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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray, UK correspondent with US. Now, Hey, Gevin, hi there,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make you listen to this again.

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Speaker 2: I call again from immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the return

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Speaker 2: of the sausages, the hostages.

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Speaker 1: Givin, how do you how? How how does hostages become sausages?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And what's more, he was quick to

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Speaker 2: spot it. I can only think that he was thinking

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Speaker 2: of dinner. Maybe that's uh, definitely a slip of the

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Speaker 2: tongue in what was supposed to be one of the

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Speaker 2: crucial parts of his speech. It's been something Labour's really

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Speaker 2: been criticized for their stance on Gaza in Israel by

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Speaker 2: some within the party. So perhaps he was anticipating a

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Speaker 2: potential heckler or something. But either way, yeah, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a Freudian slip there.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to define him. It's going to

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Speaker 1: define him. It's going to define his Prime ministership for years, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I think Givin. Other than that, I mean, look serious

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Speaker 1: message in it, but geez, he's boring, isn't he.

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Speaker 2: He's not one of the most I mean, when you

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Speaker 2: compare it with someone like Boris Johnson. He certainly is

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Speaker 2: Boris Johnson used to call him a snooze fest was

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Speaker 2: his name for him. But look, you know he's always said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not the most interesting guy. I'm not the most

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Speaker 2: sort of lively guy. But who do you want to charge?

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Speaker 2: Do you want a politician who's lively but might not

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Speaker 2: be very good or do you want somebody who's going

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Speaker 2: to be good and his earnest and caring, etc. Etc.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of his message. But in today's media,

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Speaker 2: with social media and the media in the news playing

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Speaker 2: such a part in both election and success, he's got

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Speaker 2: some hurdles to climb. And incidentally, his popularity rating in

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Speaker 2: the first ninety days or so of his premiership has

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Speaker 2: really taken a significant hit.

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Speaker 1: Has he done enough to satisfy both sides of the

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Speaker 1: debate on the Gaza situation here?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think, But because I don't think anyone

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Speaker 2: actually could, Labor, particularly I think many in Labor leaning

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Speaker 2: towards supporting ours, are much more They think this government

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Speaker 2: should be much tougher against Israel, and they're wanting to

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Speaker 2: see action, whereas the only action we're now hearing is

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Speaker 2: that overn Id has been saying that he wants some

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Speaker 2: all Britons to get out of Lebanon. It's a clear

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Speaker 2: indication that the government here thinks this is going to

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Speaker 2: get a lot worse before it gets better, with sending

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Speaker 2: seven hundred troops to nearby Cyprus for the possible evacuation

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Speaker 2: of British nationals from Lebanon. I think they're also very aware,

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Speaker 2: of course, about what a mess it was trying to

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Speaker 2: get people out of Afghanistan and car Ball and that

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Speaker 2: is seared in the memory of so many of so

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Speaker 2: saw those awful pictures of people trying to jump on

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Speaker 2: the aircraft as it was taking off, and I think

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Speaker 2: they're just desperate to avoid something like that.

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Speaker 1: Gevin, So you have got the case of a police

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Speaker 1: officer who pulled a SICKI and then actually gets a rested,

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Speaker 1: which feels like I'm a wild overreaction.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think potentially, but I guess you just you know,

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Speaker 2: can't have these things happen. This is an officer from

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Speaker 2: the force in Leicestershire and the Midlands. He reported sick

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Speaker 2: while on arrest day. It was two days before his

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Speaker 2: next shift. But then having reported sick, he virtually flew

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Speaker 2: out to his standbul within a matter of a couple

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Speaker 2: of hours. The Independent Office for Police Conduct said suspicions

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Speaker 2: have been raised when he reported sick. Police were waiting

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Speaker 2: for him when he landed back at Stanstad Airport and

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Speaker 2: arrested him. A disciplinary hearing has ruled that the officer,

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Speaker 2: Rajan Khan would have been dismissed had he still serving,

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Speaker 2: because we now understand he resigned from the force, so

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Speaker 2: it has customed his job. It is something that I

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Speaker 2: know the police are very very keen to stanpout any

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Speaker 2: kind of dishonesty or wrongdoing in order to show that

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Speaker 2: they are fit for the role. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: and overreaction. Some would argue that, but I think his

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Speaker 2: time with the force would have been pretty limited had

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Speaker 2: he not resigned. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, Hey, Gvin as always really appreciated. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you in a couple of days. It's Kevin Gray,

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Speaker 1: are UK correspondent.

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