1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a player store. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be good morning at a six half 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: to five year on. News Talk said the early edition 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: coming up on the show Facial Recognition Technology. Why it's 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: probably coming to a new world near you in the 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: next half hour. Why a ground war between Israel and 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: his Buller is unlikely? Toper sentences for bus driver Bashes 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Good and Gavin Gray's in the UK. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: The agenda. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the twenty fifth September. Israel is claiming victory, 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: claiming to have killed a senior his Billa commander overnight. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: The death toll now five hundred and fifty thousands are 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: fleeing southern Lebanon. Residents from there say a response from 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: his Villa will be strong In this. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: War, you can't win every day. 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 5: Let Israel wait and see what. 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 6: Our response will be. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 5: We are strong feet. 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: But Biden has spoken at the UN overnight. 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 6: Full scale war is not in anyone's interesting. 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 7: Even a situation has escalated, a diplomatic solution is still possible. 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: Staying in the United states early voting. There is tricking 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: in in the United States election, the male voting, that is, 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: postal voting. The Democrats usually dominate this, but the edge 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: has shrunk in favor of the Republicans save US so 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: slightly in key states including Florida, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: One thing that Democrats have done really well over the 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: last couple of cycles is basically understanding who's voting, when 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: they're voting, and how they're voting, and then as campaign 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: cycle gets, you know, closer and closer in November, knocking 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: them off their voteral list. 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: More than sixteen hundred seriously ill prisoners have been freed 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: from the Mcala Prison and the Democratic Republic of Congo 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: to help ease overcrowding issues. The prison has a capacity 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: and get this, you thought we had a problem with 38 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: overcrowding in prisons, has a capacity of fifteen hundred people 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: but has been holding twelve thousand. Earlier in the month, 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty nine prisoners died while attempting to escape. 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: Here in New Zealand, can we signists have discovered a 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: new species of ghost shark. The narrow nosed spookfish lives 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: in depths of up to two thousand, six hundred meters. 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: Was once thought to be part of a globally distributed species, 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: but new research shows it's genetically different. Newas's ghost sharks habits, sorry, habitats, 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: can make them difficult to study and monitor. 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 8: We know where it lives, but we know a little 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 8: bit about what it eats, but we have no idea 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 8: how long they live. We have no idea what their 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 8: population side is. 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: Like the news you need this morning and the in 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Sis City, 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: New Zealand's furniture beds and a plying store, news. 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: Talk said, be hence the ghost part of it. I 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: suppose if you have been sitting back in your comfortable 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: lounge chair laughing at the Wellington meres and competition, that 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: her arrogance over the last couple of weeks since she 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: took office, really laugh no more. This is not a 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: Wellington problem. She and Wellington City Council are also our problem. 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: There's Treasury advice that says this applies to all councils, 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: but it gets specific about Wellington. In a second Treasury 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: advice says that councils, including Wellington's, represent a large contingent 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: liability on the Crown's balance sheet. That means they are 64 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: our problem in the event of a natural disaster. And 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: this is specifically talking about the airport, the airport shares. 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: Obviously they're making a decision shortly on whether they should 67 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: sell them or keep them it. Wellington City Council has 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: around seven hundred and twenty five million dollars of insurance 69 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: protection for assets. The replacement value is around seventeen billion dollars. 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: The maximum probable loss is somewhere between five billion and 71 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: seventeen billion dollars. The advice secifically sites the risk created 72 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: by Wellington City Council's airport shares. It says Wellington Airport's value, 73 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: for example, will deteriorate after a natural disaster, the same 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: point at which Wellington City Council may wish to draw 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: down on its balance sheets. So basically we would have 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: to pick up the tab, wouldn't we? And how are 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: they going to vote on this? We have no idea. 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: Who knows, They're all over the place, don't know if 79 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: the Arthur or Martha. So if basically, if Wellington is 80 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: hit by a natural disaster other than Torrey Faro they're 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: up shit creek and we're left holding the paddle. 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: Raymbridge Life. 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: Just gone ten minutes after five year on News Talks. 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: There'd be some good news for you this morning out 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: of China. Obviously, we need a strong China. We need 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: a strong Chinese consumer because we sell them a lot 87 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: of stuff. China is fighting back against their downturn. They're 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: pulling out the big guns. The People's Bank of China 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: governor has announced plans. They're cutting the amount of cash 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: that banks have to have on reserve, freeze up money 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: for them to land, which should hopefully kickstart the economy 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: a little bit. They're also cutting interest rates on existing 93 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: mortgages to try and help as the struggling property sector. 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 2: So that is good news for us this morning. Eleven 95 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: minutes after five, we're talking Hiszbula and Israel next. 96 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: twenty four on Early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: furniture Beds and a play at store News Talks. 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: It'd be thirteen after five News Talks. It'd be great 100 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: to have your company. Nine two ninety two is the 101 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: number to text. We'd love to hear from you. This morning, 102 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Traders warning Kiwis to 103 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: leave Lebanon now if they haven't already. It comes as 104 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: the fighting continues between Israel and Hezbila, and more than 105 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty people, including fifty children, according to 106 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: the Lebanese Health Ministry, have died just this week. I'm 107 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: joined now by Stephen Hoadley, retired professor of International Relations. 108 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, Stephen, thanks for being with me. 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 9: Good morning, Marian. 110 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Let's start with this attack overnight. Israel claims to have 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: killed a senior commander, a senior Hezbola commander in charge 112 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: of their missile systems. They've dropped two thousand weapons on 113 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred targets inside Lebanon just in the last day. 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: And what do you make of those developments. 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 9: Well, this is all part of Israel's attempt to stop 116 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 9: the missiles firing into Israel. Israel is fighting an existential 117 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 9: war that means a war for its very existence against 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 9: the surrounding Arab hostel, Iranian backed opponents that are trying 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 9: to eliminate that Israel from the map. So Israel, it 120 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 9: takes the view that these civilian casualties are unfortunate, but 121 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 9: necessary in an all out war against those who would 122 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 9: do is harm. Now, I was glad to hear that 123 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 9: you said, according to the Lebanese Ministry of Health about 124 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 9: the five hundred casualties, what you could also have said 125 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 9: the Hesbellah dominated ministry of Health. I've got an article 126 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 9: in front of me from the Washington Post. It says 127 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 9: Israel's military targeted a school in Gaza. What it didn't 128 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 9: say is that it targeted a Hesbelah command headquarters that 129 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 9: had taken over a school in Gaza. And this is 130 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 9: I think the bias of the news media that it's 131 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 9: easy to report on the casualties, the women and children, 132 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 9: the collapsed buildings, the explosions. What is more difficult to 133 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 9: report is what are the reasons behind this? Why is 134 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 9: Israel doing these things? And Israel does have a point 135 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 9: of view that I believe the media are not presenting 136 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 9: as fully as they are presenting the victimhood of those casualties. 137 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: And as Ntinnya who said overnight, anyone who has a 138 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: missile in their living room or a rocket in their 139 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: garage will not have a home, making the point that 140 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: he's not going after Lebanon he's going after Hezbolah. 141 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, a very good point. And also, as you well know, 142 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 9: Israel issues boardings tells people that they know there's a 143 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 9: Hezbola facility nearby, a rocket launching facility, a command post, 144 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 9: a cache of weapons, to keep their distance because they're 145 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 9: very likely to be a target of an airstrike. And 146 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 9: that's exactly what Israel is doing. This is within the 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 9: guidelines of the laws of war. They're targeting military assets 148 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 9: of Hebelah. They're not targeting civilians. And I think this 149 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 9: is not well appreciated in the way the media is 150 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 9: covering this particular contract. 151 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: But you have to be the attacks on the walkie 152 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: talkies stuff, You're obviously going to hit civilians in the process, 153 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: aren't you. 154 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 9: No, not at all. The walkie talkies and the hit 155 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 9: pagers were specifically given to Habila operatives, but some of them. 156 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: Went off in supermarkets. I mean, you can't stop the 157 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: children getting the fruit in the aisles from being hit too, 158 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: can you. 159 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. And many of the were given by 160 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 9: the operatives to their sons and daughters to play with, 161 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 9: which was against the rules of their own organization. In 162 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 9: the case, a kind of casual corruption of their use 163 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 9: of their assets, and yes there are incidental Servilian casualties, 164 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 9: but again the target, the intent was military assets. 165 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: Stephen, where does this go next? Because there's an interesting 166 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: piece in the Wall Street Journal this morning talking about 167 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: the fact that Israel won't go on a ground offensive 168 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: into Lebanon. They it was basically a draw a stalemate 169 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: last time in two thousand and six, and that there 170 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: are some pretty intense weaponry on the side of the 171 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: Lebanese courtesy of Iran. They won't go in. There is 172 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: the scene. 173 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 9: What happens next, Well, it depends a little bit on 174 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 9: the United States. The United States is urging calm and 175 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 9: negotiations and obviously urging Israel not to escalate, but at 176 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 9: at the same time quietly replenishing Israel's arsenal. And so 177 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 9: Israel does have the weapons, but does it have the manpower? 178 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 9: Does it have the morale? The army is tired, their reservists, 179 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 9: The economy of Israel is difficult because people are away 180 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 9: from their normal professions. Can Israel sustain a ground offensive, 181 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 9: which would be the most efficient way of moving the 182 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 9: Hezbola rockets back to the north past the Litani River? 183 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 9: In accordance with United Nations Resolution seventeen oh one. But 184 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 9: there are doubts that Israel has the capacity to do that. 185 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 9: I expect the grounded, the error attacks will continue, the 186 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 9: artillery attacks will continue. Hopefully Hisbola will be degraded Israel 187 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 9: and their rocket attacks on Israel will will stop, and 188 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 9: consequently there will be a lull. But it's very possible 189 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 9: that in another year or two will see a repeat 190 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 9: of this cycle of silance. 191 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and unfortunately that seems to be a recurring in 192 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: common theme. Stephen Hoadley, a retired professor of international relations 193 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: with US just gone nineteen minutes after five Briana. 194 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 9: That Wall Street. 195 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: Journal article really interesting. So it says that they have 196 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: been given this is via via Iran, an arsenal of rockets, drones, 197 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: and anti tank missiles that they can deploy to counter 198 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: in Israeli advance among its most dangerous new weapons. So 199 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: this is weapons they have received since two thousand and six, 200 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: the last time there was a ground offensive. Is an 201 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Iranian made guided anti tank missile called Almus, the Persian 202 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: word for diamond, which gives has Bill a much higher 203 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: agree of precision in its strikes than when it last fought. 204 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: There was a US intelligence officer who said telling Israel 205 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: to go back into Lebanon would be like saying to 206 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: the United States in nineteen eighty, do you want to 207 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: go back to Vietnam? 208 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 209 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and 210 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: a Flying Store News Talk z'd. 211 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: Be Sweden's brassed offer I Ran, I'll tell you why 212 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: that's coming up just before six this morning, Right now 213 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: though twenty two after five, the government's introducing a new 214 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: aggravating factor for his fences against public transport workers. This 215 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: is after attax on bus drivers and passengers on the 216 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: buses as well has left them bashed and bloodied and bruised. 217 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: Gary Froget is with us. He's the Tramways Union president. Gary. 218 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Ryan, Thanks for being with me. 219 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: Tell me, do you think this aggravating factor for offenses 220 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: is going to help? Is going to two people who 221 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: do this? 222 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 8: Well, I guess it's another weapon in the armory against 223 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 8: this type of crime. It will help make some passengers 224 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 8: think again before assaulting a bus driver. However, it's not 225 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 8: going to be a solution on its own. The quicker 226 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 8: at can install the promise safety screens would be a 227 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 8: much better solution. 228 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: I think yeah, and there is money, they say, money 229 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: coming for that. Why do they generally attack bus drivers? 230 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: What sets it off? 231 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 8: Well, mainly it's over fears. When the driver questions why 232 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 8: their hot card doesn't work, they get aggravated. The driver 233 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 8: usually tells them to take a seat. But in the 234 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 8: last four instances, in the last two weeks, we've discovered 235 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 8: that the passengers come down the aisle and then whack 236 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 8: the driver while he's actually driving the bus. We don't 237 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 8: know what triggers that off. Maybe they don't like authority 238 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 8: being asked to pay their fare. I'm not sure. 239 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: So what are you What are the drivers told to 240 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 2: do in that situation? Are they told to tell them 241 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: to sit down? Or what's the rule? 242 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 8: Well? Often Transportive in this particular case, all Can Transportive 243 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 8: now agree that bus drivers are no longer required to 244 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 8: monitor the fair cards all and the drivers have been 245 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 8: told not to question the passengers, just to let them 246 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 8: take a seat. It's better lose a couple of dollars 247 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 8: than have a bus driver off work for three months 248 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 8: or so. 249 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: I can see the logic. But man, it's a sad 250 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: day when you have to just let them run a mark, 251 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: isn't it? 252 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 8: Yes, it is. It's not acceptable, But I don't have 253 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 8: a solution. We can't have a police officer on every bus, unfortunately, 254 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 8: and we really don't want that. And the old days, 255 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 8: of course, there was a conductor who collected the fares 256 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 8: and they did. There's a type of security. 257 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Gary. What about slamming on the brakes. 258 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 8: Well, that has happened on occasions. One of our drivers 259 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 8: did that. Unfortunately, the bus company didn't like it, and 260 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 8: when he tried to kick the passenger off the bus, 261 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 8: they got upset and tried to threaten him with penalty. So, yeah, 262 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 8: your dad, it's a difficult situation. 263 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: It is rocking a hard place. Gary, thanks very much 264 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: for being with me. Hopefully the new aggravating factor might 265 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: make some difference. That's Gary Frogett. He's the Tramways union president. 266 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: Twenty five minutes after five the Early. 267 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: Edition Full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio. How It by 268 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: News Talks AB. 269 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: You're on Early Edition News Talk ZB. Just gone twenty 270 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: seven after five. It's time I reckon. We started sending 271 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: bills to those protesters for wasting police time and resources. 272 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: I watched yesterday with growing anger as a couple of 273 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: greenpiece people climbed on top of an awning on the 274 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: terrace just one floor up, stood there looking like numpties 275 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: with their overalls and their helmets on. Nothing wrong with protesting, 276 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: but there were eight first responders on the scene, at 277 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: least three police cars, a fire truck. They even had 278 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: to use their cherry picket to get these guys off 279 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: the roof. The cars were at a standstill. Instead of 280 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: solving crime, a poor cot was marshaling traffic to allow 281 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: the fire truck to position itself in place. What a 282 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: waste of time. Just hang your banner and piss off. Please, 283 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: don't waste any more of our time. It's like those 284 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: crazy ones that used to block the motorways and willing 285 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: to remember that. Thank goodness, they seem to have given 286 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: up and gone away. Good riddance. They made people the 287 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: motorway ones. They made people late for their cancer appointments. 288 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: I do hope they're ashamed of themselves for that. This slot, though, 289 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: on the terrace, they can just jog on the courts 290 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: if there are courts. Initial reaction to the motorway ones 291 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: was anything to go by it. You can expect another, 292 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: you know, slap on the wrist with a wet bus 293 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: ticket for this lot. I say send them the bill 294 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: for the police, the use of the police cars, the 295 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: communications center, the fire truck fee, the cherry pecker fee, 296 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: the firefighters charge out rate, double it and make them 297 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: pay it. And if the individuals won't pay for that, 298 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: then send the build a green piece. Twenty nine after 299 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: five Bryan Bridge, Lots more to come on News Talk SEB. 300 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to First Retail Group about the 301 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: facial recognition technology. They've done a trial and lots of 302 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: the supermarkets and the results are out. We'll have those 303 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: for you shortly. 304 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 8: You are reminding you of your daddy in my. 305 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: Laborodor hanging out the passenger door. 306 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: News and Views you Trust. To start your day, It's 307 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: Early Edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 308 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: furniture beds and a flying store. News Talk ZB. 309 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: Good morning, it is twenty four away from six. Welcome 310 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: to Early Edition. You're on News Talk, said Bee. Coming 311 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: up inside the next half hour. Justin Trudeau. They're trying 312 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: to get rid of him. I'll tell you how and 313 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: whether it'll work. Also, we've sent six Defense Force members 314 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: to try and get rid of the hooty attacks in 315 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: the Red Sea. Is it working. We'll look at that. Also, 316 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: we're going to look at Gavin Gray in the UK. 317 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: We'll not look at him, but listen to him. We're 318 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: also going to talk about the food stuffs push for 319 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: facial recognition technology. They're currently doing a trial and they 320 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: are expected to roll it out across all of the 321 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 2: North London stores, so we'll tell you about that too. 322 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: I don't really care if they take a photo. I 323 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: mean you sort of assume when you go into a 324 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: store these days that someone is filming you, or watching 325 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: you or something, don't you. A lot of people upset 326 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: about the fact that we've just heard from the Tramways 327 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: union that bus drivers in Auckland probably everywhere, are being 328 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: told if someone doesn't pay their fair don't ask any questions. 329 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: Least they bash you over the head. Ryan, Why should 330 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: I pay for the bus when the criminals don't have to? Ryan? 331 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: Modern society is pretty disappointing. You don't pay your bus 332 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: fare because you're a thug, while Laura, abiding citizens pay 333 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: as they rightly should. Ryan Another says Hi Ran a 334 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: lack of respect for public transport drivers and the new 335 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: rules coming in probably won't make much of a difference. 336 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: That's from Craig nine. Two ninety two is the number 337 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: to text twenty three to. 338 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: Six, Ryan Bridge. 339 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: We're going to our reporters right around the country, Cluen 340 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: proctors and Dnedian someone and Calumny Deneen High School students 341 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: who were sent home after the threat yesterday or told 342 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: to duck and cover. What was the threat do we know? 343 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 10: Well, we understand it was a bomb threat, Ryan, that 344 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 10: was emailed to Bayfield High School. This is what forced 345 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 10: the shutdown initially and then it was closed for the day. 346 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 10: Police escorting the five hundred and fifty students out of 347 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 10: the school premises after this threatening email was sent. Since then, 348 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 10: a sixteen year old has been arrested in relation. He'll 349 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 10: appear in the Duaneedan youth caught tomorrow. It caused significant 350 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 10: disruptions as you can imagine, this lockdown to roads around 351 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 10: the school, compounded by parents rushing to pick up their children. 352 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 10: Acting principal Mike Beagley's told us the school will open 353 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 10: as normal today after getting the all clear from police. Remember, 354 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 10: the school also went into lockdown, a two hour lockdown 355 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 10: last November following a similar online threat. 356 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: Oh goodness for me, so yeah. I did wonder whether 357 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: it was one of those international threats, but it sounds 358 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: like it's a local boy. How's your weather today. 359 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 10: Colum fine, cloud increasing, westerly's turn northerly and fourteen today brilliant. 360 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: Thank you have a great one, Claire shewarods and christ 361 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: Church clear, you're already going and talking about next year's 362 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: rates in christ Church. 363 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 11: Yes, that's the case here in christ Church, Ryan. The 364 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 11: first public briefing on the annual plan for twenty twenty 365 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 11: five twenty six was held yesterday. Counselors had their first 366 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 11: discussions about next year's raids. The rates increase which they've 367 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 11: set out in the long term Plan has it sitting 368 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 11: at about eight point four to five percent, although it's 369 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 11: not looking hopeful. It's already being signaled that the recent 370 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 11: official forecasts on inflation are higher than the forecasts they 371 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 11: used to form that eight point four five percent figure. 372 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 11: Council's General Manager of Finance, Risk and Performance B Karen 373 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 11: says that counselors and staff are now working together over 374 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 11: several months to refine the figure and drive it as 375 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 11: low as possible. They do have some further briefings planned 376 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 11: for October, November and December. 377 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: All right, clear, thank you. 378 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 11: The weather today a bit frosty to start, Otherwise clearing 379 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 11: to find with some evening high cloud at southwesterlies and 380 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 11: a high of thirteen. 381 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: Nice one, have a good day there, max Is and 382 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: Wellington Hamax the mayor the latest. 383 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 12: Yes well surely after she was interviewed for TV, which 384 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 12: had Sunday toy Fino went on a very obscure podcast 385 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 12: for an hour long interview exactly exactly the same length 386 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 12: of interview she does for Newstalk ZB which she been bemoaning, 387 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 12: only this one didn't have breaks, which is odd then 388 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 12: that she would blame exhaustion for her TV interview a 389 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 12: quote not going well, that the interviewer asked hard questions, 390 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 12: but also generally speaking, she doesn't think the level of 391 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 12: criticism she's been getting lately is normal and rather because 392 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 12: she is a progressive woman much like Jacinda Ardurn. She 393 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 12: told this podcast that coming into the job should assumed 394 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 12: mayors flew under the radar a bit more, and that 395 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 12: the new side of things completely blindsided her and it's 396 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 12: been a massive learning curve. Also that the criticism that 397 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 12: she's been receiving from the so called privileged who are 398 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 12: against her push for progressive change, many of whom are 399 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 12: anti Cycleway. She's also been looking for whatever way she 400 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 12: can to get out of a Mildi Ward referendum and 401 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 12: is keen to break the law if she and the 402 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 12: council can. 403 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: Can you tell what do people really think about this? 404 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: In Wellington? 405 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 12: I can tell you that even the people who have 406 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 12: defended her term are turning again against her and you'll 407 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 12: find it hard to find a defender of her and 408 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 12: her comments lately. 409 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much. Oh you're weather today, Max, 410 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: She'll be fine. Southerly's fourteen, Thank you very much. Neva's 411 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: and Auckland, Hey, Neva, good morning. Tell us about Sale GP. 412 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 13: Yes, well this is positive because thousands of spectators now 413 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 13: they're likely to arrive here in Auckland for Sale GP. 414 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 13: Now this event will be making its debut in January 415 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 13: next year and the tickets they go on sale today. 416 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 13: So of course the organizers they withdrew their bid to 417 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 13: host the race against again rather in christ Church's Littleton Harbor. 418 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 13: Remember that was a decision when the marine was impacted. 419 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 13: You know the events the dolphins. So I don't think 420 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 13: there'll be any dolphins here, you know their waterfront, surely not. 421 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 13: Nick hel the Tatucki, Auckland Unlimited chief executive. He said, 422 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 13: this is great news for Auckland. You know, he's going 423 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 13: to boost GDP by at least five million dollars and 424 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 13: they're really really excited about this. So, as I said before, 425 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 13: tickets go on sale today and hopefully fingers crossed that 426 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 13: when you'd caught a footbridge will be fir You'd have. 427 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: To think so, wouldn't you? Because does this kickoff? Is 428 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: it this summer? 429 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 13: Yeap, this summer, so this will kick off in January. 430 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be cool. 431 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 6: Oh it'd be. 432 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 13: Great and hopefully well I think the footbridge should be 433 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 13: fixed by December. They need some business going their way. 434 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 8: They do. 435 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: All it will take them neither is one dead dolphin 436 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: and it's all over. They'll send it somewhere else. They 437 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: didn't even there were they weren't even you're right, you 438 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean. There weren't even any dead dolphins 439 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: in christ and they lost it. 440 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 13: Jim Jinxon, Now I shouldn't say that. 441 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: Has the weather today never fine? 442 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 13: Fine apart from warning cloud high sixteen. Is it a 443 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 13: good day for a dolphin to be, you know, smimming. 444 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: Around here to be killed? It's ever a good day 445 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 2: for a dolphin to be killed? Neither, thank you. 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Sweden is upset with Iranian intelligence. 474 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: What's going on? 475 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 14: Yes, you may remember the story about twelve months ago 476 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 14: when fifteen thousand texts were sent to different Swedes basically 477 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 14: saying that they wanted revenge against Koran burners. Now, what 478 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 14: had happened was that Sweden's government condemned a number of 479 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 14: people burning the Quran and police tried to ban them, 480 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 14: but the courts allowed the burning of Kuran in Sweden 481 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 14: under freedom of expression laws. Lots of Muslims were not happy. Indeed, 482 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 14: Sweden's embassy in Iraq were set alight by protesters. Then 483 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 14: all these texts started arriving in people's emails on people's 484 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 14: phones rather saying that they should consider revenge against the 485 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 14: Koran burners. Well, now, after all this work, Sweden's security 486 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 14: service SAPO said these texts were sent by the Iranian 487 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 14: intelligence service connected to the Revolutionary Guards and they had 488 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 14: basically managed it in some way to get hold of 489 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 14: the Swedish company's SMS service, takeover passwords, usernames and other 490 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 14: tools before sending a message to private individuals, and the 491 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 14: message was quote those who insulted the Quran must be 492 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 14: punished for their work. Can the Swedes do anything about it? No, 493 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 14: because although they think they know who was behind it, 494 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 14: I'm afraid there is no extradition treaty, so there won't 495 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 14: be any punishment for those they suspect. 496 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: Gevin, we have a brief moment to talk about the 497 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: police in Switzerland making a couple of erasi in relation 498 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: to a suicide pod. 499 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 14: Yes, very unusual. So this suicide pod is basically one 500 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 14: which allows people to operate it on their own and 501 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 14: end their own life without medical super You basically step 502 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 14: into this pod and it will kill you. As I said, 503 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 14: without medical supervision, you can do it all on your own. Now, 504 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 14: Switzerland does allow assisted dying, but there has been a 505 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 14: lot of debate about the Sarco pod. Indeed, some say 506 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 14: it's not safe. The design of it almost glamorizes suicide. 507 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 14: But now we learn there has been what we think 508 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 14: is the first suicide in a Sarco pod on the 509 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 14: border of the Switzerland, and it is being said that 510 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 14: could be the very very first case of its kind. 511 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 14: We're not yet being told the identity of the person 512 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 14: that's believed to take in their own life. 513 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: All right, Devin, thank you for Thatkevin Gray are UK 514 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: europe correspondent just gone eleven minutes away from. 515 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: Six Ryan Bridge. 516 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: Foodstuffs has found that facial recognition technology has reduced serious 517 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 2: harm and retail crime and its stores. It's been trialing 518 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: them in twenty five stores. They say it's avoided an 519 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: estimated one hundred and thirty serious harmful incidents like assault 520 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: and verbal abuse. The total retail crime down eight percent 521 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: quarter on quarter four thy seven hundred incidents still between 522 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: April and during though Chris Wilkinson is the first retail group, 523 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: it's a retail consultancy. Chris, good morning. Heure Ryan, are 524 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: we sure that it's the facial recognition that's behind the drop? 525 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: Look, there are multiple factors. We've got a new police minister, 526 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 5: there's a letter of expectation with the police, there's more 527 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 5: determination around the sector and that's had a ripple effect 528 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 5: through New Zealand. 529 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: So positively, the camera recognizes somebody and goes, oh, I 530 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: remember you, you were a bad egg, and then what happens, Well. 531 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 5: That lets the staff know in the stores and then 532 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 5: they can take action so they can make sure that 533 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 5: there are more people on the floor to protect those 534 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 5: that are vulnerable, to protect the customers. You know, this 535 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 5: is all about being proactive in stopping these potential risks 536 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 5: to firstly people in terms of safety, but then also 537 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 5: that loss. So safety is the key aspect here. 538 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: What do they actually do because up until now, it 539 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: was my understanding the security guards couldn't really force anyone 540 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: out of the store. So if you're trying to deal 541 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 2: with somebody physically who hasn't even committed a crime yet, 542 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: how do you deal with that? 543 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 5: Well, the likelihood Ryan is that people have been trespassed 544 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: from those premises, so lugally they shouldn't be here. No, 545 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 5: there won't be that physical altercation. That's the time when 546 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 5: police need to be called in. But again we've got 547 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 5: much more responsiveness to this now with police because of 548 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: that letter of expectation. 549 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: It's interesting, So the government's rhetorical messaging is actually having 550 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: an impact. 551 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 5: You reckon, very significant impact. 552 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, Chris, Thank you very much for your time. 553 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 2: Chris Wilkinson, First Retail Group managing director. It sounds like 554 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: Foodstuffs is liking the cut of this jib and they'll probably, 555 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: I reckon roll it out into other stores. Just gone 556 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: nine away from six Bryan Bridge. Thank you for all 557 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: of your chicks and your feedback this morning. Sorry I 558 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 2: haven't got to all of it. Here is one from Delia. 559 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: Delia says, good morning, Ryan, loving your show. Thanks Delia, 560 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: that's lovely to hear. Just on the subject of buses, 561 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: we were talking about assaults on bus drivers, etc. Last 562 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: Friday afternoon, I witnessed three Westlake girls board the bus 563 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: via the back door and not pay a cent when 564 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: they got off, they said, beat beep to the scanning machine. 565 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: Very disappointing to see this reflected on the school. So 566 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: am I Delia. By the way, we asked Tory Fano 567 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: on the show. We've been asking her for a while. 568 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: I know it's early, so I do understand. But Leo, 569 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: our producer lee, I've lost the piece of paper. But 570 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: basically he said, we can do any day in the 571 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: next two weeks or the next week, at least in 572 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: the next few weeks. Any pre recorded time, any live time, anyone. 573 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: She's not available at any time of the day or night. 574 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: Probably a good thing for her, I would think. Eight 575 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: Away from six News Talks mb. 576 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: A fine, Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on 577 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and 578 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: a playing Store. News TALKSB. 579 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: Five away from six News Talks, heb quick update. We've 580 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: sent some Defense Force members to go and help the 581 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: US and the UK try and get the HOOTI rebels. 582 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: The leader of Yemen says it's not working. What they're 583 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: doing is not reducing the huties' military capabilities. Also in Canada, 584 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: justin Trudeau, they're going to try and get rid of 585 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: him this week. This is the Conservative Party. He's been 586 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: in power for almost ten years. It's not going to work, 587 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: but there will be election held by mid next year, 588 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: five away from six now, and Mike's in the studio. 589 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 7: Good morning, morning, Andrew Costa. This morning, let me ask 590 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 7: you this question. So the management of this company come 591 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 7: to you and they go, look, Ryan, we want you 592 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 7: to do a bit of this and a bit of that. 593 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 7: And you're thinking to yourself, that's not really going to work, 594 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 7: and it's not who I am. 595 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 6: Would you do. 596 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: It depends how desperate you are for a job. 597 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 6: Well, see that's so you look at Costa. 598 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 7: Costa was appointed by adourn as being a sort of 599 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 7: a liberal type operator, so he seemed comfortable in that role, 600 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 7: and he took all the heat for it. And then 601 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 7: a new government comes in and they tell him to 602 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 7: do something else. So he's one of those guys who 603 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 7: just does what he's told. So I want you to 604 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 7: police hard, I want you to police soft, and he 605 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 7: seems sort of comfortable. 606 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 6: It's a weird job. I couldn't do. 607 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: It, but that is the point of the public service 608 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: meant to be chameleons. 609 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 6: I guess it is I guess. 610 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 7: It's it's but I mean, when it comes to policing 611 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 7: and you're an it and you've been in the police 612 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 7: force your whole life, you must know what's right and 613 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 7: wrong and works and doesn't, which. 614 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: Is why the front line used to hate him so viscerally, right, 615 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: because that's like that, that is not what we're here 616 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: to do. 617 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 7: And then so part of your job would be to 618 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 7: go to a season copy and he goes, Andrew, you 619 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 7: know full well this is bollocks, and he'd go, what 620 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 7: do I do? 621 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 6: You see what I mean? 622 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 7: We're in a position a anyway, So he's off to 623 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 7: do social investment whatever that is. 624 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 6: Anyway, he's with us. He's with us after seven o'clock. 625 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: Sounds good. Yeah, alright, Mic is with you next. I 626 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: will see you tomorrow. Have a great. 627 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 11: Day of the Nutty. 628 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: For more from News Talks at b listen live on 629 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 3: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 630 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.