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Speaker 2: Hello, there you on a good evening evening. It's midday, Andy,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon. Welcome into the Sunday edition of Weekend Sport

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Speaker 2: on News Talk ZEDB. What a start February eighth. Trust

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Speaker 2: you're enjoying your long weekend. Maybe that's what threw me.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine. Show producer is Andy McDonald. We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk sport with you until three this afternoon. Blackaps

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Speaker 2: T twenty World Cup is underway Wednesday, of the night

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Speaker 2: for Pakistan, the West Indies and hosts India. New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: up from Rob Walter after the two o'clock News this time.

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Speaker 2: Next weekend, Round one of Super Rugby Pacific will be

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Speaker 2: in the books. Across this weekend, we've been checking in

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Speaker 2: with all six of the New Zealand based Super Rugby franchises.

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Speaker 2: We covered off the Crusaders, the Blues and ma Waita

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Speaker 2: Pacific yesterday Today it's the Hurricanes, the Chiefs and the Highlanders.

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Speaker 2: Clark laid Lord, John Ogibbs and Clark Dermody all on

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Speaker 2: the show this afternoon. First up today, Super Rugby CEO

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Speaker 2: Jack Mesley on the law changes that have been announced

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Speaker 2: for the competition this year. Came for your reaction to

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Speaker 2: these as well. Once you've heard the rationale from Jack Mesley.

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Speaker 2: In particular, what effect might these rule changes have on

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Speaker 2: players who go from Super Rugby to Test rugby where

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Speaker 2: those rules do not apply? We can kick that around

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Speaker 2: this out other matters around today. Super Bowl sixty tomorrow

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Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks against the New England Patriots at Levi's Stadium,

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Speaker 2: Bowl Week in super Bowl City? Looking forward to Mark

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Speaker 2: joining us this afternoon. The NRL All Stars Weekend returns

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Speaker 2: The men's game, women's game in this Game of touch

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Speaker 2: as well Paramta eelstar Kennedy Cherrington part of the New

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Speaker 2: And thirteen year old Wellington golfer Elise Barber has been

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Speaker 2: handed the final invite to the women's Amateur Asia Pacific

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World

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Speaker 2: So Super Rugby Pacific twenty twenty six is all but

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Speaker 2: upon us and the season will look a little bit

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Speaker 2: different thanks to some new law changes which were announced

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Speaker 2: in the week past. Let's find out more about them,

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Speaker 2: bringing Super Rugby Pacific CEO Jack Mentley. Jack, thanks for

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Speaker 2: What was the general intent of making any tweaks at all?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what we've seen over the past couple

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Speaker 3: We had a wonderful season last year where the match

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Speaker 3: the intent is that we play the best rugby in

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go through some of these changes and

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Speaker 3: Well, you know in that situation what happens, you know

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Speaker 3: hand that back to them to go, well is it?

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Speaker 3: What really? Is that impreement really worth a penalty dry

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Speaker 2: Accidental offsides and teams delaying playing the ball away from

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Speaker 2: a ruck are going to result in free kicks rather

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Speaker 2: than scrums. This is This has generated a bit of conversation.

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to depower scrums and limit the effectiveness

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Speaker 3: No, I mean you know, what what fans have told

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Speaker 3: see the game sped up. What we are not trying

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Speaker 3: So you know, also if you think about you know,

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Speaker 3: for a caterpillar. Right now, our refs are saying use

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Speaker 3: But the infringement last year and through World Rugby's eyes

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Speaker 3: Now our refs, you know, know that that is another

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Speaker 3: lengthy delay in the game, and so they're less likely

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Speaker 3: Now we want that ball to be clear. We want

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Speaker 2: At the base and a similar part of the game.

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Speaker 2: After the referees call use it at a ruck, no

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Speaker 2: So just talk a bit about that one.

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Speaker 3: We want to put pressure on our players to execute

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Speaker 3: you want see is, you know, these guys dawdling in

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Speaker 2: The next one I want to ask you about is

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Speaker 2: the fact that teams can now pass the ball back

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Speaker 2: into their own half before kicking a fifty twenty two. Previously,

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Speaker 2: of course, you have to already be there so what's

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Speaker 2: the intent behind this one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is probably the one that's you know,

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Speaker 3: follow for everyone. The intent here is to create greater

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Speaker 3: We hope that this will do that. And also from

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Speaker 3: the box sticks are coming from, we think this gives

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Speaker 2: Do you think it might also, though, encourage teams to

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Speaker 2: kick more If the fifty twenty two is more often

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Speaker 3: Potentially. Well, I don't think it'll mean will have more

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Speaker 2: The other one that of court that I want to

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Speaker 2: just you know, is the intent to speed things up

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure we've all sat there and seen a

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Speaker 3: So you know, we don't want those frustration. You know,

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Speaker 2: All right, and the TMO love this one. You've tightened

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Speaker 2: the TMO. That's what you're after.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and really important to say that this is no

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Speaker 3: change from where Souper has been at in the last

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Speaker 3: want to really communicate that that is Super's position, you know,

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Speaker 3: and we think it works really well and we want,

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Speaker 3: about the results that we're getting from that. So no

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Speaker 3: change there. We do limit the use of the TMO

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Speaker 3: for those significant our play incidents or clear and obvious

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Speaker 3: we've seen this work really well. It does mean our referees,

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Speaker 3: you know, we are putting the emphasis on referees to

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Speaker 3: and we're really confident to give them more power to

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Speaker 2: I guess then you have to accept, don't you that

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, Jack, All right, well, yeah, number thirty on

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Speaker 2: An exciting season upon us a week away. Jack, Thanks

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Speaker 2: Always good to chat, Jack thinks. Indeed, Jack Mesley, they're

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Speaker 2: It's a good tweak. It makes sense. I remember a

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Speaker 2: he noticed that Northern Hemisphere crowds are huge compared to

430
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Speaker 2: the diminishing interest in the Southern Hemisphere. Perhaps he's missing

431
00:24:13,787 --> 00:24:15,947
Speaker 2: what people go to see. We're getting away from the

432
00:24:15,987 --> 00:24:18,587
Speaker 2: core of rugby, Ted. I think he has seen the

433
00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:22,867
Speaker 2: diminishing interest in the Southern Hemisphere game big crowds, Yes,

434
00:24:22,907 --> 00:24:24,987
Speaker 2: for international games up there. I'm not sure that the

435
00:24:25,027 --> 00:24:29,947
Speaker 2: crowds for Heineken Kap and the club competitions up there

436
00:24:29,707 --> 00:24:34,867
Speaker 2: are absolutely enormous. Yes, they're big crowds for the Six

437
00:24:34,987 --> 00:24:38,227
Speaker 2: Nations test matches, as they are for All Blacks test matches.

438
00:24:38,947 --> 00:24:41,227
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what's happened here, is that they've

439
00:24:41,267 --> 00:24:46,067
Speaker 2: seen the diminishing crowds and viewer numbers and have said

440
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Speaker 2: about doing something about it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

441
00:24:51,587 --> 00:24:55,187
Speaker 2: ten eighty is our number, but he Jack Mesley's not

442
00:24:55,187 --> 00:24:57,387
Speaker 2: available for CEO of New Zeller Rugby says this one

443
00:24:57,427 --> 00:24:59,227
Speaker 2: year he might make a pretty good fist of that.

444
00:24:59,547 --> 00:25:01,027
Speaker 2: Can I Phil, what do you think of the of

445
00:25:01,067 --> 00:25:02,307
Speaker 2: the Super Rugby Tweaks.

446
00:25:03,427 --> 00:25:04,547
Speaker 5: Okay, point he are you?

447
00:25:05,427 --> 00:25:07,947
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good, philm excellent, excellent.

448
00:25:08,027 --> 00:25:12,867
Speaker 5: I wouldn't expect anything else. I like it. I think

449
00:25:12,867 --> 00:25:16,187
Speaker 5: it's good. I was listening and you I thought, I

450
00:25:16,227 --> 00:25:20,707
Speaker 5: think a great point about the semi final, you know,

451
00:25:20,787 --> 00:25:24,067
Speaker 5: like the Chiefs that situation last year where they they

452
00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:27,067
Speaker 5: ended up hosting the thing even though they lost, So

453
00:25:27,107 --> 00:25:29,067
Speaker 5: that they can't do that anymore. I think that's a

454
00:25:29,067 --> 00:25:34,067
Speaker 5: good move, and I think the TMO is great. That's

455
00:25:34,067 --> 00:25:36,347
Speaker 5: a great I think that's where the TOMO should be at.

456
00:25:36,467 --> 00:25:38,907
Speaker 5: That's where it should be. That's where the TMO should

457
00:25:38,907 --> 00:25:41,587
Speaker 5: be at having only those abilities. So I think that's

458
00:25:41,587 --> 00:25:44,387
Speaker 5: a fantastic move to cut that down so they won't

459
00:25:44,427 --> 00:25:46,867
Speaker 5: be able to get in the situation like we've seen

460
00:25:46,947 --> 00:25:49,467
Speaker 5: last year where they went back sometimes three or four

461
00:25:49,547 --> 00:25:52,507
Speaker 5: plays to pull something up, you know, or some little

462
00:25:52,547 --> 00:25:56,227
Speaker 5: thing that they would come in on and stop the game.

463
00:25:56,547 --> 00:25:59,747
Speaker 5: And I think too with the set piece, I don't

464
00:25:59,747 --> 00:26:01,787
Speaker 5: think like you're saying in a Northern hemisphere and that

465
00:26:02,107 --> 00:26:03,667
Speaker 5: might say, oh, they're trying to get rid of the

466
00:26:03,707 --> 00:26:06,027
Speaker 5: set piece now, but they always have the set piece,

467
00:26:06,107 --> 00:26:08,707
Speaker 5: like the scrum and that will never it'll never go

468
00:26:08,747 --> 00:26:12,427
Speaker 5: because it's an incredentricral part of the game. But I

469
00:26:12,467 --> 00:26:15,107
Speaker 5: think it's actually a good thing cutting it, cutting it back,

470
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Speaker 5: because one of the things that you get really frustrated

471
00:26:18,107 --> 00:26:20,307
Speaker 5: with when you're watching a game of rugby is if

472
00:26:20,347 --> 00:26:23,187
Speaker 5: we're having a scrum and it collapses three or four

473
00:26:23,267 --> 00:26:25,427
Speaker 5: times in your eseck and you're up and down. It

474
00:26:25,427 --> 00:26:27,547
Speaker 5: stops the game. It takes a couple of minutes and

475
00:26:27,587 --> 00:26:29,867
Speaker 5: go here we go again, and the momentum is lost

476
00:26:29,907 --> 00:26:33,027
Speaker 5: and you get frostrated. And that's where people say, oh,

477
00:26:33,627 --> 00:26:36,987
Speaker 5: it slows the game right down. That's where people's frustration

478
00:26:37,107 --> 00:26:39,107
Speaker 5: comes and they say, oh, well, I'm sick of watching this,

479
00:26:39,187 --> 00:26:40,947
Speaker 5: and you won't going to go and watch the rugby

480
00:26:41,027 --> 00:26:43,587
Speaker 5: league because that's always go, go, go, So I don't.

481
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

482
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Speaker 5: I think it's actually a good thing for the set

483
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Speaker 5: piece and the scrum. It might make it more popular.

484
00:26:48,587 --> 00:26:51,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they haven't You're right, Phil, they haven't outlawed them.

485
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Speaker 4: You know.

486
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Speaker 2: It's not as though they've said every infringement is going

487
00:26:53,547 --> 00:26:55,187
Speaker 2: to be a free kick and not a scrum. The

488
00:26:55,227 --> 00:26:57,987
Speaker 2: only ones that are now going to be a free

489
00:26:58,067 --> 00:27:01,827
Speaker 2: kick rather than a scrum are accidental off sides and

490
00:27:01,867 --> 00:27:04,227
Speaker 2: if a team delays the playing of the ball away

491
00:27:04,267 --> 00:27:06,787
Speaker 2: from a rock, everything else that normally leads to a scrum,

492
00:27:07,147 --> 00:27:10,147
Speaker 2: a forward pass and knock on and such like will

493
00:27:10,227 --> 00:27:12,987
Speaker 2: still lead to a scrum. So you know you're still

494
00:27:13,027 --> 00:27:14,907
Speaker 2: going to see those in the game. And you're right

495
00:27:14,947 --> 00:27:18,427
Speaker 2: about the resets. Ross Bayd, my colleague in Wellington, is

496
00:27:20,267 --> 00:27:23,667
Speaker 2: it's one of his major bugbears is the resetting of

497
00:27:23,667 --> 00:27:26,827
Speaker 2: a scrum time and again, especially as the grounds get

498
00:27:26,867 --> 00:27:28,827
Speaker 2: a bit softer and the in the front rows can't

499
00:27:28,907 --> 00:27:30,667
Speaker 2: keep their feet. But it's not as though we're taking

500
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Speaker 2: the scrum out of the game. This isn't This isn't

501
00:27:32,747 --> 00:27:35,907
Speaker 2: what this is about. It's just speeding up certain aspects

502
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Speaker 2: of it.

503
00:27:37,747 --> 00:27:40,587
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's how I see it. And yeah, because

504
00:27:40,787 --> 00:27:43,227
Speaker 5: because sometimes you know, it feels like it's take five

505
00:27:43,307 --> 00:27:46,227
Speaker 5: minutes to get to scrum, like you know, and you're thinking,

506
00:27:46,427 --> 00:27:48,027
Speaker 5: I'll go and make a cup of tea, you know,

507
00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:50,507
Speaker 5: and they'll still they'll still be putting the ball in.

508
00:27:50,587 --> 00:27:54,867
Speaker 5: And if he said, but yeah, yeah, it's all just

509
00:27:55,027 --> 00:27:57,347
Speaker 5: to speed it up, isn't it, and make the game

510
00:27:57,547 --> 00:28:02,267
Speaker 5: better and more entertaining. And I think in terms of adapting, Like,

511
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Speaker 5: I don't think it will have any obvious effect on

512
00:28:04,627 --> 00:28:07,027
Speaker 5: air players when they go into play tests, and that

513
00:28:07,187 --> 00:28:10,147
Speaker 5: might even give them more options and may a bit

514
00:28:10,187 --> 00:28:12,667
Speaker 5: smarter and make them a bit smarter and improve it.

515
00:28:12,747 --> 00:28:14,787
Speaker 5: You know, I certainly don't think it'll hold them back

516
00:28:14,907 --> 00:28:16,107
Speaker 5: or inhibit them anyway.

517
00:28:16,267 --> 00:28:18,547
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought so, Phil, I wouldn't have thought so, mate.

518
00:28:18,787 --> 00:28:23,227
Speaker 2: Like I say, these are intelligent, intelligent sports people. You know,

519
00:28:23,307 --> 00:28:27,307
Speaker 2: they know when they go from one, you know, set

520
00:28:27,307 --> 00:28:29,267
Speaker 2: of rules to another that they have to adjust it.

521
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a cricketer going from T twenty

522
00:28:31,627 --> 00:28:33,867
Speaker 2: to fifty over cricket. You know, they know that they're

523
00:28:33,867 --> 00:28:35,667
Speaker 2: going to be out of bowl ten overs and in

524
00:28:35,707 --> 00:28:41,427
Speaker 2: the fifty over game only four in the T twenty pine.

525
00:28:41,427 --> 00:28:43,987
Speaker 2: I was at Jerry Collins Stadium yesterday, says Nigel, with

526
00:28:44,067 --> 00:28:45,947
Speaker 2: my four kids or with four kids. Sorry, And I

527
00:28:45,987 --> 00:28:48,907
Speaker 2: just didn't mean to didn't mean to assume they were

528
00:28:48,907 --> 00:28:52,107
Speaker 2: all yours. They had face painting, bouncy cars or ball

529
00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:55,667
Speaker 2: gamesrail hit with the kids most of all, though, really

530
00:28:55,707 --> 00:28:58,547
Speaker 2: impressed with the time and care the players gave to

531
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Speaker 2: the kids. At the end of the game, signing autographs

532
00:29:01,467 --> 00:29:03,867
Speaker 2: and chatting. It was great talking to the team that

533
00:29:03,987 --> 00:29:06,507
Speaker 2: kids were buzzing. Be great to have that at the

534
00:29:06,547 --> 00:29:09,627
Speaker 2: bigger stadiums during the rounds. Thanksnige or Yeah. Look, I

535
00:29:09,667 --> 00:29:14,387
Speaker 2: think all teams have really really upped their game when

536
00:29:14,387 --> 00:29:18,587
Speaker 2: it comes to connection with the fans. And you're right,

537
00:29:18,627 --> 00:29:20,907
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier at an intimate ground like Jerry

538
00:29:20,907 --> 00:29:24,627
Speaker 2: Collins Stadium Adam Pottydoo, where you know you're so close.

539
00:29:25,147 --> 00:29:27,427
Speaker 2: But I have noticed it. The Hurricanes do it, the

540
00:29:27,427 --> 00:29:29,507
Speaker 2: Phoenix do it. I'm sure that other teams around the

541
00:29:29,547 --> 00:29:32,227
Speaker 2: country do it as well. That they've made it a

542
00:29:32,347 --> 00:29:36,387
Speaker 2: habit of sectioning off an area after a game and

543
00:29:36,547 --> 00:29:38,947
Speaker 2: kids can go down there and slightly bigger kids that

544
00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:42,587
Speaker 2: they want to get their photos, get their autographs, have

545
00:29:42,707 --> 00:29:47,267
Speaker 2: a chat, meet their heroes. I was at the Phoenix game.

546
00:29:47,347 --> 00:29:49,267
Speaker 2: You forget how important this is. I was at the

547
00:29:49,267 --> 00:29:52,907
Speaker 2: Phoenix game the other day and I had a couple

548
00:29:52,907 --> 00:29:56,747
Speaker 2: of couple of friends children with me. Children. They were

549
00:29:56,747 --> 00:29:59,707
Speaker 2: fifteen and twelve. A couple of boys love their football

550
00:30:00,147 --> 00:30:04,227
Speaker 2: and they got the chance to meet Phoenix coach John Kloertaliana,

551
00:30:04,387 --> 00:30:06,987
Speaker 2: and he shook their hands and the younger of the

552
00:30:07,027 --> 00:30:09,867
Speaker 2: two boys said, I'm never washing my hand again from

553
00:30:09,947 --> 00:30:13,347
Speaker 2: having shaken the hand of the Phoenix coach. You know,

554
00:30:13,467 --> 00:30:15,067
Speaker 2: can you imagine what it must be like to meet

555
00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:19,147
Speaker 2: Damien McKenzie or Will Jordan or Bowden Barrett for these

556
00:30:19,827 --> 00:30:23,227
Speaker 2: you know, for these young fans. I think it bang

557
00:30:23,267 --> 00:30:26,987
Speaker 2: on Nigel, So hopefully that is something that continues. Oh,

558
00:30:27,027 --> 00:30:28,827
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty spear line, if you

559
00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:31,107
Speaker 2: want to jump aboard, We've got a bunch of text

560
00:30:31,147 --> 00:30:32,827
Speaker 2: here which I can get to, but ken to get

561
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Speaker 2: your thoughts well, Green, We're going to join us before

562
00:30:34,587 --> 00:30:38,707
Speaker 2: one as well. England, speaking of the Six Nations sides

563
00:30:38,747 --> 00:30:42,227
Speaker 2: have had a very comfortable one over Wales, who don't

564
00:30:42,227 --> 00:30:44,467
Speaker 2: seem to have improved at all from the last couple

565
00:30:44,507 --> 00:30:47,587
Speaker 2: of years. Seven tries to one at Twickenham, England putting

566
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Speaker 2: forty odd on Wales this morning. In the Six Nations,

567
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Speaker 2: what do they make of the rule changes as well?

568
00:30:53,747 --> 00:30:55,067
Speaker 2: Green would make of them. We'll get to him in

569
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Speaker 2: a minute. We need to be playing the same rules internationally.

570
00:31:00,027 --> 00:31:02,307
Speaker 2: It's just clear stupid not to be, says this text.

571
00:31:02,387 --> 00:31:05,947
Speaker 2: I don't understand why we have to Why do we

572
00:31:05,987 --> 00:31:09,627
Speaker 2: have to and Super Rugby play the same rules as

573
00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:15,027
Speaker 2: international rugby. As long as we're not playing two completely

574
00:31:15,027 --> 00:31:18,587
Speaker 2: different sports, why shouldn't we tweak it. Why shouldn't Super

575
00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:22,267
Speaker 2: rugby tweak it to make it better for the fans?

576
00:31:25,587 --> 00:31:29,107
Speaker 2: It sounds to me, says GT. The men have been

577
00:31:29,147 --> 00:31:31,707
Speaker 2: watching the women's game and seeing how quick recycling and

578
00:31:31,787 --> 00:31:35,107
Speaker 2: fast rucks make the game and how much more exciting

579
00:31:35,587 --> 00:31:38,467
Speaker 2: it is to watch. The best rugby to watch right

580
00:31:38,467 --> 00:31:40,827
Speaker 2: now is being played by the Canadian women's team. If

581
00:31:40,827 --> 00:31:43,667
Speaker 2: the men's game learns from them, then bring it on.

582
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Speaker 2: How are you, Glenn.

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Speaker 6: Finey good?

584
00:31:49,707 --> 00:31:49,947
Speaker 7: Good?

585
00:31:51,907 --> 00:31:52,427
Speaker 8: What are you think?

586
00:31:52,507 --> 00:31:54,467
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? You've got some other changes, some

587
00:31:54,547 --> 00:31:55,787
Speaker 2: other changes you'd like to see?

588
00:31:57,387 --> 00:32:01,027
Speaker 6: Yeah, just just the like some just a couple of

589
00:32:01,067 --> 00:32:05,547
Speaker 6: things that that that frustrate me when I'm watching rugby.

590
00:32:06,667 --> 00:32:12,747
Speaker 6: Is so so. The first thing is the the intentional

591
00:32:12,827 --> 00:32:16,587
Speaker 6: knock on, which will get a lot of people wound

592
00:32:16,667 --> 00:32:21,587
Speaker 6: up because intentional knock on the referee saying that you're

593
00:32:22,227 --> 00:32:24,787
Speaker 6: even if the guy was trying to intercept the ball,

594
00:32:25,667 --> 00:32:30,267
Speaker 6: the referees making his mind up that you intentionally knocked

595
00:32:30,307 --> 00:32:33,027
Speaker 6: the ball on, which is open to interpretation.

596
00:32:33,467 --> 00:32:36,747
Speaker 2: Terrible rule. Glenn, terrible. One of the worst rugby rules.

597
00:32:36,867 --> 00:32:37,267
Speaker 2: That one.

598
00:32:37,667 --> 00:32:40,307
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I thought you'd be on board with that one,

599
00:32:40,387 --> 00:32:44,027
Speaker 6: and then the second and then the second one is

600
00:32:45,387 --> 00:32:50,507
Speaker 6: is the never ending advantage when they're within five meters

601
00:32:50,547 --> 00:32:54,467
Speaker 6: of the try line. It's that that advantage can never

602
00:32:54,507 --> 00:32:58,867
Speaker 6: go away unless unless the attacking teams call a try

603
00:32:59,587 --> 00:33:04,147
Speaker 6: or they knock it on. So's a quick couple for me.

604
00:33:04,347 --> 00:33:06,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, Glenn. So you'd prefer just on

605
00:33:06,067 --> 00:33:08,307
Speaker 2: that one. You'd prefer that after a certain number of

606
00:33:08,347 --> 00:33:12,067
Speaker 2: phases they've had enough time to take advantage of the advantage.

607
00:33:12,347 --> 00:33:13,227
Speaker 2: Advantage over.

608
00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:19,067
Speaker 6: Yeah, advantage, and it goes to the advantage rule further

609
00:33:19,187 --> 00:33:24,027
Speaker 6: on anywhere on the paddock. The advantage rule just goes

610
00:33:24,067 --> 00:33:26,187
Speaker 6: on too long. It should strike in league as soon

611
00:33:26,187 --> 00:33:28,907
Speaker 6: as you cross the advantage line. It's advantage over.

612
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Speaker 2: Good thoughts, Glenn. Good thoughts make drive safe, good to

613
00:33:33,267 --> 00:33:36,027
Speaker 2: chatty as always, mate. The other one that's been suggested

614
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Speaker 2: by alexis why don't we outlaw the box kick? Outlining

615
00:33:40,387 --> 00:33:42,907
Speaker 2: the box kick? Geez, you get a few fans of that, Alex,

616
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Speaker 2: particularly on this show. Seventeen away from one News Talks,

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Speaker 2: there'd be back in a month.

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Speaker 1: Those Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport's Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most

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Speaker 1: trusted home builder News.

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Speaker 2: Talks' fourteen Away from One. England have sounded a warning

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Speaker 2: to their Six Nations rivals.

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Speaker 8: Who back in heats it through its final score.

624
00:34:08,267 --> 00:34:10,787
Speaker 2: That didn't sound like England did. That sounds like Elliott

625
00:34:11,027 --> 00:34:13,547
Speaker 2: this hand like Elliott Smith. That's not what I wanted

626
00:34:13,547 --> 00:34:18,147
Speaker 2: to play. Goodness me, shall we start again? England have

627
00:34:18,227 --> 00:34:22,707
Speaker 2: sounded a warning to this Six Nations rugby rifles.

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Speaker 9: Spencer looking to go down the short side, releases free

629
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Speaker 9: that Freeman just bouncing off to defend this and sheer

630
00:34:29,667 --> 00:34:33,067
Speaker 9: power and determination takes it in to the score.

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Speaker 8: That is what Charlie.

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Speaker 9: Freeman could do. There shall be chavitess for England to come.

633
00:34:42,947 --> 00:34:47,707
Speaker 9: But for now England have beat Wales by forty eight

634
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Speaker 9: point seven.

635
00:34:48,627 --> 00:34:51,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty eight seven bonus point thumping of Wales at

636
00:34:51,147 --> 00:34:53,827
Speaker 2: twicken And from England, let's bring in twenty twenty two

637
00:34:53,907 --> 00:34:56,387
Speaker 2: thousand and three Rugby World Cup winning with England, British

638
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Speaker 2: and Irish lines represented A hugely respected rugby analyst Will Greenwood,

639
00:35:01,107 --> 00:35:04,947
Speaker 2: will England's Six Nations campaign off to a flyer forty

640
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Speaker 2: eight to seven. When how did they look?

641
00:35:08,067 --> 00:35:08,867
Speaker 4: How do they look at it?

642
00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:11,067
Speaker 10: It's been a long time when we start to take

643
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Speaker 10: wins for granted. It's a bit like you guys, when

644
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Speaker 10: you play a home you sort.

645
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Speaker 8: Of think you expect to win.

646
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Speaker 10: We've had a few years when in the autumn we

647
00:35:19,947 --> 00:35:22,467
Speaker 10: get turned over by too many. We sort of finished

648
00:35:22,507 --> 00:35:25,027
Speaker 10: fourth and third a couple of times in the sixth Nations,

649
00:35:25,387 --> 00:35:29,227
Speaker 10: but suddenly stricken them starts to look like a fortress again.

650
00:35:29,267 --> 00:35:30,627
Speaker 8: I think they've gone a year and a half. I'm

651
00:35:30,627 --> 00:35:32,267
Speaker 8: beaten there. Now we expect to win.

652
00:35:32,947 --> 00:35:36,907
Speaker 10: So you can sometimes lose a bit of the joy

653
00:35:36,947 --> 00:35:39,587
Speaker 10: when you put six or seven tries past the old

654
00:35:39,667 --> 00:35:44,707
Speaker 10: enemy in Wales, but the players themselves will be relatively pleased.

655
00:35:44,707 --> 00:35:48,147
Speaker 10: They left two or three tries out there frustratingly. But

656
00:35:49,347 --> 00:35:52,587
Speaker 10: as an opening gambit start of a tournament five points

657
00:35:52,587 --> 00:35:54,987
Speaker 10: in the bag Scotland get turned.

658
00:35:54,707 --> 00:35:55,747
Speaker 8: Over by Italy.

659
00:35:56,547 --> 00:35:58,787
Speaker 10: We were all eyes for us to look set like

660
00:35:58,987 --> 00:36:02,227
Speaker 10: Paris Final weekend and we hope to be there for

661
00:36:02,267 --> 00:36:06,027
Speaker 10: a Grand Slam deciders. So things are good in the

662
00:36:06,067 --> 00:36:08,667
Speaker 10: England and can when you're starting to talk about the

663
00:36:08,827 --> 00:36:11,387
Speaker 10: tries you could have had on top of the bucket

664
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Speaker 10: load of tries you did have.

665
00:36:12,867 --> 00:36:15,587
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, Frances look good the other day, didn't they,

666
00:36:15,627 --> 00:36:17,627
Speaker 2: especially in the first half against Aralin. What was your

667
00:36:17,707 --> 00:36:18,587
Speaker 2: what was your evaluation?

668
00:36:19,107 --> 00:36:19,547
Speaker 8: Brilliant?

669
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Speaker 4: Brilliant.

670
00:36:20,187 --> 00:36:23,387
Speaker 10: Look, I'm a bit of a Francophar really in terms

671
00:36:23,427 --> 00:36:26,147
Speaker 10: of the way they play their rugby talking to some

672
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:30,507
Speaker 10: young lads today at Twickenham, just how they they vake

673
00:36:30,587 --> 00:36:33,987
Speaker 10: when they were as ball carriers, they sort of change direction,

674
00:36:34,227 --> 00:36:37,147
Speaker 10: just leave the ball in the air. They don't pass

675
00:36:37,227 --> 00:36:40,307
Speaker 10: to anyone, they just leave the ball in space. And

676
00:36:40,347 --> 00:36:42,987
Speaker 10: so when they're confident, it means when you support running

677
00:36:42,987 --> 00:36:45,467
Speaker 10: in behind, you know you don't need to worry about

678
00:36:45,467 --> 00:36:47,347
Speaker 10: what pace the ball is going to come at you,

679
00:36:47,467 --> 00:36:51,067
Speaker 10: what angle to pick you just trailing behind. And when

680
00:36:51,107 --> 00:36:54,987
Speaker 10: it was it was a masterclass in where the rugby.

681
00:36:55,187 --> 00:36:57,507
Speaker 10: I seem to remember there was a Try Nations game

682
00:36:57,547 --> 00:37:00,827
Speaker 10: once where you guys put South Africa to the sword

683
00:37:00,867 --> 00:37:01,227
Speaker 10: in an.

684
00:37:01,147 --> 00:37:02,907
Speaker 8: Absolute swimming pool and it was.

685
00:37:02,867 --> 00:37:06,827
Speaker 10: A It reminded me of that occasion where it was

686
00:37:07,787 --> 00:37:11,827
Speaker 10: error free, powerful, dynamic and yet when the opportunity to

687
00:37:11,827 --> 00:37:16,147
Speaker 10: play came, they still could identify, sit back and go right, Okay,

688
00:37:16,187 --> 00:37:17,267
Speaker 10: we've gone through the guts.

689
00:37:17,787 --> 00:37:19,747
Speaker 8: Now the space is there, go finish them off.

690
00:37:19,787 --> 00:37:24,547
Speaker 10: They look frighteningly good at the moment, and I think

691
00:37:24,627 --> 00:37:28,947
Speaker 10: with that just gives them, because they have home advantage

692
00:37:29,467 --> 00:37:31,947
Speaker 10: against England, I think it gives them the sort of

693
00:37:32,107 --> 00:37:34,387
Speaker 10: marginal tag of favorites to win this.

694
00:37:35,027 --> 00:37:37,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a fascinating opening week in We can't

695
00:37:37,507 --> 00:37:39,587
Speaker 2: wait for it to play out. We've been talking down

696
00:37:39,627 --> 00:37:41,827
Speaker 2: here about the law twigs to Super Rugby, the intent

697
00:37:41,947 --> 00:37:43,707
Speaker 2: of speeding up the game. Not sure if you've seen

698
00:37:44,187 --> 00:37:46,227
Speaker 2: seen the changes. What's your overall reaction and what do

699
00:37:46,267 --> 00:37:48,027
Speaker 2: you think it'll mean for the players who go from

700
00:37:48,067 --> 00:37:50,947
Speaker 2: Super rugby to tea scrugby with those rules don't apply.

701
00:37:52,267 --> 00:37:55,827
Speaker 10: Yes, you know, speed, safety, space, the sort of the

702
00:37:55,907 --> 00:37:59,547
Speaker 10: keywords that in the referees and the lawmakers vote cover.

703
00:37:59,587 --> 00:38:01,187
Speaker 10: I think there are three great words to have on

704
00:38:01,227 --> 00:38:05,187
Speaker 10: a rugby field. So anything that can contribute to that. No, kid,

705
00:38:05,267 --> 00:38:07,907
Speaker 10: these lads are bright and now they're not. They don't

706
00:38:07,947 --> 00:38:09,667
Speaker 10: have to go to work and be a plumber one

707
00:38:09,747 --> 00:38:11,907
Speaker 10: day and then think about the law changes. This is

708
00:38:11,947 --> 00:38:14,707
Speaker 10: their job, their professions, so they'll be able to step

709
00:38:14,747 --> 00:38:17,107
Speaker 10: onto the field, understand what the ramifications are, what do

710
00:38:17,107 --> 00:38:20,307
Speaker 10: you do today, and then switch across and make it

711
00:38:20,387 --> 00:38:23,587
Speaker 10: relatively simple. I think sometimes we worry a little bit

712
00:38:23,627 --> 00:38:23,947
Speaker 10: too much.

713
00:38:24,027 --> 00:38:25,467
Speaker 8: It's a it's a bit.

714
00:38:25,387 --> 00:38:27,627
Speaker 10: Like all the fans have been moaning that we've got

715
00:38:27,707 --> 00:38:31,427
Speaker 10: adverts during the game when there's downtime, Zobie.

716
00:38:31,467 --> 00:38:33,347
Speaker 8: I don't know if you've seen that argument, and it's.

717
00:38:33,147 --> 00:38:36,187
Speaker 10: Like, honestly, sometimes people pick a fight with their own shadow.

718
00:38:36,747 --> 00:38:38,387
Speaker 8: It's it's gone, no impacts you.

719
00:38:38,587 --> 00:38:42,827
Speaker 10: You moan for years that Rugby has gone to satellite TV,

720
00:38:43,107 --> 00:38:45,427
Speaker 10: so this keeps Rugby on terrestrial TV.

721
00:38:45,427 --> 00:38:47,107
Speaker 8: And they start winging and there's an advert.

722
00:38:47,187 --> 00:38:50,547
Speaker 10: It's like, seriously, guys, you like those two muppets from

723
00:38:50,547 --> 00:38:52,707
Speaker 10: the Muppet Show Stadler and Waldorf.

724
00:38:53,067 --> 00:38:53,787
Speaker 8: Let it go.

725
00:38:55,187 --> 00:38:56,987
Speaker 2: Well, I love churning to your mite. I know it's

726
00:38:57,027 --> 00:38:58,867
Speaker 2: late in the evening there. Thanks for joining us across

727
00:38:58,867 --> 00:39:00,747
Speaker 2: New Zealand. We'll catch up again soon.

728
00:39:01,347 --> 00:39:03,867
Speaker 8: I hope. So Boss, take it easy, easy.

729
00:39:03,707 --> 00:39:08,707
Speaker 2: Too, will drive safely Hill Greenwood out of England. They've

730
00:39:08,907 --> 00:39:13,307
Speaker 2: beaten the Welsh, the hapless Welsh forty eight to seven

731
00:39:13,787 --> 00:39:18,627
Speaker 2: Italy eighteen Scotland fifteen a boil over earlier on this

732
00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:22,107
Speaker 2: morning in Rome, and then that game was was it

733
00:39:22,147 --> 00:39:26,347
Speaker 2: Friday morning out time? France thirty six, Island fourteen twenty

734
00:39:26,427 --> 00:39:28,907
Speaker 2: nine Miero at one stage France looking very very good.

735
00:39:28,987 --> 00:39:31,827
Speaker 2: So that's round one of the six nations in the book.

736
00:39:31,867 --> 00:39:34,827
Speaker 2: Next weekend for round two it's Ireland at home to

737
00:39:35,067 --> 00:39:39,827
Speaker 2: Italy and Dublin. Scotland welcome England to Murrayfield and then

738
00:39:39,947 --> 00:39:43,587
Speaker 2: Wales have the rather unenviable task of trying to turn

739
00:39:43,627 --> 00:39:47,107
Speaker 2: around a forty eight points to seven drubbing by welcoming

740
00:39:47,147 --> 00:39:50,987
Speaker 2: the French to Principality Stadium in Cardiff. They just can't

741
00:39:50,987 --> 00:39:53,387
Speaker 2: buy a truck, can they? The Welsh at the moment

742
00:39:53,507 --> 00:39:54,827
Speaker 2: ate away from one, News Talks B.

743
00:39:56,427 --> 00:39:59,067
Speaker 1: The Scoop from the track Field and the Court on

744
00:39:59,187 --> 00:40:03,187
Speaker 1: your Home of Lord the weekends for it with Jason Vine, News.

745
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:06,667
Speaker 2: TALKSB, News Talks five to one. Couple of text mop

746
00:40:06,747 --> 00:40:09,907
Speaker 2: up before we head to the news. Ireland put up

747
00:40:09,907 --> 00:40:11,987
Speaker 2: a lot of box kicks and France got possession almost

748
00:40:11,987 --> 00:40:14,547
Speaker 2: every time. France hardly used the box kick. They were

749
00:40:14,587 --> 00:40:17,467
Speaker 2: kicking it long. The box is so ineffective. I just

750
00:40:17,507 --> 00:40:20,107
Speaker 2: don't know why teams persist with it, says this text.

751
00:40:20,227 --> 00:40:21,907
Speaker 2: No one here. I love the idea of tweaking the

752
00:40:21,947 --> 00:40:23,907
Speaker 2: game and making it better for the fans. My mates

753
00:40:23,907 --> 00:40:26,907
Speaker 2: and I have the three day pass for Super weekend

754
00:40:26,947 --> 00:40:29,067
Speaker 2: in christ It's going to be an exciting weekend for

755
00:40:29,107 --> 00:40:32,067
Speaker 2: the game of rugby, a lot less confusing at the game,

756
00:40:32,507 --> 00:40:35,747
Speaker 2: not knowing the reason for the tmo's decisions. Yeah, totally

757
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:39,427
Speaker 2: totally agree with that. Thank you for all your calls

758
00:40:39,427 --> 00:40:42,787
Speaker 2: and correspondence around the rules. We'll get you inside our

759
00:40:42,827 --> 00:40:46,347
Speaker 2: remaining three Super Rugby franchises based here in New Zealand.

760
00:40:46,787 --> 00:40:50,227
Speaker 2: Yesterday we spoke with the Blues in the form of

761
00:40:50,307 --> 00:40:54,147
Speaker 2: Jason O'Halleran, their assistant coach, Mwana Pacifica head coach Tana Umanga,

762
00:40:54,227 --> 00:40:58,547
Speaker 2: and Rob Penny, head coach of the defending champion Crusaders.

763
00:40:58,627 --> 00:41:02,947
Speaker 2: After one. John o' gibbs, new head coach of the Chiefs.

764
00:41:03,307 --> 00:41:06,747
Speaker 2: Can they can they finally win one of these things?

765
00:41:07,467 --> 00:41:11,627
Speaker 2: Three straight Grand finals, three straight Grand final defeats. I

766
00:41:11,667 --> 00:41:14,227
Speaker 2: see at the tab they are again favorite to win it.

767
00:41:14,987 --> 00:41:18,507
Speaker 2: What's it going to take to go from almost to

768
00:41:18,547 --> 00:41:21,947
Speaker 2: getting across the line? John o Gibbs after one o'clock

769
00:41:22,027 --> 00:41:25,187
Speaker 2: Clark laid law out of the Hurricanes as well, and

770
00:41:25,187 --> 00:41:27,227
Speaker 2: we'll also get you down south to the Highlanders where

771
00:41:27,267 --> 00:41:29,867
Speaker 2: assistant coach of the Highlanders Clark Diermody is with us.

772
00:41:29,987 --> 00:41:32,467
Speaker 2: How are they handling the whole Jamie Joseph situation.

773
00:41:34,307 --> 00:41:37,187
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

774
00:41:37,587 --> 00:41:38,747
Speaker 1: and after fields.

775
00:41:39,267 --> 00:41:40,267
Speaker 4: It's all on win.

776
00:41:40,227 --> 00:41:43,427
Speaker 1: James Ford with Jason Vane on your home of.

777
00:41:43,427 --> 00:41:45,627
Speaker 8: Sport US Talk.

778
00:41:46,707 --> 00:41:48,707
Speaker 2: Hi there one o seven. This is weekend's fort on

779
00:41:48,747 --> 00:41:51,187
Speaker 2: News Talk, said b. Jason Fine and Annie McDonald with

780
00:41:51,227 --> 00:41:55,827
Speaker 2: you till three. Black Caps head coach Rob Alter with

781
00:41:55,907 --> 00:41:58,747
Speaker 2: us after two o'clock six thirty tonight New Zealand's first

782
00:41:58,747 --> 00:42:01,627
Speaker 2: game in the Teach twenty Cricket World Cup against Afghanistan.

783
00:42:02,587 --> 00:42:05,347
Speaker 2: James mccony this hour as well as usual on a Sunday,

784
00:42:05,347 --> 00:42:08,427
Speaker 2: but let's continue our hatchups with the New Zealand based

785
00:42:08,547 --> 00:42:12,427
Speaker 2: Super Rugby franchises and to the Chiefs Round robin winners

786
00:42:12,507 --> 00:42:15,187
Speaker 2: last year. They lost to the Blues in their first

787
00:42:15,187 --> 00:42:17,867
Speaker 2: finals match, but then turned around to beat the Brumbies

788
00:42:17,907 --> 00:42:20,187
Speaker 2: a week later in the Semis and the nag.

789
00:42:20,027 --> 00:42:22,907
Speaker 8: Lot Kicks it out. She's all over red Rover.

790
00:42:23,027 --> 00:42:25,787
Speaker 1: Here in Hamilton, the Chiefs have come back from.

791
00:42:25,587 --> 00:42:29,227
Speaker 11: A disutboarding display against the Blues last week and they've

792
00:42:29,267 --> 00:42:31,187
Speaker 11: run out the winner's thirty seven.

793
00:42:31,027 --> 00:42:33,747
Speaker 2: Seventh then down to Christchurch where they went on to

794
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:36,707
Speaker 2: lose to the Crusaders in the Grand Final. They have

795
00:42:36,907 --> 00:42:39,747
Speaker 2: a new head coach this year, John o'gibbs who joins us.

796
00:42:39,787 --> 00:42:42,667
Speaker 2: Now maybe we can start there. How are you finding

797
00:42:42,827 --> 00:42:44,907
Speaker 2: and enjoying the head coaching role.

798
00:42:46,267 --> 00:42:52,507
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been it's been intense, but really enjoying the challenge.

799
00:42:52,627 --> 00:42:58,027
Speaker 7: And you know, since December, the group, the staff been

800
00:42:58,027 --> 00:42:59,667
Speaker 7: a real pleasure to work alongside.

801
00:42:59,867 --> 00:43:02,547
Speaker 2: You say intense. So what have been the main changes

802
00:43:02,587 --> 00:43:06,107
Speaker 2: you've noticed going from being an assistant coach to being

803
00:43:06,107 --> 00:43:06,747
Speaker 2: the head coach.

804
00:43:08,787 --> 00:43:14,187
Speaker 7: I think it's just the coordination, the communication, you know,

805
00:43:14,267 --> 00:43:19,107
Speaker 7: all the sort all the things that make up you know,

806
00:43:19,587 --> 00:43:25,347
Speaker 7: fifty five players, you know, weekly schedule and twenty odd

807
00:43:25,387 --> 00:43:28,947
Speaker 7: staff and just making sure there's clear comms and you

808
00:43:28,987 --> 00:43:32,547
Speaker 7: know the coordination of timings and meetings and all sorts

809
00:43:32,547 --> 00:43:34,547
Speaker 7: of things like that. You know, as quite a lot

810
00:43:34,667 --> 00:43:40,267
Speaker 7: goes into just trying to get eighty minutes of the

811
00:43:40,267 --> 00:43:42,387
Speaker 7: game done every week, a.

812
00:43:42,347 --> 00:43:44,067
Speaker 2: Lot more in your diary. By the sounds of it,

813
00:43:44,107 --> 00:43:46,347
Speaker 2: you beat you beat the Hurricanes twenty nine, Zeri and

814
00:43:46,347 --> 00:43:49,907
Speaker 2: Potty do we Yesterday? We did see though former Wallaby's

815
00:43:49,947 --> 00:43:52,667
Speaker 2: midfield I like eye of kid de limping off with

816
00:43:52,747 --> 00:43:55,747
Speaker 2: what looked to be a reasonably serious knee injury. Have

817
00:43:55,787 --> 00:43:57,547
Speaker 2: you got any update on that?

818
00:44:00,027 --> 00:44:04,387
Speaker 7: Not as yet, not right now. We were just trying

819
00:44:04,427 --> 00:44:09,627
Speaker 7: to organize the appropriate skins. We flew straight back after

820
00:44:09,667 --> 00:44:13,667
Speaker 7: the game last night and so just Sunday morning here

821
00:44:13,707 --> 00:44:18,027
Speaker 7: trying to get things organized. So yeah, it looks significant.

822
00:44:18,427 --> 00:44:20,587
Speaker 7: He was in a bit of discomfort, that's for sure.

823
00:44:22,067 --> 00:44:26,187
Speaker 7: Just fingers crossed after today and hopefully get some some

824
00:44:26,267 --> 00:44:27,347
Speaker 7: clarity of the situation.

825
00:44:27,507 --> 00:44:29,987
Speaker 2: Of course he's there, well, I guess to fill the

826
00:44:30,027 --> 00:44:32,867
Speaker 2: gap for left bland on Lena Brown who's playing in

827
00:44:32,947 --> 00:44:36,187
Speaker 2: Japan at the moment. So does it leave you but

828
00:44:36,307 --> 00:44:39,067
Speaker 2: short and midfield if he doesn't come through or are

829
00:44:39,107 --> 00:44:41,027
Speaker 2: you reasonably confident you've got the cover there?

830
00:44:43,227 --> 00:44:45,867
Speaker 7: I think you have to, you know, tip your hat

831
00:44:45,947 --> 00:44:49,107
Speaker 7: to New Zealand who made a bit of a change

832
00:44:49,107 --> 00:44:52,267
Speaker 7: and organized these wider training group contracts this year. The

833
00:44:52,347 --> 00:44:57,347
Speaker 7: twelve players who are full time with the squad, so

834
00:44:59,027 --> 00:45:01,427
Speaker 7: we've seen the real value in our wider training group

835
00:45:02,147 --> 00:45:07,987
Speaker 7: members their work in December and then you know how

836
00:45:08,027 --> 00:45:10,947
Speaker 7: they fitted in and we saw some of that come

837
00:45:11,027 --> 00:45:13,267
Speaker 7: through in the drew A game and yesterday as well.

838
00:45:13,347 --> 00:45:15,707
Speaker 7: So we're a couple of guys from our wider training

839
00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:19,467
Speaker 7: group who really put their hand up. So I think

840
00:45:19,467 --> 00:45:22,627
Speaker 7: it's been really pleasing that change in the in the

841
00:45:22,667 --> 00:45:28,467
Speaker 7: contracting system, and the point of that is to build

842
00:45:28,507 --> 00:45:31,427
Speaker 7: depths and cohesion from having going there the whole time,

843
00:45:31,547 --> 00:45:36,227
Speaker 7: rather than calling them in and out from from various situations.

844
00:45:35,667 --> 00:45:37,667
Speaker 2: And overall times. Kind of how pleased were you with

845
00:45:37,707 --> 00:45:40,267
Speaker 2: what you saw from your team yesterday a week out

846
00:45:40,267 --> 00:45:44,627
Speaker 2: from the start of the season proper, I think.

847
00:45:44,427 --> 00:45:46,987
Speaker 7: The whole week post Drew Drew it was our first

848
00:45:47,027 --> 00:45:50,827
Speaker 7: shit out, and I think the whole week it was

849
00:45:50,867 --> 00:45:53,867
Speaker 7: a really important step forward for us. We trained better,

850
00:45:54,227 --> 00:45:57,307
Speaker 7: we were a bit a bit more focused, we integrated

851
00:45:57,347 --> 00:46:01,187
Speaker 7: more players, international players back in, so I think the

852
00:46:01,187 --> 00:46:05,147
Speaker 7: whole week sort of flowed pretty well. The game itself,

853
00:46:05,587 --> 00:46:08,747
Speaker 7: you're running through combinations over the course of eighty minutes,

854
00:46:08,787 --> 00:46:13,787
Speaker 7: so cohesion and precision sort of are difficult. But I

855
00:46:13,827 --> 00:46:18,627
Speaker 7: think overall, the attitude some parts that were a good

856
00:46:18,667 --> 00:46:22,587
Speaker 7: step up from Dura. But you know, obviously there's some

857
00:46:22,707 --> 00:46:26,667
Speaker 7: aspects that need a bit of attention, and you can't

858
00:46:26,947 --> 00:46:30,227
Speaker 7: focus on everything, so there are some stuff that when

859
00:46:30,267 --> 00:46:33,027
Speaker 7: he was going to be a bit like but we've

860
00:46:33,027 --> 00:46:36,267
Speaker 7: got some clear direction now. I added two preseason games.

861
00:46:36,667 --> 00:46:40,827
Speaker 2: One of your acquisitions has been Kiren Tomoyfilau from Muana Pacifica.

862
00:46:41,027 --> 00:46:44,067
Speaker 2: I see he started on the wing yesterday. He at

863
00:46:44,107 --> 00:46:47,427
Speaker 2: all likely to play at fullback sometimes you've lost Shawn

864
00:46:47,467 --> 00:46:50,587
Speaker 2: Stevenson obviously from that position. Would Kiren be an option

865
00:46:50,707 --> 00:46:51,507
Speaker 2: for you at fullback?

866
00:46:53,187 --> 00:46:56,507
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I think he's he's He's had training time

867
00:46:57,067 --> 00:47:02,387
Speaker 7: in that position, absolutely, And like I said when we

868
00:47:02,907 --> 00:47:05,267
Speaker 7: announced our squad right at the start, I think one

869
00:47:05,307 --> 00:47:09,387
Speaker 7: of the really pleasing hearts is our utility factor in

870
00:47:09,467 --> 00:47:11,627
Speaker 7: our back line. So we have a number of players

871
00:47:11,627 --> 00:47:15,747
Speaker 7: who can play a number of positions. So you know

872
00:47:15,787 --> 00:47:19,587
Speaker 7: that that helps later on down the line, and squad

873
00:47:20,107 --> 00:47:25,307
Speaker 7: health has a massive impact. But yeah, there's a lot

874
00:47:25,347 --> 00:47:29,707
Speaker 7: of competition for the back three, and Kyen's right in

875
00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:31,947
Speaker 7: the middle of that. But also we saw over the

876
00:47:32,027 --> 00:47:35,307
Speaker 7: last couple of weeks a few other guys as well

877
00:47:35,387 --> 00:47:37,467
Speaker 7: have put a bit of a bit of heat on

878
00:47:37,627 --> 00:47:42,747
Speaker 7: put their hand up, and yeah, that competition is pretty important.

879
00:47:42,827 --> 00:47:44,227
Speaker 7: It's bloody good for us.

880
00:47:44,467 --> 00:47:46,867
Speaker 2: Has Damien McKenzie had any preseason minutes for you?

881
00:47:49,067 --> 00:47:50,227
Speaker 7: No, he has not.

882
00:47:50,907 --> 00:47:52,387
Speaker 2: Will he be available for a round one?

883
00:47:54,907 --> 00:47:55,587
Speaker 7: Yes he will be.

884
00:47:56,067 --> 00:47:56,307
Speaker 4: Yep.

885
00:47:57,227 --> 00:47:59,947
Speaker 7: Like we saw yesterday the Hurricanes too, they had a

886
00:48:00,027 --> 00:48:04,867
Speaker 7: number of all blacks not playing that we're there. So Damien,

887
00:48:04,987 --> 00:48:08,987
Speaker 7: Quinn Lee, Roy Simon Parker as well were unavailable for

888
00:48:09,787 --> 00:48:10,627
Speaker 7: the Hurricanes game.

889
00:48:11,147 --> 00:48:13,387
Speaker 2: So might Damien be an option at fifteen? He played

890
00:48:13,387 --> 00:48:15,147
Speaker 2: a bit there last year? You got Josh Jacob mcause

891
00:48:15,227 --> 00:48:18,467
Speaker 2: very capable first five. I don't ask I'm not asking

892
00:48:18,507 --> 00:48:21,667
Speaker 2: you to reveal your your strategies necessarily, Johnno, but could

893
00:48:21,667 --> 00:48:24,267
Speaker 2: we see Damien at fifteen at stages this season?

894
00:48:25,707 --> 00:48:28,827
Speaker 7: At stages if that's what the team needs that week. Yeah,

895
00:48:29,107 --> 00:48:33,307
Speaker 7: He's more than comfortable playing back there. That was part

896
00:48:33,347 --> 00:48:36,987
Speaker 7: of the early part of the season last year we saw.

897
00:48:37,587 --> 00:48:41,347
Speaker 7: We saw Josh at ten and Damien playing more at fifteen.

898
00:48:42,547 --> 00:48:44,987
Speaker 7: Like I say, there's a number of backs that can

899
00:48:45,747 --> 00:48:48,987
Speaker 7: play different positions, Damien being one of them. So it's

900
00:48:49,107 --> 00:48:54,587
Speaker 7: just about the right combination each week, and like we said,

901
00:48:54,587 --> 00:48:57,427
Speaker 7: we've got a heap of competition for places, so that

902
00:48:58,107 --> 00:49:01,307
Speaker 7: competition brings out the best in the competitors.

903
00:49:01,867 --> 00:49:04,107
Speaker 2: No easy games and super rugby of course, but your

904
00:49:04,107 --> 00:49:07,427
Speaker 2: first three blues away Highland is away Crusaders at home.

905
00:49:07,467 --> 00:49:09,507
Speaker 2: There's no soft landing for you as a as a

906
00:49:09,547 --> 00:49:12,307
Speaker 2: head coach. Do you have to manage your side early

907
00:49:12,387 --> 00:49:15,107
Speaker 2: with three New Zealand Derbies to start the season because

908
00:49:15,107 --> 00:49:17,427
Speaker 2: we know how physically demanding they can be.

909
00:49:20,147 --> 00:49:22,867
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, I think it's the nature of the beast,

910
00:49:22,907 --> 00:49:27,267
Speaker 7: isn't it. Those three games, you know? And Milana is

911
00:49:27,267 --> 00:49:30,427
Speaker 7: our fourth game before our buy so our opening blockers

912
00:49:30,667 --> 00:49:33,787
Speaker 7: is definitely challenging. But it's the same for everyone. And

913
00:49:34,627 --> 00:49:38,747
Speaker 7: like I said, with the wider training group, the contracting model,

914
00:49:39,347 --> 00:49:44,427
Speaker 7: you know, depth competition for places, you know, I think

915
00:49:44,467 --> 00:49:49,387
Speaker 7: it's it's important that we foster that now environment everyone

916
00:49:50,267 --> 00:49:54,267
Speaker 7: champion at the bit to play and certainly those first

917
00:49:54,347 --> 00:49:58,467
Speaker 7: four games, but also the whole season you know, we'll

918
00:49:58,507 --> 00:49:59,667
Speaker 7: need we'll need everyone.

919
00:49:59,747 --> 00:50:03,227
Speaker 2: Ready, you made three straight finals without being able to

920
00:50:03,227 --> 00:50:05,947
Speaker 2: get over the line and win one. Is that at

921
00:50:05,947 --> 00:50:08,867
Speaker 2: all playing on the minds of anybody in the Chiefs organization.

922
00:50:12,267 --> 00:50:17,667
Speaker 7: Look, I think you you have to be Yeah, you

923
00:50:17,667 --> 00:50:20,667
Speaker 7: wouldn't be human if you didn't acknowledge it. But that's

924
00:50:20,707 --> 00:50:22,907
Speaker 7: okay to acknowledge it. It's just more important that you

925
00:50:22,947 --> 00:50:27,347
Speaker 7: don't dwell on it, you learn from it, and you

926
00:50:27,467 --> 00:50:32,067
Speaker 7: prepare for what's in front of you. Really, so it's

927
00:50:32,067 --> 00:50:35,667
Speaker 7: it's it's a human emotion. Sometimes your mind might drift,

928
00:50:35,707 --> 00:50:39,467
Speaker 7: but really for us, it's it's not dwelling on it.

929
00:50:39,467 --> 00:50:40,147
Speaker 8: It's just.

930
00:50:42,027 --> 00:50:45,547
Speaker 7: Preparing and and focusing on what's right in front of us.

931
00:50:45,787 --> 00:50:49,347
Speaker 7: And I think that's you know, that's the message for

932
00:50:49,387 --> 00:50:53,107
Speaker 7: this week, the Blues at Etan Park. That's a big

933
00:50:53,227 --> 00:50:55,867
Speaker 7: enough challenge. Our mind doesn't need to drift too far

934
00:50:55,907 --> 00:50:59,387
Speaker 7: away from that challenge and what's right in front of us.

935
00:50:59,427 --> 00:51:03,747
Speaker 7: And if anything that we saw from from this week,

936
00:51:05,067 --> 00:51:09,347
Speaker 7: you know, the week's prep is crucial, so you know,

937
00:51:09,427 --> 00:51:12,787
Speaker 7: that's where our focus will be, that's where our energy

938
00:51:12,827 --> 00:51:17,827
Speaker 7: needs to be put. So yeah, we just prepare and

939
00:51:18,467 --> 00:51:20,347
Speaker 7: get ready for this round one.

940
00:51:20,707 --> 00:51:22,987
Speaker 2: All the best as you put your final touches on

941
00:51:23,027 --> 00:51:25,907
Speaker 2: your preparation. John, I appreciate you chatting to us this afternoon.

942
00:51:25,907 --> 00:51:27,427
Speaker 2: Look forward to catching up across the season.

943
00:51:28,547 --> 00:51:31,107
Speaker 7: Great, thank you jef no, thank you, thank you.

944
00:51:31,587 --> 00:51:36,347
Speaker 2: John Gibbs, their new head coach of the Chiefs very understated,

945
00:51:36,707 --> 00:51:41,427
Speaker 2: as his predecessor Clayton McMillan was just focusing game to game,

946
00:51:41,467 --> 00:51:44,667
Speaker 2: big one to start this coming Saturday, Eden Park Blues

947
00:51:44,787 --> 00:51:47,067
Speaker 2: Chiefs five past seven. Then the Chiefs are away at

948
00:51:47,067 --> 00:51:51,187
Speaker 2: the Islanders and at home to the Crusaders. What are

949
00:51:51,227 --> 00:51:54,227
Speaker 2: we one seventeen? Let's get you to the Hurricanes fourth

950
00:51:54,427 --> 00:51:58,147
Speaker 2: last season before losing to the Brumbies in the qualifying final.

951
00:51:58,507 --> 00:52:01,307
Speaker 2: They had their moments as per usual, including a memorial

952
00:52:01,387 --> 00:52:05,707
Speaker 2: win over the Chiefs and round robin full time up

953
00:52:05,747 --> 00:52:07,747
Speaker 2: boy in the Capitol.

954
00:52:08,827 --> 00:52:14,667
Speaker 12: That table toppers toppled twenty six unanswered points in the

955
00:52:14,747 --> 00:52:19,627
Speaker 12: second half by the Hurricanes, courtesy mainly of Balen Sullivan

956
00:52:20,547 --> 00:52:25,227
Speaker 12: are four try finanza for him in the second half

957
00:52:25,427 --> 00:52:30,627
Speaker 12: full time Hurricanes thirty five, Chiefs seventeen.

958
00:52:30,867 --> 00:52:32,587
Speaker 2: So the Hurricanes have to wait for a bit before

959
00:52:32,587 --> 00:52:34,987
Speaker 2: they get going. They have the first round by then

960
00:52:35,067 --> 00:52:39,067
Speaker 2: host Maana pacifica Friday the twentieth of February. Then they're

961
00:52:39,067 --> 00:52:41,747
Speaker 2: away against the Drawer and the Waratars and at home

962
00:52:42,107 --> 00:52:45,627
Speaker 2: to the Force. Hurricanes head coach Is Clark Laidlaw who

963
00:52:45,667 --> 00:52:48,507
Speaker 2: joins us now by in the first round. Clark, is

964
00:52:48,507 --> 00:52:51,227
Speaker 2: that a good thing, a bad thing, or neither of

965
00:52:51,267 --> 00:52:52,027
Speaker 2: those things?

966
00:52:52,587 --> 00:52:54,147
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, not a choice about it. So we just

967
00:52:54,547 --> 00:52:58,387
Speaker 13: we've got to accept that, I guess I think after

968
00:52:58,667 --> 00:53:01,667
Speaker 13: you know, we've had five weeks since Christmas, back end,

969
00:53:01,707 --> 00:53:07,987
Speaker 13: two preseason games, you know, Reinagreeting. It's been a hectic

970
00:53:08,107 --> 00:53:11,227
Speaker 13: five weeks. So I think the plant side is we

971
00:53:11,227 --> 00:53:13,147
Speaker 13: can take a few breath this week and sort of

972
00:53:13,187 --> 00:53:16,987
Speaker 13: a dload week physically and mentally, and we've got a

973
00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:19,587
Speaker 13: camp up in Parmi to spend some time together up

974
00:53:19,627 --> 00:53:23,387
Speaker 13: there and take a breath as we gather with spots

975
00:53:23,387 --> 00:53:24,507
Speaker 13: and then get ready for Milana.

976
00:53:24,907 --> 00:53:27,467
Speaker 2: I look at the schedule for you, the games against

977
00:53:27,467 --> 00:53:29,827
Speaker 2: the other New Zealand sides, and many respects are back

978
00:53:29,907 --> 00:53:33,547
Speaker 2: louded your last five of the season, Crusider's Molana, Blues,

979
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:37,707
Speaker 2: Highlanders and Crusiders again to end the regular season. Will

980
00:53:37,707 --> 00:53:39,507
Speaker 2: that need a bit of forward planet.

981
00:53:40,507 --> 00:53:42,907
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know, one thing

982
00:53:42,907 --> 00:53:44,507
Speaker 13: I've learned over the last couple of years is probably

983
00:53:44,507 --> 00:53:47,307
Speaker 13: week to week to make sure you try and do

984
00:53:47,347 --> 00:53:47,787
Speaker 13: as well.

985
00:53:47,667 --> 00:53:48,147
Speaker 7: As you can.

986
00:53:48,307 --> 00:53:51,947
Speaker 13: But yeah, certainly After that that second by we run

987
00:53:51,947 --> 00:53:55,227
Speaker 13: into a big block of games where only to be

988
00:53:55,707 --> 00:54:00,107
Speaker 13: pretty thoughtful around how we use the squad, you know,

989
00:54:00,147 --> 00:54:02,987
Speaker 13: with two sick of day turnarounds in the Crusader games twice,

990
00:54:03,027 --> 00:54:07,347
Speaker 13: which is anomally I guess draw. But we do have

991
00:54:07,387 --> 00:54:10,507
Speaker 13: an eight day turn around into the second Milana games.

992
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:13,507
Speaker 13: So I think there's an opportunity there for maybe like

993
00:54:13,547 --> 00:54:15,227
Speaker 13: a mini buy where we try and give the men,

994
00:54:15,587 --> 00:54:16,987
Speaker 13: you know, a few extra days off to.

995
00:54:18,627 --> 00:54:19,107
Speaker 7: Recharge.

996
00:54:19,107 --> 00:54:22,267
Speaker 13: As you say, into that last block of games before playoffs, you.

997
00:54:22,227 --> 00:54:24,307
Speaker 2: Went down twenty nine nil to the Chief shast Today

998
00:54:24,347 --> 00:54:27,827
Speaker 2: obviously it's any price sizing, but any concerns coming out

999
00:54:27,827 --> 00:54:28,667
Speaker 2: of the game yesterday for.

1000
00:54:28,747 --> 00:54:32,267
Speaker 13: You, oh, I think if we look at the two

1001
00:54:32,267 --> 00:54:34,867
Speaker 13: weeks mother than just the one game, where we're pretty

1002
00:54:34,907 --> 00:54:36,747
Speaker 13: sort of happy where we're at. You know, all of

1003
00:54:36,787 --> 00:54:39,667
Speaker 13: the boys I've had rugby for the most part, parking,

1004
00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:43,067
Speaker 13: a couple of all backs, no serious injuries over the

1005
00:54:43,067 --> 00:54:45,827
Speaker 13: two weeks, which you know, which is a good thing.

1006
00:54:46,787 --> 00:54:48,667
Speaker 13: And I think up to fifty minutes yesterday it was

1007
00:54:49,067 --> 00:54:50,587
Speaker 13: you know, it was quite an even game, was at

1008
00:54:50,587 --> 00:54:53,707
Speaker 13: five nil for that for a long period we felt

1009
00:54:53,787 --> 00:54:56,507
Speaker 13: like we had a lot of opportunities to score. Some

1010
00:54:56,587 --> 00:55:00,067
Speaker 13: of the skill set stuff wasn't as good it needs

1011
00:55:00,067 --> 00:55:01,267
Speaker 13: to be. I thought the Chiefs, you know, they were

1012
00:55:01,267 --> 00:55:03,307
Speaker 13: a step up from playing the Blues last week, is

1013
00:55:03,307 --> 00:55:05,427
Speaker 13: as most teams are. That second weeks of their defense

1014
00:55:05,467 --> 00:55:09,227
Speaker 13: put us on a bit more pre shore, which was good.

1015
00:55:09,707 --> 00:55:11,827
Speaker 13: And yeah, the last sort of thirty minutes was felt,

1016
00:55:11,947 --> 00:55:13,587
Speaker 13: you know, we dropped off a little bit, which was

1017
00:55:13,587 --> 00:55:14,467
Speaker 13: a little bit disappointing.

1018
00:55:14,507 --> 00:55:15,147
Speaker 7: I guess.

1019
00:55:16,507 --> 00:55:19,067
Speaker 13: In terms of the physicality we you know, we we

1020
00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:23,507
Speaker 13: didn't feel like we we won many races around the contact.

1021
00:55:23,627 --> 00:55:25,027
Speaker 13: You know, we thought the Chiefs would maybe a bit

1022
00:55:25,067 --> 00:55:26,947
Speaker 13: sharper there. So there's definitely a couple of things for

1023
00:55:27,027 --> 00:55:30,587
Speaker 13: us to you know, take from that game and and

1024
00:55:30,667 --> 00:55:32,187
Speaker 13: get across as we head towards the Mona.

1025
00:55:32,707 --> 00:55:34,307
Speaker 2: Let's have look at your squad. One of your key

1026
00:55:34,427 --> 00:55:37,827
Speaker 2: guynes has been Kay Wee born Japanese Lock Warner Dunce.

1027
00:55:38,107 --> 00:55:39,827
Speaker 2: How's he fitted in and what are you hoping to

1028
00:55:39,867 --> 00:55:41,187
Speaker 2: say from him this season?

1029
00:55:42,267 --> 00:55:44,627
Speaker 13: Yeah, he's feeling real good. He's a pretty low key character,

1030
00:55:45,667 --> 00:55:47,587
Speaker 13: sort of gets on with his work and he's coming

1031
00:55:47,587 --> 00:55:49,427
Speaker 13: out a shell a little bit now as we sort

1032
00:55:49,427 --> 00:55:50,667
Speaker 13: of all get to know him a little bit and

1033
00:55:51,867 --> 00:55:54,427
Speaker 13: over the two weeks, like you know yesterday, in particularly

1034
00:55:54,507 --> 00:55:57,347
Speaker 13: set piece workers is really encouraging. Puts a lot of

1035
00:55:57,347 --> 00:56:00,547
Speaker 13: pressure defensively on the line out and he's obviously a

1036
00:56:00,587 --> 00:56:02,827
Speaker 13: tall man for the you know, for for us at

1037
00:56:02,867 --> 00:56:04,147
Speaker 13: another game possession there.

1038
00:56:04,227 --> 00:56:05,907
Speaker 7: So so that's good.

1039
00:56:05,907 --> 00:56:07,787
Speaker 13: And you know he's gonna labim you know, around the

1040
00:56:07,947 --> 00:56:09,907
Speaker 13: around the field where he need to load his body

1041
00:56:09,947 --> 00:56:12,907
Speaker 13: height both sides of the ball. You know, we'll we'll

1042
00:56:12,947 --> 00:56:14,707
Speaker 13: can help them with that and the game will demand

1043
00:56:14,707 --> 00:56:17,267
Speaker 13: that of him. You know, he's he's a big man

1044
00:56:17,347 --> 00:56:19,907
Speaker 13: up in Japan when he plays in the Japanese league,

1045
00:56:19,947 --> 00:56:22,587
Speaker 13: So yeah, maybelow in his body a little bit as

1046
00:56:22,627 --> 00:56:24,147
Speaker 13: he gets to wards those collision There'll be a good

1047
00:56:24,147 --> 00:56:25,747
Speaker 13: lot of work on for him. But yeah, we really

1048
00:56:25,787 --> 00:56:26,787
Speaker 13: enjoying them in the team.

1049
00:56:26,947 --> 00:56:30,227
Speaker 2: Jordy Barrett returns from his sabbatical on Ireland. Josh Moby

1050
00:56:30,227 --> 00:56:32,827
Speaker 2: also back after a year playing in France. You haven't

1051
00:56:32,827 --> 00:56:34,707
Speaker 2: lost him any players, Clark, I look at the roster.

1052
00:56:34,867 --> 00:56:38,707
Speaker 2: Is this the strongest squad you've had us Hurricane's head couch.

1053
00:56:40,427 --> 00:56:41,027
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so.

1054
00:56:41,187 --> 00:56:44,867
Speaker 13: Certainly around that cohesion piece, you know, we we have

1055
00:56:44,947 --> 00:56:47,627
Speaker 13: with players over the last two or three years, you know,

1056
00:56:47,667 --> 00:56:52,027
Speaker 13: with keeps the experience around like a kJ or you know,

1057
00:56:52,107 --> 00:56:53,267
Speaker 13: Dane Cole finished.

1058
00:56:52,947 --> 00:56:54,627
Speaker 7: The year before Harvey obviously took off.

1059
00:56:54,707 --> 00:56:58,827
Speaker 13: So there's there's been players leave, but it's definitely you know,

1060
00:56:58,827 --> 00:57:03,227
Speaker 13: a strong squad, you know, got some depth, but we

1061
00:57:03,267 --> 00:57:04,867
Speaker 13: can't rely on that. You know, we need to prepare

1062
00:57:04,947 --> 00:57:06,987
Speaker 13: a while each week and make sure we turn up

1063
00:57:07,027 --> 00:57:10,267
Speaker 13: with a with a right artude. Something we've already talked

1064
00:57:10,307 --> 00:57:13,347
Speaker 13: about is that, you know, just because you've got a

1065
00:57:13,347 --> 00:57:16,867
Speaker 13: squad that you think can go deep and in positions,

1066
00:57:16,907 --> 00:57:18,387
Speaker 13: you got a couple of injuries and it can change

1067
00:57:18,427 --> 00:57:20,867
Speaker 13: quickly on you. So yeah, we just got to prepare

1068
00:57:20,867 --> 00:57:24,427
Speaker 13: a proper each week and get that part right and

1069
00:57:24,467 --> 00:57:25,907
Speaker 13: then see where it takes us.

1070
00:57:26,307 --> 00:57:29,587
Speaker 2: Always a real fascination about Rubin Love and where he's

1071
00:57:29,587 --> 00:57:31,707
Speaker 2: gonna play. Is he going to get a crack in

1072
00:57:31,747 --> 00:57:34,147
Speaker 2: the team jersey again this season or is he more

1073
00:57:34,227 --> 00:57:36,227
Speaker 2: likely to be at fifteen. You've got breat Cameron Nicolls,

1074
00:57:37,507 --> 00:57:39,867
Speaker 2: a very accomplished first five. What do we what's your

1075
00:57:39,907 --> 00:57:41,307
Speaker 2: thinking around Rubin Love this season?

1076
00:57:42,267 --> 00:57:42,507
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1077
00:57:42,507 --> 00:57:43,067
Speaker 7: I bet I both.

1078
00:57:43,107 --> 00:57:46,507
Speaker 13: I would think you know, he played about of ten yesterday.

1079
00:57:47,627 --> 00:57:49,627
Speaker 13: Brett had a little bit of a sort of illness

1080
00:57:49,667 --> 00:57:52,467
Speaker 13: over two separate weeks since Christmas. That slowed them down

1081
00:57:52,507 --> 00:57:54,467
Speaker 13: and we touched it has got really good pre Christmas,

1082
00:57:55,827 --> 00:57:57,907
Speaker 13: so he's just getting back into a full training in

1083
00:57:57,947 --> 00:58:01,787
Speaker 13: the last ten days. Yeah, we genuinely see both of

1084
00:58:01,787 --> 00:58:05,227
Speaker 13: them competing for that position. You know, it's good to

1085
00:58:05,267 --> 00:58:07,707
Speaker 13: have to calm Harp and could play there. Lucas Cassmotes

1086
00:58:07,747 --> 00:58:10,987
Speaker 13: had a good preseason. It might depend on you know,

1087
00:58:10,987 --> 00:58:15,187
Speaker 13: who plays twelve, who plays fifteen, those sort of combinations.

1088
00:58:15,227 --> 00:58:17,787
Speaker 13: So as usual at this time of the year, we

1089
00:58:18,027 --> 00:58:20,667
Speaker 13: hope we'll have those sort of discussions and decisions to

1090
00:58:20,707 --> 00:58:22,227
Speaker 13: make to healthy bodies.

1091
00:58:22,467 --> 00:58:25,987
Speaker 2: And Jason Holland has come back into the Hurricanes coaching

1092
00:58:26,187 --> 00:58:28,627
Speaker 2: set up. The hell have you sort of integrated him in?

1093
00:58:28,867 --> 00:58:31,307
Speaker 2: And I mean, obviously it's a pretty experienced rugby couch,

1094
00:58:31,347 --> 00:58:33,827
Speaker 2: but have you divided the responsibilities and what will they

1095
00:58:33,827 --> 00:58:34,707
Speaker 2: be looking after for you?

1096
00:58:35,627 --> 00:58:39,307
Speaker 13: Yeah, he's working with with Brad Cooper and Brin Evans

1097
00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:42,507
Speaker 13: around the attacking signs of a game. He's got a

1098
00:58:42,507 --> 00:58:44,907
Speaker 13: great eye for detail. He's got, you know, as you say,

1099
00:58:44,987 --> 00:58:48,267
Speaker 13: real experience around the game and what works, how we

1100
00:58:48,347 --> 00:58:50,387
Speaker 13: keep momentum inal game. It's a big part of what

1101
00:58:50,387 --> 00:58:51,867
Speaker 13: we want to try and do, so how we use

1102
00:58:51,907 --> 00:58:54,947
Speaker 13: a kicking game and momentum game if teams are on

1103
00:58:54,987 --> 00:58:55,787
Speaker 13: top defensively.

1104
00:58:55,907 --> 00:58:57,387
Speaker 7: So so, yeah, he's got a sort of.

1105
00:58:57,347 --> 00:59:00,267
Speaker 13: Wide ranging sort of eye on the game by in

1106
00:59:00,347 --> 00:59:04,707
Speaker 13: particular phrase and count and tunnel over attack. And he's

1107
00:59:04,747 --> 00:59:06,187
Speaker 13: good for me. And you know, he's got a head

1108
00:59:06,187 --> 00:59:08,627
Speaker 13: coach for a number of years. Having somebody with that

1109
00:59:08,667 --> 00:59:11,907
Speaker 13: sort of second set of eyes that's got the experience

1110
00:59:11,907 --> 00:59:14,467
Speaker 13: of a weekly flow in the field of the bigger picture,

1111
00:59:16,227 --> 00:59:17,707
Speaker 13: you know, it'll be good for me to be able

1112
00:59:17,747 --> 00:59:21,467
Speaker 13: to lean on him with his experience in different lens

1113
00:59:21,467 --> 00:59:24,187
Speaker 13: and things. So yeah, we're enjoying the men seems to

1114
00:59:24,187 --> 00:59:28,827
Speaker 13: be enjoying himself. And yeah, it's been a great addition really.

1115
00:59:28,987 --> 00:59:32,427
Speaker 2: And Hurricanes always contained us, always make the top six,

1116
00:59:32,467 --> 00:59:34,667
Speaker 2: always there or there are bats and on your day

1117
00:59:34,707 --> 00:59:37,987
Speaker 2: can bide anybody. Have you thought about what it's going

1118
00:59:38,027 --> 00:59:40,067
Speaker 2: to take to take that final step to win one

1119
00:59:40,107 --> 00:59:43,787
Speaker 2: of these things for the first comment ten years, Yeah.

1120
00:59:43,667 --> 00:59:46,307
Speaker 13: We think about it fair bit, as I'm sure all

1121
00:59:46,307 --> 00:59:51,547
Speaker 13: the Hurricanes teams have for the last ten years. You say,

1122
00:59:51,587 --> 00:59:53,667
Speaker 13: we've got the game that can have teams. We've got

1123
00:59:53,667 --> 00:59:55,307
Speaker 13: the game that can beat teams. Can we do it

1124
00:59:55,347 --> 00:59:57,187
Speaker 13: on the on the biggest stage and the biggest nights

1125
00:59:57,227 --> 01:00:00,947
Speaker 13: with the consistency That comes down to how we prepare

1126
01:00:00,947 --> 01:00:02,547
Speaker 13: every week. You know, that's going back to that week

1127
01:00:02,587 --> 01:00:04,667
Speaker 13: to week. It's the habits and behaviors that we build

1128
01:00:04,707 --> 01:00:07,587
Speaker 13: every day that will stand stand up under the pressure

1129
01:00:07,627 --> 01:00:11,467
Speaker 13: of playoff rugby. So that's will focus, you know for

1130
01:00:11,507 --> 01:00:13,387
Speaker 13: the next two or three months, is to be good

1131
01:00:13,467 --> 01:00:16,827
Speaker 13: enough to get into that top six and have the

1132
01:00:16,867 --> 01:00:19,107
Speaker 13: game and the sort of behaviors and habits that they

1133
01:00:19,147 --> 01:00:21,707
Speaker 13: will stand up under the pressure of knockout rugby. So

1134
01:00:22,827 --> 01:00:26,027
Speaker 13: it's an exciting few months ahead. But we're really looking

1135
01:00:26,027 --> 01:00:27,587
Speaker 13: forward to this week just to take a breather and

1136
01:00:28,867 --> 01:00:31,027
Speaker 13: a guess, watch the competition, see what the referee is

1137
01:00:31,067 --> 01:00:33,467
Speaker 13: looking like and seeing the sort of interpretations, get a

1138
01:00:33,467 --> 01:00:35,507
Speaker 13: little look at it. We we get to look at

1139
01:00:35,507 --> 01:00:38,467
Speaker 13: overs in the Wana play a live game where and

1140
01:00:38,467 --> 01:00:41,107
Speaker 13: they've only had one trial game, so so that's all

1141
01:00:41,147 --> 01:00:43,827
Speaker 13: sort of positives. So yeah, we're looking forward to this week.

1142
01:00:43,867 --> 01:00:46,067
Speaker 2: Good man, Thanks Clark, I appreciate you taking the time.

1143
01:00:46,107 --> 01:00:48,907
Speaker 2: Clark led law head coach of the Hurricanes, who I

1144
01:00:48,947 --> 01:00:50,827
Speaker 2: have to sit and watch the first weekend. As Clark

1145
01:00:50,827 --> 01:00:53,827
Speaker 2: mentioned there they have the buye with in a living

1146
01:00:53,867 --> 01:00:56,627
Speaker 2: team competition, so it s it's he ridiculous the kind

1147
01:00:56,667 --> 01:00:58,667
Speaker 2: start with a buy Well, I guess somebody has too,

1148
01:00:59,347 --> 01:01:02,067
Speaker 2: you know, I guess there's what it's going to be.

1149
01:01:02,107 --> 01:01:04,547
Speaker 2: One time that that you know stays on the start

1150
01:01:04,587 --> 01:01:07,387
Speaker 2: line while the other team get the seasons going. I'm

1151
01:01:07,387 --> 01:01:11,227
Speaker 2: not sure and it's any more ridiculous or otherwise than

1152
01:01:11,267 --> 01:01:13,387
Speaker 2: another team having the buy I'll tell you when you

1153
01:01:13,387 --> 01:01:16,387
Speaker 2: wouldn't want the buy super round, that's when you don't

1154
01:01:16,387 --> 01:01:18,587
Speaker 2: want to have the buye. That's going to be a

1155
01:01:18,627 --> 01:01:21,987
Speaker 2: great occasion across anzac weekend in christ Church. So for

1156
01:01:22,027 --> 01:01:25,067
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes, Malwana Pacifica are their first opponent on the

1157
01:01:25,147 --> 01:01:28,427
Speaker 2: night of Friday, February twenty that is at Sky Stadium.

1158
01:01:28,467 --> 01:01:30,987
Speaker 2: Then they travel up to Latoka to take on the

1159
01:01:30,987 --> 01:01:34,947
Speaker 2: Fiji in Drewer. They're away in Sydney against the war

1160
01:01:35,027 --> 01:01:37,987
Speaker 2: Retars and then back home against the Force. In fact,

1161
01:01:38,027 --> 01:01:41,267
Speaker 2: that game is at McLean Park in Napier on the

1162
01:01:41,307 --> 01:01:44,147
Speaker 2: thirteenth of March down to play the Highlanders and at

1163
01:01:44,147 --> 01:01:46,107
Speaker 2: home to the Red. So yeah, here they're in everywhere

1164
01:01:46,107 --> 01:01:49,507
Speaker 2: for the Hurricanes and as I say, very much backloaded

1165
01:01:49,747 --> 01:01:53,187
Speaker 2: when it comes to their New Zealand Derby's They play

1166
01:01:53,267 --> 01:01:57,187
Speaker 2: the Crusaders twice in the last five weeks of the competition.

1167
01:01:57,507 --> 01:02:00,787
Speaker 2: Again it's one of the vagaries of the draw. But yeah,

1168
01:02:01,387 --> 01:02:04,947
Speaker 2: a fairly intense final month in May for the Hurricanes.

1169
01:02:04,987 --> 01:02:08,067
Speaker 2: But across the season you have to play everybody the

1170
01:02:08,387 --> 01:02:11,347
Speaker 2: prescribed number of times, so there's always going to be

1171
01:02:11,387 --> 01:02:14,507
Speaker 2: anomalies like this one twenty seven. It is one to

1172
01:02:14,587 --> 01:02:17,547
Speaker 2: go in our rip around the New Zealand based Super

1173
01:02:17,627 --> 01:02:21,907
Speaker 2: Rugby franchises, it is the Highlanders. How do they improve

1174
01:02:22,107 --> 01:02:26,547
Speaker 2: on a very disappointing twenty twenty five? Their assistant coach

1175
01:02:26,707 --> 01:02:28,627
Speaker 2: Clark Doermody going to join us right after this.

1176
01:02:29,947 --> 01:02:33,347
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields call oh eight

1177
01:02:33,467 --> 01:02:36,427
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason.

1178
01:02:36,187 --> 01:02:37,227
Speaker 4: Fine and GJ.

1179
01:02:37,387 --> 01:02:41,107
Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's first trusted home builder News Talks B.

1180
01:02:41,427 --> 01:02:44,187
Speaker 2: One thirty on Weekend Sport. Let's complete our catchups with

1181
01:02:44,267 --> 01:02:48,267
Speaker 2: the New Zealand based Super Rugby franchises. The Highlanders bottom

1182
01:02:48,347 --> 01:02:51,387
Speaker 2: of the table in twenty twenty five, just three wins

1183
01:02:51,427 --> 01:02:53,907
Speaker 2: from their fourteen matches. One of their high points though,

1184
01:02:54,307 --> 01:02:56,307
Speaker 2: victory over the Blues in round two.

1185
01:02:56,787 --> 01:03:00,307
Speaker 12: Surely the siren will go somewhere there it is Bost'll

1186
01:03:00,387 --> 01:03:03,387
Speaker 12: king it out, Hen'll we can't bellerial kicking out and

1187
01:03:03,547 --> 01:03:06,187
Speaker 12: that in a famous, famous Highland of victory.

1188
01:03:06,587 --> 01:03:13,227
Speaker 2: In thirty years of covering, there you go. Paul Allison

1189
01:03:13,267 --> 01:03:15,947
Speaker 2: absolutely loving it in the commentary box there at Forsyth

1190
01:03:15,987 --> 01:03:18,507
Speaker 2: Bar Stadium. They won the following week as well. From memory,

1191
01:03:19,267 --> 01:03:22,467
Speaker 2: the Highlanders were two from three, but then only one

1192
01:03:22,587 --> 01:03:25,547
Speaker 2: further win across the rest of the season. They open

1193
01:03:25,867 --> 01:03:28,987
Speaker 2: the season against the Crusaders Friday night. In fact, it's

1194
01:03:28,987 --> 01:03:31,907
Speaker 2: the very first game of Super Rugby Pacific for twenty

1195
01:03:31,947 --> 01:03:36,587
Speaker 2: twenty six Highlanders the Crusaders in Dunedin. Highlander's assistant coach

1196
01:03:36,947 --> 01:03:40,787
Speaker 2: Clark Dermody joins us Clark, not too long now until

1197
01:03:41,107 --> 01:03:43,587
Speaker 2: Super Rugby starts and you start my host and the

1198
01:03:43,587 --> 01:03:45,947
Speaker 2: Crusaders on Friday night. How are you feeling five days

1199
01:03:45,947 --> 01:03:46,947
Speaker 2: out from your first game?

1200
01:03:48,147 --> 01:03:49,307
Speaker 14: I think everyone's excited.

1201
01:03:49,627 --> 01:03:53,147
Speaker 4: I mean o week down here the start of it anyway, and.

1202
01:03:53,107 --> 01:03:54,907
Speaker 14: So there's going to be a full zoo and that

1203
01:03:55,067 --> 01:03:58,547
Speaker 14: always brings a lot of excitement and first game of

1204
01:03:58,587 --> 01:04:02,547
Speaker 14: the season, the boys are ready go after a few

1205
01:04:02,547 --> 01:04:03,227
Speaker 14: months of training.

1206
01:04:03,587 --> 01:04:06,507
Speaker 2: How much happier were you with your second preseason game

1207
01:04:06,547 --> 01:04:09,627
Speaker 2: against Malwana on Friday compared to your first one against

1208
01:04:09,667 --> 01:04:11,467
Speaker 2: the Crusaders last weekend and tomorrow.

1209
01:04:12,027 --> 01:04:15,467
Speaker 14: I think we ignowledged we've probably got our preparation a

1210
01:04:15,467 --> 01:04:19,107
Speaker 14: bit off in that week and leading into the Timaru game.

1211
01:04:19,347 --> 01:04:21,387
Speaker 14: And then I felt like that was a big area

1212
01:04:21,427 --> 01:04:23,907
Speaker 14: of change for the boys leading into that game and

1213
01:04:24,587 --> 01:04:27,467
Speaker 14: allowed us to at least, you know, a match physicality

1214
01:04:27,467 --> 01:04:30,387
Speaker 14: with minor pacifica, which helps in any game. And then

1215
01:04:31,147 --> 01:04:32,387
Speaker 14: you know, some of the stuff we were trying to

1216
01:04:32,427 --> 01:04:35,667
Speaker 14: achieve around I guess set piece and strikes we're starting

1217
01:04:35,667 --> 01:04:36,987
Speaker 14: to work as well.

1218
01:04:37,027 --> 01:04:39,707
Speaker 2: What was different about your prep compared to the game

1219
01:04:39,747 --> 01:04:41,867
Speaker 2: against the Crusaders. What did you do better?

1220
01:04:42,907 --> 01:04:43,067
Speaker 4: All?

1221
01:04:43,107 --> 01:04:44,747
Speaker 14: As coaches, we sort of took a bit out of

1222
01:04:44,747 --> 01:04:47,547
Speaker 14: the week, so hopefully the boys were a bit fresher

1223
01:04:47,587 --> 01:04:50,947
Speaker 14: going into it. Sort of used that Crusaders weeks more

1224
01:04:50,947 --> 01:04:54,627
Speaker 14: of a preseason mindset, so they were still training pretty

1225
01:04:54,627 --> 01:04:57,147
Speaker 14: hard right up to the game. That definitely affected the

1226
01:04:57,187 --> 01:04:59,827
Speaker 14: start that we put out against the Crusaders and then

1227
01:05:00,907 --> 01:05:02,747
Speaker 14: definitely noticed the difference when we lightened the load a

1228
01:05:02,747 --> 01:05:06,427
Speaker 14: bit last week leading into the game in Queensdowne.

1229
01:05:06,387 --> 01:05:09,307
Speaker 2: We saw Fabi and Holland come off injured against Mowana

1230
01:05:09,347 --> 01:05:11,427
Speaker 2: on Friday. Can you give us any update.

1231
01:05:12,747 --> 01:05:13,747
Speaker 14: He's injured a shoulder.

1232
01:05:13,747 --> 01:05:15,547
Speaker 4: I don't really know the extent of it yet.

1233
01:05:15,587 --> 01:05:19,827
Speaker 14: Obviously it's only Sunday at the moment, so he's he's

1234
01:05:19,907 --> 01:05:23,067
Speaker 14: going to get checked out tomorrow and you know, fingers cross,

1235
01:05:23,107 --> 01:05:23,787
Speaker 14: it's not as bad.

1236
01:05:23,627 --> 01:05:24,427
Speaker 7: As what it looked.

1237
01:05:24,987 --> 01:05:28,347
Speaker 2: Is it likely he'll he'll be available for Game one?

1238
01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,707
Speaker 14: Look, i'd love I'd love him to be obviously huge

1239
01:05:32,827 --> 01:05:35,707
Speaker 14: influential player for us, but it's probably a bit early

1240
01:05:35,787 --> 01:05:36,227
Speaker 14: to say.

1241
01:05:36,427 --> 01:05:39,027
Speaker 2: All right, we'll wait for an update. There no getting

1242
01:05:39,027 --> 01:05:41,027
Speaker 2: away from the fact that last year was disappointing for

1243
01:05:41,107 --> 01:05:43,107
Speaker 2: you as a as a team. Where have you placed

1244
01:05:43,147 --> 01:05:46,267
Speaker 2: your focus as you look for a much improved showing

1245
01:05:46,307 --> 01:05:47,267
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six.

1246
01:05:48,067 --> 01:05:51,787
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think we acknowledged we didn't get the back

1247
01:05:51,827 --> 01:05:54,907
Speaker 14: in the games, right, So I think it's pretty well

1248
01:05:54,947 --> 01:05:57,867
Speaker 14: talked about that. You know, we we were losing games

1249
01:05:57,947 --> 01:06:00,227
Speaker 14: within seven points. I think there were seven games we

1250
01:06:00,227 --> 01:06:03,107
Speaker 14: were pretty close and even leading going into.

1251
01:06:02,907 --> 01:06:06,427
Speaker 4: Those last few minutes. So a lot of stuff.

1252
01:06:06,507 --> 01:06:10,347
Speaker 14: Game understanding, game awareness with the leadership group understanding that

1253
01:06:10,387 --> 01:06:12,907
Speaker 14: when we get into those moments is how to win

1254
01:06:13,267 --> 01:06:14,827
Speaker 14: or close out games.

1255
01:06:15,307 --> 01:06:17,947
Speaker 2: You open against the Crusaders as mentioned, and then the Chiefs,

1256
01:06:18,107 --> 01:06:21,427
Speaker 2: last year's two Grand finalists, both in Dunedin, and we

1257
01:06:21,547 --> 01:06:24,027
Speaker 2: know what that place is like the home games, particularly

1258
01:06:24,027 --> 01:06:26,107
Speaker 2: at the start of the university year. Do you think

1259
01:06:26,147 --> 01:06:28,947
Speaker 2: it'll give you a pretty good early gauge on where

1260
01:06:28,987 --> 01:06:32,267
Speaker 2: you're at facing those two sides in your first two games.

1261
01:06:32,827 --> 01:06:33,627
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely.

1262
01:06:34,667 --> 01:06:36,707
Speaker 14: You know, in the last few years there have been

1263
01:06:37,107 --> 01:06:38,787
Speaker 14: the teams near the top of the table, and it'll

1264
01:06:38,827 --> 01:06:40,467
Speaker 14: be a good chance for us to test that early.

1265
01:06:42,587 --> 01:06:45,867
Speaker 14: Like I say, we're I feel like we were pretty

1266
01:06:45,867 --> 01:06:48,387
Speaker 14: close last year, but pretty close isn't quite good enough.

1267
01:06:48,427 --> 01:06:51,867
Speaker 14: So it's a good chance to go against you know,

1268
01:06:52,067 --> 01:06:54,107
Speaker 14: good teams early on to see where we're at.

1269
01:06:54,627 --> 01:06:57,787
Speaker 2: In terms of players who've you've brought into your squad.

1270
01:06:57,827 --> 01:07:00,507
Speaker 2: Angus Tavo has arrived from the Blues House. He fitted in.

1271
01:07:01,307 --> 01:07:03,907
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I Thinkus has bort his own style. He's

1272
01:07:05,467 --> 01:07:08,027
Speaker 14: he's really added to the group, not just the stuff

1273
01:07:08,067 --> 01:07:10,427
Speaker 14: he's doing on field, He's been a pretty good mentor

1274
01:07:10,507 --> 01:07:13,627
Speaker 14: to you know, the younger front rowers, pretty giving with

1275
01:07:13,667 --> 01:07:17,587
Speaker 14: his time playing well as well, which always helps. So

1276
01:07:18,747 --> 01:07:20,547
Speaker 14: and then you know, the stuff that he had off

1277
01:07:20,627 --> 01:07:23,867
Speaker 14: the fielders probably something a bit unique to him and

1278
01:07:23,867 --> 01:07:26,387
Speaker 14: and something that we may be lacked and probably a

1279
01:07:26,427 --> 01:07:28,267
Speaker 14: bit more introverted than what gusses.

1280
01:07:29,427 --> 01:07:32,747
Speaker 2: Well, that's just the Southern mentality, isn't it. He'd be, yeah,

1281
01:07:33,787 --> 01:07:35,947
Speaker 2: be an interesting little dynamic for him to fit into

1282
01:07:36,027 --> 01:07:38,147
Speaker 2: either Meason, Oh, I know, he's done this thing.

1283
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Speaker 14: I think the boys have really enjoyed his spin on

1284
01:07:40,827 --> 01:07:45,427
Speaker 14: how he prepares for games, his ability to switch off

1285
01:07:45,427 --> 01:07:47,707
Speaker 14: off the field and have a laugh as has been

1286
01:07:47,787 --> 01:07:48,387
Speaker 14: much needed.

1287
01:07:49,267 --> 01:07:52,187
Speaker 2: Everyone was really looking forward to Dylan Pledge's first Super

1288
01:07:52,267 --> 01:07:54,587
Speaker 2: Rugby season as well. That's been dashed by injury. How

1289
01:07:54,587 --> 01:07:56,547
Speaker 2: gutting is that for you and for the player?

1290
01:07:57,187 --> 01:07:59,707
Speaker 14: Oh, it was you know a huge disappointing and it

1291
01:07:59,747 --> 01:08:01,707
Speaker 14: was just a nothing thing at training as well, Like

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Speaker 14: it was just one of those probably freak unlucky things

1293
01:08:05,067 --> 01:08:08,347
Speaker 14: that happens on a rugby field. Wasn't a big contact injury,

1294
01:08:08,347 --> 01:08:11,547
Speaker 14: it was just yeah, just really unlucky and obviously we

1295
01:08:12,227 --> 01:08:15,467
Speaker 14: know the talent that Dylan's got. We've seen that for

1296
01:08:15,507 --> 01:08:19,707
Speaker 14: a targo and how he was influential in those games.

1297
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Speaker 14: So he said surgery. He's been out of camp for

1298
01:08:23,627 --> 01:08:26,787
Speaker 14: a while, just resting up and then hopefully be back

1299
01:08:26,787 --> 01:08:28,427
Speaker 14: with us soon to start his.

1300
01:08:29,947 --> 01:08:30,347
Speaker 4: Rehab.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to that. Of course, the elephant in the

1302
01:08:32,547 --> 01:08:34,987
Speaker 2: room at the Highlanders is that your head coach, Jamie

1303
01:08:35,067 --> 01:08:37,347
Speaker 2: Joseph as a front runner for the vacant All Blacks job.

1304
01:08:37,587 --> 01:08:40,347
Speaker 2: How have you handled that situation internally?

1305
01:08:41,587 --> 01:08:42,707
Speaker 15: No, business as usual.

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01:08:42,747 --> 01:08:45,307
Speaker 14: I think you should have talked about already that we're playing,

1307
01:08:47,267 --> 01:08:50,547
Speaker 14: you know, two teams that have traditionally been near the

1308
01:08:50,547 --> 01:08:53,187
Speaker 14: front of competitions early in the season for us.

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01:08:53,187 --> 01:08:54,827
Speaker 7: So a lot of.

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Speaker 14: Folks has just gone on that, to be fair, not

1311
01:08:56,987 --> 01:09:00,867
Speaker 14: a lot talked about. What's happening above, understand is probably

1312
01:09:00,867 --> 01:09:03,107
Speaker 14: a process that everyone's going through, but we're not really

1313
01:09:03,147 --> 01:09:05,667
Speaker 14: aware of it as staff and players. We're just we're

1314
01:09:05,667 --> 01:09:06,267
Speaker 14: just cracking onto.

1315
01:09:07,107 --> 01:09:11,307
Speaker 2: Have you noticed it, well, exactly right, Yeah, he did.

1316
01:09:11,347 --> 01:09:11,467
Speaker 8: Right.

1317
01:09:11,507 --> 01:09:13,787
Speaker 2: Have you noticed any difference in the way Jamie's been

1318
01:09:13,907 --> 01:09:14,547
Speaker 2: around the group?

1319
01:09:15,827 --> 01:09:16,467
Speaker 4: No, not at all.

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01:09:16,627 --> 01:09:21,027
Speaker 14: Jamie's pretty good poker players. He's just doing his thing

1321
01:09:21,067 --> 01:09:24,147
Speaker 14: for us. You know, he hadn't changed at all.

1322
01:09:24,507 --> 01:09:26,667
Speaker 2: Love it, Clark, Well, all the best for the season

1323
01:09:26,667 --> 01:09:29,667
Speaker 2: opener against the Crusaders Friday night. All eyes on Forsyth

1324
01:09:29,667 --> 01:09:31,667
Speaker 2: Bar Stadium. Look forward to catching up across the season

1325
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:31,827
Speaker 2: with you.

1326
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Speaker 14: No, awesome, looking forward to it. Thanks very much, No.

1327
01:09:34,547 --> 01:09:37,027
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Clark. Clark Dermody, their assistant coach

1328
01:09:37,067 --> 01:09:39,507
Speaker 2: at the Highlanders. Jamie Joseph just going about his business.

1329
01:09:39,907 --> 01:09:42,747
Speaker 2: The Southern mentality down there. They never get too hyped

1330
01:09:42,787 --> 01:09:45,427
Speaker 2: up about things, do they. They just let the process

1331
01:09:45,467 --> 01:09:48,507
Speaker 2: play out. It will be a fascinating little storyline, they

1332
01:09:48,547 --> 01:09:51,027
Speaker 2: won't it. There was talk during the week, wasn't there

1333
01:09:51,067 --> 01:09:53,547
Speaker 2: that that? And I don't know whether this was something

1334
01:09:53,547 --> 01:09:57,627
Speaker 2: that had been reported or rumored that there was a

1335
01:09:57,667 --> 01:10:00,147
Speaker 2: thought that if Jamie Joseph was going to be the

1336
01:10:00,187 --> 01:10:03,947
Speaker 2: All Blacks coach, that he might also remain Highlanders coach

1337
01:10:05,147 --> 01:10:09,867
Speaker 2: across the Super Rugby season to avoid presumably disruption at

1338
01:10:09,867 --> 01:10:14,347
Speaker 2: the Highlanders. My first reaction is, I just don't know

1339
01:10:14,387 --> 01:10:19,307
Speaker 2: how that would work. If we learned anything from our

1340
01:10:19,307 --> 01:10:22,307
Speaker 2: discussion yesterday around Scott Robertson, it was just how big

1341
01:10:22,347 --> 01:10:26,307
Speaker 2: this job is, So I don't know whether you want

1342
01:10:26,307 --> 01:10:29,627
Speaker 2: to be doing that and another job. I know it's

1343
01:10:29,667 --> 01:10:33,907
Speaker 2: a unique circumstance that Jamie josephs contracted to the Highlanders,

1344
01:10:33,987 --> 01:10:36,667
Speaker 2: and taking them out of that if that's what transpires,

1345
01:10:37,267 --> 01:10:42,067
Speaker 2: would certainly be hugely disruptive to the Highlanders. I feel

1346
01:10:42,067 --> 01:10:45,387
Speaker 2: like New Zealand Rugby, who obviously are the employer here,

1347
01:10:46,147 --> 01:10:49,227
Speaker 2: would say, well, the greater good is Jamie Joseph being

1348
01:10:49,267 --> 01:10:53,267
Speaker 2: all blacks coach. Like moving somebody within your organization to

1349
01:10:54,027 --> 01:10:57,067
Speaker 2: promoting them to a different to a different building or

1350
01:10:57,107 --> 01:11:01,547
Speaker 2: a different location. I'm not sure you'd want them also

1351
01:11:01,627 --> 01:11:05,627
Speaker 2: doing the other job. Anyway. That's a conversation for when

1352
01:11:05,667 --> 01:11:08,107
Speaker 2: the bridge arrives and we cross that bridge. It might

1353
01:11:08,147 --> 01:11:10,827
Speaker 2: not be a conversation to be had depending on who

1354
01:11:10,987 --> 01:11:14,627
Speaker 2: eventually gets that job. Super Rugby Pacific twenty twenty six

1355
01:11:14,667 --> 01:11:18,227
Speaker 2: starts Friday night Highlanders Crusaders in duned and followed by

1356
01:11:18,267 --> 01:11:22,427
Speaker 2: the Warratars against the Reds at Alian Stadium in Sydney.

1357
01:11:22,787 --> 01:11:25,787
Speaker 2: Then on Saturday, the Fiji and drew Up hosting Moana

1358
01:11:25,787 --> 01:11:29,227
Speaker 2: pacifica at what is short to be a jumping Churchill

1359
01:11:29,307 --> 01:11:33,667
Speaker 2: Park in Lautoka in a fairly warm Churchill Park in Lautoka.

1360
01:11:33,707 --> 01:11:36,147
Speaker 2: I would imagine as well. That's four thirty five Saturday,

1361
01:11:36,827 --> 01:11:40,267
Speaker 2: seven o'clock Saturday night, Blues Chiefs at Eden Park set

1362
01:11:40,307 --> 01:11:42,907
Speaker 2: to be a Bobby Dazzler. Then the Force up against

1363
01:11:42,947 --> 01:11:46,827
Speaker 2: the Brumbies out Western Perth that same night for the

1364
01:11:46,987 --> 01:11:49,667
Speaker 2: completion of Round one of Super Rugby Pacific. You can

1365
01:11:49,667 --> 01:11:53,627
Speaker 2: catch live commentary of all games on Gold Sport via

1366
01:11:53,907 --> 01:11:59,547
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio twenty to two Sunday afternoons. Mean James mcconie, he's

1367
01:11:59,547 --> 01:12:00,347
Speaker 2: with us after.

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01:12:00,147 --> 01:12:05,667
Speaker 1: This one grudge hold Engaged Weekend Sport with Jason Tame

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01:12:05,827 --> 01:12:09,987
Speaker 1: and Gunner Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News.

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Speaker 2: Talk one forty three Sunday afternoon, James mcconey, Hello.

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Speaker 15: Hello, Piney, how are you great? Thanks for watching the

1372
01:12:18,987 --> 01:12:20,227
Speaker 15: downhill I've been.

1373
01:12:20,627 --> 01:12:23,227
Speaker 2: I'm actually you know what happens during events like this

1374
01:12:23,267 --> 01:12:26,787
Speaker 2: Winter Olympics, Commonwealth Games, these sorts of things Olympic Games.

1375
01:12:26,787 --> 01:12:29,667
Speaker 2: I become an instant expert on things I have absolutely

1376
01:12:29,707 --> 01:12:30,987
Speaker 2: no prior knowledge of.

1377
01:12:32,187 --> 01:12:33,747
Speaker 15: Yeah, I can tell you the top speed of the

1378
01:12:33,787 --> 01:12:37,907
Speaker 15: downhillers and that's roughly the speed of a poiracer going

1379
01:12:37,987 --> 01:12:41,267
Speaker 15: past me on the Northwestern motorway out in west Auckland

1380
01:12:41,627 --> 01:12:44,667
Speaker 15: one hundred and forty five kilometers per hour, quite.

1381
01:12:44,427 --> 01:12:51,347
Speaker 2: Fast, unbelievably small margins for era high speeds and hard surfaces.

1382
01:12:51,467 --> 01:12:54,947
Speaker 2: Yet I mean I'd never do these sports, you know,

1383
01:12:55,187 --> 01:12:58,467
Speaker 2: just far too dangerous for someone like me. But incredible

1384
01:12:58,907 --> 01:13:01,467
Speaker 2: what has been done in the broadcast coverage outstanding.

1385
01:13:02,347 --> 01:13:05,307
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been amazing. And also I look at the

1386
01:13:05,387 --> 01:13:08,947
Speaker 15: New Zealand and the year and for the snowboarding, like

1387
01:13:09,187 --> 01:13:11,547
Speaker 15: three in the top ten, I think of a six,

1388
01:13:11,707 --> 01:13:15,947
Speaker 15: eighth and ninth that has been you know, something that

1389
01:13:15,987 --> 01:13:19,227
Speaker 15: we probably didn't expect, and the level was just so

1390
01:13:19,387 --> 01:13:22,747
Speaker 15: high that, look, we're mixing it with athletes that are

1391
01:13:23,347 --> 01:13:26,627
Speaker 15: the really you know, world class. The Japanese sort of

1392
01:13:26,707 --> 01:13:29,027
Speaker 15: usually have that locked up, but the Keys were mixing

1393
01:13:29,067 --> 01:13:29,787
Speaker 15: it with the best.

1394
01:13:29,907 --> 01:13:32,347
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the great thing about that too, James, was

1395
01:13:32,347 --> 01:13:35,427
Speaker 2: that these were athletes who I think prior to the Games,

1396
01:13:35,467 --> 01:13:37,987
Speaker 2: we didn't really sort of think, oh, you know, this

1397
01:13:37,987 --> 01:13:39,507
Speaker 2: this will be the you know, this will be an

1398
01:13:39,547 --> 01:13:42,027
Speaker 2: event where we will meddle. So when we think about

1399
01:13:42,067 --> 01:13:45,267
Speaker 2: the events that we you know, we may have a

1400
01:13:45,307 --> 01:13:48,587
Speaker 2: great chance of meddling in you think about Zoe Slaowski, Senate,

1401
01:13:48,667 --> 01:13:51,627
Speaker 2: Luca Harrington, Alice Robinson. This could be our best games ever.

1402
01:13:52,547 --> 01:13:54,467
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think so too. I think this is where

1403
01:13:54,507 --> 01:13:57,307
Speaker 15: we've kind of set up, is we've already shown that

1404
01:13:57,347 --> 01:14:00,227
Speaker 15: we were very competitive, and now we're waiting for our

1405
01:14:00,267 --> 01:14:05,027
Speaker 15: world class athletes to do something and get on the podium.

1406
01:14:05,067 --> 01:14:09,587
Speaker 15: But look, I was listen to Lion Barrell's interview if

1407
01:14:09,587 --> 01:14:13,067
Speaker 15: you get a chance, is it's so articulate. Sounds like

1408
01:14:13,107 --> 01:14:15,467
Speaker 15: he spent most of his life in America, but the

1409
01:14:15,507 --> 01:14:19,707
Speaker 15: way he represents our country, it's just awesome to see

1410
01:14:19,987 --> 01:14:24,307
Speaker 15: my crag as well. Colleague Arna Wilcox's there up in

1411
01:14:24,347 --> 01:14:27,347
Speaker 15: the snow and doing an amazing job. Start at ten am,

1412
01:14:27,387 --> 01:14:31,107
Speaker 15: finished at eleven am. So yeah, the sky team doing

1413
01:14:31,147 --> 01:14:32,187
Speaker 15: pretty well up there as well.

1414
01:14:32,267 --> 01:14:35,827
Speaker 2: And yeah Line fell Rock of Jamison and Dane Menzi's

1415
01:14:35,867 --> 01:14:39,827
Speaker 2: flying the flag nice and early. So is there anything

1416
01:14:39,987 --> 01:14:42,547
Speaker 2: that you have picked out? I mean, Zoe, like I say,

1417
01:14:42,907 --> 01:14:45,987
Speaker 2: I think she can become the first key we to

1418
01:14:46,107 --> 01:14:50,027
Speaker 2: meddle at three Winter Olympic Games. Incredible. She still seems

1419
01:14:50,027 --> 01:14:52,147
Speaker 2: so young. They're all so young, aren't they. Maybe that's

1420
01:14:52,507 --> 01:14:56,507
Speaker 2: part of it. The fearlessness needed is the fearlessness of youth.

1421
01:14:57,547 --> 01:15:01,027
Speaker 15: Yes, and look apart from Zoe and looking at all

1422
01:15:01,067 --> 01:15:04,227
Speaker 15: those big stars, lind Yvonne, all those names who you

1423
01:15:04,267 --> 01:15:07,227
Speaker 15: do want to see. You know Kim as well in

1424
01:15:07,307 --> 01:15:09,947
Speaker 15: this In the half Pint Snowboard, the one story that

1425
01:15:09,987 --> 01:15:13,467
Speaker 15: caught my eye is the possibility that a ski jumpers

1426
01:15:13,467 --> 01:15:17,907
Speaker 15: male ski jumpers are injecting their penises to improve their

1427
01:15:18,027 --> 01:15:22,427
Speaker 15: chances in the ski jump by enlarging the surface area

1428
01:15:22,547 --> 01:15:26,667
Speaker 15: and therefore giving of their suits and giving them an advantage. Ponty,

1429
01:15:26,707 --> 01:15:27,627
Speaker 15: have you've seen that story.

1430
01:15:27,747 --> 01:15:31,707
Speaker 2: I've seen the story. I've seen the story.

1431
01:15:32,147 --> 01:15:37,027
Speaker 15: Well, first of all, there's two things. One is I'm

1432
01:15:37,027 --> 01:15:39,107
Speaker 15: disappointed no when shoulders hated me to be part of

1433
01:15:39,107 --> 01:15:43,147
Speaker 15: the next theme, very sad. And second of all is

1434
01:15:43,387 --> 01:15:46,147
Speaker 15: when they report these stories, can someone put up a

1435
01:15:46,227 --> 01:15:49,867
Speaker 15: QR code for this? How you lauric acid? I think

1436
01:15:49,867 --> 01:15:55,667
Speaker 15: it's called high lauronic accid because people need to know

1437
01:15:56,067 --> 01:16:00,067
Speaker 15: where to get this product from, and frankly, there's not

1438
01:16:00,227 --> 01:16:04,747
Speaker 15: enough information coming out about it. It's definitely not hydrochloric acid, Poney,

1439
01:16:05,387 --> 01:16:09,227
Speaker 15: it's rotnic acid. But you might have to help out

1440
01:16:09,267 --> 01:16:11,627
Speaker 15: your listeners and do a bit of research yourself. There.

1441
01:16:11,827 --> 01:16:15,587
Speaker 2: You've tried the hydrochloric have you No, no, no, impact.

1442
01:16:15,347 --> 01:16:18,947
Speaker 15: Doesn't doesn't work the way I hope back to square

1443
01:16:19,027 --> 01:16:22,947
Speaker 15: one literally, so yes, but I just thought that that

1444
01:16:23,067 --> 01:16:25,427
Speaker 15: actually the French pole vaulter from the last Olympics, I

1445
01:16:25,427 --> 01:16:29,467
Speaker 15: thought actually might do quite well there. He was obviously

1446
01:16:29,587 --> 01:16:31,547
Speaker 15: had a bit of a problem by having quite a

1447
01:16:31,547 --> 01:16:33,867
Speaker 15: big down totair his operation and it knocked off the.

1448
01:16:35,267 --> 01:16:37,347
Speaker 7: Pole or the bar.

1449
01:16:37,627 --> 01:16:39,347
Speaker 2: Look, and that sort of thing gives you an advantage.

1450
01:16:39,387 --> 01:16:40,667
Speaker 2: It's clearly not the sport for me.

1451
01:16:43,107 --> 01:16:46,347
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, the information's out there that maybe it could be.

1452
01:16:46,587 --> 01:16:48,427
Speaker 15: You know, this is what I'm indeed.

1453
01:16:48,427 --> 01:16:51,507
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to Super Bowl. Speaking of massive,

1454
01:16:52,067 --> 01:16:55,507
Speaker 2: it is a massive day in the United States tomorrow

1455
01:16:55,587 --> 01:16:58,867
Speaker 2: for Super Bowl sixty. Have you have you have you

1456
01:16:58,907 --> 01:17:02,867
Speaker 2: got a favorite for US Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots

1457
01:17:02,867 --> 01:17:04,587
Speaker 2: in Santa Clara, California.

1458
01:17:05,907 --> 01:17:09,227
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, well, look, I think that everyone's on the Seahawks.

1459
01:17:09,307 --> 01:17:12,227
Speaker 15: They think they are pretty much the laydown sort of

1460
01:17:12,267 --> 01:17:16,667
Speaker 15: favorites to win it. Sam Darnold as a quarterback who

1461
01:17:16,667 --> 01:17:19,467
Speaker 15: I interviewed way back in his USC days, which is

1462
01:17:19,667 --> 01:17:23,107
Speaker 15: a University of Southern California in La when he was

1463
01:17:23,107 --> 01:17:26,267
Speaker 15: just a young hopeful. He had a checkered career, really

1464
01:17:26,547 --> 01:17:30,347
Speaker 15: known for throwing intercepts. But now he's led them all

1465
01:17:30,347 --> 01:17:32,987
Speaker 15: the way to the Super Bowl. That's the Seattle Seahawks.

1466
01:17:33,107 --> 01:17:34,787
Speaker 15: On the other side is Drake May one of the

1467
01:17:34,787 --> 01:17:38,267
Speaker 15: best running quarterbacks you at to see the New England Patriots.

1468
01:17:38,267 --> 01:17:40,907
Speaker 15: It's a different team to what Tom Brady ever went

1469
01:17:40,987 --> 01:17:43,667
Speaker 15: to the Super Bowl with. They are the underdogs. But

1470
01:17:44,307 --> 01:17:46,747
Speaker 15: I don't know. For some reason, I just like this

1471
01:17:46,987 --> 01:17:50,667
Speaker 15: Drake May story for me. I think he was so

1472
01:17:50,787 --> 01:17:53,187
Speaker 15: close to winning MVP for the He just missed out

1473
01:17:53,227 --> 01:17:57,827
Speaker 15: on the NFL MVP for the season to Matthew Stafford

1474
01:17:57,827 --> 01:18:00,027
Speaker 15: of the Rams and other quarterbacks. So I wonder whether

1475
01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:04,587
Speaker 15: this is his statement game. So look, it's too hard

1476
01:18:04,627 --> 01:18:07,467
Speaker 15: to pick for me, really, At least this is the

1477
01:18:07,467 --> 01:18:10,107
Speaker 15: first time I've seen the Patriots go to the Super

1478
01:18:10,107 --> 01:18:11,267
Speaker 15: Bowl as underdogs.

1479
01:18:11,307 --> 01:18:14,307
Speaker 2: Indeed, well, I always defer to my son on these matters.

1480
01:18:14,347 --> 01:18:16,907
Speaker 2: He's a big NFL fan, I asked him. I said,

1481
01:18:17,067 --> 01:18:20,347
Speaker 2: I'm speaking to James mcconey about Super Bowl. Who are

1482
01:18:20,347 --> 01:18:22,027
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks and how do they match up? He said,

1483
01:18:22,067 --> 01:18:24,507
Speaker 2: Drake May, Sam Duneld both had pretty good years. Drake

1484
01:18:24,547 --> 01:18:27,467
Speaker 2: May second and MVP voting some Sam Duneld not even

1485
01:18:27,507 --> 01:18:29,467
Speaker 2: in the top five, but he has better weapons around

1486
01:18:29,507 --> 01:18:31,987
Speaker 2: than Drake May does. I think Seahawks win not because

1487
01:18:31,987 --> 01:18:34,307
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks, just because they're better all round. Good

1488
01:18:34,347 --> 01:18:35,667
Speaker 2: summary from Johnny Pine.

1489
01:18:36,347 --> 01:18:38,547
Speaker 15: Johnny Pine is on the money there. I think Johnny

1490
01:18:38,947 --> 01:18:40,987
Speaker 15: Pine is safe with there. Look that they do. He

1491
01:18:41,027 --> 01:18:44,507
Speaker 15: does have weapons, great running backs as well. They're including

1492
01:18:44,867 --> 01:18:47,507
Speaker 15: a Kiwi born player whose name escapes me. So please

1493
01:18:48,147 --> 01:18:50,347
Speaker 15: have a look at that Piney. I'm buzzing around Sky

1494
01:18:50,387 --> 01:18:52,867
Speaker 15: at the moment because the Breakdown is on tonight. First

1495
01:18:53,067 --> 01:18:56,067
Speaker 15: show of the season is on Sky, and you know

1496
01:18:56,147 --> 01:18:58,627
Speaker 15: we've got a lot of stuff on the Razor drama

1497
01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:01,787
Speaker 15: and who might be next All Black's coach, So forgive me,

1498
01:19:01,827 --> 01:19:03,627
Speaker 15: I haven't got all my notes in front of me.

1499
01:19:03,667 --> 01:19:07,187
Speaker 15: But yes, perhaps I think Johnny Pine are pretty accurate.

1500
01:19:07,267 --> 01:19:10,067
Speaker 2: We're just on super right b. We've had all six

1501
01:19:10,147 --> 01:19:13,387
Speaker 2: New Zealand based franchises represented across the weekend here on

1502
01:19:13,427 --> 01:19:16,507
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport with their coaches and sometimes their assistant coaches.

1503
01:19:16,707 --> 01:19:18,907
Speaker 2: When are your chiefs going to win one of these things?

1504
01:19:19,587 --> 01:19:23,987
Speaker 15: Yeah? When it's a really good question, Poney, you know,

1505
01:19:24,107 --> 01:19:28,867
Speaker 15: like this should be the Chiefs year, right, We've got

1506
01:19:28,947 --> 01:19:32,387
Speaker 15: all the weapons coming back. We're only missing Shooter Stevenson,

1507
01:19:32,427 --> 01:19:35,627
Speaker 15: but we've replaced them with attending none nice. So tuitor

1508
01:19:35,707 --> 01:19:38,627
Speaker 15: or Kaira and talmoysflow on at fifteen Jersey. I think

1509
01:19:39,027 --> 01:19:43,067
Speaker 15: across the board there's strength. You know, we've got locks emerging,

1510
01:19:43,107 --> 01:19:46,027
Speaker 15: like Dylan Etty, who's going to push Josh Lord and

1511
01:19:46,587 --> 01:19:49,667
Speaker 15: tuopo Y in that department. I think the props is

1512
01:19:49,707 --> 01:19:53,187
Speaker 15: probably the one part where the Chiefs have struggled in

1513
01:19:53,307 --> 01:19:55,987
Speaker 15: recent times. And obviously when you play the final in

1514
01:19:56,107 --> 01:19:58,347
Speaker 15: late June, you do need that type five to be

1515
01:19:58,427 --> 01:20:00,787
Speaker 15: rock solid. But yes, I do like the Chiefs. Forget

1516
01:20:00,827 --> 01:20:04,187
Speaker 15: that result yesterday against the Hurricanes, Poney, twenty nine to

1517
01:20:04,227 --> 01:20:07,147
Speaker 15: zero to the Chiefs. It's just practic. This we're talking

1518
01:20:07,147 --> 01:20:08,067
Speaker 15: about practice.

1519
01:20:08,267 --> 01:20:10,267
Speaker 2: The nill is the problem for me though, you know,

1520
01:20:10,387 --> 01:20:13,307
Speaker 2: in a preseason game, to get nill, I don't know,

1521
01:20:13,787 --> 01:20:14,227
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1522
01:20:15,187 --> 01:20:19,067
Speaker 15: Well, look, I think the Hurricanes at full strength. You've

1523
01:20:19,067 --> 01:20:22,427
Speaker 15: got Josh Morby back, You've got Jordy Barrett back, and

1524
01:20:22,547 --> 01:20:25,907
Speaker 15: Ruben Love sliding into ten, getting those minutes up, you know,

1525
01:20:26,027 --> 01:20:29,147
Speaker 15: getting a couple of easy wins against Western Force or

1526
01:20:29,147 --> 01:20:32,307
Speaker 15: whoever you want. I think by the time that May

1527
01:20:32,387 --> 01:20:35,027
Speaker 15: June rolls around, that combo will be legit. And of

1528
01:20:35,067 --> 01:20:37,787
Speaker 15: course you do have cam roy Guard, who I'm sorry.

1529
01:20:37,867 --> 01:20:40,227
Speaker 15: I know that Antonin du Ponk gets all the press

1530
01:20:40,267 --> 01:20:42,187
Speaker 15: and all the lovers being the best half back in

1531
01:20:42,187 --> 01:20:44,387
Speaker 15: the world. But give me cam roy Guard any day

1532
01:20:44,387 --> 01:20:44,747
Speaker 15: of the week.

1533
01:20:44,867 --> 01:20:47,267
Speaker 2: You won't get an argument from me. George Hallani is

1534
01:20:47,307 --> 01:20:50,747
Speaker 2: your man, the New Zealand born American running back for

1535
01:20:50,787 --> 01:20:53,387
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. He's your key week connection. There you go.

1536
01:20:53,987 --> 01:20:56,187
Speaker 15: Thank you very much Piney, great research, and thank you

1537
01:20:56,307 --> 01:20:59,107
Speaker 15: Johnny Pine for coming through as well with some great analysis.

1538
01:20:59,147 --> 01:21:01,227
Speaker 2: Good on you, James. Good to get you made at a

1539
01:21:01,267 --> 01:21:04,107
Speaker 2: very busy time for you. Appreciate your time as always,

1540
01:21:04,147 --> 01:21:08,227
Speaker 2: James mcconey. Craig goes wild across your social's Sky Sport

1541
01:21:08,267 --> 01:21:11,147
Speaker 2: as well and a regular contributor here on Weekend Sport.

1542
01:21:11,347 --> 01:21:13,147
Speaker 2: In about an hour or so, we'll get you to

1543
01:21:13,307 --> 01:21:17,347
Speaker 2: the United States for our Super Bowl preview. Mark Peared,

1544
01:21:17,387 --> 01:21:20,107
Speaker 2: who you might remember as a former colleague here on

1545
01:21:20,347 --> 01:21:22,827
Speaker 2: News Talks here began Radio Sport, is there on the

1546
01:21:22,827 --> 01:21:25,347
Speaker 2: ground he's going to join us to well to help

1547
01:21:25,387 --> 01:21:28,347
Speaker 2: us read the pulse and maybe give us his analysis

1548
01:21:28,427 --> 01:21:30,467
Speaker 2: as well. Seven and a half to two News TALKSB.

1549
01:21:31,347 --> 01:21:33,667
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

1550
01:21:33,787 --> 01:21:37,067
Speaker 1: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with

1551
01:21:37,267 --> 01:21:38,947
Speaker 1: Jason Hine News Talks B.

1552
01:21:39,267 --> 01:21:42,147
Speaker 2: From Nigel Agree as a Highlanders an All Blacks fan

1553
01:21:42,267 --> 01:21:45,587
Speaker 2: Jamie Joseph coaching both doesn't seem like a great idea.

1554
01:21:45,667 --> 01:21:48,867
Speaker 2: Opens up to many questions like conflict of interest. Yet

1555
01:21:48,947 --> 01:21:50,707
Speaker 2: bang on, Nigel, I guess we cross the bridge, as

1556
01:21:50,707 --> 01:21:53,067
Speaker 2: I say, when we come to it, Mark says Jason.

1557
01:21:53,147 --> 01:21:57,627
Speaker 2: Rochdale still top of the National League, big games with

1558
01:21:57,787 --> 01:22:00,227
Speaker 2: one in recent times. This sort of thing doesn't happen

1559
01:22:00,307 --> 01:22:02,747
Speaker 2: to Rochdale. I'm loving it up the Dale. Good on

1560
01:22:02,747 --> 01:22:04,467
Speaker 2: your Mark. I noticed that this morning a one nill

1561
01:22:04,547 --> 01:22:07,387
Speaker 2: win over Carlyle. This is the National League, the one

1562
01:22:07,427 --> 01:22:09,947
Speaker 2: below the Football League. So you win National League, you

1563
01:22:09,987 --> 01:22:14,747
Speaker 2: go into League two. So Football League in the UK.

1564
01:22:15,347 --> 01:22:21,067
Speaker 2: Rochdale top York City, Scumthorpe, Carlisle, Forrest Green and boreham

1565
01:22:21,147 --> 01:22:25,947
Speaker 2: Wood chasing them great names from the lower echelons of

1566
01:22:25,987 --> 01:22:30,107
Speaker 2: the football ecosystem In the UK. Thanks Mark, all the

1567
01:22:30,147 --> 01:22:33,107
Speaker 2: best to you. After two o'clock. Rob Walter joins us

1568
01:22:33,147 --> 01:22:36,627
Speaker 2: out of India tonight half past six. The black Caps

1569
01:22:36,627 --> 01:22:39,187
Speaker 2: first game in the T twenty World Cup, they take

1570
01:22:39,227 --> 01:22:42,467
Speaker 2: on Afghanistan. How are they shaping up? How's the team looking?

1571
01:22:42,787 --> 01:22:46,107
Speaker 2: Will also get you to Super Bowl sixty. Mark pegan

1572
01:22:46,147 --> 01:22:50,427
Speaker 2: to join us before we closely show at three.

1573
01:22:49,827 --> 01:22:52,747
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1574
01:22:53,107 --> 01:22:54,267
Speaker 1: and afterfield.

1575
01:22:54,747 --> 01:22:57,347
Speaker 4: It's all on wee jers forward with Jason.

1576
01:22:57,107 --> 01:22:59,267
Speaker 8: Vane on your home of sport.

1577
01:23:01,987 --> 01:23:04,347
Speaker 2: Hi there, welcome into Weekend Sports seven past two, the

1578
01:23:04,427 --> 01:23:06,267
Speaker 2: last hour before we hand over to Tim Beverage for

1579
01:23:06,267 --> 01:23:08,907
Speaker 2: the Sunday edition of The Weekend collect If. Rob Walls

1580
01:23:08,987 --> 01:23:11,987
Speaker 2: is standing by to chat to us from India, just

1581
01:23:12,067 --> 01:23:14,187
Speaker 2: over four hours away from the first match for the

1582
01:23:14,187 --> 01:23:16,787
Speaker 2: Black Hats of the T twenty World Cup against Afghanistan.

1583
01:23:16,827 --> 01:23:20,707
Speaker 2: How are they're shaping up? We'll get you to Los

1584
01:23:20,747 --> 01:23:25,987
Speaker 2: Angeles or Santa Clara, California actually to be more precise,

1585
01:23:26,027 --> 01:23:29,587
Speaker 2: for Super Bowl sixty said or Seahawks, New England Patriots tomorrow.

1586
01:23:30,187 --> 01:23:33,787
Speaker 2: NRL All Stars Weekend in Hamilton next Sunday. We're gonna

1587
01:23:33,947 --> 01:23:37,787
Speaker 2: cover that off and a thirteen year old Wellington golfer

1588
01:23:38,067 --> 01:23:42,267
Speaker 2: Elish Barber, will plan the women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship

1589
01:23:42,347 --> 01:23:46,027
Speaker 2: starting Thursday in Wellington. Her coach is on the show

1590
01:23:46,067 --> 01:23:47,667
Speaker 2: with us as well. You can get in touch whenever

1591
01:23:47,707 --> 01:23:50,067
Speaker 2: you're like our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine

1592
01:23:50,067 --> 01:23:53,587
Speaker 2: two nine two for texts emails to Jason at Newstalksedbig

1593
01:23:53,627 --> 01:23:55,707
Speaker 2: dot co dot n z. But with so much to

1594
01:23:55,707 --> 01:23:58,667
Speaker 2: get through, let's get into it and into what we

1595
01:23:58,747 --> 01:24:01,387
Speaker 2: normally do about this time on weekend sport, catching you

1596
01:24:01,507 --> 01:24:03,947
Speaker 2: up with some of the stuff you might have missed.

1597
01:24:04,027 --> 01:24:06,347
Speaker 2: In case you missed it, we start on the Premier League.

1598
01:24:07,107 --> 01:24:10,547
Speaker 2: A fourth win in a row for a resurgent Manchester

1599
01:24:10,667 --> 01:24:12,907
Speaker 2: United cess.

1600
01:24:12,747 --> 01:24:16,787
Speaker 8: Go waiting subdue. What's Bruno Bananez.

1601
01:24:18,147 --> 01:24:22,347
Speaker 9: Stand in for number two and that surely makes the game,

1602
01:24:22,467 --> 01:24:26,067
Speaker 9: say Bruno women knockout Love.

1603
01:24:26,427 --> 01:24:28,707
Speaker 2: A Tonal win over Tottenham seeing man you stay in

1604
01:24:28,747 --> 01:24:31,627
Speaker 2: the top four. A big win for Arsenal meantime, sees

1605
01:24:31,707 --> 01:24:34,147
Speaker 2: them continue to streak ahead of the rest of his Arsenal.

1606
01:24:33,947 --> 01:24:35,507
Speaker 8: Now looking to wrap it up in style.

1607
01:24:35,587 --> 01:24:40,747
Speaker 16: Gabrielle Martinelli daring down on goalie Rosie to Yocharez.

1608
01:24:42,787 --> 01:24:44,707
Speaker 8: Arsenal finished today.

1609
01:24:44,427 --> 01:24:49,347
Speaker 16: In style a second for Victor Ocharez. They are motoring

1610
01:24:49,547 --> 01:24:51,347
Speaker 16: at the top of the Premier League.

1611
01:24:51,707 --> 01:24:53,027
Speaker 8: Stop them if you can.

1612
01:24:53,267 --> 01:24:56,267
Speaker 2: The freenal drumming of Sunderland. The West Indies have beaten

1613
01:24:56,387 --> 01:24:59,027
Speaker 2: Scotland at the T twenty World Cup. Were then heroic

1614
01:24:59,107 --> 01:25:02,027
Speaker 2: over from Romarrio Shephard.

1615
01:25:03,307 --> 01:25:03,747
Speaker 4: And on.

1616
01:25:05,187 --> 01:25:09,787
Speaker 8: At you crossing as he got enough of this Robber.

1617
01:25:10,707 --> 01:25:14,667
Speaker 11: There's another very comfortable catch in the end for Robmin

1618
01:25:14,787 --> 01:25:22,947
Speaker 11: Powell god Us celebration city here and Calcutta. They're coming

1619
01:25:22,987 --> 01:25:27,387
Speaker 11: from everywhere to swamp from Mario Sheppard who gets a

1620
01:25:27,547 --> 01:25:33,747
Speaker 11: hat trick cos there's Jason Holder. Say listen, mate, you

1621
01:25:33,827 --> 01:25:36,707
Speaker 11: can't get four from four, now you go four from five.

1622
01:25:37,307 --> 01:25:40,867
Speaker 2: Fortfcates five balls from the Mario ship and wonderfully called

1623
01:25:40,867 --> 01:25:43,787
Speaker 2: by Danny Morrison. The Breakers have kept their faint playoff

1624
01:25:43,787 --> 01:25:45,907
Speaker 2: hopes alive in the a NBL, beating Illawarra.

1625
01:25:47,227 --> 01:25:55,507
Speaker 3: Wow easy the Hale and the Breakers back on this

1626
01:25:56,107 --> 01:25:58,947
Speaker 3: massive game for folk, saying well right now.

1627
01:25:58,827 --> 01:26:02,947
Speaker 2: It's all the New Zealand opens Friend of sixty ninety

1628
01:26:02,947 --> 01:26:04,747
Speaker 2: five Hawkland f C back at the top of the

1629
01:26:04,787 --> 01:26:06,627
Speaker 2: A League means with a home win over in the

1630
01:26:06,747 --> 01:26:07,987
Speaker 2: FC raised plenty of.

1631
01:26:07,987 --> 01:26:11,307
Speaker 17: Elevation on the cross scarcos at the farm post it towards.

1632
01:26:11,067 --> 01:26:17,787
Speaker 2: As Tana time and this night's China, but nice.

1633
01:26:17,587 --> 01:26:20,347
Speaker 12: Singing in the Jason and Wine the same fast ground

1634
01:26:21,067 --> 01:26:23,067
Speaker 12: his seventh goal of the season.

1635
01:26:23,267 --> 01:26:26,547
Speaker 2: Wonder winners Aukland FC over Sydney and finally Italy kicking

1636
01:26:26,547 --> 01:26:29,307
Speaker 2: off their Six Nations rugby campaign with a famous win

1637
01:26:29,387 --> 01:26:30,067
Speaker 2: over Scotland.

1638
01:26:30,427 --> 01:26:33,707
Speaker 17: Want a finish to this bos This would be Scotland

1639
01:26:33,747 --> 01:26:37,827
Speaker 17: could snatch a triumph victory three four handling of attention

1640
01:26:37,987 --> 01:26:40,787
Speaker 17: by Scotland Williamson cove hold.

1641
01:26:40,547 --> 01:26:45,187
Speaker 18: Over the ground? Can they hold head the good?

1642
01:26:45,627 --> 01:26:49,067
Speaker 8: Yesday Time Journey.

1643
01:26:50,667 --> 01:26:54,827
Speaker 17: Have won their targans half feet in Scotland.

1644
01:26:56,747 --> 01:26:59,387
Speaker 1: The scoop from the track field and the court on

1645
01:26:59,547 --> 01:27:02,987
Speaker 1: your home of sport. Weeke in sport with Jason Vine,

1646
01:27:03,147 --> 01:27:03,787
Speaker 1: you talks in.

1647
01:27:03,827 --> 01:27:06,347
Speaker 2: Me eleven past two. The T twenty World Cup under

1648
01:27:06,427 --> 01:27:08,947
Speaker 2: way Wednesday night for Pakistan, the West Indies as you

1649
01:27:08,987 --> 01:27:12,547
Speaker 2: heard there and hosts India. New Zealand's first game is

1650
01:27:12,587 --> 01:27:16,867
Speaker 2: tonight against Afghanistan. Black Caps coach Rob Walters with us, Rob,

1651
01:27:16,907 --> 01:27:20,147
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. Is it most likely you'll land

1652
01:27:20,747 --> 01:27:23,347
Speaker 2: on a beast eleven and try to use that eleven

1653
01:27:23,747 --> 01:27:26,547
Speaker 2: pretty much the entire way across this tournament.

1654
01:27:28,147 --> 01:27:31,187
Speaker 19: I think we've got a pretty clear idea of you know,

1655
01:27:31,747 --> 01:27:34,627
Speaker 19: of a best eleven. However, the best eleven will change,

1656
01:27:34,667 --> 01:27:38,947
Speaker 19: There's no doubt about that. Conditions will change in India.

1657
01:27:40,107 --> 01:27:42,067
Speaker 19: You know, we wait to see what the Jeni pitch

1658
01:27:42,627 --> 01:27:46,107
Speaker 19: has to offer, the odd different soil variations in that

1659
01:27:46,187 --> 01:27:50,067
Speaker 19: pitch itself, So it depends which strip we play on. Obviously,

1660
01:27:50,187 --> 01:27:53,107
Speaker 19: you know, matching up against the opposition here and there

1661
01:27:53,147 --> 01:27:57,907
Speaker 19: in small ways. So I think we understand what our

1662
01:27:57,907 --> 01:28:00,267
Speaker 19: best eleven looks like for the conditions in front of us.

1663
01:28:00,307 --> 01:28:03,187
Speaker 19: So if the conditions changed, so will that eleven.

1664
01:28:03,987 --> 01:28:07,227
Speaker 2: How much more important does Lockie fergus And become for

1665
01:28:07,267 --> 01:28:10,027
Speaker 2: you with the withdrawal of Atamil.

1666
01:28:11,067 --> 01:28:13,387
Speaker 19: I mean he'd be important to irrespective, right, you know

1667
01:28:13,587 --> 01:28:16,507
Speaker 19: we saw in the game against India and the fifty twenty.

1668
01:28:16,547 --> 01:28:19,747
Speaker 19: You know, just that extra pace and the impact that

1669
01:28:19,787 --> 01:28:23,987
Speaker 19: it has on the game. So there's certainly you know

1670
01:28:24,387 --> 01:28:27,987
Speaker 19: a competitive advantage if he's playing, and so you know,

1671
01:28:28,107 --> 01:28:30,787
Speaker 19: to have him fit, firing and ready will be massively

1672
01:28:30,787 --> 01:28:32,307
Speaker 19: important for our World Cup campaign.

1673
01:28:32,907 --> 01:28:35,067
Speaker 2: Just off the back of the T twenty series against India.

1674
01:28:35,187 --> 01:28:39,267
Speaker 2: Obviously playing those matches over there extremely helpful, but pretty

1675
01:28:39,307 --> 01:28:40,747
Speaker 2: much all your bawlers took a bit of tap at

1676
01:28:40,747 --> 01:28:43,947
Speaker 2: some stage during the during the series. Is there any

1677
01:28:44,307 --> 01:28:48,147
Speaker 2: confidence rebuilding to be done among any of your bowlers.

1678
01:28:49,387 --> 01:28:52,587
Speaker 19: We stood and watch from our balcony as Sofka got

1679
01:28:52,627 --> 01:28:55,627
Speaker 19: hit for two forty last night. So it just affirmed

1680
01:28:55,627 --> 01:28:58,627
Speaker 19: that that India they're on a hot streak. From a

1681
01:28:58,667 --> 01:29:01,747
Speaker 19: batting point of view, bowlers are under pressure. The surfaces

1682
01:29:01,747 --> 01:29:03,707
Speaker 19: are pretty good. To be fair, there wasn't much in

1683
01:29:03,747 --> 01:29:06,827
Speaker 19: it to anyone watching the games. That a pretty SidD

1684
01:29:06,867 --> 01:29:10,827
Speaker 19: that and acknowledging a high level of skill. But to

1685
01:29:10,867 --> 01:29:14,027
Speaker 19: be honest, we've been very positive about what it's actually

1686
01:29:14,187 --> 01:29:16,027
Speaker 19: what a gift it is for us, you know, early

1687
01:29:16,107 --> 01:29:19,027
Speaker 19: before we even start, because it's really made us have

1688
01:29:19,147 --> 01:29:21,547
Speaker 19: to zero in on our execution, be very clear in

1689
01:29:21,587 --> 01:29:25,587
Speaker 19: our planning, and so really it's more positive than a negative.

1690
01:29:25,627 --> 01:29:27,667
Speaker 19: As much as at the time no Bola likes to

1691
01:29:27,667 --> 01:29:31,347
Speaker 19: you know, be expensive and look at his figures and

1692
01:29:31,387 --> 01:29:34,067
Speaker 19: see that, but in the broader context and an understanding

1693
01:29:34,107 --> 01:29:37,627
Speaker 19: of the conditions and ultimately, if we prepare and are

1694
01:29:37,667 --> 01:29:40,427
Speaker 19: able to manage, you know, that scenario, then we're probably

1695
01:29:40,467 --> 01:29:42,867
Speaker 19: able to manage most of the other teams in this competition.

1696
01:29:43,587 --> 01:29:46,227
Speaker 2: And given the makeup of your group and the only

1697
01:29:46,267 --> 01:29:49,507
Speaker 2: to go through to the super rights, how important is

1698
01:29:49,547 --> 01:29:53,147
Speaker 2: the first game against Afghanistan? How crucial is it that

1699
01:29:53,227 --> 01:29:55,467
Speaker 2: you get a win in that first match?

1700
01:29:56,027 --> 01:29:58,187
Speaker 19: Yeah, I suppose you don't have to be a mathematician

1701
01:29:58,187 --> 01:30:02,227
Speaker 19: to work it after it's a massively important game. And

1702
01:30:03,227 --> 01:30:05,667
Speaker 19: I mean, look, there's obviously a number of scenarios that's

1703
01:30:05,667 --> 01:30:08,427
Speaker 19: still you know, come with after the first game, so

1704
01:30:08,467 --> 01:30:10,787
Speaker 19: it's not the bill and end all, but I think

1705
01:30:10,827 --> 01:30:12,587
Speaker 19: it really fits in well with how we try and

1706
01:30:12,627 --> 01:30:15,067
Speaker 19: manage ourselves as a team, and it's just paying very

1707
01:30:15,067 --> 01:30:17,387
Speaker 19: specific attention to the game that's in front of us

1708
01:30:17,387 --> 01:30:20,427
Speaker 19: and not looking too far ahead or thinking too much

1709
01:30:20,427 --> 01:30:23,147
Speaker 19: about the future, because it becomes irrelevant if you don't

1710
01:30:23,187 --> 01:30:25,747
Speaker 19: take care of the very next game. You know, So

1711
01:30:25,907 --> 01:30:29,547
Speaker 19: for us, the Afghanistan game is important, but whoever it

1712
01:30:29,667 --> 01:30:31,227
Speaker 19: was in game one was going to be our most

1713
01:30:31,227 --> 01:30:35,147
Speaker 19: important fixture. So so they've just worked out really well together.

1714
01:30:35,267 --> 01:30:38,707
Speaker 19: You know, we can make, you know, make an importance

1715
01:30:38,747 --> 01:30:41,187
Speaker 19: of game one because it is important but that's that's

1716
01:30:41,227 --> 01:30:42,747
Speaker 19: our focus would be anyway.

1717
01:30:42,547 --> 01:30:44,627
Speaker 2: Three year First four games or three year pol games

1718
01:30:44,627 --> 01:30:46,867
Speaker 2: are in Chennai. Have you got to handle on Chennai?

1719
01:30:46,867 --> 01:30:49,107
Speaker 2: What is it? Is it a two forty track? What

1720
01:30:49,147 --> 01:30:51,267
Speaker 2: do you expect from the Chennai wicket?

1721
01:30:51,987 --> 01:30:54,347
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I suppose, as I said earlier, you know,

1722
01:30:54,547 --> 01:31:00,507
Speaker 19: you can get varied conditions in Chennai. We play two

1723
01:31:00,627 --> 01:31:04,227
Speaker 19: day games in an afternoon game there again, so you

1724
01:31:04,267 --> 01:31:06,307
Speaker 19: know when the IPL happens, it's a little bit late

1725
01:31:06,547 --> 01:31:08,627
Speaker 19: in the year. And they are also all night games

1726
01:31:08,707 --> 01:31:11,267
Speaker 19: or a four pm game, so so you know that's

1727
01:31:11,307 --> 01:31:14,107
Speaker 19: also influential. The due has been quite significant in the

1728
01:31:14,187 --> 01:31:16,907
Speaker 19: night times here and that won't play a part in

1729
01:31:16,987 --> 01:31:20,667
Speaker 19: those those day and afternoon games, which is obviously a positive.

1730
01:31:22,507 --> 01:31:24,867
Speaker 19: And then you know, history tells you that actually the

1731
01:31:24,947 --> 01:31:27,867
Speaker 19: Chenai surface has changed a little bit. If we look

1732
01:31:27,867 --> 01:31:29,507
Speaker 19: at you know, how the IPL has gone in the

1733
01:31:29,587 --> 01:31:32,467
Speaker 19: last couple of years, and it's actually a little bit

1734
01:31:32,467 --> 01:31:34,387
Speaker 19: more balanced. To played a game they were safe in

1735
01:31:34,507 --> 01:31:36,987
Speaker 19: the twenty twenty three World Cup against Pakistein it was

1736
01:31:37,027 --> 01:31:39,187
Speaker 19: actually good pace and barns in that pitch on that day,

1737
01:31:39,307 --> 01:31:40,267
Speaker 19: albeit a couple.

1738
01:31:40,107 --> 01:31:40,667
Speaker 8: Of years ago.

1739
01:31:40,827 --> 01:31:45,907
Speaker 19: So yeah, much like when you're touring India and playing

1740
01:31:45,907 --> 01:31:47,907
Speaker 19: in India have to be prepared for, you know, sort

1741
01:31:47,947 --> 01:31:51,267
Speaker 19: of the end of the spectrum. And so we'll obviously

1742
01:31:51,307 --> 01:31:53,027
Speaker 19: get there and have a look at the pitch and

1743
01:31:53,027 --> 01:31:55,707
Speaker 19: get a rid of the pitch and hopefully sort of

1744
01:31:55,707 --> 01:31:58,827
Speaker 19: glean the information that we can from guys who know

1745
01:31:58,947 --> 01:32:02,227
Speaker 19: the surface well from their days in Chennai at Genai

1746
01:32:02,227 --> 01:32:06,867
Speaker 19: Super King. So yeah, we're ready. We're reading US four

1747
01:32:06,907 --> 01:32:10,027
Speaker 19: for anything. We're obviously hoping for a really good pitch

1748
01:32:10,787 --> 01:32:13,507
Speaker 19: with pace and buns if that was possible, and then

1749
01:32:13,507 --> 01:32:15,307
Speaker 19: we'll just respond to whatever else we get.

1750
01:32:15,867 --> 01:32:19,947
Speaker 2: Just back to the makeup of your team. Darryl Mitchell,

1751
01:32:19,987 --> 01:32:23,147
Speaker 2: from the look of the T twenty series against India,

1752
01:32:23,627 --> 01:32:25,467
Speaker 2: is going to play that closure role for you. May

1753
01:32:25,467 --> 01:32:28,067
Speaker 2: be bad at five even six. How important will he

1754
01:32:28,147 --> 01:32:29,307
Speaker 2: be for you in that role?

1755
01:32:30,347 --> 01:32:31,987
Speaker 19: Yeah, look, he's massively important.

1756
01:32:32,067 --> 01:32:34,867
Speaker 8: I think it. Excuse me.

1757
01:32:34,947 --> 01:32:37,427
Speaker 19: We know obviously you know the quality of player that

1758
01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:41,667
Speaker 19: it is for me. He's obviously got that strength and power,

1759
01:32:41,707 --> 01:32:44,067
Speaker 19: but he also reads the game well. He understands where

1760
01:32:44,107 --> 01:32:46,867
Speaker 19: the game's at, and I think it's critically important for

1761
01:32:46,907 --> 01:32:49,547
Speaker 19: the back end of the innings just to understand you

1762
01:32:49,547 --> 01:32:52,827
Speaker 19: know what is required. You know, there's a chance for

1763
01:32:52,907 --> 01:32:54,787
Speaker 19: him to come up the order if we try and

1764
01:32:54,827 --> 01:32:57,827
Speaker 19: have a left right combination based on the opposition and you

1765
01:32:57,827 --> 01:33:00,467
Speaker 19: know what sort of different bowling options they have. So

1766
01:33:00,987 --> 01:33:03,347
Speaker 19: it is fairly fluid there, you know, in the number

1767
01:33:03,427 --> 01:33:06,427
Speaker 19: five six position. But you know it's you know, you

1768
01:33:06,467 --> 01:33:08,947
Speaker 19: can't buy that experience and then obviously the skill set

1769
01:33:08,987 --> 01:33:12,627
Speaker 19: that he brings to the party. So as with anything

1770
01:33:12,627 --> 01:33:15,267
Speaker 19: you know Australia, it's the sum of the parts that

1771
01:33:15,427 --> 01:33:17,507
Speaker 19: sort of get our best best side and the best

1772
01:33:17,507 --> 01:33:18,587
Speaker 19: performing team together.

1773
01:33:18,867 --> 01:33:20,747
Speaker 2: There was a joke over the summer mainly from Devin

1774
01:33:20,787 --> 01:33:24,467
Speaker 2: Conway actually that Rich and Ravendra only performs and ic

1775
01:33:24,707 --> 01:33:28,347
Speaker 2: CE tournaments. Now we're at one in conditions he's come

1776
01:33:28,387 --> 01:33:31,147
Speaker 2: to know pretty well and perform well in is he

1777
01:33:31,227 --> 01:33:32,707
Speaker 2: your main man? He's going to bet three for you

1778
01:33:32,747 --> 01:33:34,187
Speaker 2: by the looks of things, how key is right and

1779
01:33:34,267 --> 01:33:34,467
Speaker 2: going to.

1780
01:33:34,507 --> 01:33:38,587
Speaker 19: Be Look, if that is the case, long mail continue

1781
01:33:39,227 --> 01:33:41,587
Speaker 19: he can. It's as many runs as he likes and

1782
01:33:41,667 --> 01:33:46,387
Speaker 19: then this will tournament if if that's the thing. But no, look,

1783
01:33:46,787 --> 01:33:48,787
Speaker 19: I think you're in trouble if you if you're leaning

1784
01:33:48,787 --> 01:33:51,547
Speaker 19: on any one person to you know, to to be

1785
01:33:51,707 --> 01:33:54,667
Speaker 19: the lifeblood of a batting lineup. Everyone is to contribute

1786
01:33:54,707 --> 01:33:56,547
Speaker 19: in their own special way in order for the team

1787
01:33:56,587 --> 01:34:00,067
Speaker 19: to do well. You know, for me, you know Rachen,

1788
01:34:00,347 --> 01:34:02,867
Speaker 19: we we have no his quality. He showed us probably

1789
01:34:02,907 --> 01:34:06,547
Speaker 19: two windows of it in a five match series where

1790
01:34:06,587 --> 01:34:09,387
Speaker 19: he took the game on. You know, there's also an

1791
01:34:09,387 --> 01:34:11,947
Speaker 19: element of risk attached to trying to attack the back

1792
01:34:12,027 --> 01:34:13,787
Speaker 19: end of a powerplay. You know, if you lose a

1793
01:34:13,827 --> 01:34:16,787
Speaker 19: wicket in there, and you're how important it actually is.

1794
01:34:16,987 --> 01:34:19,707
Speaker 19: So there's always an element of risk to that role.

1795
01:34:20,187 --> 01:34:22,907
Speaker 19: And then if your team comes out of the power play,

1796
01:34:23,147 --> 01:34:25,147
Speaker 19: it would obviously manage you're in a good position, so

1797
01:34:25,187 --> 01:34:28,147
Speaker 19: you have to continue attacking, you know, So like we

1798
01:34:28,227 --> 01:34:31,627
Speaker 19: have to appreciate that and also appreciate his quality and

1799
01:34:31,667 --> 01:34:34,907
Speaker 19: trusted that will come through. And I suppose the other

1800
01:34:34,947 --> 01:34:37,187
Speaker 19: part that although it hasn't been used a hell of

1801
01:34:37,187 --> 01:34:40,667
Speaker 19: a lot, there's certainly opposition in our pool phase where

1802
01:34:40,707 --> 01:34:42,507
Speaker 19: we will need to use him as a bowling option,

1803
01:34:42,667 --> 01:34:45,627
Speaker 19: and I think sometimes that gets overlooked and we only

1804
01:34:45,667 --> 01:34:48,547
Speaker 19: see the batting position and forget about the rest. So

1805
01:34:49,147 --> 01:34:52,307
Speaker 19: you know, for us, there's a dual role there that

1806
01:34:52,387 --> 01:34:54,627
Speaker 19: will be important in this competition.

1807
01:34:54,267 --> 01:34:56,707
Speaker 2: And the side looks pretty settled. As you said before,

1808
01:34:56,747 --> 01:34:59,387
Speaker 2: the you know, you know pretty much what your best

1809
01:34:59,427 --> 01:35:03,107
Speaker 2: side is. Is one of your selection questions around one

1810
01:35:03,147 --> 01:35:05,747
Speaker 2: of those all rounder roles, whether it's Michael Bracewell or

1811
01:35:05,827 --> 01:35:07,667
Speaker 2: Jimmy Ni. Is that kind of a head to head

1812
01:35:08,107 --> 01:35:09,347
Speaker 2: selection decision for you?

1813
01:35:11,107 --> 01:35:15,107
Speaker 19: You know it might be. But again in saying that,

1814
01:35:15,267 --> 01:35:17,427
Speaker 19: you know, if we find ourselves in conditions where it

1815
01:35:17,427 --> 01:35:19,027
Speaker 19: looks like there's going to be a lot of turn,

1816
01:35:19,947 --> 01:35:22,667
Speaker 19: then there might be a different variation of that lineup

1817
01:35:22,707 --> 01:35:25,907
Speaker 19: to you know, to get sort of lots of spin

1818
01:35:26,027 --> 01:35:28,667
Speaker 19: options in there, you know, and so so then you

1819
01:35:28,707 --> 01:35:30,467
Speaker 19: know there might be a sort of a rejig here

1820
01:35:30,467 --> 01:35:32,827
Speaker 19: in the batting lineup, but nothing too serious. Who want

1821
01:35:32,827 --> 01:35:35,507
Speaker 19: to be fairly consistent with how our teams looking and

1822
01:35:36,067 --> 01:35:38,587
Speaker 19: guys then become aware of their roles, et cetera. So

1823
01:35:39,387 --> 01:35:41,947
Speaker 19: but yeah, I mean again, if you put the names

1824
01:35:41,947 --> 01:35:43,907
Speaker 19: down on paper and look at a different balance of

1825
01:35:43,947 --> 01:35:46,947
Speaker 19: a side where there's a semafo a spinner, it makes

1826
01:35:46,947 --> 01:35:48,427
Speaker 19: sense that it would be a conversation.

1827
01:35:48,667 --> 01:35:50,747
Speaker 2: All right, Rob, I appreciate you joining us on match day.

1828
01:35:50,747 --> 01:35:52,187
Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, all the best to you and the team.

1829
01:35:52,227 --> 01:35:54,547
Speaker 2: That's Rob Walter, head coach of the black Caps. Tonight

1830
01:35:54,627 --> 01:35:58,187
Speaker 2: six thirty they take on Afghanistan and Chennai. Tuesday night

1831
01:35:58,227 --> 01:36:02,147
Speaker 2: ten thirty New Zealand time. It's the UAE also in Chennai,

1832
01:36:02,347 --> 01:36:05,707
Speaker 2: South Africa. Next Sunday morning at two thirty am New

1833
01:36:05,787 --> 01:36:09,387
Speaker 2: Zealand time in a metabat and then Canada on Tuesday

1834
01:36:09,427 --> 01:36:12,427
Speaker 2: February seventeen, six thirty New Zealand time. Those are the

1835
01:36:12,467 --> 01:36:14,787
Speaker 2: Paul matches. Got to finish from the top two to

1836
01:36:14,827 --> 01:36:17,947
Speaker 2: go through to the Super Eights two twenty Here on

1837
01:36:17,947 --> 01:36:19,867
Speaker 2: News Talks B, we'll take a great come back and

1838
01:36:19,907 --> 01:36:23,187
Speaker 2: talk about All Stars Weekend. NRL All Stars Weekend in

1839
01:36:23,267 --> 01:36:26,867
Speaker 2: Hamilton next weekend that's next here on Weekend Sport.

1840
01:36:27,867 --> 01:36:29,107
Speaker 4: You be the TMO.

1841
01:36:29,187 --> 01:36:31,627
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1842
01:36:31,747 --> 01:36:36,467
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason him and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's

1843
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1844
01:36:37,707 --> 01:36:38,587
Speaker 4: News Talks the B.

1845
01:36:38,947 --> 01:36:42,147
Speaker 2: Two twenty three. The NRL All Stars Weekend returns to

1846
01:36:42,347 --> 01:36:47,027
Speaker 2: Hamilton next Sunday FMG Stadium, Waikatal two twenty five touch

1847
01:36:47,627 --> 01:36:50,427
Speaker 2: then at three point thirty the New Zealand Malori wa

1848
01:36:50,547 --> 01:36:54,947
Speaker 2: Heni Tour All Stars against the Australian Indigenous Women's All

1849
01:36:54,987 --> 01:36:58,227
Speaker 2: Stars and at five forty five it's the men's game.

1850
01:36:58,547 --> 01:37:02,267
Speaker 2: Paramatta Ellstar Kennedy Cherrington, We're is going to be part

1851
01:37:02,387 --> 01:37:06,787
Speaker 2: of the Mali Wahini Tour All Stars and joins us now. Well, Kennedy,

1852
01:37:06,827 --> 01:37:08,707
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time. How much you're looking forward

1853
01:37:08,707 --> 01:37:10,747
Speaker 2: to being part of this special day.

1854
01:37:10,667 --> 01:37:14,427
Speaker 20: Again, thank you for having me. Oh, I am so pumped.

1855
01:37:14,547 --> 01:37:16,907
Speaker 20: This will be my first time ever playing back home

1856
01:37:16,907 --> 01:37:19,907
Speaker 20: and al Unfortunately in the past I've missed all the

1857
01:37:20,467 --> 01:37:22,867
Speaker 20: games that have been here, so yeah, I'm keen to

1858
01:37:23,187 --> 01:37:25,587
Speaker 20: come back and play on my FINUA outstanding.

1859
01:37:25,627 --> 01:37:28,227
Speaker 2: I think you played in this fixture previously though, didn't

1860
01:37:28,227 --> 01:37:30,187
Speaker 2: you the I think twenty twenty one you played and

1861
01:37:30,307 --> 01:37:31,427
Speaker 2: was that your first one?

1862
01:37:32,027 --> 01:37:33,467
Speaker 20: Yes, that was my first one. This will be my

1863
01:37:33,587 --> 01:37:34,987
Speaker 20: fifth All Stars campaign.

1864
01:37:35,027 --> 01:37:39,267
Speaker 21: I'm getting old now, but yeah, I'm just really looking forward.

1865
01:37:39,307 --> 01:37:41,787
Speaker 20: I was so I was so stoked that the fixture

1866
01:37:41,827 --> 01:37:44,387
Speaker 20: got announced in White Cuts all such a hearty area.

1867
01:37:45,107 --> 01:37:46,747
Speaker 21: Keen to see what they put on for us.

1868
01:37:47,067 --> 01:37:50,387
Speaker 2: You've played both rugby union and rugby league obviously, you

1869
01:37:50,427 --> 01:37:54,147
Speaker 2: know across a long, a long career how do you

1870
01:37:54,187 --> 01:37:56,907
Speaker 2: find the switch between the two and in this league

1871
01:37:57,027 --> 01:37:59,427
Speaker 2: your absolute preference or do you still have that hankering

1872
01:37:59,467 --> 01:38:01,227
Speaker 2: for the fifteen a side game.

1873
01:38:01,827 --> 01:38:03,947
Speaker 20: Yeah, so I started playing rugby league when I was

1874
01:38:03,987 --> 01:38:06,947
Speaker 20: ten and then obviously growing up in a streight, the

1875
01:38:06,987 --> 01:38:10,107
Speaker 20: Ossie sevens won the gold medal at Rio Olympics and

1876
01:38:10,387 --> 01:38:12,947
Speaker 20: you know, for high schoolers like me that are aspiring

1877
01:38:12,987 --> 01:38:16,307
Speaker 20: to be female athletes, it kicked off big time in Australia.

1878
01:38:16,387 --> 01:38:18,787
Speaker 20: So that's when I made the switch to sevens and

1879
01:38:18,827 --> 01:38:22,387
Speaker 20: fifteen's and it was actually, you know, comparing the two

1880
01:38:22,427 --> 01:38:24,747
Speaker 20: looking at them now, it was probably the tackle tech

1881
01:38:24,867 --> 01:38:26,147
Speaker 20: was the most difficult.

1882
01:38:25,787 --> 01:38:29,347
Speaker 21: Thing to get my head around with rugby league versus union.

1883
01:38:30,147 --> 01:38:32,547
Speaker 20: I do think it's easier coming from union to league

1884
01:38:32,627 --> 01:38:35,707
Speaker 20: than league to union, just rules wise. Obviously union's a

1885
01:38:35,747 --> 01:38:38,387
Speaker 20: lot more in depth than a territorial game. It's hard

1886
01:38:38,427 --> 01:38:40,707
Speaker 20: to get your head around where rugby league's just quite simple,

1887
01:38:40,747 --> 01:38:43,507
Speaker 20: but you know, not downplaying the game, but yet I

1888
01:38:43,547 --> 01:38:47,187
Speaker 20: think it's a lot more physical in that sense. So yeah,

1889
01:38:47,307 --> 01:38:49,827
Speaker 20: I've learned to play both, but I do miss rugby

1890
01:38:49,947 --> 01:38:51,987
Speaker 20: union a bit of ball in hand for the backs

1891
01:38:51,987 --> 01:38:52,427
Speaker 20: as well.

1892
01:38:52,707 --> 01:38:56,027
Speaker 2: I love that state of origin. You've played that obviously

1893
01:38:56,107 --> 01:38:58,627
Speaker 2: you've been in the nrl W for a while. It's

1894
01:38:58,667 --> 01:39:02,467
Speaker 2: a cool time, isn't it for for certainly females in

1895
01:39:02,467 --> 01:39:04,387
Speaker 2: the sport of rugby league. Do you feel like it's

1896
01:39:04,387 --> 01:39:05,547
Speaker 2: only going to grow from here?

1897
01:39:06,387 --> 01:39:06,467
Speaker 7: Oh?

1898
01:39:07,427 --> 01:39:09,587
Speaker 20: Like I'm I'm actually a part of the r LP,

1899
01:39:09,747 --> 01:39:13,347
Speaker 20: a board that that speaks on behalf of the players

1900
01:39:13,387 --> 01:39:16,147
Speaker 20: to the NRLs. So just to see the growth, you know,

1901
01:39:16,267 --> 01:39:18,267
Speaker 20: this is my sixty year of the NLW and to

1902
01:39:18,307 --> 01:39:20,907
Speaker 20: see where it's gone and justin six years as a professional,

1903
01:39:20,987 --> 01:39:23,987
Speaker 20: semi professional sport has been outstanding, and you know the

1904
01:39:23,987 --> 01:39:26,947
Speaker 20: next five years is going to be even better. You know,

1905
01:39:27,067 --> 01:39:29,387
Speaker 20: standalone games for state of Ogin we're looking at twenty

1906
01:39:29,387 --> 01:39:33,107
Speaker 20: to thirty thousand participants for a standalone game and the

1907
01:39:33,187 --> 01:39:36,867
Speaker 20: nlw's just going to different heights every season. Obviously, expansions

1908
01:39:36,907 --> 01:39:39,227
Speaker 20: has helped and all the NRL clubs are backing to

1909
01:39:39,267 --> 01:39:42,467
Speaker 20: have an NROLW team, so you know, to see I

1910
01:39:42,547 --> 01:39:44,387
Speaker 20: want him to have a team, you know. But the

1911
01:39:44,427 --> 01:39:46,467
Speaker 20: Warriors coming back into the fold, I think that's helped

1912
01:39:46,467 --> 01:39:49,907
Speaker 20: the growth massively and to be at the forefront of

1913
01:39:50,067 --> 01:39:53,947
Speaker 20: leading the woman's game. It's just it's just massive, and

1914
01:39:53,987 --> 01:39:56,427
Speaker 20: you know there's so much responsibility we hold on our

1915
01:39:56,467 --> 01:39:58,867
Speaker 20: shoulders as what he needs to make this pathway a

1916
01:39:58,907 --> 01:40:01,027
Speaker 20: realistic pathway for our young woman coming.

1917
01:40:00,787 --> 01:40:03,027
Speaker 2: Through, absolutely standing any chances we'll get you over here

1918
01:40:03,027 --> 01:40:04,587
Speaker 2: to play for the Warriors or is that not going

1919
01:40:04,627 --> 01:40:05,027
Speaker 2: to happen?

1920
01:40:06,027 --> 01:40:09,707
Speaker 20: Yeah, you know a lot of people have thoughts, have

1921
01:40:09,787 --> 01:40:12,827
Speaker 20: said otherwise to come over. And you know, when I

1922
01:40:12,867 --> 01:40:15,147
Speaker 20: was younger, I was I am a I am a

1923
01:40:15,147 --> 01:40:17,907
Speaker 20: proud Warrior support of course you have to be being Maldi,

1924
01:40:18,027 --> 01:40:21,387
Speaker 20: But yeah, at the moment, my heart still lies with Paramatta.

1925
01:40:21,387 --> 01:40:23,747
Speaker 21: I've seen that I've grown that club from the ground up.

1926
01:40:23,827 --> 01:40:26,827
Speaker 20: So you know, maybe who knows what happens one day,

1927
01:40:27,427 --> 01:40:29,227
Speaker 20: we'll just have to wait till then.

1928
01:40:29,547 --> 01:40:31,547
Speaker 2: Well, the door will always be open over the side

1929
01:40:31,547 --> 01:40:34,107
Speaker 2: of the test, but I can tell you that for nothing.

1930
01:40:34,227 --> 01:40:36,227
Speaker 2: Where do you see the big growth areas you talked

1931
01:40:36,227 --> 01:40:38,307
Speaker 2: about being an advocate for the game with the NRL,

1932
01:40:38,707 --> 01:40:41,267
Speaker 2: You know, how big can it get? And where are

1933
01:40:41,307 --> 01:40:43,907
Speaker 2: the areas that you would really like to see improvement

1934
01:40:43,947 --> 01:40:45,267
Speaker 2: over the next five ten years or so.

1935
01:40:46,027 --> 01:40:48,867
Speaker 21: Well, you know you've got the fuxture with Vegas.

1936
01:40:48,867 --> 01:40:52,667
Speaker 20: I do think that's like an unforeseen growth area. You know,

1937
01:40:52,707 --> 01:40:55,787
Speaker 20: with rugby league, it's such a limited audience because where

1938
01:40:55,867 --> 01:40:58,667
Speaker 20: you know, all the men's sports are competing for players

1939
01:40:58,667 --> 01:41:01,507
Speaker 20: and juniors and everything. Where women's sport, every every woman

1940
01:41:01,547 --> 01:41:04,107
Speaker 20: can play anything like, it's such a realistic thing to

1941
01:41:04,187 --> 01:41:06,787
Speaker 20: do with any sports. So I just I think that,

1942
01:41:07,267 --> 01:41:09,627
Speaker 20: you know, with the American audience, maybe we could happen

1943
01:41:09,667 --> 01:41:13,187
Speaker 20: to that even parts of Western Australia and northern territories

1944
01:41:13,307 --> 01:41:16,307
Speaker 20: untap talent there. Obviously here in Old Tid I don't

1945
01:41:16,347 --> 01:41:19,827
Speaker 20: think we've really capitalized on you know, those country kids

1946
01:41:19,827 --> 01:41:22,467
Speaker 20: that are bloody living off the land out on you know,

1947
01:41:22,547 --> 01:41:24,467
Speaker 20: in the middle of nowhere, that we can you know,

1948
01:41:24,507 --> 01:41:26,827
Speaker 20: pick up and make great rugby league players. I know

1949
01:41:26,907 --> 01:41:29,987
Speaker 20: it's obviously competitive for rugby union over here, but if

1950
01:41:30,067 --> 01:41:32,507
Speaker 20: you know we're leading number one in rugby union, why

1951
01:41:32,507 --> 01:41:35,187
Speaker 20: can't we why can't they lead you know, number two

1952
01:41:35,227 --> 01:41:36,267
Speaker 20: in rugby league over here?

1953
01:41:36,347 --> 01:41:38,507
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, and there are a lot of options now

1954
01:41:38,507 --> 01:41:40,427
Speaker 2: for young women on both sides of the Tasman to

1955
01:41:40,787 --> 01:41:42,827
Speaker 2: to have a professional pathway. I'm sure you know this

1956
01:41:42,907 --> 01:41:46,627
Speaker 2: has an escaped your attention. Football obviously, cricket Australian rules

1957
01:41:46,627 --> 01:41:48,907
Speaker 2: football on the Australian side of the Tasman Rugby Union

1958
01:41:49,147 --> 01:41:52,387
Speaker 2: Rugby League. I guess it's it's fantastic, isn't it. But

1959
01:41:52,427 --> 01:41:54,987
Speaker 2: it's still quite competitive to turn the heads of the

1960
01:41:55,027 --> 01:41:57,307
Speaker 2: most talented young female athletes.

1961
01:41:58,107 --> 01:42:00,267
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's definitely getting there.

1962
01:42:00,267 --> 01:42:01,667
Speaker 20: You know, we just have to keep putting up a

1963
01:42:01,707 --> 01:42:04,787
Speaker 20: big you know, those big games and putting the best

1964
01:42:04,827 --> 01:42:08,787
Speaker 20: product on show and just marketing for our women. You know,

1965
01:42:08,827 --> 01:42:11,187
Speaker 20: we want more standalone games, but we also want to

1966
01:42:11,267 --> 01:42:13,987
Speaker 20: use the men's as like a double header and just

1967
01:42:14,067 --> 01:42:15,467
Speaker 20: using those opportunities to grow.

1968
01:42:15,547 --> 01:42:18,467
Speaker 21: Like I do see an opportunity to combine maybe.

1969
01:42:18,347 --> 01:42:20,867
Speaker 20: Game three of them women's state of origin and gain

1970
01:42:20,947 --> 01:42:22,987
Speaker 20: one of the men's that of origin, just to have

1971
01:42:23,067 --> 01:42:24,787
Speaker 20: those you know, a day out of the foot and

1972
01:42:25,307 --> 01:42:26,707
Speaker 20: double head of for state of oversion.

1973
01:42:26,747 --> 01:42:28,427
Speaker 21: Like what an opportunity that could be, and.

1974
01:42:28,627 --> 01:42:31,667
Speaker 20: Even more double head of test match with the Kiwiferns.

1975
01:42:31,747 --> 01:42:33,867
Speaker 20: And I just think there's so much opportunity that we

1976
01:42:33,947 --> 01:42:36,947
Speaker 20: haven't tried to set that we could really capitalize on,

1977
01:42:37,067 --> 01:42:38,667
Speaker 20: Like these are our growth years and these are the

1978
01:42:38,667 --> 01:42:39,867
Speaker 20: times that we could.

1979
01:42:41,227 --> 01:42:43,347
Speaker 21: Really really try some things. Because it's like in its

1980
01:42:43,467 --> 01:42:44,427
Speaker 21: guinea pig areas.

1981
01:42:44,667 --> 01:42:48,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, amazing. Your uncle, the late Norm Berryman, absolute

1982
01:42:48,707 --> 01:42:52,627
Speaker 2: cult hero and rugby over here. Yeah, did he have

1983
01:42:52,947 --> 01:42:54,107
Speaker 2: an influence over you.

1984
01:42:55,107 --> 01:42:56,827
Speaker 21: Yeah, So we grew up together in Perth.

1985
01:42:57,147 --> 01:42:59,227
Speaker 20: I went to school with his kids and you know

1986
01:42:59,267 --> 01:43:00,787
Speaker 20: he's far now from up North, so.

1987
01:43:01,227 --> 01:43:04,187
Speaker 21: He Yeah, he was always like one of the loudest

1988
01:43:04,187 --> 01:43:04,787
Speaker 21: supporters for.

1989
01:43:04,867 --> 01:43:07,907
Speaker 20: Me on the sideline and he just had big aspirations

1990
01:43:07,907 --> 01:43:10,107
Speaker 20: that you know, I could I could do anything, and

1991
01:43:10,147 --> 01:43:12,027
Speaker 20: he instilled that confidence in me.

1992
01:43:12,187 --> 01:43:14,947
Speaker 21: So back then it was a rugby dream.

1993
01:43:14,987 --> 01:43:17,827
Speaker 20: But you know it's still the same shape ball, just

1994
01:43:17,867 --> 01:43:21,347
Speaker 20: a different it's a different league rule set. But now

1995
01:43:21,347 --> 01:43:23,507
Speaker 20: he played a massive part and you miss him very

1996
01:43:23,587 --> 01:43:26,907
Speaker 20: very much, and you know he left such a such

1997
01:43:26,907 --> 01:43:30,547
Speaker 20: an empty piece when he left. But obviously, yeah, I

1998
01:43:30,587 --> 01:43:33,027
Speaker 20: just want to keep making him proud and keep doing

1999
01:43:33,027 --> 01:43:33,267
Speaker 20: my thing.

2000
01:43:33,547 --> 01:43:36,467
Speaker 2: I bet you, I bet you are absolute hero and

2001
01:43:36,707 --> 01:43:39,547
Speaker 2: as I say, an icon, a cult figure over here

2002
01:43:39,547 --> 01:43:42,187
Speaker 2: at Norm Bearriman Kennedy can't wait to see you at

2003
01:43:42,187 --> 01:43:46,067
Speaker 2: all NRL All Stars Weekend on Sunday, February fifteen. Thanks

2004
01:43:46,067 --> 01:43:47,507
Speaker 2: for taking the time for a chat.

2005
01:43:48,067 --> 01:43:48,747
Speaker 21: Thank you, Thank you.

2006
01:43:48,787 --> 01:43:50,747
Speaker 20: Make sure everyone gets down there, you know, and there's

2007
01:43:50,747 --> 01:43:52,507
Speaker 20: three games on from the touch to the woman's of

2008
01:43:52,507 --> 01:43:52,747
Speaker 20: the men.

2009
01:43:52,867 --> 01:43:53,987
Speaker 21: So it's a day out for the fun.

2010
01:43:53,907 --> 01:43:57,227
Speaker 2: Though awesome stuff. Thanks Kennedy. That is Kennedy Cherrington part

2011
01:43:57,267 --> 01:44:01,067
Speaker 2: of the New Zealand Maulti way Henea All Stars. They're

2012
01:44:01,107 --> 01:44:04,307
Speaker 2: going to take on the Australian Indigenous Women's All Stars.

2013
01:44:04,347 --> 01:44:06,987
Speaker 2: That's at three point thirty. There's the touch game first

2014
01:44:07,227 --> 01:44:09,187
Speaker 2: to twenty five, the women's game at three thirty, the

2015
01:44:09,267 --> 01:44:12,547
Speaker 2: men's game at five point forty five. That's all next Sunday,

2016
01:44:12,547 --> 01:44:17,587
Speaker 2: February fifteen at FMG Stadium, way Kittle in Hamilton. What

2017
01:44:17,747 --> 01:44:18,707
Speaker 2: are we have passed?

2018
01:44:18,707 --> 01:44:18,947
Speaker 4: Two?

2019
01:44:19,227 --> 01:44:24,147
Speaker 2: Thirteen year old Wellington golfer Elise Barber has been handed

2020
01:44:24,187 --> 01:44:27,987
Speaker 2: the final invite to the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship,

2021
01:44:28,227 --> 01:44:30,987
Speaker 2: which tees off at her home course, Royal Wellington Golf

2022
01:44:30,987 --> 01:44:35,347
Speaker 2: Club on Thursday. Now. She is in year nine. That's

2023
01:44:35,387 --> 01:44:37,987
Speaker 2: the third form for those of us who remember the

2024
01:44:38,027 --> 01:44:41,027
Speaker 2: old terminology at Queen Margaret College in Wellington. She plays

2025
01:44:41,027 --> 01:44:44,147
Speaker 2: off a two point three handicap and fills a vacancy

2026
01:44:44,227 --> 01:44:47,507
Speaker 2: left by a late withdrawal. She'll become the youngest competitor

2027
01:44:47,547 --> 01:44:50,987
Speaker 2: obviously in the field of eighty four players from twenty

2028
01:44:51,027 --> 01:44:54,747
Speaker 2: five countries across the Asia Pacific region. It also means

2029
01:44:54,787 --> 01:44:58,347
Speaker 2: that there will be ten Kiwis in the field. Elise

2030
01:44:58,387 --> 01:45:01,787
Speaker 2: Barber's coach is Dean Kingsbear, who joins US now. Dean,

2031
01:45:01,827 --> 01:45:03,587
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time. How big a moment is

2032
01:45:03,667 --> 01:45:06,227
Speaker 2: this for for thirteen year old Elle?

2033
01:45:07,507 --> 01:45:10,387
Speaker 22: Oh, it's huge, It's yes. I was so excited and

2034
01:45:10,627 --> 01:45:12,747
Speaker 22: I can imagine how excited she was and her pearance

2035
01:45:12,787 --> 01:45:15,467
Speaker 22: were to get the call up. Yeah, it's one of

2036
01:45:15,507 --> 01:45:17,547
Speaker 22: the obvious going to be a biggest event that she's played,

2037
01:45:17,587 --> 01:45:21,467
Speaker 22: and so yeah, it's going to be exciting times for what.

2038
01:45:21,347 --> 01:45:25,347
Speaker 2: Would represent a successful tournament for her.

2039
01:45:26,427 --> 01:45:29,227
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a tough one. I've been thinking about that myself,

2040
01:45:29,267 --> 01:45:32,427
Speaker 22: but you know, just going out there and going through

2041
01:45:32,427 --> 01:45:34,867
Speaker 22: a process and doing what we've we've talked about, and

2042
01:45:35,307 --> 01:45:38,187
Speaker 22: you know, it wouldn't surprise me to see her up

2043
01:45:38,227 --> 01:45:40,987
Speaker 22: the leaderboard, to be fair, you know, I don't want

2044
01:45:41,027 --> 01:45:43,947
Speaker 22: any put any pressure on her, but she's definitely capable

2045
01:45:43,947 --> 01:45:46,307
Speaker 22: of being up there. So yeah, make the cut will

2046
01:45:46,347 --> 01:45:48,547
Speaker 22: be obviously her first goal, and then we can reascess

2047
01:45:48,587 --> 01:45:49,347
Speaker 22: things after that.

2048
01:45:49,787 --> 01:45:51,707
Speaker 2: What are the strengths of her game.

2049
01:45:53,667 --> 01:45:58,907
Speaker 22: Yeah, everything, everything, the whole lot. Yeah, honestly, I can't

2050
01:45:58,947 --> 01:46:00,867
Speaker 22: there's there's not a weakness. You know, we go out

2051
01:46:00,907 --> 01:46:03,307
Speaker 22: and play together quite a lot, and you know, I've

2052
01:46:03,307 --> 01:46:05,107
Speaker 22: got to keep my game pretty sharp to keep up

2053
01:46:05,107 --> 01:46:08,867
Speaker 22: with her now. So yeah, yeah, short games amazing. We

2054
01:46:08,947 --> 01:46:10,427
Speaker 22: worked a lot on the short game when she was

2055
01:46:10,467 --> 01:46:13,707
Speaker 22: younger because obviously the distance and things were a little

2056
01:46:13,747 --> 01:46:16,307
Speaker 22: bit lacking there just due to her size. So we

2057
01:46:16,347 --> 01:46:19,307
Speaker 22: focused a lot on the short game. So that's that's

2058
01:46:19,307 --> 01:46:22,107
Speaker 22: a big asset to her. And then you know, now

2059
01:46:22,147 --> 01:46:24,147
Speaker 22: she's developed and she's hitting the ball just as fast,

2060
01:46:24,227 --> 01:46:26,787
Speaker 22: so I don't think they added lengths to the course

2061
01:46:26,827 --> 01:46:28,987
Speaker 22: will affect her. And yeah, around the green, she'll be

2062
01:46:29,707 --> 01:46:31,707
Speaker 22: She'll be able to get herself out of trouble, no problem.

2063
01:46:31,787 --> 01:46:34,387
Speaker 2: And speaking of the course, it's a home course at

2064
01:46:34,507 --> 01:46:37,707
Speaker 2: Royal Wellington, so that must give her, if not an advantage,

2065
01:46:37,867 --> 01:46:38,747
Speaker 2: certainly a boost.

2066
01:46:39,747 --> 01:46:39,867
Speaker 4: Well.

2067
01:46:39,987 --> 01:46:42,907
Speaker 22: Definitely, she's played there a lot. I think she her

2068
01:46:42,907 --> 01:46:46,747
Speaker 22: home courses Shandon. She plays for Shandon, the elite into

2069
01:46:46,747 --> 01:46:49,187
Speaker 22: club level at Shandon, and you know she's a member

2070
01:46:49,227 --> 01:46:51,067
Speaker 22: a lot of the other courses around, which is as

2071
01:46:51,107 --> 01:46:54,387
Speaker 22: great for the juniors. The memberships are so cheap for

2072
01:46:54,427 --> 01:46:56,067
Speaker 22: them and they can go and play there. So, yeah,

2073
01:46:56,307 --> 01:46:58,667
Speaker 22: she's played Ry a lot of times, and you know

2074
01:46:58,787 --> 01:47:00,587
Speaker 22: it will be a little different to what she's used to.

2075
01:47:00,627 --> 01:47:02,627
Speaker 22: They'll set up a little tougher as they do for

2076
01:47:02,667 --> 01:47:05,707
Speaker 22: most events greens, maybe a little faster, but you know,

2077
01:47:05,907 --> 01:47:09,507
Speaker 22: she adapt, she's got she's got that professional brain on

2078
01:47:09,547 --> 01:47:10,587
Speaker 22: there when it comes to golf.

2079
01:47:11,347 --> 01:47:14,147
Speaker 2: Speaking of the top two inches as they call it,

2080
01:47:14,187 --> 01:47:17,987
Speaker 2: how much do you have to manage such a young

2081
01:47:18,027 --> 01:47:20,867
Speaker 2: player's headspace and what will be by far the biggest

2082
01:47:20,867 --> 01:47:22,147
Speaker 2: tournament of her life.

2083
01:47:23,427 --> 01:47:25,667
Speaker 22: It's just it's just trying to trying to stay patient.

2084
01:47:26,347 --> 01:47:28,347
Speaker 22: As you hear all the time, just stay patient, and

2085
01:47:29,547 --> 01:47:31,627
Speaker 22: you know we're going to have bad holes, and we

2086
01:47:31,747 --> 01:47:33,667
Speaker 22: just got to be patient and wait for the wait

2087
01:47:33,707 --> 01:47:36,347
Speaker 22: for the good holes and get the birdies. But for her,

2088
01:47:36,507 --> 01:47:38,827
Speaker 22: your name and a lot of youngsters, it's it's a game.

2089
01:47:38,827 --> 01:47:41,387
Speaker 22: We all know that's very frustrated and we can get frustrated,

2090
01:47:41,427 --> 01:47:43,827
Speaker 22: but she's went very quickly that you know, we hit it,

2091
01:47:43,827 --> 01:47:45,587
Speaker 22: we find it, and we hit it again, and just

2092
01:47:45,627 --> 01:47:47,027
Speaker 22: try and get the ball in the in the hole

2093
01:47:47,067 --> 01:47:49,427
Speaker 22: in the least amount of shots. And she's great at that.

2094
01:47:49,507 --> 01:47:51,507
Speaker 22: You know, she walks around. If you're out there watching,

2095
01:47:51,587 --> 01:47:53,707
Speaker 22: you'll see her and she's just taken in her she's loving,

2096
01:47:54,027 --> 01:47:57,147
Speaker 22: loving golf. She just walks around so casual and chats

2097
01:47:57,187 --> 01:47:59,947
Speaker 22: to everyone. So and that will help take the pressure

2098
01:47:59,987 --> 01:48:01,827
Speaker 22: off as well. Yeah, she just has a great time.

2099
01:48:02,107 --> 01:48:05,067
Speaker 2: She rational was second in the New Zealand woman stroke

2100
01:48:05,107 --> 01:48:09,467
Speaker 2: Play Championship against adult golfers. She helped Wellington to third

2101
01:48:09,467 --> 01:48:13,667
Speaker 2: at the women's Into Provincial is playing against adult golfers

2102
01:48:13,907 --> 01:48:15,267
Speaker 2: something she's got pretty used to.

2103
01:48:16,027 --> 01:48:18,867
Speaker 22: Yeah, definitely, and that helps going forward as well and

2104
01:48:18,947 --> 01:48:22,187
Speaker 22: against the better players and being able to see where

2105
01:48:22,187 --> 01:48:25,547
Speaker 22: your game stacks up against them. So yeah, that's definitely

2106
01:48:25,547 --> 01:48:29,547
Speaker 22: an advantage. And yeah, that's finishing second and then he's

2107
01:48:29,587 --> 01:48:31,627
Speaker 22: on a stroke play, you know, I think it's by

2108
01:48:31,627 --> 01:48:33,067
Speaker 22: one or two shots, and she had a one. Now

2109
01:48:33,107 --> 01:48:36,827
Speaker 22: I think I think she could have one of those

2110
01:48:36,867 --> 01:48:40,707
Speaker 22: records by a particular young female golf Oldia. So she

2111
01:48:40,747 --> 01:48:42,827
Speaker 22: could have broke that record, but here's more years to.

2112
01:48:42,787 --> 01:48:45,107
Speaker 2: Come as in there absolutely and from a coach's point

2113
01:48:45,107 --> 01:48:48,147
Speaker 2: of view, Dean, when you're coaching such a young player,

2114
01:48:48,787 --> 01:48:54,307
Speaker 2: where do you place your focus.

2115
01:48:52,107 --> 01:48:55,107
Speaker 22: Just on the fun and enjoyment getting out there, like

2116
01:48:55,467 --> 01:48:57,587
Speaker 22: you know this week, you know, at least has got

2117
01:48:57,627 --> 01:49:01,027
Speaker 22: nothing to lose. It's just going to be an experience

2118
01:49:01,027 --> 01:49:04,227
Speaker 22: and all these tournaments that she's playing and it's an experience,

2119
01:49:04,267 --> 01:49:06,227
Speaker 22: and that's what it comes down to, playing and needs

2120
01:49:06,227 --> 01:49:09,067
Speaker 22: of events. So when it comes to events like this,

2121
01:49:09,467 --> 01:49:11,667
Speaker 22: she's probably not as nervous and she's just used to it.

2122
01:49:11,747 --> 01:49:14,107
Speaker 22: Like these guys on the PGA Tour and the girls,

2123
01:49:14,107 --> 01:49:16,707
Speaker 22: they're playing these big events, these pressure events day in

2124
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Speaker 22: and day out, so it's just like going out and

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Speaker 22: playing with your mates. So yeah, I just make sure

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Speaker 22: that she enjoys it and she's at that stage now.

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Speaker 22: As a coach, I like to make sure my students

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Speaker 22: can actually coach themselves so they've got a good understanding

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Speaker 22: of what makes the ball do what it does and

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Speaker 22: how they can fix that when they're out playing. And yeah,

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Speaker 22: that's what we sort of focus on and just play

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Speaker 22: a lot of golf together and had fun.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like she's in very good hands and exciting week

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Speaker 2: ahead for her and for you, Dean. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 2: the time for a chat. Can't wait to see how

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Speaker 2: it all plays out at Royal Wellington from Thursday onwards.

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Speaker 8: It'll be great.

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Speaker 22: And yeah, you watch that leaderboard. I guarantee she'll be

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Speaker 22: on it and up there at some stage.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep an eye on it. Dean thanks indeed,

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Speaker 2: Dean Kingspear golf coach coach of Elise Barber, thirteen year

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Speaker 2: old now bad playing off a two point three at

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Speaker 2: the age of thirteen. She'll love it, won't she? And

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Speaker 2: Dean Kingsby clearly thinks she's got what it takes to well,

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Speaker 2: certainly contend. I mean making the cut would be a thing,

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01:50:16,187 --> 01:50:20,707
Speaker 2: wouldn't it. Eighty four players she makes the cut at thirteen,

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Speaker 2: who knows what she might go on to achieve. Remember

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Speaker 2: the name, as they say, Elise Barber. The Women's Amateur

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Speaker 2: Asia Pacific Golf Championship, Royal Wellington Golf Club from Thursday

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Speaker 2: through until next Sunday. We'll make sure we keep you

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Speaker 2: right up to date on zed B as to how

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Speaker 2: things are going to thirty seven. We'll take a break

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Speaker 2: when we come back. We go stateside for Super Bowls

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Speaker 2: sixty the Patriots against the Seahawks from around midday tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand time mark peered on the ground will. We'll

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Speaker 2: well suss him out and engage the atmosphere and soak

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Speaker 2: it all up when he joins us on weekend Sport after.

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Speaker 4: This, it's more than just a game.

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Speaker 8: Weekend Sport with.

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Speaker 1: Jason Yne and GJ. Garnomes, New Zealand's most trusted builder News.

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Speaker 2: Talk coming up nineteen to three. The biggest day in

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Speaker 2: US sports, Super Bowl sixty Tomorrow, twelve thirty pm New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Times. So lunchtime for US the Seattle Seahawks against

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots at Levi Stadium, Santa Clara, California.

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Speaker 2: These two met in the Super Bowl twenty fifteen, the

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Speaker 2: Patriots winning that one, and again they won Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen. The Seahawks haven't been back

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Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl since that matchup in twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Let's get you there with co host of the hugely

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Speaker 2: popular morning Shift show podcast, Mark pered Mark. What's it

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01:51:41,907 --> 01:51:44,547
Speaker 2: like in super Bowl City during Super Bowl Week?

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Speaker 23: It's incredible, plenty, it's been building, it's been absolutely building up.

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Speaker 4: It was a bit quiet when we first arrived.

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Speaker 23: We've been here since last Friday, so we took on

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Speaker 23: media media row and a radio rasorry and have been

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Speaker 23: here for the build up, I guess. But now the

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Speaker 23: fans started piling into San Francisco and it's chaos.

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Speaker 4: It's busy.

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Speaker 23: I think for those who have had the chance to

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Speaker 23: San Francisco in the last few years, they reckon it

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Speaker 23: dropped off quite a bit during Combard and the city

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Speaker 23: come and lacking.

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Speaker 4: A little bit bossessed.

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Speaker 23: Certainly in the last couple of hours, that's for sure,

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Speaker 23: because people have started to set up. The NFL has

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Speaker 23: taken over the city. You can see super Bowl posters

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Speaker 23: everywhere they've got When the NFL come into town too,

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Speaker 23: they just they hire up buildings and entire buildings and

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Speaker 23: they decorate them and they they you know, it's just

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Speaker 23: it's done on such a massive scale. Everybody's aware that

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Speaker 23: Santa Clara will be tough place where super Bowl will

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Speaker 23: be taking place, and yeah, it's starting until everyone's getting excited.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Ben, including yourself. I've seen your social media content,

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Speaker 2: absolutely loving it. You talked about radio Row there. Man,

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Speaker 2: there's something I'd love to get to at some point.

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Speaker 2: What is this set up like for media covering Super Bowl?

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Speaker 23: It's so hard to put in perspective, like I don't

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Speaker 23: think we have halls as big as what they have

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Speaker 23: here in America. So if you can put together I

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Speaker 23: guess where they'd usually whole big Boys Toys or if

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Speaker 23: you're an upland and you get to go to arm

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Speaker 23: Ahead and massive halls like that that are just full

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Speaker 23: of the biggest names and entertainment and they've all got

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Speaker 23: big stages set up to them. If your ESPN, your TBS,

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01:53:21,387 --> 01:53:23,867
Speaker 23: no matter what they work for, they put these big

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Speaker 23: stages together and they have their guests, they have their.

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Speaker 4: Hosts up there. They are all recording their shows or

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Speaker 4: going live onto the network.

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Speaker 23: And then the easiest place for any celebrity or up

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Speaker 23: and coming artists or even athletes to walk around that

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Speaker 23: building once and you pretty much get on every single

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Speaker 23: platform there is to get on. And so, yes, the

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Speaker 23: biggest names just walking amongst a little old men and

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Speaker 23: my hosts on Unit show.

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Speaker 2: I know this has been a long held ambission of

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Speaker 2: yours to be in and around Super Bowl. Has it

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Speaker 2: been a bit of a pinch me week for you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Constantly? Constantly.

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Speaker 23: I mean I think when you get to a certain agent,

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Speaker 23: I'm sure plenty of you can at the end of

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01:54:04,147 --> 01:54:06,547
Speaker 23: the you're kind of kind of the dream that you

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01:54:06,627 --> 01:54:09,467
Speaker 23: have them like sort of stamped down, or they start

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01:54:09,507 --> 01:54:11,187
Speaker 23: to get further and further away. This one from there

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Speaker 23: has been with me for life, and so to be

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Speaker 23: able to get here, to be able to see how

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Speaker 23: it works, and I'm just blowing away with the investment

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Speaker 23: and the amount of money and the amount of takes

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Speaker 23: time and energy that has spent and promoting the game,

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Speaker 23: and I'm saying, this is our big showcase. There's no

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Speaker 23: rocket left unto every single dollar that is possibly available

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Speaker 23: to spend. And the NFL takes over the city and goes,

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Speaker 23: you know what, this is our big showcase, and we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to spend money. It's our big showcase. And I've

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01:54:39,787 --> 01:54:40,387
Speaker 4: just felt that.

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Speaker 23: So in terms of a dream ticking this off my

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Speaker 23: list of things I've always wanted to do, this is

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Speaker 23: the absolute top of the list.

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Speaker 4: And so I've been blessed.

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Speaker 23: I've been pinching myself constantly, just you know, running into

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Speaker 23: some of the players or just talking to some of

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Speaker 23: the players, getting photos of some of the celebrities. It's

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Speaker 23: just constant favor. Oh my goodness, I can't believe we

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01:54:59,427 --> 01:55:01,667
Speaker 23: just did that the other night. We got invited to

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Speaker 23: walk the red carpet for the NFL Honors Awards, so

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Speaker 23: we are. I'm standing ext Jerry Jones, who insta Cowboys,

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01:55:08,387 --> 01:55:12,107
Speaker 23: the most expensive franchise in the entire world. He's worth

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Speaker 23: nineteen point five billion dollars and little of me, little

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Speaker 23: of me standing there to him, and I was just like, Wow,

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Speaker 23: this is this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's you give me goosebumps even talking about it. At

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01:55:22,747 --> 01:55:25,547
Speaker 2: least talk about the game itself briefly. Seattle Seahawks, New

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01:55:25,587 --> 01:55:27,987
Speaker 2: England Patriots. Who are the favorites and how do these

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01:55:28,027 --> 01:55:28,667
Speaker 2: two match up?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well it's it's a funny one pointy because it doesn't.

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Speaker 23: It definitely feels like with them are around it, this

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Speaker 23: will be like a schedule game.

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Speaker 4: They're a bit oftensive theme.

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Speaker 23: But you know, I saw the bookies were giving them

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Speaker 23: a four and a half point head start. I would

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01:55:44,827 --> 01:55:47,707
Speaker 23: not be doing that here in the big game like this.

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Speaker 23: I think it's going to be a tai one. I

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01:55:49,467 --> 01:55:52,587
Speaker 23: think the last thing you kind of wanted to go

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Speaker 23: back and forth with field goals. You can't want one

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Speaker 23: team to get out in front, so the other one

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Speaker 23: has to risk it. But at the end of the day.

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Speaker 23: I do think it's going to be Seattle's game to lose.

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Speaker 23: They've got the they've got the bit of defense, and

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Speaker 23: as a lot of people have to say, the defense

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Speaker 23: wins championship when you have to get to that last

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01:56:08,347 --> 01:56:09,947
Speaker 23: moment in the game and you can trust on the

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01:56:09,947 --> 01:56:10,867
Speaker 23: thing that's got you there.

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Speaker 4: Seattle'll be able to trust in their defense. And that's

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Speaker 4: what I'm picking.

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Speaker 23: But I wouldn't be saying it's four and a half,

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01:56:16,227 --> 01:56:17,427
Speaker 23: so it's probably closer.

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Speaker 2: The other quarterbacks, you always obviously land on them when

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Speaker 2: you're looking for influential players. Drake May leading the New

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Speaker 2: England Patriots the Super Bowl second year in the NFL

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01:56:27,027 --> 01:56:29,227
Speaker 2: could be the youngest quarterback ever to win it. Sam

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Speaker 2: Dunnell rejuvenating his career with the Seahawks. How do you

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01:56:32,147 --> 01:56:33,667
Speaker 2: evaluate the quarterback battle?

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Speaker 4: Ah, You know what, this is an interesting one.

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01:56:37,707 --> 01:56:40,227
Speaker 23: You've got Sam Donald, who you've just did is already

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01:56:40,227 --> 01:56:42,667
Speaker 23: in his career, He's bounced around the league. He's probably

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01:56:43,107 --> 01:56:44,507
Speaker 23: one of those you know, he's got that chip on

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01:56:44,547 --> 01:56:47,347
Speaker 23: his shoulder, and when you've got chips on your shoulder,

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01:56:47,467 --> 01:56:49,467
Speaker 23: you always seem to play a little bit more risky

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01:56:50,347 --> 01:56:52,467
Speaker 23: and I think for a long time there people were

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01:56:52,467 --> 01:56:55,067
Speaker 23: saying Seattle can make the Super Bowl if Sam Donald

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Speaker 23: doesn't turn the ball over, like just ride your defense through,

2292
01:56:57,667 --> 01:57:00,827
Speaker 23: which is never the greatest thing to have some about

2293
01:57:00,867 --> 01:57:03,987
Speaker 23: you if you're the team, but understandable. Sam Donald has

2294
01:57:03,987 --> 01:57:05,667
Speaker 23: been had his up and down, but he's been pretty

2295
01:57:05,667 --> 01:57:07,987
Speaker 23: in the last few weeks and deserve to be there.

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01:57:08,347 --> 01:57:11,707
Speaker 23: And Drake May young, plucky, and I think for anyone

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01:57:11,707 --> 01:57:14,187
Speaker 23: who follows the NFL that's just annoyed by the fact

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01:57:14,187 --> 01:57:16,707
Speaker 23: that the Patriots haven't had to make wait too long

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01:57:17,467 --> 01:57:19,867
Speaker 23: to get back to the big dance after the Tom

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Speaker 23: Brady era, and that's kind of annoying for everyone else.

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Speaker 4: He follows the lead, you're like a great name, You've

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Speaker 4: got yourself a young star.

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01:57:25,307 --> 01:57:28,227
Speaker 23: He's posting the MVP race and here you guys go again,

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01:57:28,267 --> 01:57:29,427
Speaker 23: back into the change that came.

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Speaker 4: And the franchisees haven't ever made the Super Bowls. So yeah,

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01:57:33,227 --> 01:57:34,867
Speaker 4: there's it's a strange feeling.

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Speaker 23: I think both the players have the potential to either

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01:57:38,747 --> 01:57:40,547
Speaker 23: win it or lose it for their team. But if

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Speaker 23: I was backing one of the quarterbacks to put up

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Speaker 23: better numbers, I'd say it's probably going to be Drake

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Speaker 23: May and anyone who's interested. You know, I would say

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01:57:47,307 --> 01:57:49,227
Speaker 23: he's going to have to scramble a bit. I don't think.

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Speaker 23: I don't think that's the Seattle team will allow the

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01:57:51,267 --> 01:57:53,547
Speaker 23: past too much. He's probably gonna have to use his feet,

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01:57:53,827 --> 01:57:55,987
Speaker 23: which is interesting too because he's pretty quick and he

2316
01:57:56,027 --> 01:57:57,707
Speaker 23: can get some yards they can rack up quickly.

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Speaker 2: Just to finish, Mark, youve followed American sport for a

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01:58:00,707 --> 01:58:03,107
Speaker 2: long time, and I know you're deeply invested in a

2319
01:58:03,147 --> 01:58:05,867
Speaker 2: lot of parts of it. We think, and we know

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01:58:06,547 --> 01:58:09,747
Speaker 2: baseball is big, Basketball is big, the NBA, Ice hockey's big.

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Speaker 2: But this is the biggest, isn't it. Super Bowl is

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01:58:12,507 --> 01:58:15,347
Speaker 2: the biggest day on the US sporting calendar.

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Speaker 4: One questions asked the NBA.

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Speaker 23: You know, the thought that I guess we watch more

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01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:25,747
Speaker 23: would be the NBA, maybe baseball even But in terms

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01:58:25,787 --> 01:58:29,147
Speaker 23: of football in America, this is religions. This is the

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01:58:29,187 --> 01:58:31,627
Speaker 23: city is able to host a Super Bowl like San

2328
01:58:31,667 --> 01:58:35,707
Speaker 23: Francisco has and is it just changes the entire outcome.

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Speaker 4: And I mean put it this way.

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Speaker 23: We're invited to go along to what's called NFL House

2331
01:58:39,707 --> 01:58:41,507
Speaker 23: and they set one of these up every single year

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01:58:41,547 --> 01:58:43,547
Speaker 23: and whatever city they're in our next year is our epe.

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Speaker 4: But I'll do the same again. They booked out an

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Speaker 4: entire building.

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Speaker 23: I'm talking like an entire building is booked out by

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Speaker 23: the NFL, and whatever was in there is cleared out,

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Speaker 23: and what's put in there is free drinks, free food

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Speaker 23: for all their corporate hostings. So any kind of sponsor,

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Speaker 23: any kind of media that's come from a certain country

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01:59:01,787 --> 01:59:03,627
Speaker 23: or whatever, they will bring them into this building. And

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01:59:03,667 --> 01:59:05,947
Speaker 23: every night from the last week they have had free drinks,

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01:59:05,947 --> 01:59:08,387
Speaker 23: free food, food, and the entire building is booked out

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01:59:08,547 --> 01:59:10,987
Speaker 23: with some of the most lavish furniture, some of the greatest,

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01:59:11,107 --> 01:59:14,227
Speaker 23: greatest paintings, and they just do it so well, and

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01:59:14,267 --> 01:59:16,787
Speaker 23: they know it's their biggest event, and when the world

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01:59:16,827 --> 01:59:18,267
Speaker 23: knows it's their big events as well.

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Speaker 4: As I said before, there's no rock less unturned. They

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01:59:21,827 --> 01:59:25,187
Speaker 4: will spin, spend, spend, and they can. I mean, these

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01:59:25,227 --> 01:59:26,467
Speaker 4: are billion dollar franchises.

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Speaker 23: So when you've got a final that's called the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 23: you've got to make it super good for everybody involved.

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Speaker 4: And you can definitely tell Examprancis.

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Speaker 23: Over the last probably three or four days, just the

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01:59:36,267 --> 01:59:39,307
Speaker 23: crowds have started to pick up. We were just noticing

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01:59:39,307 --> 01:59:41,667
Speaker 23: before too, there's no homeless people on the streets right now.

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Speaker 4: We are where there was when we first arrived. Just things.

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01:59:45,147 --> 01:59:48,747
Speaker 23: The big NFL machine just starts grinding and you can

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01:59:48,827 --> 01:59:52,067
Speaker 23: just see money flowing and big names walking around the streets,

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Speaker 23: including celebrities and athletes.

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Speaker 2: Well, if there's anybody who I would wish to be there,

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01:59:57,827 --> 01:59:59,947
Speaker 2: it as you, mate. Regards to Jordan and to Brook

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01:59:59,947 --> 02:00:02,227
Speaker 2: as well, and to you mate, enjoy it all and

2363
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Speaker 2: enjoy the culmination of what I'm sure has been an

2364
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Speaker 2: absolutely magnificent tend.

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Speaker 4: For you, mate. Thank you so much, and I always

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Speaker 4: love to support.

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Speaker 23: Thank you, poney, and for everyone watching you like you say,

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Speaker 23: twelve thirty, it's going to be in on Monday.

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Speaker 4: You can watch it on TV and Z.

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Speaker 23: They've got the They've got Crease got a Super Bowl

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Speaker 23: so ever, and can watch it there.

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Speaker 4: And thank you. Yeah, I'm going to come home.

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Speaker 23: I'll have to have a week of sleeping and I

2374
02:00:25,307 --> 02:00:27,307
Speaker 23: have to work out what my next goal is, because

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02:00:27,787 --> 02:00:30,347
Speaker 23: you know, I've managed to check this one off my box,

2376
02:00:30,347 --> 02:00:31,707
Speaker 23: so I don't know what else there is to do

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Speaker 23: after this.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll find something great to chat Mark all

2379
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Speaker 2: the best mates day, safe, travel well and enjoy it tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Cheers Pony, all the best mate chairs. Mark peered there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've known Mark for a long time. I actually in

2382
02:00:45,747 --> 02:00:48,187
Speaker 2: a former life, I guess you'd call it. I was

2383
02:00:48,187 --> 02:00:51,747
Speaker 2: a I was a radio tutor and this guy turned

2384
02:00:51,827 --> 02:00:55,147
Speaker 2: up and he was very raw, but he knew that

2385
02:00:55,187 --> 02:00:57,347
Speaker 2: he wanted to be in the media, this kid out

2386
02:00:57,347 --> 02:01:00,587
Speaker 2: of Gisbone. And you know, sometimes in hindsight, it's always

2387
02:01:00,587 --> 02:01:03,187
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. You you think that guy's got a bit

2388
02:01:03,187 --> 02:01:05,227
Speaker 2: about him, he might he might be something. And that

2389
02:01:05,347 --> 02:01:07,947
Speaker 2: was Mark Piired and he has had a long and

2390
02:01:07,947 --> 02:01:12,947
Speaker 2: winding road through various media platforms, has impressed people wherever

2391
02:01:12,987 --> 02:01:17,787
Speaker 2: he's gone, has landed, as I say now with Jordan

2392
02:01:17,787 --> 02:01:21,027
Speaker 2: of Arcolo and Brooke Rusco as the co host of

2393
02:01:21,067 --> 02:01:24,587
Speaker 2: the Morning Shift Show podcast which has become very very popular.

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02:01:25,067 --> 02:01:30,587
Speaker 2: And to hear the yeah, the excitement in Mark's voice,

2395
02:01:30,627 --> 02:01:32,507
Speaker 2: and to watch the footage of him being told he

2396
02:01:32,587 --> 02:01:35,067
Speaker 2: was going to Super Bowl he was surprised by the

2397
02:01:35,107 --> 02:01:38,147
Speaker 2: other two. Just terrific. Yeah, just so delighted for him.

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Speaker 2: So Super Bowl sixty twelve thirty tomorrow, Seattle, Seahawks, New

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Speaker 2: England Patriots in Santa Clara, California. Weekend Sport ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Zin News Talk z Envy.

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Speaker 2: Six to three. That is us on Weekend Sport for today.

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Speaker 2: Tim Beveridge ready to go with the Weekend Collective. He's

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Speaker 2: got his nose pressed up against the glass wanting to

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Speaker 2: get it and it looks like Marcel Marceau one of

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Speaker 2: his mime act. Goodness only knows what the Weekend collect

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Speaker 2: been done, as anything to go by, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be an absolute award winner. Thank you for listening into

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Speaker 2: the show this afternoon. We're back on sports Talk tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night where we will cover off Super Bowl for you

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Speaker 2: and other bits and pieces as well. Don't forget the

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Speaker 2: black Caps underway in their T twenty World Cup campaign

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Speaker 2: tonight six thirty they take on Afghanistan, and of course

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Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics continue as well, with lots of key

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Speaker 2: we interest over the next week or so. Huge thanks

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Speaker 2: to any McDonald for an amazing amount of heavy lifting

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Speaker 2: across the weekend to get all our guests locked in.

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Speaker 2: Coordinating six super rugby franchises and trying to get them

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Speaker 2: all at the right place at the right time is

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Speaker 2: no mean feat. Thanks mate, enjoyed the rest of your

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Speaker 2: afternoon and a couple of hours of relaxation. Perhaps taking

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Speaker 2: us out well, it is the Winter Olympics and you

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Speaker 2: know me, I love a cliche, cold des ice taking

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Speaker 2: us out saamorrow night.

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Speaker 18: sa con that you you're see that?

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Speaker 11: Can that?

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