1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Jason pine Sports store coasters. If they're now Piney hallo, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Heather Piney. Yes, England thinks they're going to beat the 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: All Blacks? 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Are they Do they think that? Do they think that? 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: That's what they're saying, that's what they're saying. 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Well, I guess there are chants. I don't think their favorite. 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: I don't think any team that comes to New Zealand 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: to play the All Blacks is favorite. 9 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: No. 10 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they've got to get to Dunedin first, so 11 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: I guess they could look if they're going to target 12 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: one the target the first test, wouldn't they They've coming 13 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: off the back of a win over Japan, the All 14 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Blacks are getting together for the first time under a 15 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: new coaching regime, and you know history tells us that 16 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: the first All Blacks test of any year is never perfect. 17 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: So I guess they know they're probably rightfully optimistic. I 18 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: don't think they'll beat the Orbs. I think the All 19 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: Blacks will win. Both test matches are starting this weekend 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: in Dunedin. 21 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Do you reckon it'd be the first case of nerves 22 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: that Raises had in years? 23 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon, I reckon it will all tummy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, look, 24 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: he I was really interested to watch him at the 25 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: All Blacks launched last week. He's clearly very very comfortable 26 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: sort of dealing with the public, but in a more 27 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: formal situation. When he got up on the stage and 28 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: had to sort of give a speech and that sort 29 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: of thing a lot more formal, it was just slightly 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: slightly less Razorlike for me, it was interesting to watch him. 31 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: But then had him on the radio on Saturday, very relaxed, 32 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: shorts and T shirt and yeah, really sort of outlining 33 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: his vision for the year. So yeah, I reckon, he'll 34 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: be nervous. You would be, wouldn't you if a job 35 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: you've wanted your whole life. 36 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: Gate nervous out because everybody was like, yere's the guy. 37 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: You got it, Like we rolled somebody for you. You 38 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: better be good, do you know what I mean? 39 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: That's right. Were already getting calls as well on the show. Look, 40 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about Razor. I quite feel like we 41 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: should give him a chance to have at least one 42 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: gauge before we make any judgment. 43 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Calls, you know, they were in your expectations, so that 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: you can only be surprised on the upside, which I 45 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: quite what about their bicycle kick? 46 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Was that impressive? Yeah? I like that? Yeah, Jude Bellingham. Look, 47 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: they were terrible England this morning, as they have been 48 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: for most of this tournament. They were thirty seconds away 49 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: from going home before Bellingham pulled that out and then 50 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: England got a second goal and they're through to the 51 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: quarter finals. They really have to up their game, if 52 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, if the famous catch cry it's coming home 53 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: is actually going to happen. But yeah, Jue Bellingham, wonderful player, 54 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: terrific goal. They're through. Maybe it doesn't matter how they 55 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: did it, just that they did it. So we'll wait 56 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: and see how they go against Switzerland on Saturday. 57 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: So have you decided that we need to replace Shawan 58 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Johnson with to Mighty Martin Montly? 59 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: I look astounding. 60 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: I just want to lay this out for you. Okay, 61 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: So this is nothing against Sean Johnson, you know at all. 62 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: The guy is a legend. However, there was a slump 63 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: in the season while he was playing. He goes off 64 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: for three weeks to Mighty Martin's in the Space. They 65 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: win three weeks, He comes back for two weeks, they 66 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: lose for two weeks, goes away to Mighty Martin's in 67 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: charge and they win again. I mean that's a pattern. 68 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, it is, and I think one thing we have 69 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: to obviously be aware of here is that Shawn Johnson's 70 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: clearly not one hundred percent fit. They've tried to rush 71 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: him back twice and now they need to wait until 72 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: he is fit. You're dead right about Tom Marty Martin 73 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: in partnership with Janelle Harris Tavita very good. The pair 74 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: of them have played three games together and won all three. 75 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: So clearly we've inadvertently probably landed on the harves combo 76 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: going forward for the Warriors. And it's a very very 77 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: interesting case of player management. When Shawn Johnson is fit, 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: and I say when he is fit, when he's one 79 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: hundred percent fit, does he come straight back in or 80 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: do you stick with what's working for you if indeed 81 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: it continues to work for you. 82 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: This is the conundrum. Aye, Thank you so much, mate, 83 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 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