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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray are UK corresponders with us even in Gevin

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Speaker 1: hither Heather, do you reckon the government's really going to

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Speaker 1: go ahead with this barex IDEA?

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Speaker 2: Well, yes I do, because the UK is already using

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Speaker 2: former army and RAF bases in order to house migrants

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Speaker 2: while they're having their applications reviewed. But certainly now the

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Speaker 2: government really stressing that they are looking to expand this notion.

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Speaker 2: There's even talk of some use of former industrial sites

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Speaker 2: and even talk for using some warehousing as well. So

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Speaker 2: the government deciding to try to clear out the number

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Speaker 2: of people housed in hotels a taxpayer funded accommodation. At

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Speaker 2: the moment, thirty two thousand asylum seekers are housed in hotels,

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Speaker 2: and Heather, it's wrong if you're thinking all these are

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Speaker 2: cheap budget hotels. Some of them are very nice hotels,

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Speaker 2: and it is costing millions of New Zealand dollars a

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Speaker 2: day to fund them. And of course it's been extremely

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Speaker 2: in the headlines say very controversial and people are getting

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Speaker 2: very fed up, and I think the government is recognized

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Speaker 2: this is one of the big topics for the next

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Speaker 2: general election. A vote winner or a vote loser to

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Speaker 2: get this sorted out. So the government's looking at two

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Speaker 2: former military sites, a former RAF base in Essex down

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Speaker 2: in the southeast and also a former military base in Kent,

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Speaker 2: also in the southeast. In other words, where so many

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Speaker 2: of the migrants are arriving. Indeed, we've just heard that

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Speaker 2: on the first day of the new Home Secretary, the

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Speaker 2: new woman in charge of the migrant problem, more than

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Speaker 2: one thousand people arrived. Almost one thousand, one hundred arrived

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Speaker 2: on her first fall day and the job. That means

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand have arrived by small votes so far this

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Speaker 2: calendar year, and that is a new record for this

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Speaker 2: point in the year. So Labor the party of government

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Speaker 2: realizing something has to be done quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. How's the emergency alerts on the mobile phones going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they seemed to go pretty well. So my phone

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Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon our time, at three pm sounded with an

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Speaker 2: alert for ten seconds, along with roughly eighty two million

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Speaker 2: other phones. This was the second testing of a national

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Speaker 2: system for sending emergency alerts to mobile phones. It's a

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Speaker 2: way of people being reached really, really quickly, and this

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Speaker 2: was the second test. The alerts are designed for crisis

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Speaker 2: where there's an imminent danger to life, such as during

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Speaker 2: extreme weather events or a terror attack. It works on

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Speaker 2: separate phone masks, so you don't have to alert everyone

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Speaker 2: around the country at the same time. You just nominate

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Speaker 2: the phone mask you want to contact, as it were,

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Speaker 2: or the area, and then you can contact people in

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Speaker 2: that area in a matter of seconds. Now, in the

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Speaker 2: first trial, which is back in twenty twenty three, some

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Speaker 2: received multiple messages, others didn't get any message at all.

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Speaker 2: On this time, I think it's been a much better

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Speaker 2: test anyway, on the UK's four G and five G

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Speaker 2: networks received the message even if they were not connected

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Speaker 2: to mobile data or Wi Fi, and that, as I said,

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Speaker 2: eighty two phone eighty two million phones in total, it

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Speaker 2: seemed to work better. However, some people report they didn't

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Speaker 2: get the message for fifteen to twenty minutes after it

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Speaker 2: was supposed to go out, and so that's obviously going

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Speaker 2: to be something that the government needed to work on.

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Speaker 2: And this is something here that's certainly getting a great

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Speaker 2: deal of interest from the government, just how to get

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Speaker 2: hold of people quickly should there be alerts. It's been

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Speaker 2: used in the past fourth storms, but also in one

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Speaker 2: instance when they discover a five hundred kiloground World War

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Speaker 2: II bomb unexploded in a city center at the southwest.

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Speaker 1: Doesnt Gevin get Google's a little bit poorer today, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Ah? Well, it certainly should be with what's happened, but

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Speaker 2: it is appealing the judgment. So the European Union has

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Speaker 2: find Google at five and a half billion in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand dollars, the EU alleging they are abusing air power

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Speaker 2: in the ad tech sector. So what they're saying is

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Speaker 2: the technology which determines which adverts should be placed online

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Speaker 2: and where, is, according to the EU, being rigged in

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Speaker 2: Google's favor. The European Commission saying that the tech giant

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Speaker 2: had breached competition laws by favoring its own products for

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Speaker 2: displaying online ads to the detriment of its rivals. However,

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Speaker 2: Google says the decision is wrong and says it will appeal,

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump has weighed in, the US president attacking

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Speaker 2: the decision, saying in a post on social media, it

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Speaker 2: was very unfair and threatening to launch an investigation over

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Speaker 2: European tech practices that could lead to tariffs. I think

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Speaker 2: the timing of this fine is very interesting. Just a

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Speaker 2: few weeks, of course after they've agreed between the EU

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Speaker 2: and the US a trade deal, but certainly earlier this

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Speaker 2: week the Commission denying that timing was deliberate and as

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Speaker 2: part of their findings at Google had intentionally boosted its

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Speaker 2: own advertising exchange ADX over competing exchanges where ads are

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Speaker 2: bought and sold in real time. So I think this

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Speaker 2: is one we're going to hear more of when the

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Speaker 2: appeal comes to Fruition.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Devin, appreciate it. Gavin Gray, UK correspondent.

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