1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Now Jane Tibcherini is The Herald's Wellington Business editor and 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: with us. Now, how your name, hey Heaver? OCR uncertainty 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: still the case, isn't it? 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Very much? So? The picture that I have in my 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: mind is of some sort of frantic office worker trying 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: to explain things by referring to a pin board, sort 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: of drawing strings between pieces of paper, sort of saying, 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: you know, if this happens, this could happen, and that 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: could happen, but maybe not. And here's another scenario that 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: was kind of my read through the Reserve Bank's quarterly 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Monetary Policy statement and its commentary today in the press conference. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: So it cut the OCR by twenty five basis points, 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: as expected, but then it really highlighted the uncertainty and 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: the global outlook, largely down to Donald Trump. I think 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: it referred to the word uncertain one hundred and sixty 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: four times and it's sixty two page document. News. 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: That's a lot, isn't it. What's going on with the cuts? 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: Because we all assume that there was just going to 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: be a rate. It cuts at a rate of knots, 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: but it doesn't look very much like that at all. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, look it's very much open for interpretation. You 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: could argue that Christian hawk speed delivered a hawkish statement, 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: and that is because the Monetary Policy Committee was divided 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: for only the second time ever on what to do 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: with the OCR. One person thought it should stay at 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: three point five percent, the others thought it should be cut. Yeah, 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: so you know, so there's that factor. Also, the commentary 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: today in the press conference really suggested it there was 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: a bit of uncertainty. I think Christian said that, you know, 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: there was no clear bias, So basically, at the next 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: meeting he couldn't say, you know, which way he was 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: leaning in terms of what the committee would do with 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: the OCR. But then the thing that was a bit 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: puzzling was the projections in the statement suggested that the 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: OCR would still be cut another couple of times. So 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: you know, you're piecing together bits of information that tells 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: slightly different stories. So the only real story that this 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: all tells is that we don't know. I know. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: Well, if they don't know, then I think we can 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: say it's okay that we don't know, because they are 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: the ones who are supposed to know. Hey, thank you, 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: and I appreciated to Native Charny, The Herald's Wellington business edited. 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio