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Speaker 1: So we've had an update from the government on its

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Speaker 1: crime reduction targets. One hundred and fifty six thousand people

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Speaker 1: we're victims of violent crime in the year to May.

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Speaker 1: Now that is bad news, but it's also good news

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Speaker 1: because it's twenty nine, twenty nine thousand fewer than when

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Speaker 1: the coalition took office and surpassing their twenty twenty nine

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Speaker 1: goal of twenty thousand fewer. So I'm joined now by

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Speaker 1: Ruth Money, who's the Chief Victims Advisor for the government.

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Speaker 1: Commodity Ruth Good Money down twenty nine thousand, but g

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty six thousand is still a lot.

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Speaker 1: What's that four hundred and fifty people of the victim

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Speaker 1: of violent crime every day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, far, far, far too many. But it is good

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Speaker 2: to see that those numbers are declining.

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Speaker 1: So the question is how to get the numbers down more.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm giving some free stern advice around the sexual

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Speaker 2: violence stamily violence space because that's obviously a huge area

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Speaker 2: of criminality within our community. It's also really good to

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Speaker 2: see that we've got those extra police walking around, which

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Speaker 2: are causes for deterrence, so that's what we need. So

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Speaker 2: everything is heading in the right direction fingers and toes

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Speaker 2: crossed though, because there is still a pretty volatile kind

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Speaker 2: of number to look at. And also we've got some

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Speaker 2: high pressure times that we come through, for example, Christmas

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Speaker 2: for example, it's not a great time for crime and

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Speaker 2: pressure in the community.

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Speaker 1: So it's great that we've got cops on the beat

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Speaker 1: and I get there and that's decreasing crime on our

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Speaker 1: high streets just by their presence. That's great. But I

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Speaker 1: was reading it and I came to the we're talked

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Speaker 1: about sexual assaults and it's sexual assaults are up by

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Speaker 1: three thousand and just the last three months of this

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Speaker 1: survey period. That's a worry. And now, is that because

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Speaker 1: we're getting better at reporting sexual assault or are we

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Speaker 1: getting worse at committing sexual assault?

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Speaker 2: I actually think it's a bit of both. And look

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Speaker 2: that's just my experience speaking. The Crime of the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Crime and Victims Survey actually measures and it's very unique.

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Speaker 2: It measures disclosed crime, so crime that's actually been reported,

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Speaker 2: but it also talks the people who, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: didn't choose to go through the process and disclose it legally.

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Speaker 2: So I think what you'll see is that more people

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Speaker 2: are talking about sexual violence and therefore there is a

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Speaker 2: level of comfort to talk about that it's happened even

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Speaker 2: though it hasn't been reported, So that will be increasing

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Speaker 2: our numbers in terms of I'm brave enough to report it,

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Speaker 2: but I'm also brave enough to talk about it and

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Speaker 2: not report It's there's a lot of nuance when it

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Speaker 2: comes to sexual violence.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's always work to do. Crime, as we say,

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Speaker 1: never sleeps, and I thank you so much for all

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Speaker 1: your advocacy that is worth money.

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Speaker 2: For more from earlier edition with Ryan Bridge.

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