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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has just cast his vote in Palm Beach, Florida.

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Speaker 1: He says the biggest issue in his mind this election

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Speaker 1: was the border. We're going to Bill Darrow now. He's

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Speaker 1: a former d NC treasure a Democrat and is with

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Speaker 1: us live from New York City. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, good morning in New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with me. First of all, no

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Speaker 1: matter who wins, how do you How are you feeling

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Speaker 1: about the state of your country right now?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'll be applying for New Zealand passport. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. It is. It is terrifyingly fraught right now.

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Speaker 2: The the tensions are very high, the the rhetoric is

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Speaker 2: is very intense. I think a lot of it has

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Speaker 2: to do with social media from outside the US. But

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Speaker 2: it's h's it's I've never seen it so divided in

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Speaker 2: my life.

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Speaker 1: Have Democrats lost the ability to penetrate and speak to

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Speaker 1: those white, middle class, working class voters that they need

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Speaker 1: to get Harris across the line?

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think that Democrats have lost some of

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Speaker 2: the ability to talk to those people. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that that will result in not getting across the line.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a bunch of different factors happening right now,

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Speaker 2: particularly with women. I'm very optimistic as a Democrat that

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Speaker 2: there's sort of a silent majority of women, large majority,

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Speaker 2: who are going to vote for Kamala Harris, not because

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Speaker 2: she's would be the first female president, but really to

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Speaker 2: stop the other side in the things that they have

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Speaker 2: been doing and saying, you know, with respect to women's

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Speaker 2: reproductive rights, with respect to women's rights in general, I

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Speaker 2: do think we have a lot of work to do

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Speaker 2: with the white working class. My father was a union carpenter,

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Speaker 2: so I'm very familiar with that that world, and I

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Speaker 2: do think having Tim Walls as as Vice president will

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Speaker 2: be will be helpful in connecting with people like that.

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Speaker 1: What's happening in You're in New York City right now,

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Speaker 1: what's happening there in terms of protest backlash? Preparing for

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Speaker 1: that potential.

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Speaker 2: I think that there is a sorry potential of a

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Speaker 2: Trump winner or a Harris Win.

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Speaker 1: Harris win, I think people in New.

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Speaker 2: York in general, I'm there is an interesting divide amongst

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Speaker 2: people who would traditionally be Democratic voters, but if they're

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Speaker 2: Jewish Americans, some of them are taking a different perspective

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Speaker 2: now because it's happening in the Middle East and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to stay out of that. Other than to say,

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of silly on both sides. People

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Speaker 2: who who are not going to vote for Harris because

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Speaker 2: they don't think she's strong enough for people on the

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Speaker 2: other side saying she's not doing enough for the Gosins.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's ridiculous and since that those are

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Speaker 2: huge issues. But I think clearly Donald Trump would be

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Speaker 2: worse for everybody over there. But I think in New

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Speaker 2: York a lot of people are nervous about what might happen.

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Speaker 2: That being said, it is predominantly a democratic city, but

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, if Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: tonight has announced a winner in a massive landslide, then

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Speaker 2: I think you will see a bunch of people coming

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Speaker 2: out protesting, not unlike the Women's March you had after

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Speaker 2: the election in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So potential for protest either way. Bill, thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for being with us here in New Zealand today.

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Speaker 1: Great to have your company. That's Bill dere He's the

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