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Speaker 1: We got movement on the granny flat front. So you

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Speaker 1: might remember the change was made whereby you could build

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Speaker 1: a small dwelling without consent. That was set at sixty

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Speaker 1: square meters. While public feedback is seen, it moved now

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Speaker 1: to seventy square meters. Apparently Housing Minister Chris Bishop, well,

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Speaker 1: this very good morning. No science to it. I take it,

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Speaker 1: just a vibe. It could be sixty, could be seventy,

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Speaker 1: could be eighty two and a half.

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Speaker 2: There could be fifty, could be ninety. We've had quite

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Speaker 2: a bit of feedback from the market and from people

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Speaker 2: who submitted that sixty was a bit small worth going

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Speaker 2: up to seventy just give you a bit more full

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Speaker 2: space and more of a lounge with a couple of bedrooms.

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Speaker 2: So we've done that and it's gone down pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, having said that, a lot of people have texted

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Speaker 1: already this morning, why not a dwelling plus a garage

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Speaker 1: or something similar. I built one. For example, I built

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Speaker 1: a barn with one hundred square meters. I cannot, for

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Speaker 1: the life of me see the difference between one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty or fifty. It's a barn, I built it. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, then you're getting in literally to just building houses, right.

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Speaker 2: So they put the point of the granny flat things

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Speaker 2: to make it really simple for people just to add

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Speaker 2: a bit at sssor dwelling out the back, the little

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Speaker 2: two bedroom unit for older kids or for grandparents, you know,

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Speaker 2: for literally grannies or granddads, or you know a bit

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Speaker 2: of extra optionality at the back. So it's designed to

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Speaker 2: add to house and supply in a low cost way

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Speaker 2: by making sure that you get rid of the resource

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Speaker 2: consent and the building consent requirements to get things underway quickly.

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Speaker 2: Make it easy once you start building set of under

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Speaker 2: in fifty square made of places, you're looking at, you

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Speaker 2: big infrastructure costs, you're looking at basically building houses and subdividing.

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Speaker 1: Does what's your assessment of the risk factor going forward?

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Speaker 1: So I turn up at a house to buy, I

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Speaker 1: see this thing out in the back. I got no

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Speaker 1: clue whether it's any good or not, apart from Bruce

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Speaker 1: who's selling me the house is no mate, I built it,

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Speaker 1: buted what happens?

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Speaker 2: Then it has to be built by licensed building practitioner

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Speaker 2: and you have to be able to prove that. You

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Speaker 2: have to have a certificate of fitness and all of

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Speaker 2: the stuff that goes alongside that. You don't need a

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Speaker 2: resource consent, but you still do need to tell the

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Speaker 2: council that you're doing the work before you do it,

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Speaker 2: and then once it's finished, and then it goes on

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Speaker 2: to what's called a a pit not rather than a limb,

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Speaker 2: so the councilor knows that you've got it, and that's

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Speaker 2: that way they can potentially charge you for infrastructure that

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Speaker 2: an infrastructure charge or development contribution or whatever happens as well.

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Speaker 2: So you don't need a building consent, you don't need

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Speaker 2: a resource consent. It makes it a lot simpler and

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Speaker 2: easier to do, but there are still some requirements. You

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Speaker 2: can't just go around willing nearly allowing people just to

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Speaker 2: chuck up random buildings at the back of their property.

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Speaker 2: You do need to have some oversight.

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Speaker 1: You're in Singapore last week, a small island nation of

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Speaker 1: five million people. Did you get a sense of what could.

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Speaker 2: Be extraordinary place? Isn't it? It really is? And what

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Speaker 2: I like about them is the sense of ambition they've

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Speaker 2: got as a country. They don't want to be poor.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty they were basically a country the size

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Speaker 2: of Lake Taupo, and they were basically shacks and hovels

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Speaker 2: and they decided that they wanted to be wealthy and

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Speaker 2: they went for it. That is the place New Zealand

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Speaker 2: could be if we put our minds to it.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. You should all buys tickets actually to Singapore

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Speaker 1: so we can go and if you haven't been and

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Speaker 1: experience it and you come back, you'll be a changed person.

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Speaker 1: Chris Bishop, the Housing Minister.

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