1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Fast track as in consenting is coming to the economic party. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: It seems the Australian minus Santana have secured a city 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: a permit for the Central and Tigo gold projects, so 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: they're going to pay either ten percent of profits or 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: two percent of the gold sales to the government, which 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: is an eight hundred million dollars deal over time. Damien 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Spring is the chief executive of Santana Minerals and as 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: well as Damian Morning, Good morning the process itself. Are 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: you happy with it in terms of as a country, 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Are we getting our act together in getting on with 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: the business? Ah? 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: Look, I think we're in our particular second start now 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: reached the part where we've got much more certainty certainly 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: what we had to do in order to formulate our application. 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: It's still diligent, it's still thorough, and it still pretty 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: much sits under the existing the previous legislations which still 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: exist the Resource Management Act another related act. So we're 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: getting there, but I certainly think we can do better. 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Good and will we once the laws are passed. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: Look, I think I think Simon Court is leading that 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: charge and the reforms to the resource management and I 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: understand there's going to be some indication of what that 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: might look like the side of Christmas and with a 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: view to get that into law next year. 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: The pushback you deal with, is mining still a thing 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: in this country as far as you're concerned? For some. 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: Oh, look, there's plenty of pushback, but I'm comfortable that 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: there's much more in terms of support. I've been mining 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: here continuously for twenty years, obviously educating and grew up here, 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: so mining is definitely part of our lives. We just 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: need to raise a profile even more, just educate people 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: about what we do, what we produce, and how we 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: look after our fantastic country we've got here. 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: And do people believe that? Or I mean, what I'm 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: trying to find out are the people who push back 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: these days? Are they the people are always going to 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: push back? Or is there a story to be told 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: that you haven't told quite as well you could have. 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: I think in most cases it's the sort of people 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: who will always push back and to be fair, and 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: a lot of those cases, they are our future neighbors, right, 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: so they've got a right to understand and get into 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: the detail. We have obviously tried to do that and 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: we will continue to do that and discuss with him 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: the deal. 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: You have struck ten percent of the profits of two 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: percent of the gold sales. Is that the way of 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: the future? Is this how this thing should work? 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: I love this particular royalty regime was brought in by 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: the government in twenty thirteen. I guess we're just one 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: of those lucky ones that have actually found something since 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: then that triggers that level of royalty regime. So it 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: is law. Any other new discovery on a permit issue 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: since then will pay a similar basis. 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: Of PRIORTI Is it worth hunting for gold if you 56 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: haven't been given what's happened to the price of gold 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: and later not? Or is it a bigger picture thing 58 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: than that. 59 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: It's going to be worth hunting for gold. The cent 60 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: our discovery here in Central Otago has sparked a interest 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: from a lot of companies moving into the area. That 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: was before this year, well before this year end end 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: of the gold price. So there's definitely price and the 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: fact that we've made this discovery. 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: What do you make of the market at the moment? 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean, is this here for good or is this 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: a moment. 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: I guess reading some of the literature and research notes 69 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: at around there's been definitely a fundamental shift in where 70 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: gold sits in financial markets. There is definitely a flight 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: to safe havens such as gold, and I think we're 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: seeing that based on the research that's going to be 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: here for a while longer. 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Damien, Nice to talk to you, Damian Spring, 75 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: who's the chief executive at SATANA. For more from The 76 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. It'd be 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.