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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks, that'd be trying to.

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Speaker 2: Hitch up with that. Sustainability expert Kate Hall is here

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Speaker 2: with us this morning. Good morning, nine years, nine years.

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Speaker 2: That is a hell of an achievement. Did you when

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Speaker 2: the date rolled over to twenty twenty six, did you

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Speaker 2: think back to your wedding day and think, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: nine years, that is quite the achievement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it feels like yesterday, but also yeah, definitely

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Speaker 3: we've fit a lot into the last nine years.

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Speaker 2: It feels like yesterday, but also not. Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 2: get that. But you, as we all would expect, approach

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Speaker 2: your wedding with a very in a very Kate hallway,

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Speaker 2: and that you tried to make it as sustainable as possible,

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Speaker 2: because wedding is one of those good examples of things

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Speaker 2: in life where actually there can be a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of consumption for what is ultimately six or eight hours.

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Speaker 3: Yep, No, I definitely. I was kind of like on

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Speaker 3: the cusp of being ethically Kate back then, So there's

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Speaker 3: some things I would have done even more sustainably if

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Speaker 3: I did it all over again in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: But I looked at things with a leans of how

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Speaker 3: can I do this? Secondhand? How can I do this

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Speaker 3: like on a smaller budget. I think doing it more

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Speaker 3: sustainably actually meant we spent a lot less money. And

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Speaker 3: how can I really like vote with my pocket because

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Speaker 3: you know, wedding, you know you're spending quite a bit

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Speaker 3: of money, even if you're doing it on the cheap side,

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Speaker 3: how can I actually use this money to benefit small businesses?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it made for like just much better day.

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Speaker 3: Our friends and family still rave about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh nice, Okay, So run us through some tips

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Speaker 2: then for other people who might be considering a sustainable wedding.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean there's lots of different elements to a wedding

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Speaker 3: after we start with clothing. So my dress was ethically

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Speaker 3: made in India. Though there are lots of beautiful amazings

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Speaker 3: and hand dresses you can get. They are thinking about

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Speaker 3: what you're going to wear. Actually wore some op shop

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Speaker 3: short shorts. Was short shorts and at the wedding day

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Speaker 3: very kind of New Zealand classics, stubby style. And then

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Speaker 3: all of our we didn't have a bridal party. We

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Speaker 3: had a bridal team and we all went up shopping

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Speaker 3: together and they could wear whatever they wanted, you know,

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Speaker 3: because I think the bridle, the bridal party has to

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Speaker 3: spend hundreds of dollars on their else they may not

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Speaker 3: wear again. Just meant everyone felt like they could express

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Speaker 3: who they were as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never I've never this is a personal tasting.

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Speaker 2: I've never really been into the into the bridal party

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Speaker 2: all wearing the same thing. Never, It's never been my

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Speaker 2: cup of tea. But you know, I mean, each each

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Speaker 2: of their own I suppose, and going down the op

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Speaker 2: shopping may like you say, it gives even gives even

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Speaker 2: a bit of a chance to show their own individuality

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Speaker 2: and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And everyone like loved going up shopping. It

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Speaker 3: was it was a fun kind of activity that we

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Speaker 3: all got together. They got to meet each other and

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Speaker 3: get to know each other. So yeah, it was. It

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Speaker 3: was fun to do kind of our our clothing that way.

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Speaker 3: And the rings, my rings were heirlooms. My wedding band

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Speaker 3: was from a mom's side of the family, and engagement

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Speaker 3: ring from my dad's signs and we got Tom's ring

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Speaker 3: made locally. So yep, that was simple and one of

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Speaker 3: my favorite things was the flowers. So the floristry industry

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Speaker 3: can be really damaging to our planet because flowers, you know,

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Speaker 3: out of season, can be grown overseas, grown with pesticides imported. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just not a not a good idea where we have

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Speaker 3: so many flowers we can grow here. And so I know,

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Speaker 3: not everyone can do this, Not everyone has a father

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Speaker 3: as awesome asign. But he converted part of his lawn

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Speaker 3: into a garden and grew some flowers from.

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Speaker 3: I remember walking down holding a bunch of s flowers

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Speaker 3: and spotting a little caterpillar looking me down the aisland

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Speaker 3: this is walking along. So yeah, that was fun and

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Speaker 3: we got little flowers from a sustainable florists that we

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Speaker 3: could know how good to the bunches.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if someone was doing it today, let's start

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Speaker 2: off with the dress, because that's obviously a big focus

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Speaker 2: on the day and rethinking the dress, going second hand,

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Speaker 2: going rented, something like that can be a good option.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think, yeah, rent it is a great idea.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea for all of our

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Speaker 3: formal occasions really, because you're not you like, are not

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Speaker 3: going to wear that dress again, or buying a dress

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Speaker 3: and wearing a dress that you can convert into something

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Speaker 3: that you're going to use you know, another time, or

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, something that isn't just one where I

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Speaker 3: think people can spend you know, like five grand on

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Speaker 3: a wedding dress and where at once net cost per

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Speaker 2: Very extreme, very high extravagant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some o the key things about a sustainable wedding

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Speaker 3: tours if you think about, you know, what goes on

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Speaker 3: the rubbish at the end of the wedding day. Often

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Speaker 3: it is the day court and the food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true, those are the.

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Speaker 3: Two main waste streams I reckon, and so thinking about

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Speaker 3: where is your food waste going to go? So we

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Speaker 3: had a commercial composting service that we had been at

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Speaker 3: our wedding was kind of like per festival in the

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Speaker 3: lawn food trucks and so all of the food waste

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Speaker 3: went there and they could take it away and I

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Speaker 3: knew that it would be composted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nice, that makes a lot of sense, Yeah, because yeah,

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Speaker 2: there can just be obscene amounts left over. I remember

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Speaker 2: at my sister's wedding. Her parents lived just outside of

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Speaker 2: Nelson on a big property and it was at their

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Speaker 2: house and at the end of the night they'd ordered

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Speaker 2: in like literally thirty pizzas, you know, for like midnight

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Speaker 2: after we've been dancing, and it was fair to say

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Speaker 2: there were a few pizzas left over. But one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite activities in the days thereafter was going and

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Speaker 2: opening up these pizza boxes and throwing a whole pizzas

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Speaker 2: to their pigs and watching these pigs get through the pizzas.

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Speaker 2: So I loved it.

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Speaker 3: It was just it was heaven for them pigs and chickens.

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Speaker 3: Great way to get rid.

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Speaker 2: Of to get rid of stuff. So you talked us

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Speaker 2: through the flowers you grew your own, you could I

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Speaker 2: suppose you could have dry flowers as well, right, they're

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Speaker 2: kind of yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then you can actually keep those as daycore around

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Speaker 3: your own house and you know, you can remember the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What about what about like lab grown diamonds and

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Do you feel like that is

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Speaker 2: making the ring side of things a bit more sustainable? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think in some ways, yes, I think we have

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Speaker 3: so many items that already exist, so we've got so

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Speaker 3: like if you go into an antique store, SI can

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Speaker 3: handshop which just has so so much jewelry. So I

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Speaker 3: think like you said. Tim recently gave me a ring

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Speaker 3: for the Bersidel first daughter and it was made from

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Speaker 3: diamonds and gold that were from a state probably there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know that flipped and this lady, she and Melbourne,

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Speaker 3: she takes diamonds and gold and up cycles them and

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Speaker 3: I think that's just yeah, that just makes so much

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Speaker 3: more sense to me to use the materials we already

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Speaker 3: have than we don't even need to make news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes total sense. Hey, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it sounds like even though you weren't in

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Speaker 2: full ethically Kate mode nine years ago, you were still

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Speaker 2: pretty sustainable when it comes to your wedding. Anyone who

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Speaker 2: organizes a commercial compost for afterwards I think we can

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Speaker 2: say has crossed the rubicon. Thank you so much, Kate.

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Speaker 2: We'll put those tips up on the news talks he'd

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Speaker 2: bi website and catch you again very soon. Happy New Year,

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Speaker 2: Yeah to you too. That is k Hale, our sustainability expert.

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Speaker 2: You can find her all the social media platforms, of course,

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Speaker 2: by searching ethically Kate.

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