1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Crackdown on youth offending has been reflected on paper. This morning, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: new Ministry of Justice stats show a nineteen percent increase 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: in the number of young people receiving orders or adult 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: sentences last year. The figures appear to have returned to 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: pre COVID light levels, which may be common sense. Finally, 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: prevailing Blue Light CEO Brendan Compton is with me this morning. 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: Brean, A good morning, Good morning, Ryan. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Is this a good thing? 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think if we just unpack our the youth 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: justice system works. When a young person offends, they go 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: to a family group conference. At their conferences, the family, 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: the offender, hopefully the victim and the kids are lawyer 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: and the police Youth Aid officer. So the police Youth 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Aid officer is the critical part of this stuff in 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: front of you because they are essentially advocating for the 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: community and for the victim of what sentence that young 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: person should get. And so there's all those ranges you 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: can see from supervision of activity, which is a community 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: based program that we specialize in, right through to the 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: supervision with residence, which's only that'simoth three months in their 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: youth residence, which is a youth prison and so if 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: you're getting sixteen and seventeen year olds who have been 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: right through the youth justice system and then are continuing 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: to offend, especially at a high level like ram range, 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: which we're called aggravated robberies, the youth has no choice 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: but to put them up to what we call the 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: district court where they can then get an adult sentence 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: of imprisonment. Really just to keep the community safe. 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Which is what's happening. And that's as you say, I mean, 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: you work with those who are at the lower end 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: of the spectrum, but for those who are repeatedly at 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: the other end, you've got to do something. And clearly 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: they are. 34 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the worldwide, the statistics show that most 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: young people offend will grow out of it their brain 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: the brain brain changes and you become out of it. 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: But there are that sort of five to ten percent, 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: which we call persistent youth offenders, who will offend well 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: into their adult life. And so regardless what programs we 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: deliver at a lower level, they'll just continue on with 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: their offending. And so that's tenth end up in the 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: district court and end up with adult sentences. 43 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Which is what so for that when people say, I 44 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: know all that these people need, these young people need 45 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: is wrap around services upon wraparound services upon wrap around services. 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: Actually that for some kids you can't. There's only so 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: much wrapping you can do. 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and people talk about you know, I've loved it 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: for twenty five years as former police officer and you've 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: justice manager. Is that often people to fault us out. Well, 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: it's about the family and finner which need to support them. Well, 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: for many of our kids, the family funder are the problem. 53 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: They live in chaos, criminality, drugs, violence, family violence. But 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: there's a period of time with their young people and 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: need ben need to be away from their family to 56 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: fix themselves. And at the same time we need to 57 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: work with the family. So there's two different things happening 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: at the same time. 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandon, interesting stuff. Thanks so much for coming on 60 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: the show and for your analysis. Brendan Crompton is the 61 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Blue Lights CEO twenty minutes away from seven on News 62 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Talk set b I am everybody has those numbers. It's 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: a nineteen percent increase in the number of young people 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: receiving orders or adult sentences last year. So that's kids 65 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: who are doing really bad stuff getting the adult service, 66 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: the adult sentences that a lot of people think they deserve. 67 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow 69 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.