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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks that Be Rude.

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Speaker 2: Time passes our men in the garden.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, A very good morning to you tricky piece

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Speaker 3: in the garden this morning. Yeah, but first I'm going

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Speaker 3: to deal with some tricky language. I'm sorry. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if you've noticed, but there

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Speaker 3: is an enormous nonsense in the marketing language. Yes, I'll

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Speaker 3: give you an example. We and watch this because this

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Speaker 3: is becoming big and I bet it's going to be controversial.

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Speaker 3: There are these these politicians that talk about we now

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Speaker 3: have an a political ecosystem.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, why it's not an ecosystem, because an ecosystem exactly.

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Speaker 3: But an ecosystem is wonderful. It is collaborative, it's not competitive,

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Speaker 3: it's all the other things. This is what I a

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Speaker 3: you got it yet, And also not only an econo

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Speaker 3: ecosystem political ecosystem, but also things like what we're talking

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Speaker 3: about today, we're talking about bugs. Well, the funny thing

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Speaker 3: is that bugs are a very specific group of insects

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Speaker 3: that are the true bugs, and and all the others

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Speaker 3: are literally invertebrates, you know, the ones without a backbone

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Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. So I thought, let's

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Speaker 3: talk about bugs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, merely bugs in particular. We have Honestly, I

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Speaker 2: just feel like this is the problem with the indoor

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Speaker 2: plant at applace in particular. We are just always fighting

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Speaker 2: the media bugs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mellibug. And so there's two. They're basically similar, scale

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Speaker 3: and sets and media bugs in the same group, and

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Speaker 3: they are a pain in the bumb to actually control,

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Speaker 3: if you like. So let's have a look at that first.

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Speaker 3: So they were they're really nasty things. The first thing

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Speaker 3: they both do, both melli bugs and and and the

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Speaker 3: scale and sects, they stick their their their their watching

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Speaker 3: the call of the things that front to suck up

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Speaker 3: the juices from the plants, from the veins of the

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Speaker 3: leaves and from the plants. And basically what they then

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Speaker 3: do is they poop out the honeyjew the sweet sap, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, is a nice word for the turd

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Speaker 3: in nature. Yeah you know, got it. You have to

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Speaker 3: told you that before anyway, So this is how it works.

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Speaker 3: They get stuff out of the plant and they pop

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Speaker 3: it out as honeydew. And on top of the honeyjew

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Speaker 3: grows a black sooty mold, which is a fungus that

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Speaker 3: actually makes it kind of go away. But it shows

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Speaker 3: you now what you're looking for if you are if

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Speaker 3: you have these problems, if you get a black stuff

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Speaker 3: on the top, it's always a sap sucking bug that

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Speaker 3: does it. There's a couple of few, quite a few

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Speaker 3: of those particular varieties. And so as you said, inside

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Speaker 3: where you are with your house plants, absolutely, but outside,

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Speaker 3: especially in Auckland with its nice relative humidity, you get

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Speaker 3: heaps of them too, and it is really a pain

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Speaker 3: in the bum to get rid of. Yeah, so here

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Speaker 3: we go. What do you do? You use materials that

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Speaker 3: are systemic, if you like, and that you can use.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. Grow Ventive is a really

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Speaker 3: good material, but if you read the label you say

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Speaker 3: you cannot be used. You can be using that on

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Speaker 3: edible crops because it's not very good for us to

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Speaker 3: eat something that has been sprayed with grow ventive. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is a really important one. Then you have the

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Speaker 3: famous kneem oil we quite often talk about.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I've got any oil at our place. That's what

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Speaker 2: we do.

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Speaker 3: I know you do. And conquerer oil, which is a

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Speaker 3: similar sort of thing, and here comes the thing and

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Speaker 3: you see it on those photos that are sent to Libby.

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Speaker 3: If you've got very young meai bugs or very young

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Speaker 3: scale insects, it takes time for them to grow, and

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Speaker 3: when they lay their eggs, the babies come out literally

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Speaker 3: not that long after. And that means you have to

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Speaker 3: reapply that particular material said I mentioned, to grow ventive

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Speaker 3: in the Conqueror on anymore, say every week, maybe every

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Speaker 3: ten days or so. And if you do that consistently,

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Speaker 3: you can do it, mate, you can.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like we've been fighting a

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Speaker 2: fight that's lasted a lot longer than ten days at

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Speaker 2: our place. Road. It's like whack them hole with the

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Speaker 2: merely bugs at our place. But like you say, you've

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Speaker 2: just got to be fastidious. Hey, thank you, sir. Have

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Speaker 2: every weekend. Catching in very soon.

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