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Speaker 1: Barry so Per, senior political correspondent with me, Hey, Barry, I.

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Speaker 2: Get a yeah, they can. I just take issue at

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Speaker 2: the start with Jasinda Durn and how she should be

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Speaker 2: used offshore. Ye please, I don't agree, and one of

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Speaker 2: many listeners who are triggered, Oh good, I don't agree

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Speaker 2: in the slightest. I think that Jasinda Durn's fame is

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Speaker 2: going to be very temporary. She may be friends with

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Speaker 2: William and Catherine, and that's why she got her damehood there,

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Speaker 2: which to me was disgrace anyway, if she was proud

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Speaker 2: of it, she should have taken it in this country,

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Speaker 2: not abroad. And the thing is the only fame that

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Speaker 2: Jasinda Durn got, and I traveled with her all during

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Speaker 2: her prime ministership. One was the ghastly Mosque shooting where

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Speaker 2: she cuddled the bereaved people of the victims and Stephen

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Speaker 2: Colbert in New York. I was in the studio when

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Speaker 2: he interviewed her. So she got some fame out of that.

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Speaker 2: And the media did indeed want to see her because

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Speaker 2: she was at the time a young prime mister. I

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Speaker 2: think she was thirty seven. She was unmarried. Then she

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Speaker 2: became pregnant so she was a novelty. Today I don't

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Speaker 2: think she's nearly the novelty she is, and I, certainly

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Speaker 2: as a KIWI don't want to see her representing us overseas.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and fair enough, look, fair enough, everybody's got really

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Speaker 3: strong feelings about her one way or the other. But

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Speaker 3: if you think that her fame is going to be fleeting,

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Speaker 3: what is it that undoes her fame?

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Speaker 2: Oh, she will now fade into oblivion. Basically, she's got

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Speaker 2: a dame hood, so I guess she can use that

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Speaker 2: to some extent, but she's working in some fellowship in

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Speaker 2: Harvard that's not going to make her very famous. I

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Speaker 2: just don't see her. Maybe the Christchurch Call meeting with

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Speaker 2: mccron and Justin Trudeau her old mates, but honestly, I

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Speaker 2: just don't see that she's going to maintain any fame.

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Speaker 2: And what she says, what comes out of her mouth

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Speaker 2: is important and not a lot comes out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I think it's fair point to make that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's not a sustainable right you actually have to have,

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Speaker 3: you actually have to do things in order to sustain

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Speaker 3: your fame. I think, judging by what so Samian Brown

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Speaker 3: has tried very hard to avoid talking about Wellington City Council.

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Speaker 3: But what he has said today does not suggest that

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Speaker 3: he's going to back off here.

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Speaker 2: Oh no. And you know when you look at after

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Speaker 2: the meeting, after he met with Tory van Au in

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Speaker 2: the Beehive, she said she expressed a wish that they

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Speaker 2: wouldn't say the council was shambolic and was unworkable, whereas

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Speaker 2: in fact Nikola Willis, who of course is an MP

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Speaker 2: in the Capitol even though she doesn't hold an electorate

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Speaker 2: that's where she lives, she has called it a shambles

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Speaker 2: and I think that says a lot about what this

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Speaker 2: government's planning. So Simeon Brown says he's now going away

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Speaker 2: to have a chat to his advisors. I think the

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Speaker 2: advice is probably already on his table, and that is

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Speaker 2: in fact, bringing at least an observer to this very

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Speaker 2: dysfunctional council. I heard Nikolae Young on this morning with

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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking and she said that she believes an observer

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Speaker 2: at least should be brought in. And she's been on

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Speaker 2: that council a very long time, much longer than Tory

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Speaker 2: Fano has been.

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Speaker 1: What's it with winniep and the Maori Party.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, they clash all the time. And I think

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Speaker 2: Winston Peters, you know, being a man in his late

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Speaker 2: seventies seventy eight, he finds it very disrespectful the way

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Speaker 2: he's treated by the Maldi Party, and indeed in many

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Speaker 2: occasions he is treated very badly. The latest to and

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Speaker 2: fro between Peters and It was Rawui Waia Tea, and

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Speaker 2: it was over basically questioning Erica Stanford over a Maldi

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Speaker 2: language course. They really got stuck into each other, but

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Speaker 2: it was more going across the house rather than speaking

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Speaker 2: into the microphone. Here is how the fre cars started.

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Speaker 4: It is important that teachers in front of students can

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Speaker 4: pronounce Marty names and use every day common phrase is

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Speaker 4: woven into their teaching. But this particular course was not

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Speaker 4: good value for money, and we can contract better in

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Speaker 4: the future.

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Speaker 2: Supplementary I asked the Minnesota would students at the old

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Speaker 2: Mari lessons learn more if they kept their mouths shut

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Speaker 2: while the teacher was talking. House would come back to

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Speaker 2: what I think?

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Speaker 4: Hang on, yeah, good, excellent, go and have an argument outside.

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Speaker 2: You'd be quiet and here well, And it went on

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Speaker 2: and on with Whitey Tea saying basically rising after that

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Speaker 2: exchange and saying that he was keen Winston. Peter said

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Speaker 2: that you wouldn't last five minutes. Whiteyt said you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: like last five seconds, mate, Peter said you wouldn't last

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Speaker 2: five seconds, and to and fro went. But you know

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Speaker 2: it's not the sort of behavior.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't make it to the door.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why you'd come. You might go out, but

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Speaker 2: you'd come limping back. And I mean Winston talks very tough.

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Speaker 2: He calls people sunshine when they get up his nose,

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Speaker 2: But why do you tea. I don't think I would

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Speaker 2: be taking him on in any wrestling match anyway.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the thing about it is if you

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Speaker 1: had to place t A.

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Speaker 3: B Odds on it, and I already's got the youth,

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Speaker 3: but Winston's got the cunning.

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Speaker 2: But we shouldn't be doing that, should we? When it

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Speaker 2: comes to politicians, Well, I mean they started it. You

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Speaker 2: Reckon might punch below the belt.

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Speaker 1: I know, I Reckon Winston. I Reckon Winston's been in

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Speaker 1: a few dust ups in his time.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you wouldn't even see it coming, and it

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Speaker 3: would be it would be just like an elbow to

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Speaker 3: the nose or something like that, you know, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't go into.

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Speaker 2: There would be no holds bad expression.

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Speaker 3: As you say, maybe below the belt. Hey, Barry, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, Barry so for seeing your political correspondent.

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