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Speaker 1: Catherine, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm fine, Thank you mate.

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Speaker 1: Now look, I'll get to Durard in just a couple

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Speaker 1: of moments his court appearance. Let me ask you a

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Speaker 1: couple of things about Turkey. First of all, and this

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Speaker 1: includes X and all of that sort of stuff. Where

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Speaker 1: does Europe think Turkey's going? Are we deeply worried about this?

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Speaker 1: Or is this just more ard one being at.

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Speaker 2: One deeply worried?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: What has been said, particularly in Brussels, where foreign affairs

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Speaker 2: ministers meet regularly and they met just the last few hours,

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Speaker 2: is that Edigan has seen how much back inside the

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Speaker 2: tents that Putin has got that now is the time.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be a good time if you like

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Speaker 2: to be a sort of a dictator. To push aside

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Speaker 2: would be successes. So yeah, it is concerning. Let's not

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Speaker 2: forget Turkey as a member of NATO. The EU opinionion

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Speaker 2: spends a lot of time and a lot of money

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Speaker 2: trying to keep Turkey on side, and for something which

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Speaker 2: they consider to be so illegitimate, such as putting a

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Speaker 2: political opponent in prison and taking away his ability to

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Speaker 2: be able to contest an election. They consider that is

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Speaker 2: beyond the pals, So you're not just closing down social

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Speaker 2: media size making it difficult fever to communicate with one another.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that this basic, fundamental democratic writer is

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Speaker 2: being taken away by an opponent does worry them, and

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Speaker 2: it really is for them a sign that you, Edigan

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Speaker 2: has really got the win that sails after seeing Putin

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Speaker 2: being almost rehabilitated in some parts of the world.

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Speaker 1: And that's before we get to Musk, who's bin suspending

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Speaker 1: a number of accounts. Does the view of Musk in

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Speaker 1: Europe change dramatically now that he's not just expertise Donald's mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everyone is still if you like my

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Speaker 2: recovering and I don't even think actually they're recovering that

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Speaker 2: well from that speech that Vice President Vance made in February.

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Speaker 2: Remember that Munich speech where he accused the EU regulators

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Speaker 2: of being afraid of free speech and forcing content moderation policies.

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Speaker 2: So when it comes to things like Musk and x

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Speaker 2: twitters that used to be known as they really do

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Speaker 2: take a close look at this because, as they rightly say,

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Speaker 2: there has been a big information war. The Russia has

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Speaker 2: been using social media networks to sort of undermine institutions,

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Speaker 2: and that's why you've had remarks such as in the

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Speaker 2: last few hours Romania, the social media regulator there, has said, look,

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Speaker 2: it's not just against Musk, it's against an information more.

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Speaker 2: It's bigger than Musk, but he is part of it,

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Speaker 2: and he's the most obvious part of it. We've had

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Speaker 2: just in the last couple of hours the Belgian Foreign Minister,

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Speaker 2: a big voice in the European Union, saying, look, this

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Speaker 2: just cannot go on. We've already got Musk facing what

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Speaker 2: is that three charges against the EU for digital services,

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Speaker 2: saying that they should be hitting them more. The Belgian

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Speaker 2: FOREGA minister says that big tech is the best option

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Speaker 2: for the European Union to get back at Trump, to

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Speaker 2: get back a mask, to try and make them, as

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Speaker 2: they say, treat European market, which is four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty million people, to treat them differently than they have

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Speaker 2: done so far.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, Gira depadiu Fried Green Tomato is not a

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Speaker 1: bad movie, it seems to me. Yet again it's been

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Speaker 1: coming for ages. This court case. Is he there? How

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Speaker 1: long is it going to take and what happens?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it opened just a few hours ago. He

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Speaker 2: turned up wearing a black suit no tie, came into

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Speaker 2: court a company by his lawyer. He will only have

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Speaker 2: to be in caught for six maximum six hours every day.

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Speaker 2: His doctors have said that's all he's able to sit

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Speaker 2: through because of his diabetes and last year, of course,

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Speaker 2: he had that quadruple bypass surgery. His lawyer says that

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Speaker 2: the allegations against him are false, part of a campaign

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Speaker 2: of slander. Of course, deep Adou faces two cases in

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Speaker 2: this particular court, two allegations of sexual soul by two

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Speaker 2: separate women. This happened during the filming of Green Shutters

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one. But of course it's much

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Speaker 2: bigger than that, because it has always been the allegation

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Speaker 2: that the French cinema industry has protected people like Depardieu

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Speaker 2: from the me Too movement, has covered up. Has said

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Speaker 2: it's all part of being an artist, being an actor,

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Speaker 2: of being a celebrity in France, and that he was

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Speaker 2: just so much of a draw, just this giant of

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Speaker 2: French cinema that the courts, despite having had these allegations

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Speaker 2: come to them before prosecutors putting them forward, that they've

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Speaker 2: shied away from it and that's why. Also today outside

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Speaker 2: the court here in Paris, you saw so many people

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Speaker 2: coming out and demonstrating in support of those who have

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Speaker 2: come forward, those two women, saying that more needs to

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Speaker 2: be done by the film industry to police itself, because

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Speaker 2: in any film set, you've got so many witnesses, so

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Speaker 2: many people see this, but they're all too scared to

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Speaker 2: come forward.

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