

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01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: your heart Bridge scandal thing yesterday that you're asking nine

1359
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven thousand questions on who dreamed that

1360
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Speaker 2: one up?

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01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 12: Well, it was the the Post who ran it on

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Speaker 12: the front page yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So you steal all your ideas from the Post.

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 12: That was where the story broke. Yeah, so yeah, what

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01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 12: is what does.

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Speaker 2: Karen Karen go? Hey, guys, guys for question time. Have

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: you seen the front page of the Post. Let's ask

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Speaker 2: some questions on the bridge.

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 25: When you see someone who is taking money out of

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Speaker 25: one pot into another for a local election promise, it

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 25: doesn't It doesn't pass the sniftiest as far as as

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01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 25: far as.

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned, doesn't it Well?

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Speaker 25: You know, well, you know we have people in the

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Speaker 25: Heart Value who are living in cars on the Tony

1378
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 25: for front, and they could have done with that money

1379
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 25: for a water infrastructure to build more houses, so it

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01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 25: would have actually assisted people to the isn't.

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Speaker 2: The problem with the council. The council asked for the money,

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01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: they said, look, how about we spend it on a bridge.

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Speaker 7: No.

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01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 25: But the problem was that the government changed its priorities

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01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 25: and didn't prioritize cycling and walking, so that bridge was

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01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 25: no longer fund. Everyone loves the bridge, great bridge, no

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 25: complaints there, but because of the government's priorities changing on transport,

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01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 25: that bridge wasn't funded. And so instead of just coughing

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 25: up the money, they went and took it out of

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01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 25: housing money and said, oh, there you go, we'll have

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Speaker 25: it now. So everyone wants the bridge agreed on that,

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 25: but they've pinched it at a money that was meant

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Speaker 25: for building more houses.

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 24: Because it's text person money and unlike you guys who

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 24: just think you can just borrow and spend an thrid

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Speaker 24: every week.

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Speaker 12: We can't cut money.

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Speaker 24: As at Well, I don't know why you're raising that,

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01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 24: because there was far more people in emergency housing, kids

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01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 24: living in motels under you guys, there are under us.

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01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 25: You can come with me Mark and go check it,

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 25: Shunt and you can see that there's a six month

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 25: old baby also in situations like that, so we have

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01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 25: young families and.

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01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: Water wouldn't have solved that person on the patni Foreshows problem,

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01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: would it.

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 25: Well, there are more than one places around the valley

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 25: that would have had kimber Order having been built. And

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 25: when there's no money to build the water infrastructure, those

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01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 25: projects have been canceled like meaning, well.

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01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: We're actually building houses.

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01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 24: You guys, didn't you promised on a hundred things.

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 12: Well, we built far more.

1414
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 2: So I just don't tell FABS at this function because

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01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: if you two talk like this at this function I'd

1416
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: be off to the corner. Brief break more in a

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Speaker 2: Moment thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, car

1419
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: it by News Talks.

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01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: News Talks sixteen past eight. Marke Metroll, Jinny Anderson. Ginny,

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: we're in the cycle, are we politically with you guys

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01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: and the Green So the Greens are going to abandon

1423
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: these seven mining projects they don't like. I don't think

1424
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: they said it to bottom line for them. So do

1425
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: you rule that out? Can you rule that out right

1426
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: here right now?

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01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 25: Just before I do, do you comment on there? I

1428
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 25: just considering you raise mining. It's the anniversary today of

1429
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 25: Park River, so it's going to acknowledge that today, and

1430
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 25: so yes, will still some issues over here in there,

1431
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 25: and the fact that the families are meeting with the

1432
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 25: minister today on that anniversary and she's overhauling her health

1433
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 25: and safety regulations.

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 12: You know, as I think it's said.

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01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 24: Well, don't politicize it, Jitty, that's awful. I had the

1436
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 24: Pipe River mind portfolio, spent a lot of time with

1437
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 24: the families down there on a daylight today, you do

1438
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 24: not politicize it. Well, knowledge them, you acknowledge them, and

1439
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 24: you think about them, and there are our thoughts and you.

1440
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 10: Leave it at that.

1441
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So go back to go back to the greens journey.

1442
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: Can you rule out their seven I'm killing seven projects

1443
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: things or not.

1444
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 12: Well, the Greens can announce what they.

1445
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: Like, but from a voterus point of view, we've got

1446
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: to work out what's in what's not.

1447
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 12: No, we don't play that game.

1448
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 25: On the government's fast track and specific projects, we've we've

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01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 25: always said that we will review those projects on a

1450
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 25: case by case basis and government and we've been clear

1451
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 25: that we won't roll things back if they're audioce.

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01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 10: You can see the problem.

1453
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: You can see the point I'd.

1454
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 25: Like to finish place I'd like to finish place them.

1455
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 25: It should be though, looking at offshore wind and Tartanuki

1456
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 25: rather than.

1457
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 12: See bed mining to help bring down power price.

1458
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: You that's my but hold on Ginny, just just for

1459
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: clarity's sake. So what you're saying the Labour Party position

1460
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 2: is we won't be ruling in or out anything the

1461
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: Greens say until after we maybe form government, at which

1462
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: point we'll look at them on a case by case base.

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01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying.

1464
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 25: We'll release our environment policy before the election and will

1465
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 25: make clear what our position is on those areas, but

1466
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 25: we're not doing that today, right.

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01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: That's fine, So your environment policy will contain the information

1468
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: as a potential vot I need to know as to

1469
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: whether those sort of things are going to see the

1470
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: light of day or not.

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Speaker 25: It'll put our position clear on mining in terms of

1472
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 25: where these jobs and where we think there's benefit there

1473
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 25: and other areas where we think that they're not working,

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 25: So it will be clear.

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01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 24: Might hang on a second, there's a massive conflict here.

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01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 24: Jinny was on the radio with us a couple of

1477
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 24: weeks ago saying absolutely not. There will not have any

1478
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 24: bolt ons. They will not increase the CGT. You know,

1479
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 24: it's not a stalking horse. So they were alemant about that.

1480
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 24: Why can't they be at about this policy with the Greens?

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01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 24: Why can't they provide certainty?

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01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be one of the issues

1483
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: in the campaign, gene from both sides in the sense

1484
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: that people want and this is where Peters has got

1485
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: himself into trouble over the years because he does that, well,

1486
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: let the people vote first, all that crap. We want

1487
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: to know what's you know, at the extreme end of

1488
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: the spectrum, what am I voting for?

1489
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 25: That that's fear and were our environment spokesperson, and we'll

1490
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 25: work together to have a clear policy that comes out

1491
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 25: before the election so people know exactly what they're getting,

1492
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 25: and so that the view that we're just going to

1493
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 25: rule that all mining is not the case because.

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01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: No, no, that's fine. You can have your own mining policy.

1495
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: That's that's fine, and you'll be a more moderate version

1496
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: of the Greens. But I mean you're going to be

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: if you're in the election in government with the Greens.

1498
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: And I just want to know, if I'm looking at

1499
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: you guys, do I get the nutters with you or not?

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Speaker 12: Well, no, Mark's got a sis. Now.

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01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 25: The view that is that we will have an environment

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01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 25: policy that lays it clear what our position is.

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01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 12: On mine and we'll include bottom line queer idea.

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 25: Well, it'll say where we see this benefit from warning

1505
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 25: for the New Zealand economy where it does generate jobs,

1506
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 25: and then other areas where it's probably detrimental to other things.

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: But that's your advantage, isn't it, Because at least in

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: looking at you guys, we know where you're at with that,

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Speaker 2: where you're at with New Zealand. First you've got a

1510
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: track record there there will be some bottom lines or not,

1511
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, so people have an understanding

1512
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: of what's possible what's not right. Yeah, and look our

1513
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: tea right now.

1514
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 24: In a world of uncertainty, the best thing that a

1515
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 24: government can do is provide certainty for people. Provide certainty

1516
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 24: for people in terms of whether they want to make

1517
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 24: a big investment a small investment, planning for the future.

1518
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 24: They want to have certainty, They want to know what

1519
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Speaker 24: they can expect in the coming years. And so I

1520
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Speaker 24: just think that it's incumbent upon all parties, especially the government,

1521
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 24: right now, to signal exactly what we're going to do

1522
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 24: and how we're going to do it, just very quickly.

1523
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: Michael didn't get.

1524
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 24: A chance to talk about the Hutbridge deal. Very simply,

1525
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 24: it was a a medic approach where they move some

1526
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 24: money so they could deliver a walking bridge that the

1527
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 24: council asked for. Kieran mac and Oldie Jinny. I think

1528
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 24: even Hipkins tried to Chris Bishop yesterday.

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01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 2: It fell flat. They got nowhere to go. It was

1530
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: a good pragmatic system. Juny.

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Speaker 12: I have no problem with no problem with the bridge.

1532
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Speaker 12: It's the fact you took Yeah, you support the bridge.

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 12: They canceled it. Your government canceled that bridge.

1534
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Speaker 2: Because we didn't cancel anything. We're not under your government.

1535
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Speaker 2: And see we're not.

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01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 24: Pouring pouring millions and millions and millions of dollars into

1537
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,839
Speaker 24: very expensive cycle ways when we're going to be investing

1538
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 24: into our rise and get people mad.

1539
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 12: So don't take money out of housing when people are homeless.

1540
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: Quick, we haven't done any quick question, where's Chippy getting married?

1541
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 12: I do not know.

1542
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 2: I do not know that.

1543
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 26: Do you expect?

1544
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 12: And if I did? I don't know. I think I

1545
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 12: would get in trouble for talking problem on the radio?

1546
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 2: Would you expect an invite you go and do that?

1547
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 12: I hope to get one. I do hope to get one.

1548
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: That would do you want to get.

1549
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Speaker 3: One or not?

1550
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 24: Really, I'm not sure if i'd be top of the

1551
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Speaker 24: list for that.

1552
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: Effect. They nice to see. Nice to see you guys.

1553
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: We'll catch up next week. Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson eight

1554
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Speaker 2: twenty two.

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Speaker 2: the automation, the mobile solutions, the call center tech, the

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Speaker 2: business online. There online Spark Business Pasky Fipsteen votes on

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Speaker 2: the way it'll pass and we'll get you the numbers

1576
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: once the vote has actually finished. The key, of course,

1577
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: is the Senate. Trump has said he wants it out.

1578
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 2: Whether they follow his instructions, I don't know, But the

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: Senate's the real key, not the vote that's going on

1580
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 2: at the moment. The reference to Pike rivers interesting. I'll

1581
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: make a call now. I don't think the lever be

1582
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 2: a prosecution. It's too far down the track evidence, time, memories, witnesses,

1583
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: cost energy. They're still officially allegedly looking at it. I

1584
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:46,440
Speaker 2: don't think the lever be a prosecution across the Tasman sensation.

1585
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: Is that too strong a word? Probably, but certainly a

1586
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: significant day in Victorian politics yesterday. The opposition has got

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01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: themselves a new leader. Her name's Jess. The bloke she

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: beat was Brad. Brad had only been there about three

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: and a half minutes. Jess has only been there about

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01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: four more and a half minute. So they're in like

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01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: a conundrum. They had a big spill, they had a

1592
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: big vote and she won. So Jess Wilson and her

1593
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 2: story with Steve Price, Who's going to be with us

1594
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: directly after the news which is next, You're on the

1595
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: my Cosking Breakfast, the news talk.

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Speaker 9: Set but.

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,520
Speaker 1: Tough on power sharp on inside the my Cosking Breakfast

1598
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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently since nineteen

1599
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Speaker 1: seventy three, news talks Dad be.

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Speaker 2: A couple of people still a roll in and put

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Speaker 2: their vote. This is in the House on the Hill

1602
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: as we speak. This is on the Epstein papers. As

1603
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 2: I said before the news, this is not the main vote.

1604
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: The main vote will be in the Senate. Senate needs

1605
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: to take this vote and run with it. Whether they

1606
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 2: will or not, we assume they will that they followed

1607
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: Trump's instructions. But nevertheless, the House is just wrapping up

1608
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: the vote and everyone so far has voted yes. Twenty

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: three minutes away from nine.

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01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 14: International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

1611
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 14: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: See prices with Australian Morning Mate. Hello there, now, I

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01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: happen to live. I didn't realize it was on, but

1614
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: as I was watching it live and so Jess Wilson,

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01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: who as far as I can work out, has been

1616
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: in politics for about three and a half minutes, rolls

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01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: Brad Batton, who wasn't there for that long either. Does

1618
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: who is she? And does she solve their problem in Victoria?

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 7: Well they hope she will, but I don't believe so.

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 7: I mean, this was quite a remarkable day yesterday. So

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 7: Brad Batton, who you mentioned has only been leader since

1622
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 7: December last year, where he rolled a bloke called John Persuto.

1623
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 7: So they've had three leaders in less than twelve months.

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 7: To Libs, they trail the government of to Cinda Allen,

1625
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 7: which was Daniel Andrews by long way in terms of

1626
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 7: seats they need to win. Baton was starting to make

1627
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 7: ground on law and order. He's a former Copper prison

1628
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 7: officer as a soldier, He's ran a fast food joint.

1629
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 7: So you'd think the sort of perfect liberal candidate to

1630
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 7: take on professional liberal labor politicians like Toscinda Allen. But no,

1631
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 7: they decide they needed to get rid of him in

1632
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 7: still Jess Wilson, thirty five year old millennial, holds an

1633
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 7: Eastern suburb seat, the only Liberal to vote yes in

1634
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 7: the voice referendum. Now why they would think that that

1635
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 7: would appeal to people who want to get rid of

1636
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 7: labor is quite beyond me. She's smart. I've interviewed her

1637
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 7: a number of times on Sky and she seems to

1638
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 7: be very clever. And she's now going to take the

1639
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 7: Allen government on things like the economy, but just to

1640
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 7: keep chopping and changing, and can you believe it, On

1641
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 7: the morning they decide to do this, the poll comes

1642
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 7: out saying Brad Batten's in front in the latest poll

1643
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 7: against the premier. And if you follow the money as

1644
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 7: you and I always know you need to do, the

1645
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 7: book is today have the Labor government of j Just

1646
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 7: Cinder Allen, the worst state government in the history of Australia,

1647
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 7: on a dollar fifty five to win the next election,

1648
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 7: which will be held one year exactly as of tomorrow

1649
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 7: next year, excuse me to the coalition two dollars fifty

1650
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 7: So who knows what the hell's going on?

1651
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: Well, it was Brad Baton a problem or he hadn't

1652
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: had enough time to do anything.

1653
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 7: Well, the experts, whoever they might be, say that he

1654
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 7: was too focused on just law and order. He was

1655
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 7: a one trick pony and he didn't know enough about

1656
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 7: the economics.

1657
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean, give me a break, okay, because I know

1658
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: she worked for KPMG, so that'll be the economy side

1659
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: of it. But she was also Friedenberg's advisor. And I

1660
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 2: always like Fridenburger my foolish and liking Fridenburg. He seemed

1661
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: to be a operator.

1662
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 7: He's a really good boat. Josh Frodenberger. I mean he's

1663
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 7: a great loss to Australian politics. But he's now the

1664
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 7: chairman of a bank, so I don't think he'd be

1665
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 7: coming back.

1666
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: He's overly worried, is he now? No. So Australia was

1667
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: supposed to host COP thirty one, then Turkey got involved

1668
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: and we're in some sort of standoff?

1669
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 10: Is that?

1670
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 2: How does that get resolved?

1671
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 7: Well, it gets resolved. It would appear by Anthony ib

1672
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 7: an Easy saying overnight, well, okay, if Turkey wants it,

1673
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 7: then can have it. I think Anthony ab but Easy

1674
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 7: smelled the rose here and thought this might not be

1675
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 7: that popular to hold this thing in Adelaide. I'm going

1676
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 7: to Adelaide today. But poor old Adelaide. They were someone

1677
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 7: was going to have to stump up somewhere between one

1678
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 7: and two billion billion dollars to host this climate change chatfest.

1679
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 7: And I think Labor has sort of worked out that

1680
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 7: the tide is turning on climate change and the need

1681
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 7: to act quickly on it. I mean, I think you've

1682
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 7: picked that up. We've all picked it up. So he

1683
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 7: said overnight, okay, if Turkey wants a Turkey can have it.

1684
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 7: But he has to keep the Pacific Island nations happy

1685
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 7: because a lot of the Pacific Island nations come over

1686
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 7: to Australia and say our islands are going to drown

1687
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 7: and we need money. So he said he will give

1688
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 7: it to Turkey if they agree that we have a

1689
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 7: leader's meeting somewhere sometime in the Pacific during the COP year,

1690
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 7: so to be a mini COP meeting which would be

1691
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 7: held in I don't know, to valou Samoa or fij

1692
01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 7: or something like that.

1693
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: You said you're going to Adelaide. What happened to John

1694
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: Law's state funeral?

1695
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 7: I'd love to be at Lawsy state funeral. It's on

1696
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 7: this afternoon at San Andre's Cathedral in Sydney. My mother

1697
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 7: turns ninety one today. Awesome, and I think that's much

1698
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 7: more important to go and see her at ninety one.

1699
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 7: That can't stand in a suit in a cathedral, a

1700
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 7: lot of other washed up radio stars saying goodbye to

1701
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 7: a bloke that we didn't really like. So I'm going

1702
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 7: to go to instead.

1703
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: So what do you do with mum? Do you take

1704
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: her out for lunch or do you have a little

1705
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: luncheon or what do you do?

1706
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 7: Lunch's booked? We looked, I'll fly over, We'll go to

1707
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 7: lunch and have a lovely time. I'll tell you at

1708
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 7: Lawsy's funeral this afternoon. No Anthony I beneath the Prime Minister,

1709
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 7: which is quite remarkable, interesting given John Law's reputation in

1710
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 7: interviewing every Prime minister since Sir Robert Menzie's instead elbow

1711
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 7: sending along the Assistant Immigration Minister. And that's a bit

1712
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 7: of a slap for poor old boy. I reckon John

1713
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 7: Howard will be there, Sheryl sandaland says he's not going

1714
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 7: to go because he doesn't like being papped when he's

1715
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 7: in an emotional state. I'm going to believe these people.

1716
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 7: Will Alan Jones turned up, that'll be interesting.

1717
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: Well, funnily enough for you. You were seeing the photo

1718
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: of him. He was hanging out with miss Peacock and

1719
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: she claimed that he wasn't there, and then he was there,

1720
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: and then he turned up at the airport yesterday. So

1721
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: he's out and about, isn't he. It's an interesting set

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Speaker 2: of circumstances with Alan because if I was in the

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Speaker 2: trouble Allen's and would you be wandering around airport's up

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01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 2: and down the country, and I suppose you know it

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Speaker 2: at home.

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Speaker 7: He's got to tell the police when he travels I

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 7: don't know.

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01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 10: I'm real.

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Speaker 7: The other thing I wouldn't be doing is wearing a

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Speaker 7: whatever colored jacket green blue thing.

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Speaker 2: There was unfortunate combination. We'll say hi to your mom

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01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: for me and that is that jeans for you, Steve.

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01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: Do you look at your mom at ninety one and

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: going you see, I'm just forward planning for our future?

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01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: Are you good till you're ninety one?

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Speaker 7: On the show, of course, I mean I've been here

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01:19:58,240 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 7: longer than you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, well so another three or four years

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01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 2: then no, I said, take care. Steve Price out of

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01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: Australia at seventeen tonight.

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01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: At be fourteen to nine. Other thing that happened in

1744
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 2: Australia yesterday was a bloke called Girmish Singh got elected

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01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: as the leader of the National Party in New South Wales.

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01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: So they had a problem there as well. So there's

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01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: all sorts of people getting new jobs. He grows blueberries

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01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: also macadamia's. I'm having trouble with my blueberries. To be

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: frank if very good at the blackberries raspberries intermitted, but

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01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: a good crop generally but the blueberries, which are all

1751
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: in the same area struggling with Carney yesterday got his

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01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: budget through in Canada. And what was interesting about that,

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01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: apart from the fact he spent or promised to spend

1754
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: just a gargantuant amount of money, they're deficit as bigger

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01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 2: than that's ever been is he's a minority government. He's

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01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 2: only got one hundred and sixty eight seats and so

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01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: he needed one hundred and seventy votes and so he

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01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: needed some people to abstain and other people not to.

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01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: But it all worked out well in the end. The

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01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: Greens Bactum of all things very good piece by the way,

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01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: that you should look up. It's in the ABC is

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01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: in the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that wrote that's probably because

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: I agree with them, but they wrote a very good piece.

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01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: Simon Smayle about the Jake Paul Anthony josh were fighting.

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01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm engaged, and this is probably

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01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 2: the link to Parker. And also that thing I keep

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: bringing on about on Netflix about the Hune family and

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01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 2: match Room and the promotion of boxing and Anthony Joshu

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01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: was their man. And I got a text from old

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01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: Dean Longigan the other day when I last mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: But because I can't work out what's Anthony josh were

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01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: doing with Jake Paul. I mean, what's the point of that.

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01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: It's just pathetic anyway, As Dean pointed out, it's all

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01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: about the money, and so josh was going to pull

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 2: down twenty million for this. If he was fighting a

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: regular boxer and a BP to something bigger, he'd pulled

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01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 2: out half a million. So do you take ten or

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01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: do you take half a million? You know? So I

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01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: suppose it's all about the money at the end of

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01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: the day. But the article quotes Sugar ray Leenter with

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 2: a very good quote. It is you don't play boxing.

1782
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 2: You play golf, you play tennis, but you don't play boxing.

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01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: It's why Jake Paul's announced fight against Anthony Joshua is

1784
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: so reckless that foolish doesn't cover it. Even to call

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01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: it idiotic is kind, and I thought, what an excellent

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01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: piece of writing. Boxing's propensity to plumb new depths of

1787
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: moral ambiguity is not new, and its shady and objectionable

1788
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: quest forever larger purses at the expense of genuine sporting

1789
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 2: Merit is a contest yet accepted gripe among fans, A

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01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: constant yet accepted gripe among fans. But this has the

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01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: potential to be another disaster, largely avoidable, played out in

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01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: front of a gore hungry public who care little for

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01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: the outcome beyond baying for the sight of blood. That

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01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 2: speaks to us, I guess, doesn't it. The only stipulation

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01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: in the fight, Joshua's got to come in under one

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01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: hundred and eleven kilos. He doesn't normally is about one

1797
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen. Paul has never weighed more than one

1798
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: hundred and three. Most fights he's at cruiserweight limit of ninety.

1799
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: There are eight to three minute rounds, so it's a

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01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: joke of a fight to start. The point being Paul's

1801
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: in trouble. So Jake Paul talks himself up and he's

1802
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: full of himself. But at the end of the day,

1803
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: the argument here from this bloke who's writing for the

1804
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: ABC is Tyson, although not Tyson. Joshua, although he's not

1805
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 2: what he was, is actually still pretty bloody, being pretty

1806
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 2: pretty good, and he might well smack the Bejesus out

1807
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: of Jake Paul. And the only time that Jake Paul's

1808
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: there ever actually fought anybody that remotely resembled a boxer

1809
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: was when he fought Tommy Fury, who is a joke

1810
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: of a boxer and he's a glamour puss boxer and

1811
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: not a real boxer, and Fury beat him. So I

1812
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: don't know, would you pay money?

1813
01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 9: You will?

1814
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: Of course you will? Would you pay? I need to

1815
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,520
Speaker 2: watch that five ten minutes away from nine.

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: The Mi Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News dogs'd

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Speaker 1: be I.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard the ad from nebell resonate health customer

1819
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Speaker 2: right on the Bay of Plenty, So if you've heard it,

1820
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 2: you'll know exactly what he means. So he says he

1821
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: loves jokes, but he couldn't hear them anymore, which is

1822
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: a problem because of course, if you have to ask

1823
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: so on to repeat the punchline a second or a

1824
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: third times gone, it's over. So you miss out on

1825
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: so much of life, and you don't realize it until

1826
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: you realize it. So Nebll says the moment he got

1827
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: hearing aids, it'd opened everything back up back to normal.

1828
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: So he's out again. He's mixing with people who's heading

1829
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: down to the pub and the noise gets too much

1830
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: at a place like that, you just adjusts the old

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01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: hearing aids for that particular place. That's the brilliance of

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01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: tech these days. So here's the thing. Neville god his

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01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 2: hearing aids funded through acc and he says Resonate they're

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Speaker 2: like friends. This is what Nibble says. They're like friends.

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Speaker 2: They can't help enough. So that is the difference that

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01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: great technology and even better care can make. So if

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: Nevill's story is your story, or you know somebody like Neble,

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Speaker 2: two or you can do it all online at resonatehealth

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Speaker 2: dot co dot mz asking. Britain's announced we'll talk to

1842
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: Rod about this tomorrow. Britain's announced their banning scalping of tickets, so,

1843
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: in other words, you cannot sell a ticket for more

1844
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: than you paid for it. How they're gonna make sure

1845
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: that all happens, I don't know, but they did a lot.

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01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: A lot of artists have said, you know, please help us.

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01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 2: We don't like our fans getting ripped off all that

1848
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But I look at the American situation.

1849
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 2: The problem with not being able to scalp is that,

1850
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 2: of course if you miss out, you miss out and

1851
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: you never get to go to an event. The advantage

1852
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 2: of a place like America, where it's just an open market,

1853
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: a free for all. You can get a ticket essentially

1854
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: to anything if you if you're prepared to pay the money,

1855
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: you do get, if you're desperate, if you're super keen

1856
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: to go, then you can get there, whereas under the

1857
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: British law you can't. Which So who's right, what's right?

1858
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: What's wrong? Five minutes away from nine.

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01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: Davies and gentlemen, let me take you to the Australian

1861
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 2: of the Year Awards in South Australia.

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01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: Senior South Australian of the Year for South Australia is

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01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:05,839
Speaker 4: Malcolm Benoy.

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01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,839
Speaker 2: Congratulations Malcolm.

1865
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 19: The judges are conferring for a second.

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01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 10: It just like the OSCARS.

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01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 26: It is a little bit like the Oscars. A Senior

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01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 26: Australian of the Year is in fact James.

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01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 22: Is it James?

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01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: It is James James Curry.

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01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 26: James Curry.

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01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 2: Just hold we need to.

1873
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 19: Hold for a second.

1874
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 20: It's a bit like a biz show when there's needs

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01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 20: to go upstairs.

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01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 26: Okay, all right, we're moving along as we hear this now.

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01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 26: Apparently it's our notes that are incorrect. The twenty twenty

1878
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 26: six Senior Australian of the Year for South Australia is

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01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 26: Mac Benoy.

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01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 12: Let's do that all again.

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01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 23: Ladies and gentlemen. That is just a miscommunication. We had

1882
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 23: it right all the way along. I don't know what

1883
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 23: has transpired behind the scenes, but it's incorrect information. The

1884
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 23: trophy is correct, the press release is correct. It is

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01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 23: Malcolm ben I'm terribly sorry for the embarrassed.

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01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 9: Where I'm Malcolm.

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01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: And do you remember when they did it? Also? Was

1888
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 2: this was back in twenty ten.

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01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. I don't know what

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01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: to say right now.

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01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 8: I'm feeling a bit sick about this.

1892
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 3: No, I'm so sorry about this.

1893
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 8: Oh my god, I.

1894
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 15: Don't know what to say.

1895
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 10: This is not this is a complete accident. I'm so sorry.

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01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 15: It's Amanda.

1897
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 11: I'm so sorry it was fed to me wrong.

1898
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: That's Australia's next top model, except it wasn't. It was

1899
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 2: the next one to the next plane top model. She

1900
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: was the next big loser and they went on to

1901
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 2: make another program of the same name. That is Us

1902
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 2: for the Day. We return Thursday morning on The mic

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01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast from six as always Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from The mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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