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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for tuning in your great New Zealand. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I watched something last night that you know, I was

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Speaker 2: across this documentary on Apple TV called Music by John

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Speaker 2: Williams and John Williams is just the most incredible movie

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Speaker 2: score composer, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones Et, Superman,

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Speaker 2: the Original Superman theme, Jurassic Park, Shinder's List, Jaws, Close Encounters,

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Speaker 2: the book, just so many Home alone, just an absolute genius.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know his songs, you know, any of them,

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Speaker 2: did Didn't Dinner, so many of them, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Jorge Burner, Durner, durn It, so many themes. Just absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 2: And you know, part of the thing when they say

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Speaker 2: in this documentary talking to all these you know, other people,

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Speaker 2: these filmmakers, you know, George Lucas, Steven Spielberger, On Howard,

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of filmmakers, and you know they're basically

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Speaker 2: saying that their movies, you know, George Lucas says Star

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Speaker 2: Wars was fifty percent music. It was fifty percent how

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Speaker 2: great John Williams music was. And then you've got Steven

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Speaker 2: Spielberg saying that John Williams is so good at composing

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Speaker 2: music that normally you cut the film and you give

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Speaker 2: the music to the edit. But often John Williams's themes

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Speaker 2: just wondering, you know, John Williams, those themes, you know,

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Speaker 2: I wonder in the future, well, they'll be looked back

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Speaker 2: as the great compositions of our time. Movies might have

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Speaker 2: disappeared by then, but you know music, you know how

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Speaker 3: But there's only a handful of movie composes at that level, right.

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Speaker 2: Good, but not in the John Williams, not in the

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Speaker 3: Man, yep, but an absolute genius sometimes are.

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Speaker 2: And before we move on from this, he writes it all,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, genius. That is incredible genius. And so it's called

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Dommentry is called music by Dom John Williams.

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Speaker 2: And you can watch that on Apple. Oh God, you're fantastic.

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Speaker 3: The new secret to staying ahead at work? So on

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Speaker 3: an interesting article where Liam Dan spoke to radio host

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and he said he thinks it'll keep him relevant.

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Speaker 2: But it is interesting, isn't it? Because I think he

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Speaker 2: I mean personally, I know you don't as I was

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a great chat. Half to three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock, there's a new report out from a

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Speaker 3: think tank and it highlights how newsroom cutbacks, newspaper closures,

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Speaker 3: So this is the old old school local rag. They

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Speaker 2: So you're in a smaller community and it's more and

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Speaker 2: But you know, this article argues that the Facebook community pages,

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Speaker 2: But then a lot of people I'm sure will text

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Speaker 3: That's going to be a good chet after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat. It's about our economy.

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Speaker 3: It has stumbled, GDP shrinking zero point nine percent of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what can we do to turn this round? What

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Speaker 2: So what do we need to do to turn this around?

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts. Whose fould is it now? Who's

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Speaker 2: trying to fix it? What's going on eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: that is causing us to be in this current situation.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. Nine two nine two's the text number coming up.

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Speaker 3: We are going to have a chat with Brad Olson.

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Speaker 3: He is the chief executive and principal economist of Infometrics.

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Speaker 3: Will break it down with him, but love to hear

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Speaker 3: your thoughts as well. It is thirteen past one.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of hand Zimmer.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been talked up about a lot of

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Speaker 2: people texting saying Handszimmer is a bit bigger than it was,

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Speaker 2: better than John Williams. You can't argue John Williams has

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Speaker 2: had a bigger impact on the world, more bigger movies

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Speaker 2: than Hans Zimmer. But don't get me wrong, Gladiator one

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Speaker 2: person Texan fantastic Yeah, he's pretty got the new f

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Speaker 3: Bigger yeap nicely said, it is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon due it is sixteen past one. So,

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Speaker 3: as we've been talking about, New Zealand's economy suffered a

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Speaker 3: sharper decline than anticipated. So it dropped zero point nine

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Speaker 2: So how did we get this so wrong? How did

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Speaker 3: We knew it wasn't going to be a pretty number,

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Speaker 3: And I think looking through the numbers, it's clear that

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Speaker 2: Look, if you're a business out there, you were thinking.

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Speaker 3: There were better economic times at the start of this year,

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Speaker 3: you were primed for things to become a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: You were thinking of investing more, you know, putting in

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Speaker 3: I'm going to hold back on on sort of making

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Speaker 3: those big, big decisions. And really that sort of showed

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Speaker 3: through in a number of industries where actually household spending

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Speaker 2: So you know tariffs and such, but how much is

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Speaker 2: local pressures like energy costs coming into play in this number.

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Speaker 3: I suspect it's sort of a culmination of everything, right.

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Speaker 6: It's new numbers around youth offending showing us down fourteen

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Speaker 3: It is halb Ass one. So what strategies should we

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Speaker 3: adopt to reverse the recent economic decline and stimulate growth?

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Speaker 2: A bunch of people texting through and saying, there is

435
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Speaker 2: no problem, lads. I'm a Tyler and Hawk's Bay and

436
00:19:50,453 --> 00:19:53,213
Speaker 2: busy as anything. I'm doing renovation, swimming pools, new bills,

437
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Honestly can't see the slowdown. And if there's

438
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Speaker 2: anybody to learn to tile, please get hold of me.

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Speaker 3: Good on your MUDs. Things are going well for Muzz

440
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Speaker 3: and Hawks Bay.

441
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Speaker 2: So someone says, lowing the OCR. I mean that's you know,

442
00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:09,133
Speaker 2: it's funny with the you don't really have that many

443
00:20:09,213 --> 00:20:12,573
Speaker 2: levers that we understand or talk about, you know, and

444
00:20:12,653 --> 00:20:14,373
Speaker 2: one that we all get our head around as the OCR.

445
00:20:14,493 --> 00:20:16,413
Speaker 2: Lowering the OCR. This Texas is the values the New

446
00:20:16,493 --> 00:20:20,013
Speaker 2: Zealand dollar making everything we import more expensive fuel, cars, electronics,

447
00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:24,373
Speaker 2: consumer goods, there's no free lunch. Absolutely. That's the annoying

448
00:20:24,373 --> 00:20:27,573
Speaker 2: thing about the economy is it's incredibly complex. Yep, very true.

449
00:20:27,573 --> 00:20:30,853
Speaker 2: By complex, i'man complex and this Kate doesn't think so those.

450
00:20:30,893 --> 00:20:33,133
Speaker 2: She says, Hey, guys, the answer is drill, baby drill.

451
00:20:33,613 --> 00:20:37,253
Speaker 2: Just drive around Dubai. Amazing infrastructure all based on oil.

452
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Speaker 2: That's from Kate. Drill baby drill.

453
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Speaker 3: And it's a very good point. I mean, open up

454
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Speaker 3: any industry you can at the moment to get things roaring.

455
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Speaker 3: But what do you say, Oh, one hundred and eighty

456
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Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call headlines with scarlet

457
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Speaker 3: coming up and then plenty of calls to get to.

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Speaker 2: Are you suggesting, Tyler that we have become beholden to

459
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Speaker 2: luxury beliefs and it's time to just go back to

460
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Speaker 2: doing whatever we can to make our economy grows.

461
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Speaker 3: What you're suggesting nicely see it? Yeah, drill baby drill, Just.

462
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Speaker 2: Trying to see what you're suggesting.

463
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Speaker 7: Jew's talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

464
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Speaker 7: no trouble with a blue bubble. Our economies been doing

465
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Speaker 7: worse than any economists had been expecting. Latest data from

466
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Speaker 7: statsn Z show GDP fell zero point nine percent in

467
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Speaker 7: the June quarter after two previous quarters of growth. Media

468
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Speaker 7: lawyers continue to fight in the High Court at Wellington

469
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Speaker 7: today for an injunction to be lifted in the Tom

470
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Speaker 7: Phillips case as key details still can't be reported. Counties

471
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Speaker 7: Monaco police have found the body of a woman who

472
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Speaker 7: went missing from her Maungody home nearly three months ago.

473
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Speaker 7: Eileen Ala Davenport was found in a reserve near Savil Drive.

474
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Speaker 7: Double murder accused Hargung Lees told a mental health expert

475
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Speaker 7: she wishes her kids hadn't died. Lee's on trial at

476
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Speaker 7: the High Court in Auckland, charged with murdering her two

477
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Speaker 7: young children in twenty eighteen. A section of State Highway

478
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Speaker 7: three southeast of Sanson and the mun O W two

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Speaker 7: is closed following a crash. Police believe there are serious

480
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Speaker 7: injuries and motorists should avoid the area. Between Samson and

481
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Speaker 7: Stuart R. Richard Prebble on why separate seats could weaken

482
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Speaker 7: the mighty influence they aim to protect. Read the full

483
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Speaker 7: column at in zed Harold Premium. Now back to matt

484
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Speaker 7: Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Garlett. So with GDP fully more

486
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Speaker 3: than expected zero point nine percent of the dune quarter.

487
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Speaker 3: What should we be doing to try and turn our

488
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Speaker 3: economic fortunes around our one hundred and eighty ten eighty

489
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Speaker 3: is the number to call love to hear your thoughts.

490
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Speaker 3: Plenty of teams coming through on nine two ninety two

491
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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: Dave, welcome to the show your thoughts.

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Speaker 8: Wellcome, I tell us, how are.

494
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Speaker 2: You very good? And thanks for calling?

495
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Speaker 8: Hey, you're welcome.

496
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Speaker 9: Hey.

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Speaker 8: Look, look, we're in a bit of dire straits at

498
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Speaker 8: the moment, and I think thankfully we've got the heavy

499
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Speaker 8: list is the rural agricultural industry, which is keeping us

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Speaker 8: from crossing over to that one percent and more dropping GDP. So,

501
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Speaker 8: you know, thanks to all those farmers out there grafting

502
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Speaker 8: away and ensuring our that the wealth of this country

503
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Speaker 8: continues on how how do we increase our own personal wealth? Look,

504
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Speaker 8: you know, this has been something that's been festering for

505
00:23:20,493 --> 00:23:22,613
Speaker 8: a long time, you know, and I think I think,

506
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Speaker 8: you know, the one of the things that has been

507
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Speaker 8: very smart is the key we saver. I mean, we're

508
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Speaker 8: seeing now New Zealanders with more wealth, but we need

509
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Speaker 8: to put more money in people's pockets, right, now, and

510
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Speaker 8: you know that's that's something that I think is lacking

511
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Speaker 8: very much in the economy. The cost of living in

512
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Speaker 8: this country is going through the roof. And I don't

513
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Speaker 8: mean just food. I mean, you know, the rates on

514
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Speaker 8: your house, insurance on your house, on your car, to fuel.

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Speaker 8: Everything just combines to dumbing down and putting a dull

516
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Speaker 8: you know, sort of view on what people will spend

517
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Speaker 8: your money on and how they'll spend the money. And

518
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Speaker 8: I think you know, New Zealander at the moment are

519
00:24:06,813 --> 00:24:11,853
Speaker 8: feeling very you know, kind of nervous about you know,

520
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Speaker 8: where should they spend their money right now? Should they

521
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Speaker 8: buy that? I mean, TV's are easy. You can walk

522
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Speaker 8: in and buy a TV for five hundred bucks, six

523
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Speaker 8: hundred bucks. But you know, but but in all seriousness,

524
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Speaker 8: you know, those people that are thinking about buying a house,

525
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Speaker 8: building a house, renovating, going on holiday, you know, buying

526
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Speaker 8: something for the kids. It's a tough decision and it

527
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Speaker 8: shouldn't be. Like I said, you know, thank God for

528
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Speaker 8: the for the farmers, but we need to invest more

529
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Speaker 8: in the farming industry. We need to you know, invest

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Speaker 8: in you know, value added for the products that we sell.

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Speaker 8: You know, farmers are doing it really well. The timber

532
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Speaker 8: industry is a class example. I don't agree with you

533
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Speaker 8: guys on the drill baby jewel. That's you know, that's

534
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Speaker 8: just a kind of a it's a very Americanized sort

535
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Speaker 8: of way to sort of look at it.

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Speaker 2: And oh, to be fair, to be fair, David was

537
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Speaker 2: just reading out a text from Kate.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, there's not. The bottom line is guys in

539
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Speaker 8: the in the in that industry, it's not cost effective

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00:25:16,293 --> 00:25:18,973
Speaker 8: to drill in New Zealand. If it was, they'd be

541
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Speaker 8: drilling you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, just jump in there because there's more nuance on that,

544
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Speaker 3: and there's a bit tongue in cheek that I you know,

545
00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:29,173
Speaker 3: reiterated what Kate was saying, the text drill, baby, drill,

546
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Speaker 3: But what I mean by that to give it some nuances.

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Speaker 3: There are gold mining operations down on the Tago and

548
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Speaker 3: they've planned it all out, but they're getting stymied by

549
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Speaker 3: too much red tape. So removing those elements and actually

550
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Speaker 3: allowing these companies to come in and then it's not

551
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Speaker 3: going to be digging up the whole in New Zealand,

552
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Speaker 3: in all our beautiful places. That is not what's been

553
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Speaker 3: asked for here. It's just been asked for a bit

554
00:25:48,813 --> 00:25:52,253
Speaker 3: of a hand to get in there and to you know,

555
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Speaker 3: accumulate some of the resources that we've got, the wealth

556
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Speaker 3: and that resource to be able to make us a

557
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Speaker 3: bit more of a powerhouse in that area. And I

558
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Speaker 3: don't think that's a bad thing.

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Speaker 4: No, no, that's right.

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Speaker 8: But but but it's not as simple as just saying

561
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Speaker 8: to BP or Exon or whatever, come over you and

562
00:26:08,613 --> 00:26:11,733
Speaker 8: duw some go for the help yourself. Look, the reality

563
00:26:11,813 --> 00:26:13,853
Speaker 8: is just speaking on gold. If you go to the

564
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Speaker 8: West Coast right now, if you drive to Graymouth and

565
00:26:16,933 --> 00:26:18,973
Speaker 8: turn off to go to Hiker Ticket right on their beachfront,

566
00:26:18,973 --> 00:26:22,213
Speaker 8: there's massive gold operations all the way down there with coast.

567
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Speaker 8: It's being done and we are digging a lot of

568
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Speaker 8: gold out of New Zealand. And you know, I think

569
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Speaker 8: it's great. And those people that have got those claims

570
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Speaker 8: are making a lot of money. Believe you me right now,

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Speaker 8: at five thousand plus dollars an ounce, it's a good

572
00:26:36,413 --> 00:26:39,773
Speaker 8: business to DM. But the average key, we can't do that,

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Speaker 8: you know, we're talking about like look for me personally,

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Speaker 8: this is the first year I've had to pay text

575
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Speaker 8: I'm a solo father with two kids and I'm paying

576
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Speaker 8: tax to the government. Previously I got tax rebates, you know.

577
00:26:54,453 --> 00:26:56,053
Speaker 8: You know, I'm bringing two kids up by myself and

578
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Speaker 8: all of a sudden they have to pay six hundred

579
00:26:57,493 --> 00:27:00,133
Speaker 8: bucks to the ID. That tells me that, you know,

580
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Speaker 8: things have changed this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not st you're saying, Dave, you you are paying tax,

582
00:27:05,293 --> 00:27:08,293
Speaker 2: but you're saying that you've had to pay more tex

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Speaker 2: over and above.

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Speaker 8: I work full time. Yeah, I work full time. You

585
00:27:12,373 --> 00:27:14,853
Speaker 8: know I paid a tax. I'm effected. I'm you know,

586
00:27:14,853 --> 00:27:17,813
Speaker 8: I'm paying a lot of tax. But you know, this

587
00:27:17,893 --> 00:27:19,653
Speaker 8: is the first year I've had to you know, and

588
00:27:19,973 --> 00:27:23,013
Speaker 8: you know, hello, no working for families.

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Speaker 10: I'm not.

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Speaker 11: I'm not.

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Speaker 8: You know, that's fair enough. I want people that are

592
00:27:26,293 --> 00:27:29,173
Speaker 8: really struggling to get that money. But I'm just saying

593
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Speaker 8: they thinks that the dynamics of change in this country

594
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Speaker 8: and it's and it's really affecting the average Kiwi. I'm

595
00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:39,453
Speaker 8: not talking about the guys that are shipping, you know,

596
00:27:40,413 --> 00:27:43,613
Speaker 8: seats on a target Cananauara again the ship. I'm talking

597
00:27:43,613 --> 00:27:47,573
Speaker 8: about the average Kiwi family, guys and girls that are

598
00:27:47,613 --> 00:27:50,933
Speaker 8: just grafting and we need more money in their pockets.

599
00:27:50,973 --> 00:27:54,733
Speaker 8: We need more money in their pockets to spend. Plus,

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Speaker 8: we need to have seeness for people to go out

601
00:27:56,533 --> 00:27:59,773
Speaker 8: there and you know, make more money. You know, tourism

602
00:27:59,853 --> 00:28:03,293
Speaker 8: is a huge part of our economy right now, and

603
00:28:04,533 --> 00:28:06,773
Speaker 8: we need to focus on value adding that. You know,

604
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Speaker 8: we need to get more higher paying guests to come

605
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Speaker 8: to this country.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for you call, Dave. Yeah,

607
00:28:13,853 --> 00:28:17,453
Speaker 2: interesting point. I mean, the mining is down is one

608
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Speaker 2: of the biggest drops. Mining is down a negative four

609
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Speaker 2: point one percent, But actually household spending is one of

610
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Speaker 2: the bright spots that's up, well, bright spot marginal zero

611
00:28:30,933 --> 00:28:33,733
Speaker 2: point four percent. Yeah, so actually there is a bit

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Speaker 2: of money being spent out of households. But yeah, I

613
00:28:37,853 --> 00:28:41,293
Speaker 2: mean it's complicated because constructions and down and residential construction down.

614
00:28:41,373 --> 00:28:45,853
Speaker 2: That's probably where you actually show people having the confidence

615
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Speaker 2: to spend something as if they're doing arena renow or

616
00:28:48,373 --> 00:28:51,093
Speaker 2: building building residential properties and such.

617
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Speaker 3: That's where the big money's coming in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty. What do you say, though,

620
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Speaker 3: what do we need to do to turn around our

621
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Speaker 3: economic fortunes? Nine nine is teach done, Cedric says Matt

622
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Speaker 3: and Tyler.

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Speaker 2: If you're really serious about progress, then the best place

624
00:29:03,053 --> 00:29:05,333
Speaker 2: to look for gas and oil is the Rolling Hills

625
00:29:05,373 --> 00:29:08,693
Speaker 2: immediately to the south of Cust and North Canterbury. And

626
00:29:09,533 --> 00:29:13,493
Speaker 2: we need to diversify away from agriculture and housing to manufacturing,

627
00:29:13,693 --> 00:29:14,973
Speaker 2: right really.

628
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Speaker 3: Cust, you probably should have kept that to yourself, said Ric.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it on the tennis courts? I played a

630
00:29:19,373 --> 00:29:21,253
Speaker 2: bit of tennis and cuts it's a good place. So

631
00:29:21,453 --> 00:29:22,853
Speaker 2: I've played some tennis south of Cust.

632
00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:24,893
Speaker 3: Dig it up, diag it up and find it. It

633
00:29:24,973 --> 00:29:26,333
Speaker 3: is eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

635
00:29:30,853 --> 00:29:33,453
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

636
00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:35,613
Speaker 1: afternoons news TALKSV.

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Speaker 3: Quarter to two. So what do we need to do

638
00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:39,693
Speaker 3: to get the economy back on track? O e one

639
00:29:39,733 --> 00:29:41,133
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighties to number to call.

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Speaker 2: Mining is booming in Australia. Many people don't want to

641
00:29:43,933 --> 00:29:46,333
Speaker 2: know and lots have short memories. Grant you, Cinda and

642
00:29:46,373 --> 00:29:49,253
Speaker 2: Chris are getting off too easy. They absolutely ruined the economy.

643
00:29:49,493 --> 00:29:52,293
Speaker 2: Think of how a coalition of Labour, Greens and Tipati

644
00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:56,453
Speaker 2: Mahi would really do to New Zealand says, and this

645
00:29:56,533 --> 00:29:59,093
Speaker 2: Texas says high A low dollar is good for exporters,

646
00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:02,613
Speaker 2: which predominantly we predominantly are. Wages will be higher if

647
00:30:02,653 --> 00:30:05,773
Speaker 2: imports are more expensive. We can cope with that, maybe

648
00:30:05,813 --> 00:30:10,813
Speaker 2: repair equipment rather than replaced so soon, therefore creating more jobs.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that text, Dallas, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: You're not a fan of austerity.

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Speaker 12: Well, this new government when they came in, they sort

652
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Speaker 12: of they plunged into austerity. But remember what austerity did

653
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Speaker 12: for England under Liz Trust. It didn't work right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some people would push back and say

655
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Speaker 2: they're not, you know, employing austerity because they're still borrowing

656
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of money from overseas at the moment.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's true, and people don't realize that they're borrowing

658
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Speaker 12: more than Greg Robinson did.

659
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, just to jump in there, Dallas,

660
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Speaker 3: and people have made that argument that it's austerity and

661
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Speaker 3: I don't see that, and I do think, I mean,

662
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Speaker 3: their reason for it was creating that room for future stimulus,

663
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Speaker 3: you know, by pulling back now and trying to reduce

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Speaker 3: the debt we're in. It does have more fiscal firepower

665
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Speaker 3: to respond if the economy worsens or in the event

666
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Speaker 3: of a future crisis, and we will have one, just

667
00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:11,453
Speaker 3: a matter of when, not if. And also that the

668
00:31:11,573 --> 00:31:13,133
Speaker 3: rain and debt, you know, I know that line's been

669
00:31:13,173 --> 00:31:15,333
Speaker 3: trotted out a few times, but it is true that

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Speaker 3: nine point two billion dollars of debt that was repaid

671
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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five fiscal year

672
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Speaker 3: was enough to fund police corrections, justice and customs. That's

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Speaker 3: not a good place to be in.

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Speaker 12: There will always be debt, you know. It's a balance

675
00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:35,333
Speaker 12: tream spending. You need to spend sometimes to make money, right,

676
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Speaker 12: You need to spend money to make money sometimes. And

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Speaker 12: but it's just getting that right, and combined with the

678
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Speaker 12: tax cuts for the rich, you know, they brought that

679
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Speaker 12: into which most people said, what are you doing that

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Speaker 12: for at this time?

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, most people, But yeah, but I mean, so

682
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Speaker 2: you do maybe let's say that you do need to

683
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Speaker 2: spend to make some money sometimes. But do you would

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Speaker 2: you agree that the previous government overspent because a lot

685
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Speaker 2: of money was spent, but we don't seem to have

686
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Speaker 2: made much money from it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Matt, When did need to pull back. That's

688
00:32:09,253 --> 00:32:11,813
Speaker 12: for sure, tightened the built because you know that was

689
00:32:11,933 --> 00:32:16,013
Speaker 12: largely to do with COVID, which and when it came

690
00:32:16,053 --> 00:32:19,053
Speaker 12: to COVID, we didn't actually spend that much more than Australia.

691
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Speaker 12: We spent a lot less than USA during COVID, so

692
00:32:22,773 --> 00:32:25,253
Speaker 12: that's been exaggerated as well. But yeah, we sure need

693
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Speaker 12: to after COVID. We didn't need to pull back, you know,

694
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Speaker 12: tight the bill and that was good. Hey, Matt, just

695
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Speaker 12: one thing on the film music. Yes, I agree film

696
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Speaker 12: film films date. You know, movies date, but the music

697
00:32:42,853 --> 00:32:45,893
Speaker 12: doesn't date because music, a good tune never dates. You know,

698
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Speaker 12: you forget about a movie like some of the I

699
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:54,493
Speaker 12: was thinking about Robert Redford's movies like watch Cassidy Ill

700
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Speaker 12: never I'll never forget that bicycle scene where it's rain

701
00:32:57,093 --> 00:32:58,253
Speaker 12: dropski falling on the head.

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Speaker 2: You know, fantastic of the music, but.

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Speaker 12: The rest of the film I've sort of forgotten about,

704
00:33:04,373 --> 00:33:07,133
Speaker 12: saying with the Sting or any of those great movies.

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Speaker 12: You know, That's why I think John Williams music will

706
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Speaker 12: outlast the movies because movies state with special effects and

707
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Speaker 12: all that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I think you're one hundred percent correct on that.

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Speaker 2: Recently they re released Star Wars, the original run seventy

710
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Speaker 2: seven Star Wars movie. We're getting off topic with that

711
00:33:23,573 --> 00:33:26,533
Speaker 2: fight seventy seven Star Wars movie without the upgrades. You

712
00:33:26,573 --> 00:33:29,373
Speaker 2: know how they did redid the effects and they released

713
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Speaker 2: it and people were surprised how bad it looked really

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Speaker 2: from nineteen seventy seven. But the music incredible. Then the

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00:33:36,253 --> 00:33:38,533
Speaker 2: music will be as good that John Williams score will

716
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Speaker 2: be as good in five hundred years as it was.

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Speaker 2: But that film will be unwatchable to the future humans,

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Speaker 2: I think. But he thank you so much for your call,

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Speaker 2: Dellis appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, chat right. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

721
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Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Getting so many texts

722
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Speaker 3: about how to turn around the economy? On nine two,

723
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Speaker 3: nine to two. We'll get to a few of those

724
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Speaker 3: very shortly. It is eleven to two.

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Speaker 1: Mattis Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: ten eighty. It's Mattie Taylor Adams afternoons News TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB. So what do we need to do to

728
00:34:14,973 --> 00:34:18,133
Speaker 3: turn around our stumbling economy? One hundred and eighty ten

729
00:34:18,133 --> 00:34:18,973
Speaker 3: eighties number to call.

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Speaker 2: My friend Jeff said there is plenty of gold in

731
00:34:21,653 --> 00:34:24,453
Speaker 2: them hills and cust He also said people are still

732
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:26,893
Speaker 2: parking on the burms in some resents and not setting

733
00:34:27,373 --> 00:34:30,853
Speaker 2: their moa low enough when they mow them. Good to know,

734
00:34:31,013 --> 00:34:36,212
Speaker 2: good facts. We spent the most per capita on COVID. Yeah,

735
00:34:36,413 --> 00:34:39,093
Speaker 2: so we did. We spend a lot on COVID, and

736
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Speaker 2: you could argue that we were actually threatened less by

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Speaker 2: COVID than other countries that spent less than us per capita,

738
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Speaker 2: considering our sparse population and the fact that we're a

739
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Speaker 2: little islands, a little group of islands sitting in the

740
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Speaker 2: middle of the South Pacific. But look, we've spent it,

741
00:34:57,453 --> 00:35:00,692
Speaker 2: and that money has been borrowed and this is where

742
00:35:00,693 --> 00:35:01,573
Speaker 2: we are now.

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Speaker 3: Exactly this text uses, guys. We need to encourage and

744
00:35:04,493 --> 00:35:07,733
Speaker 3: expand all primary industries. Also, we need to work on

745
00:35:07,813 --> 00:35:10,413
Speaker 3: how to stop the Australian banks taking so much money

746
00:35:10,533 --> 00:35:13,733
Speaker 3: out of the country. The only other thing would be

747
00:35:14,093 --> 00:35:16,732
Speaker 3: to put Chloe into Finance minister role.

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Speaker 2: You're right, hi, guys. The best way to turn around

749
00:35:21,333 --> 00:35:24,813
Speaker 2: the economy would be a national a labor grand coalition

750
00:35:25,173 --> 00:35:28,533
Speaker 2: that would provide certainty on long term infrastructure, education and health.

751
00:35:28,573 --> 00:35:30,493
Speaker 2: It would be it would be great if the posters

752
00:35:30,533 --> 00:35:33,253
Speaker 2: ask whether people would vote for current coalition or opposition

753
00:35:33,293 --> 00:35:38,173
Speaker 2: coalition or a national labor coalition. Thanks well, Labor don't

754
00:35:38,253 --> 00:35:41,373
Speaker 2: have any really policies out now what they would do.

755
00:35:41,933 --> 00:35:45,413
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure we'll hear some gleeful responses to

756
00:35:45,453 --> 00:35:50,133
Speaker 2: these this current GTB figure from labor, But until we

757
00:35:50,173 --> 00:35:52,173
Speaker 2: know exactly what they plan to do to fix it,

758
00:35:52,653 --> 00:35:54,853
Speaker 2: then it'll be hard to know whether they could form

759
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Speaker 2: a grand coalition between labor and national. But it is interesting,

760
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Speaker 2: isn't it when you look at it, that that labor

761
00:36:00,413 --> 00:36:03,773
Speaker 2: and National do have more in common than say, labor

762
00:36:03,813 --> 00:36:05,333
Speaker 2: do with the Greens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. But as you say that

764
00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:10,093
Speaker 3: tax policy Oho Chippy on yesterday, I think he was

765
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:12,413
Speaker 3: with Heather saying they're going to release that before the

766
00:36:12,533 --> 00:36:15,453
Speaker 3: year's out. But that is close to an election. I

767
00:36:15,453 --> 00:36:17,573
Speaker 3: think most people actually want to hear what has labor

768
00:36:17,613 --> 00:36:19,853
Speaker 3: got in the at tank, What sort of policy or

769
00:36:19,933 --> 00:36:22,613
Speaker 3: ideas have they got to try and turn the economy around.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says, your caller forgets that Labour kept Auckland

771
00:36:25,653 --> 00:36:29,013
Speaker 2: lockdown for months longer than necessary and stuff the entire

772
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Speaker 2: economy and shut it down. Drilling Time to drill again.

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Speaker 2: That's from jam. You know what, A lot of our

774
00:36:35,773 --> 00:36:39,413
Speaker 2: female listeners are big fans of the drilling. They love

775
00:36:39,493 --> 00:36:39,933
Speaker 2: the drilling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good text, Gatto, Matt and Tyler,

777
00:36:42,213 --> 00:36:44,533
Speaker 3: Me and my partner both have good jobs, but the

778
00:36:44,573 --> 00:36:47,373
Speaker 3: cost of living is just too high, especially with the

779
00:36:47,453 --> 00:36:48,853
Speaker 3: energy prices and groceries too.

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00:36:48,933 --> 00:36:49,133
Speaker 2: Kids.

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Speaker 3: We don't qualify for working for families or the new

782
00:36:51,453 --> 00:36:53,653
Speaker 3: family boosts for daycare costs, and we are in the

783
00:36:53,693 --> 00:36:56,053
Speaker 3: middle class that pay high taxes and get nothing back

784
00:36:56,093 --> 00:36:58,813
Speaker 3: from the government. The lower incomes get the benefits. I

785
00:36:58,813 --> 00:37:01,773
Speaker 3: told my partner I'm better off financially after doing calculations

786
00:37:01,773 --> 00:37:03,933
Speaker 3: being a single mum and working the max of twenty

787
00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:06,053
Speaker 3: hours a week, because I would get more money in

788
00:37:06,053 --> 00:37:08,213
Speaker 3: the hand with all the benefits accommodation supplements and the

789
00:37:08,573 --> 00:37:11,253
Speaker 3: benefits then I do now as a truck driver working

790
00:37:11,333 --> 00:37:12,533
Speaker 3: forty five hours a week.

791
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Speaker 2: That's not good. John says to the Two Afternoon Idiots,

792
00:37:17,253 --> 00:37:20,093
Speaker 2: Hi John, Hi John, which should we change our name

793
00:37:20,093 --> 00:37:22,573
Speaker 2: of the show? Matt and Tyler, The Two Afternoon Idiots.

794
00:37:22,933 --> 00:37:25,053
Speaker 2: It's got a nice round at some stage, the useless

795
00:37:25,093 --> 00:37:27,693
Speaker 2: right will have to stop blaming a Dame Jacinda ar

796
00:37:27,733 --> 00:37:29,933
Speaker 2: Don for the current useless A lots of management just

797
00:37:29,973 --> 00:37:32,732
Speaker 2: saying that's from John Lefty. Yeah, I think you've got

798
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:33,093
Speaker 2: a term.

799
00:37:33,173 --> 00:37:35,652
Speaker 3: You've got one term to you know, chuck a bit

800
00:37:35,653 --> 00:37:37,013
Speaker 3: of shade at the last lot.

801
00:37:37,293 --> 00:37:42,053
Speaker 2: We need to expand and encourage all primary industries. Also,

802
00:37:42,133 --> 00:37:44,212
Speaker 2: we need to work out to stop the Australian banks

803
00:37:44,213 --> 00:37:46,133
Speaker 2: taking so much money out of our country. The only

804
00:37:46,173 --> 00:37:49,213
Speaker 2: thing would enemy you read that one out, Yeah, but

805
00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:50,973
Speaker 2: a lot of people need to lead it. When you're

806
00:37:50,973 --> 00:37:52,853
Speaker 2: out it our Tyler, that's the problem with this company

807
00:37:53,253 --> 00:37:56,093
Speaker 2: this country. People not doing the basics in their job.

808
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Speaker 3: Drill Baby, drill seems to be the core idea there.

809
00:38:00,453 --> 00:38:03,333
Speaker 3: But great discussion and we'll see where we end up

810
00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:05,692
Speaker 3: and there'll be a bit more commentary on that over

811
00:38:05,693 --> 00:38:07,533
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks. I'm sure not to me

812
00:38:07,893 --> 00:38:10,893
Speaker 3: not too many people coming out for the Reserve Bank

813
00:38:11,013 --> 00:38:13,213
Speaker 3: saying they need to drop that, but I think they

814
00:38:13,213 --> 00:38:15,573
Speaker 3: will be a big part of the conversation as well.

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00:38:15,773 --> 00:38:15,933
Speaker 1: Well.

816
00:38:15,973 --> 00:38:18,493
Speaker 2: This person solved it in three words and they're all

817
00:38:18,533 --> 00:38:19,613
Speaker 2: the same word. Tourism.

818
00:38:19,933 --> 00:38:23,573
Speaker 3: Tourism and tourism, bring them in and fleece them right

819
00:38:23,653 --> 00:38:27,973
Speaker 3: coming up after two clock local rags newspapers have been

820
00:38:28,013 --> 00:38:30,453
Speaker 3: closed down, left, right and center around the community of

821
00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:33,533
Speaker 3: think tanks. Is that's bad news. But what do you say?

822
00:38:33,733 --> 00:38:35,893
Speaker 3: Love to hear your thoughts on local journalism. Oh we

823
00:38:35,893 --> 00:38:37,613
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

824
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Speaker 3: to call. Nineteen ninety two.

825
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Speaker 2: Ax.

826
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Speaker 3: Here comes News, Sport and Weather.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

828
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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talks IVY.

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Speaker 3: Hello to you, Welcome back into the show at seven

830
00:38:55,693 --> 00:38:58,253
Speaker 3: past two. So let's have a chat about this one

831
00:38:58,293 --> 00:39:00,772
Speaker 3: good story from Shane Curry and The Herald. It's about

832
00:39:00,773 --> 00:39:03,093
Speaker 3: a new report from a think tank which highlights how

833
00:39:03,373 --> 00:39:07,213
Speaker 3: newsrem cutbacks, newspaper closures and shrinking local coverage are creating

834
00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:09,933
Speaker 3: what they call news is. It's around the country, from

835
00:39:09,933 --> 00:39:12,173
Speaker 3: the far North to parts of Auckland and regional towns.

836
00:39:12,413 --> 00:39:15,973
Speaker 3: It says entire communities risk losing access to vital public

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Speaker 3: interest journalism that underpins democracy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a little community papers that might

839
00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:26,573
Speaker 2: comment on issues, council, local body issues that might affect you.

840
00:39:26,893 --> 00:39:31,293
Speaker 2: The punishing speed bumps on your road. I guess that

841
00:39:31,493 --> 00:39:33,533
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that isn't big enough to make the

842
00:39:33,653 --> 00:39:37,773
Speaker 2: news nationally out of the big news centers that like

843
00:39:38,093 --> 00:39:39,253
Speaker 2: we happen to be sitting in the middle of the

844
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Speaker 2: one right now. Yes, so you're worried about that? Are

845
00:39:41,253 --> 00:39:44,293
Speaker 2: you're coming and us deserts? I mean there could be

846
00:39:44,453 --> 00:39:48,212
Speaker 2: the argument that either way, whether these things were still

847
00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:50,373
Speaker 2: existing or not, people might not be engaging with them

848
00:39:51,013 --> 00:39:54,173
Speaker 2: because there is, of course, the rise of the Facebook

849
00:39:54,173 --> 00:39:59,093
Speaker 2: community page. Yes, everyone has a basically everyone I think

850
00:39:59,173 --> 00:40:02,253
Speaker 2: has as a community page for their suburb, for their

851
00:40:02,373 --> 00:40:05,173
Speaker 2: for their town, for their area, for their city, for

852
00:40:05,293 --> 00:40:08,933
Speaker 2: their country. But is that enough? Is that enough for you?

853
00:40:09,493 --> 00:40:12,173
Speaker 2: And you know, tell us about maybe share some of

854
00:40:12,253 --> 00:40:15,732
Speaker 2: your Facebook community pages with us on nine two nine two, yeah,

855
00:40:16,053 --> 00:40:18,213
Speaker 2: and we'll have a look. I mean, is that Are

856
00:40:18,253 --> 00:40:20,693
Speaker 2: you comfortable that that that job that used to be

857
00:40:20,813 --> 00:40:26,573
Speaker 2: held up by the little local rag is now a

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00:40:26,733 --> 00:40:30,652
Speaker 2: community page where anyone can say anything and it isn't

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00:40:30,653 --> 00:40:33,933
Speaker 2: potentially overseen by any kind of regulation.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: I've got to say, I do like the Facebook, my

862
00:40:41,053 --> 00:40:44,253
Speaker 3: local Facebook community page, because there's all sorts in there.

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00:40:44,253 --> 00:40:48,093
Speaker 3: There's people selling, you know, freezers, there's people who are

864
00:40:48,133 --> 00:40:51,453
Speaker 3: looking for a bit of work, babysitting. There's the gossip,

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00:40:51,693 --> 00:40:55,213
Speaker 3: the scandal, a bit of you know, what the neighborhood

866
00:40:55,293 --> 00:40:58,093
Speaker 3: is doing or what they've seen going on, and then

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00:40:58,253 --> 00:41:00,373
Speaker 3: listed in with that is information about what's going on

868
00:41:00,493 --> 00:41:02,493
Speaker 3: in the community. But I think what people love about

869
00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:05,013
Speaker 3: that is an instant right they've got an ability to

870
00:41:05,173 --> 00:41:07,693
Speaker 3: have there, we say on Facebook. But whether that's a

871
00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:10,533
Speaker 3: good thing for overall democracy, I don't know, because I

872
00:41:10,573 --> 00:41:12,373
Speaker 3: can't remember the last time I actually picked up a

873
00:41:12,493 --> 00:41:14,772
Speaker 3: local rag in my area. I wouldn't even know where

874
00:41:14,773 --> 00:41:15,213
Speaker 3: to find them.

875
00:41:15,693 --> 00:41:17,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if I'm on us, there was local

876
00:41:17,573 --> 00:41:20,453
Speaker 2: rags that were that were filling up my mailbox and

877
00:41:21,293 --> 00:41:25,212
Speaker 2: being used for other things around the house other than reading. Yeah,

878
00:41:25,253 --> 00:41:27,213
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that's a I'm saying that may

879
00:41:27,293 --> 00:41:28,613
Speaker 2: well be a failure of myself.

880
00:41:28,773 --> 00:41:31,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one I miss a lot. I haven't seen it.

881
00:41:31,133 --> 00:41:33,613
Speaker 3: Whether it still exists. Coffee news, Remember coffee.

882
00:41:33,293 --> 00:41:34,493
Speaker 2: News, coffin news are still about.

883
00:41:34,693 --> 00:41:35,573
Speaker 3: I love coffee news.

884
00:41:35,613 --> 00:41:35,893
Speaker 2: I haven't.

885
00:41:35,973 --> 00:41:37,853
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's at the coffee shop, but that's

886
00:41:37,973 --> 00:41:40,172
Speaker 3: that's a local rag that I can get behind. There's

887
00:41:40,173 --> 00:41:41,252
Speaker 3: some jokes in there, yea.

888
00:41:42,173 --> 00:41:44,493
Speaker 2: That's a totally different thing. The Coffin News doesn't address

889
00:41:44,573 --> 00:41:49,933
Speaker 2: local issues. That's just a reprinting of some jokes written

890
00:41:49,973 --> 00:41:51,853
Speaker 2: in Canada. Yeah, and a couple of riddles and a

891
00:41:51,893 --> 00:41:53,933
Speaker 2: couple of riddles and some ads for real estate agents.

892
00:41:54,013 --> 00:41:54,212
Speaker 13: Yeah.

893
00:41:54,373 --> 00:41:58,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Coffin News isn't going to fill the gap.

894
00:41:58,813 --> 00:42:00,933
Speaker 2: If you've got the Coffin News, you could still be

895
00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:03,652
Speaker 2: in the news desert and have the Coffee News Tyler.

896
00:42:03,733 --> 00:42:06,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, very nicely said I eight one hundred probably says

897
00:42:06,293 --> 00:42:08,652
Speaker 3: more about me. I eite hundred eighty and eighty. How

898
00:42:08,773 --> 00:42:11,533
Speaker 3: is how important is your local rag in your community?

899
00:42:11,573 --> 00:42:13,533
Speaker 3: Do you still read it on a daily basis? Does

900
00:42:13,573 --> 00:42:15,053
Speaker 3: it cover off what you need to know? Or have

901
00:42:15,173 --> 00:42:16,293
Speaker 3: you just turned to Facebook?

902
00:42:16,493 --> 00:42:19,613
Speaker 2: Yeah? So regions most at risk of becoming a news

903
00:42:19,693 --> 00:42:23,053
Speaker 2: desert according to this article far North Pope or South Taranaki,

904
00:42:23,853 --> 00:42:28,533
Speaker 2: Central Hawks Bay and parts of Wellington and Auckland. Yeah, so,

905
00:42:28,573 --> 00:42:32,293
Speaker 2: I mean, how specific does your community paper need to

906
00:42:32,333 --> 00:42:34,213
Speaker 2: be or your community reporting need to be? Is it

907
00:42:34,333 --> 00:42:37,653
Speaker 2: down to the suburb Because if you say that parts

908
00:42:37,733 --> 00:42:43,053
Speaker 2: of Wellington and Auckland are in danger of becoming news deserts.

909
00:42:43,413 --> 00:42:46,853
Speaker 2: I mean most of the media is situated in Wellington, Auckland.

910
00:42:46,973 --> 00:42:50,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're involved in a local newspaper industry

911
00:42:50,493 --> 00:42:52,333
Speaker 3: or you run one yourself, love to hear from you.

912
00:42:52,413 --> 00:42:54,373
Speaker 3: How's it going? How hard is it to keep it going? Oh,

913
00:42:54,413 --> 00:42:56,493
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

914
00:42:56,573 --> 00:42:58,613
Speaker 2: Well This article says social media is not a solution

915
00:42:58,733 --> 00:43:02,253
Speaker 2: that spreads unchecked information without accountability. So there is that

916
00:43:02,333 --> 00:43:02,652
Speaker 2: as well.

917
00:43:02,853 --> 00:43:05,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is eleven past two. But love to hear

918
00:43:06,013 --> 00:43:08,333
Speaker 3: it from you. Whether you still read your local red

919
00:43:08,613 --> 00:43:10,573
Speaker 3: and how important is it? Or have you just turned

920
00:43:10,613 --> 00:43:11,333
Speaker 3: to Facebook?

921
00:43:11,413 --> 00:43:13,213
Speaker 2: The six says do you use your local rag to

922
00:43:13,253 --> 00:43:15,853
Speaker 2: wipe your I'm not reading that out. Come on, I

923
00:43:15,893 --> 00:43:16,893
Speaker 2: am come on, come on.

924
00:43:18,373 --> 00:43:22,493
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

925
00:43:22,773 --> 00:43:25,773
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So is Facebook group enough

927
00:43:31,453 --> 00:43:34,213
Speaker 3: to replace the local newspaper in your area or are

928
00:43:34,253 --> 00:43:38,213
Speaker 3: we losing something bigger when that professional journalism disappears in

929
00:43:38,373 --> 00:43:39,333
Speaker 3: our local neighborhoods?

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Speaker 2: Loved you your thoughts.

931
00:43:40,013 --> 00:43:41,613
Speaker 3: I wait on hundred and eighty ten eighty is a

932
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Speaker 3: number to call.

933
00:43:42,733 --> 00:43:45,933
Speaker 2: So the special makes a really good point, you know.

934
00:43:46,013 --> 00:43:47,652
Speaker 2: The second part of this, I don't know anything about

935
00:43:47,653 --> 00:43:51,293
Speaker 2: the Selling Times, but the Texas says Selling Times is

936
00:43:51,293 --> 00:43:54,292
Speaker 2: totally left leaning, hints is empowering local Facebook and local

937
00:43:54,373 --> 00:43:57,493
Speaker 2: town rags too afraid to publish anything potentially controversial from

938
00:43:57,733 --> 00:44:02,973
Speaker 2: n so, I mean it's unfitted the pace the community page,

939
00:44:03,053 --> 00:44:06,013
Speaker 2: and Ben also says that the community pages are up

940
00:44:06,093 --> 00:44:09,573
Speaker 2: to date. This is what we want, not some week

941
00:44:09,693 --> 00:44:11,692
Speaker 2: old community news rag. Yeah.

942
00:44:11,773 --> 00:44:13,173
Speaker 3: And that's a big part of it, right, is that

943
00:44:13,293 --> 00:44:17,013
Speaker 3: it's instant if something is happening in your neighborhood. For example,

944
00:44:17,093 --> 00:44:18,893
Speaker 3: something that happens in my neighborhood quite a lot in

945
00:44:18,933 --> 00:44:21,413
Speaker 3: Mount Wellington is the old Chopper. And where do people

946
00:44:21,493 --> 00:44:22,893
Speaker 3: go to talk about the Chopper? They go to the

947
00:44:22,933 --> 00:44:26,293
Speaker 3: Facebook community page to say what is the chopper doing? Oh,

948
00:44:26,333 --> 00:44:28,333
Speaker 3: e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

949
00:44:28,773 --> 00:44:29,812
Speaker 2: Ben, Welcome to the show.

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00:44:31,413 --> 00:44:34,573
Speaker 13: Yeah after you guys. Yet to be honest, I haven't

951
00:44:34,613 --> 00:44:37,373
Speaker 13: read the rag in the years when we go straight

952
00:44:37,413 --> 00:44:40,333
Speaker 13: from the mailbox there recycling. But then you know, the

953
00:44:40,413 --> 00:44:42,453
Speaker 13: only time we keep it is from moving house but

954
00:44:43,093 --> 00:44:45,613
Speaker 13: other than that, no, I'd prefer to get it in

955
00:44:45,733 --> 00:44:46,853
Speaker 13: real time on Facebook.

956
00:44:47,253 --> 00:44:49,613
Speaker 2: Do you think you you know, are you worried that

957
00:44:49,773 --> 00:44:53,733
Speaker 2: what you're getting on Facebook hasn't been checked by anyone,

958
00:44:53,853 --> 00:44:56,613
Speaker 2: doesn't have the the the checks and balances, and what's

959
00:44:56,733 --> 00:44:59,293
Speaker 2: true hasn't been properly researched, et cetera. Ben.

960
00:45:00,813 --> 00:45:02,692
Speaker 13: Yeah, but if you're not sure on something, you can

961
00:45:02,853 --> 00:45:06,333
Speaker 13: research it yourself. A good thing I like about Facebook

962
00:45:06,373 --> 00:45:09,212
Speaker 13: because you get a wide range of view. You don't

963
00:45:09,333 --> 00:45:11,773
Speaker 13: just get the editor's view, because you know, there's also

964
00:45:12,253 --> 00:45:14,893
Speaker 13: two sides for the story a and you know the

965
00:45:15,093 --> 00:45:18,573
Speaker 13: the some of the editors can be quite biased one

966
00:45:18,653 --> 00:45:21,573
Speaker 13: side or the other. So it's it's good to get

967
00:45:21,613 --> 00:45:22,653
Speaker 13: a good range of views.

968
00:45:23,253 --> 00:45:26,732
Speaker 2: Is it mainly positive your your community Facebook page? Ben?

969
00:45:27,053 --> 00:45:29,692
Speaker 2: Or does it does it descend into you know, our

970
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:32,053
Speaker 2: abuse and trolling and that kind of stuff that you

971
00:45:32,133 --> 00:45:34,053
Speaker 2: sometimes see on the internet.

972
00:45:35,693 --> 00:45:38,853
Speaker 13: Well, you know, abuse controlling happens everywhere online these days.

973
00:45:38,893 --> 00:45:42,453
Speaker 13: But no, the people who are pretty good, the administrators generally,

974
00:45:42,693 --> 00:45:44,933
Speaker 13: you know, they'll get rid of someone off the page

975
00:45:44,973 --> 00:45:49,013
Speaker 13: if it's you know, it gets a bit controversial. But yeah,

976
00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:52,533
Speaker 13: they do tolerate, you know, certain things because people do

977
00:45:52,693 --> 00:45:55,733
Speaker 13: have different views, and I think it's healthy and it's

978
00:45:55,773 --> 00:45:56,212
Speaker 13: a good thing.

979
00:45:56,893 --> 00:46:00,773
Speaker 2: Do things like you know, historically in a community paper,

980
00:46:00,933 --> 00:46:03,533
Speaker 2: someone might go to a council meeting and sit through

981
00:46:03,653 --> 00:46:06,373
Speaker 2: it and report on what's going on. Do you get

982
00:46:06,413 --> 00:46:11,333
Speaker 2: that level of I guess investigation would be be the

983
00:46:12,933 --> 00:46:16,172
Speaker 2: the description of it or is it just people having

984
00:46:16,253 --> 00:46:17,613
Speaker 2: their two cents.

985
00:46:17,413 --> 00:46:20,453
Speaker 13: With well, a lot you know a lot of people

986
00:46:20,533 --> 00:46:22,093
Speaker 13: don't have You know, a lot of people are working

987
00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:23,933
Speaker 13: fifty sixty years a week and they've got kids at

988
00:46:23,933 --> 00:46:25,573
Speaker 13: home that you don't have time to go to or

989
00:46:25,613 --> 00:46:27,773
Speaker 13: council meeting. So it gives you a good just to

990
00:46:27,813 --> 00:46:29,693
Speaker 13: what's happening in the area, and if you want to

991
00:46:29,773 --> 00:46:32,133
Speaker 13: know more about something, then you can then go out.

992
00:46:32,173 --> 00:46:33,973
Speaker 13: But there's no point in sitting there a council meeting

993
00:46:34,373 --> 00:46:36,893
Speaker 13: for three hours and watching people just squabboy over stuff.

994
00:46:37,133 --> 00:46:40,692
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I guess someone yeah, I mean someone

995
00:46:40,773 --> 00:46:43,133
Speaker 2: has to go. I mean, do they do we need

996
00:46:43,253 --> 00:46:47,053
Speaker 2: members of the press or members? I mean, I don't

997
00:46:47,053 --> 00:46:49,333
Speaker 2: know if they're doing that anyway. But you know, in

998
00:46:49,413 --> 00:46:51,333
Speaker 2: the kind of dream world, you've got this, You've got

999
00:46:51,413 --> 00:46:54,933
Speaker 2: this person that is very fair and very even and

1000
00:46:55,133 --> 00:46:58,253
Speaker 2: goes in and understands everything that's happening in the council

1001
00:46:58,653 --> 00:47:02,413
Speaker 2: and comes back out and reports just the information in

1002
00:47:02,533 --> 00:47:05,573
Speaker 2: an unbiased fashion. I mean, wouldn't that be great if

1003
00:47:05,573 --> 00:47:07,653
Speaker 2: you had that resource? And isn't there a possibility that

1004
00:47:07,853 --> 00:47:09,333
Speaker 2: that resource is just disappearing?

1005
00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:13,732
Speaker 13: Ben well, as far as I'm concerned in my local area,

1006
00:47:13,773 --> 00:47:18,652
Speaker 13: that resource doesn't exist anymore. You know, like you get

1007
00:47:18,733 --> 00:47:21,653
Speaker 13: some reporters that are one side and some reporters that

1008
00:47:21,693 --> 00:47:25,893
Speaker 13: are the other side, and there's no one really reporting

1009
00:47:25,933 --> 00:47:29,292
Speaker 13: the actual news. You know that it's all opinion based

1010
00:47:29,493 --> 00:47:32,493
Speaker 13: based on the edit of this opinion, and sometimes we

1011
00:47:32,733 --> 00:47:34,453
Speaker 13: don't like that. We just want to hear the news

1012
00:47:34,773 --> 00:47:36,573
Speaker 13: and we can make our own decision, what you know,

1013
00:47:37,013 --> 00:47:38,692
Speaker 13: how we feel about it whatever way.

1014
00:47:38,893 --> 00:47:41,253
Speaker 2: Are you very active on the Facebook page? Your community

1015
00:47:41,253 --> 00:47:43,493
Speaker 2: Facebook page? Being are you? There are quite quite a lot.

1016
00:47:44,693 --> 00:47:46,093
Speaker 13: I might have a scroll for it a couple of

1017
00:47:46,133 --> 00:47:48,653
Speaker 13: times a week, but yeah, I'm.

1018
00:47:48,533 --> 00:47:51,333
Speaker 3: Not on the every day anything spicy.

1019
00:47:51,013 --> 00:47:51,173
Speaker 14: On that.

1020
00:47:53,173 --> 00:47:57,453
Speaker 13: Well, you know, yeah, a few controversial stuff up, you know,

1021
00:47:58,373 --> 00:48:00,973
Speaker 13: so I'm not behaving, you know, in the council meeting

1022
00:48:01,013 --> 00:48:03,253
Speaker 13: the way there should be the stuff. So even now

1023
00:48:03,293 --> 00:48:05,053
Speaker 13: and again on your bean.

1024
00:48:05,453 --> 00:48:07,893
Speaker 2: I mean that. I mean that's the thing, Like, you know,

1025
00:48:07,933 --> 00:48:11,653
Speaker 2: people say that the Facebook page might be biased or

1026
00:48:12,173 --> 00:48:15,453
Speaker 2: there might be misinformation on it, but there's a lot

1027
00:48:15,493 --> 00:48:18,652
Speaker 2: of people out there that don't trust the local rag

1028
00:48:18,693 --> 00:48:20,732
Speaker 2: to tell them the truth as well. Yeah, very true,

1029
00:48:20,893 --> 00:48:21,813
Speaker 2: And that is a shame, is that.

1030
00:48:21,893 --> 00:48:24,613
Speaker 3: I mean, this is going to sound a little bit

1031
00:48:24,653 --> 00:48:27,213
Speaker 3: high and mighty, but I firmly believe there is a

1032
00:48:27,253 --> 00:48:29,573
Speaker 3: place for good journalism. And you can argue whether that's

1033
00:48:29,613 --> 00:48:32,172
Speaker 3: happening at the moment, but it has happened in the past.

1034
00:48:32,213 --> 00:48:34,573
Speaker 3: When you don't have reporters going to these council meetings

1035
00:48:34,693 --> 00:48:37,653
Speaker 3: or things that are happening, then decisions get made without

1036
00:48:37,693 --> 00:48:40,373
Speaker 3: anybody knowing what's going on, and then it's too late

1037
00:48:40,453 --> 00:48:41,893
Speaker 3: by that stage. So that's why you get some of

1038
00:48:41,973 --> 00:48:44,933
Speaker 3: these dicky decisions going ahead. Then they happen, and then

1039
00:48:45,013 --> 00:48:47,133
Speaker 3: the community, by and large years hang on a minute,

1040
00:48:47,173 --> 00:48:49,053
Speaker 3: I didn't know this was happening, and that is part

1041
00:48:49,093 --> 00:48:51,573
Speaker 3: of the reason, right, But that very fact that a

1042
00:48:51,613 --> 00:48:54,172
Speaker 3: lot of people no longer can trust, as we're seen

1043
00:48:54,213 --> 00:48:56,653
Speaker 3: on the text machine, the so called lefty rags.

1044
00:48:56,693 --> 00:48:58,293
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a big problem. He has six

1045
00:48:58,333 --> 00:49:00,413
Speaker 2: says Hey, guys, I don't read The South In Times anymore.

1046
00:49:00,413 --> 00:49:03,893
Speaker 2: It's become a leftist socialist rag sadly ruined after over

1047
00:49:03,933 --> 00:49:06,413
Speaker 2: one hundred years of being a quality newspaper. I mean,

1048
00:49:06,493 --> 00:49:10,413
Speaker 2: the problem for community newspapers is, say, you know, if

1049
00:49:10,413 --> 00:49:12,813
Speaker 2: you're just dealing with community issues in the local area,

1050
00:49:13,173 --> 00:49:14,973
Speaker 2: people are probably more likely to go to the big

1051
00:49:15,053 --> 00:49:18,973
Speaker 2: papers that's going to have the big stories, the global stuff,

1052
00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:21,533
Speaker 2: and then the community Facebook page is going to be

1053
00:49:21,613 --> 00:49:25,732
Speaker 2: pretty visceral compared right. Yeah, it's live, it's it's it's

1054
00:49:25,813 --> 00:49:29,773
Speaker 2: what's happening right now. There can be heated discussions, it's

1055
00:49:29,813 --> 00:49:34,853
Speaker 2: a it's a pretty vibrant and living document. The community Facebook.

1056
00:49:34,533 --> 00:49:36,733
Speaker 3: Page, it's interesting. Yeah, and that's a big thing. But

1057
00:49:36,813 --> 00:49:39,293
Speaker 3: what do you say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1058
00:49:39,813 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 3: can the community Facebook pages fill the gap left by

1059
00:49:42,893 --> 00:49:45,613
Speaker 3: local newspapers shutting down? Can you get your views? As

1060
00:49:45,613 --> 00:49:46,453
Speaker 3: twenty past two.

1061
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Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty

1062
00:49:53,973 --> 00:49:57,493
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talks EDB, News Talks EDB.

1063
00:49:57,693 --> 00:50:01,253
Speaker 3: We're talking about the decline of local rags around the country.

1064
00:50:01,293 --> 00:50:05,252
Speaker 3: A think tank has written an article in Shane Kerry

1065
00:50:05,293 --> 00:50:07,813
Speaker 3: has reported on it in The Herald, effectively saying the

1066
00:50:07,853 --> 00:50:11,373
Speaker 3: closure of these local rags around New Zealand and It's significant,

1067
00:50:12,093 --> 00:50:15,053
Speaker 3: is going to mean bad things for democracy in your neighborhood.

1068
00:50:15,173 --> 00:50:18,013
Speaker 3: But a lot of people are texting through saying where

1069
00:50:18,053 --> 00:50:20,413
Speaker 3: they get the news from now is their local Facebook

1070
00:50:20,413 --> 00:50:21,013
Speaker 3: community group.

1071
00:50:21,373 --> 00:50:24,013
Speaker 2: This article says state social media is not a solution

1072
00:50:24,093 --> 00:50:29,773
Speaker 2: that spreads unchecked information without accountability. So someone here is

1073
00:50:29,773 --> 00:50:33,213
Speaker 2: saying that on the Tetudangi page, we have someone who

1074
00:50:34,133 --> 00:50:36,853
Speaker 2: official information acts all the local work, so we can

1075
00:50:36,933 --> 00:50:39,252
Speaker 2: see the cost and how outrageously priced they are seven

1076
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:43,973
Speaker 2: hundred K for an off the shelf toilet building, for example.

1077
00:50:44,253 --> 00:50:46,772
Speaker 2: So I just gone to the Tetudangy official community page.

1078
00:50:46,813 --> 00:50:50,413
Speaker 2: What have we got here? We've got urgent cat rehoming. Okay,

1079
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Speaker 2: that's that's uplifting. Yep. Anyone else in Teetandangy experienced mail

1080
00:50:55,013 --> 00:50:58,173
Speaker 2: theft recently disappointing. Here's some guy that can mow your

1081
00:50:58,213 --> 00:51:01,373
Speaker 2: lawns for you. There's some good stuff on here. Actually

1082
00:51:01,853 --> 00:51:04,812
Speaker 2: he's doing a good job. The lawn at the cricket club.

1083
00:51:05,173 --> 00:51:08,453
Speaker 2: You got their water care posts on there, says what's

1084
00:51:08,493 --> 00:51:10,813
Speaker 2: coming up? Nice. So it's pretty You've gotta say it's

1085
00:51:10,853 --> 00:51:14,933
Speaker 2: pretty violent. This vibrant might be violent. Haven't anything violent yet?

1086
00:51:15,453 --> 00:51:18,652
Speaker 2: I found an iPhone on Atkinson Road.

1087
00:51:19,013 --> 00:51:19,693
Speaker 3: That's a good person.

1088
00:51:19,773 --> 00:51:22,893
Speaker 2: If you've lost one, DM me and there's a horse?

1089
00:51:23,853 --> 00:51:25,652
Speaker 2: Are they selling the horse or just showing a picture?

1090
00:51:26,093 --> 00:51:28,133
Speaker 2: Is a nice picture of a horse? Nice? Who doesn't

1091
00:51:28,213 --> 00:51:31,813
Speaker 2: like that? So yeah, I mean it'd be hard for

1092
00:51:31,973 --> 00:51:37,093
Speaker 2: a community paper to compete with you know that? Yeah?

1093
00:51:37,693 --> 00:51:40,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, patches of horse and law mold people.

1094
00:51:42,093 --> 00:51:44,853
Speaker 2: Mean it like that, But it's like this, that's happening

1095
00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:47,973
Speaker 2: in real time, all this stuff. Yeah, And that's the problem,

1096
00:51:48,053 --> 00:51:51,773
Speaker 2: isn't it for a community paper being you know, it's

1097
00:51:51,813 --> 00:51:53,613
Speaker 2: only going to come out once a week probably now,

1098
00:51:54,293 --> 00:51:57,453
Speaker 2: and you know, being as as sort of vibrant in

1099
00:51:57,533 --> 00:51:59,253
Speaker 2: the community hard to pull off well.

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00:51:59,333 --> 00:52:02,133
Speaker 3: And whoever that person is who's undertaking those o I

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00:52:02,293 --> 00:52:04,493
Speaker 3: as on behalf of that community page, they are doing

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00:52:04,573 --> 00:52:07,573
Speaker 3: that voluntarily. A newspaper cannot compete with that because it's

1103
00:52:07,653 --> 00:52:10,773
Speaker 3: quite an arduous process. And if it's someone who's retired

1104
00:52:11,053 --> 00:52:13,213
Speaker 3: or they're just very interested and they're undertaking that, that

1105
00:52:13,373 --> 00:52:15,493
Speaker 3: is hours and hours of work they're putting it into that.

1106
00:52:15,533 --> 00:52:17,173
Speaker 2: But is everyone so lucky to have someone in the

1107
00:52:17,213 --> 00:52:19,493
Speaker 2: community that's willing to step up and do that kind

1108
00:52:19,493 --> 00:52:21,893
Speaker 2: of thing, because in the past there were beats in

1109
00:52:22,013 --> 00:52:24,652
Speaker 2: the local paper with things got done. Yeah, people were

1110
00:52:24,653 --> 00:52:26,853
Speaker 2: across what the council did. And if you're lucky enough

1111
00:52:26,893 --> 00:52:29,732
Speaker 2: to have a community where the Facebook page has great

1112
00:52:29,773 --> 00:52:32,172
Speaker 2: new Zealanders on it that are willing to do oia's,

1113
00:52:32,333 --> 00:52:36,613
Speaker 2: then bloody lucky for you. Yeah, probably a lot of them, don't,

1114
00:52:37,973 --> 00:52:38,933
Speaker 2: Craig welcome to show.

1115
00:52:40,173 --> 00:52:41,533
Speaker 15: Yeah, hey, guys, how are you good?

1116
00:52:41,613 --> 00:52:44,813
Speaker 2: Thank you? You know the you know the coffee yews guy,

1117
00:52:45,853 --> 00:52:47,693
Speaker 2: I do, I do, And I just.

1118
00:52:47,773 --> 00:52:50,013
Speaker 15: Wanted to shout out that they're not just copy and

1119
00:52:50,053 --> 00:52:52,373
Speaker 15: paste some of them. I'm sure there are a lot

1120
00:52:52,373 --> 00:52:54,093
Speaker 15: of recycled jokes, but he puts a lot of pride

1121
00:52:54,133 --> 00:52:57,173
Speaker 15: into the stad jokes. He's a proud father, a lot

1122
00:52:57,373 --> 00:53:02,093
Speaker 15: a lot of it's really you know, a networking on paper.

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00:53:02,213 --> 00:53:04,573
Speaker 15: But yeah, I just just didn't want them to be

1124
00:53:05,253 --> 00:53:07,133
Speaker 15: ripped off with the joke side of things. It's probably

1125
00:53:07,133 --> 00:53:08,373
Speaker 15: the most proud part of the bus.

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Speaker 2: Whereabouts Which particular coffee news are you talking about? Because

1127
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:15,093
Speaker 2: they've all got their own little you know, they've got

1128
00:53:15,133 --> 00:53:16,853
Speaker 2: their own little beats, their own little turf.

1129
00:53:17,253 --> 00:53:20,373
Speaker 15: Whereabout the U Yes, no, we're North and Base. But

1130
00:53:20,413 --> 00:53:22,613
Speaker 15: he actually owns the national franchise, so he is the

1131
00:53:22,733 --> 00:53:24,133
Speaker 15: coffee news all.

1132
00:53:24,053 --> 00:53:26,732
Speaker 2: Right, So he generates it for everyone else because the people.

1133
00:53:27,133 --> 00:53:29,773
Speaker 15: Yes, he's the man that signs off the jokes.

1134
00:53:29,973 --> 00:53:32,573
Speaker 2: Ah so people, if you don't know what the coffee

1135
00:53:32,613 --> 00:53:35,373
Speaker 2: News is, it's the sort of would you say, beige.

1136
00:53:35,093 --> 00:53:40,653
Speaker 15: Colored, the non offensive pamphlet you get when you're in

1137
00:53:40,813 --> 00:53:43,893
Speaker 15: the cafe or you know that where the Herald used

1138
00:53:43,893 --> 00:53:46,413
Speaker 15: to be when there's not so much newspaper stuff. That's

1139
00:53:46,573 --> 00:53:49,213
Speaker 15: that's where the coffee News is is quite popular, and

1140
00:53:50,493 --> 00:53:53,093
Speaker 15: a lot of places in North and Still I'm assuming

1141
00:53:53,133 --> 00:53:53,653
Speaker 15: it's everywhere.

1142
00:53:53,973 --> 00:53:55,773
Speaker 2: Well, I'm at the Coffeews dot Cot and Z. You

1143
00:53:55,853 --> 00:53:58,213
Speaker 2: can you can get it online. Oh so is this

1144
00:53:58,933 --> 00:53:59,133
Speaker 2: you look?

1145
00:53:59,213 --> 00:54:00,573
Speaker 15: Moving with the times is important?

1146
00:54:00,773 --> 00:54:02,253
Speaker 2: Ye, Rudy got to be digital.

1147
00:54:03,253 --> 00:54:05,493
Speaker 15: But people take them with them and then they've got

1148
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:07,853
Speaker 15: business cards in the in the form of a pamphlet.

1149
00:54:08,053 --> 00:54:09,533
Speaker 15: It's quite a successful business.

1150
00:54:09,853 --> 00:54:14,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been around for quite some time, isn't it.

1151
00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:15,172
Speaker 16: And so you get.

1152
00:54:15,173 --> 00:54:18,253
Speaker 15: Locals helping locals. It seems to be a very locals

1153
00:54:18,293 --> 00:54:21,093
Speaker 15: helping locals approach and that, yeah, I think that's where it.

1154
00:54:21,373 --> 00:54:24,333
Speaker 15: But like when you're talking about like are people reading

1155
00:54:24,533 --> 00:54:28,533
Speaker 15: newspapers or are they going online? I think generally people

1156
00:54:28,573 --> 00:54:34,133
Speaker 15: are getting away from traditional news altogether, whether it's online

1157
00:54:34,333 --> 00:54:36,613
Speaker 15: or whether it's in print, because a lot of it

1158
00:54:36,693 --> 00:54:38,973
Speaker 15: seems to be really opinionated. It's hard to find the facts,

1159
00:54:39,013 --> 00:54:41,653
Speaker 15: and so it's a it's a different it's a different

1160
00:54:41,653 --> 00:54:44,573
Speaker 15: approach I think when we're seeing and so that's where

1161
00:54:44,613 --> 00:54:47,333
Speaker 15: I back off traditional media a little bit because I

1162
00:54:47,453 --> 00:54:49,013
Speaker 15: just want the news and there's always a lot more

1163
00:54:49,053 --> 00:54:49,253
Speaker 15: to it.

1164
00:54:50,053 --> 00:54:51,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you've got to say that the Coffee

1165
00:54:51,733 --> 00:54:53,013
Speaker 2: News isn't opinionated.

1166
00:54:53,413 --> 00:54:56,573
Speaker 15: It's no, no, it's factual advertising.

1167
00:54:56,973 --> 00:54:58,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it doesn't have and that's not really

1168
00:54:58,853 --> 00:55:02,133
Speaker 2: what it's about. It's some jokes, something to read, some ryersides,

1169
00:55:02,733 --> 00:55:04,733
Speaker 2: and maybe that's quite.

1170
00:55:04,733 --> 00:55:08,173
Speaker 15: Popular because yeah, it hasn't it hasn't changed. It's a

1171
00:55:08,653 --> 00:55:10,853
Speaker 15: it's just exactly as it used to be. So maybe

1172
00:55:10,933 --> 00:55:13,573
Speaker 15: that's why it sort of retained its popularity.

1173
00:55:13,853 --> 00:55:16,773
Speaker 2: Well, Jared May says, I run a tree trimming business

1174
00:55:16,853 --> 00:55:18,813
Speaker 2: in the one or two and have been advertising and

1175
00:55:18,853 --> 00:55:21,493
Speaker 2: coffin News for about five months now. In the first

1176
00:55:21,573 --> 00:55:23,853
Speaker 2: month I didn't see a huge response, but I stuck

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00:55:23,893 --> 00:55:25,933
Speaker 2: with it. Coffin News was the only advertising I was

1178
00:55:25,973 --> 00:55:28,453
Speaker 2: doing at the time. I'm glad I did. Just this week,

1179
00:55:28,533 --> 00:55:30,732
Speaker 2: my team and I completed an eight thousand jobs thinks

1180
00:55:30,853 --> 00:55:32,653
Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars job. Thanks for the coffin news. No

1181
00:55:32,933 --> 00:55:33,653
Speaker 2: coffin news.

1182
00:55:34,613 --> 00:55:37,172
Speaker 12: Well, hey, I'm going to do enough advertising for them.

1183
00:55:37,213 --> 00:55:37,893
Speaker 14: Rudy's a good.

1184
00:55:37,773 --> 00:55:39,772
Speaker 2: Bag of the Yeah, Rudy, I'm looking at a picture

1185
00:55:39,813 --> 00:55:41,533
Speaker 2: of them there, all right, Good on you, Craig. Thanks

1186
00:55:41,573 --> 00:55:44,133
Speaker 2: for ringing in and sticking out for Rudy. That I mean,

1187
00:55:44,573 --> 00:55:46,533
Speaker 2: I think Rudy would agree with me, I'm not. I

1188
00:55:46,573 --> 00:55:48,213
Speaker 2: mean I used to do a whole segment celebrating the

1189
00:55:48,253 --> 00:55:50,252
Speaker 2: coffee news, and I used to share the coffin news

1190
00:55:51,093 --> 00:55:54,053
Speaker 2: jokes on a private radio show. Yep, and so. But

1191
00:55:54,693 --> 00:55:56,813
Speaker 2: I'm sure even Rudy would admit that they're.

1192
00:55:58,613 --> 00:56:02,853
Speaker 3: They're light, yeah, very light, very light, easily digestible. Why

1193
00:56:02,933 --> 00:56:04,292
Speaker 3: you're waiting for your coffee.

1194
00:56:04,213 --> 00:56:05,933
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a coffin news, Jake. If someone's

1195
00:56:06,053 --> 00:56:07,693
Speaker 2: got a coffee news in front of them, could you

1196
00:56:07,733 --> 00:56:11,093
Speaker 2: seen her in a news joke because they're not actually

1197
00:56:11,133 --> 00:56:12,692
Speaker 2: printing the jokes online. They don't want you to try

1198
00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:16,573
Speaker 2: and steal the jokes without picking up the magn too.

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Speaker 3: If you've got Coffee News right in front of you,

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00:56:18,253 --> 00:56:20,772
Speaker 3: our headlines with scarlet coming up, then we're taking more

1201
00:56:20,853 --> 00:56:23,493
Speaker 3: of your calls local rags. Do you still read yours?

1202
00:56:23,733 --> 00:56:25,733
Speaker 3: Or if you turn to the Facebook community page to

1203
00:56:25,813 --> 00:56:27,333
Speaker 3: know what's going on, love to hear your thoughts.

1204
00:56:27,533 --> 00:56:29,293
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of people coming through and talking

1205
00:56:29,413 --> 00:56:33,333
Speaker 2: up their local community Facebook pages, so people love them. Yeah,

1206
00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:35,732
Speaker 2: you know they've been described as a sispeit, but there's

1207
00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:37,533
Speaker 2: a lot of people talking about them in a very

1208
00:56:37,573 --> 00:56:38,133
Speaker 2: positive light.

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00:56:38,253 --> 00:56:41,733
Speaker 3: Love it, Hu's talks.

1210
00:56:41,773 --> 00:56:45,213
Speaker 7: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1211
00:56:45,293 --> 00:56:48,973
Speaker 7: with a blue bubble. Economists remain hopeful New Zealand can

1212
00:56:49,053 --> 00:56:52,653
Speaker 7: avoid another recession. Latest stats and z data has GDP

1213
00:56:52,853 --> 00:56:55,813
Speaker 7: falling zero point nine percent in the June quarter, far

1214
00:56:55,973 --> 00:56:59,652
Speaker 7: worse than any predictions. Another quarter of contraction would put

1215
00:56:59,773 --> 00:57:03,333
Speaker 7: us back in technical recession. Key details in the Tom

1216
00:57:03,373 --> 00:57:06,293
Speaker 7: Phillips case will stay suppressed, but the matter will be

1217
00:57:06,373 --> 00:57:09,013
Speaker 7: discussed again at a yet to be can firmed date.

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00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:12,933
Speaker 7: One person's died following a crash on State Highway three

1219
00:57:13,093 --> 00:57:16,013
Speaker 7: southeast of Samson and the mon Owa two around midday.

1220
00:57:16,493 --> 00:57:19,173
Speaker 7: The crash involved a ute and a truck. The sole

1221
00:57:19,253 --> 00:57:22,773
Speaker 7: occupant of the ute died at the scene. Auckland police

1222
00:57:22,813 --> 00:57:25,133
Speaker 7: have made an arrest in the connection with the alleged

1223
00:57:25,213 --> 00:57:29,213
Speaker 7: murder of courier driver tuipolotu V more than thirteen months ago.

1224
00:57:29,693 --> 00:57:32,333
Speaker 7: A twenty three year old man's been arrested after police

1225
00:57:32,373 --> 00:57:36,413
Speaker 7: executed a search warrant in Otada this morning. A pet

1226
00:57:36,493 --> 00:57:40,373
Speaker 7: Refuge center, which looks after animals escaping family violence, is

1227
00:57:40,493 --> 00:57:43,613
Speaker 7: making an urgent call to the public for funds. Pet

1228
00:57:43,733 --> 00:57:46,173
Speaker 7: Refuge has had to introduce a wait list for every

1229
00:57:46,293 --> 00:57:48,693
Speaker 7: type of pet for the first time in four years

1230
00:57:48,973 --> 00:57:52,973
Speaker 7: due to soaring demand, overtaking donations and are in zed

1231
00:57:53,013 --> 00:57:56,413
Speaker 7: shake up. Top commercial media boss appointed to public broadcasters

1232
00:57:56,493 --> 00:57:59,373
Speaker 7: bought Read this and more from media Insider at Enzet

1233
00:57:59,413 --> 00:58:02,053
Speaker 7: Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Scarlett. We are talking about the

1235
00:58:04,333 --> 00:58:07,373
Speaker 3: decline of local rags around the country. I think Tanks

1236
00:58:07,453 --> 00:58:09,293
Speaker 3: says it's barefood democracy.

1237
00:58:08,893 --> 00:58:10,373
Speaker 2: But what do you say? When was the last time

1238
00:58:10,413 --> 00:58:13,293
Speaker 2: you picked up your local newspaper. So twenty twenty four

1239
00:58:13,373 --> 00:58:16,733
Speaker 2: survey estimated that there's just fourteen hundred journalists remaining in

1240
00:58:16,813 --> 00:58:20,133
Speaker 2: New Zealand, fewer than the New York Times has. Wow,

1241
00:58:20,373 --> 00:58:22,933
Speaker 2: So for our entire country, we have less journalists than

1242
00:58:23,053 --> 00:58:26,373
Speaker 2: one American city newspaper. Hang on a minute, Tyler, are

1243
00:58:26,373 --> 00:58:27,893
Speaker 2: you a journalist? Are you in this fourteen hundred?

1244
00:58:28,013 --> 00:58:30,333
Speaker 3: I have a background of journalism, So take me off

1245
00:58:30,373 --> 00:58:32,133
Speaker 3: that list. I don't think I can call myself a

1246
00:58:32,173 --> 00:58:32,933
Speaker 3: journalist anymore.

1247
00:58:33,013 --> 00:58:35,533
Speaker 2: Okay, onsy three hundred and ninety nine. I hope they

1248
00:58:35,533 --> 00:58:37,613
Speaker 2: didn't count. Hope that didn't count me. I'm definitely not

1249
00:58:37,653 --> 00:58:41,373
Speaker 2: a journalist. Not that I'm saying that I got brother,

1250
00:58:42,133 --> 00:58:43,693
Speaker 2: I'm not on a journalist.

1251
00:58:43,373 --> 00:58:44,733
Speaker 3: One thousand, three hundred and ninety eight.

1252
00:58:44,773 --> 00:58:48,053
Speaker 2: Then can you do shorthand or whatever journalists learn to

1253
00:58:48,133 --> 00:58:50,013
Speaker 2: do with the little pad and they do the squiggles?

1254
00:58:50,133 --> 00:58:52,093
Speaker 3: That's a that's a real saw point, actually, because I

1255
00:58:52,253 --> 00:58:54,693
Speaker 3: used to, and I had to pay a lot of

1256
00:58:54,733 --> 00:58:56,053
Speaker 3: money to get over the line or else I was

1257
00:58:56,093 --> 00:58:59,453
Speaker 3: going to fail broadcast school. And then once I achieved it,

1258
00:58:59,453 --> 00:59:00,853
Speaker 3: I burned to all my te line books and never

1259
00:59:00,893 --> 00:59:02,613
Speaker 3: picked up again and that was a bad thing. So,

1260
00:59:02,613 --> 00:59:04,533
Speaker 3: like learning language, I wish I could because it was

1261
00:59:04,613 --> 00:59:06,173
Speaker 3: kind of cool that I'd write little notes with tea

1262
00:59:06,213 --> 00:59:08,093
Speaker 3: line and nobody care. It was like a secret code.

1263
00:59:08,373 --> 00:59:10,293
Speaker 2: Yes, Now, what happens as journalists just hold up their

1264
00:59:10,293 --> 00:59:13,213
Speaker 2: iPhone and it transcribes what's being said. Yeah, yeah, so

1265
00:59:13,333 --> 00:59:16,093
Speaker 2: it's very easier to do, so you don't need that. So,

1266
00:59:16,853 --> 00:59:20,813
Speaker 2: I mean, this discussion is around local newspapers community newspapers.

1267
00:59:20,973 --> 00:59:23,733
Speaker 2: Forty community newspapers have closed in the past seven years,

1268
00:59:23,813 --> 00:59:27,053
Speaker 2: and this concerned that that we news deserts areas where

1269
00:59:27,093 --> 00:59:32,213
Speaker 2: there is no public interest journalism at all. And the

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00:59:32,293 --> 00:59:36,893
Speaker 2: author of this, Gavin ils Ellis, says that he's actually

1271
00:59:36,973 --> 00:59:41,173
Speaker 2: the former New Zealand Herald editor says that social media

1272
00:59:41,253 --> 00:59:44,693
Speaker 2: is not a solution as it spreads unchecked information without accountability. Yeah.

1273
00:59:44,773 --> 00:59:47,533
Speaker 3: So are you concerned about the decline of your local newspaper?

1274
00:59:48,253 --> 00:59:49,333
Speaker 2: Peter? How are you?

1275
00:59:50,693 --> 00:59:50,893
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1276
00:59:51,013 --> 00:59:54,253
Speaker 3: Good, thanks Scott, And what's your thoughts about do you

1277
00:59:54,333 --> 00:59:55,413
Speaker 3: still read your local rag?

1278
00:59:58,253 --> 01:00:04,853
Speaker 17: Our local reg has died and gone to heaven. It

1279
01:00:05,013 --> 01:00:10,093
Speaker 17: was owned by Stuff and stuff stuff that, as they've

1280
01:00:10,133 --> 01:00:13,253
Speaker 17: done with most of the others, they've bought the papers,

1281
01:00:14,533 --> 01:00:18,053
Speaker 17: sacked the local reporters and printed the same story all

1282
01:00:18,093 --> 01:00:18,693
Speaker 17: over the country.

1283
01:00:19,573 --> 01:00:22,933
Speaker 2: Oh right, so do you feel like you live in

1284
01:00:22,973 --> 01:00:24,133
Speaker 2: the news, does it now? Peter?

1285
01:00:25,493 --> 01:00:31,293
Speaker 17: Absolutely? We are lucky in that we've got someone else

1286
01:00:31,333 --> 01:00:36,493
Speaker 17: coming along and selling the state with a fortnightly paper,

1287
01:00:37,013 --> 01:00:42,653
Speaker 17: and they look to be doing all right, and hopefully

1288
01:00:42,933 --> 01:00:47,693
Speaker 17: that that will continue. But I'm a dinosaur. I don't

1289
01:00:47,813 --> 01:00:51,493
Speaker 17: I don't use Facebook, I say right away from social media.

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Speaker 17: I love to turn my computer off rather than non

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Speaker 17: mm hmm. And I used to have I advertise in

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Speaker 17: my local rags for thirty years as a lawmowing contractor.

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Speaker 17: Half of my work from advertisements in the local rag.

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Speaker 17: The rest we were coming from word of mouth or

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Speaker 17: yellow pages.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're about saying, if you don't mind me asking,

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01:01:22,453 --> 01:01:25,813
Speaker 2: and what was the local rag that that was has

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01:01:25,853 --> 01:01:27,813
Speaker 2: gone away? And what's the new one that's that's that's

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01:01:27,853 --> 01:01:29,613
Speaker 2: turned up that's coming out for not.

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Speaker 17: The Franklin County News is a local rag. I'm in Franklin, Franklin,

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Speaker 17: and it's been replaced with these with the Franklin Times,

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01:01:44,333 --> 01:01:55,693
Speaker 17: which is it's a real reincarnation of the Franklin Times.

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Speaker 17: And and another publication is Mountain Scenes.

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Speaker 2: Is Mountain Scene still operational?

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Speaker 17: Not familiar with that?

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Speaker 2: All right? Right? So, uh mountain Scene that of So

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Speaker 2: you know we're talking about near Queenstown, are we No?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 17: No south.

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Speaker 2: Yea, oh sorry, Yeah, I was actually thinking that there

1311
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Speaker 2: was a pretty small area just to have its own

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Speaker 2: paper scene was a good rag. If that's still exists,

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Speaker 2: I'm still there. I don't know when I looked at

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Speaker 2: Mountain Mountain Scene digital edition. Yeah, the mountain scene is

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Speaker 2: still going, but that's a totally different end of the country.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't help you at all, Peter, So what would

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01:02:38,853 --> 01:02:43,493
Speaker 2: it take you? So you would just never never go

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Speaker 2: to the Facebook community page? Could there ever be a

1319
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Speaker 2: situation where you're thinking, I'm just not finding out what's

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01:02:48,413 --> 01:02:52,133
Speaker 2: happening in my area at all, and and you you

1321
01:02:52,613 --> 01:02:54,773
Speaker 2: would never be willing to dive into the depths of

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Speaker 2: a Facebook.

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Speaker 17: There are times, but you know, really, when the fire

1324
01:03:02,293 --> 01:03:05,013
Speaker 17: staring goes, you have to jump on the local page

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01:03:05,053 --> 01:03:10,973
Speaker 17: to find out where the fire is or who's experiencing

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Speaker 17: some sort of trauma or whatever. You know, I just

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01:03:16,933 --> 01:03:21,653
Speaker 17: see it as unnecessary. Yeah, you know, if I'm desperate,

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Speaker 17: I'll ask my daughter.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's that's you know, that's a that's a community,

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Speaker 2: a news source at its best. Hey, thank you so

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01:03:30,853 --> 01:03:32,333
Speaker 2: much for your call, Peter, appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: It is a hard one, if you know. The Arguably

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Speaker 3: the reason a lot of these are closing down because

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01:03:37,333 --> 01:03:39,653
Speaker 3: they're not making money, right, so you can no line

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Speaker 3: in valuably I mean that's why, yeah, hundred percent. So

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Speaker 3: they can't sell these newspapers. But who's going to pay

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01:03:44,573 --> 01:03:46,853
Speaker 3: for a newspaper a local rag and so giving them

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01:03:46,893 --> 01:03:49,053
Speaker 3: away for free they're making less on advertising. To the

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01:03:49,093 --> 01:03:50,853
Speaker 3: Peter's point, that's the tricky part.

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Speaker 2: Local Rag down mid South Island is this tex Equality

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01:03:56,733 --> 01:04:01,093
Speaker 2: editor is independent. Last editor actually held counsel to account.

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01:04:01,213 --> 01:04:03,573
Speaker 2: Current edit seems to take the easy road and doesn't

1343
01:04:03,653 --> 01:04:06,333
Speaker 2: try to peel back the layers or drill into the detail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah nice, right, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1345
01:04:09,773 --> 01:04:12,613
Speaker 3: the number to call. You're still reading your local rag

1346
01:04:13,773 --> 01:04:16,333
Speaker 3: or have you turned completely to your Facebook community group

1347
01:04:16,373 --> 01:04:19,533
Speaker 3: to find out what's going on? And we are going

1348
01:04:19,613 --> 01:04:22,973
Speaker 3: to have a chat too Rudy Cox who runs the

1349
01:04:23,013 --> 01:04:24,253
Speaker 3: Coffee News very soon.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean this is a totally different thing.

1351
01:04:25,693 --> 01:04:27,893
Speaker 2: You're not going to get information about what your council's

1352
01:04:27,973 --> 01:04:29,653
Speaker 2: doing in the coffee news. So let's just make sure

1353
01:04:29,693 --> 01:04:32,453
Speaker 2: this is more of a fun little read. Yeah, well

1354
01:04:32,573 --> 01:04:35,053
Speaker 2: whilst you're drinking your coffee in a cafe. But it

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01:04:35,133 --> 01:04:36,813
Speaker 2: does have jokes in it and I couldn't find any,

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01:04:36,893 --> 01:04:39,173
Speaker 2: so we'll go straight to the source with Rudy looking

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01:04:39,213 --> 01:04:42,053
Speaker 2: forward to that. That is journalism. It is twenty to three.

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01:04:43,453 --> 01:04:47,573
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons

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01:04:47,853 --> 01:04:50,853
Speaker 1: call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, say'd be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So we're in local papers,

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01:04:53,933 --> 01:04:56,573
Speaker 3: vanish and Facebook groups take over? Who holds power to

1362
01:04:56,653 --> 01:04:58,773
Speaker 3: account in your community? Are you worried about it?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighties the number to call? Yeah, well,

1365
01:05:01,053 --> 01:05:05,653
Speaker 2: a lot of people with their local community newspapers, their

1366
01:05:05,733 --> 01:05:10,653
Speaker 2: local rag disappearing and turning to the Facebook community page.

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Speaker 2: And we've got Jim here and you're an Edmond of

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Speaker 2: a big community page.

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Speaker 10: So yes, I am hi guys. I hopefully do get

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01:05:19,333 --> 01:05:23,213
Speaker 10: the mountain scene as well, do you? Yeah, we got

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01:05:23,253 --> 01:05:24,573
Speaker 10: it the fires out of though not.

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Speaker 2: So from that I can work out which are you are?

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Speaker 10: I'm in Aratown actually beautiful. Yes, it is beautiful, and

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01:05:35,013 --> 01:05:39,813
Speaker 10: it's a special wee town. So there is you know,

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01:05:40,373 --> 01:05:42,253
Speaker 10: what's a place like Eratown. There is a lot of

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01:05:42,333 --> 01:05:46,333
Speaker 10: people with a lot of different opinions. It was a

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01:05:46,533 --> 01:05:50,413
Speaker 10: very small rural town to begin with, and it's gotten

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01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:54,493
Speaker 10: quite a lot bigger. So yeah, it's quite a good

1379
01:05:54,613 --> 01:05:59,573
Speaker 10: job actually being an edmund. And I heard you guys

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01:05:59,613 --> 01:06:02,893
Speaker 10: saying earlier that you know, there's no one sort of

1381
01:06:02,973 --> 01:06:05,613
Speaker 10: monitoring what goes up on the page and things like that,

1382
01:06:05,853 --> 01:06:09,533
Speaker 10: But it's me and a couple of others and we

1383
01:06:09,773 --> 01:06:11,493
Speaker 10: do actually monitor.

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Speaker 2: What goes up and what kind of stuff do you

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01:06:14,573 --> 01:06:15,733
Speaker 2: stop from going up.

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Speaker 10: I try and like create a culture with it that

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01:06:20,333 --> 01:06:24,413
Speaker 10: it's not like a winge page or you know, people

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01:06:26,293 --> 01:06:29,493
Speaker 10: getting out their pitchforks about things and stuff like that.

1389
01:06:29,733 --> 01:06:33,533
Speaker 10: We try and keep it so it's you know, trading.

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01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:35,493
Speaker 10: There is a lot of stuff where people have their

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01:06:35,533 --> 01:06:38,493
Speaker 10: opinions and that's fine as long as they're not being abusive.

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Speaker 10: We still let that happen. But yeah, you would laugh

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01:06:42,853 --> 01:06:45,493
Speaker 10: at some of the things that people, like a dog

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01:06:45,613 --> 01:06:50,093
Speaker 10: walked on my lawn at three o'clock yesterday, that we like, Yeah,

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01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:52,053
Speaker 10: now you can put that on your own Facebook.

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Speaker 2: Are you at your Are you at your computer right now?

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Speaker 10: Jimmy nopuay to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 12: But I just work on a computer.

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Speaker 2: I just asked to join.

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Speaker 10: I'll think about it. You have to tell me what

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01:07:06,573 --> 01:07:07,293
Speaker 10: street you live on.

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01:07:08,373 --> 01:07:08,453
Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 10: That's the other thing though, is there's so many scammers

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01:07:11,333 --> 01:07:12,613
Speaker 10: try and get them on the right.

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01:07:13,093 --> 01:07:14,773
Speaker 2: Have a scammer And I spend quite a lot of

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01:07:14,773 --> 01:07:16,653
Speaker 2: time in I spend a lot of time in Arrowtown,

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01:07:16,693 --> 01:07:18,093
Speaker 2: but just more of a tourist. I'm sort of more

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01:07:18,093 --> 01:07:19,573
Speaker 2: around the slope Hilaria, to be honest.

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Speaker 10: But I know, as long as as long as someone

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Speaker 10: looks like a human, I'll let them in. I'm not

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01:07:23,733 --> 01:07:24,733
Speaker 10: to snobby about it.

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Speaker 2: But I look reasonably human. Episode it does it get

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01:07:28,693 --> 01:07:31,333
Speaker 2: political on the aer and town because you're living in

1414
01:07:31,573 --> 01:07:34,613
Speaker 2: beautiful paradise that you know, I don't there's too much

1415
01:07:34,693 --> 01:07:36,493
Speaker 2: stress down there. The people get political on it.

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Speaker 10: We've had a lot of stuff going on with like intensification,

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01:07:40,413 --> 01:07:46,453
Speaker 10: and so I've actually joined the Aratown Village Association, which

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01:07:46,773 --> 01:07:51,693
Speaker 10: is kind of the go between between the community and QLDC.

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01:07:52,053 --> 01:07:55,613
Speaker 10: So I try and keep across those sort of issues

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01:07:55,693 --> 01:07:59,533
Speaker 10: so I can sort of spot when people are not

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01:07:59,893 --> 01:08:02,853
Speaker 10: really coming across with the full troth here and there.

1422
01:08:03,133 --> 01:08:07,013
Speaker 10: Yeah right, So yeah, I do honest for things like that,

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01:08:08,053 --> 01:08:10,773
Speaker 10: but we also put a lot of information out there,

1424
01:08:11,253 --> 01:08:13,893
Speaker 10: like asking for people's opinions on stuff, and I think

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01:08:13,933 --> 01:08:18,452
Speaker 10: if you're doing that regularly, you're less likely then to

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01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:21,893
Speaker 10: just get people moaning, like because they're getting to have

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01:08:21,973 --> 01:08:22,333
Speaker 10: a say.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, you know, as you say, it's a

1429
01:08:24,572 --> 01:08:27,892
Speaker 2: lot of work, it sounds like a huge job. And look,

1430
01:08:27,933 --> 01:08:30,972
Speaker 2: one of the things that the old local rag used

1431
01:08:30,973 --> 01:08:33,172
Speaker 2: to do and I don't know how long ago Eratown

1432
01:08:33,253 --> 01:08:37,253
Speaker 2: had its own newspaper, but things like going along to

1433
01:08:37,333 --> 01:08:40,293
Speaker 2: council meetings and you know, running a beat and being

1434
01:08:40,893 --> 01:08:43,972
Speaker 2: across what's coming up. I mean that's too much work

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01:08:44,013 --> 01:08:46,732
Speaker 2: for someone or or do you have people that really

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01:08:46,812 --> 01:08:49,612
Speaker 2: focused in on that and just volunteer that kind of

1437
01:08:50,133 --> 01:08:51,012
Speaker 2: information and time.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I do because I'm really passionate about it, Like

1439
01:08:55,772 --> 01:08:59,093
Speaker 10: I care about rosown a lot. So I'm happy to

1440
01:08:59,173 --> 01:09:01,133
Speaker 10: do that. And it just kind of fits in with

1441
01:09:01,812 --> 01:09:05,532
Speaker 10: like I was given the job as admin and COVID

1442
01:09:05,612 --> 01:09:08,133
Speaker 10: when I didn't have a job, so I was like, yeah,

1443
01:09:08,173 --> 01:09:11,293
Speaker 10: well why not okay, and then it's kind of like

1444
01:09:11,973 --> 01:09:15,532
Speaker 10: it's just become this whole other thing. But just when

1445
01:09:15,532 --> 01:09:18,253
Speaker 10: I'm ready to quit a really good bargain, we'll come

1446
01:09:18,333 --> 01:09:20,772
Speaker 10: up and I'll be like, Okay, I'll stay a bit longer.

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01:09:21,612 --> 01:09:22,293
Speaker 3: Robes you back in.

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01:09:23,372 --> 01:09:26,253
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, good stuff gets siven away around here.

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01:09:26,572 --> 01:09:28,652
Speaker 3: Has there been anyone you've had to remove from the

1450
01:09:28,692 --> 01:09:30,692
Speaker 3: community page and they've got a bit feisty day?

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01:09:30,853 --> 01:09:35,333
Speaker 10: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I happily do it if

1452
01:09:35,372 --> 01:09:38,013
Speaker 10: people are road to me, you know, like if they

1453
01:09:38,213 --> 01:09:40,852
Speaker 10: send me a DM that's being nasty a road I'm

1454
01:09:40,893 --> 01:09:41,492
Speaker 10: just like to see you.

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01:09:41,853 --> 01:09:44,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking at one of your rules right here.

1456
01:09:44,812 --> 01:09:47,532
Speaker 3: You're permitted to one business self plug per week. With

1457
01:09:47,652 --> 01:09:49,692
Speaker 3: some of the businesses getting a bit cheeky with their plugging,

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01:09:51,173 --> 01:09:52,532
Speaker 3: they do, but they get a warning.

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01:09:52,652 --> 01:09:56,053
Speaker 10: I'm like, hey, hey, remember, but yeah, we kind of

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01:09:56,133 --> 01:09:58,133
Speaker 10: have to do that just so it doesn't turn into

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01:09:58,412 --> 01:10:01,492
Speaker 10: like a business. But we're happy for the locals to

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01:10:01,772 --> 01:10:04,093
Speaker 10: just you know, do we post here and there?

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01:10:04,253 --> 01:10:07,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, So do people know that you are running this

1464
01:10:07,333 --> 01:10:09,932
Speaker 2: particular page. Imagine it's important in the town. You seem

1465
01:10:09,933 --> 01:10:13,293
Speaker 2: to have about eight thousand members, so if you're walking

1466
01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:15,412
Speaker 2: down Buckingham Street to someone come up and say hey,

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01:10:15,532 --> 01:10:17,652
Speaker 2: Jimma blah blah blah, like they might if you were

1468
01:10:17,692 --> 01:10:19,652
Speaker 2: the editor of a newspaper back in the day.

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01:10:20,652 --> 01:10:25,013
Speaker 10: Yeah, totally that. I do get messages saying thanks and

1470
01:10:25,253 --> 01:10:27,492
Speaker 10: like you do a good job and stuff like that,

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01:10:27,692 --> 01:10:31,293
Speaker 10: which is always nice. But being a small town, everyone

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01:10:31,372 --> 01:10:34,093
Speaker 10: knows everyone anyway, so they know not to.

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01:10:34,133 --> 01:10:37,933
Speaker 2: Mess with me, and so you do it really. I mean,

1474
01:10:37,973 --> 01:10:40,652
Speaker 2: you were joking before about the bargains that might pop up,

1475
01:10:40,692 --> 01:10:43,052
Speaker 2: but you do it because you believe in your local

1476
01:10:43,133 --> 01:10:45,932
Speaker 2: community and you think this isn't important and you're willing

1477
01:10:45,973 --> 01:10:49,892
Speaker 2: to pump a lot of hours into it. So you're

1478
01:10:49,933 --> 01:10:51,973
Speaker 2: sort of doing this out of the kindness of your

1479
01:10:52,013 --> 01:10:55,012
Speaker 2: heart and accalling to your community.

1480
01:10:56,372 --> 01:10:59,692
Speaker 10: Yeah, pretty much. And there is like a couple of

1481
01:10:59,772 --> 01:11:04,572
Speaker 10: others as well that help out, so like, yeah, it's

1482
01:11:04,612 --> 01:11:07,093
Speaker 10: not just me. I can't take the full credit for it,

1483
01:11:07,293 --> 01:11:11,812
Speaker 10: but yeah, I've just bought my first house here and

1484
01:11:12,213 --> 01:11:15,572
Speaker 10: I grew up in Queenstown, so yeah, I'm you know,

1485
01:11:15,652 --> 01:11:17,732
Speaker 10: I love it here, so I'm happy to do it.

1486
01:11:18,933 --> 01:11:21,133
Speaker 10: But you know I go up and down with that.

1487
01:11:22,412 --> 01:11:24,532
Speaker 2: Well, let me in, I'm down in aratown like at

1488
01:11:24,612 --> 01:11:25,852
Speaker 2: least three times a year. So let me in.

1489
01:11:25,933 --> 01:11:28,133
Speaker 3: I've applied to be in the page. It's pretty much

1490
01:11:28,173 --> 01:11:32,492
Speaker 3: a resident neighbor. Yeah, the questions Matt.

1491
01:11:32,333 --> 01:11:34,133
Speaker 2: See what a great newsaland the gym is right? That

1492
01:11:34,372 --> 01:11:37,532
Speaker 2: is doing that hard. He just for her community.

1493
01:11:37,652 --> 01:11:39,492
Speaker 3: Need more people like jim a right. Oh, one hundred

1494
01:11:39,492 --> 01:11:41,093
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And

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01:11:41,133 --> 01:11:43,452
Speaker 3: coming up after the break, we're gonna have a chat

1496
01:11:43,772 --> 01:11:46,612
Speaker 3: to the man who runs Coffee News. It is eleven

1497
01:11:46,652 --> 01:11:50,093
Speaker 3: to three, the issues that affect you and a bit

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01:11:50,133 --> 01:11:51,093
Speaker 3: of fun along the way.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News Talks B.

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Speaker 3: News Talks B. So we've been talking about the decline

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01:11:58,652 --> 01:12:02,012
Speaker 3: of local newspapers and are people just turning to Facebook

1502
01:12:02,253 --> 01:12:03,132
Speaker 3: community groups.

1503
01:12:04,692 --> 01:12:06,732
Speaker 2: I'm in, you are your own. You just let you in.

1504
01:12:06,893 --> 01:12:09,333
Speaker 2: Jim has let me into the Era to Arm community page.

1505
01:12:09,893 --> 01:12:11,892
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at that. There's so much stuff

1506
01:12:11,933 --> 01:12:12,492
Speaker 2: going on here.

1507
01:12:12,652 --> 01:12:15,172
Speaker 3: Can I just check some mine's still pinding?

1508
01:12:16,013 --> 01:12:19,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, don't bother leving Tyler and he'll just start

1509
01:12:19,333 --> 01:12:21,372
Speaker 2: trolling everyone. Yeah, you'll have to kick him out, let

1510
01:12:21,452 --> 01:12:23,372
Speaker 2: him in. Yeah, there's probably safe. Jimmy dn'tly me and

1511
01:12:23,532 --> 01:12:27,092
Speaker 2: I feel so privileged to be in the Arrowtown community page.

1512
01:12:27,173 --> 01:12:29,412
Speaker 2: You lucky lucky man? Is the cat still living in

1513
01:12:29,492 --> 01:12:32,213
Speaker 2: the movie theater? Good question? I'm going to post that. Yeah,

1514
01:12:32,333 --> 01:12:35,972
Speaker 2: OKAYX was the cat called socks? I don't know. Okay,

1515
01:12:37,572 --> 01:12:38,732
Speaker 2: post and you'll get an answer.

1516
01:12:38,853 --> 01:12:38,933
Speaker 16: Right.

1517
01:12:39,013 --> 01:12:42,173
Speaker 3: We have also been heaving and we chat about coffee news.

1518
01:12:42,213 --> 01:12:44,052
Speaker 3: A lot of people rang to talk about the coffee

1519
01:12:44,093 --> 01:12:46,372
Speaker 3: news that they some hadn't seen in a while, but

1520
01:12:46,492 --> 01:12:48,772
Speaker 3: others absolutely love it. So we've trekked down the man

1521
01:12:48,812 --> 01:12:51,532
Speaker 3: who runs coffee news around the country. His name is

1522
01:12:51,572 --> 01:12:53,133
Speaker 3: Rudy Cox and he's on the line. Now, get a

1523
01:12:53,213 --> 01:12:56,412
Speaker 3: ready good day, How are you a very good.

1524
01:12:56,333 --> 01:12:58,452
Speaker 2: Thanks for talking to us. What niche does the coffin

1525
01:12:58,532 --> 01:13:00,572
Speaker 2: news fill in the New Zealand media landscape?

1526
01:13:00,652 --> 01:13:04,372
Speaker 16: Rudy, it's just fun and it's positive.

1527
01:13:04,652 --> 01:13:07,333
Speaker 18: It's all like when I scrawled to my Facebook, all

1528
01:13:07,372 --> 01:13:11,892
Speaker 18: I get is this car guy that that in the US,

1529
01:13:12,013 --> 01:13:13,812
Speaker 18: and it's like all doom and doom and it's all

1530
01:13:13,933 --> 01:13:17,333
Speaker 18: like and then there's AI commercials and people trying to

1531
01:13:17,412 --> 01:13:22,452
Speaker 18: sell you shit and it's we're just We're just all locals.

1532
01:13:22,532 --> 01:13:24,892
Speaker 18: The people that are in your newspaper. Are all locals

1533
01:13:24,933 --> 01:13:26,452
Speaker 18: in your coffee news, so we love it.

1534
01:13:26,612 --> 01:13:28,772
Speaker 2: So how many how many franchises are out there? How

1535
01:13:28,853 --> 01:13:32,093
Speaker 2: much of the country does it cover? Rudy Currently we.

1536
01:13:32,612 --> 01:13:37,893
Speaker 18: Have seventeen different editions, but we are heavily recruiting, so

1537
01:13:38,053 --> 01:13:42,492
Speaker 18: we know there are places that want it and and

1538
01:13:42,732 --> 01:13:45,372
Speaker 18: haven't haven't got there yet or they you know with

1539
01:13:45,532 --> 01:13:49,093
Speaker 18: COVID when when cafes closed, we're still trying to sort

1540
01:13:49,093 --> 01:13:51,372
Speaker 18: of like find those those people that actually just want

1541
01:13:51,812 --> 01:13:55,972
Speaker 18: to run a franchise. So, yeah, it's been good.

1542
01:13:56,173 --> 01:13:58,412
Speaker 2: So what basically works as Rudy is you you do

1543
01:13:58,732 --> 01:14:01,012
Speaker 2: all the content and that goes out and the people

1544
01:14:01,093 --> 01:14:04,053
Speaker 2: the franchises sell the ads in their local area. Is

1545
01:14:04,093 --> 01:14:04,412
Speaker 2: that great?

1546
01:14:05,133 --> 01:14:08,412
Speaker 18: They sell the ads and they do the distribution and

1547
01:14:08,572 --> 01:14:10,333
Speaker 18: the rest we can. We can print for them, We

1548
01:14:10,372 --> 01:14:12,692
Speaker 18: can do layouts for them, we can design ads for them.

1549
01:14:12,812 --> 01:14:15,452
Speaker 18: Everything is done just delivery and printing.

1550
01:14:15,652 --> 01:14:17,692
Speaker 2: Is would the Coffee News ever go political?

1551
01:14:19,253 --> 01:14:22,932
Speaker 18: No, to be honest, like personally, there are franchisees who

1552
01:14:23,013 --> 01:14:25,812
Speaker 18: have political ads in there. I don't. I just don't

1553
01:14:25,853 --> 01:14:28,492
Speaker 18: want to affiliate with anybody. It just alienates to have

1554
01:14:28,572 --> 01:14:30,852
Speaker 18: the country. So I'm just I'm happy not to take

1555
01:14:30,893 --> 01:14:32,772
Speaker 18: that money and just keep it. Yeah, keep it authentic.

1556
01:14:33,053 --> 01:14:35,293
Speaker 2: So there's a comedy part of the comedy us. Is

1557
01:14:35,333 --> 01:14:37,253
Speaker 2: it called the Lighter Side? Is that what it's called?

1558
01:14:37,372 --> 01:14:41,012
Speaker 2: Or yeah, yep, yeah. So what what's the last joke

1559
01:14:41,053 --> 01:14:43,133
Speaker 2: that you wrote for Roady?

1560
01:14:43,213 --> 01:14:43,372
Speaker 18: Can you?

1561
01:14:43,452 --> 01:14:44,132
Speaker 2: Can you remember?

1562
01:14:45,492 --> 01:14:48,492
Speaker 18: I think we're due to write some but one one

1563
01:14:48,652 --> 01:14:51,773
Speaker 18: that top of my list is what does Jeff Bezos

1564
01:14:52,333 --> 01:14:54,012
Speaker 18: do every night before bed?

1565
01:14:54,853 --> 01:14:56,973
Speaker 2: What does Jeff Bezos to every night?

1566
01:14:59,692 --> 01:15:00,333
Speaker 18: Pajamason?

1567
01:15:02,213 --> 01:15:05,173
Speaker 16: Again, he won, He puts his pajamason.

1568
01:15:06,293 --> 01:15:11,613
Speaker 3: He puts his pajamas on like Amazon. Amazon.

1569
01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:14,972
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I was too dumb for that one.

1570
01:15:16,133 --> 01:15:16,812
Speaker 2: I was too dumb.

1571
01:15:18,253 --> 01:15:19,732
Speaker 3: Is good And you wrote that yourself.

1572
01:15:20,812 --> 01:15:21,812
Speaker 19: No, no, I.

1573
01:15:23,612 --> 01:15:26,293
Speaker 18: Saw the jokes like honestly, but I'm just like every

1574
01:15:26,372 --> 01:15:28,333
Speaker 18: time I write it more or take him over like

1575
01:15:28,492 --> 01:15:30,333
Speaker 18: a copy and paste of I just laugh and I

1576
01:15:30,492 --> 01:15:30,972
Speaker 18: laugh my head.

1577
01:15:31,333 --> 01:15:34,333
Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you so much for talking to us, Rudy.

1578
01:15:34,572 --> 01:15:35,052
Speaker 2: What a good.

1579
01:15:36,732 --> 01:15:40,013
Speaker 3: That is actually really clever. I'm gonna use that one.

1580
01:15:41,612 --> 01:15:45,812
Speaker 2: It's so long, so lightly it's the light of sight. Yeah,

1581
01:15:46,452 --> 01:15:50,333
Speaker 2: it's fantastic, cool cool news took zi'd be to start

1582
01:15:50,732 --> 01:15:54,772
Speaker 2: promoting us and ads and coffine news up and down

1583
01:15:54,812 --> 01:15:57,253
Speaker 2: the country. Yeah, just blanket, let's buy an ad for

1584
01:15:57,692 --> 01:15:59,972
Speaker 2: ment and Tyler afternoons and every coffin news in the company.

1585
01:16:00,093 --> 01:16:03,492
Speaker 3: Okay, country, let's start our own franchise. Rudy's looking for people.

1586
01:16:03,293 --> 01:16:05,412
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna gonna I'm just gonna sign up and

1587
01:16:05,652 --> 01:16:08,492
Speaker 2: make them pay. Rudy. If you're still listening, just put

1588
01:16:08,572 --> 01:16:09,492
Speaker 2: us an ad and everyone.

1589
01:16:09,612 --> 01:16:12,372
Speaker 3: Money's coming your way right, New sport and weather coming up.

1590
01:16:12,772 --> 01:16:13,372
Speaker 3: Stay tuned.

1591
01:16:15,412 --> 01:16:19,612
Speaker 1: Your new home are insateful and entertaining. Talk It's Matt

1592
01:16:19,652 --> 01:16:23,532
Speaker 1: Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Savvy.

1593
01:16:24,372 --> 01:16:27,093
Speaker 3: Very good Afternoons. You're welcome back into the show. Really

1594
01:16:27,133 --> 01:16:29,293
Speaker 3: good of your company. As always, there is going to

1595
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:32,813
Speaker 3: be a good discussion as looking goods. The new Secrets

1596
01:16:32,853 --> 01:16:35,253
Speaker 3: is staying a yet at work, So radio host Sam

1597
01:16:35,333 --> 01:16:38,772
Speaker 3: Wallace works for this company, he certainly thinks so. He

1598
01:16:38,933 --> 01:16:41,013
Speaker 3: recently had He told this to Liam Dan. You can

1599
01:16:41,093 --> 01:16:42,892
Speaker 3: read about it in the New Zealand Herald. He recently

1600
01:16:42,933 --> 01:16:45,852
Speaker 3: had a hair transplant, joking that it's a career move

1601
01:16:45,973 --> 01:16:50,492
Speaker 3: to keep himself relevance. But how much does appearance really matter?

1602
01:16:50,492 --> 01:16:52,012
Speaker 3: When it comes to success on the job.

1603
01:16:52,452 --> 01:16:54,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that he thought he needed to have

1604
01:16:55,013 --> 01:16:57,053
Speaker 2: hair plugs to stay relevant. I mean, he's a good

1605
01:16:57,053 --> 01:16:58,852
Speaker 2: looking chap. I think he could get away with being

1606
01:16:59,853 --> 01:17:01,572
Speaker 2: completely bored on the I don't think. I mean, I

1607
01:17:01,652 --> 01:17:03,612
Speaker 2: know lots of people that are look fantastic balled and

1608
01:17:03,893 --> 01:17:06,652
Speaker 2: are still relevant. But I guess how important is it

1609
01:17:06,732 --> 01:17:08,213
Speaker 2: how you look at work and how much would you

1610
01:17:08,253 --> 01:17:11,213
Speaker 2: spend on it? It really is the question there. I mean,

1611
01:17:11,253 --> 01:17:13,492
Speaker 2: should you get tax breaks for what you spend on

1612
01:17:13,532 --> 01:17:14,492
Speaker 2: your appearance into work?

1613
01:17:14,973 --> 01:17:15,133
Speaker 12: You know?

1614
01:17:15,253 --> 01:17:17,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose it depends on the job.

1615
01:17:17,412 --> 01:17:17,572
Speaker 2: Right.

1616
01:17:17,853 --> 01:17:20,532
Speaker 3: You could argue a lawyer maybe might get a bit

1617
01:17:20,572 --> 01:17:22,972
Speaker 3: of a tax break or something from the law firm

1618
01:17:23,053 --> 01:17:25,173
Speaker 3: to say you can have so many suits a year.

1619
01:17:25,452 --> 01:17:27,293
Speaker 3: I'm talking about from the male perspective here, but you're

1620
01:17:27,372 --> 01:17:28,412
Speaker 3: right from the female.

1621
01:17:28,053 --> 01:17:30,372
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you if you're on it, if

1622
01:17:30,412 --> 01:17:32,213
Speaker 2: you work for say TV and Z or something, and

1623
01:17:32,293 --> 01:17:34,652
Speaker 2: you're on camera right, then their lib will likely to

1624
01:17:34,973 --> 01:17:38,972
Speaker 2: provide you're with the clothes you need to be on television, right. Yes,

1625
01:17:40,293 --> 01:17:43,173
Speaker 2: But what I'm talking about is like if you work

1626
01:17:43,213 --> 01:17:46,532
Speaker 2: as in a professional industry, is it like not a

1627
01:17:46,612 --> 01:17:50,053
Speaker 2: professional like say, let's take for a lawyer example, you

1628
01:17:50,253 --> 01:17:51,852
Speaker 2: have to turn up in a suit or else people

1629
01:17:51,853 --> 01:17:53,253
Speaker 2: are probably going to go I don't want to spend

1630
01:17:53,293 --> 01:17:56,173
Speaker 2: my money with this person, right, Yeah, So that is

1631
01:17:56,213 --> 01:17:58,333
Speaker 2: that an expense for your business?

1632
01:17:58,732 --> 01:18:00,412
Speaker 3: I suppose it would be. I mean, if you're turned

1633
01:18:00,452 --> 01:18:02,532
Speaker 3: up and your lawyer was wearing board yawds. Yeah, but

1634
01:18:02,612 --> 01:18:05,213
Speaker 3: then probably but when did that end? If you if

1635
01:18:05,253 --> 01:18:07,013
Speaker 3: you then go down to Sam Wallace, he's saying that

1636
01:18:07,173 --> 01:18:08,253
Speaker 3: for his business he needs to have.

1637
01:18:09,812 --> 01:18:13,173
Speaker 2: To stay relevant going forward. Yeah, I don't know. Like

1638
01:18:15,732 --> 01:18:17,452
Speaker 2: I mean, Tyler, As I said before, I'm impressed with

1639
01:18:17,452 --> 01:18:19,293
Speaker 2: how little effort you put in, and I think that

1640
01:18:19,452 --> 01:18:21,572
Speaker 2: suggests the certain amount of confidence in yourself that you

1641
01:18:21,652 --> 01:18:23,492
Speaker 2: think that you can turn up wearing. Is that a

1642
01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:24,173
Speaker 2: pajama top?

1643
01:18:24,652 --> 01:18:24,933
Speaker 9: That is?

1644
01:18:25,253 --> 01:18:27,412
Speaker 3: It's really comfy. I think it's some sort of flannel.

1645
01:18:27,452 --> 01:18:30,772
Speaker 3: It's really nice trying to wear it. I think my

1646
01:18:30,933 --> 01:18:33,412
Speaker 3: standards ectually, mate, to be fair, when I first started,

1647
01:18:33,532 --> 01:18:35,772
Speaker 3: I thought I put my biz foot forward. You might

1648
01:18:35,853 --> 01:18:38,372
Speaker 3: not have seen it, but you know, I really I've

1649
01:18:38,372 --> 01:18:41,893
Speaker 3: got some new pants from Connor twenty six months just

1650
01:18:41,933 --> 01:18:43,852
Speaker 3: for you, mate, and I had some nice shits going on.

1651
01:18:43,973 --> 01:18:47,133
Speaker 3: But then slowly, I've let myself, you know, start to

1652
01:18:47,173 --> 01:18:48,173
Speaker 3: get a bit more disheveled.

1653
01:18:48,532 --> 01:18:51,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I think there might be a

1654
01:18:51,053 --> 01:18:54,892
Speaker 2: wider conversation around how much time you should spend getting

1655
01:18:55,053 --> 01:18:57,692
Speaker 2: ready for work, how important that is, how you look

1656
01:18:57,732 --> 01:19:00,173
Speaker 2: at work. Can you get away with spending less time

1657
01:19:01,412 --> 01:19:03,933
Speaker 2: and focusing more of that energy on just your productivity?

1658
01:19:04,253 --> 01:19:05,532
Speaker 2: So if you have someone that's spending an hour and

1659
01:19:05,532 --> 01:19:07,692
Speaker 2: a half getting ready in the morning to go to work,

1660
01:19:08,412 --> 01:19:10,532
Speaker 2: could argue from their point of view that that's money

1661
01:19:10,532 --> 01:19:12,253
Speaker 2: they should they should be paid for that time because

1662
01:19:12,293 --> 01:19:14,852
Speaker 2: they need to get ready, And from an employer's point

1663
01:19:14,853 --> 01:19:17,372
Speaker 2: of view, you might say, well, I don't really care

1664
01:19:17,412 --> 01:19:18,692
Speaker 2: what you look like as long as you turn up

1665
01:19:18,692 --> 01:19:21,532
Speaker 2: and get the job done. Yeah. Yeah, But it's different

1666
01:19:21,572 --> 01:19:25,892
Speaker 2: for males than females, isn't it, Because I think on average,

1667
01:19:26,013 --> 01:19:30,452
Speaker 2: across the board, females would spend more time getting ready

1668
01:19:30,492 --> 01:19:32,652
Speaker 2: for work than males would. Yep, I mean we just

1669
01:19:32,692 --> 01:19:34,412
Speaker 2: have on the same I mean, for me, I just

1670
01:19:34,452 --> 01:19:36,812
Speaker 2: have on the same stuff. Just het out the door.

1671
01:19:36,853 --> 01:19:41,412
Speaker 2: I've noticed that, you know, scrape a comb across my head,

1672
01:19:41,452 --> 01:19:42,652
Speaker 2: maybe brush my teeth. Yeah.

1673
01:19:43,093 --> 01:19:44,532
Speaker 3: Can I just say, though, mate, I mean, when you

1674
01:19:44,612 --> 01:19:47,452
Speaker 3: first started this, and you know, you'll remember that you

1675
01:19:47,652 --> 01:19:50,572
Speaker 3: had some jandles on, your had your bodies that you

1676
01:19:50,652 --> 01:19:51,932
Speaker 3: came in with just to tea.

1677
01:19:52,093 --> 01:19:54,013
Speaker 2: And now look at you. You've got a beautiful shirt on.

1678
01:19:54,412 --> 01:19:57,053
Speaker 3: You've got some brand spanking uchinos by the looks of it,

1679
01:19:57,692 --> 01:19:58,452
Speaker 3: some nice shoes.

1680
01:19:59,732 --> 01:20:01,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you've gone the other way. There's nothing

1681
01:20:01,933 --> 01:20:03,133
Speaker 2: to do with the show though, I mean there is

1682
01:20:03,133 --> 01:20:03,772
Speaker 2: a radio show.

1683
01:20:04,812 --> 01:20:05,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need to look.

1684
01:20:05,853 --> 01:20:07,452
Speaker 2: It just depends how I feel on any given day.

1685
01:20:07,933 --> 01:20:09,333
Speaker 2: And I tell you what, as it comes into the

1686
01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:12,412
Speaker 2: summer months, you'll be seeing the flip flops returning in

1687
01:20:12,492 --> 01:20:14,253
Speaker 2: the board shows. I look forward to that very much.

1688
01:20:14,333 --> 01:20:14,932
Speaker 2: But what do you say?

1689
01:20:14,973 --> 01:20:17,412
Speaker 3: I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty and no doubt about it,

1690
01:20:17,452 --> 01:20:20,293
Speaker 3: as you say, mate, For women out there, I think

1691
01:20:20,372 --> 01:20:22,293
Speaker 3: not only does it take him longer, but a lot

1692
01:20:22,333 --> 01:20:24,532
Speaker 3: more expensive. You know, if they're buying all the products

1693
01:20:24,572 --> 01:20:27,253
Speaker 3: that they feel that they may need to put on

1694
01:20:27,692 --> 01:20:29,612
Speaker 3: and to wear before they turn up to the office,

1695
01:20:29,612 --> 01:20:32,372
Speaker 3: because they that is somehow expected of them.

1696
01:20:32,532 --> 01:20:34,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he makes you joking the story, doesn't he

1697
01:20:34,572 --> 01:20:37,892
Speaker 2: that his hair plugs should be a text right off

1698
01:20:37,933 --> 01:20:40,173
Speaker 2: because he needs them? For his work to stay relevant. Yeah,

1699
01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:42,053
Speaker 2: was it really a joke?

1700
01:20:42,093 --> 01:20:44,532
Speaker 3: Though? I think he wants their text right off.

1701
01:20:45,053 --> 01:20:47,732
Speaker 2: I don't know imagine the IOD would have some words

1702
01:20:47,772 --> 01:20:50,293
Speaker 2: to say about this. I think the firm I work

1703
01:20:50,372 --> 01:20:52,972
Speaker 2: show should subidize subsidize my trackies and ugg boots.

1704
01:20:53,772 --> 01:20:56,812
Speaker 3: It's from Mary absolutely. What do you say though, I

1705
01:20:56,893 --> 01:21:00,012
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. How much does appearance matter

1706
01:21:00,452 --> 01:21:04,333
Speaker 3: the in your workplace? And should it be subsidized?

1707
01:21:04,812 --> 01:21:07,612
Speaker 2: It matters a lot? Never forget image is critical.

1708
01:21:08,133 --> 01:21:11,612
Speaker 3: The Texter yeah nicely put it as eleven past three

1709
01:21:12,293 --> 01:21:15,492
Speaker 3: US talks. Very good afternoon to you. So we are

1710
01:21:15,612 --> 01:21:18,492
Speaker 3: talking about an article where Sam Wallace had a chat

1711
01:21:18,532 --> 01:21:20,652
Speaker 3: to Liam Dan and he mentioned he recently had a

1712
01:21:20,732 --> 01:21:23,452
Speaker 3: here transplant because it's a career move to keep himself relevant.

1713
01:21:24,452 --> 01:21:29,612
Speaker 3: But should those should looking good be a legitimate business expense?

1714
01:21:30,013 --> 01:21:31,093
Speaker 2: He had a here transplant?

1715
01:21:31,732 --> 01:21:31,892
Speaker 5: Was that.

1716
01:21:33,492 --> 01:21:34,013
Speaker 2: Noise? Yeah?

1717
01:21:34,093 --> 01:21:36,013
Speaker 3: Recently had a full noise here transplant.

1718
01:21:36,093 --> 01:21:38,772
Speaker 2: So transplanted from a different part of his body or

1719
01:21:38,853 --> 01:21:41,093
Speaker 2: from from a it's a comdport for.

1720
01:21:41,093 --> 01:21:44,333
Speaker 3: Another woman, must be from another here? Is that synthetic?

1721
01:21:44,532 --> 01:21:46,053
Speaker 2: Is it a transplant? Is that the word? I'm just

1722
01:21:46,133 --> 01:21:47,652
Speaker 2: sorry I should I should have this in front of me.

1723
01:21:47,732 --> 01:21:48,213
Speaker 2: I mean it is.

1724
01:21:48,333 --> 01:21:50,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a mode of language.

1725
01:21:50,053 --> 01:21:50,612
Speaker 2: A transplant.

1726
01:21:50,652 --> 01:21:52,612
Speaker 3: You know, when we think of transplant, that means taking

1727
01:21:52,692 --> 01:21:56,732
Speaker 3: up from one thing and and literally transplanting it into another. Yeah.

1728
01:21:57,492 --> 01:21:59,412
Speaker 2: Where else? This is probably a terrible question. But where

1729
01:21:59,452 --> 01:22:00,452
Speaker 2: else in your body has.

1730
01:22:01,372 --> 01:22:03,452
Speaker 3: The correct type of hair to put on your There's

1731
01:22:03,492 --> 01:22:06,253
Speaker 3: not too many, not too many places, oh, one hundred

1732
01:22:06,333 --> 01:22:07,333
Speaker 3: eighty and eighty.

1733
01:22:07,652 --> 01:22:08,532
Speaker 2: Also, do you have.

1734
01:22:10,053 --> 01:22:12,652
Speaker 3: A dress code in your workplace? And it might not

1735
01:22:12,772 --> 01:22:14,692
Speaker 3: be an official dress code, but you feel, well you

1736
01:22:14,812 --> 01:22:17,812
Speaker 3: need to look a certain way or else the boss

1737
01:22:17,893 --> 01:22:18,652
Speaker 3: is going to have a word with you.

1738
01:22:18,893 --> 01:22:21,612
Speaker 2: Well, it's about in a lot of workplaces, it's about trust, right,

1739
01:22:21,652 --> 01:22:24,452
Speaker 2: and credibility. So if you're going to spend a lot

1740
01:22:24,492 --> 01:22:28,532
Speaker 2: of money with someone, then generally speaking, what you want

1741
01:22:28,692 --> 01:22:33,333
Speaker 2: them to turn up in a certain level of dress. Right.

1742
01:22:34,452 --> 01:22:37,933
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to think of, you know, like

1743
01:22:38,053 --> 01:22:39,892
Speaker 2: say a doctor. I'm not sure if this is the case.

1744
01:22:39,933 --> 01:22:43,412
Speaker 2: I mean, if the doctor's got the doctor's coat on,

1745
01:22:43,692 --> 01:22:45,412
Speaker 2: the doctors still wear doctor's coats, I don't think so.

1746
01:22:45,532 --> 01:22:48,052
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I'll trust them though, but I don't.

1747
01:22:47,853 --> 01:22:49,572
Speaker 2: Think I personally don't think. Now I think about a doctor,

1748
01:22:49,572 --> 01:22:51,612
Speaker 2: I don't personally do not think that I would care

1749
01:22:51,652 --> 01:22:53,013
Speaker 2: if I turned up and the doctor was just in

1750
01:22:53,412 --> 01:22:56,253
Speaker 2: shorts and a T shirt. Yeah. But a lawyer, I

1751
01:22:56,333 --> 01:22:59,012
Speaker 2: think I'd want my lawyer to be wearing a suit. Yeah.

1752
01:22:59,293 --> 01:23:01,492
Speaker 3: I mean it goes both ways. I think about out

1753
01:23:01,532 --> 01:23:03,892
Speaker 3: there in the newsroom, and there's some young journals out there,

1754
01:23:04,013 --> 01:23:06,173
Speaker 3: and you see some of the young guys who have

1755
01:23:06,293 --> 01:23:08,093
Speaker 3: just started. They come in and they've got the full

1756
01:23:08,093 --> 01:23:10,612
Speaker 3: blow and suit. Yeah, And part of me thinks, you're over,

1757
01:23:10,772 --> 01:23:12,892
Speaker 3: dress mate. You don't need to go full noise.

1758
01:23:13,772 --> 01:23:14,173
Speaker 2: You haven't.

1759
01:23:14,213 --> 01:23:16,372
Speaker 3: You haven't earned the competence level yet to be taken

1760
01:23:16,452 --> 01:23:19,213
Speaker 3: seriously in that full suit. But some people might look

1761
01:23:19,213 --> 01:23:21,852
Speaker 3: at that and say that's a that's a professional journalist.

1762
01:23:22,532 --> 01:23:24,612
Speaker 2: Hi, guys. If you choose to spend one point five

1763
01:23:24,652 --> 01:23:26,772
Speaker 2: hours getting ready for work, that's your choice. I sit

1764
01:23:26,853 --> 01:23:28,572
Speaker 2: in traffic for one point four hours per day just

1765
01:23:28,652 --> 01:23:30,612
Speaker 2: to drive to work. Should my boss pay for this?

1766
01:23:31,213 --> 01:23:32,293
Speaker 2: I mean that's an interesting one.

1767
01:23:32,213 --> 01:23:32,452
Speaker 14: Isn't it.

1768
01:23:32,772 --> 01:23:33,572
Speaker 3: The old commute pay?

1769
01:23:33,933 --> 01:23:35,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because if you're a truck driver, they count how

1770
01:23:36,013 --> 01:23:38,612
Speaker 2: long you are driving to get to work and how

1771
01:23:38,692 --> 01:23:41,652
Speaker 2: long you can work, how long you shift can be? Yeah, yeah,

1772
01:23:41,772 --> 01:23:47,572
Speaker 2: it's an interesting one. This person says. Guys, I don't

1773
01:23:47,612 --> 01:23:50,692
Speaker 2: see having here is staying relevant. Strange way to think.

1774
01:23:50,812 --> 01:23:53,053
Speaker 2: Just need to suck it up and get on with it. Craig. Yeah,

1775
01:23:53,053 --> 01:23:55,213
Speaker 2: I wonder, like I was just saying to you Tyer

1776
01:23:55,253 --> 01:23:58,213
Speaker 2: in the ad break, I wonder like if i went baled,

1777
01:23:58,213 --> 01:24:00,572
Speaker 2: would I lose my job because I'm a radio host

1778
01:24:00,692 --> 01:24:01,333
Speaker 2: like Sam Wallace.

1779
01:24:01,772 --> 01:24:03,852
Speaker 3: So I don't think I would. No, I don't think

1780
01:24:03,893 --> 01:24:06,053
Speaker 3: you would. I mean you look very different. I've got

1781
01:24:06,093 --> 01:24:06,812
Speaker 3: to say, mate.

1782
01:24:06,772 --> 01:24:12,372
Speaker 2: I think I'd look great. Paul, welcome the show. How

1783
01:24:12,412 --> 01:24:13,732
Speaker 2: are you very good?

1784
01:24:13,933 --> 01:24:14,053
Speaker 9: Now?

1785
01:24:14,093 --> 01:24:15,733
Speaker 3: You want to have a chat about heat transplants.

1786
01:24:16,973 --> 01:24:20,093
Speaker 11: Yeah, so, guys, it's not the areas that you're thinking

1787
01:24:20,093 --> 01:24:24,612
Speaker 11: about where they get the hair from. They remove it

1788
01:24:24,652 --> 01:24:28,532
Speaker 11: from the back of your own head. So I'm aware

1789
01:24:28,532 --> 01:24:31,372
Speaker 11: of someone that I know really well has had it done.

1790
01:24:32,372 --> 01:24:36,612
Speaker 11: It's an incredibly painful experience. But they basically removed thousands

1791
01:24:36,692 --> 01:24:40,053
Speaker 11: of hair polloicles from the area of your head where

1792
01:24:40,093 --> 01:24:45,532
Speaker 11: you have good growth, and they then replant those into

1793
01:24:45,612 --> 01:24:48,492
Speaker 11: your scalp in the areas that you want move to

1794
01:24:48,612 --> 01:24:53,773
Speaker 11: regrow hair. And what will happen over time is those

1795
01:24:53,853 --> 01:24:57,133
Speaker 11: replanted hairs will fall out and new ones will start

1796
01:24:57,213 --> 01:24:59,973
Speaker 11: to grow in place of those as part of the

1797
01:25:00,013 --> 01:25:05,093
Speaker 11: normal process that here goes through. So and also just

1798
01:25:05,173 --> 01:25:08,333
Speaker 11: the reason for doing it. There are lots of people

1799
01:25:08,412 --> 01:25:13,132
Speaker 11: that maybe have public roles or exposure where their appearance

1800
01:25:13,173 --> 01:25:15,133
Speaker 11: is important to them. But I guess it's the same

1801
01:25:15,213 --> 01:25:19,852
Speaker 11: as you know, someone getting their eyebrows plucked, or you know,

1802
01:25:20,053 --> 01:25:23,852
Speaker 11: the procedures that are done on to make people look

1803
01:25:24,812 --> 01:25:27,333
Speaker 11: younger and all that sort of stuff. It's really purely

1804
01:25:27,412 --> 01:25:31,132
Speaker 11: down to the person themselves and what they think of themselves.

1805
01:25:31,173 --> 01:25:35,372
Speaker 11: You're right, there's some very distinguished balled people. I'm heading

1806
01:25:35,452 --> 01:25:39,612
Speaker 11: that way myself, so you know. But for some people

1807
01:25:39,772 --> 01:25:42,093
Speaker 11: it's something that's important and them the specially, I guess,

1808
01:25:42,133 --> 01:25:45,572
Speaker 11: specially if you're a lot younger as well. So, but yeah,

1809
01:25:45,692 --> 01:25:50,772
Speaker 11: it's a it's a it's a very painful and complex process,

1810
01:25:50,973 --> 01:25:53,933
Speaker 11: and you know, I had a lot of support and

1811
01:25:53,973 --> 01:25:56,892
Speaker 11: sympathy for people going through it because it's something they

1812
01:25:56,933 --> 01:26:00,213
Speaker 11: want to do. Then it's not it's not a pleasant

1813
01:26:00,253 --> 01:26:00,893
Speaker 11: thing to do.

1814
01:26:01,293 --> 01:26:05,133
Speaker 2: It's not cheap either. I believe it's over twenty thousand

1815
01:26:05,133 --> 01:26:06,772
Speaker 2: dollars to get it done. Hey, so the bit at

1816
01:26:06,812 --> 01:26:09,213
Speaker 2: the back pall so if so, I'm assuming they get

1817
01:26:09,253 --> 01:26:11,452
Speaker 2: the hair from around the back where male pad and

1818
01:26:11,812 --> 01:26:15,133
Speaker 2: bordness doesn't really hurt. So that just becomes a little

1819
01:26:15,133 --> 01:26:15,852
Speaker 2: bit thinner, does it.

1820
01:26:17,133 --> 01:26:20,053
Speaker 11: It does, and it will they will meet most of

1821
01:26:20,093 --> 01:26:23,213
Speaker 11: the follicles will actually, well some of them will come

1822
01:26:23,293 --> 01:26:29,093
Speaker 11: back in that place anyway. So yeah, it's you'll be

1823
01:26:29,173 --> 01:26:32,173
Speaker 11: surprised how many hundreds of albums of hair follicles you've

1824
01:26:32,173 --> 01:26:36,133
Speaker 11: actually got in your head, so you don't you will

1825
01:26:36,213 --> 01:26:39,213
Speaker 11: not notice the difference from where they remove it. And

1826
01:26:39,293 --> 01:26:43,133
Speaker 11: I've actually seen the progress with us and I'm blown away.

1827
01:26:43,173 --> 01:26:44,532
Speaker 11: Actually it's pretty impressive.

1828
01:26:44,772 --> 01:26:45,372
Speaker 2: And how long.

1829
01:26:48,853 --> 01:26:52,532
Speaker 11: You're going to have some I guess we get much older,

1830
01:26:52,612 --> 01:26:53,972
Speaker 11: we will lose hair naturally.

1831
01:26:54,372 --> 01:26:54,692
Speaker 5: It will.

1832
01:26:55,093 --> 01:26:57,692
Speaker 11: It will prolong that area where they want the hair

1833
01:26:57,772 --> 01:27:00,652
Speaker 11: to grow for a significant period of time. There are

1834
01:27:00,692 --> 01:27:02,532
Speaker 11: things that they need to do to obviously make sure

1835
01:27:02,572 --> 01:27:05,213
Speaker 11: that the health of their their hair and their scalp

1836
01:27:05,253 --> 01:27:07,692
Speaker 11: and the follicles is probably more important than what we

1837
01:27:07,772 --> 01:27:11,293
Speaker 11: look after, probably just samper regularly, and that's that they do.

1838
01:27:11,532 --> 01:27:15,852
Speaker 11: They do more things retaining the health of those sollicles.

1839
01:27:15,933 --> 01:27:21,213
Speaker 11: But it's a technology that has changed massively in the

1840
01:27:21,333 --> 01:27:24,612
Speaker 11: last twenty years to the point where I've think, you know,

1841
01:27:24,732 --> 01:27:27,852
Speaker 11: as part of the process they so we're spoke from

1842
01:27:27,893 --> 01:27:30,692
Speaker 11: people that he has done. I was absolutely blown away

1843
01:27:30,772 --> 01:27:33,692
Speaker 11: with what a difference it can make. So, yeah, that's

1844
01:27:33,732 --> 01:27:36,412
Speaker 11: a that's a very viable thing and many, many people

1845
01:27:36,412 --> 01:27:37,372
Speaker 11: around the world are doing it.

1846
01:27:38,053 --> 01:27:41,253
Speaker 2: So, I mean, people want to do that. I'm absolutely

1847
01:27:43,093 --> 01:27:44,812
Speaker 2: no judgment on them, because you know, if it's a

1848
01:27:44,853 --> 01:27:47,973
Speaker 2: confidence thing, it's something that someone feels they need to do,

1849
01:27:48,133 --> 01:27:52,572
Speaker 2: then then then absolutely good on them. It's interesting though,

1850
01:27:52,652 --> 01:27:54,772
Speaker 2: if you thought, if you thought it was a necessity

1851
01:27:54,853 --> 01:27:58,572
Speaker 2: for your career, that your career would come crashing down

1852
01:27:59,133 --> 01:28:02,652
Speaker 2: if you didn't have here, that's an interesting one. But

1853
01:28:02,692 --> 01:28:05,572
Speaker 2: I guess in this case, Sam, he's he's he's on

1854
01:28:05,692 --> 01:28:08,012
Speaker 2: the radio, he's in the public eye, he's on camera.

1855
01:28:08,572 --> 01:28:10,492
Speaker 2: Then maybe he thinks that that's important.

1856
01:28:11,133 --> 01:28:18,732
Speaker 11: But still, what's that Jens relatively young st than me.

1857
01:28:18,893 --> 01:28:21,093
Speaker 2: I think he's like he's getting nine, he's forty five.

1858
01:28:22,333 --> 01:28:23,693
Speaker 11: Okay, that's Jakey.

1859
01:28:25,173 --> 01:28:28,532
Speaker 2: But I mean, I just I would just I think

1860
01:28:28,572 --> 01:28:31,852
Speaker 2: a lot of people would think. And maybe this is

1861
01:28:31,893 --> 01:28:34,372
Speaker 2: easy for me to say because I still have here,

1862
01:28:34,452 --> 01:28:38,812
Speaker 2: but I think maybe people would think they would get

1863
01:28:38,853 --> 01:28:41,052
Speaker 2: judged more by not having here than they actually would.

1864
01:28:41,053 --> 01:28:42,492
Speaker 2: It's a very it's a very odd thing, isn't it

1865
01:28:42,572 --> 01:28:46,133
Speaker 2: that we that we feel like there's a problem in

1866
01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:48,892
Speaker 2: losing here when it's a thing that happens to basically

1867
01:28:49,053 --> 01:28:52,093
Speaker 2: nearly every male at some point in their life, and

1868
01:28:52,452 --> 01:28:55,173
Speaker 2: some people don't. People that lose their hair have more

1869
01:28:55,213 --> 01:28:58,173
Speaker 2: test on testosterone than the people that keep their hair

1870
01:28:58,213 --> 01:28:58,372
Speaker 2: for the.

1871
01:28:58,572 --> 01:29:00,293
Speaker 11: Lot, I believe.

1872
01:29:00,372 --> 01:29:00,412
Speaker 14: So.

1873
01:29:00,853 --> 01:29:02,452
Speaker 11: The interesting thing though, that you ever look at the

1874
01:29:02,492 --> 01:29:06,053
Speaker 11: people that advertise the hair that procedure, most a lot

1875
01:29:06,093 --> 01:29:08,772
Speaker 11: of them are sports people and very hope, hope file

1876
01:29:08,893 --> 01:29:13,133
Speaker 11: yeah people. And that's probably because they are on the

1877
01:29:13,213 --> 01:29:16,732
Speaker 11: camera and they've been interviewed, and maybe it's just something

1878
01:29:16,812 --> 01:29:19,093
Speaker 11: so consously for them, they feel more comfortable about it.

1879
01:29:20,053 --> 01:29:22,732
Speaker 11: And of course, when they're in their prime, they generally

1880
01:29:23,492 --> 01:29:27,093
Speaker 11: maybe late twenties, thirties or something like that. So for

1881
01:29:27,213 --> 01:29:30,053
Speaker 11: someone of that age, I guess, yeah, their appearance and

1882
01:29:30,133 --> 01:29:32,492
Speaker 11: appeal to the opposite sex may be a bit more

1883
01:29:32,652 --> 01:29:35,053
Speaker 11: of a priority than than enough old guys. And we

1884
01:29:35,213 --> 01:29:38,852
Speaker 11: just accept that. Coming out and I'll rock a new

1885
01:29:38,893 --> 01:29:40,333
Speaker 11: hairstyle sometimes.

1886
01:29:40,293 --> 01:29:43,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I won. If you're on the market,

1887
01:29:43,213 --> 01:29:44,772
Speaker 2: it might change things. You know, if you're a single,

1888
01:29:45,013 --> 01:29:48,372
Speaker 2: single guy, I mean, Sam, your single guy. You want

1889
01:29:48,412 --> 01:29:49,652
Speaker 2: to get out there, you want you want to have

1890
01:29:50,532 --> 01:29:52,093
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to feel like you've got

1891
01:29:52,133 --> 01:29:54,452
Speaker 2: any anything that's not going your way, so you get

1892
01:29:54,452 --> 01:29:56,213
Speaker 2: it done. Does any you know, and we see things

1893
01:29:56,293 --> 01:30:00,333
Speaker 2: on my feed you know, my my social media feeds

1894
01:30:00,412 --> 01:30:03,213
Speaker 2: or whatever with various products, does shampoos do anything? All

1895
01:30:03,253 --> 01:30:06,852
Speaker 2: these kind of things that you see all the what

1896
01:30:07,093 --> 01:30:08,133
Speaker 2: what things actually work?

1897
01:30:09,213 --> 01:30:09,372
Speaker 3: Is it.

1898
01:30:10,893 --> 01:30:13,093
Speaker 2: Only is it only the plug you know, actually going

1899
01:30:13,133 --> 01:30:15,572
Speaker 2: for the transpart and actually the physical surgery type side

1900
01:30:15,612 --> 01:30:17,293
Speaker 2: of it that actually does anything, as the rest of

1901
01:30:17,333 --> 01:30:17,933
Speaker 2: it just made up.

1902
01:30:19,532 --> 01:30:23,572
Speaker 11: I think that there are chemicals and compounds that are

1903
01:30:23,692 --> 01:30:26,612
Speaker 11: in some of those products that would definitely assist your

1904
01:30:27,213 --> 01:30:32,212
Speaker 11: or reduce the level of loss. But I wouldn't imagine

1905
01:30:32,253 --> 01:30:34,133
Speaker 11: that if you if they actually falling out or the

1906
01:30:34,173 --> 01:30:36,452
Speaker 11: flag or the dying, I don't think it pretty unhinting

1907
01:30:36,452 --> 01:30:38,612
Speaker 11: it's going to be able to recover that. That's a compound.

1908
01:30:39,253 --> 01:30:41,412
Speaker 11: It's more about actually having to have a transpart to

1909
01:30:41,492 --> 01:30:45,812
Speaker 11: have an option to potentially grout back in those places Yeah.

1910
01:30:46,213 --> 01:30:48,452
Speaker 2: Wonder if anyone wonder if anyone's ever thank you so

1911
01:30:48,572 --> 01:30:50,093
Speaker 2: much for you call Paul. I wonder if anyone has

1912
01:30:50,093 --> 01:30:52,572
Speaker 2: ever tried like you know, when you get an organ transplant,

1913
01:30:52,732 --> 01:30:56,532
Speaker 2: just to you know, someone donates their body and their

1914
01:30:56,652 --> 01:31:00,772
Speaker 2: organs and then you just scalp them and then sold

1915
01:31:00,812 --> 01:31:02,612
Speaker 2: onto someone else's head with that word, I don't know.

1916
01:31:02,692 --> 01:31:04,772
Speaker 3: I'll put it on my driver's license. If anybody wants

1917
01:31:04,812 --> 01:31:07,412
Speaker 3: it and I can't get you, You're welcome to it. Absolutely, well,

1918
01:31:07,412 --> 01:31:09,492
Speaker 3: you've got a good head of it so far. Yeah,

1919
01:31:09,692 --> 01:31:11,732
Speaker 3: can I have it when you go? Absolutely, we'll put

1920
01:31:11,732 --> 01:31:14,213
Speaker 3: you down on my donor card. Oh, one hundred eighty

1921
01:31:14,293 --> 01:31:16,572
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. We've actually had

1922
01:31:16,652 --> 01:31:19,452
Speaker 3: quite a few ticks on that after Paul's chat. Quite

1923
01:31:19,452 --> 01:31:23,012
Speaker 3: a few people are, arguably men going through the old

1924
01:31:23,093 --> 01:31:24,973
Speaker 3: hair transplants. Have you've gone through it? Love to hear

1925
01:31:24,973 --> 01:31:27,452
Speaker 3: from your one hundred and eighty ten eighty And.

1926
01:31:27,612 --> 01:31:30,972
Speaker 2: Some people are saying that if you want this, Texas says,

1927
01:31:31,013 --> 01:31:32,532
Speaker 2: if you want to see the worst dress code, then

1928
01:31:32,652 --> 01:31:35,253
Speaker 2: just look at school teachers. Shocking standard to portray the kids.

1929
01:31:35,572 --> 01:31:38,452
Speaker 2: I've never seen so many awfully dressed people. Then at school.

1930
01:31:38,812 --> 01:31:42,052
Speaker 2: These teachers are simply lazy, cheap and have no self

1931
01:31:42,093 --> 01:31:43,732
Speaker 2: respect or teachers.

1932
01:31:43,812 --> 01:31:46,213
Speaker 3: What do you say about that? I'm a stovingly lot.

1933
01:31:46,893 --> 01:31:49,372
Speaker 2: I think teachers do dress quite well at school because

1934
01:31:49,572 --> 01:31:51,692
Speaker 2: I saw a bunch of my kids teachers out at

1935
01:31:51,732 --> 01:31:53,892
Speaker 2: a bar and that was the end of the year,

1936
01:31:53,933 --> 01:31:55,812
Speaker 2: and they were all drinking, all these teachers and having

1937
01:31:55,812 --> 01:31:57,652
Speaker 2: an end of year, and I didn't recognize them for

1938
01:31:57,732 --> 01:32:00,372
Speaker 2: ages because they were in their cities. Yeah, and they

1939
01:32:00,412 --> 01:32:03,372
Speaker 2: suddenly locked about fifteen years younger and boy, they were

1940
01:32:03,372 --> 01:32:05,293
Speaker 2: getting loose. Why they love a party, teachers. One of

1941
01:32:05,372 --> 01:32:06,612
Speaker 2: them was up on the table soon.

1942
01:32:11,452 --> 01:32:15,772
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight on

1943
01:32:15,933 --> 01:32:16,612
Speaker 1: News Talk.

1944
01:32:16,492 --> 01:32:19,933
Speaker 3: ZV afternoon twenty eight past three. So should employees be

1945
01:32:20,013 --> 01:32:22,732
Speaker 3: able to claim back the cost of meeting workplace dress codes,

1946
01:32:22,853 --> 01:32:24,652
Speaker 3: especially when appearance is part of the job. Love to

1947
01:32:24,732 --> 01:32:25,293
Speaker 3: hear your thoughts.

1948
01:32:26,093 --> 01:32:29,293
Speaker 2: The sixty says, I teach in someone bilingual class, and

1949
01:32:29,372 --> 01:32:31,492
Speaker 2: we dress very well. I also have taught at schools

1950
01:32:31,532 --> 01:32:34,412
Speaker 2: where many teachers dress professionally. Yeah, I'm not sure about

1951
01:32:34,412 --> 01:32:37,452
Speaker 2: the claims that teachers dress poorly. Historically they dressed amazing

1952
01:32:37,652 --> 01:32:41,213
Speaker 2: and walk shorts and pulled up socks in the Roman

1953
01:32:41,253 --> 01:32:45,973
Speaker 2: sandals and short sleeved shirts with a tie and a

1954
01:32:46,053 --> 01:32:49,132
Speaker 2: pen in the pocket. Yeah, very well put together, Charlene.

1955
01:32:50,412 --> 01:32:51,093
Speaker 4: Hi. Hi.

1956
01:32:52,933 --> 01:32:55,133
Speaker 20: It's made me think about when I was working at

1957
01:32:55,173 --> 01:32:58,932
Speaker 20: a busy flourish in a mall and we're all quite young,

1958
01:32:59,013 --> 01:33:02,012
Speaker 20: you know, we're all young UNI students, and I would

1959
01:33:02,053 --> 01:33:05,532
Speaker 20: say quite a collectively like good lucking group that the

1960
01:33:05,732 --> 01:33:10,333
Speaker 20: bus kind of nicely them to a staff meeting and said,

1961
01:33:10,532 --> 01:33:13,253
Speaker 20: you know, could we just up the standards of that,

1962
01:33:13,452 --> 01:33:16,812
Speaker 20: maybe check a bit of lepion, put a brush through

1963
01:33:16,893 --> 01:33:19,772
Speaker 20: the hair. And I just remember looking around the group

1964
01:33:19,933 --> 01:33:24,932
Speaker 20: and we had but we did look pretty a bit rap.

1965
01:33:25,093 --> 01:33:28,652
Speaker 20: I don't know, Like I know, retail is traditionally like

1966
01:33:28,732 --> 01:33:33,173
Speaker 20: a well presented job. At florestries are really a physical job.

1967
01:33:33,812 --> 01:33:36,933
Speaker 20: Put the lifting running around, and we did like we

1968
01:33:37,013 --> 01:33:40,692
Speaker 20: had the mumbunds going on and no makeup, and I

1969
01:33:40,893 --> 01:33:42,412
Speaker 20: just we're all kind of laughed at that.

1970
01:33:43,572 --> 01:33:45,692
Speaker 2: That's a lot to ask, because yeah, I mean, last

1971
01:33:45,732 --> 01:33:48,213
Speaker 2: time I book flowers, my partner, I was marveling at

1972
01:33:48,253 --> 01:33:50,372
Speaker 2: how much work it is. Because your point at the

1973
01:33:50,372 --> 01:33:51,893
Speaker 2: flowers you want, you've got to clip them off and

1974
01:33:51,933 --> 01:33:53,692
Speaker 2: put them together, wrap them up and the thing it's

1975
01:33:53,772 --> 01:33:56,732
Speaker 2: it's quite a lot. It's it's a physical, physical job.

1976
01:33:56,893 --> 01:33:58,492
Speaker 2: So do you need lippy to do that?

1977
01:33:58,652 --> 01:34:04,572
Speaker 20: I know, well, I think you are like now owning

1978
01:34:04,652 --> 01:34:08,732
Speaker 20: a business myself, Like there is a retail like you,

1979
01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:10,933
Speaker 20: you want the customers to come and you want to

1980
01:34:10,973 --> 01:34:14,732
Speaker 20: look professional and nice like this was like Uni Dave

1981
01:34:14,933 --> 01:34:17,372
Speaker 20: and like you know, when you could pull it all

1982
01:34:17,492 --> 01:34:21,333
Speaker 20: nighter and not feel hangover to work like those kind

1983
01:34:21,412 --> 01:34:25,772
Speaker 20: of days. But I do think if you want a

1984
01:34:25,853 --> 01:34:31,772
Speaker 20: certain standard of dress, the employee really needs to employer

1985
01:34:31,893 --> 01:34:34,973
Speaker 20: needs to provide like an uniform and kind of make

1986
01:34:35,053 --> 01:34:36,293
Speaker 20: it standard for everyone.

1987
01:34:36,492 --> 01:34:39,412
Speaker 3: What about the what about for the lppy as well, Charlie?

1988
01:34:39,412 --> 01:34:41,493
Speaker 3: And that's not free, pretty expensive lippy.

1989
01:34:42,732 --> 01:34:42,772
Speaker 21: Is.

1990
01:34:43,933 --> 01:34:49,572
Speaker 20: I don't think any of us really hate it as such. No,

1991
01:34:49,732 --> 01:34:53,532
Speaker 20: I've never won luppee. I look like a clown, So yeah,

1992
01:34:53,692 --> 01:34:54,253
Speaker 20: I didn't do that.

1993
01:34:54,333 --> 01:34:58,612
Speaker 2: One was was the boss that was telling you to

1994
01:34:58,652 --> 01:35:00,772
Speaker 2: throw some luppy around? Was that a male or a

1995
01:35:00,853 --> 01:35:01,452
Speaker 2: female boss?

1996
01:35:01,612 --> 01:35:05,253
Speaker 20: Charlie a female And she was really nice about it,

1997
01:35:05,812 --> 01:35:08,253
Speaker 20: you know, And it wasn't like you have to wear

1998
01:35:08,492 --> 01:35:12,132
Speaker 20: makeup and high heels. It was like you guys, look scruffy,

1999
01:35:12,492 --> 01:35:15,253
Speaker 20: and I know you're not better. You're attractive woman, Like,

2000
01:35:15,812 --> 01:35:18,412
Speaker 20: can you just present yourself nice? So you know, and

2001
01:35:19,812 --> 01:35:21,612
Speaker 20: it was a nice way to go about it, and

2002
01:35:21,732 --> 01:35:24,412
Speaker 20: it wasn't. But you're going to get fired if you

2003
01:35:24,532 --> 01:35:26,012
Speaker 20: don't have that situation.

2004
01:35:26,612 --> 01:35:28,412
Speaker 2: Thank you, Charlene. I mean, I wonder what those rules

2005
01:35:28,452 --> 01:35:31,293
Speaker 2: are around what you can say about what people wear,

2006
01:35:31,333 --> 01:35:35,012
Speaker 2: because say you're working in a bank, you know someone

2007
01:35:35,933 --> 01:35:38,372
Speaker 2: you know, there's generally uniform in those kinds of situations

2008
01:35:38,412 --> 01:35:40,333
Speaker 2: with the front facing person. But you know, I've worked

2009
01:35:40,372 --> 01:35:44,093
Speaker 2: in behind counters before and yeah, actually no, we've been

2010
01:35:44,133 --> 01:35:46,932
Speaker 2: giving t shirts to wear behind counter. I mean I've

2011
01:35:46,973 --> 01:35:50,293
Speaker 2: been told I would look terrible by bosses before. And

2012
01:35:50,692 --> 01:35:52,852
Speaker 2: in the similar situation is the Charlene situation. When you

2013
01:35:52,933 --> 01:35:55,093
Speaker 2: turn up and you've been out late. Here's all over

2014
01:35:55,173 --> 01:35:57,173
Speaker 2: the place. Jeez, man, you've got your breakfast down in

2015
01:35:57,173 --> 01:35:57,772
Speaker 2: the front of your shirt.

2016
01:35:57,812 --> 01:35:59,452
Speaker 3: You got to tidy yourself up, mate your front of

2017
01:35:59,452 --> 01:35:59,772
Speaker 3: the house.

2018
01:35:59,853 --> 01:36:02,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think like a brewery.

2019
01:36:02,652 --> 01:36:04,972
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, but yeah, I mean in that situation

2020
01:36:05,053 --> 01:36:07,053
Speaker 3: when the boss comes to the workers and seees come on,

2021
01:36:07,293 --> 01:36:09,093
Speaker 3: you've got to pick up your game a little bit.

2022
01:36:09,093 --> 01:36:11,492
Speaker 3: You're looking a bit disheveled your front of house at

2023
01:36:11,532 --> 01:36:13,333
Speaker 3: that point. Surely is a boss you've got to say

2024
01:36:13,492 --> 01:36:15,652
Speaker 3: to help you out. I'm gonna buy you some makeup.

2025
01:36:15,692 --> 01:36:18,012
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy you some lippy. If you're a feller,

2026
01:36:18,053 --> 01:36:19,652
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you some money to go get some

2027
01:36:19,772 --> 01:36:22,732
Speaker 3: nice clothes. Surely that's the boss's responsibility. If you're going

2028
01:36:22,812 --> 01:36:25,293
Speaker 3: to go tell your workers, God, you guys are a

2029
01:36:25,333 --> 01:36:27,372
Speaker 3: scruffy lot, then you've got to front up some cash

2030
01:36:27,412 --> 01:36:28,173
Speaker 3: to get them looking good.

2031
01:36:28,412 --> 01:36:30,812
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you line up your employees against the wall

2032
01:36:30,853 --> 01:36:33,933
Speaker 2: and you end them eat a stick of lippy. So

2033
01:36:34,013 --> 01:36:36,133
Speaker 2: we're to kill you, bloody. Put some effid in. We

2034
01:36:36,253 --> 01:36:37,133
Speaker 2: know how that would go for you.

2035
01:36:37,253 --> 01:36:38,652
Speaker 3: If you've ever done that, I'd love to hear from

2036
01:36:38,692 --> 01:36:40,652
Speaker 3: your Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is it

2037
01:36:40,732 --> 01:36:43,013
Speaker 3: fear to expect workers to spend their own money to

2038
01:36:43,093 --> 01:36:46,572
Speaker 3: meet professional appearance standards? Headlines with scarlet coming.

2039
01:36:46,412 --> 01:36:51,892
Speaker 7: Up us talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis

2040
01:36:51,973 --> 01:36:54,612
Speaker 7: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. New Zealand may

2041
01:36:54,732 --> 01:36:58,892
Speaker 7: not be returning to rockstar economic growth anytime soon. Latest

2042
01:36:58,973 --> 01:37:01,852
Speaker 7: figures from stats n Z it has GDP falling zero

2043
01:37:01,973 --> 01:37:05,012
Speaker 7: point nine percent in the June quarter, and for Metrics

2044
01:37:05,093 --> 01:37:07,972
Speaker 7: chief forecaster Gareth Kinnan says we aren't seeing the high

2045
01:37:08,013 --> 01:37:11,812
Speaker 7: net migration and resulting housing demand that spurred growth in

2046
01:37:11,893 --> 01:37:15,372
Speaker 7: the past. Key details in the Tom Phillips case will

2047
01:37:15,412 --> 01:37:18,173
Speaker 7: stay suppressed, but the matter will be discussed again at

2048
01:37:18,173 --> 01:37:21,372
Speaker 7: a yet to be confirmed date. Media lawyers have been

2049
01:37:21,452 --> 01:37:25,412
Speaker 7: advocating for the right to report. Auckland police have made

2050
01:37:25,412 --> 01:37:28,293
Speaker 7: an arrest in connection with the alleged murder of courier

2051
01:37:28,372 --> 01:37:31,572
Speaker 7: driver Thue below TUV more than thirteen months ago, and

2052
01:37:31,692 --> 01:37:35,612
Speaker 7: save further arrests can't be ruled out. The large vegetation

2053
01:37:35,853 --> 01:37:39,093
Speaker 7: fire burning in Southbridge and Canterbury has been contained and

2054
01:37:39,333 --> 01:37:42,572
Speaker 7: most crews have been stood dull. Meanwhile, smoke can be

2055
01:37:42,652 --> 01:37:46,012
Speaker 7: seen coming from christ Church's porthills with one fire crew

2056
01:37:46,133 --> 01:37:50,612
Speaker 7: at the scene. Donald Trump is officially designating Antifer a

2057
01:37:50,812 --> 01:37:53,692
Speaker 7: terrorist group. The left wing group, which is short for

2058
01:37:53,772 --> 01:37:57,212
Speaker 7: Anti Fascist Action, has been described by the American president

2059
01:37:57,293 --> 01:38:02,172
Speaker 7: as a sick, dangerous left wing disaster. Government swells tourism

2060
01:38:02,253 --> 01:38:05,612
Speaker 7: and conservation spending by ninety million a year, keeps up

2061
01:38:05,652 --> 01:38:08,092
Speaker 7: to one hundred and thirty nine million for own coffers.

2062
01:38:08,492 --> 01:38:10,772
Speaker 7: More at Endzed Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eathan

2063
01:38:10,853 --> 01:38:11,492
Speaker 7: Tyler Adams.

2064
01:38:11,572 --> 01:38:15,173
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Scarlett. So, if work uniforms are covered,

2065
01:38:15,173 --> 01:38:18,732
Speaker 3: why not herecuts, makeup or even cosmetic procedures for public

2066
01:38:18,853 --> 01:38:21,612
Speaker 3: facing role. Should the employer front up for that or

2067
01:38:21,612 --> 01:38:23,492
Speaker 3: should some of those things be a bit of a

2068
01:38:23,532 --> 01:38:24,052
Speaker 3: tax break?

2069
01:38:24,412 --> 01:38:27,732
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, our contracts these days include an expectation of presentation,

2070
01:38:27,933 --> 01:38:31,093
Speaker 2: just so that the employees know from the outset what

2071
01:38:31,372 --> 01:38:34,293
Speaker 2: kind of job they're applying for and what the expectation is.

2072
01:38:34,692 --> 01:38:37,052
Speaker 2: I think if that's not laid out right from the outset,

2073
01:38:37,133 --> 01:38:39,013
Speaker 2: it's a bit more tricky. That's from carry.

2074
01:38:39,213 --> 01:38:41,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a really good point. It isn't a

2075
01:38:41,853 --> 01:38:43,973
Speaker 3: lot of contracts that there's a standard of dress that

2076
01:38:44,173 --> 01:38:47,133
Speaker 3: is expected and they layd out pretty pretty clearly, and

2077
01:38:47,173 --> 01:38:49,013
Speaker 3: if you don't meet that expectation, then they have a

2078
01:38:49,053 --> 01:38:49,892
Speaker 3: words here pretty quick.

2079
01:38:49,933 --> 01:38:52,133
Speaker 2: How's that listed? So if you're going to an event

2080
01:38:52,213 --> 01:38:57,093
Speaker 2: that might say smart casual or black tie or something, right, yeah,

2081
01:38:57,213 --> 01:38:59,812
Speaker 2: so would that be listed that there's because you can

2082
01:38:59,812 --> 01:39:02,053
Speaker 2: say there's an expectation of what you wear, right, But

2083
01:39:02,652 --> 01:39:04,253
Speaker 2: maybe it says we're a suit and then I turn

2084
01:39:04,372 --> 01:39:08,293
Speaker 2: up with just a suit jacket in my chest here

2085
01:39:08,452 --> 01:39:10,412
Speaker 2: flowing in the wind. It's a good lot in a

2086
01:39:10,492 --> 01:39:13,932
Speaker 2: Medei beautiful, Yeah, majestic. Hey, someone says, bring back the combover.

2087
01:39:14,013 --> 01:39:16,132
Speaker 2: That was a good look. Now, I bet the combover

2088
01:39:16,213 --> 01:39:18,572
Speaker 2: will come back, because every haircut comes back. The comb

2089
01:39:18,612 --> 01:39:20,093
Speaker 2: over us. There was a good lot. It was a

2090
01:39:20,133 --> 01:39:22,972
Speaker 2: good lock. Yeah, until the wind blew the sideway.

2091
01:39:23,492 --> 01:39:27,053
Speaker 3: But you know, it kind of comes in circles, doesn't haircuts.

2092
01:39:26,973 --> 01:39:30,412
Speaker 2: Right now, we're just twelve years ago, fifteen years ago,

2093
01:39:30,452 --> 01:39:33,492
Speaker 2: considered ten years ago, five years ago considered absolutely horrific.

2094
01:39:33,652 --> 01:39:35,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay, how are you?

2095
01:39:36,933 --> 01:39:37,133
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2096
01:39:37,253 --> 01:39:37,412
Speaker 3: Good?

2097
01:39:37,452 --> 01:39:37,732
Speaker 4: Thank you?

2098
01:39:38,572 --> 01:39:38,612
Speaker 14: So.

2099
01:39:38,933 --> 01:39:41,652
Speaker 3: Work presentation is it? Is it pretty important?

2100
01:39:41,652 --> 01:39:42,013
Speaker 16: Do you think?

2101
01:39:43,732 --> 01:39:48,012
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm always like myself personally,

2102
01:39:48,053 --> 01:39:50,692
Speaker 4: I'm always trying to sort of dress the part. I'm

2103
01:39:50,692 --> 01:39:54,253
Speaker 4: not dressed the part, but just anythink, especially in the

2104
01:39:54,293 --> 01:39:57,092
Speaker 4: industry I'm in like I'm in. I'm a site manager

2105
01:39:57,133 --> 01:40:00,133
Speaker 4: for a construction company. As I've worked my way up,

2106
01:40:00,173 --> 01:40:03,012
Speaker 4: I've always sort of tried to dress and just present

2107
01:40:03,093 --> 01:40:06,253
Speaker 4: myself well, especially in front of other people. You know,

2108
01:40:06,333 --> 01:40:07,893
Speaker 4: you've got a lot of people coming on site so

2109
01:40:07,973 --> 01:40:11,333
Speaker 4: you want to triss nice and a lot of guys

2110
01:40:11,372 --> 01:40:13,692
Speaker 4: on site they didn't smell the best. So I've always

2111
01:40:13,692 --> 01:40:17,572
Speaker 4: got a sort of sort of spray under you know,

2112
01:40:17,772 --> 01:40:20,612
Speaker 4: sort of in my sort of kevinet under my desk.

2113
01:40:20,732 --> 01:40:24,652
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've always tried to, you know, look my

2114
01:40:24,772 --> 01:40:27,053
Speaker 4: best and just try and present myself as recually like

2115
01:40:27,253 --> 01:40:28,532
Speaker 4: representing the company as well.

2116
01:40:29,053 --> 01:40:31,213
Speaker 2: What is that in towl to look your best? Because

2117
01:40:31,772 --> 01:40:33,492
Speaker 2: is that a do you go as far as a

2118
01:40:33,572 --> 01:40:34,972
Speaker 2: tie on on site?

2119
01:40:35,853 --> 01:40:36,293
Speaker 9: I wouldn't.

2120
01:40:36,612 --> 01:40:38,652
Speaker 4: I wouldn't go as far as a tie. I'm more

2121
01:40:38,732 --> 01:40:42,812
Speaker 4: or less like Driss sort of uh smart schedule, so

2122
01:40:43,093 --> 01:40:45,652
Speaker 4: you know, a nice shirt and a sort of like

2123
01:40:45,732 --> 01:40:48,333
Speaker 4: a jumper or a Triss press top and just some

2124
01:40:48,492 --> 01:40:55,492
Speaker 4: nice pants and tress shoes and yeah, well look it's

2125
01:40:55,532 --> 01:40:57,412
Speaker 4: probably not seen because by the time you get to work,

2126
01:40:57,412 --> 01:40:59,452
Speaker 4: you've got to put the hivers on, so no one's

2127
01:40:59,452 --> 01:41:00,253
Speaker 4: going to see it anyway.

2128
01:41:00,333 --> 01:41:04,093
Speaker 2: So yeah, you bet, I think people would to that

2129
01:41:04,412 --> 01:41:06,253
Speaker 2: people would. But do you think that you know, obviously

2130
01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:08,372
Speaker 2: you've done well and you've and you've moved up so

2131
01:41:08,412 --> 01:41:10,692
Speaker 2: you're in charge of people. Do you think that that

2132
01:41:11,013 --> 01:41:15,213
Speaker 2: that you've always made that effort to dress in to

2133
01:41:15,293 --> 01:41:18,093
Speaker 2: a higher standard has helped your career, Jane.

2134
01:41:19,772 --> 01:41:21,372
Speaker 16: I don't think it's helped my career.

2135
01:41:21,452 --> 01:41:24,133
Speaker 4: But it's just I've always sort of just tried to

2136
01:41:24,173 --> 01:41:27,812
Speaker 4: present myself well in front of people. And whether it's

2137
01:41:28,173 --> 01:41:30,692
Speaker 4: dressing or just the way I am, I think it's

2138
01:41:30,853 --> 01:41:34,052
Speaker 4: personally that comes because, let's be honest, people get judged

2139
01:41:34,093 --> 01:41:35,132
Speaker 4: on appearance.

2140
01:41:36,093 --> 01:41:39,732
Speaker 2: So even if people say they're not judging you and don't,

2141
01:41:39,853 --> 01:41:41,333
Speaker 2: even if they don't want to be the kind of

2142
01:41:41,333 --> 01:41:43,772
Speaker 2: people to judge you, these things happen automatically. You see

2143
01:41:43,772 --> 01:41:44,372
Speaker 2: someone you judge.

2144
01:41:45,253 --> 01:41:46,652
Speaker 16: Oh, I've heard it.

2145
01:41:46,732 --> 01:41:47,932
Speaker 4: I've had it numerous times.

2146
01:41:48,013 --> 01:41:48,173
Speaker 12: You know.

2147
01:41:49,572 --> 01:41:52,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a way different topic. But I've had,

2148
01:41:52,812 --> 01:41:55,772
Speaker 4: you know, sort of building inspectors turn up and they

2149
01:41:55,812 --> 01:41:57,772
Speaker 4: don't believe on the site manager, probably because of the

2150
01:41:57,893 --> 01:42:00,572
Speaker 4: color of my skin. So I've gone to someone else.

2151
01:42:00,652 --> 01:42:01,972
Speaker 4: But hey, that's something else.

2152
01:42:02,053 --> 01:42:03,532
Speaker 2: But it's not cool.

2153
01:42:03,652 --> 01:42:05,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, it's I've always just tried to

2154
01:42:05,652 --> 01:42:09,013
Speaker 4: present myself well. I've sort of get to step by

2155
01:42:09,133 --> 01:42:11,173
Speaker 4: work by some of the guys. You're going to church,

2156
01:42:12,492 --> 01:42:13,492
Speaker 4: it looks nice.

2157
01:42:14,133 --> 01:42:17,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, good on you, Jay, Thanks for your cool. Yeah,

2158
01:42:17,293 --> 01:42:18,572
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. And I think a lot

2159
01:42:18,612 --> 01:42:20,812
Speaker 3: of people do find that important. But what do you say, Oh,

2160
01:42:20,853 --> 01:42:23,012
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty, Hey, Jens, the comover

2161
01:42:23,173 --> 01:42:25,452
Speaker 3: is already back. Our kids are rocking it at school now.

2162
01:42:25,973 --> 01:42:28,972
Speaker 3: So would you fake a combover? So you'd you would

2163
01:42:30,372 --> 01:42:32,652
Speaker 3: shave in a bit of a ball patch and then

2164
01:42:32,692 --> 01:42:35,492
Speaker 3: grow along bit and flip that. That would be cool,

2165
01:42:35,652 --> 01:42:38,612
Speaker 3: That would be cool. I can see you with that look, mate.

2166
01:42:38,652 --> 01:42:40,612
Speaker 2: I'm forty four and to survive with the comover. Not

2167
01:42:40,692 --> 01:42:42,652
Speaker 2: ready to chop it off yet? Yeah, good on you? Right?

2168
01:42:42,692 --> 01:42:44,972
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

2169
01:42:45,053 --> 01:42:48,692
Speaker 3: to call? How important is presentation at work? And should

2170
01:42:48,692 --> 01:42:51,772
Speaker 3: employers be stumbing up if they have an expectation of you?

2171
01:42:51,973 --> 01:42:53,452
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you. I love text like this.

2172
01:42:53,572 --> 01:42:56,572
Speaker 2: It's like, guys, get a grip. It's called self pride.

2173
01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:58,293
Speaker 2: Why do we have to get a grip? What have

2174
01:42:58,372 --> 01:43:02,452
Speaker 2: we said that we needed to grip? We get a grap?

2175
01:43:02,572 --> 01:43:06,372
Speaker 2: We haven't said get a grip. If you can't present

2176
01:43:06,412 --> 01:43:07,933
Speaker 2: yourself in a tidy manner in your job, it's not

2177
01:43:08,013 --> 01:43:10,093
Speaker 2: up to the to do it for you. What an

2178
01:43:10,293 --> 01:43:13,253
Speaker 2: entitled way for you, guys to think? Well, we never

2179
01:43:13,293 --> 01:43:15,572
Speaker 2: actually said that, but we'll get a grip, Yeah, one

2180
01:43:15,652 --> 01:43:17,133
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I'll get onto that. I'll get a grip

2181
01:43:17,173 --> 01:43:18,372
Speaker 2: in the break and we'll be back very soon.

2182
01:43:18,412 --> 01:43:21,252
Speaker 3: We'll promise you that. Nineteen to four well and truly.

2183
01:43:21,093 --> 01:43:22,173
Speaker 2: Gripping when we get back.

2184
01:43:23,412 --> 01:43:25,772
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

2185
01:43:25,893 --> 01:43:29,772
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks,

2186
01:43:29,812 --> 01:43:30,133
Speaker 1: they'd be.

2187
01:43:30,732 --> 01:43:31,532
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you.

2188
01:43:31,652 --> 01:43:33,412
Speaker 3: So if your job requires you to look a certain way,

2189
01:43:33,452 --> 01:43:35,093
Speaker 3: should your employer help foot the ball?

2190
01:43:35,452 --> 01:43:35,532
Speaker 4: Oh?

2191
01:43:35,572 --> 01:43:37,253
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty And this is after

2192
01:43:37,333 --> 01:43:40,212
Speaker 2: Sam Wallace believed that he needed to get here plugs

2193
01:43:40,372 --> 01:43:43,293
Speaker 2: to stay relevant in his media job. He's the one

2194
01:43:43,333 --> 01:43:47,172
Speaker 2: of the coast breakfast hosts radio station that's just downstairs

2195
01:43:47,213 --> 01:43:49,213
Speaker 2: from us. Yeah, good people, Are they directly below us?

2196
01:43:49,293 --> 01:43:51,572
Speaker 3: I think they are actually pretty much just stomp our feet.

2197
01:43:51,692 --> 01:43:55,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, At the risk is sounding harsh, I've been

2198
01:43:55,213 --> 01:43:57,173
Speaker 2: bored for over thirty years. I look at any man

2199
01:43:57,253 --> 01:44:01,333
Speaker 2: with the tupe or obviously a here transplant as having

2200
01:44:01,412 --> 01:44:04,532
Speaker 2: a weakness of character. All this about standards of appearance

2201
01:44:04,572 --> 01:44:06,692
Speaker 2: of smoke and mirrors, that implies all ball people are

2202
01:44:06,732 --> 01:44:11,133
Speaker 2: automatically lesser somehow, which is patently ridiculous. This is a

2203
01:44:11,213 --> 01:44:14,293
Speaker 2: debate about the egoistic self, nothing more. Cheers Brian.

2204
01:44:14,452 --> 01:44:15,092
Speaker 3: Great text.

2205
01:44:15,612 --> 01:44:18,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I certainly would never think less

2206
01:44:18,812 --> 01:44:23,212
Speaker 2: of someone or more of someone for being bored or anything.

2207
01:44:23,532 --> 01:44:28,173
Speaker 2: But I think there are people that overdress. Yeah, for work,

2208
01:44:28,532 --> 01:44:30,572
Speaker 2: I think you can come in with and you've put

2209
01:44:30,692 --> 01:44:33,053
Speaker 2: too much on and there's too many different outfits. There's

2210
01:44:33,053 --> 01:44:37,133
Speaker 2: too much going on and you and look, people can

2211
01:44:37,173 --> 01:44:38,932
Speaker 2: do whatever they want, but you do in the back

2212
01:44:38,933 --> 01:44:41,293
Speaker 2: of mind them, how do you have time? Yeah, you

2213
01:44:41,372 --> 01:44:43,973
Speaker 2: have the mental space to be turning out like that

2214
01:44:44,093 --> 01:44:44,852
Speaker 2: every day. Yeah.

2215
01:44:45,293 --> 01:44:47,013
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty. Ten to eighty is the

2216
01:44:47,293 --> 01:44:51,253
Speaker 3: number to call. I think we've got Peter on the line,

2217
01:44:51,333 --> 01:44:52,532
Speaker 3: or he might be down there a little bit.

2218
01:44:53,093 --> 01:44:54,893
Speaker 2: We go, Oh, there we go, Peter. Welcome to the

2219
01:44:54,933 --> 01:44:58,852
Speaker 2: show's an How are you very good? Better since we've

2220
01:44:58,853 --> 01:45:01,012
Speaker 2: heard from you, Peter, Oh, marvelous.

2221
01:45:01,532 --> 01:45:03,173
Speaker 16: And then look to generals you're talking about. They had

2222
01:45:03,213 --> 01:45:05,652
Speaker 16: the hair transplant. I just taught the tar end. There

2223
01:45:06,013 --> 01:45:08,532
Speaker 16: is here a radio breakfast totally.

2224
01:45:08,492 --> 01:45:11,973
Speaker 2: Yeah on Sam Wallace. It's an excellent article actually in

2225
01:45:12,133 --> 01:45:15,492
Speaker 2: the n Z Herald it's a podcast actually with Liam Dan,

2226
01:45:15,572 --> 01:45:17,532
Speaker 2: but it's been turned into an article. Yes, Sam Wallace

2227
01:45:17,572 --> 01:45:20,532
Speaker 2: who does the breakfast show with Tony Street on Coast FM.

2228
01:45:21,772 --> 01:45:23,532
Speaker 16: Because you can't see people on the radio.

2229
01:45:25,213 --> 01:45:28,253
Speaker 2: We were lucky, Yeah, lucky, lucky for a lot of us.

2230
01:45:28,372 --> 01:45:29,772
Speaker 16: Yeah, yes, I just wonder why.

2231
01:45:30,053 --> 01:45:30,253
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2232
01:45:30,612 --> 01:45:34,933
Speaker 16: Anyway, look the comeover I heard about that too, And no,

2233
01:45:35,053 --> 01:45:38,133
Speaker 16: don't bring the combover back. I mean you just have

2234
01:45:38,253 --> 01:45:40,933
Speaker 16: to look at the big the great orange idiot, and

2235
01:45:41,293 --> 01:45:43,893
Speaker 16: look at the combover that he's got. I've seen some

2236
01:45:44,013 --> 01:45:47,093
Speaker 16: comeover with my time, and they are absolutely shocking. I

2237
01:45:47,213 --> 01:45:50,772
Speaker 16: wouldn't be caught dead in a combover. And look back

2238
01:45:50,853 --> 01:45:55,253
Speaker 16: in my fifties, both the US. Around the fifties, I

2239
01:45:56,093 --> 01:46:00,372
Speaker 16: was starting to get what was commonly called as a

2240
01:46:00,933 --> 01:46:04,652
Speaker 16: monkey's bun on the top of my head. So there

2241
01:46:04,732 --> 01:46:07,012
Speaker 16: was a ball patch appearing and it got bigger and bigger.

2242
01:46:07,572 --> 01:46:09,692
Speaker 16: And it was one afternoon having a few drinks with

2243
01:46:09,732 --> 01:46:13,053
Speaker 16: a few friends with some friends of ours and their

2244
01:46:14,013 --> 01:46:19,772
Speaker 16: daughter in law happened to be a yah heaver and

2245
01:46:20,692 --> 01:46:21,932
Speaker 16: taught me in to get the number two.

2246
01:46:22,812 --> 01:46:23,452
Speaker 13: A few more.

2247
01:46:23,333 --> 01:46:25,412
Speaker 16: Wines and yes, I ended up with a number two

2248
01:46:25,572 --> 01:46:28,172
Speaker 16: and I've never looked back since. And that was twenty

2249
01:46:28,372 --> 01:46:32,253
Speaker 16: something years ago, twenty five years ago now probably, And

2250
01:46:32,372 --> 01:46:35,093
Speaker 16: it's good, it's easy. It saved me.

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01:46:35,372 --> 01:46:37,973
Speaker 21: Back in those days, a haircut was fifteen dollars, So

2252
01:46:39,173 --> 01:46:41,973
Speaker 21: they'll save you fifteen dollars every time I need to

2253
01:46:42,013 --> 01:46:45,093
Speaker 21: have a haircut, because I do it myself now. And

2254
01:46:46,412 --> 01:46:50,253
Speaker 21: my wife of fifty four almost fifty five years still

2255
01:46:51,173 --> 01:46:53,293
Speaker 21: lived with me. We still go to the same bed

2256
01:46:53,333 --> 01:46:58,372
Speaker 21: together other things, so obviously it's worked and all those

2257
01:46:58,372 --> 01:46:58,812
Speaker 21: other things.

2258
01:46:59,093 --> 01:47:01,612
Speaker 16: Obviously it's worked for it's worked for us or for me.

2259
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:04,772
Speaker 2: So your person there, so are You're a person though

2260
01:47:04,812 --> 01:47:07,053
Speaker 2: that's naturally got a confidence in yourself. You sound like

2261
01:47:07,093 --> 01:47:09,052
Speaker 2: a person that has a great deal of self worth

2262
01:47:09,133 --> 01:47:11,333
Speaker 2: that just sort of bubbles up from below. Can you

2263
01:47:11,372 --> 01:47:14,772
Speaker 2: imagine a situation where someone doesn't, you know, already feels

2264
01:47:14,772 --> 01:47:17,852
Speaker 2: a little bit worried about themselves and this is just

2265
01:47:17,893 --> 01:47:19,732
Speaker 2: another thing they have to deal with that that's hitting

2266
01:47:19,772 --> 01:47:20,372
Speaker 2: their confidence.

2267
01:47:21,532 --> 01:47:23,732
Speaker 16: Well, I guess yes, that's true. That's true.

2268
01:47:23,732 --> 01:47:27,173
Speaker 9: I mean for me, it's never bothered me having the

2269
01:47:27,452 --> 01:47:30,612
Speaker 9: the the number two, it's never both. I mean in

2270
01:47:30,893 --> 01:47:33,692
Speaker 9: the haircut, it's never bothered me having the the the

2271
01:47:34,853 --> 01:47:36,692
Speaker 9: short hair or the ball part of it.

2272
01:47:37,652 --> 01:47:39,692
Speaker 16: And yeah, maybe I do have a bit more confidence

2273
01:47:39,772 --> 01:47:40,732
Speaker 16: than other people.

2274
01:47:40,853 --> 01:47:42,572
Speaker 12: But it is what it is.

2275
01:47:42,933 --> 01:47:45,652
Speaker 16: It's a natural thing and it happens to a lot

2276
01:47:45,652 --> 01:47:49,013
Speaker 16: of men and timetimes to some woman and just let

2277
01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:50,293
Speaker 16: it go, let it happen.

2278
01:47:50,492 --> 01:47:52,812
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, it's just yeah, it is what

2279
01:47:52,893 --> 01:47:54,732
Speaker 13: it is, Peter.

2280
01:47:54,772 --> 01:47:56,532
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. It is a good call, isn't it.

2281
01:47:56,692 --> 01:47:58,812
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I don't want to be because

2282
01:47:58,812 --> 01:48:01,973
Speaker 3: I'm not facing any sort of baldness situation, but the

2283
01:48:02,053 --> 01:48:04,412
Speaker 3: old comb over or the fellers out there, and it's

2284
01:48:04,452 --> 01:48:06,532
Speaker 3: primarily fellas, and I've got you've got a bit of

2285
01:48:06,612 --> 01:48:08,612
Speaker 3: here there that's just hanging on for dear line and

2286
01:48:08,652 --> 01:48:10,133
Speaker 3: they don't want to give it up, and I just think,

2287
01:48:10,293 --> 01:48:12,852
Speaker 3: just go the whole hog. People are probably talking more

2288
01:48:12,853 --> 01:48:14,852
Speaker 3: about those we whispers are here that you're trying to

2289
01:48:14,973 --> 01:48:16,732
Speaker 3: row gain the hell out of in the hopes that

2290
01:48:16,853 --> 01:48:17,812
Speaker 3: it's going to do something.

2291
01:48:18,253 --> 01:48:20,732
Speaker 2: Just shave it off. I take a let let live

2292
01:48:20,772 --> 01:48:22,492
Speaker 2: and let live approach to people that here. If someone

2293
01:48:22,492 --> 01:48:24,692
Speaker 2: wants to run a punishing come over, I'm all for it.

2294
01:48:24,772 --> 01:48:27,572
Speaker 2: If they're you know, they've just got one little whispy bit.

2295
01:48:27,652 --> 01:48:31,852
Speaker 2: If they want to get the back of their skull

2296
01:48:32,333 --> 01:48:35,452
Speaker 2: sliced open and pulled over the front and stay pulled down.

2297
01:48:35,853 --> 01:48:37,612
Speaker 6: Whatever you want to do, own it. They want to

2298
01:48:37,652 --> 01:48:42,812
Speaker 6: wear a rug, go go for it. Whatever whatever makes you,

2299
01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:45,173
Speaker 6: you know, get through, get through the day. I mean,

2300
01:48:45,213 --> 01:48:46,973
Speaker 6: the problem with all these kinds of things is that

2301
01:48:48,133 --> 01:48:50,253
Speaker 6: you you might be shorter than you want to be.

2302
01:48:51,053 --> 01:48:53,213
Speaker 2: You know, you might be whatever.

2303
01:48:53,853 --> 01:48:54,013
Speaker 14: You know.

2304
01:48:54,293 --> 01:48:55,333
Speaker 2: You can't fix it all, can you.

2305
01:48:55,532 --> 01:48:55,732
Speaker 13: Yeah?

2306
01:48:55,812 --> 01:48:57,173
Speaker 3: Self confidence is what you see.

2307
01:48:57,772 --> 01:48:59,812
Speaker 2: You have to fix it internally. You have to win

2308
01:48:59,933 --> 01:49:04,012
Speaker 2: the internal battle, because the winning the external battle very expensive. Yeah,

2309
01:49:04,652 --> 01:49:05,133
Speaker 2: very true.

2310
01:49:05,293 --> 01:49:08,213
Speaker 3: All right, it is ten to four. I will take Julian.

2311
01:49:08,492 --> 01:49:10,812
Speaker 3: Just before we got to play some messages, get mate,

2312
01:49:12,053 --> 01:49:14,053
Speaker 3: Hey man, how are you very good? So you're a

2313
01:49:14,093 --> 01:49:18,253
Speaker 3: business owner and you do pay for stuff clothes, Yeah.

2314
01:49:18,133 --> 01:49:21,452
Speaker 14: One hundred percent. I think it sort of creates a

2315
01:49:21,492 --> 01:49:23,093
Speaker 14: bit more of a crew and a bit more of

2316
01:49:23,133 --> 01:49:28,253
Speaker 14: a tribe, everyone feels. I guess it's quite easy for

2317
01:49:28,333 --> 01:49:30,532
Speaker 14: people to recognize when people out and go and doing

2318
01:49:30,612 --> 01:49:34,653
Speaker 14: deliveries to customers and that as well. I recognized uniforms

2319
01:49:34,772 --> 01:49:38,173
Speaker 14: or recognize the logos and all that kind of stuff.

2320
01:49:38,253 --> 01:49:41,492
Speaker 14: So yeah, It just makes especially when we need to

2321
01:49:41,532 --> 01:49:46,052
Speaker 14: go on back entrances and stuff like that, makes people

2322
01:49:46,093 --> 01:49:48,973
Speaker 14: feel a bit more secure as well. And I don't know,

2323
01:49:49,013 --> 01:49:52,412
Speaker 14: I think everyone just everyone enjoys, especially when we're at

2324
01:49:52,452 --> 01:49:55,933
Speaker 14: events and we've all got the same t shirts on

2325
01:49:56,053 --> 01:49:58,812
Speaker 14: the same branding and hoddies and stuff like that.

2326
01:49:59,652 --> 01:50:01,412
Speaker 2: What kind of industry, Julian.

2327
01:50:02,572 --> 01:50:06,932
Speaker 19: We actually we actually grow food. So we grow spray

2328
01:50:06,973 --> 01:50:10,252
Speaker 19: through micro greens vertically in Auckland.

2329
01:50:11,093 --> 01:50:13,372
Speaker 2: Wow, what an interesting job.

2330
01:50:13,772 --> 01:50:14,333
Speaker 4: So do you?

2331
01:50:15,612 --> 01:50:17,652
Speaker 2: I don't think I quite understand it, so heny not you?

2332
01:50:18,093 --> 01:50:19,612
Speaker 2: You just explavored us quickly.

2333
01:50:20,692 --> 01:50:23,732
Speaker 19: So literally, let's say we're in a three hundred square

2334
01:50:23,772 --> 01:50:28,172
Speaker 19: meter whehouse and we've got four levels of hydro products,

2335
01:50:28,692 --> 01:50:32,652
Speaker 19: all on different levels, and there's micro greens which are

2336
01:50:32,812 --> 01:50:37,532
Speaker 19: basically a super bood. So it's kind of similar to sprouts. Ye, yeah,

2337
01:50:37,732 --> 01:50:41,052
Speaker 19: similar to sprouts, but a little spatially growing under lights,

2338
01:50:41,213 --> 01:50:43,732
Speaker 19: so then they produce a lot more nutrients and a

2339
01:50:43,812 --> 01:50:47,213
Speaker 19: lot more taste. So yeah, it's a sort of a

2340
01:50:47,253 --> 01:50:51,173
Speaker 19: new product that's coming out. A business is called raw

2341
01:50:51,213 --> 01:50:53,333
Speaker 19: culture Farms. So you're welcome down a lock can.

2342
01:50:53,572 --> 01:50:56,492
Speaker 2: Culture it out. I'll check that out, and just the

2343
01:50:57,372 --> 01:50:59,492
Speaker 2: you're not growing any cannabis in there, are you at all?

2344
01:50:59,812 --> 01:51:02,372
Speaker 19: Julians No, man, not at all.

2345
01:51:02,732 --> 01:51:05,253
Speaker 13: But how you can do that? You forget a medical

2346
01:51:05,333 --> 01:51:05,812
Speaker 13: license now?

2347
01:51:06,372 --> 01:51:06,852
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

2348
01:51:06,973 --> 01:51:08,852
Speaker 14: No, maybe in the future now, Curly.

2349
01:51:08,933 --> 01:51:11,213
Speaker 2: And my question for you is you're providing providing your

2350
01:51:11,213 --> 01:51:13,333
Speaker 2: stuff with these uniforms. Does and annoy you when they

2351
01:51:13,532 --> 01:51:15,492
Speaker 2: turn up with them and they're dirty or they're not

2352
01:51:15,812 --> 01:51:17,892
Speaker 2: respecting the uniform that you've bought for them.

2353
01:51:20,053 --> 01:51:20,572
Speaker 13: I guess we.

2354
01:51:22,293 --> 01:51:23,372
Speaker 16: No, We've never really had that.

2355
01:51:23,452 --> 01:51:23,812
Speaker 14: I's sure.

2356
01:51:23,853 --> 01:51:26,253
Speaker 19: I mean we give them a decent amount, so, I

2357
01:51:26,293 --> 01:51:28,532
Speaker 19: mean they can always have have stuff that's clean to

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Speaker 19: put on and chuck stuff in the wash, so it's

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Speaker 19: not like we give them one or two T shirts

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Speaker 19: or one or two shirts.

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Speaker 13: You know, we'll make them make sure all.

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Speaker 14: I've got like seven to ten there, so you know

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Speaker 14: they're keeping good conditions as well.

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Speaker 2: Make you sound like a great boss. Julian, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: great stuff. I'm going to look this up raw culture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, good people. It is eight minutes to fall

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Speaker 3: back very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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Speaker 1: used talks'd be.

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Speaker 2: Just to finish up the topic a couple of kit text.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, I'm an electrician in Raglan. There's a rule

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Speaker 2: in our industry that you must wear shorts all year round,

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Speaker 2: trousers slow down. I recently convinced my apprentice to shave

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Speaker 2: his head with me so he can work faster. When

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Speaker 2: I pick him up in the morning, he's doing star

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Speaker 2: jumps at the letterbox to warm up. Oh good, what

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Speaker 2: a great apprentice. I think here is definitely a personal preference,

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Speaker 2: so should probably be a personal expense. However, the IDA

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Speaker 2: currently says you can't claim a uniform as an expense

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Speaker 2: unless it's embroidered. I've always found the silly. For example,

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Speaker 2: in my past corporate jobs, I went out and bought

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Speaker 2: three suits costing several thousand dollars that I've never worn

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Speaker 2: outside of work. But the idea ID will debate that

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Speaker 2: you may wear that suit at a funeral or a wedding,

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Speaker 2: so it cannot be complained. But could you embroider something

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Speaker 2: on that suit and get around it? Yeah? Great text?

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Speaker 2: All right, It brings us to the end of the shows.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. It's been a great

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Speaker 2: afternoon's chat. I've loved all of it. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for all your great calls and texts, you great

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders. The pot will be up soon if you've

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Speaker 2: missed anything, and the powerful Heather Juglossy Allen will be

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Speaker 2: up next. But right now, Tyler, my friend, tell me

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Speaker 2: why I'm playing the song.

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Speaker 3: Fleetwood Mac's Secondhand News great tune because we were talking

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Speaker 3: about those local rags. People aren't reading them, but they

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Speaker 3: love Facebook, Marketplace and coffee news.

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Speaker 2: Jamssenda right, thanks for listening, see you tomorrow. Give a

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