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Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic if the mic asking breakfast with the Defender,

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Speaker 1: embraced the impossible news togs dead, be body and.

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Speaker 2: Welcome today Fontira's big vote. Do they sell or not?

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Speaker 2: We're going to mess it. I'm sure investment to tell

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Speaker 2: you about in our energy sector, a scrap over migrant

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Speaker 2: v Local labour, rods and Britain. Joe is in Italy

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Speaker 2: as well, PASKI. Welcome to the day, seven past six

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Speaker 2: Fontier Day to day. Of course, vote closes to sell

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Speaker 2: or not to sell, to collect o before billion, or

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Speaker 2: to carry on as is. Gut seems to be similar

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Speaker 2: to the Alliance vote the other week, although both scenarios

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Speaker 2: could not be more different. Of course, Alliance in a

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Speaker 2: pile of fiscal trouble and as a fortune Fontira laughing,

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Speaker 2: the vote needs fifty percent plus one. I'd be astonished

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Speaker 2: if they didn't get it and buy some margin and

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Speaker 2: a piece. I read this week it was suggested this

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Speaker 2: whole thing has flown a bit under the radar, with

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Speaker 2: even Winston Peters Lake to the party. Now, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure that's true. We've talked about it a lot on

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Speaker 2: this program, although in general terms I did think to

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Speaker 2: myself yesterday, to my dismay. A lot of the media

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Speaker 2: coverage these days focus is on the clickbaity here and now,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to the broader issues that will affect us

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Speaker 2: on an ongoing basis. So maybe the author was right.

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Speaker 2: Each farmer on average will collect about four hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars tax free. The counter is you're giving away brands

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Speaker 2: that are part of New Zealand fabric, and if patriotism

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Speaker 2: was a greater player in our collective psyche, we may

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Speaker 2: be having a different conversation. It's an odd sale. I mean,

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Speaker 2: farmers are laughing. These are the golden days. The consumer

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Speaker 2: side of Fonterra, the bit they want to sell is

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Speaker 2: actually doing fine. This isn't a stress sale or for sale.

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Speaker 2: It's an opportunistic sale, a kind of what the hell

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Speaker 2: why not? Sort of sale. In all honesty, although I'm

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Speaker 2: against it, I can tell you I am am I

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Speaker 2: so against it that if I was a farmer and

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Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars was arriving a mailbox, I'd still

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Speaker 2: feel the same. And owning so part of business and

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Speaker 2: owning a company is at some point there's got to

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Speaker 2: be a return and given what Fontira has been through

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Speaker 2: these past few years. It's a big call not to

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Speaker 2: cash and with the going's good, I would have thought

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Speaker 2: it wasn't that long ago. Never forget that Fonterra was

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Speaker 2: all over the place. They were invested in any number

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Speaker 2: of hair brain schemes, and demand for the powder wasn't

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Speaker 2: what it is right now. Right now, things have been

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Speaker 2: tied up. The ship is right and the window is good.

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Speaker 2: So today we'll see a solid, yes, a mess of

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Speaker 2: payday and maybe some fingers crossed that we don't in

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Speaker 2: the ensuing years talk about regrets.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: So Molsta came on through Jamaica, believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: Not all tourists got out.

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Speaker 3: It is founding.

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Speaker 4: The windows broken, a lot of water's coming in.

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Speaker 5: So we're just basically pushing that travels and stuff at

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Speaker 5: the doors that's comin on the level of nine intradiculous.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot to take care of today. Of course,

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Speaker 2: it is not going to.

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Speaker 6: Be Uneasier or Jamaica. We have seen the extent of

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Speaker 6: the damage. It is going to take a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: Volunteers are on the way.

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Speaker 7: Most of the houses in Jamaica they're not built properly

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Speaker 7: for hurricanes.

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Speaker 5: So we're worried about the people in Jamaica as much

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Speaker 5: as Jamaica can get fees sent help.

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Speaker 2: Then in Britain, P and Q is awesome. As the

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Speaker 2: hit goes on the government, I know the promise on

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Speaker 2: text that they're about to break in the budget.

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Speaker 5: Tiners, and we know that he'd rather dip into people's

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Speaker 5: pockets than upset those people behind him instead of tax rises.

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Speaker 5: Will he work with us to find a way to

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Speaker 5: cut welfare spending and get Britain working again?

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Speaker 2: He did his best.

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Speaker 8: Retail sales are higher than expected, exploration is lower than expected.

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Speaker 8: Growth has been upgraded this year and mister speak of

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Speaker 8: the UK stock market.

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Speaker 9: Is at an all time high.

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Speaker 2: Lipstick on a pig, my friend. Then on the road,

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Speaker 2: the Trumpsters kind of deal with Japan, another with Korea,

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Speaker 2: but as deal with Israel might be having some issues already.

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Speaker 9: They have to be here there on the rough side

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Speaker 9: when they said they would be good, and if they're good,

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Speaker 9: they're going to be happy.

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Speaker 3: And of dead, not good, they're going to be terminated.

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Speaker 3: Their lives will re terminated.

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Speaker 2: Arley and Apple yesterday hitting the full trillion mark the

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Speaker 2: as well well, so yesterday, because today I can inform

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Speaker 2: you that in Nvidia's cracked f as in trillion, obviously

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Speaker 2: the first company ever to do that. It only took

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Speaker 2: them three months to go from four to five, thirteen

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Speaker 2: months to go from three to four. So that is

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Speaker 2: news of the world and bubbles in ninety. The apploymenttion

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Speaker 2: deal that Trump did, by the way, with South Korea

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Speaker 2: looks good. Actually, they agreed to reduce the reciprocals are

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Speaker 2: from twenty five to fifteen, and South Korea are the

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty. That's not that different. I mean

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Speaker 2: the twenty five to fifteen is the change because South

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Speaker 2: Korea already promised the money. But the three to fifty

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Speaker 2: billion they promised initially to invest in America is broken

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Speaker 2: down to two hundred billion in cash and one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty billion in shipbuilding. So I guess that's a

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Speaker 2: win for Trump. Eleven past six.

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Speaker 2: A couple of hours ago, GM said they're laying off

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Speaker 2: another seventeen hundred people at sites in Michigan, Ohio, what

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Speaker 2: are the problems the problems are evs. Do you think

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Speaker 2: the government around the world is going to eventually get

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Speaker 2: to the conclusion that we've caused too much carnage job

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Speaker 2: wise in the car industry and they might want to

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Speaker 2: think about some of the rules and regulations.

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Speaker 10: Fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure and partners. Andrew Callahan, good morning, very good

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Speaker 2: morning man. Tell you what that inflation numbers are happening

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Speaker 2: to be watching Sky Television when that came out yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and that's a lot hotter than they expected. And I'm

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Speaker 11: Yes, very very much hotter than expected. So Australia now

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Speaker 11: well entrenched in the three percent plus club on inflation.

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Speaker 11: the October month. Like I've been in Australia this week,

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Speaker 10: So here's the headline numbers. Caught on quarter one point.

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Speaker 11: Three percent, It was already expected to be high at

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Speaker 10: An economist's dinner.

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Speaker 11: She was asked what would be a material miss and

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Speaker 11: It was higher than that, so clearly well outside RB expectations.

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Speaker 11: twenty six. Interestingly, Mike, they've got similar issues to us

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Speaker 11: on inflation, electricity nine percent quarter on quarter, gas, other

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Speaker 10: Which is very good for a reserve.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of central banks at seven o'clock this morning. A

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Speaker 11: path of rate cuts. A couple of high level comments, Mike,

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Speaker 11: it seems the labor market is sort of gaining some

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Speaker 11: That recent weaker CPI print in the US probably plays

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Speaker 11: into that thinking of labor market priority over inflation. But

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Speaker 11: But Mike, here's the thing. Do you think the Fed's

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Speaker 11: recent announcements about these workforce cuts? Amazon fourteen thousand people

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Speaker 11: That trend will probably accelerate so I think concerns about

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Speaker 9: And then we got all this.

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Speaker 2: circus like, isn't it nowadays? Microsoft and Google and Ai

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Speaker 2: and open Ai and chips and and video and trillions

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Speaker 11: It's hard to keep up as it. So we've got

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Speaker 11: three of the big tech companies reporting. I think Greg

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Speaker 11: So you've got you've got Google, Microsoft, Meta. I think, Mike,

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Speaker 11: to do just concentrate on earnings. Earnings are real earnings

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Speaker 11: you need, and these companies will need to meet the expectations.

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Speaker 11: When they stop meeting expectations, that's when some of the

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Speaker 10: Out of the bubble.

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Speaker 11: to two hundred and twenty seven points Caterpillar overnight, that

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Speaker 2: You have a good one. We'll catch up tomorrow. Andrew

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Speaker 2: Keller has sure and partners skill always come to the party.

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Speaker 2: Dutch. Of voting as we speak, which you'll go hang on.

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Speaker 2: Didn't they vote relatively recently? And it seems relatively recently

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Speaker 2: So all of a sudden we're having another vote. Housing shortage,

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Speaker 2: sort of matter. It's a weird thing. So race is

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year.

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Speaker 2: Round and Guspin sent me anything too. He's got a

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Speaker 2: new film out. He did good Will, Hunting and Milk,

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Speaker 2: what have we got? We got dead Man's Wire. It's

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Speaker 2: based on the kidnapping in the nineteen seventies in Indiana

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Speaker 2: made a number of cours to the local radio stations.

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Speaker 2: This is on air now, but it's been recorded.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me, I'm not a rich man.

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Speaker 7: I'm a poor man, and that never bothered me.

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Speaker 2: But these people betrayed me, These.

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Speaker 1: People who were in common folk.

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Speaker 12: Give him a taste of the American dream and.

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Speaker 13: They're spinning right, Hey, Tony, I'm a man that's fighting

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Speaker 13: for everything that he owns, sir, and I'm not going.

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Speaker 9: To be intimidated. You're humiliated by anyone, all right.

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Speaker 13: I want a written agreement, I want my debt forgiving,

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Speaker 13: I want an apolecy, and I want to walk out

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Speaker 13: of here a free man.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Bill Scott didn't we mention him yesterday other day before,

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Speaker 2: So that's another one. He's done. Coleman, Domingo and El

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Speaker 2: Pacino anything else than Iman select theaters Jen nine. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why they do this. Maybe it's a bit

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Speaker 2: indie and they give it a whirl and what goes

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Speaker 2: to all the other theaters on the sixteenth of January,

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Speaker 2: So if you can't get to one of your selected

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Speaker 14: Put it out and select theaters so they can enter

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Speaker 14: the awards because the awards have they say that you

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Speaker 4: That's why.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, they're not streaming because it goes to all

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Speaker 2: the theaters on the sixteenth, So why don't you just send.

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Speaker 1: It the deadline involved?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's what it is? Yeah, okay, are

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Speaker 2: you going to go?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I never go to the movies.

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Speaker 15: I don't like it.

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Speaker 9: No, mean many of it.

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Speaker 2: Something you and I've gotten comment is that a pist?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a natural thing. But that's not an

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Speaker 2: Andrew Hoggart on some new biodiversit or buy security rules

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Speaker 1: the Mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the

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Speaker 2: Head be those an at leastion outdates is shortly twenty

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Speaker 2: three minutes away from seven back home we got new

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Speaker 2: buyo security measures. The idea is to protect the food

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Speaker 2: and fiber sector. Is the food and fire the sector important?

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Speaker 9: You bet?

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Speaker 2: It is forecast hit sixty one billion in export revenue

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Speaker 2: is the Minister for Biosecurity inuinners with us Morning What

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Speaker 2: Ike the border business? How much of that's idiots versus crooks?

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Speaker 7: I think most of it, or a good chunk of

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Speaker 7: it's probably people who mistakenly left a sandwich in their bag.

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Speaker 7: That's certainly a lot of the emails I get to

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Speaker 7: need to deter that.

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Speaker 2: Are we at risk and are these deterrents or as

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Speaker 7: Well, look at all of the above. You know we

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Speaker 7: diseases and pests out of this country. You know, we

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Speaker 7: did the work recently around what would foot and mouth

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Speaker 7: this really matters to New Zealand where such our primary

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Speaker 2: Do the behavior that puts New Zealand at risk? What

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that would be a you know, a company

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Speaker 2: To do with winery cutting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So these things do happen, and it's

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Speaker 7: you know, realiant. You know, there's a disease going through

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Speaker 7: to keep print from damaging our horticultural pastoral sectors.

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Speaker 2: Good border security, as we said here this morning, as Minister,

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Speaker 7: Look, I think we're doing an excellent job. I've seen

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Speaker 7: You know, the team had everything in place over a weekend.

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Speaker 7: You know, most people's expectation of government departments as they

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Speaker 2: How big a buzz in the community is they're about

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Speaker 7: To be honest, they haven't heard too much from other farmers.

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Speaker 7: I think everyone's other dairy farmers I talked too. They're

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Speaker 7: just sort of taking it all in. Possibly if where

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Speaker 3: Up a lot.

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Speaker 2: This has got a foe gone and all over it.

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Speaker 12: Quite possibly, Yes, all right mate.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you appreciate Andrew Hoggard, Minister for Biosecurity,

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Speaker 2: Mike to Pontira sale. The actual return would be very

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Speaker 2: A lot of the investment made over the years was

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Speaker 2: it's going to be an interesting day. Nevertheless, I mean

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Speaker 2: not just beautiful, they are supremely livable, crafted by the

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Speaker 2: trusted team with enduring value in mind. They're available now

442
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Speaker 2: for those who are already ready for your next adventure,

443
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Speaker 2: ready to elevate the old lifestyle and well being, and

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Speaker 2: for investors who know the harbor is always a very

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Speaker 2: safe but Catalina Bay Apartments is basically where lifestyle meets

446
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Speaker 2: certainly limited apartments remain flexible settlement terms to make the

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Speaker 2: move easier. So book your private appointment, have a look around,

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Speaker 2: see if it's a bit of you. Catalina Bay Apartments.

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Speaker 2: That's one word when you tap it all in Catalina

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Speaker 2: Bay Apartments, dot co dot in z pasking Mike ald

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Speaker 2: the Fontira farmer shareholder boat to sell, which they have

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Speaker 2: the absolute right to do. And the next time they

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Speaker 2: have a weather storm issue like down south, which is

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Speaker 2: a risk and cost of doing business, then let them

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Speaker 2: stop expecting the taxpayer to bail them out. They should

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Speaker 2: be treated just like any other industry makes you're part

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Speaker 2: of a collective. I don't know where it's come from,

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Speaker 2: but I've noticed over the years there's a theme that

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Speaker 2: every time farmers need assistance in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: They're sort of shunned by the rest of the country.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird, weird attitude. As an anchor franchise, we're

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Speaker 2: hoping for the new brand's owner to improve things. There

463
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Speaker 2: are a nightmare to deal with currently Tiptop loved the

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Speaker 2: new owners a lot less bs to deal with. Mike,

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Speaker 2: with you on the Fontier deal short term view unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Daniel International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Joe, how are you feeling pretty good?

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Speaker 6: Mike?

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Speaker 16: Coming you.

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Speaker 2: I'm extremely well now the Hungarian pea. I went out

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Speaker 2: for Italian last night, by the way, a new Italian restaurant,

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Speaker 2: and it was beautiful. I had some salt and pepper prawns,

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Speaker 2: and I had some muscles in an ink type liquid,

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Speaker 2: and I had some spagatata as they say, just absolutely malicious.

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Speaker 16: I hope they were local, not prom Italy.

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Speaker 9: It would have been a long way.

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Speaker 2: Away, would have been. Now listen to are this Hungarian

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Speaker 2: p and what's he doing there? Is he talking in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East?

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Speaker 9: Well, he has been.

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Speaker 16: Victor Auban, of course, is a great ally of the

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Speaker 16: Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney. They seem to line up

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Speaker 16: very closely politically. They've been talking about the Middle East,

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Speaker 16: Ukraine and the EU. Interesting to see that he's very strong.

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Speaker 16: He's a very strong critic of the EU, saying it

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Speaker 16: counted for nothing in efforts to resolve the Ukrainian conflict.

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Speaker 16: And I think Maloney's been very much more cautious about

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Speaker 16: how she responds to that sort of comment. And he's

491
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Speaker 16: saying that he wants to negotiate with Trump to end

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Speaker 16: the recent sanctions imposed on Russian oil because of course

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Speaker 16: the Hungarians depend.

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Speaker 9: On that oil.

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Speaker 2: Are they aligned him and her?

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Speaker 16: Look, they are pretty much, but as I said, they

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Speaker 16: don't really in line up in the same way on Ukraine,

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Speaker 16: and she is very much in the EU camp when

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Speaker 16: it comes to taking a stance on standing up for Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about this the other week, didn't

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Speaker 2: we This tax of Asian thing? Thought? I thought tax

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Speaker 2: of Asian in Italy was just a way of life

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Speaker 2: and you sort of didn't pay tax and if they

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Speaker 2: caught you then then good luck to them. But it's

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Speaker 2: getting worse. Yeah, I mean, there is plenty of that.

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Speaker 16: You tend to think that it is part of the culture.

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Speaker 16: I thought they were clamping down on it, but the

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Speaker 16: latest government data shows that the period just before Maloney

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Speaker 16: took office in twenty twenty two, that the rate the

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Speaker 16: crackdowns are not working, and the estimated amount of mixed

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Speaker 16: miss taxes and social contributions rose by about three billion

512
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Speaker 16: euros to a total of one hundred and two billion euros.

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Speaker 16: That's around two hundred and five New Zealand billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wowsers. Is tax and Italy complicated or is it just

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Speaker 2: people who simply don't want to pay?

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Speaker 16: I find it very complicated, and I think it's if

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Speaker 16: you're a permanent worker, if you've got a fixed contract,

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Speaker 16: particularly in a government position, a lot of your money

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Speaker 16: goes out the door without even any control over it.

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Speaker 16: I think people who run their own business, even though

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Speaker 16: there are many challenges, can somehow sidestep some of the taxes.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting this, AI think that you got going with

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Speaker 2: this naked. You know, it's all over the world. We've

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Speaker 2: got a bill in Parliament that was pulled recently from

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Speaker 2: a person who saying we've got to do something about it.

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Speaker 2: I just can't work out what we're going to do

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly. Italian police have launched an investigation.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean.

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Speaker 16: It's a website featuring naked images of famous Italian women

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Speaker 16: generated by artificial intelligence. Some of the images include Italian

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Speaker 16: stars like the screen legend Sophia Laurn and the influencer

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Speaker 16: Kiara Ferranuo has a very high profile. The website's called

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Speaker 16: Social Media Girls, and people pay to construct erotic and

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Speaker 16: pornographic images on that site.

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Speaker 2: It's a sad and sick old world, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: This skiing thing fascinates me. We've got a similar issue here.

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Speaker 2: So in certain parts of the country we're not getting

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Speaker 2: the snow we used to get to. Skiings become a thing,

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Speaker 2: and snowmaking has become a thing and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Is that part of the reason why the

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Speaker 2: ski passes there are up so much or not.

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Speaker 15: I hadn't really.

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Speaker 16: Thought of it from that point of view, Mike, but

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Speaker 16: that's a good point. I think it's more that the

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Speaker 16: particularly the Dolomites up in the north of the country.

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Speaker 16: I think they're looking to cash in on the Winter Olympics,

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Speaker 16: which we'll see beginning in February. Twenty twenty six, and

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Speaker 16: so access to some of the resorts up there are

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Speaker 16: very pricey eighty six euros a day that's double of

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Speaker 16: course in New Zealand dollars and thirty three six hundred

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Speaker 16: New Zealand dollars for a ski pass for the season.

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Speaker 2: Cheeze. You want to be passionate about it, wouldn't you'

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Speaker 2: nice to see you, Joe. You have a good week, Monk.

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Speaker 2: Thanks next week, appreciate If I get time later on

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Speaker 2: the program, I'll tell you about last night's dinner experience.

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Speaker 2: Not the dinner because you couldn't care less, but we

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Speaker 2: happen to get chatting to the owner. This is a

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Speaker 2: new place and I've become endlessly fascinated with hospitality because

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Speaker 2: in general in this country we've got this duer mood

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Speaker 2: and I think I've cracked it. And I've said this

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Speaker 2: before on the program. I think that the association, the

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Speaker 2: people who sort of sprook or advocate on behalf of

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Speaker 2: the industry deal in averages and that is the problem.

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Speaker 2: Because what I got some interesting insights. So more on

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Speaker 2: that late nine minutes away from the Myke Costing breakfast.

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Speaker 1: We're the defender and use togs deadbs next.

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Speaker 2: Point on Fontira. So far this morning might read the deal.

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Speaker 2: So far Miles hasn't put a foot wrong. At some point,

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Speaker 2: you need to back the people you put in charge

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Speaker 2: of your business to make decisions for your business, well said.

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Speaker 2: When I started farming twenty years ago, we were calling

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Speaker 2: from volunteer to make a basic product, to sell a

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Speaker 2: basic product. You don't need to own the world to

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Speaker 2: sell the world, well said, nicely put Miles could run

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Speaker 2: the country as far as I'm concerned. Now, performance sentiments

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Speaker 2: are related matters. From BDO this morning six months six

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Speaker 2: monthly survey, forty eight percent of business leaders feel positive,

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Speaker 2: which means fifty seven percent don't. Thirty five percent of

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Speaker 2: business leaders felt positive about their current financial So that's

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Speaker 2: only thirty five so that's not good. More than five

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty businesses take part in this particular survey.

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Speaker 2: Tourism the biggest decline and positivity, followed by retail, followed

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Speaker 2: by construction, agribusiness of course, laughing, fifty six percent of

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Speaker 2: those expected to feel positive about their performance in six

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Speaker 2: months time. Now the problem with that, you go, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: that's the majority. Problem with that is six months ago

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Speaker 2: was sixty six percent, So I don't know what we

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Speaker 2: read into that, because I'm feeling good about twenty six.

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Speaker 2: These guys aren't five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the ouse. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Also get you through Kelly ek Old Westpac's note on

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Speaker 2: the economy for next year. He's got some interesting things

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Speaker 2: to say, but I'll need to do that later because

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Speaker 2: right now, House of Travel have given me some data

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Speaker 2: about where we're going, where we've been traveling. The first

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Speaker 2: thing is we are traveling, so what cost of living crisis. Australia, Europe, Asia,

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Speaker 2: fig the US and Canada are the top booked destinations

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Speaker 2: for this year. Asia's the fastest growing bit affordable money

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Speaker 2: actually go somewhere. Japan. This is where it gets weird,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm super suspect about this stuff. Japan's cruise ship market.

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Speaker 2: We've never made as many Ford bookings for the Japanese cruisers.

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Speaker 2: I mean what, I don't even know Japan had a

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Speaker 2: cruise market. So anyway, we can't get enough of it. Northland,

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Speaker 2: where'd you go? Northland? The cooks and this is the

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Speaker 2: other suspect. Obviously the cooks had a sale on this

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Speaker 2: year and your book seven days and the cooks, and

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Speaker 2: they gave you a free coconut drink and a ride

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Speaker 2: on a scoot around the island or something. Because Northland

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Speaker 2: Cook's sales went up thirty six percent. Australia up seventeen,

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Speaker 2: Europe up eight, Auckland we loved, Fiji up twelve, Asia

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Speaker 2: up nine, Europe up four? Why catto? Asia up twenty five,

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Speaker 2: it's going on there by a plenty, Cook's up thirty one.

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Speaker 2: It was a sale, wasn't it. Towering You went down

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Speaker 2: to the local travel agent, you went what's good and

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Speaker 2: they went to the cooks. Taraanaki, Manawatu. Australia's up eight,

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Speaker 2: Asia up seven, Hawks Bay Cooks up fifty eight. Wellington

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Speaker 2: you love the cooks, mind you? If I lived in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: I'd love anywhere, Just kidding Wellington. Cork Island's up twenty three, Nelson,

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Speaker 2: Cork Island's up forty three. I mean, honestly, Canterbury, what

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Speaker 2: are you got in? Asia up seventeen, Cooks up thirteen?

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Speaker 2: Literally the cooks has been full a year. Hey, you

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Speaker 2: couldn't you can't move for love nor money. In the

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Speaker 2: Cooks West Coast, West Coast Asia up eighty percent. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, Otigo Southland the cooks. Everyone went to the

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Speaker 2: cour I didn't go to the cooks this year, and

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Speaker 2: I feel so left out. I am like night til

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Speaker 2: no mates, you go the cooks.

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Speaker 9: Of course I din'd.

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Speaker 2: Everyone went into the Cooks. I wentto the Cooks nine times.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. What a loser you? How couldn't you see

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Speaker 2: that the cooks was the hot place to be?

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Speaker 1: News is next the newsmakers and the personalities, the big

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Speaker 1: names talk to Mike, the mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way, News.

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Speaker 2: Togs seven past seven. So big day for Fonterra shareholders,

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Speaker 2: of course, four point two billion dollars decision the sale

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Speaker 2: of the consumer arm to Lacto Lees or like Talis.

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Speaker 2: John Stephenson is the Fonterra Cooperative Council chairm as with us,

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Speaker 2: John Morning, Good morning, Mike, result aside. Has this been

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Speaker 2: exciting for the farming community or not really.

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Speaker 12: Well, certainly it's one of the biggest decisions Fonterra shareholders

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Speaker 12: will make. It's been an eighteen month process. So there's

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Speaker 12: there's no doubt there's been really strong engagement from our

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Speaker 12: farmers in real interest and what it means for us

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Speaker 12: as supplies of milks.

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Speaker 2: How much is it just about the chair I'm getting

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Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars yes or no? And how much

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Speaker 2: of it's about the bigger picture of the long term deals,

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Speaker 2: what it means, et cetera.

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Speaker 12: Well, farmer has certainly done their due diligence on it.

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Speaker 12: My I mean it's important to bear in mind this

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Speaker 12: is our wivelihoods will be supplying milk well after any

656
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Speaker 12: capital return if the votes successful. So we've we've encouraged

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Speaker 12: farmers to look through the capital return they've engaged in

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Speaker 12: that got a lot of confidence from not just what

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Speaker 12: they've heard from Fonterira, but also we commissioned an independent

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Speaker 12: report on their behalf which reinforced what Fonterra has been

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Speaker 12: telling farmers.

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Speaker 2: As the ten year bit, you will supply for ten years.

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Speaker 2: Has that been an issue or not.

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Speaker 12: It's certainly been a hot topic a discussion between farmers

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Speaker 12: and Fonterra and certainly what Fonterira have told us and

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Speaker 12: we've had independently tested is that a Look, you know,

667
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Speaker 12: this partnership is really important. I think Fonterira will do

668
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Speaker 12: everything they can to make it work. It's really important

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Speaker 12: to make it work. But you know, farmers have been

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Speaker 12: interested in the water scenario, and you know, if you

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Speaker 12: look at some of the investments Fonterra is making around

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Speaker 12: advanced proteins and butter and UHT in our regions, that

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Speaker 12: worst case scenario, Fonterra can still carry on if it.

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Speaker 2: Comes to that theoretical question, how much of about today's

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Speaker 2: decision or how much about today's decision is because Miles

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Speaker 2: and co run this place properly as opposed to what

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Speaker 2: Fontira was once upon a time, and they told you

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Speaker 2: the same story, would you feel the same.

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Speaker 12: There's no doubt that there's runs on the board from Miles,

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Speaker 12: his management team and the board Mike. Farmers have a

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Speaker 12: lot of confidence in that. But also in the back

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Speaker 12: of our minds, Mike wasn't too long ago that Fonterra

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Speaker 12: was an entirely different story. So I can certainly attest

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Speaker 12: that the farmer meetings is still a healthy degree of

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Speaker 12: skepticism in questioning when Fonterira brings something like this in

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Speaker 12: front of farmers.

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Speaker 2: And your scenes say it goes ahead and the four

688
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Speaker 2: point two billion comes to their country, how much of

689
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Speaker 2: it's going straight to the bank to retire the overdrive

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Speaker 2: versus how much is getting spent in the community.

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Speaker 12: Farmers have repaid a lot of debt over the last

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Speaker 12: year or two. Certainly what I'm hearing from farmers is

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Speaker 12: that I'd like to do a bit of that. But

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Speaker 12: there's no doubt that this will, if successful, will be

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Speaker 12: a real injection into the regional economies and farmers talking

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Speaker 12: about what plant they can replace, what they can invest in.

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Speaker 12: But also given the weather in the last couple of days,

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Speaker 12: is already been plenty of generators bought.

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Speaker 2: Exactly good on your John, go well today. John Stevenson,

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Speaker 2: the Fonterra Cooperative Council chair with us this morning teen thirty,

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Speaker 2: I think is the meeting. We'll know by early afternoon,

702
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Speaker 2: ten minutes past seven. Tasking and money, good news and

703
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Speaker 2: energys and renewables. Now, this is a Malaysian company. They

704
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Speaker 2: set to invest in a bunch of projects here that

705
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Speaker 2: will total a gigawatt of wind energy that almost doubles

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Speaker 2: our current capacity. It's three billion dollars worth generates enough

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Speaker 2: electricity to power seven hundred and fifty thousand homes now.

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Speaker 2: Simon Angley is the head of Foreign Direct Investment for

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Speaker 2: invest New Zealand to anders with a Simon morning, Good

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Speaker 2: morning mate. These guys the noise, I mean, are these

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Speaker 2: big players? Are we going w who Yinsn's here?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: We are?

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Speaker 4: You know Jinsen has been a presence in New Zealand

715
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Speaker 4: for four years, probably a little bit under the radar.

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Speaker 4: We've been aware of them within our renew energy pipeline

717
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Speaker 4: for around two years and in recent times have been

718
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Speaker 4: supporting them through navigating New Zealand legatory environment oo etc.

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Speaker 4: So this is a big as you just mentioned, one

720
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Speaker 4: gigawotte of power equates to around seven hundred and fifty

721
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Speaker 4: thousand homes being powered. Put it into comparison. That's so

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Speaker 4: one gigawatte one thousand megawatts one hundred capacity is nine

723
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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty megawatts Manipuri, our largest hydro station is

724
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Speaker 4: eight hundred and fifty megawats. So yes, this is a

725
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Speaker 4: big deal.

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Speaker 2: Isy Insnol about wind all they do all renewables.

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Speaker 4: At the moment. You know, in other countries they have

728
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Speaker 4: exposure across a range of renewables. Our understanding at this

729
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Speaker 4: stage is their pipeline of projects is focused on on

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Speaker 4: shore wind and they have a solid pipeline of projects

731
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Speaker 4: that they're looking to deploy in New Zealand sort of

732
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Speaker 4: every twelve to eighteen months. As good as their timeframes.

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Speaker 2: Oh are we are we an attractive market of things

734
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Speaker 2: going in the right direction, because all I can see

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Speaker 2: is if we want to be data centers and open

736
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Speaker 2: AI and all the other stuff that's going on, and

737
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Speaker 2: we need to do a hour of a lot more

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Speaker 2: than we are currently.

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Speaker 3: Bob and on Mike.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Look, you know we'd love more generation. Any new

741
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Speaker 4: generation is good in our system right now. So you

742
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Speaker 4: just think about it from you know, a New Zealand

743
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Speaker 4: household suspective. You know, house prices have been sorry, electricity

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Speaker 4: prices has been quite volatile and we've had you know,

745
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Speaker 4: quite high prices. That's also affected some of our business.

746
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Speaker 4: So if we can get more generation into the UK system,

747
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Speaker 4: then we can stabilize our electricity prices. That's one. Secondly,

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Speaker 4: and you've just touched on it. You know, there's a

749
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Speaker 4: massive demand and increasing demand with existing business, but there's

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Speaker 4: also this new business that needs and demanding renewable energy.

751
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Speaker 4: So large projects like this can help stimulate that new business.

752
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Speaker 4: Your data fuels, new food, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, good insight. Simon, well done, Simon Angeley had

754
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Speaker 2: a foreign direct investment for investment in Zealand speaking which

755
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Speaker 2: is the team minutes past seven past, so open aie

756
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Speaker 2: there into the White House to substantially increase the US

757
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Speaker 2: investment in new energy capacity because they're running out let

758
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Speaker 2: right and center. They want to commit them that. These

759
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Speaker 2: are the numbers, they're just mind boggling. They want the

760
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Speaker 2: US to commit to building one hundred gigawatts of new

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Speaker 2: energy capacity each year. Right, one hundred gigawatts. I told

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Speaker 2: you the other day in a separate deal that was done.

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Speaker 2: One gig is fifty billion dollars worth of investment. So

764
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Speaker 2: one gig is fifty billion, so what's one hundred gigs?

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Speaker 2: Data centers, The GRIDD in America is already under constrain.

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Speaker 2: You've got problems. In Europe are a lot of dry

767
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Speaker 2: zones where the water is. These data centers like to

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Speaker 2: set up where there's a good water supply. If there

769
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Speaker 2: isn't a good water supply, what are you going to

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Speaker 2: do when suddenly the data center is sucking it dry.

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Speaker 2: Ten gigs is roughly the equivalent, by the way of

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Speaker 2: an annual power consumption of eight million people. They want

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Speaker 2: to do five times that per year. So the whole

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Speaker 2: world is going to start We'll need to start building

775
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Speaker 2: in a major, major way, and that includes us of course.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen parts.

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Speaker 1: The like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio News Talks.

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Speaker 9: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen past seven, So possible shake up to our warrant

780
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Speaker 2: of fitness system. The government's open consultation on a new proposal.

781
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Speaker 2: So the first WAFT for new cars lasts four years,

782
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Speaker 2: cars age between four and ten years, twenty four month

783
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Speaker 2: check and over ten years is going to be annual.

784
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Lee Marshall is the CEO of the MTA and as

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Speaker 2: well as Lee Morning, Hey.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Mike.

788
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Speaker 2: You into this.

789
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Speaker 14: We're into the review of the system, which we've been

790
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Speaker 14: calling for for some time because it's been probably a

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Speaker 14: couple of decades since it was last really overhauled.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, absolutely support the system.

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Speaker 14: I mean, as for the recommendations made mixed views, but

794
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Speaker 14: we'll we'll ultimately rely on what members tell us.

795
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Speaker 2: Okay, what magic wanders? You're in charge of everything, what

796
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Speaker 2: would it be?

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Speaker 10: Yep, so.

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Speaker 14: Good question. Definitely in support of campaigning to keep vehicles compliant,

799
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Speaker 14: so public awareness campaigns are out of safety of vehicles. Definitely,

800
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Speaker 14: full support for including the review of ad s systems

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Speaker 14: in the warrant fitness check as I've changed a lot

802
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Speaker 14: in the last ten years in particular, so it makes

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Speaker 14: sense to incorporate that. As for the times of things

804
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Speaker 14: and mixed views on that, and depending upon who you

805
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 14: ask in the industry, you'd get different opinions. I think

806
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Speaker 14: that everyone wants more testing. That's that's you know in

807
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Speaker 14: the industry, that's that's certainly not the case. It's a

808
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Speaker 14: it's a mixed bag depending on who you ask.

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Speaker 2: See I got I got an old car that needs

810
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Speaker 2: to go in every six months, and it's stupid because

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Speaker 2: I only do a thousand k's a year of that

812
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Speaker 2: in it, so that's pointless. But then I look at

813
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Speaker 2: I'm in a new car at the moment, I look

814
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: at four years and four years you can run through

815
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Speaker 2: a set of ties super easily, and if you're not

816
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: being checked, you might be on some pretty skinny tires.

817
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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean in terms of what's been proposed,

818
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Speaker 14: four years is an odd one for new vehicles because

819
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Speaker 14: I've never come across anyone who ever asked for that,

820
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Speaker 14: So I'd like to know where it came from.

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Speaker 2: Three, isn't it? I mean, currently it's three for a

822
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Speaker 2: new cow. You make it a bit longer, it's four.

823
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Speaker 14: Sure, and on a principle of less regulation, I suppose,

824
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Speaker 14: I suppose that's probably what they're going for, but I'm

825
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Speaker 14: not aware of anybody who ever asked for that. And

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Speaker 14: to your point, there are plenty of vehicles out on

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Speaker 14: the road that will I mean fleet cars. There'll be

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Speaker 14: plenty of fleet cars that do two hundred K in

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Speaker 14: four years. So that's a long time to not have

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Speaker 14: a test and a lot of use of a vehicle.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's see where it goes and we'll

832
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Speaker 2: get you back on the program at the time, Lee Marshall,

833
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Speaker 2: who's with the MTA year four years? If you're doing

834
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Speaker 2: I mean even the average person does fifteen thousand k's

835
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Speaker 2: a year, so you're doing sixty thousand k's over four years,

836
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Speaker 2: you'd both through a set of tires and that and

837
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Speaker 2: certain circumstances. For God's sake, Mike, stop these disgusting iceols

838
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: of turbines and solar farms hydros the only way to go.

839
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Speaker 2: Make you dreaming, absolutely dreaming. If you think, if you

840
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Speaker 2: think we're going to start building dams in this country,

841
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Speaker 2: have a look at the last dam we built, which

842
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: is in the top of the South Island, have a

843
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: look at the budget, have a look at the timing.

844
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Speaker 2: We are never going to be building substantial dams ever. Again,

845
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Speaker 2: very good peace on country calendar. A couple of months ago,

846
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Speaker 2: there was a farm in the wire Wrapper and they

847
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Speaker 2: had some windmills on there, and I thought, to the eye,

848
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Speaker 2: didn't seem bad to me. They had the sheep, they

849
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Speaker 2: had the windmills. I thought, you know, I can live

850
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Speaker 2: with that. What I visually worry about are these gargantua

851
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Speaker 2: Hawks Bay seems to be the place, these gargantuan soular farms,

852
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Speaker 2: you know, hundreds of thousands of and they say it's

853
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Speaker 2: all hidden behind a hedge. But then having said that,

854
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Speaker 2: you know what you and I think visually is a

855
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Speaker 2: lost argument. We're literally wasting our time. The horse has

856
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Speaker 2: bolted and this is the future, like it or not

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Speaker 2: seven twenty.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, part

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Speaker 1: by News Talks EP.

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Speaker 2: To mic is to build nuclear plants. You're baiting me.

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Speaker 2: I got something real for you. Get into this. It's

862
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Speaker 2: a great idea. Street Smart right hands on InCAR training

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Speaker 2: for young drivers. You've got to be amongst it teaches

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Speaker 2: the road's unforgiving realities. Now, this was a program that's

865
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Speaker 2: still but Tony Quinn, the Tony Quinn Foundation, they brought

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Speaker 2: it back to life, which is good. Now we've got

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Speaker 2: a company with backbone. We got Star and Shore behind it.

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Speaker 2: They're supporting. We've got Greg Murphy, Rald Mate, he's on board,

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Speaker 2: he backs the program, he loves it. That's credibility. Sabaru

870
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Speaker 2: also recognizes the critical need for practical education. Starr Insurer's

871
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: commitment means that basically, more young drivers get skills that

872
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 2: keep them alive. So forget all the classrooms, those computer

873
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: tests and stuff like this. This is about real world reactions. So,

874
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: if you're a business leader with a conscience, give street

875
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: Smart a call. Put your corporate muscle where it matters,

876
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: because they need the help. So, if you've got a

877
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: young driver in your life, for example, book them on

878
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: a street smart course. It's not a luxury, it's a necessity.

879
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: Forget Wellington, forget the government, star insured, the Tony Quinn Foundation,

880
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: Greg Murphy Sabaru. They are making a difference. So it's

881
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: about time we backed what actually works. It is street smart.

882
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: Have a think about that and if you like it,

883
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: get in Bold twenty three Now. I think the biggest

884
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: test for those who fell over backwards when Bill Gates

885
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: said what he did yesterday is not that he said it.

886
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: It's whether the people he talks about can possibly begin

887
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: to accept that they might be wrong, they might be

888
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of the whole equation, and that

889
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: is a result of the Gates revelation. They may need

890
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: we can only hope to readjust some of the obsessive

891
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: behavior they've shown these past few years as climate change

892
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: has become the maniacal calling card for too many. Not

893
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: that climate change, as Bill points out, isn't an issue,

894
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: because it is, and some good work has been done.

895
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: But where Gates is so right and deserves so much respect,

896
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: is that he has worked out that there has been

897
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: an astonishing amount of waste in the area. Lord knows

898
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: what amount of time energy and money has been spent

899
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: on too many things going nowhere. Climate change, he concludes,

900
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: will not Why pass out now? There are more pressing areas.

901
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: He's concluded his new passion is hunger. USAD has been

902
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: smashed to pieces by the Trump administration people as a

903
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: result of literally dying. In other words, he's prioritizing, he's pragmatic.

904
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: He's to be thanked for that. Of course, for many

905
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: of us, this isn't news. I mean, Gates is but

906
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: one of a growing group, whether driven by the right

907
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: reasons or not, who have come to the conclusion that

908
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: the climate obsession has gone too far and is now

909
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: damaging rather than fixing. The difference here the importance of

910
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: this is that Gates is one of them, one of

911
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: the disciples, one of the believers, until, of course, he's

912
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: decided he isn't. He is the best sort of skeptic,

913
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: a well reasoned, highly studied, and partial observer, brought to

914
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: the conclusion by the work. He's not a bandwagoner, he's

915
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: not an obsessive. He's an observer. He used his wealth

916
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: from a success to investigate the planet's big issues, and

917
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: he's decided climate change can go down the pecking order.

918
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: God bless him for that. The trick though, the important bit.

919
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: Can those immersed get what he's saying? Can they dare

920
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 2: to believe?

921
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 17: It?

922
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: May all need a bit of raining in or in

923
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: their eyes as go it's merely a deluded traitor. And

924
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: if they can't, but we do, how much further is

925
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: the obsessive reputation damaged as more and more of the

926
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Speaker 2: world sides with Gates and not the nutters asking, like

927
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: every new car has a service planned you to warry

928
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: to go? I mean, of course that's the point. I mean,

929
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: you take a carent for service and they're going, mate,

930
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: do you realize it?

931
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Speaker 10: Ties?

932
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: And in generally it's an ideological philosophy basically, isn't it.

933
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's more about you

934
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: and your responsibility versus a regulatory regime that goes on

935
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: tut tut tut tut tut. Really, I mean, and how

936
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: much of the testing is about indicators and all the

937
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: weird little bits and pieces as opposed to what the

938
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Speaker 2: basics are is do your breaks work and have you

939
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: got some decent tires on the road?

940
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 9: Quickly?

941
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: At dinner last night, my insight new setup, big cost

942
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Speaker 2: in the setup Italian gone and made a lot of

943
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: furniture and beautiful and it comes down to this. It's

944
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: about vision. Because of course, obviously the question is and

945
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: the parents of this particular owner, this woman who started

946
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: this restaurant the penis why do you really want to

947
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: open a restaurant in an environment like this? And her

948
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: answer was it's driven by passion. Life is short. You

949
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: dream big and you do what you long to do,

950
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: and you know, you go hard or go home. And

951
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: that's why she started it. And I've come to the

952
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: conclusion that's basically what a lot of hospos about. And

953
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: what I also told her yesterday is she'll succeed because

954
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: she's good at what she does. And this particular places

955
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: very well run, very well staved, it's got great food.

956
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: It'll go gangbusters. It'll be a fantastic success story because

957
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: you can succeed no matter what the environment. And people

958
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: are out there doing great things because you if everybody

959
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: just sat here going, oh tell you, well, it's not

960
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: a very good time to do anything as and no

961
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: one to do anything. So people are out there taking

962
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: risks and taking chances, and God blessed them for doing it.

963
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: And if you don't dream, you'll never know. So she's

964
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: she's one that's out there and I think she'll be fine.

965
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Noel and North you know the name.

966
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: I'll give you more detailed, shortly.

967
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Incredible, compelling. The breakfast show you can't miss. It's the

968
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, embraced the impossible, news togs,

969
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: the'd be.

970
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 9: Here you go.

971
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: My sons, Mike did streets Smart. I was talking about

972
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: street Smart just before the news. My sons did streets

973
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: Smart somewhat to infect Emma here at work. Brought her

974
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 2: nephew a street Smart course and she just raves about

975
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: it anyway, somewhat to keep me happy. He did the course.

976
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: About six weeks later, my twenty year old was involved

977
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: in a crash when the cars worked and turned in

978
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: front of him. His car was written off, but no

979
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: injuries to him or the other car with young children

980
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: in the back. He said to me, if he had

981
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: not done the street Smart, he thinks it would have

982
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: been awful. As his training kicked in. Everybody should do it,

983
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: so thanks for sharing about So there you go that

984
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: you can't be real world recommendation Ken you're twenty three

985
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: minutes away from eight. I'll tell you about Noveland North

986
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: and I haven't had time.

987
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 9: To do that.

988
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: But he's a big deal in the world of gaming,

989
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: so he's with us after eight o'clock that I'll try

990
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: and get to it before eight too, my dear, And

991
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: maybe I won't. I just can't used to menstrain himself anyway.

992
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: Where am I? I got a brewing scrap over migrant workers?

993
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: One in six employers are not approaching MSD to recruit

994
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: to unemployed. New Zealander is now the minister Erica Stanford

995
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: was now. We do hope she got her luggage, don't we?

996
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: If we checked up on that? Was there a follow up?

997
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: There's a classic follow up there? Didn't check on that.

998
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: Journalism is not what it used to be. I mean

999
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: she gave us the scoops. She arrived in Australia yesterday

1000
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: with no luggage and had to go to a night

1001
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: and day. Surely a natural follow up is there if

1002
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: you're any sort of journalist. But obviously it didn't happen.

1003
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Where was I. They're now suggesting employers could have their

1004
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: accreditation revoked. Tobias two Hill is the board director of

1005
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Association for Migration and Investment and is

1006
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: with us tobias morning, Good morning. This is an old issue,

1007
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean this has been sort of angsty

1008
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: back and forward for years. Is something material happened to

1009
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: something different now this time around.

1010
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 15: The Minister has said that any employer who doesn't engage

1011
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 15: with MSD is going to have their accreditation revoked. Accreditations

1012
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 15: and youth in the last few years where employers have

1013
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 15: to be sort of vetted by immigration yelling to be

1014
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 15: allowed to bring in migrant workers and have them work

1015
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 15: with them.

1016
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: Okay, do you think she's good to her word and

1017
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: therefore this will work and you will now have to

1018
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 2: go and look for some locals.

1019
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 15: It's a problematic approach because the employer may have a

1020
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 15: contact a MSD but not done it correctly, or may

1021
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 15: have not matched up what they've done in their job

1022
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 15: ad with what's been listed with MSD and then get

1023
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 15: knocked on the head for that. That's a job check

1024
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 15: applications to set process. The accreditation affects all of their staff,

1025
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 15: all of their moment workers. So it seems a little

1026
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 15: bit unfair to lose accreditation for companies just not really

1027
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 15: engaged with MSD correct MIST is.

1028
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: Not so it's technical as opposed to I mean what

1029
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: we call me old fashioned, But I mean, do you

1030
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: not just put an it out and say we're looking

1031
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: for a warehouse person and the applications come in and

1032
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: some of them might be from foreigners, some of them

1033
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: might be locals, and if there aren't the locals, you

1034
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: get a foreigner. Is it not that simple?

1035
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: It has been a simple in the past.

1036
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: It's more complicated than that. Now, okay, quite rules around it.

1037
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 15: Well, you want employers to engage with us MIST, you

1038
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 15: want to get New Zealanders and to work, especially with

1039
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 15: this high unemployment. But if employers are in somewhere like

1040
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 15: Ashburston and they've advertised and they've got one applicant for

1041
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 15: three months, and they've done it three times and then

1042
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 15: they content MIST and MISS doesn't get back them for

1043
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 15: two weeks ago, Well we've tried, and then let's the

1044
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 15: job check, and then get told well you didn't do

1045
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 15: it correctly, so you lose your creditation. You can't employ them.

1046
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Is that a real world scenario? You've just given us

1047
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: the MSD don't get back to you. Is that an issue.

1048
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 15: I've got employers who content mist got work breakers. The

1049
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 15: guy's on holiday, he's the person normally deals with them.

1050
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 15: Three weeks later, I haven't heard anything yet.

1051
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible, Okay, So what happens to the real world. Look,

1052
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get what a remissy even doing

1053
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: involved in the other If I'm unemployed, right, why aren't

1054
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: I out there hustling getting a job myself. Why do

1055
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 2: I need a government department to kick me up the ass?

1056
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm not in Misty, so it's me to answer

1057
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 15: that one. I know some work breakers worked really hard.

1058
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 15: I know some employers are actually getting stuff from a

1059
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 15: Misty for the first time in years at the moment,

1060
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 15: which is fantastic. And I've got employers have gone through

1061
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 15: this process, engaged in Missy and actually play stuff, which

1062
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 15: they're really happy about. On the other hand, miss just

1063
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 15: wants anyone to get into any job. They don't always

1064
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 15: match up the person's skills with the employer's needs, so

1065
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 15: and often employees are very specific needs, or they've got

1066
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 15: a job in a location which people don't want to.

1067
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: Move to very hard. That's where I've got somebody with

1068
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: employers because I mean, it's all very well saying, look,

1069
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: there's one hundred and twenty thousand unemployed New Zealanders. But

1070
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: you don't want the clown who doesn't want to be there,

1071
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: do you? You want someone who's keenan into it and

1072
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: you don't care where they come from.

1073
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1074
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 15: My brother works apples for years in the Hawk's Bay

1075
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 15: and everyone they got from MSD wasn't fit enough to

1076
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 15: do the job. Sometimes people have been on long term unemployeeds,

1077
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 15: me a hand and back into work gradually, rather than

1078
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 15: dumping them in a short term, hard physical job like

1079
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 15: meatworks or apples.

1080
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 12: Or something like that.

1081
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: If you could run the world to buias, would you?

1082
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: If I Wouldn't it be cool if you would? You

1083
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Speaker 2: just simply have people coming into the country who can

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Speaker 2: do the job, no matter. It doesn't matter where they

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Speaker 2: come from or what you know. As long as they're

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Speaker 2: good at what they do. That's what we should be

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Speaker 2: aiming for.

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Speaker 15: Look, since you asked, my view is that we should

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Speaker 15: open up migration with the Pacific, with Micronesia. Fiji's a

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Speaker 15: million people, so you graduate was there, But Thomas Amoya,

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Speaker 15: these huge workforces, the strong backs desire to work We've

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Speaker 15: got an open border with Cook Islands and it doesn't

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Speaker 15: crash our economy. It helps both countries and graze the

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Speaker 15: skill levels in both countries, helps money go back for

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Speaker 15: development there.

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Speaker 2: And I think New.

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Speaker 15: Zealand'sc got forgive me for a moment, but you see

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Speaker 15: on it's got a real shortage of people growing. At

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Speaker 15: the moment this high n employment, but each peak of

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Speaker 15: unemployment gets lower and shorter. We go back to skill

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Speaker 15: shortage is faster because we're aging as a population like

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Speaker 15: the whole developed world, and we need we need population

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Speaker 15: to tax space to keep our industries in our services going,

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Speaker 15: but also to maintain our country a longer term. And

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Speaker 15: I think the pacifics the closest to US can culture

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Speaker 15: and location.

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Speaker 2: Well done, well said. I couldn't agree with you more

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Speaker 2: to bias Tofhil, I don't think I've ever had him

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Speaker 2: on the program before, but we'll get him back. He's

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00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: my kind of man. Since you are hey, that's what

1111
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: you get when you don't you don't know, you don't ask.

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Speaker 2: It's seventeen minutes away from or is that the other

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Speaker 2: way around? Seventeen minutes away from eight pask turns out

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Speaker 2: Toyota didn't promise ten billion. Trump was busy sprooking the

1115
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: other day Todda's promise ten billion dollars. They haven't. So

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Speaker 2: Toyota was this morning said there's no explicit promise that

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Speaker 2: was made. This was when Trump was in Japan the

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00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: other day and they parked a f one fifty and

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Speaker 2: they parked a Toyota something outside the front of the

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Speaker 2: place they were meeting, and he said this ten billion

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Speaker 2: dollars coming. The topic of investment didn't even come up

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Speaker 2: when the Toyota chairman, Toyoda briefly spoke with Trump at

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Speaker 2: the US embassy event. So at some point they said

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Speaker 2: something about them, and that's that's I'm sure that's how

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Speaker 2: Trump runs the world. He says, has anyone promised me anything?

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Speaker 2: And that's our there's something about ten billion dollar. He goes, okay,

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Speaker 2: ten billion, I'll remember that, and that he just rolls

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Speaker 2: it out again and again. I think that's how things work.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen away from.

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Speaker 1: It, the Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1131
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Speaker 1: Power by News Talks it be.

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Speaker 2: Pal's cut. We all expected him to and he's he

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Speaker 2: is absolutely fizzling.

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Speaker 17: This morning, we haven't made a decision about about December.

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Speaker 17: You know, I always say that it's a fact that

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Speaker 17: we don't make decisions in advanced But this is I'm

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Speaker 17: saying something in addition here is that it's not it's

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Speaker 17: not to be seen as a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 10: In fact, far from it.

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Speaker 2: I like the way you have to explain yourself that way.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is just if you miss here's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's different, Mike. Think God, your previous interview

1143
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: isn't running the world? What reality is he? And if

1144
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: he thinks specific islands have the same culture as us,

1145
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: what makes them think that money back in the Pacific

1146
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Speaker 2: is good for our economy? Are you serious? I mean,

1147
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: the RC program has been going for decades in this country.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the great success stories, and it's been

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Speaker 2: loosened up. And all I'm into in this world is

1150
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Speaker 2: people being interested in doing the job I couldn't give.

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Speaker 2: What I would do is tighten up the welfare system.

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00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: I'd go along and basically run a dufust monitor and

1153
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: I'd go along and say, mate, you've been unemployed for

1154
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Speaker 2: six months. Are you a dufis or not? Do you

1155
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Speaker 2: really want to work or do you not want to work?

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Speaker 2: And if they want to work, I'll go get them

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Speaker 2: a job. If they don't want to work and go

1158
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: no them with dufus, I'd say, right, will your welfare

1159
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: is cut simple as that. It'll be the mic hosting

1160
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Speaker 2: dofist monitor and all go get somebody. I don't care

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Speaker 2: where they come from. We need more people in this country,

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Speaker 2: and we need more people working in this country. And

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Speaker 2: if you're an employer, the last thing you need is

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Speaker 2: MSD is supplying your Brian who hasn't worked for two

1165
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: and a half years and as a gormless idiot and

1166
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: is there reluctantly what you want people within enthusiasm, we

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Speaker 2: want to get into it in the RC program has

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Speaker 2: been proven over the years they do work. That unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: and we learnt this lesson during COVID that unfortunately a

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Speaker 2: lot of New Zealanders can't be bothered or don't want

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Speaker 2: to do. Kelly Yeah Cold from Westpac this morning. He's

1172
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Speaker 2: put out a note in the economy GDP will grow

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Speaker 2: to around one point two percent for this year, which

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Speaker 2: isn't the end of the world. Is not great, It's

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Speaker 2: not the end of the world. Previously I thought it

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Speaker 2: would be two point four, So that's where we've gone.

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Speaker 2: We retain confidence that consistent above trend growth is coming

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Speaker 2: in twenty six, so that's good business. Sectors and regions

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Speaker 2: directly tied to the primary sector are going to do best.

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Speaker 2: That's no surprise. We expect the strength and the economy

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Speaker 2: to broaden and strengthen as a result in the falls

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Speaker 2: in these borrowing cost ures. They're hinging a lot on

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Speaker 2: these borrowing costs, aren't they. Your mortgage is going down

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00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: and we're all going to go nuts eventually. Inflation heading

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Speaker 2: back down towards two percent by late next year, interest

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Speaker 2: rates will fall towards two percent. Question is for how long?

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Speaker 2: That's the really interesting thing. I am so onto this

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Speaker 2: mortgage money thing at the moment because there's a window coming.

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Speaker 2: There's a cut coming from the bank next month, the

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Speaker 2: RB next month, the cash rate. Are you going to

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Speaker 2: get some more cuts out of that there? I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's going to be any more cuts next year.

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Speaker 2: Then the next question in the conversation we're having an

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Speaker 2: election year is do the interest rates start going back up?

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Speaker 2: And if they do, when, which means you've got your

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Speaker 2: window between probably November to April May at peak lowness.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm officially calling it, peak lowness. And I

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Speaker 2: reckon I've called it at three nine nine. Someone somewhere

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Speaker 2: is going to do three nine nine. And when you

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Speaker 2: see that number, go for it.

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Speaker 9: So you've introduced do first inspections and peak lowness.

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Speaker 2: This morning, country's rolling already three percent growth it, Kelly

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Speaker 2: says in twenty twenty six three percent. If that's real,

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Speaker 2: We'll get them on and we'll kiss them because that's

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Speaker 2: a number we can live with, isn't it? Turn away

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Speaker 2: from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News tog zedb.

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Speaker 2: Seven away from another prize for the country's Golden Regional Child.

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Speaker 2: Canterbury remains the fastest growing region in the country. We

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Speaker 2: find out yesterday the wider region grew one point one percent,

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Speaker 2: which is seven and a half thousand people in the

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Speaker 2: year to June, christ Church itself accounting for more than

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Speaker 2: half of that. Ellie Adams is the CEO of Christ

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Speaker 2: Church in z and as with us, Ellie morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: I reckon they'll study this one day. There's a thing,

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: there's a buzz there's a vibe, there's a marbo about

1217
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 2: christ Church in Canterbury that's that's become almost magical. Don't

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00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: you reckon?

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Speaker 18: Well, you know, I would love to think so.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't that be great?

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Speaker 18: But I'd like to think we'd keep going so much

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 18: that that would be what they would study is the

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Speaker 18: city that never stopped kind of that momentum, because you know,

1224
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Speaker 18: cities go in cycles and an economic development it's a cliche,

1225
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 18: but it is all about getting that flywheel turning. And yeah,

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Speaker 18: we are in a really great position at the moment

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Speaker 18: where things are going extremely well for the city on

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Speaker 18: pretty much all fronts.

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Speaker 2: How much do you reckon This is a fun theoretical

1230
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Speaker 2: question for you. How much do you reckon as fomo?

1231
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Speaker 2: What started as a tangible and other words, I move

1232
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Speaker 2: my business, I start a business, I go for a job.

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: At what point did it become fomo and people went,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I've got to get to christ you look.

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Speaker 18: I think that's a really difficult question to answer, but

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Speaker 18: it comes back to that momentum point. There's no doubt

1237
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 18: that success grows success. So the more that people hear

1238
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 18: that stuff is going on, the more they want to

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Speaker 18: be part of it. For example, one of the things

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Speaker 18: we talk about quite often at christ Church and z

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Speaker 18: Ed is that Christiach has got these amazing companies here

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 18: doing really innovative things to solve global problems, and that's

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00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 18: really appealing to young people. That's something they really want

1244
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 18: to do. And the more that we can tell stories

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00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 18: about companies that are doing that here, the more that

1246
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 18: other companies and other students want to come here to

1247
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Speaker 18: be part of something that's really exciting.

1248
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: Do you have the breakdown how many immigrants versus locals

1249
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: relocating from other parts of the country.

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Speaker 18: I don't have the breakdown off the top of my head,

1251
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 18: but I do know that a lot of it is

1252
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 18: people coming south, so that a lot of it is

1253
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 18: people locating from across the country. And now all Plant

1254
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 18: has more people coming in from offshore, and we have

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Speaker 18: a lot of people moving from particularly the North Island.

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Speaker 2: Want have been out of control?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 18: Look, I think it's got its challenges. I think growth

1259
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 18: comes with challenges. I mean, one of the things we

1260
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 18: talk about in christ Church and Canterbury more broadly is

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Speaker 18: that we're a city where you can have it all.

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00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 18: You know, you can have a great lifestyle and a

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00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 18: great career. You can have a twenty minute commute from

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 18: an international airport. And managing growth is always hard because

1265
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 18: the last thing you want to do is to take

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00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 18: away what makes your place special. So there are some

1267
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 18: problems that come with it, but more opportunities I would say,

1268
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 18: rather than problems.

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Speaker 2: Well, God bless you and may continue for years to come.

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Speaker 2: Eli Elie Adams, who's the chief executive officer of christ

1271
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: Church and ZID. You will note in the numbers though

1272
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: the wider region at one point one percent one point

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00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: one isn't that great, but is the best in the country.

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Speaker 2: Hence the reason we did the story. And the real

1275
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: overarching issue for this country is the fact that we're

1276
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: grinding to a massive immigration halt because we've got the

1277
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: twofold things. We've got the people leaving, which is bad

1278
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: enough in the first place, but the numbers aren't coming

1279
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: in the way they used to. And we've had many

1280
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: a time discussing on this program, and I do worry

1281
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: that we're getting dangerously close to the point where we're

1282
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: going to be a net exporter of people. So, in

1283
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: other words, when your net gain it used to be

1284
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty thousand people a year,

1285
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: and it's now down to ten fifteen twenty. And if

1286
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: it goes much low, it's at zero, and then it

1287
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: goes to negative. Another words, you know, the number of

1288
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: people coming into the country from offshore just diminishes, and

1289
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: the people leaving the country continues. And that's a country

1290
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: that's going backwards. And that's the last thing we need.

1291
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: So if a country or a region like Canterbury can

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Speaker 2: only grow one percent and they're allegedly booming, there are

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Speaker 2: going to be regions in this country that are materially

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Speaker 2: going backwards. Right Nolan North, let me introduce you to

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Speaker 2: him in just a couple of moments after the news,

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Speaker 2: which is next year at news Talks.

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Speaker 1: dB asking the questions others won't the mic, asking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate, finding the buyers, others can't use

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Speaker 1: togs dead bright.

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Speaker 2: Seven past eight. Let us meet Nolan North. World's most

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Speaker 2: successful voice actor is in a wild word. Gaming is booming.

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Speaker 2: Gaming is three hundred and thirty billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 2: business this year alone. Nolan North and Troy Baker are

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Speaker 2: your dominant names in this particular Field. North's voices on well,

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Speaker 2: Assassin's Creed and dead Pool, The Last of Us, God

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: of War, the Uncharted series. He plays Nathan Drake and

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Speaker 2: the Uncharted series Anyway, Nolan North has been here as

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Speaker 2: part of Armageddon and is with us. Good morning, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 9: How are you listen?

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Speaker 2: I'm super well. Let me let me go back just

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Speaker 2: a little bit to that baseball scholarship. I know this

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Speaker 2: is a bit of history, but tell me about your

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Speaker 2: baseball scholarship at university. What were you you the next

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Speaker 2: Otani or what?

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Speaker 9: Clearly I was not the next so Tani. Yeah.

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Speaker 19: No, My brother, my older brother, was a pitcher in

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Speaker 19: college and he's now he's a baseball coach, college coach,

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01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 19: high school.

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Speaker 9: Has done everything, and it was just in our blood.

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Speaker 9: It was our thing.

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Speaker 19: I learned very quickly. I you know, yes, I got

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Speaker 19: a scholarship. We were fourth in the country at the time.

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01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 19: Great program at North Carolina. But I learned very quickly

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Speaker 19: that there are levels of talent in everything. And there

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Speaker 19: were guys that I played with that would come in hungover,

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Speaker 19: that were better than me on my best day. And

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Speaker 19: you know, they're just just the you know, the guy

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Speaker 19: who's just kind of tired to get and he's throwing

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Speaker 19: ninety eight miles an hour, and I'm I'm eating all

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Speaker 19: the right things and doing all the right exercises, and.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was. I was. I was a pitcher and

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Speaker 9: I was. Actually I did.

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Speaker 19: I knew that it may not have been for me,

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Speaker 19: because I had more fun when I wasn't in the game,

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Speaker 19: cracking my friends up, having a good time rather than

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Speaker 19: being in the game. And I think that's a huge

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Speaker 19: red flag for someone who wants to do that. But

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Speaker 19: the guys I played with, actually I owe a little

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Speaker 19: bit of a debt of gratitude to them because there

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Speaker 19: was a night we went out to a comedy club

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Speaker 19: and eight of us and it wasn't very good, and

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Speaker 19: they all joked around. We were all drinking some beers

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Speaker 19: and they said, you know, you're funny than these guys.

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Speaker 19: You should do that, and I said, yeah, I should.

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Speaker 19: They said, Nah, you wouldn't do that, and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 19: I wouldn't. They're like, they bet me twenty dollars each

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Speaker 19: that I wouldn't get up and do stand up. And

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Speaker 19: I'm not one to back down from a challenge. I accepted,

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Speaker 19: and it was one hundred and forty dollars back in

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Speaker 19: like nineteen ninety and I'm thinking.

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Speaker 9: That was for a broke college kid. That was pretty good.

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Speaker 19: So the following week that we talked to the owner,

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Speaker 19: and the following week I went up and he offered

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Speaker 19: me a job to be the new opening act MC.

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Speaker 19: So when the traveling comics would come through, I would

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Speaker 19: go up, tell a few jokes, warm up the crowd. Hey,

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Speaker 19: your first comedian tonight is from and I introduced them

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Speaker 19: and that lasted for a few months until one night

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Speaker 19: I went out over the crowd and my head coach,

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Speaker 19: my pitching coach, and the assistant hitting coach were sitting

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Speaker 19: in the front row staring daggers at me. And the

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Speaker 19: next day I was in the office. They said, you

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Speaker 19: want to be a funny man or you want to

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Speaker 19: play ball. I'm like, I want to play ball, sir.

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Speaker 9: So that ended, but you know, I eventually went back

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Speaker 9: to that and obviously much much more.

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Speaker 2: But then who key is see, because you're Nathan Drake.

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Speaker 2: What does it matter?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 9: It doesn't And Nathan Drake.

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Speaker 19: I can only imagine how he could throw a ball.

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Speaker 19: I mean, let's face it, I mean the way he

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Speaker 19: can climb.

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Speaker 9: I mean, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 19: You know, by the way, I always joke with people

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Speaker 19: that it's so much my career is is so far

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Speaker 19: less running, involved in what I had to do and

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Speaker 19: just the grinded, you know, just I feel like I

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Speaker 19: have more, you know, like I have more action in

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Speaker 19: my life.

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Speaker 9: You know, you could go out.

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Speaker 19: There were days you'd go out, you felt great, warming up,

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Speaker 19: and you'd go out and you'd get hammered. And then

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Speaker 19: there are days that you didn't have it and you

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Speaker 19: do great, and you know, you just don't have the

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Speaker 19: control over some of those factors. And I feel like

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Speaker 19: in this business, I have more control over my talent

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Speaker 19: or you know whatever that means. You know, I you know,

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Speaker 19: my arm feels great, I lose, my arm feels tired.

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Speaker 19: So this one I find it. There's a lot less

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Speaker 19: pressure than this.

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Speaker 2: So you can chop. Going back to the beginning, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you also did journalism and some stage work in New York,

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Speaker 2: the comedy, the acting, all of that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: But if I see it to you at that particular

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Speaker 2: point in your career, you'd end up in gaming. Gaming

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Speaker 2: would be massive. Voice work would be massive, it'd be

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Speaker 2: worth billions of dollars. You just couldn't conceive that, could you.

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Speaker 9: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 19: I mean I have people ask me this, did you

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Speaker 19: always want to do voices in video games? I'm like,

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Speaker 19: uh no, because when I was a kid, there were

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Speaker 19: no voices in video games. And I think that's one

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Speaker 19: of the things that always growing up in I grew

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Speaker 19: up in New England, and there's sort of an attitude

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Speaker 19: of like, you know, I don't get too big for

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Speaker 19: your breeches.

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Speaker 9: You know, stay in your stay in your lane. You know,

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Speaker 9: you know this is great and uh.

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Speaker 19: Hollywood acting in you know, I've done TV, film and

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Speaker 19: games and animation. That was that wasn't something one aspired

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Speaker 19: to do in my world at the time.

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Speaker 9: It was. It just it was never really an option.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Nolan hold on there for a couple of moments.

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Speaker 2: Come back with the morn of the moment. Nolan North,

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Speaker 2: Nathan Drake more shortly thirty, Impostle the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio cow It

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Speaker 1: by News Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: No the North is I guess, by the way, is

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01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: there is there the sign creativity and voice as there

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Speaker 2: is in front of a camera.

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Speaker 19: Yes, yes, uh different in a way. I would say,

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01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 19: you know, with my on camera stuff, what you see

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01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 19: is what you get. You know, this this is I

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 19: always jokes, this is the doctor, cop, lawyer, this is

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Speaker 19: the dad. This is this, you know, especially as I've

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Speaker 19: gotten older, it's the dad. It's but I have this

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Speaker 19: certain and you're certain, there's a certain parameter that they

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01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 19: will put you in. You know, you have to reach

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Speaker 19: a certain level of success before you know, like you're

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Speaker 19: Colin Farrell, and they'll put it. You know, they'll spend

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Speaker 19: major amounts of money to make you look like the penguin.

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Speaker 19: So most of us are. You know, you have to

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Speaker 19: you have a certain look that's you fit a certain

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01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 19: role well, the beauty and the creativity and voiceover, and

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Speaker 19: that's why I like doing all of it. I don't

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Speaker 19: consider myself a voiceover actor. I may be, you know,

1440
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Speaker 19: better known in that genre, but an actor is an actor,

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01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 19: whether it's a microphone or a camera or a live audience.

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 9: I did. I started on the stage, and my job

1443
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 9: is to deliver a performance that said.

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Speaker 19: There's there's a great feeling of creativity in voiceover. I

1445
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 19: can be the hero, I can be the bad guy

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01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 19: I can be. I remember walking up came home one

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Speaker 19: night from work and my wife is.

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Speaker 9: Like, I was work. I said, it was cool. I'm

1449
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 9: a I was a Viking beaver and she's like, oh,

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Speaker 9: I'm so proud of you. Is that good? What does

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Speaker 9: a Viking beaver sound like? It sounds like this. Is

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Speaker 9: that any indication? But it was just this is weird.

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Speaker 19: You can be anything. You can be anyone. I've played

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 19: little grandmothers. You know I've done. Your age doesn't matter.

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 19: You know, if you can vocally play these vocal gymnastics,

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 19: there's a great creativity and a fun and you know

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Speaker 19: you're playing. I joke that everything I got in trouble

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Speaker 19: in school for I get paid for now, and.

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Speaker 9: That's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: I like that now. I know Hollywood hasn't bounced back

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Speaker 2: post COVID and post those strikes with a lot of

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Speaker 2: you know, they're not making the movies the way they

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Speaker 2: used to. What about your will? Is that resumed some

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Speaker 2: sort of normality?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 19: Again, the great thing that I'm very grateful for is

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Speaker 19: voiceovers never really slowed down. They did have some strikes,

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Speaker 19: but the only projects that were struck were ones that

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Speaker 19: had yet to go into production. You were allowed to

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Speaker 19: finish ones that were already in production. And I have

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Speaker 19: jobs that I joke that are annuities. They've been going

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Speaker 19: for years and years. Call of Duty seven is coming

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 19: out in November, and that character has been going for

1474
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 19: over fifteen years. Destiny Star Wars, Old Republic, Guild Wars, Doda,

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Speaker 19: There's so many.

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Speaker 9: The downside of it is I'm usually in a booth here.

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Speaker 19: Since COVID, there's no more cast records where you're with

1478
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 19: your friends and you can play off the other action

1479
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 19: to your right or you're left. I've heard tell that

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Speaker 19: the wasn't as much the writer's strike or the SAG strike,

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Speaker 19: but the teamster strike really hurt because the production I

1482
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Speaker 19: don't know about their contract, but producers basically found it

1483
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 19: was cheaper to take all the actors and the writers

1484
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Speaker 19: and go to Ireland or Australia New Zealand. I was

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Speaker 19: up for a show that was going to shoot in Budapest,

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 19: so overseas the production costs are significantly lower and so

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Speaker 19: the US has to figure stuff out.

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Speaker 9: I think it will come back eventually, but.

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 19: Atlanta at this time offers incredible incentives through state tax

1490
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 19: credits and things. That's why it became Stranger Things was

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 19: shot here. I mean all the Avengers movies, Spider Man,

1492
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 19: Marvel was based here. They've since taken it to the UK.

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01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 19: It's all about money, but James Gunn shot Superman here

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 19: in Atlanta. I think DC has kind of moved into

1495
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 19: their old and there's beautiful studios, there's great people.

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Speaker 9: So we are.

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Speaker 19: Actors or gypsies anyway. But if you're not in Vancouver, Toronto,

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 19: New Zealand, Australia, I think one of the big hit

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Speaker 19: shows that a friend of mine is on it is

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Speaker 19: NCIS Australia. You know, it's it's like a hit show

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Speaker 19: in the States, all.

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Speaker 9: Shot in Australia.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's just it's a really difficult time in the

1504
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 19: on camera world in the US right now, and.

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Speaker 9: For a whole host of reasons.

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Speaker 19: But as people always say, you know, follow the money,

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 19: that's how it all works. But I'm I'm I'm open

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 19: to going anywhere to do what I like to do. Now,

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 19: technically I'm in my basement and that's where I work

1510
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 19: a lot, and that's and that's fine. It's super convenient.

1511
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 19: It's great when you're doing this kind of thing. But

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01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 19: I I really like working with other actors. That's what

1513
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 19: it's all about acting. They say, acting is reacting, and

1514
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 19: if you don't have somebody to react off, you know,

1515
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 19: Thank god, I've done this long enough.

1516
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 9: Where I kind of I can kind of hear it

1517
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 9: in my head a lot.

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 19: Oftentimes the scripts that I'm given, you know, the line

1519
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 19: I'm responding to is there on the page, so I.

1520
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 9: Will read that and then say my line.

1521
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 19: There are some projects where they give me just my lines.

1522
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 19: I'm like, can you adjust that so I know what

1523
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 19: I'm responding to. So it's all kinds of different challenges.

1524
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 19: But that's the business, you know. It always evolves, it

1525
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 19: always changes, and it's our job to adapt.

1526
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: But a great joy to mat and talk with you.

1527
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time.

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 9: Talk again soon absolutely and look forward to coming down there.

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Speaker 2: a play interview with Noldan North Mike how long before

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Speaker 2: his job disappears? With AI it So it's the question

1555
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: of the age, and I've got John Grisham on the

1556
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: program next week. Authors are facing the same thing. In fact,

1557
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: I can't remember the name guy's name. I'll find the story.

1558
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: But the surer thing they're the lawyers are after them

1559
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: already with all these characters and videos that are being

1560
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: created that basically steel identities are Cranston. Brian Cranston is

1561
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: the person I'm thinking of anyway. Mike, stop waxingly lyrical

1562
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: about christ Utch. You're selective with your stats. Well, I'm

1563
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 2: not selective with them, but it is the fastest growing

1564
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: region in the country. That's why we did the story.

1565
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: Auckland you say grew one percent, that's correct, christ Uch

1566
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: grew one point one. So Christiuch is the past of

1567
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: growing in the story. Mike, are they paid ads for

1568
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: christ It's no, they're not. Isn't it interesting how cynical

1569
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: people are? I mean, you know, success is success. It's

1570
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: just the stats are there to back the success up.

1571
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do about it. It's really starting

1572
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: to get super interesting for Starmer and the pending broken

1573
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: promises on the taxes with the budget coming next month.

1574
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: More from Rod after the News, which is next.

1575
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: Opinion edit, Informed, und apologetic, the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: a Veda, Retirement Communities, Life your Way news togs Head.

1577
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: Be seemingly some good news from the one tourism sector

1578
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: yesterday and to the cruize industry. And boy do we

1579
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: need as much help with the cruise industry as we

1580
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 2: possibly can give. And we've changed all the rules to

1581
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: make it next to impossible to do anything good in

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: this country. So Carnival Cruise Auckland is the homeport as

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty seven for the winter season, so in

1584
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: a park the Carnival Adventureship here, which is good owned

1585
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: by the American British Carnival Corporation, twenty nine ships all

1586
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: over the world, Australia's largest cruise line. Four ships sailing

1587
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: in this region locally, so that's good. It returns May

1588
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 2: twenty five through due Lie twenty nine and twenty twenty seven,

1589
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 2: so it means it's going to be based, registered, refueled,

1590
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: resupplied and where passengers get on and off. So that's

1591
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: all good news for Auckland. A p and O, by

1592
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: the way, merged with Carnival Cruise. I didn't know that's all.

1593
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 2: I read that east. I thought that was interesting. So

1594
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: nine cruises throughout the homeport season, so nine cruises they

1595
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 2: come back to the same place. It's all good. So

1596
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: that's good news for New Zealand and well done US

1597
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: twenty two.

1598
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: To nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace

1599
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Long may that continue withus not grow. Rod Littls and

1601
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: Britain Roderick, good.

1602
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: Morning, Good morning, mikel.

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: PMQ's isn't exciting, Starmer must be. I mean, how do

1604
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: you live with how do you live with the knowledge

1605
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: you're going to lie to the British people and you're

1606
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: going to be exposed come budget day. I mean it's

1607
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: getting worse by the day, isn't it.

1608
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 3: Well, it would be a problem for me and I

1609
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 3: think a problem for you, but it doesn't seem to

1610
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 3: be the slightest problem for Sekir. It's remarkable they are

1611
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 3: going to put up taxes. Is now refused to rule

1612
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 3: out putting up taxes, and that probably means income tax,

1613
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 3: the very very thing they promised they wouldn't under a

1614
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 3: hell or high water do a year ago, a year

1615
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 3: and a bitter coo and they will say that the

1616
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 3: circumstances changed, Well, circumstances always changed, but that's not the point.

1617
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 3: It's shaping up to be the budget of death because

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: quite apart from anything else they're going to put up

1619
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: income tax, They're going to do something with inheritance tax,

1620
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 3: maybe a mansion tax, maybe a property tax. This is

1621
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,919
Speaker 3: all a kind of spike aimed from the middle classity

1622
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 3: upper class. This was put in the Daily Telegraph today.

1623
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 3: National insurance is probably going to rise in some areas.

1624
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 3: In some parts. There's going to be no release for

1625
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: a relief for big business. It's harder for landlords to

1626
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 3: rent their places out and they're going to be taxed higher.

1627
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 3: It is heading us towards a real disaster. Are they

1628
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: speaker someone who is by and large on the progressive

1629
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 3: leftish side when it comes to tax station?

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1631
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: Is there a lesson in democracy for people because it

1632
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: wasn't like the British public didn't turn up and go,

1633
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: I tell you what this lot they look better than

1634
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: the old Tories. Will give them a crack. Or is

1635
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 2: that you were given what they promised at the time

1636
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: fair enough and you've been duped basically because they're.

1637
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 3: I think it's the latter. I mean, I don't think

1638
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 3: anyone voted for Sakir Starmer because they thought, here's the

1639
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 3: statesman to lead us into a brave news summit. Upland

1640
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 3: I just don't believe that the labor vote got them

1641
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 3: an enormous number of seats but very shallow. The majorities

1642
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 3: in many of the constituencies are in their tens and

1643
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 3: in their hundreds, and they could go overnight as indeed

1644
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: they are doing so. I think it was simply at

1645
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: least they're not the Tories. But still, you know, one

1646
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: has to put a degree of faith in a politician

1647
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: when he says we will definitely not raise taxes is right, okay,

1648
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 3: but absolutely shameless. But then they've been shameless. Sakir Starmer

1649
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 3: has turned, has made U turns. I've lost count now

1650
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 3: as the number there were twenty by October last year,

1651
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 3: so god knows how many there are now.

1652
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 2: So the next question then, how much of what they're

1653
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: going to do in the budget as regards increased Texas

1654
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: is about Look, it's a one off. Circumstances has changed.

1655
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: This is a beout as it gets versus it being

1656
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: a stalking horse. And actually, now that we've done this,

1657
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: there's more where that came from.

1658
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 3: I think there's more where that came from, is the

1659
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: obvious thing to say, because whatever they do, unless they

1660
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 3: really put up income tax by a whacking amount, both

1661
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: on the top rate and the middle rate, then they're

1662
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 3: still in deep financial trouble because they have fulfailed to

1663
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:41,560
Speaker 3: cut benefits. You know, their failure to cut benefits is

1664
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 3: the thing which is dragging them down and making them

1665
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 3: do all these things which are going to be unpopular

1666
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 3: with the public apart from those in the public sector

1667
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 3: perhaps and unpopular therefore with the voters. But they cannot

1668
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 3: do it. Belous, the backbenches of the Labor Party think that,

1669
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 3: you know, welfare that if it can never be.

1670
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: Cut, and then we come to Kabatu or whatever his

1671
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: name was, and so you turn up, yeah, eurek heavoc.

1672
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: Then they pay you to leave the country. I mean,

1673
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 2: and you wonder why reform's doing well.

1674
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: Well, that's it. I mean, you don't really need an

1675
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 3: answer from me, Mike. That is absolutely The Ethiopian asylum

1676
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 3: seeker who's sexually assaulted someone was convicted when to prison

1677
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 3: is paid five hundred quid to leave the country. We're

1678
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 3: paying people to leave, you know. It's a bizarre, bizarre scenario.

1679
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: They are nowhere near getting to grips with what to

1680
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 3: do about the assylum seekers coming here, whether they be

1681
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 3: coming by those boats across from Calais, or whether in

1682
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 3: the legal immigration, which way outstrips the number of people

1683
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 3: who come here illegally. And still they pour in, Still

1684
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 3: they pour in. And there seems to be no no

1685
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 3: appetite within the government anymore than there wasn't the last

1686
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 3: government to sort it out.

1687
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: No one's a bigger fan of cows than I am.

1688
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: But even I don't want the rely on Robin Beck.

1689
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: Is this for real?

1690
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 3: Is this is Lee Anderson, the reform MP, talking about

1691
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 3: the Motibility Scheme, which is something which really should be cut.

1692
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 3: This basically just gives a free BMW to anyone who's

1693
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 3: a bit disabled. I mean, it just beg us belief

1694
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: that we should have this, and he's right to have

1695
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 3: a go at it. But he said he remembered the

1696
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: good old days when disabled people if they needed to

1697
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 3: get around to abund a three wheeler, and he said

1698
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: we should go back to those days. And he meant

1699
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 3: the reliant Robin. And you remember the reliant Robin, I

1700
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,520
Speaker 3: bet you do. I've been in one once. It was terrifying.

1701
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 3: That was when I was about twelve, I think thirteen.

1702
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 3: But do you know, I think it's more cunning than that.

1703
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 3: I think that they know Reform knows that we all

1704
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: wish it was nineteen seventy two, that all Reform voters

1705
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: secretly in their hearts, which it was in nineteen seventy

1706
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: two when there were reliant robins, indeed fort Capris cruising

1707
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: around the streets. So yes, it does seem to have

1708
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 3: been serious. Best there we are.

1709
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: It's a different, different world. Rad nice to talk if

1710
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: your rud a little out of Britain back next week.

1711
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: Of course, by the way, spinking transport, half a million

1712
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: under sixteens in England are paid for by local councils

1713
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: to catch a cab or bus to school. It's a

1714
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: weird system. They've got over their council's pay that, and

1715
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 2: the bill's gone through the roof. Not surprisingly, six percent

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Speaker 2: of all pupils in England get council supported funding to

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Speaker 2: go to school. The bill is now two and a

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Speaker 2: half times what it was in twenty fifteen. It's sitting

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Speaker 2: at one point five billion pounds, which is well in

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Speaker 2: excess of three billion. New Zealand dollars just to get

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Speaker 2: kids to school. By the way, the latest pole which

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Speaker 2: came out yesterday, you go poll reformed twenty seven lab teen, Conservatives,

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Speaker 2: seventeen Green sixteen Libdems fifteen. Their interesting numbers, aren't they

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Speaker 2: SMP three eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: B Mike, the UK has got all the taxes out

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Speaker 2: left really want to look at what a mess the

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Speaker 2: UK's and bad taxes hasn't said that. It's a very

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Speaker 2: good point, Dave and related matters, Mike Howard suit is

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Speaker 2: that Hepkins and labor are pushing a capital gains tax

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Speaker 2: just because other countries have one. I've often thought that

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Speaker 2: that's an excusable excuse to use. It's just like, well,

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Speaker 2: if you look at all the other countries, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean anything. You've got to run it on its own auspices.

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Speaker 2: But you're right. If you ever want an example of

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Speaker 2: the country that is it's because the labor ish type

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Speaker 2: people have no business acumen in general. They have never owned,

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Speaker 2: set up or run their own businesses. They have a

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Speaker 2: passing acquaintance with business. They've read something about it in

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Speaker 2: a book at university or when they join the unions,

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Speaker 2: and because that doesn't occur to them, or it's not

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Speaker 2: part of their makeup or their DNA, the only way

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Speaker 2: they can think of raising revenue as taking money off

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Speaker 2: other people. That's all they know how to do. Story

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Speaker 2: we haven't covered, and we should have because it's taken

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Speaker 2: on new significance is yesterday out of the biscuit tin

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Speaker 2: we got the business of banning social media for under sixteens. Now,

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Speaker 2: this has been around for a little while. The Hawk's

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Speaker 2: Bay MP had it. We had her on the program

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Speaker 2: at the time and I suggested to her and I

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Speaker 2: think I might be about to be proven wrong. And

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Speaker 2: I alluded to this yesterday or the day before on

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Speaker 2: the program because they've acquiesced in Australia. And so the

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Speaker 2: idea was, or the problem I had with it was

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Speaker 2: nothing wrong with the idea of banning social media for

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Speaker 2: under sixteens, but you can't do it. And the tech

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Speaker 2: companies were kicking up a fuss and saying, well, we're

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Speaker 2: not about to do it here either, and we might

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Speaker 2: even turn off our services. So that was going nowhere

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Speaker 2: until it wasn't so at the Senate inquiry this week,

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Speaker 2: the tech companies acquiesced and they said, yes, we'll go

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Speaker 2: along with it. It'll still prove to be problematic, but

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Speaker 2: at least we will cooperate. Now that's a material shift,

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Speaker 2: and we were looking to see where it's and Australia

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Speaker 2: was nowhere until they're not. They are somewhere now and

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Speaker 2: as of December that rule is going to be law

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Speaker 2: and it seems that tech companies are on board. So

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Speaker 2: therefore potentially it's a thing. So if it's a thing there,

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Speaker 2: it can become a thing here. Should have been a

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Speaker 2: government bill but isn't, so it's still a member's bill.

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Speaker 2: But the government might now pick it up and run

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Speaker 2: with it. So what Australia started we might be able

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Speaker 2: to tag along to. So what this space nine to nine.

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Speaker 1: The myke hosking breakfast with the defender and use togsdbhow

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Speaker 1: you what?

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Speaker 2: Hearing loss isn't just about turning up the volume. Are

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Speaker 2: left untreated? This is the key. Left untreated. It's linked

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Speaker 2: to all sorts of things like depression and falls, even dementia.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's estimated it costs this country nearly five

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Speaker 2: billion dollars each year in lost productivity and increased healthcare.

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Speaker 2: So Resonate Health they're tackling that one head on by

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Speaker 2: making hearing our care affordable and accessible. So they are

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Speaker 2: Unlimited Hearing Aid subscription. If you haven't heard about this,

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Speaker 2: you need to know about it. Unlimited Hearing Aid subscription.

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Speaker 2: What it basically does is ensure people always have the

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Speaker 2: latest tech well an upgrade every three years and a

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Speaker 2: price that never rises. I mean, you can't beat that.

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Speaker 2: And for those on ACC by the way, they guarantee

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Speaker 2: the best funded offer in the country with the with

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Speaker 2: the top tier devices, no surcharge, plus the ongoing support.

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Speaker 2: So it's hearing care that strengthens families, workplaces, in communities.

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Speaker 2: So if you or someone you know is struggling with

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Speaker 2: the hearing eight hundred resonate which is eight hundred seventy

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Speaker 2: three seven sixty six two eight hundred seven three seven

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Speaker 2: six six two online Resonate Health. One word has always

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Speaker 2: resonate Health dot co dot NZ pasking Mike. I had

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Speaker 2: a reliant robin in the UK in the late sixties

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Speaker 2: rolled at five times ended up on the top of

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Speaker 2: the hedge. All four of us usually survived. Picked it

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Speaker 2: up with shovels and buckets. Good old days, the good

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Speaker 2: old days. If you are into F one racing, by

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Speaker 2: the way, the race which is a group of people

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Speaker 2: sort of in the weeds type followers of F one,

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Speaker 2: they're very good at what they do. They're highly knowledgeable.

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Speaker 2: The latest pieces are on the Liam uk Lad scenario

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Speaker 2: and what they've learned and what they know and what

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Speaker 2: the thinking behind Red Bull or in Red Bull is

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Speaker 2: at the moment. The conclusion I came to, I don't

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Speaker 2: know they came to a definitive conclusion, but the conclusion

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Speaker 2: they appeared to come to is that it's a line

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Speaker 2: ball between I've heard that it's Liam's safe, but they

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Speaker 2: seem to conclude it's a line ball. The lind Lad

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Speaker 2: thing seems real. That they're obsessed with lind Lad. He's

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Speaker 2: the next cab off the rank. He's the future. He's

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Speaker 2: going to take them places. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 2: do we offset him with Liam or Sonoda. So watch

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Speaker 2: that if you're in two, if one, five away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine trending now MS Warehouse the Real House of Fragrances.

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Speaker 2: Jordan my Lart is a great story. As Australian former

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Speaker 2: league he plays for the Eagles these days in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles, the fourth highest paid offensive tackle in

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Speaker 2: the game, by the way, burns about thirty eight million

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Speaker 2: dollars a year. Anyway, he's at the Philly Music Fest.

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Speaker 2: He's performed a song Valerie from the Zutons. Was that

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Speaker 2: Steve Winwood? I like Steve Windward better? Is it the

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Speaker 2: same song or a different song? Anyway? I made famous

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Speaker 2: by Amy Winehouse to watch you doing. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what are we giving that? Ten six four five Eagles

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Speaker 2: have come right by the way six two currently six

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Speaker 2: and two. As they say in American football, tell you who,

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Speaker 2: if you follow American football, who I've been impressed with.

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Speaker 2: They haven't watched the cults yet. The cults seem to

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Speaker 2: be this they're gone all the way. I haven't watched

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Speaker 2: them yet. But the one that have come to the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady's old team. Once Tom left, they fell apart

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Speaker 2: in the most spectacular and they were the world's most

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Speaker 2: useless football team until this year. And suddenly they've come right.

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Speaker 2: Just reminding you that patience is a virtue. The other

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Speaker 2: one that's come right this year. If you are following

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Speaker 2: the NFL, the Broncos, Denver Broncos, the Baugh a guy

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Speaker 2: called Russell Wilson out of Seattle, and he was going

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Speaker 2: to take them to the Promised Land until he didn't,

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Speaker 2: so they offsold him to the Pittsburgh Steelers for about

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Speaker 2: a dollar I think from memory. Anyway. The point being

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Speaker 2: is the belief once again seems to be working, so

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01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: they're coming right anxiety and felt, yeah, this is the

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Speaker 2: one different times if that's a proper song. Anyway, Back tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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