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Speaker 1: More on this resignation of the Deputy Police Commissioner Devin Mcskimming.

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Speaker 1: Sources have told The Herald that he quit after porn

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Speaker 1: was found on his work computer. This is before basically

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Speaker 1: he could be pushed. Lance Burdett is author and former

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Speaker 1: police officer with us this morning. Lance, good morning, ring right.

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Speaker 1: Are you shocked to hear that? Surprised to hear that?

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Speaker 2: I am very shocked. I don't know Jiven that well,

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Speaker 2: but I know of him. He was a high flyer,

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Speaker 2: a person that was very determined out of nowhere. You know,

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Speaker 2: You've got to remember that it's not the accessing of

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Speaker 2: the pornography or having it, it's that it's on a

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Speaker 2: police computer. And it's common knowledge that you know, viruses

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Speaker 2: and malware into computers from all sorts of unethical sites

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Speaker 2: where this gambling, gaming or restricted websites, and to be

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Speaker 2: doing that on a police computer is beyond me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is alleged at this stage, obviously, but when confronted,

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Speaker 1: when confronted with what the Herald reporting is the cause

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Speaker 1: of this, he resigns. So yeah, now the criminal charge.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing for me is that you've got, you know,

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Speaker 1: allegedly porn on a word computer. But then you've got

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Speaker 1: a separate criminal investigation going on, and yet you know

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Speaker 1: you keep your job during that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because they're obviously it's like any criminal investigation.

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Speaker 2: The idea is to get all the evidence there first

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Speaker 2: and then you speak with the person what they call

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Speaker 2: him personal interest. It's just I've never seen this before.

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Speaker 2: I've never It's none in my career and never happened

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Speaker 2: in I think my living memory where a senior police

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Speaker 2: officer has ever done anything like this and then having

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Speaker 2: been removed or you know, they're resigned before the investigations.

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Speaker 2: That's employment investigation. But now with this criminal investigation, I've

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Speaker 2: never heard of it, and I find it quite astounding,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, and I'm wondering what's behind it all

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Speaker 2: and what Like everybody else, do you figure out what

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Speaker 2: it is?

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is casting a long shadow over

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Speaker 1: the police? Do you think that the minister or the

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Speaker 1: commissioners should be more upfront about actually what's I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously the criminal part you can't talk about. I get that,

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Speaker 1: But for the rest of it now, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: left the building. Who can't just say what happened?

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Speaker 2: Unlessed I both linked and so there we have to be.

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Speaker 2: But you know the thing about I know the Commissioner

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Speaker 2: and also know the minister. They both have strong moral

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Speaker 2: and ethical codes and you've seen this with the with

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Speaker 2: the latest saga around the swim tests. So they both

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Speaker 2: are ensuring that police officers and police officers have to

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Speaker 2: be beyond approach. The higher they go up, the more

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Speaker 2: the higher expectation of them. And you know, as I say,

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Speaker 2: to get to them in the second top job and

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Speaker 2: then to have this happen to a person as I've

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Speaker 2: never seen it before. I can't even think in overseas

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Speaker 2: jurisdictions where it's happened befo or so. Yeah, they do

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Speaker 2: have to wait now for the rest of the investigation

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Speaker 2: to go through. He's no longer a police officer and

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Speaker 2: it does tarnish the rest of the service. But know

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Speaker 2: that I used to investigate police officers. We are tougher

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Speaker 2: on our own.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time, Lance, Thanks for that. Lance Burt, author

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