1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Charsy's Podcastakoto. Welcome to Shared Lunch, 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: brought to you by Sharesy's. I'm Garth Bray and I'm 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: probably on holiday by now, and I bet you are too. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what I did this year, 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: what you might have missed, because I think you might 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: quite like it. You get to meet some great people 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: during this podcast, and I meet an absolute winner when 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: I sat down with the CEO of Brisco Group, Rodduke. So, 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: how have you been able to deal with competition while 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: also staying truly at core values. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Look, I think you're going to go all the way 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: back to nineteen eighty eight when we sat down and 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: we were a quasi seller of toys hardware merchants, but 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: of everything. I sat down then with the key people 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: in the business and said, look, the position that we 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: find ourselves in right now is unsustainable. There's terrific hardware 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: merchants out there selling hardware the toy business that we're in, 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: which is a thirty day business. And so we had 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: a look at the landscape and figured out which piece 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: of that retail landscape we could occupy, dominate and defend. 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: And the piece that we found that was vacant was 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: really good quality product, really good price. And so we thought, okay, 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: let's go out there and get all the famous brand 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: names in the categories that we want to operate in, 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: and that's what we'll sell. Because look, at the end 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: of the day, the rich and middle income folks always buy, 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: you know, real good quality product. So that was the 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: core of where we thought we ought to sit. We 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: believe we could defend that position, and here thirty eight 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: years on, we've managed to do it. And we've done it. 31 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: We're now with two brands, with two different categories of 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: merchandise in two different brands of stores. 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Homes and sports where yeah yeah, yeah. So is there 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: a secret to success in the business in this economy. 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: I think if you're predictable, I think if you're trustworthy, 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: and I think if you're very, very community located so 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: people don't have to go to great lengths to shop 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: with you, that's probably a pretty good start. I would 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: have thought. 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: I tuned into your AGM. I heard a great quote 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I just want to share with everybody. Retail is like 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: crossing a tightrope, juggling flaming torches while riding a Uni cycle. 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: That was your chief financial officer, wasn't it? 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: And bang on it was? Yeah? 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Did he get that from you? 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: No? No, No, regrettably it is good, was it? 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: I was sort of struck by that. I mean, he's 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: talking about I think, if I understand it right, the 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: dilemma of trying to sell as much as you can 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: but also make as much as you can from it. 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: And when I sort of looked, you've had to pull 52 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: your gross profit back how much you're making of this 53 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: by about I think it was about two hundred basis points, 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: about two percent down to about forty percent, just in 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: order to keep the sales flat last year. Tell me 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: about that, typrope Walk. How do you make those sorts 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: of decisions. 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: It all starts with being able to buy the right 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: merchandise embite at the right price. If you do that, 60 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: then you've got to build a leeway to compensate for 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: some of these poor times that come around from time 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: to time. And sometimes these poor times last weeks and 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: sometimes months, sometimes the season they very rarely last for 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: the period they've lasted this time, and so you know, 65 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: when people are resisting spending money and shopping, you know 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: there's always a proportion that will. So it's really important 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: that you're able in some way to get a bigger chunk. 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: It's a been like a day fishing. If the fisher 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: are feeding, sometimes you got to change your bait, and 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: sometimes you got to change your position, and sometimes you 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: got to change things up to get a good chunk 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: of those that are shopping. And so that's the skill 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: I think that's embedded here. Investing involves the risk you 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: might lose the money you start with. 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: We recommend talking to a licensed financial advisor. 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