1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Telco One New Zealand has cut its contract with an 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: actor in its most recent campaign over the protests outside 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: Winston Peter's house. Now the actor is Acacia O'Connor, who 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: shared Winston Peter's address online and who stood next to 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Chloe Swarbrick of the Greens at a press conference yesterday. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: One of the windows on the Foreign Minister's property was 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: smashed last night. So let's talk to Akesha O'Connor high, 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Acacia tan arquare heav do you know the person who 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: broke Winston's window? 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: No, no, I've seen a photo and none of our 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: group seems to know who he is. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: So not connected to your your gaza protest, not connected 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: at all. Okay, do you think, given what has now happened, 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: but just you know the fact of protesting outside his house, 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: that you were wrong to protest outside his house and 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: share his address? H you know? 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: I actually no, I don't think so. So it is 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: New Zealander's legal right to protest. And yeah, there was 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: a bill that was went through yesterday to try to 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: change that, of course, to be out of protest in 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: residential areas. But at this point when we when we 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: were there on the day that our friends were illegally 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: kidnapped by Israel. It was that was perfectly legal. The 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: cops were there and they were very actually quite supportive 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: of us and I sharing we were on. Yeah, oh yeah, 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: I was just into that. Yes, I was just saying, yes, 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: I shared the street that we were on to come 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: and join us for a peaceful protest. 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, taking you guys at your word, what has 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: happened is you've you've shared his address out there and 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: and we now have somebody who's crowbarred his window, right, 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: So was that a wise idea? 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: I was really I was really sorry to hear about that. 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: I was really sorry to hear about that, for sure. 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: How many times have you been outside his house protesting? 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: That was the first time I've been down there. 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: Actually, what about other guard protesters? 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: There's been other protests outside Winston's house over the last 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: few years at various things. When Ruffia was first invaded, 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: there was a protest outside his house as well as 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: other kind of significant dates that people were worth saying, 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: is this how. 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Many times do you? 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, Actually I couldn't. I couldn't give you 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: a number. 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: What's the late have any of them been after dark. 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: Probably, I would say so I in winter, I would imagine, So. 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: What's the latest? 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: So we were there from six thirty ish till ten? 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that's appropriate mine? 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Well, as we said to the cops, and they agreed 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: with us that it's the We were aware of school 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: holidays because we have children, and we had some children 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: with us as well, and we were singing and we 55 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: were chanting and the noise control. When the noise control 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: asked us to quiet down, we quiet and down and 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: we left it ten, which they said was a reasonable 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: time for you. 59 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: That there will be some occasions, And I know for 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: a fact there have been some occasions where you guys, 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: not just you obviously, but the group have been outside 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: his house and the only person inside his house is 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: his partner, who is a woman by herself. Can you 64 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: imagine how intimidating that is? 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: I really can, and I I am just hoping that 66 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: he can also. 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: This is our last resort. 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: Do you know? 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: We have tried to email and call and do the 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: protests in public spaces and tell. 71 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: Me, tell me you're thinking here, Acacia, you've got a 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: woman in her what I don't know, late sixties early 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: mid seventies. Who is by herself in the house, Who's 74 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: going to do what? Call her partner and be like, oh, listen, 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: these guys want you to, you know, take a diplomamatic 76 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: standard like that's illogical. You're just scaring a woman. 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: I don't see it that way. We were not being 78 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: threatening and. 79 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: You don't think so. You don't think there have been 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: occasions where paint has been poured on their patio. You 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: don't think that that's scary. 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually have been more involved with the global 83 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: movement to Gaza, which has been a newer and newer 84 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: I've been a newer joining of all of this, so 85 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: I actually haven't I don't know about about these occasions. 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: But what about like what about the other kids at school, 87 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: holidays or not? Kids go to bed, you know yourself, 88 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: if they are under the age of flip, I mean nine, 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: they're going to bed at seven at night. So for 90 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: three hours, you're disrupting neighborhood kids. 91 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. We, as I said before, we were singing, and 92 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: we did keep the noise to a to a level 93 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: that we was deemed appropriate by the cops and had 94 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: loud hailers control and at the very beginning we had 95 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: loud Hale's while the sun was still up, as you 96 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: said before, and then we changed it to to singing 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: and to to we even the mood was full of 98 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: love and my love. Love. 99 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Love is clearly bloody subjective in this case. I don't 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: think the jan on the inside is going to feel 101 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: like these love coming tell me that this is the 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: last time it's going to happen. 103 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: Acacia, Well, I don't. I am not an authority on that, 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: but the Global Movement to Gaza we are a peaceful, 105 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: a peaceful group and we. 106 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Well, just so that you understand what it looks like 107 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: from the other side, you do not look peaceful. You 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: look like you're trying to scare people. Yeah, and where 109 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: maybe you guys. 110 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: Need to go and taking for peace. We are fighting 111 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: for Winston Peter's house. I'm so sorry to hear that 112 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: it had a stone go through it, But we're here 113 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: trying to ask him to extend the right of a 114 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: safe home to Palestinians whose homes are being bombed every 115 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: day indiscriminately not appropriate. 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: It doesn't make it appropriate, man, Just because there is 117 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: some crime going on on the other side of the world, 118 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: which absolutely is upsetting so many of us who are mums. 119 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: Does not make it appropriate for you to start harassing 120 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: people in this country now. So I'm taking it from 121 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: what you've said. It's not going to be the last time? 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Is that right? 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: I imagine? I imagine not. But I, like I said, I 124 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: don't have anything to do with you. 125 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: You realize that you are going to force the opposition 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: in Parliament to vote for that piece of legislation that 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: you don't want, because they're going to have to vote 128 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: for it, now. 129 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: Cletely well, I feel I can see that they are 130 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: trying to take the rights of protesters away. 131 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I'm okay with that in this case. 132 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: Do you not think most people will be okay with that? 133 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about most people, but 134 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 2: I'm at the point where I'd be willing to beg 135 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: to sit at Winston Peter's feet and beg for him 136 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: to take a stand for Palestine occasion. 137 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: Nobody all the other Acacia, Nobody is gonna, Nobody is 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: gonna is going to criticize you for your position on Gaza. 139 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: We most of us feel like that it's the way 140 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: that you're doing it listen very quickly. 141 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: Have you had to hear that most of you feel 142 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: that way? 143 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: You just pull your head in on this action, man, 144 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: it's inappropriate. Quick quickly tell me have you heard from 145 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: One New Zealand about cutting you out of the ads? 146 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 147 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: I have, Yes, I have? 148 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: And what do they cut the contract? Have they? 149 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: Yes? The contract has been cut. Yeah, as they are 150 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: choosing profit other people. 151 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: All right, Akasha, thanks very much, really appreciate your time. 152 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Acacia O'Connor, Gaza activist and protester who shared Winston Peter's 153 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: address online. 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