1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: Darcy water Grave Sports Talk coasters with me right now, Hey, Dust. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: We go again. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: So the Blues, it's not you, it's not I'm not 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: making that noise at you. I'm making that noise at 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: what is his name? Is it? Richard? Richard wrote the 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: opinion piece. Okay, so Richard's written an opinion piece and 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: it says why the Blues can hold three all blacks 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: first fives while other Super Rugby teams have none, and 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: then it starts with New Zealand Rugby did not approach 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: the Blues to ask whether they would consider relinquishing one 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: of their three all blacks first eights to play for 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Super Rugby Pacific team because they. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Don't interfere it. They never had, so you're not going to. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Why write an opinion piece about New Zealand Rugby not 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: doing something that the rules don't let them do. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: What upsets that? Maybe the Crusaders had to bring over 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: James O'Connor to help their first five eighth stocks because 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: they haven't got very many. I'm actually it wasn't good 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: last year. What I really like about this though, who 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: was the team that used to hoard first five? 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Stop the Crusaders? 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Thank you? I think that it's important and we'll talk 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: more about that of the evening up after seven o'clock. 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: Chris l Ejem joining us. He's the gem of professional 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: rugby for n z are. Yeah, what their attitude is, 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: how they operated? Do they stick their nose and why 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: don't they stick their chausetas is? 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: We don't do this, we don't. We don't do a 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: player trading system. We don't say to Bowden Barrett, you 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: have to go to the Crusaders now used to be 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: back in the day. 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: When it started. We need to spread our best talent 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: right over super rugby. That's twenty five years ago. It's 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: a long time ago now, and I think it's very 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: important that the players have some control over where they're going, 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: where they're playing, and how they're playing. You look at 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: the Melica back in the day, right couldn't get a 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: shoe in the blue. So you know what, I'm going 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: to take control of this. I'm going down to a 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: tag go bang. Isn't all black? This does happen. But 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: when you look at Auckland Well Boden Barrett's a fallback 42 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: come first five eighth, Harry Plumbers a second five eighth. 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: So they play in different posients. Stephen Pierre fifth, here 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: is a fallback and a first five eight. There are injuries, 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: so you need not a great deal on the ground 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: of first five eighths, but doesn't mean to say you 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: need to spread them. 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: Is Richard trying to start a discussion about whether maybe 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: we should be spreading our talents around, whether ins are 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: actually maybe should have a greater saying where the players are. 51 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to. I can't climb into his 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: head and say that. And there's also discussions around the draft, 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: and maybe we need a draft process to make this 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: appear slightly more equal. 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: That's where Richard's going with it. I am on board 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: with it. 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how it would operate, particularly because 58 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: these clubs aren't privately owned, so the arguments between could 59 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: be interesting. But I don't think ins are are afraid 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: of that. I think they just need to tread carefully 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: and then look at it. Look, we have players out 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: there first five eight. You to remember that over a 63 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: number of years that role was dominated by a couple 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: of players, so really hard for players to come to 65 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of good players out there. 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate you dealing with my frustration there Darcie and 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: trying to do. 68 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: I'm only doing it in the studio on a purely 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: professional basis. I'm not going to deal with anything outside 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: of this. 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Darcy, appreciate it does. Water Grave will be 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: back for Sports Talk at seven this evening. For more 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 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