1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at Me. 3 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:15,853 Speaker 2: It is time to get our movie picks for this weekend. 4 00:00:15,853 --> 00:00:18,373 Speaker 2: The thing you'll be watching when relaxing in your bean 5 00:00:18,453 --> 00:00:21,533 Speaker 2: bag and Francesca Rudkin as well this morning. 6 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:23,773 Speaker 3: Hey Francesca, good morning. 7 00:00:23,893 --> 00:00:26,093 Speaker 2: You're quite a tasteful person. Do you feel like bean 8 00:00:26,133 --> 00:00:26,853 Speaker 2: bags are having a. 9 00:00:26,813 --> 00:00:28,693 Speaker 4: Moment having a moment? 10 00:00:28,933 --> 00:00:30,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, I sort of feel like they're sort of back 11 00:00:30,613 --> 00:00:33,093 Speaker 2: in you know, they sort of. There was about nineteen 12 00:00:33,093 --> 00:00:35,813 Speaker 2: sixty eight they were hot, and now twenty twenty four, 13 00:00:36,013 --> 00:00:36,813 Speaker 2: bean bags are back. 14 00:00:36,853 --> 00:00:39,933 Speaker 4: Baby, No, bean bags have been back for a while, actually, Jack, 15 00:00:40,053 --> 00:00:42,853 Speaker 4: it depends on the age of the people that live 16 00:00:42,893 --> 00:00:45,853 Speaker 4: in your home, but especially outdoor bean bags. Yes, have 17 00:00:46,013 --> 00:00:47,013 Speaker 4: been back for a while. 18 00:00:47,013 --> 00:00:49,933 Speaker 2: Outdoor bean bags definitely have been a thing for a while. 19 00:00:49,933 --> 00:00:52,173 Speaker 2: But I reckon your indoor bean bags are sort. 20 00:00:52,013 --> 00:00:55,293 Speaker 3: Of if you should get in and out of the 21 00:00:55,373 --> 00:01:00,413 Speaker 3: bean bag, Jack, Yes, Yes, when we're talking about your 22 00:01:00,453 --> 00:01:03,493 Speaker 3: indoors versus your outdoors, really it's the inversus out In 23 00:01:03,533 --> 00:01:04,613 Speaker 3: another sense that matters. 24 00:01:05,813 --> 00:01:09,133 Speaker 2: The doc Film Festival is kicking off and we're going 25 00:01:09,173 --> 00:01:11,013 Speaker 2: to have like a couple of films that are screening 26 00:01:11,053 --> 00:01:14,053 Speaker 2: there such an amazing festival, and I mean, I'm an 27 00:01:14,093 --> 00:01:16,773 Speaker 2: absolute suck of a documentary, so i love it. Let's 28 00:01:16,773 --> 00:01:20,453 Speaker 2: start off with rather be ashes than dust, tell us about. 29 00:01:20,213 --> 00:01:23,573 Speaker 5: It, Okay. So this is directed by Adam Lao who 30 00:01:23,613 --> 00:01:28,173 Speaker 5: is a video journalist. He lived and lived in Hong Kong, 31 00:01:29,173 --> 00:01:32,293 Speaker 5: and he starts off as documentary by giving us a 32 00:01:32,413 --> 00:01:35,933 Speaker 5: quick story lesson about how the UK transferred seignty back 33 00:01:35,933 --> 00:01:38,253 Speaker 5: to China and nineteen ninety seven they had this sort 34 00:01:38,253 --> 00:01:40,413 Speaker 5: of one country, true system principle. 35 00:01:40,973 --> 00:01:41,773 Speaker 3: He looks at how. 36 00:01:41,733 --> 00:01:45,373 Speaker 5: In twenty and fourteen, Beijing started to sort of exert 37 00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:50,133 Speaker 5: influence on the governance of Hong Kong and they declared 38 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:52,733 Speaker 5: that they wanted to approve candidates to lead Hong Kong 39 00:01:52,773 --> 00:01:57,413 Speaker 5: and things, and the people very much became very concerned that, 40 00:01:57,693 --> 00:02:00,053 Speaker 5: you know, that they wouldn't have transparent elections, and the 41 00:02:00,213 --> 00:02:02,973 Speaker 5: Umbrella movement began. I'm sure people remember. 42 00:02:03,453 --> 00:02:04,293 Speaker 3: The footage of this. 43 00:02:05,213 --> 00:02:07,733 Speaker 5: Then we kind of step up to twenty nineteen and 44 00:02:07,813 --> 00:02:11,693 Speaker 5: this is when that movement kind of grew again, and 45 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:14,253 Speaker 5: I'm sure once again a lot of people will remember 46 00:02:14,293 --> 00:02:16,573 Speaker 5: the footage that came out of Hong Kong for robotics 47 00:02:16,613 --> 00:02:19,533 Speaker 5: for pretty much over the space of the year. And 48 00:02:19,813 --> 00:02:22,333 Speaker 5: the reason that the movement stepped up was because there 49 00:02:22,453 --> 00:02:27,333 Speaker 5: was a murder case and China decided that they would 50 00:02:27,373 --> 00:02:29,733 Speaker 5: make an amendment to an existing law but meant that 51 00:02:29,773 --> 00:02:32,253 Speaker 5: a Hong Kong citizen could be tried in Taiwan or 52 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:35,693 Speaker 5: in China if they felt free to. In Hong Kong people, 53 00:02:35,693 --> 00:02:38,253 Speaker 5: of course, we were very concerned about this because China 54 00:02:38,293 --> 00:02:41,013 Speaker 5: has quite different approach to human rights than they do. 55 00:02:41,533 --> 00:02:43,693 Speaker 5: And this led to a year of protest. So Andy 56 00:02:43,733 --> 00:02:46,413 Speaker 5: Lao was part of this. He captured as he captured 57 00:02:46,413 --> 00:02:49,453 Speaker 5: the twenty fourteen protests, and he was right in the 58 00:02:49,493 --> 00:02:52,053 Speaker 5: middle of the twenty and nineteen protests. And I'm going 59 00:02:52,093 --> 00:02:56,053 Speaker 5: to be honest with you, Jack, this is absolutely exhausting 60 00:02:56,333 --> 00:03:01,253 Speaker 5: this documentary. But it's just NonStop starts as protests. He 61 00:03:01,373 --> 00:03:04,693 Speaker 5: takes you along with June as he started with protests 62 00:03:04,693 --> 00:03:06,933 Speaker 5: with millions of people will in preace in the streets, 63 00:03:06,973 --> 00:03:10,493 Speaker 5: singing together or coming together. At the end of these protests, 64 00:03:10,533 --> 00:03:12,853 Speaker 5: the young people would stay behind and they would clear 65 00:03:12,933 --> 00:03:15,253 Speaker 5: up all the mess on the roads because this was 66 00:03:15,293 --> 00:03:17,893 Speaker 5: their home. This is they loved Hong Kong. And as 67 00:03:17,933 --> 00:03:21,573 Speaker 5: you sort of follow this protest throughout the year. It 68 00:03:21,653 --> 00:03:26,213 Speaker 5: becomes riots. You follow the police brutality. There were moments 69 00:03:26,213 --> 00:03:29,413 Speaker 5: where the protesters get out of control and beat the police. 70 00:03:29,453 --> 00:03:32,053 Speaker 5: He captures all this and it gets to a point 71 00:03:32,053 --> 00:03:35,453 Speaker 5: at the end whereby you know, Hong Kong City, Hong 72 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:40,413 Speaker 5: Kong is just a collection of barricades where demonstrators and protesters, rioters, 73 00:03:40,453 --> 00:03:42,333 Speaker 5: what if you'd like to call them a stuck in places, 74 00:03:42,333 --> 00:03:45,413 Speaker 5: there are arrests going on, people are disappearing, and he 75 00:03:45,613 --> 00:03:47,653 Speaker 5: just takes you on this journey to show you how 76 00:03:48,973 --> 00:03:51,333 Speaker 5: how to control that. Got at the same time asking 77 00:03:51,373 --> 00:03:54,493 Speaker 5: the question, what's my role as a journalist. I'm standing 78 00:03:54,533 --> 00:03:57,653 Speaker 5: here living, but I'm you know, I'm getting PTC, I'm 79 00:03:57,653 --> 00:04:00,933 Speaker 5: getting shot at, I'm dealing with this toxics, tear gas. 80 00:04:00,973 --> 00:04:04,573 Speaker 5: So it's very much a tribute to those who have 81 00:04:04,693 --> 00:04:08,093 Speaker 5: been arrested, who are still go in court cases, who 82 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:10,813 Speaker 5: maybe you know, we see or we don't see very often. 83 00:04:11,133 --> 00:04:14,973 Speaker 5: It is very much a tribute. This film Comes Together 84 00:04:15,013 --> 00:04:16,853 Speaker 5: really is sort of a tribute to the people who 85 00:04:16,853 --> 00:04:19,173 Speaker 5: put their lives on the line to fight for what 86 00:04:19,213 --> 00:04:21,693 Speaker 5: they really truly believed in and human rights in Hong Kong. 87 00:04:22,293 --> 00:04:27,773 Speaker 5: But my goodness, it's an exhausting journey getting going through this. 88 00:04:28,213 --> 00:04:31,533 Speaker 5: It's a really interesting firsthand look at just how as 89 00:04:31,613 --> 00:04:35,333 Speaker 5: humans we escalate and get out of control, and how 90 00:04:35,653 --> 00:04:37,893 Speaker 5: the Hong Kong governants sort of dug their feet in 91 00:04:38,053 --> 00:04:41,493 Speaker 5: and you know, and keep China happy. Really fascinating. 92 00:04:41,613 --> 00:04:44,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, great sounds. It sounds super interesting. So that's 93 00:04:44,853 --> 00:04:47,133 Speaker 2: rather be ashes than dust. And the great thing about 94 00:04:47,133 --> 00:04:49,133 Speaker 2: the Dockage Film Festival, of course, is that they have 95 00:04:49,293 --> 00:04:52,573 Speaker 2: lots of different stories. So for something completely different, tell 96 00:04:52,653 --> 00:04:55,333 Speaker 2: us about scharcot Ah. 97 00:04:55,373 --> 00:04:58,293 Speaker 5: So this is a story of legendary Kiweed's League player 98 00:04:58,373 --> 00:05:01,453 Speaker 5: Mark Graham, and the documentary is made by his son 99 00:05:01,733 --> 00:05:06,533 Speaker 5: Luke Graham, and it celebrates Mak's incredible, amazing career. Is 100 00:05:06,533 --> 00:05:10,813 Speaker 5: one of the toughest ever players to be on a 101 00:05:10,893 --> 00:05:16,253 Speaker 5: league field, and I think league lovers league fans will 102 00:05:16,333 --> 00:05:19,493 Speaker 5: absolutely love it. There is a focus on certain games 103 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:22,453 Speaker 5: and certain series, such as the Kiwi's Kangaroo series in 104 00:05:22,533 --> 00:05:25,813 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty five. All the big names of league feature 105 00:05:25,813 --> 00:05:29,533 Speaker 5: in this documentary telling stories, telling us what was going 106 00:05:29,533 --> 00:05:32,933 Speaker 5: on behind the scenes. Graham Low plays a large part, 107 00:05:33,013 --> 00:05:35,653 Speaker 5: of course, in the documentary because he played a large 108 00:05:35,653 --> 00:05:39,133 Speaker 5: party Mark Graham's career. At the beginning of the film, 109 00:05:39,253 --> 00:05:43,173 Speaker 5: luke sister his dad, Hey, do you know why we're 110 00:05:43,213 --> 00:05:46,213 Speaker 5: making this film? And it's really clear that Mark Graham 111 00:05:46,293 --> 00:05:49,013 Speaker 5: is a reluctant player in this documentary, and he says, 112 00:05:49,413 --> 00:05:51,373 Speaker 5: you're my son. This is going to be great for 113 00:05:51,413 --> 00:05:53,653 Speaker 5: your career, and I'm going to do anything I can 114 00:05:53,773 --> 00:05:57,373 Speaker 5: to help your looks goes. But he notes, I don't 115 00:05:57,373 --> 00:05:59,093 Speaker 5: think anyone's going to watch this. I really don't think 116 00:05:59,093 --> 00:06:01,053 Speaker 5: anyone's going to watch this. But I help you out, 117 00:06:01,053 --> 00:06:02,733 Speaker 5: But I don't think anyone's going to watch it. I 118 00:06:02,733 --> 00:06:04,093 Speaker 5: think a lot of people are going to watch it 119 00:06:04,093 --> 00:06:07,293 Speaker 5: because it's not just a league story. It's also a 120 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:09,493 Speaker 5: film that looks at the sacrifice is made to be 121 00:06:09,573 --> 00:06:13,213 Speaker 5: a professional amateur sports person, you know, the strain at 122 00:06:13,253 --> 00:06:15,493 Speaker 5: chock on his body, the strain at check on his family. 123 00:06:16,573 --> 00:06:20,013 Speaker 5: Mike separated from Luke's mother when he was ten, and 124 00:06:20,373 --> 00:06:24,813 Speaker 5: you know, Mark was superman to Luke, but he was 125 00:06:24,853 --> 00:06:27,133 Speaker 5: an absent father. He was not around a lot. And 126 00:06:27,173 --> 00:06:29,573 Speaker 5: it's this beautiful story of father and son kind of 127 00:06:29,573 --> 00:06:32,573 Speaker 5: coming together later in life. Also had to deal with 128 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:37,253 Speaker 5: a terrible family tragedy. So it's sort of this also 129 00:06:37,333 --> 00:06:41,093 Speaker 5: this lovely tribute to sons trying to make their fathers 130 00:06:41,133 --> 00:06:41,933 Speaker 5: proud of them. 131 00:06:42,373 --> 00:06:42,933 Speaker 3: It's sort of. 132 00:06:43,013 --> 00:06:46,133 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a family story as well as this incredible 133 00:06:46,213 --> 00:06:48,733 Speaker 5: league story. I was at the footage of the league 134 00:06:48,853 --> 00:06:52,013 Speaker 5: jack like the other day, watching you know, Reece whiles 135 00:06:52,053 --> 00:06:54,733 Speaker 5: she get taken out in the state of Barger. I 136 00:06:54,773 --> 00:07:02,413 Speaker 5: was sitting at home horrified that was nothing had footage. 137 00:07:01,533 --> 00:07:04,973 Speaker 2: Film rugby league in the eighties, especially just that it 138 00:07:05,013 --> 00:07:08,013 Speaker 2: was just basically grieve bodily harm a round a Yeah, 139 00:07:08,253 --> 00:07:11,693 Speaker 2: so that's sharko. That sounds that sounds fantastic, And I 140 00:07:11,693 --> 00:07:13,533 Speaker 2: don't want to give too much away, but I'm very 141 00:07:13,573 --> 00:07:15,453 Speaker 2: pleased to announce that we're going to be talking to 142 00:07:15,533 --> 00:07:18,333 Speaker 2: Mark and Luke Graham next weekend on Saturday morning. So 143 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:20,053 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for that. 144 00:07:20,173 --> 00:07:22,973 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I'll definitely listen. Mark is a quiet gentleman. 145 00:07:23,013 --> 00:07:23,813 Speaker 5: He doesn't say a lot. 146 00:07:24,093 --> 00:07:26,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a real gentleman. 147 00:07:26,733 --> 00:07:29,493 Speaker 5: He doesn't want attention. He was a successful lead player, 148 00:07:29,573 --> 00:07:30,693 Speaker 5: just wants to get on with his life. 149 00:07:30,733 --> 00:07:30,893 Speaker 1: Now. 150 00:07:31,093 --> 00:07:33,333 Speaker 5: Hey, look Docge dot m z as where you Go. 151 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:35,373 Speaker 5: Forty three feature films is going to be christ to 152 00:07:35,413 --> 00:07:37,573 Speaker 5: its Wellington bot home. Outside of that, you can do 153 00:07:37,653 --> 00:07:40,493 Speaker 5: the virtual cinema that kicks off on the subject of July, 154 00:07:40,693 --> 00:07:44,013 Speaker 5: so go check out Docage dot mz. So good true. 155 00:07:44,093 --> 00:07:46,173 Speaker 2: I know that one of those other films that is 156 00:07:46,213 --> 00:07:49,013 Speaker 2: showing at dock Edge is Citizen Sleuth, which is follows 157 00:07:49,013 --> 00:07:53,013 Speaker 2: a story of a true crime podcaster from Appalachia blurring 158 00:07:53,053 --> 00:07:55,333 Speaker 2: the line between fact and entertainment as she sort of 159 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:58,413 Speaker 2: investigates a mysterious local death. And I know that you 160 00:07:58,453 --> 00:08:01,933 Speaker 2: guys have the filmmaker and the podcaster. The film was 161 00:08:01,973 --> 00:08:04,813 Speaker 2: about on the show tomorrow for the Sunday session, So 162 00:08:04,893 --> 00:08:08,493 Speaker 2: that'll be superb. Thank you so much. Francisca dot dot 163 00:08:08,773 --> 00:08:10,653 Speaker 2: z is the website. We'll make sure we put it 164 00:08:10,693 --> 00:08:11,693 Speaker 2: on our website as well. 165 00:08:12,333 --> 00:08:15,413 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 166 00:08:15,493 --> 00:08:18,693 Speaker 1: to News Talk ZEDB from nine am Saturday, or follow 167 00:08:18,733 --> 00:08:20,293 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.