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Speaker 2: This week on The Big League Podcast, Warriors hooker Wade

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Speaker 2: Egan reacts to that try by lecqua halla Seima and

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Speaker 2: give some insight as to what went wrong in the

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Speaker 2: nail biting victory over the Knights in Newcastle. Michael Burgers

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Speaker 2: and I will give out two cents. What can be

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Speaker 2: done about the warriors abysmal right wing defense and they

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Speaker 2: surely surely can't lose to the Titans.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nathan Limb. Let's go b LB. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I've just been through a washing machine. That

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Speaker 2: was one of the most outrageous finishers you will ever

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Speaker 2: see to a Warriors game. They were done, they were

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Speaker 2: dead and buried. They were so far gone. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have blamed you for turning off the tally. Three mifth

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Speaker 2: field goals, one missed penalty, some dreadful edge defense. The

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Speaker 2: Warriors shouldn't have won that, and quite frankly they didn't

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Speaker 2: deserve to. But then Lecquahalaesima grabs the charge down deflection

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Speaker 2: runs forty meters, evades six defenders and crashes over for

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Speaker 2: the match winning try in the final seconds. I feel

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Speaker 2: so sorry for my pregnant Landlords, who I happened to

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Speaker 2: share a war with, because I was screaming at the TV,

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Speaker 2: just like I'm sure you were as well. Michael Burgess,

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Speaker 2: Senior New Zealand Herald Ride up. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: stuck into the myriad of issues that came out of

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Speaker 2: this game for the Warriors, But first, let's start with

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Speaker 2: that finish.

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Speaker 4: Were you screaming at the TV? No, No, I wasn't.

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Speaker 4: I was. I was in shock.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 4: Just a complete, incomplete, stunned shock. You know, I'd written

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Speaker 4: my story. I'd written my story talking about how this

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Speaker 4: defeat is going to hurt so much, how it was

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Speaker 4: probably the worst defeat of the season, given the circumstances.

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Speaker 5: The story is written, I was about to send it.

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Speaker 4: It was all over, and as you say, the Warriors

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Speaker 4: had lost that game three or four times already, and

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Speaker 4: then that is I mean, we've been discussing it in

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Speaker 4: the office this morning. I was thinking about it last night.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the craziest finishes I've ever seen. Covering

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Speaker 4: the Warriors. It's one of the craziest finishes the Warriors

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Speaker 4: have ever had in thirty years.

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Speaker 5: Just things like that just don't happen.

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Speaker 4: They just do not happen until they happen, and then

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Speaker 4: you're trying to work out for the next three or

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Speaker 4: four days how it happened. And I'm sure every Warriors

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Speaker 4: fan out there will be watching the replay of that

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Speaker 4: the last ten seconds probably fifty times one percent.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you're going through those final minutes and

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Speaker 2: Tenna's just missed a second field goal. He missed the

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Speaker 2: penalty from thirty five meters out, which was it wasn't

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Speaker 2: that you know it's not going to happen because they

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Speaker 2: were setting up for that final field goal and he

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Speaker 2: was like forty five meters out and you think, there's

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Speaker 2: There is no way he kicks this, and he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: makes the gap up the field and you're thinking, hang on,

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Speaker 2: hang on a second. I still didn't think he was

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Speaker 2: too far out. But Hala SEMA's footwork the left foot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still hard to comprehend how it happened. There

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Speaker 4: were like three or four miracles within those last seven

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Speaker 4: There's three seconds to go. He's forty two forty three

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Speaker 5: You know, for me that one of the keys was

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Speaker 4: Just boom took off those first five meters, which they

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Speaker 5: I looked at it again last night.

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Speaker 4: He is eight meters out, Bradman Best jumps on his back,

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Speaker 4: so he's you know, he's jumping on him like a

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Speaker 4: bloody like a bloody line jumps on an antelope, trying

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Speaker 4: again has the presence of mind to just say, I'll

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Speaker 4: try throwing the ball backwards over his head or something else.

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Speaker 4: Just incredible from a nineteen year old. The physical gifts

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Speaker 5: It's just amazing.

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Speaker 2: Coach Andrew Webster spoke about Leka obviously after the game,

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Speaker 2: and in typical fashion, he didn't point to Leckus Try

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Speaker 2: pointed to Hallaesima's defense, which included a try saving tackle

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Speaker 6: He's his toughest critic around his defense.

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Speaker 5: He works really hard at it.

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Speaker 6: He's got a long way to go with it. We

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Speaker 6: all celebrate the one at the end, but he's got

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Speaker 6: some other brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Stuff in him.

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Speaker 2: Now, up next we are going to hear the perspective

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Speaker 2: of Warriors hooker Wade Egan on all of this. But first,

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Speaker 2: here are the highlights Warriors twenty Nights fifteen. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: love this. Sunday afternoon. Footing on nine void.

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Speaker 3: Now Ah Chase is on and Toppy scores again against

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Speaker 3: Newcastle to kick towards Dom Young the two meter giants

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Speaker 2: Up, he goes off hands.

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Speaker 3: It's there for hunts and.

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Speaker 2: The Knights hit back.

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Speaker 5: Ruined to move Dag Guy best quick hands.

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Speaker 3: Marsha holds on this time, so does Kate well Oh.

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Speaker 3: Passing off the ground. There isn't it now? He says,

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Speaker 5: And now the.

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Speaker 2: Knights lead quick hands Marsho. Surely this time they're.

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Speaker 4: Flying the Knights every time they bring the ball left

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Speaker 3: Ah By longer targeted Mshew and got the better of

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Speaker 3: scores in Makok is going to have a crag.

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Speaker 2: It's traveling. It's traveling. It's over or is it?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's over the crossbyve Chus. But it's a shot

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Speaker 3: at goal from almost directly in front to snatch victory,

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Speaker 3: chance to put the Warriors in front. It's hooking, it's

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Speaker 3: waved away. Can you get this run away? Shuts down?

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Speaker 3: It ricochet space here, look at it, go Halla, Sena.

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Speaker 2: It's on foot back try save up piece with my time?

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Speaker 3: Oh Waca, how the sea for the Warriors.

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Speaker 7: Can you believe what you have just seen? No?

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't believe it. My audio Curtesy of

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Speaker 2: Channel nine The.

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Speaker 5: Big League podcast.

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Speaker 2: Michael Burgess got a quick chat with Warriors hooker White

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Speaker 2: Eagan after full time. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: That's a crazy night. It's a crazy finish.

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Speaker 7: Yeah it was crazy mate. Yeah we the poet didn't

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Speaker 7: deserve to win it, but you know, anytime you get

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Speaker 7: when you get the borderleck over with a bit of space, mate.

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Speaker 7: He can do special things. And yeah, he done that.

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Speaker 4: You've been around long time, you know, in the NRL,

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Speaker 4: but I can't imagine you've seen too many more remarkable

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Speaker 7: I don't think, so that's I don't believe. I was

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Speaker 7: I think I've seen for quite Yeah, I just gloody.

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Speaker 4: It's funny you say that because the camera pant to

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Speaker 4: you in your face, you just looked like you didn't know.

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Speaker 5: What was going on.

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Speaker 7: I honestly didn't. I couldn't believe it. They Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: had a few of those things happened to me over

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Speaker 4: Did you realize it was only like six or seven

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's wine. That's why I went there.

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Speaker 7: We tried to field goal. I think it was a

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Speaker 4: As soon as you say, you're probably lucky to win it,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's very good mate. I was pretty well happy

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Speaker 7: with the with the performance. Nice nice made a pretic

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Speaker 7: good round. I thought it's might be fair though it's

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Speaker 7: we probably too many errors, I think now our own

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Speaker 7: Ah, we just went back to our game for them,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he wants, he wants to take those moments and

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Speaker 7: So we'll keep backing him. I thought I thought he

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Speaker 5: So just a couple more ways if that's okay.

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Speaker 4: One nights like this, when this happens and it's something

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Speaker 4: Comes to you know, ice reporters love cloches and what

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Big League Podcast on the Worries Bad Wagons

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Speaker 1: This is the Big League Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic to hear from Waite Egan there, great work Burds

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Speaker 4: I loved that comment that that Eagan admitted he didn't

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Speaker 6: The way that we kept fighting and kept going after

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Speaker 2: blame Andrew Webster at all in terms of having I

435
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Speaker 2: called for cape Well to be on that edge last podcast.

436
00:19:54,493 --> 00:19:57,573
Speaker 2: I thought he was the best option they're given his

437
00:19:57,653 --> 00:20:01,733
Speaker 2: experience to be able to support Dallen. And I think

438
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Speaker 2: the fact that if he was carrying that sort of injury,

439
00:20:04,973 --> 00:20:07,093
Speaker 2: which I'm not sure if we got clarity on what

440
00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:09,733
Speaker 2: exactly that was, if he was carrying an injury, that

441
00:20:09,853 --> 00:20:13,573
Speaker 2: definitely would have hindered him. And if he can get

442
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Speaker 2: over that, I still would probably want him there next week.

443
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Speaker 2: It's just that performance just wasn't good enough.

444
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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see what they do.

445
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Speaker 2: I mean.

446
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Speaker 4: The other school of thought is when does Ali la

447
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Speaker 4: Tala come back because he's a specialist center and coming

448
00:20:28,533 --> 00:20:32,573
Speaker 4: up to the finals, you really want your specialists. What else, though,

449
00:20:32,693 --> 00:20:34,493
Speaker 4: what else have you got? I guess there's a lot

450
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Speaker 4: more from the game?

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tanner Boyd was my next point because I feel

452
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Speaker 2: like this is the sort of situation where he will

453
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Speaker 2: cop a lot of crap from the fans this week.

454
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Speaker 2: Given the finish, the three missed field goals, the miss penalty,

455
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Speaker 2: I was really impressed with him. I thought he played

456
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Speaker 2: really really well. Yes, he missed those field goals and

457
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Speaker 2: late penalty, but it took balls to keep attempting it

458
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Speaker 2: after he'd muffed those. This is only his second game

459
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Speaker 2: at half back for the club, but he never shied

460
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Speaker 2: away from it. Even from forty five meters out with

461
00:21:03,813 --> 00:21:06,413
Speaker 2: three seconds on the clock, he still wanted the ball

462
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Speaker 2: in his hands. He still wanted to be the player

463
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Speaker 2: taking that chance and I like that. But like Wade

464
00:21:12,173 --> 00:21:15,133
Speaker 2: Egan said, I thought he was superb. But his general

465
00:21:15,173 --> 00:21:19,893
Speaker 2: play kicking was pinpoint, perfectly dropping bombs just before the

466
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Speaker 2: try line, even when they were sort of forty meters out,

467
00:21:22,173 --> 00:21:24,173
Speaker 2: he was still landing them in between the try line

468
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Speaker 2: and the ten and the Knights were under pressure whenever

469
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Speaker 2: they are taking those cacks. He was had a nicely

470
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Speaker 2: way to grub a kick into the Knight's end goal

471
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Speaker 2: at a pump. He scores the first try. That stuff

472
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Speaker 2: is not easy to do, and Boyd, from what I've

473
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Speaker 2: seen so far, is ruthlessly consistent with it.

474
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't say he was superb or had really

475
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Speaker 4: strong game. I think that's been quite nice. But on

476
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Speaker 4: the other hand, I will agree with you as I

477
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Speaker 4: like to do that he's going to cop a lot

478
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Speaker 4: of criticism, and a lot of it is unwarranted because

479
00:21:54,733 --> 00:21:56,653
Speaker 4: he should never have been in the situation or having

480
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Speaker 4: a kick a penalty at the end, or having a

481
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Speaker 4: kick a feel golt. The and the Warriors are so

482
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Speaker 4: dominant in that first twenty minutes, they should have been

483
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Speaker 4: further ahead. There are a couple of calls that went

484
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Speaker 4: against them, which we have to get to as well.

485
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Speaker 4: So so much as on his shoulders, and you're exactly right.

486
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Speaker 4: You could sort of see in his eyes he wasn't

487
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Speaker 4: that confident lining up that penalty. He wasn't set properly

488
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Speaker 4: for that field goal. The first one from a distance,

489
00:22:19,133 --> 00:22:20,613
Speaker 4: the one he should have got, was the one close

490
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Speaker 4: to the post with about seven minutes to go. Where

491
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Speaker 4: he put it, Why that was that was the really

492
00:22:24,173 --> 00:22:26,453
Speaker 4: unfortunate one. But it is only a second game. He

493
00:22:26,493 --> 00:22:29,733
Speaker 4: would have had so much going through his head. And what

494
00:22:29,813 --> 00:22:32,373
Speaker 4: I do like is that that'll be good for him.

495
00:22:32,853 --> 00:22:34,853
Speaker 4: That's that one out of the way, and now he

496
00:22:34,893 --> 00:22:37,573
Speaker 4: can move on. He'll be much better for that experience.

497
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Speaker 4: He'll be relieved that Leka saved, you know, because he's

498
00:22:41,333 --> 00:22:43,253
Speaker 4: still the half back. It is his job. He's the

499
00:22:43,293 --> 00:22:45,733
Speaker 4: goal kicker, he's the half back. He's I take your point.

500
00:22:45,773 --> 00:22:48,213
Speaker 4: He was stepping up, but that penalty, you know, you

501
00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:50,173
Speaker 4: got to hit it cleaner, and you could see his reaction.

502
00:22:50,253 --> 00:22:52,293
Speaker 4: He knew he sort of hooked it like like one

503
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Speaker 4: of my golf shots.

504
00:22:54,933 --> 00:22:56,693
Speaker 5: But his organization was still pretty good.

505
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Speaker 4: You're right about his kicking game, the way he can

506
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Speaker 4: land it just before the try line. So we can't

507
00:23:02,453 --> 00:23:04,133
Speaker 4: undo what was saying about him last week. He was

508
00:23:04,173 --> 00:23:06,293
Speaker 4: really good last week and there's still a good basis.

509
00:23:06,933 --> 00:23:09,333
Speaker 4: It was just just a furnace to be in. There's

510
00:23:09,373 --> 00:23:10,333
Speaker 4: last three or four minutes.

511
00:23:10,813 --> 00:23:13,253
Speaker 2: It was a furnace. And Andrew Webster has welcomed how

512
00:23:13,293 --> 00:23:15,013
Speaker 2: Boyd faced the challenge.

513
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Speaker 5: Lots of halves.

514
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Speaker 6: They're going to be in that situation where you've got

515
00:23:18,013 --> 00:23:19,773
Speaker 6: to have the big moment at the end. But he

516
00:23:19,853 --> 00:23:21,453
Speaker 6: just wanted to keep having a crack at it, which

517
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Speaker 6: is the best sign.

518
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Speaker 5: He didn't hide and you wanted to keep going.

519
00:23:24,413 --> 00:23:26,453
Speaker 2: Now, there were a couple of controversial incidents burst It

520
00:23:26,493 --> 00:23:29,333
Speaker 2: will just touch on quickly. The first one Wade Egan.

521
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Speaker 2: Did he score that try because it looked at full

522
00:23:31,853 --> 00:23:35,253
Speaker 2: speed like momentum just carried him over. Obviously, they ruled

523
00:23:35,293 --> 00:23:37,733
Speaker 2: that his arm carrying the ball touched the ground and

524
00:23:37,733 --> 00:23:39,973
Speaker 2: therefore he can't reach out. What was your take on it,

525
00:23:40,013 --> 00:23:42,733
Speaker 2: because I did understand where the bunker was coming from.

526
00:23:42,773 --> 00:23:44,973
Speaker 5: There, Oh, you understand where the bunk is coming from.

527
00:23:44,973 --> 00:23:47,133
Speaker 4: But this is the problem of slowing things right down

528
00:23:47,773 --> 00:23:50,693
Speaker 4: versus common sense, like when you see it when you

529
00:23:50,733 --> 00:23:53,493
Speaker 4: see it in full speed, and even the replays straight after,

530
00:23:53,693 --> 00:23:55,973
Speaker 4: the commentators didn't even consider double movement. It was just

531
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Speaker 4: for me, just he just squeezed over because momentum took

532
00:23:59,613 --> 00:24:02,893
Speaker 4: him over. And that's what Andrew Roberson was so frustrated

533
00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:04,973
Speaker 4: after the game. We all know what a double movement is.

534
00:24:05,013 --> 00:24:07,653
Speaker 4: You know, double movement as you hit the ground bomb

535
00:24:07,893 --> 00:24:09,893
Speaker 4: and then you sort of get up again and stop

536
00:24:09,933 --> 00:24:12,093
Speaker 4: and you reach out, you know, but he didn't even

537
00:24:12,093 --> 00:24:12,773
Speaker 4: need to reach out.

538
00:24:12,893 --> 00:24:14,133
Speaker 5: You sort of bom so.

539
00:24:14,693 --> 00:24:16,653
Speaker 4: And that was quite a flash point because that was

540
00:24:17,213 --> 00:24:20,013
Speaker 4: that was twelve nil and they get the ball back instead.

541
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Speaker 4: Straight after that, jackson Ford got pinged at the play

542
00:24:23,093 --> 00:24:25,413
Speaker 4: the ball, Knights went downfield and scored a try with

543
00:24:25,493 --> 00:24:28,173
Speaker 4: that rebound. So that's one flash point and the other one,

544
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Speaker 4: which we're coming to, is the night's second try when

545
00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:35,373
Speaker 4: Greg Marzu had three players on top of him. Okay,

546
00:24:35,373 --> 00:24:37,453
Speaker 4: his arm wasn't touching the ground, but three players on

547
00:24:37,493 --> 00:24:40,213
Speaker 4: top of him and gets the ball inside to gag guy.

548
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Speaker 5: I thought.

549
00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:43,613
Speaker 4: Andrew Wibster summed it up really well after the match.

550
00:24:43,813 --> 00:24:46,293
Speaker 4: He said said, is this league or union sort of thing?

551
00:24:46,293 --> 00:24:48,173
Speaker 4: You see in union where you can pass off the ground,

552
00:24:48,173 --> 00:24:51,213
Speaker 4: but in league generally you tackled a couple of players

553
00:24:51,213 --> 00:24:52,653
Speaker 4: on him, you can't pass off the ground.

554
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Speaker 5: I don't know what you thought, but I didn't mind it.

555
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Speaker 4: The ref interpreted himself and the bunker didn't look at it,

556
00:24:57,693 --> 00:24:58,373
Speaker 4: so that's cool.

557
00:24:58,733 --> 00:25:00,693
Speaker 5: But it was a bit of a stretch.

558
00:25:00,893 --> 00:25:04,453
Speaker 2: Well. We even heard the commentators were questioning it. There's

559
00:25:04,493 --> 00:25:08,973
Speaker 2: Channel nine commentators there. I understand the ruling because you're right,

560
00:25:08,973 --> 00:25:10,973
Speaker 2: his arm had carrying the ball, hadn't touched the ground.

561
00:25:11,173 --> 00:25:13,533
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I felt like the tackle

562
00:25:13,613 --> 00:25:15,613
Speaker 2: was complete, like he chopped the ground and there was

563
00:25:15,653 --> 00:25:18,133
Speaker 2: a moment where it paused and then he flicked the

564
00:25:18,133 --> 00:25:21,053
Speaker 2: ball up. So that was my issue with it. I

565
00:25:21,093 --> 00:25:23,253
Speaker 2: think if the Warriors hadn't ended up winning, this would

566
00:25:23,293 --> 00:25:26,813
Speaker 2: be a much much stronger talking point. But again, it's

567
00:25:26,853 --> 00:25:28,613
Speaker 2: just that sort of gray area. And with both of

568
00:25:28,613 --> 00:25:31,973
Speaker 2: these issues, there's a little gray area around the interpretation

569
00:25:32,413 --> 00:25:34,173
Speaker 2: and how fast you go back and look at it,

570
00:25:34,493 --> 00:25:37,653
Speaker 2: and how much the plane needs to actually stop before

571
00:25:37,693 --> 00:25:40,133
Speaker 2: it's considered. It goes into double movement territory, or you

572
00:25:40,493 --> 00:25:42,773
Speaker 2: can or you can't flick an offload off the ground.

573
00:25:42,813 --> 00:25:44,413
Speaker 2: But for me, the tackle was complete.

574
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And let's be clear though, Let's be clear, the

575
00:25:46,493 --> 00:25:50,693
Speaker 4: Knights were still the better team. The Knights still deserved

576
00:25:50,733 --> 00:25:53,093
Speaker 4: the wind. So that's one of those things. Those two

577
00:25:53,133 --> 00:25:56,253
Speaker 4: incidents changed the momentum. But a Warriors team that's a

578
00:25:56,293 --> 00:26:00,613
Speaker 4: top four team can't let those things affect them as

579
00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:03,573
Speaker 4: much as it did. And the Nights, Yeah, they were

580
00:26:04,733 --> 00:26:06,213
Speaker 4: in a way they were robbed, weren't they in a

581
00:26:06,213 --> 00:26:08,573
Speaker 4: way they were robbed and just very quickly on the

582
00:26:08,573 --> 00:26:11,653
Speaker 4: Warriors attack. Just in that first twenty minutes. The Warriors

583
00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:14,253
Speaker 4: were just camped in the Nights twenty and I thought,

584
00:26:15,173 --> 00:26:17,533
Speaker 4: you know, you felt like they should have scored at

585
00:26:17,693 --> 00:26:20,173
Speaker 4: least one more try than they did. They should have

586
00:26:20,173 --> 00:26:23,053
Speaker 4: had a been out twelve nil eighteen mel given the

587
00:26:23,053 --> 00:26:23,733
Speaker 4: dominance in.

588
00:26:23,693 --> 00:26:26,733
Speaker 2: That early period. But I don't want to actually, I

589
00:26:26,733 --> 00:26:28,453
Speaker 2: don't want to blame the Warriors attack here. I thought

590
00:26:28,493 --> 00:26:30,813
Speaker 2: Tanner Boyd was steering them pretty well. Those cats he

591
00:26:30,893 --> 00:26:34,013
Speaker 2: was putting up were very contestable. Yes, Dylan wats in

592
00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:36,653
Speaker 2: his Olesniak dropped a couple of those high balls when

593
00:26:36,653 --> 00:26:37,933
Speaker 2: there was a chance for him to just catch it

594
00:26:37,973 --> 00:26:40,973
Speaker 2: and fall on the line. But I thought Newcastle's defense

595
00:26:41,053 --> 00:26:41,693
Speaker 2: was incredible.

596
00:26:42,253 --> 00:26:42,853
Speaker 5: It was amazing.

597
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,053
Speaker 4: It was one of the best stretches of defense I've

598
00:26:45,093 --> 00:26:47,133
Speaker 4: seen this season. I mean it summed up by the

599
00:26:47,133 --> 00:26:52,533
Speaker 4: fact that at halftime the Warriors that had thirty tackles

600
00:26:52,573 --> 00:26:54,693
Speaker 4: I'm sure this is right, thirty tackles in the opposition

601
00:26:54,733 --> 00:26:58,133
Speaker 4: red zone. You never see that. And at the score

602
00:26:58,933 --> 00:27:02,333
Speaker 4: not only scored one try. So it was crazy. Knights

603
00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:05,213
Speaker 4: were defending. Felt like the Knights, it was like their

604
00:27:05,253 --> 00:27:06,093
Speaker 4: biggest game of the year.

605
00:27:06,093 --> 00:27:06,733
Speaker 5: They were amazing.

606
00:27:07,453 --> 00:27:10,653
Speaker 4: But the Warriors were but lateral. They were a little

607
00:27:10,693 --> 00:27:13,573
Speaker 4: bit east to west instead of going north first, you know,

608
00:27:13,653 --> 00:27:16,693
Speaker 4: and it felt like when they're really good, they punched

609
00:27:16,693 --> 00:27:18,613
Speaker 4: through a bit more and then go wide. But there's

610
00:27:18,653 --> 00:27:22,853
Speaker 4: a little bit of going white early, and that did

611
00:27:24,013 --> 00:27:25,693
Speaker 4: limit the effectiveness of what they were trying to do.

612
00:27:26,733 --> 00:27:29,173
Speaker 2: Now, we like to hold ourselves accountable on the Big

613
00:27:29,253 --> 00:27:32,933
Speaker 2: League podcast, and this week, unfortunately it is my turn.

614
00:27:32,973 --> 00:27:35,773
Speaker 5: When's he going to listen to me? When I might

615
00:27:35,773 --> 00:27:37,373
Speaker 5: have been eighty two episodes.

616
00:27:37,013 --> 00:27:39,653
Speaker 2: I might have been a little bit eighty one episodes.

617
00:27:39,933 --> 00:27:42,293
Speaker 2: I might have been a little bit confident about the

618
00:27:42,293 --> 00:27:48,893
Speaker 2: warriors chances last week. They're also without Klein Ponger. The

619
00:27:48,973 --> 00:27:51,653
Speaker 2: Warriors are going to absolutely steamroll and merge.

620
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Speaker 4: I don't see any way out for the nights here.

621
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Speaker 4: Don't get too carried away. Don't think it's going to

622
00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:58,493
Speaker 4: be easy. It's not going to be easy. Is going

623
00:27:58,533 --> 00:28:03,413
Speaker 4: to win by thirty It was a bit arrogant. Yeah,

624
00:28:03,413 --> 00:28:07,653
Speaker 4: you're a bit complacent, and good on you for bringing

625
00:28:07,653 --> 00:28:09,813
Speaker 4: it back there on you for finding that clip and

626
00:28:10,093 --> 00:28:13,493
Speaker 4: owning your owning your mistake and look, we all live

627
00:28:13,493 --> 00:28:16,693
Speaker 4: and learn. And after eighty one episodes, maybe you might

628
00:28:16,733 --> 00:28:19,493
Speaker 4: go home today and talk to you for that man

629
00:28:19,573 --> 00:28:21,733
Speaker 4: to say, Actually, I'm going to start listening to Michael

630
00:28:21,733 --> 00:28:24,133
Speaker 4: Burgess a bit more because his shit, he really knows

631
00:28:24,133 --> 00:28:24,653
Speaker 4: his stuff.

632
00:28:25,653 --> 00:28:27,853
Speaker 2: Gosh, maybe I'm not the arrogant one. Maybe that's where

633
00:28:27,893 --> 00:28:28,213
Speaker 2: it's my.

634
00:28:29,253 --> 00:28:30,853
Speaker 5: Big league podcast, right.

635
00:28:30,893 --> 00:28:34,933
Speaker 2: The Warriors host the Titans on Saturday night at Mount Smart. Somehow,

636
00:28:35,053 --> 00:28:37,613
Speaker 2: this is the first time they're playing the Titans this year. Bird,

637
00:28:37,653 --> 00:28:40,053
Speaker 2: We're twenty one rounds in to the season and they

638
00:28:40,053 --> 00:28:42,613
Speaker 2: play the Titans again about three weeks after this, So well,

639
00:28:42,653 --> 00:28:44,053
Speaker 2: it's going to be all Titans for the next few

640
00:28:44,053 --> 00:28:47,733
Speaker 2: weeks unfortunately. But the Titans they sit dead last on

641
00:28:47,773 --> 00:28:51,213
Speaker 2: the NRL Ladder with four wins and thirteen losses. They're

642
00:28:51,253 --> 00:28:55,253
Speaker 2: coming off a twenty one twenty loss to the Tigers

643
00:28:55,333 --> 00:29:00,333
Speaker 2: in West Sydney. Benji Marsha will be sighing a big

644
00:29:00,373 --> 00:29:01,213
Speaker 2: heap of relief.

645
00:29:01,253 --> 00:29:01,693
Speaker 5: Will Ever.

646
00:29:03,053 --> 00:29:05,893
Speaker 2: Adam Dewey with the a field goal in the seventy

647
00:29:06,013 --> 00:29:09,613
Speaker 2: ninth minute, they are likely the Titans to be without

648
00:29:09,933 --> 00:29:14,133
Speaker 2: Skippettino fu saw Malioi at Locke due to a knee injury,

649
00:29:14,413 --> 00:29:18,133
Speaker 2: but Kean Kini should be back from a neck injury.

650
00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:21,933
Speaker 2: Obviously we know Keeny impressed for the late last year,

651
00:29:21,973 --> 00:29:24,493
Speaker 2: so he will be dynamic. They've also got aj Brimson

652
00:29:24,493 --> 00:29:27,173
Speaker 2: who scored against the Tigers. He's so dangerous at fullback

653
00:29:27,293 --> 00:29:30,573
Speaker 2: and obviously familiar with Kiaren fourn and Jaden Campbell in

654
00:29:30,613 --> 00:29:32,773
Speaker 2: the halves. Burge, do we need to be worried about

655
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Speaker 2: this because I want to go out there and say

656
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Speaker 2: that Warry is going to put forty on them, But

657
00:29:36,533 --> 00:29:41,573
Speaker 2: I'm Steamer right, I'm slightly lacking the confidence to say that.

658
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:41,813
Speaker 5: Now.

659
00:29:41,933 --> 00:29:44,893
Speaker 4: Well, look, the last time the Titans came to Mount

660
00:29:44,933 --> 00:29:48,253
Speaker 4: Smart they were also dead last on the ladder. They'd

661
00:29:48,293 --> 00:29:50,893
Speaker 4: lost seven games in a row, maybe eight, I think

662
00:29:50,893 --> 00:29:53,253
Speaker 4: it was seven. They hadn't won a game that season.

663
00:29:53,253 --> 00:29:55,453
Speaker 4: This is last year, right, Anzac Day. We're all looking

664
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Speaker 4: forward to a big party, and what happened? The party

665
00:29:57,613 --> 00:29:59,693
Speaker 4: never happened. Well, the party happened having with the Gold

666
00:29:59,733 --> 00:30:04,333
Speaker 4: Coast Tanna Boyd. I think he kicked five six conversions

667
00:30:04,333 --> 00:30:06,253
Speaker 4: of penalty of field goal and they won twenty seven

668
00:30:06,293 --> 00:30:06,773
Speaker 4: to twenty four.

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Speaker 5: So it was a friggin nightmare. Can't see that happening again.

670
00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:12,653
Speaker 4: But the Titans are They became the Warrior's bogey team

671
00:30:12,693 --> 00:30:15,293
Speaker 4: last year, they beat them twice and they just got

672
00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:18,213
Speaker 4: them with this pure X factor and pace that they've got.

673
00:30:18,253 --> 00:30:21,133
Speaker 4: So the Warriors will need to be really careful, really

674
00:30:21,173 --> 00:30:24,213
Speaker 4: prepare well, not be complacent, ignore the table, all those

675
00:30:24,253 --> 00:30:27,493
Speaker 4: good things. But you feel like this Warriors team a

676
00:30:27,933 --> 00:30:32,133
Speaker 4: better team than last year's team, so surely it can't

677
00:30:32,133 --> 00:30:32,573
Speaker 4: happen again.

678
00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:33,453
Speaker 5: It won't happen again.

679
00:30:33,533 --> 00:30:36,453
Speaker 4: The Warriors will be prepared for what's coming and they

680
00:30:36,453 --> 00:30:39,933
Speaker 4: will take so much relief and confidence and momentum from

681
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Speaker 4: what happened and what happened in Newcastle, so they'll be fine.

682
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Speaker 5: But they just need to start well. They've got to

683
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Speaker 5: start well and stamp their throat in the game.

684
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Speaker 2: Is it last year that the Titans put like sixty

685
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Speaker 2: on the Warriors.

686
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

687
00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:54,253
Speaker 4: So with the ends of day game with twenty seven

688
00:30:54,253 --> 00:30:56,253
Speaker 4: to twenty four, which is like, you know, first NZI

689
00:30:56,333 --> 00:30:58,013
Speaker 4: day at home for years, this is going to be great.

690
00:30:59,013 --> 00:31:03,613
Speaker 4: And then they lost and then revenge Gold Coast sunny

691
00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:08,973
Speaker 4: afternoon and they got absolutely smashed. Although two of the

692
00:31:09,053 --> 00:31:13,093
Speaker 4: better players on both those matches Aaron Clark, Tanner Boyd

693
00:31:13,773 --> 00:31:16,813
Speaker 4: and now we'reing Warriors Jersey, so that also fills you

694
00:31:16,853 --> 00:31:17,733
Speaker 4: with a bit of confidence.

695
00:31:18,373 --> 00:31:20,893
Speaker 2: Now in terms of the Warrior's lineup, thankfully there went

696
00:31:20,933 --> 00:31:23,813
Speaker 2: any more injuries there, which is I mean, apart from

697
00:31:23,813 --> 00:31:26,293
Speaker 2: whatever Capewell was struggling with, do we get confirmation on

698
00:31:26,333 --> 00:31:27,213
Speaker 2: what that actually was?

699
00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:30,053
Speaker 4: Well, it looked like a thigh or quadrcept didn't it

700
00:31:30,093 --> 00:31:33,293
Speaker 4: from his bandages. They also mentioned that Tanner Boyd had

701
00:31:33,333 --> 00:31:36,893
Speaker 4: been touch and go Captain's run with some kind of

702
00:31:37,533 --> 00:31:41,893
Speaker 4: slight quad complaint, and Chanell had a calf, so there

703
00:31:41,933 --> 00:31:44,253
Speaker 4: are a few little things going on. We didn't mention

704
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:46,653
Speaker 4: Chanelle too. I think he's another one that won't be

705
00:31:46,733 --> 00:31:49,133
Speaker 4: completely happy with as a game. Like you say, Tanner

706
00:31:49,213 --> 00:31:51,173
Speaker 4: is going to get some grief, but Chanel one particular

707
00:31:51,213 --> 00:31:54,773
Speaker 4: play where they just got a repeat set and first

708
00:31:54,773 --> 00:31:57,653
Speaker 4: tackle run it of just getting blind, so he gets

709
00:31:57,653 --> 00:32:00,613
Speaker 4: pushed over the sideline with about twelve to go. That

710
00:32:00,733 --> 00:32:03,973
Speaker 4: was another coach killers, So yeah, there's plenty to work

711
00:32:04,013 --> 00:32:04,933
Speaker 4: on now.

712
00:32:04,973 --> 00:32:07,133
Speaker 2: I said earlier that I'm happy for Kirk Capble to

713
00:32:07,173 --> 00:32:10,093
Speaker 2: remain in that into position as long as he is

714
00:32:10,133 --> 00:32:12,213
Speaker 2: fit and he's not still going to be carrying that

715
00:32:12,253 --> 00:32:13,933
Speaker 2: injury and that's not going to be hampering him during

716
00:32:13,933 --> 00:32:15,573
Speaker 2: the game. Do you want him there or do you

717
00:32:15,613 --> 00:32:16,613
Speaker 2: want Ali l'a talleran.

718
00:32:16,973 --> 00:32:19,173
Speaker 4: I'd like to see Ali there, really would. I mean,

719
00:32:19,893 --> 00:32:21,893
Speaker 4: Kate was a safe bet. It will be tempting because

720
00:32:21,893 --> 00:32:24,173
Speaker 4: it's another big game. You want to lock it down.

721
00:32:24,253 --> 00:32:26,853
Speaker 4: It's a safe bet. But at some stage you've got

722
00:32:26,853 --> 00:32:30,293
Speaker 4: to think about what you want to do in September.

723
00:32:30,573 --> 00:32:32,813
Speaker 4: Maybe Webster wants to do this, Maybe he wants Kate

724
00:32:32,893 --> 00:32:34,493
Speaker 4: Weller in the centers of September.

725
00:32:34,693 --> 00:32:36,453
Speaker 5: But he's been amazing.

726
00:32:36,453 --> 00:32:38,893
Speaker 4: But it's a big ask, even for Kurt, who's an

727
00:32:38,893 --> 00:32:42,493
Speaker 4: amazing competitor, because he's against up against these guys who've

728
00:32:42,493 --> 00:32:44,773
Speaker 4: got so much pace. And I wouldn't mind just seeing

729
00:32:44,773 --> 00:32:49,333
Speaker 4: what Ali Lautawa can do. But maybe Webster thinks Cap

730
00:32:49,413 --> 00:32:51,813
Speaker 4: willers the answered defensively. It's a big question.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cook Fire Predictions Bird. We're going into Round twenty

735
00:33:09,053 --> 00:33:12,253
Speaker 2: one of the NRL I was starting off with quite

736
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Speaker 2: a biggie. It's Roosters versus the Storm, and it's in

737
00:33:15,293 --> 00:33:19,173
Speaker 2: Sydney and the Storm just lost to the Seagulls. Craig Bellamy,

738
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be at Storm training this week. No, No,

739
00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:23,853
Speaker 2: he should have seen him in the press conference. He

740
00:33:24,013 --> 00:33:26,173
Speaker 2: was he didn't know what to say. For the first

741
00:33:26,213 --> 00:33:29,173
Speaker 2: few seconds you could see he was fuming. I mean,

742
00:33:29,533 --> 00:33:32,213
Speaker 2: no one predicted that eighteen sixteen to Manly, no one

743
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Speaker 2: at all. The Storm will bounce back. They always do.

744
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:37,733
Speaker 4: They almost never lose two games in a row, especially

745
00:33:37,773 --> 00:33:38,333
Speaker 4: in that manner.

746
00:33:38,613 --> 00:33:41,093
Speaker 5: So yeah, the Storm for mine, and.

747
00:33:41,013 --> 00:33:43,253
Speaker 2: The Rooster's coming off a lost to the Sharks as well.

748
00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:46,773
Speaker 4: Cowboys, Dragons, man the Dragons almost beat the Bulldogs. That

749
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Speaker 4: would have been something because they would have really helped

750
00:33:48,813 --> 00:33:51,813
Speaker 4: the Warriors too. I think the Bulldogs needed a seventy

751
00:33:51,853 --> 00:33:54,453
Speaker 4: eighth minute try to get up for that, to get

752
00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:57,573
Speaker 4: up for that win twenty eighteen. So Dragons, they're still

753
00:33:57,613 --> 00:34:00,013
Speaker 4: they're still right in it. But I like the Cowboys

754
00:34:00,173 --> 00:34:03,333
Speaker 4: in Townsville generally, and it's it's a tough match for

755
00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:04,773
Speaker 4: the Dragons to recover from.

756
00:34:04,773 --> 00:34:06,253
Speaker 5: So I'll go with North Queensland here.

757
00:34:06,573 --> 00:34:10,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cowboys shelled forty three points odd number, forty

758
00:34:10,533 --> 00:34:15,973
Speaker 2: three points to the Dolphins, and I was still, oh,

759
00:34:16,133 --> 00:34:20,453
Speaker 2: actually no, no, I'm going for the Dragons. I've changed

760
00:34:20,453 --> 00:34:20,813
Speaker 2: my mind.

761
00:34:20,973 --> 00:34:25,533
Speaker 4: Broncos versus your Broncos all day off, the by their sailing.

762
00:34:25,613 --> 00:34:27,853
Speaker 4: They're sailing ever since that they turned a quarter about

763
00:34:27,853 --> 00:34:29,613
Speaker 4: three or four weeks ago, and there they're a top

764
00:34:29,653 --> 00:34:32,293
Speaker 4: fourteen that's hiding down in the fifth spot.

765
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Speaker 2: Warriors versus the Titans.

766
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Warriors that this will be their night to really

767
00:34:38,533 --> 00:34:41,333
Speaker 4: get going. The Tigers they are okay, weren't they two

768
00:34:41,333 --> 00:34:43,333
Speaker 4: weeks ago? They're okay at home, but still a lot

769
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:46,853
Speaker 4: of mistakes. They weren't great on Sunday and gets the

770
00:34:46,973 --> 00:34:48,773
Speaker 4: nights in a lot of ways. So I feel like

771
00:34:48,853 --> 00:34:51,453
Speaker 4: everything could click against the Titans. Titans will still be

772
00:34:51,453 --> 00:34:53,893
Speaker 4: good for a future. Ees interesting to see two where

773
00:34:53,933 --> 00:34:56,693
Speaker 4: the chances back and we'veter.

774
00:34:56,173 --> 00:34:58,373
Speaker 2: Said last week that he should be back for this game.

775
00:34:58,453 --> 00:34:58,933
Speaker 5: Well there you go.

776
00:34:59,133 --> 00:35:00,733
Speaker 4: I mean the tame was very good again, I mean

777
00:35:00,773 --> 00:35:03,693
Speaker 4: them Andrew Ross and commentary and Steve Roacher going on,

778
00:35:03,693 --> 00:35:06,613
Speaker 4: oh look he's not doing many run meters. But it

779
00:35:06,693 --> 00:35:08,813
Speaker 4: wasn't that type of game. But man, he saved a

780
00:35:08,853 --> 00:35:13,093
Speaker 4: couple of tries. He looks sparky. He's still still a

781
00:35:13,133 --> 00:35:13,973
Speaker 4: really good player.

782
00:35:14,013 --> 00:35:17,093
Speaker 2: Well potentially if I mean if playing that well, put

783
00:35:17,173 --> 00:35:18,933
Speaker 2: him on the wing instead of Dowan. Chance goes back

784
00:35:18,933 --> 00:35:19,413
Speaker 2: to fullback.

785
00:35:19,573 --> 00:35:20,933
Speaker 5: Actually, there you go, there you go.

786
00:35:21,013 --> 00:35:22,773
Speaker 4: That's that's going to be a really big call because

787
00:35:23,133 --> 00:35:25,653
Speaker 4: it would be a massive decision to drop Dowlan, but

788
00:35:27,133 --> 00:35:29,653
Speaker 4: there would be a temptation on just just effect is

789
00:35:29,693 --> 00:35:30,493
Speaker 4: down on confidence.

790
00:35:30,733 --> 00:35:32,493
Speaker 5: So the Warriors, Yeah, the Warriors.

791
00:35:32,933 --> 00:35:35,253
Speaker 4: To get the job done at home, and I feel

792
00:35:35,293 --> 00:35:38,693
Speaker 4: like it'll be won't be as nervoy as the as

793
00:35:38,733 --> 00:35:42,813
Speaker 4: the Tigers game. Panthers versus the Tigers, another team that's

794
00:35:42,853 --> 00:35:47,133
Speaker 4: turned the corner. There was their turning point. They're coming

795
00:35:47,213 --> 00:35:50,133
Speaker 4: there on the way they're back. It'll be close because

796
00:35:50,173 --> 00:35:53,013
Speaker 4: it's a West West Sidney thing and Tigers will be

797
00:35:53,093 --> 00:35:56,973
Speaker 4: really motivated for it. But the Panthers they're sailing home

798
00:35:57,013 --> 00:35:57,773
Speaker 4: towards the playoffs.

799
00:35:57,813 --> 00:35:57,973
Speaker 5: Now.

800
00:35:58,973 --> 00:36:03,653
Speaker 4: Bunny Sharks, Yeah, the Rabbits they're heading towards the wooden spoon.

801
00:36:03,693 --> 00:36:05,893
Speaker 4: It's very sad, very sad for Wayne Bennett, very sad

802
00:36:05,893 --> 00:36:08,653
Speaker 4: for the club. So many issues, so well, so many

803
00:36:08,653 --> 00:36:09,413
Speaker 4: injuries mainly.

804
00:36:10,093 --> 00:36:13,573
Speaker 2: Yes, the rabbit o's are absolutely in the mud fifteenth

805
00:36:13,613 --> 00:36:15,373
Speaker 2: on the ladder, coming off of hiding at the hands

806
00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:17,493
Speaker 2: of the Panthers. So I will agree with you that

807
00:36:17,533 --> 00:36:20,413
Speaker 2: the Sharks get the job done in Sydney Raiders versus

808
00:36:20,413 --> 00:36:20,773
Speaker 2: the Knights.

809
00:36:21,133 --> 00:36:24,333
Speaker 4: Raiders heading towards the minor Premiership, I don't think anyone's

810
00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,253
Speaker 4: going to stop them getting first place. They might not

811
00:36:26,293 --> 00:36:28,413
Speaker 4: even lose another game this year the way they're going

812
00:36:28,413 --> 00:36:30,973
Speaker 4: from memory, They've got quite a decent draw in the

813
00:36:31,013 --> 00:36:34,293
Speaker 4: run and so the Knights will be shattered by what happened.

814
00:36:34,373 --> 00:36:36,133
Speaker 5: So Raiders all day.

815
00:36:36,573 --> 00:36:38,573
Speaker 2: And the last one Bulldogs see you goes both sides

816
00:36:38,573 --> 00:36:41,853
Speaker 2: coming off solid. Well, see he was a very solid performance.

817
00:36:42,013 --> 00:36:43,853
Speaker 2: Bulldogs are still winning and they're still up there.

818
00:36:44,013 --> 00:36:44,933
Speaker 5: Yes, far out.

819
00:36:45,653 --> 00:36:47,893
Speaker 4: That's this is This is the game of the round

820
00:36:47,933 --> 00:36:49,613
Speaker 4: and always this is the fifty to fifty one, isn't it.

821
00:36:49,733 --> 00:36:54,013
Speaker 5: I might go Manly, here go Manly, go go Manly.

822
00:36:54,493 --> 00:36:56,293
Speaker 2: I'm going to back the Bulldoers because they are at

823
00:36:56,333 --> 00:36:59,053
Speaker 2: home game Manly Michael Bitches, thank you so much for

824
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Speaker 2: what is hopefully a job one hundred and fifty point

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Speaker 2: win for the Warriors over the Titans. My name is

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Speaker 2: Nathan Limb. Have a fantastic week.

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