1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: All right. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: TikTok users in the USA had a bit of a 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: rollercoaster ride this morning. The app started functioning or stopped functioning. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: At first, there was a pop up message that said 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: this is because of the impending band by the US government, 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: who's very worried about mining of data by China. Then 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: about twelve hours later it was back. In coming President 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump says, I'm going to arrange for TikTok's parent company, 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: byte Dance, to become part of American owned. It's all good, 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: We've sorted it, says Donald. Mental health advocate jas Thornton 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: is on the TikTok and joins you now, Hella Jazz, Hey, 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: how many followers you got? 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Uh? On one account, I got two point three or 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: two point four million, I think, and then another account 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: with another million on it. 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Does that blow your mind? 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Yea? Sometimes? 18 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: Can you make money from that two point four million 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: people who like to look at what you say on TikTok? 20 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Ah? Yeah, you definitely can, but not compared to what 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: the Americans can make. They're actually getting paid for the 22 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: purviews on the New Zealanders don't get that. 23 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: Why don't we get that? 24 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Because we're not in the Creator Fund, which is ridiculous, 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: but it's Yeah, it's America, and I think Canada or 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: that are inert, but not US. 27 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: So if TikTok stops, do you lose lots of moody. 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't personally, but I think a lot of creators do. 29 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it'll definitely affect our engagement and our ability 30 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: to be able to do like ad campaigns and stuff 31 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, it's not compared to what America 32 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: is going to be hit with. 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: Should the Wes be worried about China owning TikTok and 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: mining for our data like exactly how we like to 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: stroke our dogs? 36 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: No, not at all. I think if the US were 37 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: genuinely concerned about data security, they would have banned things 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: like timu. This is entirely a money control thing. A 39 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: whole lot of the Senates that voted yes on the 40 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: bill have stocks and Meta and Meta was losing billions 41 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: of dollars because all eyes were on TikTok. So they're 42 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: trying to make it out to be this whole thing 43 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: about with security, but it's not. If it's about that, 44 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: then they would have banned so many other things first. 45 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: So I don't think we have to worry about that. 46 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: And of course, because there's so much money involved, as 47 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: soon as you say TikTok stopped, another one will pop up. 48 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: It's like whack a mole. Have you ever heard about 49 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: Red Note? 50 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I downloaded Red Note as soon as all 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: this started happening. 52 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: Is it any good? 53 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Oh? Not really. I mean a lot of it's in Chinese, 54 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: But to be honest, it was pretty much just a 55 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: lot of people trying to go against the US government 56 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: and Meta because they knew that this band was coming 57 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: from that, so they will like, screw you, We'll get 58 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: our data directly to the Chinese, which I thought was 59 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: quite funny. So I joined on that as well. 60 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: So you're putting your stuff on YouTube shorts, now I understand. 61 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think it's for security, but also, you know, 62 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: to be able to continue to reach the people that 63 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: we do. There's so much uncertainty with all kind of 64 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: social media that you can't put everything in one basket. 65 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: So has the don saved TikTok? Do you think it's 66 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: gone or is it going to stay? 67 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: He was the one that initiated the band in twenty twenty. 68 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: He was the person that put this thing into play, 69 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: so I think it's I think it's going to stay, 70 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: but I think they, probably, to be honest, have already 71 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: sold it. I think this whole thing has been a ployee. 72 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's not going anywhere, but it 73 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: won't be the same as. 74 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: What it was. Jazz what's your handle? 75 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: Jazz Thornton, underscore. 76 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: Jazz Thornton, the whole thing underscored. 77 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: No, just Jazz Thornton and then a underscore a. 78 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: Little because is there another Jazz Thornton? 79 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: I know, but I have another account called not jas Thornton, 80 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: which is my silly one that blew up in America. 81 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so you need the underscore, Okay, yeah, apparently 82 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: it's all good. I'm on Twitter X whatever that's called. 83 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens two and I'm not Oh, there we go. 84 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: I haven't found the Andrew Dickens one yet and I 85 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: want to talk to that man. I thank you for 86 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: your time today, Jazz No Worries. 87 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen 88 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 89 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.