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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b Now.

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Speaker 3: It's He's all.

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Speaker 4: Around gold to Rodi orb Now rooms, Babe, who's tipping you?

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Speaker 4: Pull me back?

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Speaker 2: Hell?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is he Baby Johnie caw Girl crazy, hear

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Speaker 4: you thing Houn cool? Cowboy Ou.

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Speaker 5: Kayleie Bell is one of the most exciting and certainly

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Speaker 5: accomplished voices in New Zealand country music. She's not only

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Speaker 5: the most extreame female country music artist in Australasia, but

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Speaker 5: she's got a Country Music Award for Global Country Artists

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Speaker 5: to her name, collected by Kaylie herself in the home

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Speaker 5: of the genre, Nashville, Tennessee. Her new album, Cowboy Up,

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Speaker 5: comes out next Friday, and Kaylee Bell is here with

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Speaker 5: us this morning.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for being here, Jack Tame.

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Speaker 7: It's lovely to be here, lovely to be speaking with you.

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Speaker 7: Cowboy Up is out this week. How excited are you?

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Speaker 7: How the vibes at the moment?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean just to have a new album is

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Speaker 6: like It's one of the most exciting things as an

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Speaker 6: artist because it means more touring, it means you know,

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Speaker 6: new songs. New songs are always great to play and

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Speaker 6: to have fans discover and yeah, I just feel like

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Speaker 6: we're building a really cool catalog now of music that

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Speaker 6: we get to, like I said, get out on the

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Speaker 7: And well there's that other thing too, is that you've

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Speaker 7: been working on it for ages. Yeah, and then it's

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Speaker 7: like you've got a hold a bat holder back, hold back,

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Speaker 7: holder back, and then finally the flag date it's are released.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think that's the weird thing is that like none

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Speaker 6: of this is like new to me, because it's like

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Speaker 6: you said, like you start working on this stuff like

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Speaker 6: a year ago. This record was particularly fun to make.

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Speaker 6: I was about thirty four weeks pregnant when my producer

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Speaker 6: flew out from Nashville and it actually, yeah, he came

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Speaker 6: to New Zealand, which was amazing to bring a bit

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Speaker 6: of Nashville to New Zealand to make the record, and

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Speaker 6: we just kind of set up at the studio at home,

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Speaker 6: and I just loved the way we worked. It was

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Speaker 6: way more collaborative, you know, sort of get up, go

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Speaker 6: at home, and it was really it triggered something in

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Speaker 6: me that I was like this is how I want

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Speaker 6: to make my records now, as opposed to previously, you know,

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Speaker 6: going to Nashville and it being very hictic and you're

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Speaker 6: kind of slotting in with people sort of schedules, whereas

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Speaker 6: this way it felt like my producer Tom also just

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Speaker 6: loved being in New Zealand, you know, around nature. Just

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Speaker 6: it just felt like such a wholesome way to make

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Speaker 7: So do you think the pregnancy was a component in that.

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Speaker 7: I think so.

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Speaker 6: I was definitely kind of just working right up till

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Speaker 6: I couldn't work. But it was twenty four weeks is like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was like we just got off the Cane Brown

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Speaker 6: that point where it was like I think enough's enough now,

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Speaker 6: Like I think I need to sit still, but my

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Speaker 6: to be able to like just be at home making

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Speaker 6: being able to be incredibly engaged in what we were doing.

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Speaker 6: And then all the all the music was made back

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Speaker 6: dudes that played on the record, and it just it

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Speaker 6: just shows how just another way of how things can

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Speaker 6: nothing's like there's no one way anymore, and that's what

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Speaker 6: I loved about that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny when you think about the kind of

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Speaker 7: ways in which you are like bringing together people from

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Speaker 7: quite amazing. Do you reckon the Do you reckon? The

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Speaker 7: music that you wrote? Was was different because you were expecting.

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Speaker 6: I think, Yeah, There's been a few songs that I've

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Speaker 6: So I feel like always kind of trying to grow

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Speaker 6: there's a song on the record for that period of

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Speaker 6: and it was a real shock for us. I was

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Speaker 6: like I said, show that side of me. And then yeah,

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Speaker 6: some of the other songs. I wrote one in New

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Speaker 6: and it was just like such an exciting time and

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Speaker 6: I was like, I need to be writing some songs

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Speaker 6: So there's a few songs from when I was in

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Speaker 6: to write like from the live perspective, because the goal

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Speaker 6: Shania Twain footsteps ideally one day and play these songs

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Speaker 6: just anthems on the record, and I think we've got

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Speaker 6: a few of those as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, congratulations on James. Let us really special. I think

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Speaker 7: we have babies about the same age we do. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: how does it react when you play.

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Speaker 6: He loves music? For the first six weeks, I know

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Speaker 6: six weeks I just only played Tina Arena, and I've

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Speaker 6: slowly been opening it up to other female Yeah. I

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Speaker 6: love that he listens to our music. You know, like

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Speaker 6: there'll be a time where we'll have to, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's like the radio and a lot of country music,

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Speaker 7: So you've got that song with the Wiggles I do have.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 6: I feel like he's going to grow up and think

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Speaker 6: that it's normal that your mum. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 6: just like waiting on that one.

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Speaker 7: If it makes you feel any better.

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Speaker 5: You know, baby's only seven months and we're not trying

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Speaker 5: my wife sent me a little video the other day

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Speaker 5: of him watching me on TV. I know, but look confused.

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Speaker 3: I mean right, it's like, but you would just yeah,

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Speaker 7: On a second, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: How do people in Nashville think about your music? Like,

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Speaker 5: how do they react when they see a Kiwi girl

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Speaker 6: That's a great question. I feel like Americans love Americans,

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Speaker 6: like gone. And because I grew up on so much

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Speaker 6: how does that, you know, translate to that? So I

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Speaker 6: You know, Like I said, that's just how I sing,

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Speaker 6: That's how I grew up singing. And yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: I really do feel like we're starting to get to

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Speaker 6: a more global place with country music, like country music

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Speaker 6: I think people are really starting to embrace that. And

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Speaker 6: I've probably seen a change in the last five years,

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Speaker 6: fifteen or sixteen years now, but I've really feel like

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Speaker 6: the last five years, I've noticed quite a considerable change

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Speaker 6: and they're embracing that a.

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Speaker 7: Lot more to say, because of global moment, I think so.

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Speaker 6: And country is very much mainstream now, as you know,

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Speaker 6: back to back country songs. I mean, growing up here,

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Speaker 7: And yeah, eachuron wants to wants to be country now.

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Speaker 6: I was like, please, can you please?

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Speaker 3: Like it's actually wild.

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Speaker 6: I think anyone that spent time in Nashville as an artist,

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Speaker 6: the songwriting scene there. It's like I always like, it's

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Speaker 6: kind of like the respect Rugby gets in New Zealand,

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Speaker 6: I would say is the respect that songwriting gets in America,

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Speaker 6: particularly Nashville. It's people's day to day job, it's the

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Speaker 6: nine to five. Everyone's chasing a new song every single day.

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Speaker 6: It can't help but get swept up in that kind

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Speaker 6: these pop artists like each year and and there's been

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Speaker 6: a lot of time making them, even their albums that

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Speaker 6: aren't country in Nashville, because you can't help but just

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Speaker 7: I think it'd be interested for your thoughts. My sense

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Speaker 7: is that obviously there's the musicality, but I reckon the

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Speaker 7: storytelling music. Lyrics is like a really central part of it.

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Speaker 7: Like story is so central to country music one.

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Speaker 6: I think that is the thing that differentiates it from pop.

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Speaker 6: You know, country music has still got a lot of

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Speaker 6: like pop melodies. Like you look at Keith Urban, He'll

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Speaker 6: be the first to say that he starts a lot

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Speaker 6: of his songs with a melody or a groove or

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Speaker 6: a feel, and he has a lot of pop sensibility.

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Speaker 6: But then the thing that always brings him back to

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Speaker 6: country is, as you say, the storytelling. And I don't know,

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Speaker 6: for whatever reason post COVID, I think people have just

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Speaker 6: got back to like wanting real stories and like connection

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Speaker 6: with people. And I think that is why, like country

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Speaker 6: is a genre is just popping off, because it's like

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Speaker 6: you feel something and you hear about someone else's life

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Speaker 6: and it can't help but make you feel something thing

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Speaker 6: whatever that is.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So Cowboy Up is out this week, You're going

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Speaker 6: He is coming on the road. He's he's a seasoned pro.

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Speaker 7: You know, Well, we're delighted that you've come in to

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Speaker 7: see us. Thank you so much, And you're going to

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Speaker 6: Perform my my latest single actually if that's okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's a song called the Thing about Us, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's a sleeping on a suitings the WK home, take

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Speaker 3: Here we go together, man, we know it. Everything is

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Speaker 2: That's the thing about Sunshine, kids sitting on my shoulder

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Speaker 3: See the way you're looking over your rights, finding me

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Speaker 3: Baby. That's a thing about us. Baby, that's the thing

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Speaker 2: Because you're reading my mind when I lost it, keep

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Speaker 3: Looking before we got it. The sweetest thing I ever found.

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Speaker 2: Baby, that's a thing about Sunshine kissing on my shoulder

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Speaker 3: We know this is a forever kind of love. Baby.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing about us.

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Speaker 2: Baby, that's the thing about us, because we're falling in seed.

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Speaker 2: think is never getting better? Long nights thing, can God beware? Together,

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Speaker 2: Baby, that's a ping about us. Oh yeah, baby, that's

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Speaker 3: Ping about us.

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Speaker 7: That was amazing. Thank you, thanks, oh so good to

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Speaker 7: have you here. Congratulations on Cowboy Up.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Exciting That is Kelly bell Ah just my heart's singing

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Speaker 5: right now. That's just really, really, really special. Indeed, we've

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Speaker 5: got all the details for Cowboy Up on the News

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