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Speaker 1: So go.

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Speaker 2: One of the government's quarterly reports on their targets they

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Speaker 2: set for themselves yesterday one of the areas of concern

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Speaker 2: appears to be this violent crime. So the target is

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Speaker 2: a reduction by twenty thirty or twenty thousand incidents to

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand fewer incidents. The latest number hasn't faked up

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Speaker 2: by thirty thousand. Crime Prevention Group President Sunny courtials were

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Speaker 2: a sunny morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: You finally met? Did you meet and solve the problem?

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Speaker 1: We have introductory meeting and I won't steal a minister's thunder,

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Speaker 1: so he would be making an announcement this week with

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Speaker 1: the more details. But I can tell you why we

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Speaker 1: are going to work on some of the very important

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Speaker 1: pieces on the reforms, including the legislative reforms you know

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Speaker 1: that might include you know, the security guards empowerment and

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Speaker 1: how do you using those face expedition technology and some

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Speaker 1: crimate reforms which need to be done. So you would

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Speaker 1: be hearing quite a lot more from.

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Speaker 2: Us looking forward to it. Should we be worried about this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, thirty thousand up's obviously a problem, but when

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Speaker 2: you're looking to cut it by twenty thousand, and it's

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Speaker 2: by twenty thirty and we're sitting here in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: It's hardly an emergency right here, right now, is.

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Speaker 1: It, Mike. There's no question New Zealand has become more violent.

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Speaker 1: This survey Crime and Victims Survey targets July twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two to July twenty four, which is the last two years.

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Speaker 1: So there's no surprises here what we have witnessed in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, the level of

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Speaker 1: crime that have increased. And also, you know, stopping crime

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Speaker 1: is not difficult, Mike, provided you want to do it.

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Speaker 1: The messes that we are getting the police and the ministers,

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Speaker 1: they want to do it. While it may take time

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Speaker 1: to change, but it need to be dealt with unapologetically

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Speaker 1: and urgently. You know what we have seen recently, for

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Speaker 1: example in Okland CBD. That's my personal experience. I own

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Speaker 1: a business over there. So increased patrolling has shown promising

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Speaker 1: results in up on CBD. Exactivity is getting cleaned up.

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Speaker 1: You know we are going to see more reduction. So

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Speaker 1: change has come. It's coming a ram. Rates are down,

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Speaker 1: but you know there'll be the change in police philosophy,

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Speaker 1: if we have the changes in the legislative, you know,

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Speaker 1: the reforms that would make a whole lot of difference,

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Speaker 1: and that's what is required because the accountability, the consequences

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Speaker 1: that have been missing from years and that's what needed urgently.

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Speaker 2: Seems to be on the same page. Where everyone seems

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Speaker 2: to be on the same page because they're heading to

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Speaker 2: Parliament this week. As I mentioned, Sonny, good to catch

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Speaker 2: up with you appreciate it, Sunny Coscha, the Crime Prevention

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