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Speaker 1: New Zealand's Voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 2: News togs Head.

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Speaker 3: Be balling and welcome today. More good news on social housing,

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Speaker 3: new rules on those vapes as of today. New insight

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Speaker 3: into how we see China as well as the States.

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Speaker 3: Nico Portius in for a word about retirement, Ian Foster

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Speaker 3: and for a word about coaching care from Field does

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Speaker 3: France and Roy Little is in the heat wave in

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Speaker 3: the UK Lasky Tuesday morning, seven past six. Last week,

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Speaker 3: when Shawn Johnson was in the studio, we were discussing retirement,

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Speaker 3: not mine, but that's a growing fascination to me these days.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you when do you know? I mean,

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Speaker 3: when do you know? If you're not getting canceled or

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Speaker 3: run out of town or falling apart, how do you know?

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Speaker 3: John Key famously had nothing left in the tank. Remember

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Speaker 3: that Johnson was explaining it was important for him to

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Speaker 3: go out when he decided, not when he got dropped.

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Speaker 3: The television stuff he does nowadays was something he was

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Speaker 3: interested in, but he didn't know how that was going

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Speaker 3: to unfold. And Johnson at thirty four seemed young enough

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Speaker 3: to me anyway. So then I look at people. Tom

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Speaker 3: Brady in his mid forties, One more season, one more

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Speaker 3: chance at greatness, goes out a hero with another Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl win. I look at Aaron Rodgers. If you follow

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Speaker 3: the NFL, he's just signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers this year.

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Speaker 3: Looks like he's gone a season two long. Looks like

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Speaker 3: he's looking for work when he should really be looking

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Speaker 3: for life after football. Maybe the season will make a

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Speaker 3: fool of meat, but I doubt it. But all of

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Speaker 3: that pales when it comes to Nico Portius. He's walking

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Speaker 3: away from his snowsport career at twenty three. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to use the word retirement, but equally he won't

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Speaker 3: be at the Olympics anymore as our most successfull ever

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Speaker 3: sport exponent or snow exponent. It's over. He also doesn't

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Speaker 3: know what he's going to do or what his future

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Speaker 3: looks like, but he's enjoyed, apparently videos and video production,

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Speaker 3: so maybe there's a pathway there. How do you decide

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Speaker 3: that at twenty three? I mean, how do you know

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Speaker 3: that's right? Who advises you? And how do you know

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Speaker 3: they're right? Having spent your entire life aiming for the

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Speaker 3: one big thing sporting excellence? How do you pull that

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Speaker 3: cord when you have if you want years to go?

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Speaker 3: Are you one of those people who can walk away

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Speaker 3: from that level of exhilaration and success and not look bad?

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Speaker 3: I mean, is that part of the thrill? Not knowing

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Speaker 3: what's ahead? Will you keep the scrap book of memories?

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Speaker 3: Will you tell your kids or grandkids about the half

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Speaker 3: pipe when they ask how come dad can do flips

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Speaker 3: on skis when they first go to Kadrona as a family?

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Speaker 3: What a big call? How so much ahead of him?

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Speaker 3: Or was what he did plenty? Is that a good

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Speaker 3: way to see life? I mean, I admire him personally

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Speaker 3: as he reckless could be maybe he's an insightful genius.

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Speaker 3: Either way, I admire him. At twenty three, I would

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Speaker 3: have tortured myself and probably still wouldn't have done what

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Speaker 3: he's done.

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Speaker 3: Vers after seven thirty. Let's start in Canada with the

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Speaker 3: G seven's being held. Host Mark did some initials sucking

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Speaker 4: The G seven is nothing without us leadership, then so

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Speaker 3: Donald who launched his own mobile network this morning, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you about that. In the moment he was thinking

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Speaker 2: Has gone over the dam. Maybe, but it was a

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Speaker 2: big mistake. Obama didn't want them, and the.

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Speaker 1: Head of your country, the crowd ahead of your country,

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Speaker 3: This is a big mistake, as Lady's talking about. Meantime,

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Speaker 3: in the Middle East, some Iranian shells got through to

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Speaker 3: was the end of the bulletin. In Britain, a potential

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Speaker 3: scandal over grooming gang. So the government didn't really want

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Speaker 3: So the Tories are worried.

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Speaker 5: The survivors need to have someone who is independent that

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Speaker 6: It is no use them being forced to speak to

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Speaker 6: the same authorities who ignored them in the first place.

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Speaker 3: In Starma, who's in Canada. He looks bad now, but

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Speaker 7: Saving as a vile offense, absolutely vile. And I brought

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Speaker 7: the first prosecution when I was chief prosecutor really fifteen

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Speaker 7: years ago now, so I've seen the impact directly on victims.

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Speaker 3: He's quite good at that stuff. If you missed at

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Speaker 8: When they opened the door, Belter shine the flashlight in

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Speaker 8: in the house. When Senator Hoffman attempted to push Belter

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Speaker 3: Finally, new research from scientists Dount Australia in Finland, they

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Speaker 3: ventalyzed one point seven billion woods online to identify five

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Speaker 3: hundred ninety seven different sweet word forms. That includes ecronyms

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Speaker 3: and creative spellings. By the way, so wte for example,

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Speaker 3: that counts so yes, who swears the most? It's the Americans.

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Speaker 3: The Americans are the very sweary people, followed by the Brits,

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Speaker 3: then Australia. Then this will surprise you Singapore, we come

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Speaker 3: and fifth backs, use the world and exclusives in nineteenth boyd,

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Speaker 3: do I have some good news and it's more than welcome.

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Speaker 3: We've got some retail sales from China. More on that

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Speaker 3: So I told you about SmartLess the other day. So

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Speaker 3: Trump Organization overnight they've got the mobile phone plan four

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Speaker 3: a plan. It's launching this September. It's called Trump Mobile

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Speaker 3: American flag. The wireless service is called the forty seven Plan.

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Speaker 3: I can Countsey he's not thinking about the stuff. Fifteen

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Speaker 3: past six from Devin Funds Management, Greg Morning, Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 3: This Abu RB thing I'm assuming is going to be

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Speaker 10: Have been pretty receptive to the approach. The offers come

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Speaker 10: from a companies that's the twelfth largest in the world

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Speaker 10: eight dollars eighty nine ossie per year. That's a twenty

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Speaker 10: It actually follows to previous confidential cash offers at lower

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Speaker 10: isn't given all prices have been on a bit of

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Speaker 10: But yeah, the regulators could have a big say here,

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Speaker 3: Yeah all right, and what about tour ors some holdings

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Speaker 10: few conditions, including the independent experts of poor TLS board

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Speaker 3: Is this retail good news?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, a better showing than we thoughts A retail sales

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Speaker 10: up six point four percent last month, fastest pace since

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Speaker 10: December twenty twenty three, smashed or estimates industry output that

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Speaker 9: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: How much of this whole thing is being driven by

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Speaker 9: The hard data really is the fact that we have

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Speaker 9: smoking from twenty twenty to twenty twenty three, massive decline,

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Speaker 9: seen them, I've seen them, the attractiveness of these vaping stores.

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Speaker 9: They look like a smiggle shop, you.

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Speaker 11: Know that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Is this material? So is what's happening today a game

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Speaker 9: It is a step forward, and that's the part that

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Speaker 9: we have to you know, we we have to keep

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Speaker 9: next state that we need to move to. But this

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Speaker 9: we're now attacking the displays. And this legislation was passed

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Speaker 3: I was reading some numbers the other day. There needs

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Speaker 9: I think we will still see further declines. I think

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Speaker 9: we're looking really good. And if you think of that,

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Speaker 9: you know, three years we had two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 9: thousand the year is feasible. It's possible. And what we

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Speaker 9: once the survey data comes out. What is encouraging though,

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Speaker 3: Were you never attempted to go to the Australian script route, No, we.

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Speaker 9: Still we were very keen to maintain availability for those

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Speaker 9: tools that I think they need.

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Speaker 3: Those shops, do you reckon? They're laundering money? There's so

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Speaker 9: Well, given my work on organized crime, I'd be really

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Speaker 3: But I think a new want to part was one

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Speaker 9: And the other thing is that you've got to look

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Speaker 3: not only that, but I ended up did I end

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Speaker 3: up enjoying it? I'll tell you more about it. Six

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Speaker 3: forty five.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 9: Oh, I'm fine, Thank you night.

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Speaker 3: How much does it play? Macrons? There? I mean, how

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Speaker 3: much does it play in this G seven. Is this

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Speaker 3: going to be a body air feest or is something

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Speaker 3: substained going to come out of this? Given what they've

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Speaker 3: got on their plate, which is quite a lot.

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Speaker 6: What they're hoping might is nothing comes out of this.

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Speaker 6: Remember twenty eighteen G seven, the last time Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: was at a G seven meeting, also held in Canada,

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Speaker 6: he left early after falling out with a photo. That photo,

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Speaker 6: so they're hoping that will not happen again. The message

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Speaker 6: they want to get across you, and we're already seeing

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Speaker 6: those informal talks taking place, is please Trump dial it

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Speaker 6: down on the tariffs. You have a fair predictable open

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Speaker 6: trade arrangement with everyone, you know, don't carry on with

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Speaker 6: this threat of tariff. Of course, if these tariffs come in, Mike,

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Speaker 6: you're talking about July ninth, fifty percent tariffs for the Europeans.

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Speaker 6: So essentially I think it is don't rock the boat,

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Speaker 6: don't upset him, and there's not going to be this

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Speaker 6: big single statement at the end of the dew seventh summit.

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Speaker 6: What they're hoping is there were just individual ones to

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Speaker 6: do with individual meetings such as trade, and then there'll

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Speaker 6: be the economy, and then there will be environment.

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Speaker 3: And then we come to the parisee Show, which is

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Speaker 3: the major ratio globally, and you've got this here India thing,

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Speaker 3: and I'm assuming there's a sort of there's some serious

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Speaker 3: concern about what's happened here and how this is going

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Speaker 3: to unfold, and sort of it's killed the buzz not

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Speaker 3: to put two fine a point on it.

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Speaker 6: Well, you're quite right. This is the Parishow that's the

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Speaker 6: aerospace and defense industry showcase, rarely happens every two years,

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Speaker 6: and Boeing has really the crisis at Boeing has cast

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Speaker 6: the shadow over it. So first off, you've got that

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Speaker 6: Air India, the seven eight seven Dreamliner which crash. Of

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Speaker 6: course we still don't know what caused that crash, but

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Speaker 6: of course this came afterward. Also had these the two

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Speaker 6: crashes involving the seven three seven Max And of course

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Speaker 6: don't forget that twenty twenty four Alaskan Airlines plane where

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Speaker 6: the door panel flew off. So still the question marks

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Speaker 6: safety and security versus profitability. And then of course, at

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Speaker 6: the last minute, the CEO of Boeing decided to not

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Speaker 6: come to the Paris Air Show so that's brought it

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Speaker 6: back and to focus. The other thing, of course, Mike

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Speaker 6: is again back to tariff's. You've also got this economic slowdown,

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Speaker 6: and you've got the aviation and aerospace industries which have

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Speaker 6: really got globalized supply chains, so they're worried about tariffs

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Speaker 6: because that means that it's just going to weigh down

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Speaker 6: the industry and make it even more difficult. And we've

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Speaker 6: already had companies like Airbus saying that they're having trouble

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Speaker 6: getting fuel efficient engines and even toilets for some of

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Speaker 6: their planes simply because of delays, and they're still getting

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Speaker 6: over The delays.

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Speaker 3: From COVID were so interesting. I've become fascinated with this

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Speaker 3: so called over tourism. And there's no question of this

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Speaker 3: iber tourism. There are parts of the world that look

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Speaker 3: ridiculously I mean, who wants to go to Greece and

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Speaker 3: forty degrees and sweat it out with about nine million

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Speaker 3: other people? But the Spanish seem to have taken to

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Speaker 3: this with alacrity in their water pistols. But do you

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Speaker 3: do you see it all over Europe or is it specific?

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Speaker 6: You see it in the big place? You see it

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Speaker 6: in Venice. You see it in Athens, you really do

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Speaker 6: see it in Paris. Paris is really suffering. I'm not

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Speaker 6: sure if that's the right word.

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Speaker 10: Year.

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Speaker 6: Everyone who saw Paris Olympics on TV. Since we've now

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Speaker 6: decided this year is the time to come to Paris.

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Speaker 6: So you've got over tourism here. It's just your locals

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Speaker 6: say that it drives up housing costs. It this place

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Speaker 6: is locals that you've got water stress, you've got housing stress,

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Speaker 6: you've got public transport stress. And it's not that they

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Speaker 6: don't want the tourist, Mike. What they're saying is you've

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Speaker 6: got to have a sustainable tourism practice in place, and

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Speaker 6: you've got to listen to the local community or you

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Speaker 6: will get places. You get what were once vibrant neighborhoods

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Speaker 6: will just close down because there's tourism apartments. Even though

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Speaker 6: they're heavily regulated now they just do away with the buzz.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, we also saw today the Love closed down

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Speaker 6: because the workers said.

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Speaker 3: Look on So when you say the Loove closed down,

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Speaker 3: So I was standing there looking at the paintings, and

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Speaker 3: the staff just suddenly decided that there were too many

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Speaker 3: people there. So they're on strike. Is that how that works?

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Speaker 1: Pretty much how it went.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the Louver has been saying for ages

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Speaker 6: that the building just cannot cope. And it used to

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Speaker 6: have a daily quote of about forty five thousand entrants.

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Speaker 6: Now they've reduced that to thirty thousand, but it's still

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Speaker 6: too much. You just really it's hot. We all love

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Speaker 6: the Louver, but it's not built as an art gallery.

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Speaker 9: It was a palace.

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Speaker 6: It's not meant to have thirty thousand people wandering their

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Speaker 6: twenty thousand of them just going to look at the

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Speaker 6: Monna Lisa. So they say it's not good for the building.

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Speaker 6: It's difficult to work there. And you know that famous

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Speaker 6: pyramid that they've got which they've put into the courtyard there,

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Speaker 6: which you either loved it or you hated it. Well,

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Speaker 6: if you're underneath that, mike, if you're underneath that and

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Speaker 6: you've got a glass pyramid on top of you, it

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Speaker 6: is really hot. There's not enough aircn and they said, look,

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Speaker 6: you know, get on top of this. You've found enough

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Speaker 6: money to rebuild. On to day trying to do something

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Speaker 6: about the loop.

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Speaker 3: All what it's a great pleasure. Katherine Catherine Field in

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Speaker 3: France every Tuesday morning. It's nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities News, togs

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Speaker 1: Head be.

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Speaker 3: The department I thought initially, I thought too Scottish, too dark,

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Speaker 3: too grizzly, too miserable. Change my mind. It's not slow Horses,

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Speaker 3: but it's slow Horses esque with blood. So if you

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Speaker 3: don't like Grizzly, don't worry about it. Guy Richie esque

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Speaker 3: in that. Do you see a lot of heads smacked

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Speaker 3: with blood exploding out of them? You see a lot

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Speaker 3: of that. A lot of Scotland's miserable, isn't It just

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Speaker 3: looks miserable anyway? It's got vibes of another series, hasn't

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Speaker 3: It could go forever? Was my summation at the end

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Speaker 3: of it. It's established enough characters and giving you enough

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Speaker 3: leads to think that maybe there's there's more where that

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Speaker 3: came from. But if you've got nothing else on the

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Speaker 3: long weekend department queue, it's on Netflix five minutes away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 2: All the inns are the ouse. It's the Fizz with

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Speaker 2: business fiber. Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Houting news. Do I see you hit of confidence here?

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Speaker 3: I might latest QB Price Index nationwide values up zero

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Speaker 3: point one percent on the month. National average nine thirteen thousand,

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Speaker 3: which is one point one percent lower than last year

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Speaker 3: this time and fourteen percent lower than peak. Have a

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Speaker 3: look around the place. Fungar eight up for the month

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Speaker 3: three point two percent, Northern booming two point two percent

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Speaker 3: for the month, Hastings Nelson up one point one percent,

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Speaker 3: Christ which, of course continues it's upward trajectory to the

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Speaker 3: moon one point three percent, Hamilton Towering also up. Auckland

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Speaker 3: down a smidge, Wellington down one point seven, Palmerston down

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Speaker 3: zero point nine, Donners down zero point eight. So average prices,

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Speaker 3: you want a few average prices just for funzies or

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Speaker 3: than one point two four mil by A twenty eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty six thousand, New Plumbuth seven twenty three,

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Speaker 3: well Inton eate twenty nine, Nelsonato two, Marlborough seven hundred,

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Speaker 3: West Coast four thirty three, Come on by two Dunedin

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Speaker 3: six forty one point eighty one in Queenstown in Bicargo

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Speaker 3: five hundred and seven. Rent. I've got more good news.

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Speaker 3: I feel I need more good news. Rents are predicted

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Speaker 3: to remain subdued. Until well into next year. This from

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Speaker 3: real estate this morning, on average, you were fourteen. If

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Speaker 3: you're renting, you are fourteen on average fourteen hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: a year better off than you were this time last year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't argue with those numbers. Average number

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Speaker 3: for a rent in this country six thirty three, which

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Speaker 3: is down twenty seven dollars a week, which is the

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Speaker 3: lowest point since December of twenty twenty three. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: if the government's done anything at ours and they've sorted

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Speaker 3: out that rental, it's gone backwards now. So yes, we'll

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Speaker 3: go to the Middle East. I mean, how many days

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Speaker 3: you want to go to the Middle East. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to underplay the seriousness of what's going

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Speaker 3: on here, but this as regional. They might be rewriting

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Speaker 3: the Middle East, and the Saudis and the Israelis may

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Speaker 3: get together if the run doesn't have enough missiles to

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Speaker 3: defend themselves after a few weeks. I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: this strikes me as more regional than it does global

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Speaker 3: at the moment. God some good news on housing that

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Speaker 3: I need to talk to you about. Nico Portiers. He's

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Speaker 3: quitting after I was going to say after twenty three years. No,

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Speaker 3: at the age of twenty three years, it's quit.

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Speaker 2: News, opinion and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Doctor the most

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Speaker 1: powerful Defender ever made, and news togs.

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Speaker 3: Dead Beast seven. So the Israeli run conflict enters a

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Speaker 3: fourth day. Death wise so far over two hundred and

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Speaker 3: Iran nineteen in Israel. The features editor at Jewish News

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Speaker 3: Syndicate and former editor in chief at Jerusalem Post, Steve

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Speaker 3: Linda's with a Steve Morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: What's your sense of where this goes over the coming weeks?

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Speaker 3: Do we have any idea or does it just carry on?

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Speaker 13: Well, we've definitely witnessed an escalation since the war be

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Speaker 13: on Friday, so this is the fourth day. We've just

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Speaker 13: had a press conference with Prime Minister Benjamin Atan Yahoo

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Speaker 13: in Israel, and he seems to think that Israel's on

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Speaker 13: the road to victory and that it shouldn't take much longer,

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Speaker 13: although he declined to say whether this would be days

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Speaker 13: or weeks. But we are seeing Iranian ballistic missile attacks

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Speaker 13: pretty much every day, every night, which sends, you know,

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Speaker 13: lots of Israelis into bomb shelters, had at least twenty

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Speaker 13: four people killed since the war began in Israel.

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Speaker 3: When Victor, when he uses the word victory, what does

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Speaker 3: victory look like?

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Speaker 13: Well, for him, I think victory looks like the end

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Speaker 13: of Iran's nuclear capabilities. On a visit to Iran to

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Speaker 13: an Israeli air base today, he said that victory is

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Speaker 13: the end of Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities. So

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Speaker 13: he said that Israel's on the path to achieving these

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Speaker 13: two goals now that the air space two Tehran is open.

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Speaker 3: What's your sense of the Steve, Are we rewriting the

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Speaker 3: Middle East here or are we simply in a skirmish

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Speaker 3: that will curtail nuclear ambitions.

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Speaker 13: Well, from Nataniao's point of view, he's clearly trying to

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Speaker 13: change the face of the Middle East and realigning forces

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Speaker 13: for and against Iran. But it remains to be seen.

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Speaker 13: I think from the Americans point of view, especially Donald Trump,

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Speaker 13: they would like to get Iran back to the negotiating

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Speaker 13: table to strike some kind of a deal diplomatically. So

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Speaker 13: I think they're using this war between Israel and Iran

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Speaker 13: in a way to get Iran to come back into

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Speaker 13: the fold.

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Speaker 3: Any great expectation that anything tangible or material comes out

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Speaker 3: of the jew Seven this week, Well, I mean, like.

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Speaker 2: You, I'm a journalist, so I don't really know.

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Speaker 13: We'll have to wait and see, but I think it's

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Speaker 13: a very interesting situation at the moment, and the war

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Speaker 13: certainly has made things very sensitive. So we'll see, if

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Speaker 13: you know, the nations of the world decide to take

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Speaker 13: a strong stand, certainly with Britain and France supporting Israel

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Speaker 13: as well. At this time, I think, you know, Israel

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Speaker 13: has a few days to try to end this and

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Speaker 13: then it may alienate the world again if it goes

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Speaker 13: too far.

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Speaker 3: They appreciate your time very much. We'll stant to touch

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Speaker 3: Steve Linda, who's the feature editor at the Jewish new

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Speaker 3: Syndicate former editor in chief at the Jerusalem Post. Ten

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Speaker 3: minutes past seven pasco back time. Morgan uses the governmentor

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Speaker 3: p IS to be able to make major and roads

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Speaker 3: into emergency housing, so this was a priority one policy

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Speaker 3: for them. Of course, nearly one thousand families, that's more

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Speaker 3: than twenty one hundred kids out of emergency housing. We

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Speaker 3: only have five hundred and nineteen children left in emergency

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Speaker 3: housing now, compared with more than thirty three hundred. In

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Speaker 3: April of last year, the Housing Minister Chris Bishops back

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Speaker 3: with this very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: So just for numbers, thirty seven percent into social housing,

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Speaker 3: twenty nine transitional nineteen for private fourteen didn't need any

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Speaker 3: help at all. What's the magic that the previous government

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Speaker 3: had thousands queuing up and it was a disaster in

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Speaker 3: motels and places like Rotorua. A year and a half on,

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Speaker 3: we're well on our way to solving it.

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Speaker 14: Yes, I mean it's great news and we're really proud

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Speaker 14: of it. There's a few things going on. I mean

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Speaker 14: the first is that we adopted a policy very quickly

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Speaker 14: upon coming to government which said if you're on the

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Speaker 14: social housing weightlist and you've been in emergency housing for

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Speaker 14: twelve weeks or longer and you've got kids, you go

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Speaker 14: straight to the top of the weitlist, which means that

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Speaker 14: coying or aura in the community housing sector can take

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Speaker 14: you out of that motel and you get the first

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Speaker 14: preference essentially to get into a social house. That's made

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Speaker 14: an enormous difference, and we just took a simple view

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Speaker 14: that if you've been in a stuck in emergency housing

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Speaker 14: in a motel, these grotty little motel rooms around the country.

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Speaker 14: And you've got to remember three years ago under Lay,

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Speaker 14: at one point we had over four thousand families living

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Speaker 14: permanently basically in these motels.

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Speaker 11: We just took the view that you.

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Speaker 14: Were absolutely priority number one. No one wants children growing

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Speaker 14: up in these motel rooms. I mean I've visited some

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Speaker 14: of them in my lecturate and other MPs that have

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Speaker 14: done the same thing. I mean you sometimes had, you know,

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Speaker 14: a mum and three kids, two kids living in a

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Speaker 14: one bedroom studio. You know, no, no, no, no place

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Speaker 14: to bring up a child. You know, every I must

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Speaker 14: and would agree with that.

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Speaker 3: So I take that view, and why couldn't I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to turn this into a political thing,

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Speaker 3: but why it's just a view. You're talking You did

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Speaker 3: something about. Why couldn't labor see the same thing and

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Speaker 3: do something about it?

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Speaker 13: Then?

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Speaker 14: Well, I do find it baffling, to be honest, because

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Speaker 14: you know, I just take this view that no one

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Speaker 14: wants kids growing up in motel rooms, and you've got

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Speaker 14: to do whatever it takes and spin whatever it takes

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Speaker 14: to do that. So we adopted that policy. We've also

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Speaker 14: made emergency housing, we've reset it back to how it

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Speaker 14: originally started. You've got to remember when Paul have been

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Speaker 14: introduced it all those years ago, back in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 14: It was meant to be a last resort, you know,

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Speaker 14: three or four days to tide someone over or family

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Speaker 14: over while they got their back on their feet and

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Speaker 14: got some support around them under labor. Unfortunately, and again

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Speaker 14: it's been too political about it, they just handed out

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Speaker 14: these emergency housing vouchers like confetti, and it became extremely easy.

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Speaker 14: It became a permanent, institutionalized part of the MSD social

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Speaker 14: support system, which it was never intended to do. So

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Speaker 14: we've reset that as well. So we've made it easier

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Speaker 14: to get out of emergency housing, and we've made sure

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Speaker 14: emergency housing itself goes back to what it was originally

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Speaker 14: intended for.

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Speaker 3: Good. So are you at the crunchy end of this now?

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Speaker 3: Have you got the low hanging fruit, so to speak,

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Speaker 3: and it gets difficult or is this going to be

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Speaker 3: a solved problem.

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Speaker 14: That's what the officials tell us is that none of

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Speaker 14: these cases are easy. But in terms of people who

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Speaker 14: are clearly in need, who we can move into a house,

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Speaker 14: and we're also wrapping a bot of support around them

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Speaker 14: because it's all very well to move into a house,

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Speaker 14: but you need help with you know, how to pay

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Speaker 14: the rent, to look after the place. So we're wrapping

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Speaker 14: support around people as well. There's about five hundred families

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Speaker 14: left in an emergency around the country. The road of

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Speaker 14: story is a really success through by the way, we're

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Speaker 14: closing the motels that they've been used a rod aura

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Speaker 14: as well. So it's about five hundred families left.

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Speaker 3: We've got some.

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Speaker 14: Increased intervention support available for them. Some of those people

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Speaker 14: where most families are, have pretty challenging backgrounds and pretty

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Speaker 14: challenging circumstances, but we're doing what we can and what

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Speaker 14: it takes to try and get them out as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fifteen seconds for all the Texters. They're all in

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Speaker 3: their cars and they're all on the streets and this

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Speaker 3: is a scam.

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Speaker 14: It's completely incorrect. That's the facts show that these people

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Speaker 14: are moving into social houses, transitional housing and private rentals

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Speaker 14: as well. That's what the fact show. And I'm really

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Speaker 14: proud of our record.

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Speaker 3: Good only appreciate it. Chris Bishop, the Housing Minister. I

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Speaker 3: got to get them back because I've been fascinated with

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Speaker 3: the christ Church thing, so intensification. Christ Church had a

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Speaker 3: battle with them for the last several years. They lost

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Speaker 3: that battle. They had a plan. Bishop looked at it

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Speaker 3: and said, you're not doing it. So at some point

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Speaker 3: I want to talk to them about that.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen Pace The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 3: News Nico Porti is moving on at the age of

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Speaker 3: twenty three. Ian Foster's back with us after eight o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning, as well as seventeen past seven. Got some

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Speaker 3: new research from the Asia New Zealand Foundation. More of

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Speaker 3: us are seeing China as the threat. Last year it's

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Speaker 3: twenty eight percent of us. This year it's forty. Here's

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Speaker 3: the flip side. China's second only. We think to Japan

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Speaker 3: as a place we need to invest more effort into.

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Speaker 3: So director of Victoria University's China Research Center, Jason Young's

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Speaker 3: with us, Jason Morning, Good morning. Perception always interests me.

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Speaker 3: Could it be something as simple as the Chinese fleet

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Speaker 3: of cruises coming into the Tasman Sea and US going, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they look a bit dangerous, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: perception changes.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think that's pretty much on the money. So the

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Speaker 5: mini poll, which is the sort of big jump in

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Speaker 5: threat perceptions towards China happened in March, just after the

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Speaker 5: task force was in the Tasman Fleet. And I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, for New Zealanders that have seen China grow,

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Speaker 5: seen it become a very powerful country, Senate's military grow,

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Speaker 5: but its military has always been very far away. Coming

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Speaker 5: into the Tasman Sea really changes, I think helps you.

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Speaker 3: So really nothing's actually changed apart from a headline. And

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Speaker 3: suddenly the same with America, isn't it. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: is Trump, isn't it. We think differently of America now

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Speaker 3: solely because of Trump, don't we.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you look back to the pole that was done,

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Speaker 5: the actual survey which was done in November, there was

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Speaker 5: actually an improvement in perceptions towards China. So the long

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Speaker 5: term trend was actually looking pretty good for China. There's

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Speaker 5: still high roughly third one third, one third. Threat perceptions

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Speaker 5: were up and friendlyiness perceptions were up and then a

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Speaker 5: third of people didn't know. But it was really that

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Speaker 5: much poll that jumped up. And yeah, very similar for Trump.

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Speaker 5: I think it's no secret that when there's a Trump administration.

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Speaker 5: New Zealanders are more worried about the United States as.

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Speaker 3: Far as US dealing or investing with China. Are we

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Speaker 3: walking in our own minds the same type rope of

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Speaker 3: government walks, and that is that you know, they may

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Speaker 3: have a view of the world that we don't align

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Speaker 3: ourselves with. Bus there are a very big economy and

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Speaker 3: we want to slice of that action, thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a very complicated relationship in the

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Speaker 5: sense that New Zealanders on all of the surveys have

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Speaker 5: very low trust that China will do the right thing

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Speaker 5: in world affairs. It's down to about forteen percent of

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Speaker 5: people think that that will and there's also an aversion

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Speaker 5: to the authoritarian political system in China. But at the

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Speaker 5: same time, it's seen is very very important because it's

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Speaker 5: the largest parent Asia, half of the GDP of Asia,

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Speaker 5: and it's an important trade partner which is important to

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Speaker 5: New Zealand interests. And I think that's just the reality

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Speaker 5: of the situation.

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Speaker 3: Jason, nice to talk to you. Jasp Young, who's director

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Speaker 3: of Victoria University's New Zealand China Research Center, A very

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Speaker 3: good bit of workout from the Lowe Institute in Australia

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Speaker 3: about their view of us in Luxon in particular, and

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Speaker 3: a fascinating I thought anyway inside of the second part

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Speaker 3: of this COVID inquiry. We'll get to all of that

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Speaker 3: in the next half hour along with Nico Portius, but

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Speaker 3: we'll need to get back to the economy in a moment.

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Speaker 3: I see similarities between Nico Porteus's decision and that of

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Speaker 3: Schinnel Herris de Beta to walk away. It's not a

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Speaker 3: bad point, John, anyway. Nico's were a shortly right, no

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Speaker 3: particular thrill. I can tell you that in no particular

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Speaker 3: thrill and being right about the door times. But I

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Speaker 3: am just not sure how much more evidence the Reserve

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Speaker 3: Bank needs to start realizing they have misread the economy.

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Speaker 3: So yesterday we talked about manufacturing. Right, the index is

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Speaker 3: going backwards. It's shrinking. It was growing. It was growing

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Speaker 3: for several months in a row, not spectacularly, but at

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Speaker 3: least it was on the right side of the ledger.

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Speaker 3: Its friend. The services sector was not faring so well.

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Speaker 3: Services is a massive chunk of our economy. The services

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Speaker 3: number was out late yesterday. It's down down another four

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Speaker 3: points to forty four. Fifty is neutral, fifty one is growing.

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Speaker 3: The long term average is fifty three, so forty four

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Speaker 3: is not good. Add two and two together the services

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Speaker 3: and manufacturing now both shrinking. As one economist said, it

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Speaker 3: shows a country that has one hit a brick wall

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Speaker 3: their words, not mine, and two an economy you're ready,

867
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: an economy in recession, which makes sadly the GDP figure

868
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: out this week for Q one redundant.

869
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: Ah.

870
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: Those were the days, ah, the glory days of growth

871
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: in summer, because by the time April arrived, we'd packed up,

872
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: gone home and sunk into a funk. As we said

873
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: the other day when Christian Hawksby was on the show,

874
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: you can't tell us that the country is fine as

875
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: long as the farmers are fine. But that's the problem

876
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: with the Reserve Bank mandate. Inflation is their obsession. As

877
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: long it is as it's in that magical one to

878
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: three band, which it is, they don't care. But guess

879
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: what you can get low inflation by doing nothing. When

880
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: nothing works, inflation tends to be stagnant. That seems to

881
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: be about where we are at the moment. It's a

882
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: vicious cycle. And services spending is down, consumer confidence is down.

883
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: When confidence is down, spending is down, run and around

884
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: we go what helps that. I hear you ask well,

885
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 3: to drop in interest rates is the answer. The cash

886
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: rate debate is back on. I think it's going to

887
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: be neutral two point five. It might even be lower.

888
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: Actually who knows, but the Reserve Bank habit at three

889
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: banks argue it could be about two seven five. If

890
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank was right, services wouldn't be at forty four.

891
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: In manufacturing at forty seven, they say, oh, hold on,

892
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: it takes time. It'll all flow through, will it. I

893
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: don't think so, Christian said. The Monetary Policy Committee before

894
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: their last decision, had spent a week locked in a room,

895
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: and I think that's the problem. Try the real world.

896
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: It's different to a room and a spreadsheet.

897
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: Coasking.

898
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: I do have some good economic news for you this morning.

899
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: I'm very happy to be able to inform you that

900
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: pack and Save Rolliston. Roliston is the center of the world.

901
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: It's part of the Selwyn district. Selwyn is the center

902
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: of the regional world. Packinsab which is the biggest retail

903
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: outlet in the South Island eighty one hundred square meters,

904
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 3: so she's massive. Is going to be built under cost

905
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: under fifty million dollars and it's going to be open

906
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 3: two months early. So all of this businesses. We can't

907
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: build anything in this country and it blows out forever

908
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: and it takes way longer than you thought. Not so

909
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 3: not so pack and save Roliston came in early. Cayman

910
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: cheat this grooming report, so just to background it with

911
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: Roden and Nail's time. So Starmer denied it, denied it,

912
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: denied it. This has got a race element to it,

913
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: and this is what makes it so interesting. It's a

914
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: Pakistani thing, and these Pakistani gangs have been grooming young

915
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: girls and everybody knows it. And Starmer's busy going ah,

916
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: the locals all there, or that we'll do it at

917
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: a local authority level, just leave it to them. All

918
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the report comes out overnight saying not

919
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: sign mate, and so he's got trouble. So we'll have

920
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 3: a look at this with lod in an hour's time.

921
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: But Nico Portia said twenty thirty, saying goodbye to the

922
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 3: sport he loves.

923
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: He's next New Zealand's home for Trusted News and Views,

924
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfait with Bailey's real Estate doing real

925
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news talks head be So.

926
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Speaker 3: The Lower Institute, the aforementioned is interesting because they've done

927
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 3: this for four In fact, they've been doing it for

928
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: twenty years, and they regard them. So the Lower Institute

929
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: in general is very authoritative, but this particular piece of

930
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: work they do, they claim is world leading. So the

931
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: world leader that Australians feel most confident to do the

932
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: right thing regarding foreign affairs as who. So it's an

933
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 3: annual poll. As I say, I've been running for more

934
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 3: than two decades. Sixty three scent of respondence had either

935
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: some confidence or a lot of confidence in Christopher Luxen.

936
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: Top of the field. Following Luxon is Emanuel Macron at

937
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: sixty one percent alban Ezi at sixty ironic that they

938
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: mark him down having re elected him with the sort

939
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 3: of alacrity they did. Ashba in jebect would you even

940
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: know if I rang you up? Let's be honest. If

941
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: I rang you up and said, so this is Sheba Blake,

942
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: how's he doing in Japan? I mean, honestly, could you

943
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: give me and this is no insult to you or

944
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: indeed me, I would.

945
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 15: Struggle to be an insult to Australians.

946
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So as sheep. First of all, if you rang

947
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: your average Australian and stead one tell me who the

948
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: Prime Minister of Japan as, you wouldn't know because that

949
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 3: changes every thirty seconds, the way they're going at the moment. Anyway,

950
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: So I.

951
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 15: Reckon you can make the same argument about Luxon, couldn't you?

952
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: You?

953
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 3: Probably could you, honestly with any level hand on heart

954
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: of detail. I could personally because I'm a nude and

955
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: I follow this stuff. On alban Ezi I could tell

956
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: you what he's doing, but most people couldn't tell you

957
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: what Elbenese to do other than he won the election.

958
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: You know who he is. He seems like a half

959
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: decent bloke.

960
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 15: Well you know that his name's Elbow. You don't know

961
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 15: what it's short for exactly.

962
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: And also you know some people in Queensland and they're

963
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: pretty happy because the bee is cheap in the sunshine,

964
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: so it must be good. I mean that's where it's beginning,

965
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: middle and end, isn't it anyway? Stalmer fifty nine? But

966
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: lux and no one loves Luxo more than the Australians

967
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: bottom of the pile. Come John elm But I mean

968
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 3: that's an easy score. Isn't it four percent? They claim

969
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: they fixed that boat the other day. Do you believe that?

970
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: You see in North Korea? So they launched a boat's sideways.

971
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: It's a thing. I'd never seen it, but it's a thing.

972
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 3: So you launch a boat, I thought just straight in

973
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: the obvious way, but they launched it sideways and it

974
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: fell over, and this was embarrassing. They had aerial footage

975
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: of this. They now claim they bright the ship and

976
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: they fixed it. I don't believe it, but be that

977
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 3: as it may. Putin ate Jijingping sixteen and Trump twenty five.

978
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: But so before you get all luxified about it, and

979
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: now Chris is fantastic. Two years ago Hipkins was leading

980
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 3: the pol I rest my case luxA.

981
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 15: I do like the luxified though, and I'm going to

982
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 15: use it more every day.

983
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: Twenty one minutes away from eight it fosters back with

984
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: us halfs right. He's got to book out on leadership

985
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: and stress and being knifed in the back by the end,

986
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: said are.

987
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 15: You I don't know if that's true, but you know,

988
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 15: if you're laxified, do you have to use the word frickin'

989
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 15: all the time?

990
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: Freakin' laxify? Tell you what there I was and I

991
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: freaking got Luxafi Frod's off the tungen a? Is that

992
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 3: the word of the years? Massive university listening to this,

993
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: I go high? Or where over here? Where was I?

994
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 3: Nikkoiod Portius? Right, So our most successful sports athletes, no

995
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: sports athletes are deciding for now anyway, to move to

996
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: other things. At the grand old age of twenty three,

997
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: sixteen years old. He was for the bronze in twenty

998
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: eighteen and the free sky, the free ski half pipe.

999
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: Then he came back four years later in Beijing got

1000
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: the gold. But now the Olympics and the halfpipe are

1001
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: and the rearview mirror Nico Portius is with us. Good morning,

1002
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: Good morning. I'm sure it's one of it. I'm very well, indeed,

1003
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: thank you. I'm sure it's one of those things you

1004
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: sort of build up and think about and then it

1005
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: goes public. Do you feel good now you've done?

1006
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1007
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 12: Do yeah?

1008
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 11: Feel really good? And I made the decision actually last August,

1009
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 11: and yeah, just something that I wanted to sit on

1010
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 11: and make sure that it was exactly what I wanted

1011
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 11: to do.

1012
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: Who'd you talk to my family?

1013
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, spoke to my mum. My dad, my brother, and

1014
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 11: then also spoke to my sports like Dave Colin. So yeah,

1015
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 11: I had a really good team around me and a

1016
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 11: great support network of people to help make sure that

1017
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 11: it made the right decision.

1018
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: And how many of those people you talked to said well,

1019
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: it's up to you, Nico, what do you think? And

1020
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: you went, ah, I want something more than.

1021
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 11: That kind of all of them, to be honest, because

1022
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 11: at the end of the day, like they've always been

1023
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 11: super supportive of me and always backs me, and so

1024
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 11: they wanted to be one hundred percent my call. They

1025
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 11: didn't want to influence in it in any way. And yeah,

1026
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 11: I guess I'm just really lucky to have that sort

1027
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 11: of support network around me.

1028
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: Did you waver it all from August on? Nah?

1029
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 11: I actually just wanted to sit on it and was

1030
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 11: kind of scared to do the media announcement, to be honest, Yeah,

1031
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 11: there was obviously, you know, there's obviously times when you

1032
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 11: make the call and you're so young and still healthy

1033
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 11: that you're like, oh, when times get hard, you're sort

1034
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 11: of like, oh, maybe I could go back to the

1035
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 11: option that I know and that you know, I wake

1036
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 11: up and I know what's going to happen the next day,

1037
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 11: or I know what's going to happen in six months time.

1038
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 11: But yeah, I feel comfortable with the decision now and

1039
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 11: feel yeah, ready to move on.

1040
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: If I'd asked you at say, fifteen, sixteen years of age,

1041
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: did you have any inclination that this was going to

1042
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: be a shortish term thing or at that point you

1043
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 3: didn't know? And if you didn't know, at what point

1044
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: in your career did you start thinking I've got other

1045
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: stuff to do.

1046
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I didn't know. I was just fully in

1047
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 11: what I was doing. And I guess, you know, looking back,

1048
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 11: I've been in the competitive skiing world since I was,

1049
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 11: you know, ten years old, and so that's like over

1050
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 11: half my life, which has been pretty crazy, So it's

1051
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 11: kind of all I've known. And I guess, you know,

1052
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 11: through over that five gerd you do a lot of

1053
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 11: growing and a lot of changing, and yeah, I just

1054
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 11: kind of lost that competitive passion. I guess, you know,

1055
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 11: as you do over over those years, like you change

1056
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 11: as a person.

1057
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: So you felt that there was one of my questions,

1058
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: did it did it at any point become a grind?

1059
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 11: Yeah? Definitely. I mean it was always a grind, but

1060
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 11: I just I just kind of lost that competitive drive

1061
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 11: at the end of the day.

1062
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: Can you can you explain that or you don't need

1063
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: to explain it.

1064
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, it was it was a little bit around

1065
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 11: like I just lost the drive for the results. The

1066
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 11: results didn't really motivate me that much anymore. And to

1067
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 11: be honest, when I achieved the results some you know

1068
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 11: later on in the career, they didn't quite have the

1069
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 11: same impact as they did. It was way more. I

1070
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 11: was way more enjoying pushing myself and you know, to

1071
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 11: be the best skier that I could be, rather than

1072
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 11: trying to be the skill on day.

1073
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: It's a very mature view. Yeah, don't you reckon. That's

1074
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: a very mature of you to come to at such

1075
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 3: a young age, because I'm assuming most young people, once

1076
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: you win one, you want to win more.

1077
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 11: Yeah. I don't know. I sit out with a number

1078
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 11: of goals at the start of my career when I

1079
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Speaker 11: was twelve, I said these goals and I achieved those goals,

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Speaker 11: and yeah, that's kind of I don't know. I feel

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Speaker 11: as a more and more and more mentality can often

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Speaker 11: lead to it doing damage or leaving a sour taste

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Speaker 11: in your mouth, and so.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to do it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah when I had, when I felt good and yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: The success was the success was part of it. So

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Speaker 3: in other words, you did have goals. So if you

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Speaker 3: had had not attained what you had attained, you'd still

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Speaker 3: maybe still be at it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, for sure the business of video production, all

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff I'm reading about, is that a

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Speaker 3: real path? Is that something you're you're passionate about it

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Speaker 3: and you still don't know?

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Speaker 11: No, No, that's something that I'm that I'm super passionate about.

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Speaker 11: After the twenty twenty two Games of Blue Macio and

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Speaker 11: coming back the season after I've spent a whole year

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Speaker 11: filming and working on a video production, and so it's

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Speaker 11: it's a it's a real path in skinning, and we're

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Speaker 11: lucky that our sport has, you know, multiple avenues outside

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Speaker 11: of competing and something that I really look forward to

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Speaker 11: to pushing.

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Speaker 3: What I've enjoyed about you guys, And I think that's

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Speaker 3: applicable for many in New Zealand. Is that clearly something's

1105
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Speaker 3: gone on in Central Otago by way of a production

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Speaker 3: pipeline for people who are good at this sort of stuff,

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Speaker 3: you've enjoyed it. I take it it's going well. You

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Speaker 3: leave the sport in good heart? Is that fair?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely in good heart. Feel still

1110
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Speaker 11: have the same really positive feelings towards it.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, are you a memories guy? Are you going

1112
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Speaker 3: to stand at a part and go, oh yeah, I

1113
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: used to do that when I went to the Olympics.

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Speaker 11: In no way, if someone if someone wants to come

1115
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Speaker 11: and talk to me about it, or you know, one

1116
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Speaker 11: of my friends and family brings it up, but I'm

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Speaker 11: not going to Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, all right mate, go well, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 3: Nico Portius, you get raised that way or not? Or

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Speaker 3: is that just a genete?

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Speaker 15: Which which way?

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Speaker 3: Well? In the like, he is what he is, isn't he?

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Speaker 3: I mean he's such a cool guy that to be

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Speaker 3: able to genuinely I mean I might be misreading him.

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Speaker 3: He might be in a year and a half be

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Speaker 3: a complete basket case and want to desperately get back

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Speaker 3: on the skis and get to a half pipe. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, but take him at as word this morning.

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Speaker 3: Are you raised that way? Or is it inherent in

1130
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Speaker 3: you that you can spend your whole life going towards something,

1131
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: getting there and then going more than happy just to

1132
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Speaker 3: move gracefully on because that's massive.

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Speaker 15: I couldn't well, well, as we can see you certainly

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Speaker 15: haven'ts massive.

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Speaker 3: Don't bring it back to me because I'm struggling at

1136
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Speaker 3: the moment. Fourteen away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at B.

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Speaker 3: Very good piece. K McNamara continues to be my favorite

1140
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: Herald employee, so she writes, do read it because it's

1141
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: critical because we're paying for part two of the COVID inquiry.

1142
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Speaker 3: The Royal Commission guy called Dave Heatley Judy Kavanaugh, the

1143
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 3: names I will mention now so that when they come

1144
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 3: up in the bed I'm about to read you, you'll

1145
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: know who I'm talking to. In twenty twenty, the beforementioned Heatley,

1146
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: then a principal analyst at the Productivity Commission, produced what

1147
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: appears to have been the only cost benefit analysis of

1148
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: any pandemic measure produced in or for the New Zealand

1149
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 3: public sector. Kavanah contributed additional modeling and research for it,

1150
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: and Sweet was among the peer reviewers. The work born

1151
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: of discussions with the Treasury found the cost of the

1152
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Speaker 3: five day April extension of the twenty twenty Level four

1153
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: lockdown was seven hundred and forty million dollars greater than

1154
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Speaker 3: the benefits. It was designed to show a technique for

1155
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Speaker 3: weighing health benefits against economic costs that could be used

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Speaker 3: in future decision making. The point I'm making here is

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Speaker 3: that this part of the inquiry at the moment is

1158
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Speaker 3: looking at the economics. Then Finance Minister Grant Robertson did

1159
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Speaker 3: not welcome the endeavor, What a surprise, and the exercise

1160
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Speaker 3: was criticized by the team of mathematical modelers led by

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Speaker 3: Sean Hendy, a physicist and then a professor at the

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Speaker 3: University of Auckland On whose work much of the government's

1163
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Speaker 3: pandemic policy making relied. Oh how interesting now, well she

1164
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Speaker 3: goes on New Zealand academic economist John Gibson. I mentioned

1165
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Speaker 3: that name. He's from the Wycata University because he's referenced here.

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Speaker 3: The report repeatedly held up New Zealand's extraordinary low excess

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Speaker 3: deaths during the pandemic as evidence of pandemic policy success. However,

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Speaker 3: in the report, as as commonly the case where excess

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Speaker 3: deaths measured the actual number of deaths against the number

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Speaker 3: of deaths expected. Critically, the number of deaths expected was

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Speaker 3: estimated based on the trend in previous years twenty fifteen

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Speaker 3: through twenty nineteen, when deaths were rising at two percent perannum,

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Speaker 3: roughly in line with the population growth. Gibson contends that

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's expected deaths during the pandemic should have been

1175
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Speaker 3: adjusted for the stalled population growth produced by border closure.

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Speaker 3: Once the adjustment is made, New Zealand's excess deaths are

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Speaker 3: no longer internationally extraordinary and are poorer than or comparable

1178
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Speaker 3: to a group of ten other countries, including Canada, Germany, Denmark, Belgium,

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Speaker 3: the Netherlands, Israel, and Australia. His related paper was published

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Speaker 3: by the Journal of New Zealand Economic Papers in two

1181
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Speaker 3: thenty twenty. He didn't hear any of that, did you?

1182
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Speaker 3: Never heard any of that, did you? So they did

1183
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: model the economic cost of doing what they were doing.

1184
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: It blew out didn't work, and you to this day,

1185
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: the lobbies, the ad ernests will tell you are we

1186
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: saved so many lives? Not a few measure it the

1187
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Speaker 3: way he did read the article The COVID Royal Commission

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Speaker 3: of Inquiry hires economists for key roles. More excellent work

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Speaker 3: from Kate McNamara of The Herald eight to eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Octor and news

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Speaker 1: tonk sad be.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Mike, to achieve what he does and

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Speaker 3: has done, takes an immense amount of discipline. This comes

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Speaker 3: from the parents. Well, see, I would disagree. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you may be right, it may well come

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Speaker 3: from the parents, but can you instill discipline or do

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Speaker 3: you show discipline? Or is discipline and inherent? Mike Portius

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Speaker 3: has always been mature beyond us. Yes, I mean I

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Speaker 3: think we picked that up at the time. The whole

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Speaker 3: family's deeply impressive. Nico real core guy honors too, gave

1201
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 3: us the real reason none of this. The tank is empty.

1202
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Speaker 3: The tank max can be empty. I mean, that's a

1203
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: legitimate excuse. You think back to John Key when he

1204
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: said the tank's empty. You believed incredible interview with Nico,

1205
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: a young man with real clarity of mind, which I

1206
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: guess is why he's achieved amazing tricks to win gold.

1207
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Speaker 3: But it's not always the way. That's the thing that

1208
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: fascinates me. I cited earlier on this morning Aaron Rodgers,

1209
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: who's one of my heroes. Aaron Rodgers, one of the

1210
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: greatest football players in the NFL's history. And yet there's

1211
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Speaker 3: a guy seemingly now struggling. He's signed for a team

1212
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: that you think, come on, mate, really do you need

1213
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: to play for them this year? Surely got better things

1214
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: to do with your life. He's got that kind of

1215
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: hanging around too long vibe about him. So as brilliant

1216
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: and genius as he has been can be, he's sitting

1217
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Speaker 3: there again. Well, what an impressive young man, Mike. It

1218
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: seems very evident that, no matter how good you are,

1219
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: succeeding at the highest level, if tough mentally and physically,

1220
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: hope he enjoys being in his twenties. Perfect way to retire.

1221
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: I think he's clocked it. He may well do now.

1222
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Speaker 3: On related matters, Ian Foster, you remember him here, there

1223
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: was a little bit of controversy around that particular tenure.

1224
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Speaker 3: He's in Japan these days with Steve Hansen, and he's

1225
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Speaker 3: got a very good book out about stress and leading

1226
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Speaker 3: from the front, the details of which we will have for.

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Speaker 2: You shortly setting the agenda and talking the big issues.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hasking, Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life,

1229
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Speaker 3: It is seven past eight. Time for catch up with

1231
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Speaker 3: the and Foster Ymber him coach controversy, the blowcafter Hanson

1232
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Speaker 3: before Robertson. But there is a bit of a story

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Speaker 3: in the tenure seventy percent winning rate, thirty two wins,

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Speaker 3: twelve losses. We lost our number one world ranking of course,

1235
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Speaker 3: one four letters, loads for Freedom Cups, three Rugby Championships.

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Speaker 3: He's got the lines. Two are coming up, but he's

1237
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Speaker 3: got a role in that. Coach is currently in Japan.

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Speaker 3: This new book is called Leading under Pressure and Ian

1239
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Speaker 3: Fosters with us. Very good morning morning Mike. Last time

1240
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Speaker 3: we talked, you were heading home to do those beautiful

1241
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Speaker 3: lawns of yours. How are they looking?

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Speaker 16: Well? Your memory is pretty good anyway, and the lawns

1243
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Speaker 16: have been made. But subsequently I've actually shot off to

1244
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Speaker 16: do a bit of work in Japan for a year,

1245
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Speaker 16: so I've had to get someone else in to mow them.

1246
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Speaker 16: But back now grass has grown in the way kaddo,

1247
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Speaker 16: which is a good sign.

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Speaker 3: Good where are you at psychologically, mentally, culturally, everything You're

1249
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: feeling good about yourself in life?

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Speaker 2: Yep, I am.

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Speaker 16: It's you know, like it's came back from the World

1252
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Speaker 16: Cup and gave myself a chance to breathe a little

1253
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Speaker 16: bit before we thought about what's next and looked at

1254
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Speaker 16: a couple of options around the world, but decided coaching

1255
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Speaker 16: at a club level was the next thing for me.

1256
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Speaker 16: And so really enjoying the experience in Japan, you know,

1257
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Speaker 16: teaching an old dog new tricks and you know, having

1258
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 16: to adjust to a new environment. So I've actually really

1259
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 16: enjoyed that. But like I said, it's great to be

1260
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 16: home for two or three months and reconnect back here

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Speaker 16: and be heading back over there for the next year

1262
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Speaker 16: comes September.

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Speaker 3: What's your observation of Japan and it's rugby, because it's

1264
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Speaker 3: not like it doesn't have a good New Zealand connection

1265
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Speaker 3: these days, both with coaches and players. Is it progressing?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the Japan competition really is. It's in fact,

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Speaker 16: you know, it's been a learning curve for me. But

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Speaker 16: talking to a lot of the other coaches up there,

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Speaker 16: both a lot of South African and Kiwe coaches who

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Speaker 16: really believe that competition is just like this last year

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Speaker 16: they felt was one of the best it's ever been

1272
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Speaker 16: in terms of strength. And I think when you look

1273
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Speaker 16: around the world in terms of the viability of competitions,

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Speaker 16: probably the French competition, in the in the Japan competition

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Speaker 16: of the two that are probably standalone, has been really

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Speaker 16: financially viable. So i'd see massive growth and that that

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Speaker 16: domestic competition up there.

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Speaker 3: What's your view of global rugby? And the reason I

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Speaker 3: asked that a simple fold. One of the Japanese comment,

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Speaker 3: you just made this R three sixty thing that may

1281
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Speaker 3: or may not come to something this this this club

1282
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: competition with some super rugby teams South versus North, plus

1283
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Speaker 3: the international calendar.

1284
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Speaker 2: Or all of that.

1285
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Speaker 3: Is rugby in a healthy state or is there a

1286
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: too much rugby?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 11: Look, I think it's in a healthy state.

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Speaker 16: But I mean, if you look at look at two

1290
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 16: things for the for the game to really to thrive,

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Speaker 16: you've got to have great governance, and you've got to

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Speaker 16: have and you've got to have great competition structures. And

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Speaker 16: I think it's at at both those levels. The game's

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Speaker 16: gone through massive transitions. You've seen it in our country

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Speaker 16: the last four or five years. And it's sort of

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Speaker 16: some things that I address in the book We've done,

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Speaker 16: where you know, you look at introduction of private equity,

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Speaker 16: different types of people owning owning parts of the game.

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Speaker 16: And it's not wrong or it's not bad, it's just

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Speaker 16: required a whole rethink of how the game operates. And

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Speaker 16: so the government sides a challenge. And so it's the

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Speaker 16: competition side. Because you go around the world to a

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Speaker 16: lot of the major competitions, they're struggling to sustain their

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Speaker 16: competition on a financial backing.

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Speaker 11: So how they go about that?

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Speaker 16: And so the dilemma has always been able do you

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Speaker 16: do more and you go bigger and shinier. But the

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Speaker 16: trouble that does it increase your costs as well. So

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Speaker 16: there's a big rethink going on about how, particularly in

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Speaker 16: the Northern hemisphere. You know, a lot of the what

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Speaker 16: used to be a stronghold in terms of the club

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Speaker 16: stuff is there's a lot of financial pressure in that market.

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Speaker 3: Is that how rugby is run? Because I've got a

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Speaker 3: sort of a personal interest in international sport generally, and

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Speaker 3: I look at it from a business point of view.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the American market, particularly it's booming.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there is no shortage of money for sport,

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Speaker 3: and sport is wealthy, and yet there are some parts

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Speaker 3: of rugby that's not wealthy. In fact, the ends lose money.

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Speaker 3: Is that because there isn't money for rugby or because

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Speaker 3: the way rugby's run is a problem.

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Speaker 16: Well it's probably a combination of both. But I think

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Speaker 16: if you look at the American market, and to a

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Speaker 16: certain degree even the Australian market an AFL, NRAL is

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Speaker 16: that their strength is there is their club competition, their

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Speaker 16: franchise competitions, and like in America, like they're massively strong.

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Speaker 16: And in sports that really don't need the international game,

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Speaker 16: you know, like NFL that they they don't try to

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Speaker 16: take it global as such, that is interested in promoting

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Speaker 16: their own brand. So whereas rugby, particularly when you look

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Speaker 16: around the world and you look at countries like New Zealand,

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Speaker 16: we need the international aim to be strong because that's

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Speaker 16: that's most of the most of our revenue. So but

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Speaker 16: you also need to give more autonomy to the franchises

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Speaker 16: they operate underneath, because they need to be financially sustainable

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Speaker 16: as well. So it's as you give more autonomy to

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Speaker 16: the to the competition structure. Sometimes it deep powers the

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Speaker 16: international structure and that's the dilemma for rugby to get right.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, all right mate, hold on just two seconds,

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Speaker 3: will you? Ian Foster? The book is Leading under Pressure.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about the All Blacks specifically in the moment

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Speaker 3: twelve past.

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Speaker 1: Eight the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It be news Talks have becoming up sixteen past eating

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Speaker 3: and Fosters, I guess the book is Leading under Pressure.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you the All Blacks? Where where do

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Speaker 3: you see the All Blacks? As I mean, are they

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Speaker 3: as powerful an entity as they ever have been or not?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely?

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Speaker 16: You know they're still a you know, if you look

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Speaker 16: at a brand, they're a massive brand and you know

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Speaker 16: you live in Japan and you realize how realize again

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Speaker 16: how powerful they can be. But it's you know the

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Speaker 16: beauty of that is that's yeah, you know that that

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Speaker 16: can change quickly. You know that the power of the

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Speaker 16: brand has really come from a set of values that

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Speaker 16: have been built up over one hundred years of New

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Speaker 16: Zealand rugby. And the key is to as we go

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Speaker 16: through new eras to make sure you don't walk away

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Speaker 16: from those values.

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Speaker 3: Is rugby angsty in terms of my look, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm a fan, that's all I am.

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Speaker 3: But I look at the way rugby's run in this country,

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Speaker 3: and you've got your provincial, you've got your national, you've

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Speaker 3: got you know. The fact you're losing money worries me.

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Speaker 3: But it seems there's an angst to rugby that's not

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Speaker 3: particularly necessary or am I misreading that? Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Look, I think there always has been, Mike, and I mean,

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Speaker 16: first of all, we need you to stay a fan.

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Speaker 16: We want people to stay in love with the game.

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Speaker 16: We talk a lot about it. There's always there's always,

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Speaker 16: you know, conflict points between NPC, Super Rugby, all Blacks, governance,

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Speaker 16: all that sort of stuff, and that's kind of part

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Speaker 16: of it in some ways that it's a healthy it's

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Speaker 16: healthy that those things get discussed publicly, you know, because

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Speaker 16: it's you know, it's part of the game, part of

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Speaker 16: the country. And I think there are but there are

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Speaker 16: a lot of issues that need to be resolved. You've

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Speaker 16: got to make sure, you know, we don't keep strong

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Speaker 16: the base of our game. Then there's not a lot

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Speaker 16: left for us at that at the top level. So

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Speaker 16: although I don't think I don't think we should be

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Speaker 16: massively concerned about it, but we certainly have to be

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Speaker 16: prepared to change.

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Speaker 3: What have you looked at as regard I mean, the

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Speaker 3: whole book's called leading under Pressure, and no one lead

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Speaker 3: under more pressure than you, because you know, everyone had

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Speaker 3: any and foster view of the world, didn't they At

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Speaker 3: the end of that, Well, what do you think of

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Speaker 3: that now that you've got that in the reavision mirror?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, look, I reckon it's an important story to tell.

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Speaker 12: I never I say in the book.

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Speaker 16: I never intended to write a book.

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Speaker 11: I never didn't.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was some.

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Speaker 16: Important and more interesting people. But I just feel that

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Speaker 16: post World Cups came back to to a country that

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Speaker 16: was probably you know, clear I can't speak on behalf

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Speaker 16: of everyone, but a lot of the feedback we got

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Speaker 16: is that people actually saw a team go through a

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Speaker 16: journey over those four years, and even those that were

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Speaker 16: critical and didn't like things and hated losing to Ireland

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Speaker 16: like all of us, but they saw a team come

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Speaker 16: out the other side a little bit and grow towards

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Speaker 16: the end. And I just felt that almost owed it

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Speaker 16: to a management team and a lot of my leading

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Speaker 16: players to actually tell the story of the journey of

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Speaker 16: that particular team, because there's no doubt that going through

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Speaker 16: going through COVID and the quarantines and all the things

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Speaker 16: that we will know about those this first, you know,

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Speaker 16: twenty twenty twenty twenty one changed the way we approached

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Speaker 16: those four years. That put us under a lot of pressure,

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Speaker 16: and it put everyone under a lot of press. But

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Speaker 16: telling the story about how we as an organization dealt

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Speaker 16: with that and some of it's probably not good, But

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Speaker 16: to me, I'm intensely proud of how a team sort

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Speaker 16: of really.

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Speaker 14: Stuck together and even with a bit of adversity.

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Speaker 16: Checked at it, or a lot of adversity checked that,

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Speaker 16: it sort of relied on itself to sort of dig

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Speaker 16: itself out of a bit of a hole and.

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Speaker 3: Nearly got there.

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Speaker 16: So that's kind of the story, and you know, people can.

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Speaker 12: Can judge it from whichever angle.

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Speaker 16: They want, but I felt it was an important one

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Speaker 16: to share because I've just got massive regard for the

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Speaker 16: people that I worked with and went through the same

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Speaker 16: trip that I did.

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Speaker 3: How do you deal with it as a leader under

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Speaker 3: pressure when you've got young men under pressure, but they

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Speaker 3: won't have known what you already know. And they're all

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Speaker 3: individuals anyway, and deal with things in different faces of

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Speaker 3: their life and approach.

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Speaker 16: A great quote I believe in which is a river

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Speaker 16: without banks has called a flood. And you've actually got

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Speaker 16: to supply I think when things are uncertain, you've got

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Speaker 16: to supply some certainty and you've got to be brutally

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Speaker 16: honest about it. You've got to say, well, this is

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Speaker 16: where we're at, this is where we're going. And then

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Speaker 16: you've got to walk alongside people. And I think that's

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Speaker 16: what happened at that time period, is that yet to

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Speaker 16: actually rather than push or pull them along, you had

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Speaker 16: to walk alongside them because everyone had had concerns at

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Speaker 16: different levels, and I think it was a different time

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Speaker 16: to lead. You had to lead a different way. Some

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Speaker 16: of it clearly that I wouldn't have said I got

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Speaker 16: right all the time, but it was certainly that that

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Speaker 16: was how I felt. We went through that period.

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Speaker 14: And and some of the pressure you.

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Speaker 16: Was generated outside the organization. Some of that was generated

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Speaker 16: inside the organization. But the strategy of how we.

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Speaker 12: Dealt what it was the same.

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Speaker 3: Mark Robinson who you're well aware was quite recently he said,

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Speaker 3: no regrets. Do you any regrets?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 16: No, Well, when I say no regrets, i've in terms

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Speaker 16: of the way I led and how I went through things.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 16: I don't think you can never say you've got no

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Speaker 16: regrets because you never get it one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 16: And and but I think did I learn, did I

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Speaker 16: move through things?

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Speaker 14: Did I you know?

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Speaker 16: And ultimately as a leader, yes, the ultimate test is

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Speaker 16: if you think you're a leader, but you look over

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Speaker 16: over your shoulder and no one's following, then you're not doing.

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Speaker 11: A good job.

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Speaker 16: But the fact is that we had a team that

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Speaker 16: stayed tight, united and under a lot of pressure. When

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Speaker 16: I performed at the end, then that's something that I'm

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Speaker 16: really proud of.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Listen, good to catch up. You might go well,

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Speaker 3: the book is leading under Pressure. He and Foster with

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Speaker 3: us this morning eight twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The makee Husking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be Morning Mike Ate twenty five. By the way,

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Speaker 3: Morning Mike typically and faster, humble and so under valued.

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Speaker 3: He speaks sincerely without being a whistleblower. He could have

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Speaker 3: played the blame game, but it's too dignified for that.

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Speaker 3: I've got the utmost respect, So that's nice, very likable guy.

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Speaker 3: I always enjoyed, always enjoyed dealing with him. Foster has

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Speaker 3: a lot more to him and credibility than afforded to

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Speaker 3: him by the public and New Zealand Rugby while the

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Speaker 3: av coach. But he seems at peace, doesn't he, Mike

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Speaker 3: love you show. I've been following a band called the

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Speaker 3: Zach Brown Band, which is brilliant. Well I'm glad you

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Speaker 3: have because I only discovered them about maybe two years ago,

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Speaker 3: possibly three. Zach is an American from Atlanta, Georgia with

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Speaker 3: a ten piece. He's on tour at present and all

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Speaker 3: Australian concerts are sold out, not coming to New Zealand. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: That's so depressing to know, because Zach Brown's in that

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Speaker 3: He's a deal within country music, but not the biggest deed.

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Speaker 3: He's no Luke Calms or Morgan Wallen. But when I

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Speaker 3: discovered him relatively recently, I thought, how long has this

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Speaker 3: guy been around? So I looked him up. He's been

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Speaker 3: around forever and there's a lot of bands out there

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Speaker 3: like that that have been around forever have had extraordinary

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Speaker 3: levels of success. I read I can't don't remember, but

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Speaker 3: he's selling like forty million albums and you're thinking this

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Speaker 3: is a serious player anyway. So he's in Australia selling out,

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Speaker 3: but he doesn't come here. How many people, because we

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Speaker 3: only had the conversation around Taylor Swift and the mega

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Speaker 3: deals that we don't have the facilities for how many

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Speaker 3: people of his silk? And I don't know where he's playing,

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 3: but I would imagine he's a five to ten thousand

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01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 3: a nighter, that sort of deal, So it's not like

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01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 3: we don't have the facilities to have him here. How

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 3: many people are they like him that go to Australia

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01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: and don't move on here? Latest single I Ain't worried

1511
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 3: about it? And two chairs and you but Nadine's got

1512
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 3: a ticket to the Australian show.

1513
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 15: So just as well as you've got iHeart Country ENDZ

1514
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,959
Speaker 15: to listen to a hard one.

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: They got Zach Brown on.

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 15: Yeah it's all over it, mate?

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01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 3: Is this Zach Brown? It is been This is not representative.

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 3: I don't think of what he does.

1519
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 15: Yep, you always say that that's true.

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01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 3: The news is next and then We'll go to Brick

1521
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 3: and catch up in the heat Wave with Rod Little.

1522
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

1523
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor The most

1524
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: Powerful Defender ever made and used togs Dead b Hey Mike.

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Speaker 3: Another example of that is Jason his Bell touring Australia

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 3: with Paul Kelly, and when Paul continues his tour to

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01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 3: New Zealand, Jason goes home to the States and see,

1528
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 3: I've never even heard of Jason as Bell, so we're

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01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 3: just we're just off here talking about people we've never

1530
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: heard of coming to the country. So we've got we

1531
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 3: seem to be and I don't want to overplay this

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 3: or overstate this, but we seem to be a country

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01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: now in terms of entertainment where a lot of people

1534
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 3: you've never heard of come and tour, whereas the people

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01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 3: you have heard of don't come here anymore or not

1536
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 3: even Jason Isbell. And so when Isabelle's not touring New Zealand,

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: something's gone wrong with the touring industry. Twenty three minutes

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01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: away from nine.

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01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: International Correspondence with insin Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for

1540
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: New Zealand business.

1541
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 3: But can't we go Roderick?

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Speaker 10: How are you?

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01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 3: Good morning?

1544
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 12: Good bonnet as well? Mate.

1545
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 3: I know that starmers in Canada and I get all

1546
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 3: that is probably how relieved that he is. But this

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01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 3: report that's come out on the grooming and I followed

1548
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 3: this for a sustained period of time. Is he politically

1549
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 3: embarrassed by this? Given it was all a local authority

1550
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: thing until now banying the reports? Is it's not and

1551
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: it's on his plate.

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01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 12: Yes he is. He's very embarrassed by this. Firstly, he

1553
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 12: didn't want a national inquiry into the grooming gangs, which

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 12: were all rape gangs, let's call them rape gangs, which

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 12: were carried out by largely Pakistani Muslim men across the country.

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 12: He didn't want any of that. And now he's hat

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01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 12: to listen to Baroness Casey who did a review of

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01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 12: the cases and said that there was a definite racial

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 12: and ethnic identity to them. Well, indeed, Louise, thank you

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 12: for that. And so he's very very embarrassed by has

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01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 12: had to do yet another U turn and now there

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Speaker 12: will be an inquiry and that's difficult for him on

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 12: two cases. Firstly, because in a lot of the cases,

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01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 12: the areas where the inquiry will figure the people who

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01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 12: didn't take any notice of what was going on their

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01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 12: labor authorities, and there were labor authorities then their labor

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01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 12: authorities now. And secondly, also having allowed the inquiry to

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01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 12: go ahead, the National Inquiry, he loses a bit of

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 12: faith again amongst the Muslim voters for the Labor Party,

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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 12: who will be thinking why us, why us?

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01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,919
Speaker 3: Could it be because it is then in this particular

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 3: case and was part of the problem. Nobody wanted to

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01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 3: decide this is a Pakistani thing and we need to

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01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 3: deal with that.

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, of course it is. Of course it is. And

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 12: it's also I think up to the communities which are

1577
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 12: copying and saying why are you because the argument, of

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 12: course is that there are more cases committed by white

1579
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 12: pedophiles than there are by Pakistani pedafiles. Yes, that's because

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01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 12: we constitute eighty five percent of the population. You know

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 12: that there is a clear method, methodolog dogical notion here

1582
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 12: that you know you look at this because it has

1583
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 12: the same pattern, the same patterns across the country of

1584
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 12: elderly Pakistani men grooming young white girls. Only white girls,

1585
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 12: always Pakistani or Muslim men and you know it's unanswerable,

1586
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 12: and so it builds up a huge problem for Starma,

1587
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 12: firstly about the far left, which I think it should

1588
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 12: go ahead, and secondly amongst those who saying, well, why

1589
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 12: didn't you do anything before? And thirdly because those authorrities

1590
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 12: didn't do anything in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. We'll follow up with interest as regards the Middle East,

1592
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 3: you're involved, You've got EGIT fighters, your essits are under

1593
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 3: some sort of threat. Allegedly, where does Britain think this

1594
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 3: broadly is going.

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 12: Britain doesn't know. Britain has been excluded from this conflict entirely,

1596
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 12: largely a consequence I suspect of the government's decisions over

1597
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 12: the last couple of months to start hammering down on

1598
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 12: Israel and saying gas is going too far, and when well,

1599
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 12: we can't support this, we're in favor of the arms embargo,

1600
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 12: et cetera. And so it's been excluded entirely, has has

1601
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 12: much of Europe from the discussions, the chief political discussions,

1602
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 12: the intelligence discussions, as so what is going to happen

1603
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 12: between Israel and Iran in a way that the USA

1604
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 12: has been co opted at every measure and that's a problem.

1605
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 12: It's a problem to the government. It's a problem which

1606
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 12: is it's difficult for us relating to our ally Israel

1607
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 12: and Starma has to sort it out. We should know

1608
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 12: whose sides we're on between Iran and Israel.

1609
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 3: Is there a lot of I just follow a couple

1610
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 3: of people on social media Australia I know are looking

1611
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 3: at repatriation flights. I mean, you give me a lot

1612
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 3: of Brits, for example, go to Israel for the weekend

1613
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 3: for a wedding and they've got a lot of Brits

1614
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 3: stuck there at the moment because the flights aren't going

1615
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 3: in and out there. Are you looking at repatriating flights

1616
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 3: or anything like that at all or not?

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01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 12: Not yet, though there is a problem I'm meant to

1618
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 12: be having. There was someone who's stuck in Ben Gurian

1619
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 12: for the next couple of days on Tomorrow night, as

1620
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 12: it happens. So it is a problem, but there's no

1621
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 12: there's no indication that we're going to be doing anything

1622
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 12: about it in the short term.

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Speaker 3: Give us a quick weather forecast. I've got a heat

1624
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: wave coming in, the first heat wave of the season

1625
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 3: coming in at thirty But I've also got a thunderstorm

1626
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: warning in a drought. How bad's the drought and how

1627
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: hot is it?

1628
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,799
Speaker 12: The crout is very bad in many parts of the country.

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01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 12: There's no doubt whatsoever. I'm living up here in the

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01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 12: North Benines and it's been remarkably free of rain. Whereas

1631
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 12: rain is the default with the weather system, which you

1632
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 12: would expect up here. It has been very very dry

1633
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 12: this year, and I think we are in for problems

1634
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,799
Speaker 12: this summer. Depends how hot the summer is. The tendency

1635
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 12: recently has been to have very dry springs and winters

1636
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 12: and then slightly wetter summers and less warm summers. If

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01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 12: that changes at all, we are in a big problem.

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01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 3: All right, Mike, you go well, catch up Thursday. Appreciate it.

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01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: Just before we leave. A couple other quick things. As

1640
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: a Suffolk I peak called Patrick Spencer. He's played not

1641
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 3: guilty to a couple accounts of sexual assault at London's

1642
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 3: Groucho Club. He's the Central Suffolk and North ipswhich e

1643
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 3: MP only elected last year. Two assaults on two women

1644
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: alleged same day back in August of twenty three. He's

1645
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 3: thirty seven. He's a Conservative Tory. He appeared at the

1646
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 3: Westminster Magistrates. He's next to you at the Stubbock in July.

1647
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 3: I could tell you about a Scottish MP if you like.

1648
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 3: In fact, he's the Health Secretary, Neil Gray. Turns out

1649
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: he quite likes the old Shefford limousine. And then when

1650
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 3: he goes to fill out the paperwork on the Shefferd limousine,

1651
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: he gives addresses and places he doesn't live, so that's

1652
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 3: element of scandal. Then we've got the HS two, which

1653
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 3: is the fast train between London and Birmingham. One of

1654
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 3: the contractors been pinged for fraud, so they're looking at

1655
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 3: in fact two contractors, looking at a couple of firms

1656
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: who supplied it with workers. Transport Secretary expected to raise

1657
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 3: the issue in Parliament this week. Myriad of problems spiraling

1658
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 3: costs that thing, the HS two if you followed that,

1659
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 3: that was first announced in two thousand and nine and

1660
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 3: still is an open or anywhere close. Sixteen two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

1662
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: By News talksb.

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 3: News Talks thirteen Away from Line. Ashley Cook apparently came here.

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01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: She was very good. I came and went twenty eight

1665
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 3: years old. Have just looked her up, so hopefully if

1666
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: you went, you thoroughly enjoyed that.

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01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 9: Mic.

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Speaker 3: I just thought i'd mention I don't believe there's been

1669
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: enough coverage of the superb drive that SVG did yesterday,

1670
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: being the best Americas has to offer by sixteen and

1671
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: a half seconds with a stomach bug and flight issues,

1672
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 3: missing key track and walk time. Absolute clinic Dan, it's

1673
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 3: probably fair SVG Shanne benng Gisbergen won a NASCAR so

1674
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 3: I guess that's fair enough. Mike car was working in

1675
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 3: London thirteen years ago on the HS two Economic Impacts Report.

1676
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: The analytics or the analysis was that it had very

1677
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 3: low net benefits, but the government rejected that analysis and

1678
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 3: paid for someone else to inflate it. It's a dog,

1679
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: a dog that's going now with let me ask you

1680
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: this question. We had a very interesting thing on the

1681
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 3: BBC yesterday and it comes into the very broad heading

1682
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 3: of hypocrisy. So we are in the Raja armpart Achipellaco,

1683
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 3: which is in Indonesia where they do very pretty part

1684
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: of the world as you can imagine, as most archipelagos are,

1685
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 3: and they're doing a bit of nickel mining at the moment,

1686
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 3: and unfortunately the forests have been stripped and the waters

1687
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 3: have been polluted, and it was one of the most

1688
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: biodverse marine habitats on Earth. And why am I telling

1689
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: you about this while they've sort of woken up to

1690
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: the idea they might be wrecking the place through mining?

1691
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 3: Why are they mining this nickel? And the answer is

1692
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 3: because they need a lot of nickel to make evs.

1693
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 3: And it sort of occurred to me. And we don't

1694
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 3: seem to have the conversation ever, do we that the

1695
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: land use for mining multiple islands. It's increased by five

1696
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 3: hundred hectares equivalent to about seven hundred football pitches between

1697
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. And we seem to

1698
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 3: find that mining for nickel is somehow acceptable as long

1699
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 3: as it's going to an EV. But mining for oil

1700
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 3: and gas, if it was going God forbidden too, I

1701
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 3: don't know an engine, is completely unacceptable. How is it

1702
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 3: that mining and wrecking a place for something you perceive

1703
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: to be the future is good, and yet the same

1704
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,759
Speaker 3: activity for something you don't like anymore is not acceptable?

1705
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 3: How is it you can pack a big sad about that?

1706
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 15: I guess I mean once you'd finished with your battery

1707
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 15: and your EV you can use it to power your fridge.

1708
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 3: Remember, yeah, No, that was Julian Jent's finest moment in

1709
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 3: Modern New Zealand.

1710
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 15: Was whereas you just burn up the oil and the gas,

1711
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 15: it just goes.

1712
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 3: It's gone.

1713
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 15: Atmosphere and the world hotter and rainy.

1714
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: It do you or actually, let me ask you different.

1715
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: How many people do you know that run there for

1716
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 3: a Jona battery from their rev?

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Speaker 15: I just count them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly? Turn away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The make Hosking Breakfast with Veda Retirement Communities News togs.

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Speaker 3: Head bes like you're liking Season four of Clarkson's Farm.

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01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 3: Thoroughly enjoyed it. Polished it off last weekend or the

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01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: weekend before. Watched it a couple at a time. Very

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 3: very beautiful filmmaking. The story quite good, can go forever.

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01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: It's about seasons. I mentioned it the other day. They

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01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: had the worst winter. This was from last year, the

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01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: worst winter in living memory. As I mentioned with Roder

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01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: moment ago, they're having the warmest sun in a living memory.

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Speaker 3: So he's in a drought. He was due here to

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 3: promote the show, but he didn't come because of the drought.

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01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: But if you followed the tabloids in Britain, there are

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Speaker 3: two women who appeared on the series and advised him

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Speaker 3: on opening the pub, you know, in terms of furnishings

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Speaker 3: and how to run the place. And all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden in the I think it was the last episode,

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Speaker 3: they told him to get umbrellas, and he looked at

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Speaker 3: the price of the umbrellas outdoor umbrellas, this says. And

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01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 3: he looked at the price of the umbrellas and they

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01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 3: were too expensive, so he didn't so he got a

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01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 3: tarp and the tap looked richt to iculo us, and

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01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: then he went out and pulled umbrellas. But then he

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: suddenly said after they opened, and when they opened, it

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01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 3: was a complete night cluster for a variety of reasons.

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01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: He said the two women had gone. They lasted forty

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Speaker 3: eight hours, and they'd told him that it was about

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01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 3: to implode, that the staff were over it, that the

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01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: place was a mess, and so he said, they've gone that.

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Speaker 3: I thought, this is going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: how this plays out in the real world. In the

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01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: real world, it's an antie and nice firm. These two

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: ladies who sort of advise on Hospo and they've had

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01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 3: because they sign an NDA with Amazon, they sort of

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01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: can't say anything, and so they're sort of getting rained

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01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 3: all over at the moment on the socials because they

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01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: look like the bad guys, when in fact, without knowing

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01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: the full story, they don't look I don't believe them

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01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 3: to be the bad guys at all. It could be

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01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: that just Jeremy's a pain in the ass to deal with. Well,

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01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 3: you reckon, So anyway, I hope their business goes okay.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of famous people, five to Night.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist's Warehouse the Real House of Vitamins.

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01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 3: Now. Will Smith put out an album. He's sort of

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01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 3: trending this morning for reasons I'll explain in a moment.

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01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 3: But he put out an album in April, and it

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01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 3: was his first album in twenty years, and the album's call,

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01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 3: based on a true story, Died of Death, sold Turner

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01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 3: sixty eight copies in the first week, downloaded thirty eight times.

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01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: But he brought out a music video for the song

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01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 3: pretty Girls, which is why it's gone viral.

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: I like pretty Girl.

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01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 3: I love pretty gurl.

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01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 9: I like pretty Girl.

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01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 3: I'm worry gets bitter. I love pretty Girl.

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01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: You don't gotta wait in line tonight. You're too fine

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01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: for the line tonight.

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01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 3: Five plus five you were diamond night.

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01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 15: It's a full house.

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01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: Better play at cards, right. I'm a post yo bick.

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01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: If you pose, make one fault call you in folk shoulders,

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01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: knees choes, Hold up, wait pose.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to do something investing. I spent it on

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01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: you and your best dat.

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01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 3: How's this game?

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01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 12: Jets?

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01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 3: This county game?

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01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: If you like pretty?

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01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 15: Is it ironic? Like it's exceded? Like you know a

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01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 15: little bit of Alexa? Is it ext of a little

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01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 15: little Alexis?

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01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 3: Rather a little little bit of Alexis I'm a little

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01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 3: bit of Lexus. Last time I met Will Smith was

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01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 3: in the Crown Casino in Melbourne, a pretty girl drink

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01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 3: and I was in a room with Will and Tommy

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01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 3: Lee b yelled and Lara Flynn Boyle.

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01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 15: And by Tommy Lee Jones. I'm not Tommy Lee the drummer.

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01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 3: That would have been weird.

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01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 15: Only if he was videoing you. But carry on.

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01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 3: That's true. So Will was the nicest guy on the world,

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01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 3: Like I thought, how was it? And he reminds me

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01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 3: very much of Tom Cruise. You know, he's working the room,

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01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 3: and you know he doesn't want to be there, and

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01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 3: you know he's done this a thousand times before, and

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01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 3: you know he couldn't give the monkeys about me, But

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01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 3: for that moment, he had that ability to make you

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01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 3: think that you were really cool. Lara Flynn Boyle and

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01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 3: Tommy Lee not so much.

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01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 12: It was weird.

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01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 15: Fairly recently, I was a movie world Yes on the

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01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 15: Wild wore West right, and they still play that song

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01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 15: NonStop in the queue, Wow Wow West. I'm not sure

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01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 15: that it's aged.

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Speaker 3: Well, mind you, Glenn. Neither of We back tomorrow morning

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Speaker 3: at six Happy Days.

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Speaker 2: For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks at B from six am weekdays,

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