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Speaker 2: Welcome today a couple of bits of good news. We've

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Speaker 2: got a ski deal, we've got a decent economic forecast,

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Speaker 2: on the World Cup drawl last night, and Sidney Hugh

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Speaker 2: talk about their new movie. Joe is Italy Rodded is

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Speaker 2: in Britain asking welcome to the day seven past six

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Speaker 2: of the definition of madness of stupidity. Question for you,

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Speaker 2: how many times do you do the same dumb thing

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Speaker 2: with no result, thus proving your system doesn't work before

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Speaker 2: you admit your system doesn't work. The last of the

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Speaker 2: carbon auctions was held yesterday. You know where the story

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Speaker 2: is going. Of course, I first got interested in this

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago when it struck me that

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Speaker 2: this auction malarchy might be one of the better examples

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Speaker 2: of the sheer ideological madness that drive so much of

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Speaker 2: the climate policy, one of the reasons so many people

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Speaker 2: have got into forestry. Of course is it's free money.

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Speaker 2: You get carbon credits on land, and land generally is

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Speaker 2: as well a good investment, and free money isn't a

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Speaker 2: bad deal Libor also after a while they might pay

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Speaker 2: you some good day for you would So if trees

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Speaker 2: get carbon credits, why would you turn up to an auction?

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't. And indeed yesterday they didn't, not one person,

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Speaker 2: not one bid, not one credit. So now there are

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Speaker 2: four of these each year for the past two years,

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Speaker 2: no one has bought a thing. Ask yourself why they've

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Speaker 2: tried to price the units to no avail. But what's

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Speaker 2: really causing the issue is the government. Now to buy something,

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Speaker 2: you must believe it has value, it has to have worth.

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Speaker 2: Why would you buy into the government carbon narrative when

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Speaker 2: they keep changing the rules. This government is doing their

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Speaker 2: best to do as little as possible to meet their

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Speaker 2: climate emissions. Now the irony of that is I actually

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Speaker 2: applaud that because it's the right thing to do. But

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Speaker 2: given the rules keep changing, I'm certainly not turning up

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Speaker 2: to buy stuff like a credit that I may not

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Speaker 2: in fact need. The Minister, as I told you the

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Speaker 2: other day, took the unprecedented step of offering commentary about

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Speaker 2: the auction and telling us how committed the me is

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Speaker 2: to climate in the hope we would go, oh, well

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Speaker 2: that's okay. Then see it. The auction didn't work. The

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Speaker 2: auction didn't work again. Eight down, zero sales, no revenue.

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Speaker 2: How long before they pull the pin on a gargantuan embarrassment.

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Speaker 2: The longer this goes, the more foolish they look.

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Speaker 1: Wow, news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Now the whole let's get the war sorted seems to

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Speaker 2: have well once again, been a bus no deal, and

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Speaker 2: the Europeans still looking to the US for the magic.

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Speaker 3: There is only one person in the all worlds who

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Speaker 3: was able to break the deathlock when it comes to

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Speaker 3: war Ukraine, and that is the American President Donald J.

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Speaker 2: Trump. And he did.

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Speaker 3: He started in February to get engaged and he is

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Speaker 3: engaged up to an including till day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The British have decided more money is required.

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Speaker 5: Putin is seeking to switch the lights off and plunge

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Speaker 5: Ukraine into darkness. We will continue to work to switch

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Speaker 5: the lights back on.

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Speaker 2: They up a ten million, We've offered fifteen million over

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Speaker 2: night by the one I'm not sure if you were

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Speaker 2: this do million for weapons and equipment, which takes out

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Speaker 2: bid now to fifty three million. Not that the British

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Speaker 6: Course, defeaturing a boot in the four cut wages are

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Speaker 6: up more since the general election than in ten years

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Speaker 6: of the tours we've had up the five interest rate cuts.

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Speaker 2: And the harder he tries, the more KIMMI loves it.

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Speaker 7: Let me read to him what his own cabinet members

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Speaker 7: are saying, and I quote the handling of this budget

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Speaker 7: has been a disaster from starts to finish. Who said

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Speaker 7: that was it? Here?

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Speaker 4: Was it her?

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Speaker 2: In fact I think it was probably.

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Speaker 7: Her, Actually it was probably loving it.

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Speaker 2: The weather is shocking in various parts of Asia, including Indonesia,

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Speaker 8: Here in Candy, this is the worst hit district where

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Speaker 8: more than one hundred people have died four hundred and

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Speaker 2: And beck In Britain, the German president has arrived to

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Speaker 2: receive the obligatory red carpet from the royal family. It's

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Speaker 2: significant given a German president hasn't done that for twenty

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Speaker 5: There is less interest, i would say from them of

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Speaker 2: Stop indeed, and that is news of the world. In

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Speaker 2: ninety surprisingly, the Malaysian government have announced that their deep

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Speaker 2: sea search this is MH three seventy winded MH three

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Speaker 2: seventy happy happened twenty fourteen. The flight was Kuala Lumpur

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Speaker 2: to Beijing. They are going to resume the search again

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Speaker 2: on December thirty. US based marine robotics firm Ocean Infinity,

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Speaker 2: they've been part of it before. Of course, they're going

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Speaker 2: to carry out the operation intermittently for a period of

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Speaker 2: fifty five days. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 9: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: The Fabergeteg we told you about the other day that

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Speaker 2: was up for auction. It was last night, the Winter

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Speaker 2: Egg it was called. It was at Christie's and it

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Speaker 2: good morning, Mike, GDP number. What happened there?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is the Australian so we've got.

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Speaker 10: Lots of anticipation building in the local market about our

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Speaker 10: quite optimistic numbers for that release, Mike. December eighteenth, I

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Speaker 10: But by way of comparison, across the Tasman they had

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Speaker 10: it's still the fastest expansion of growth in about two

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Speaker 10: The general view, what I can ascertain, Mike, over what

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Speaker 10: I've been reading is that even though that the headline

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Speaker 9: And actually the.

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Speaker 10: So an interesting one, but it looks like next to you,

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Speaker 10: we could grow faster than the Aussies.

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Speaker 2: Praise the Lord. Now, speaking of data, what happened in America?

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Speaker 10: Oh, look, Mike, there's still they're still in catch up

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Speaker 9: Still very messy.

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Speaker 10: There's a whole lot of data they say will come

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Speaker 10: A lot of it's a little bit stale, lots of

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Speaker 9: Overnight, we got some more current.

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Speaker 10: Data, these what they call the ADPM deployment numbers, which

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Speaker 9: It wasn't very good, Mike.

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Speaker 10: US companies have shared payer or in November by the

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Speaker 10: most since twenty twenty three. So private sector payrolls have

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Speaker 10: The headline number of that ISM was okay, mate, but

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Speaker 10: weakness in the labor market, which is something I don't

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Speaker 10: think the Trump administration wants to see.

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Speaker 2: No, indeed, not this Anthropic thing one is going to happen,

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Speaker 2: and two if it does, is it the biggest thing

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, we're talking AI now.

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Speaker 10: Now everybody knows about open AI, and Anthropic probably not

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Speaker 10: quite as well known, but it's the sort of a

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Speaker 9: They've got the clawed chatbot.

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Speaker 10: They've taken a significant step towards listing towards an IPO

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Speaker 10: the groundwork for that IPO. They've just got to start

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Speaker 10: to gauge public appetite. I think here might because these

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Speaker 10: even though they're sort of front and center and everybody's

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Speaker 10: using them and they're the biggest story ever, they're still great,

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Speaker 10: big loss making businesses. They could be worth hundreds of

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Speaker 10: billions of dollars if they do go to IPO. But

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Speaker 10: it's going to be interesting to see whether the public.

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Speaker 10: I know we all love AI, but do you want

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Speaker 10: to invest in something that's not actually making any money?

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Speaker 2: Yes, very good question. What are the numbers?

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Speaker 10: The Dow Jones is up two hundred ninety points forty

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Speaker 10: seven thousand, seven hundred and sixty eight, so that's all good,

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Speaker 10: point six percent five hundred eking out again up twelve

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Speaker 9: Oh, that's point one seven percent.

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Speaker 9: Let's call it fly.

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Speaker 10: It's just gone up a little bit, actually, up seventeen

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Speaker 10: points point zero eight percent, twenty three thousand, four hundred

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing I'm talking about. People are spending in America,

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Speaker 2: Obviously the breakdown and talks as regards the war, Joe's

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Speaker 2: the heavy economic lifting Headwater's farmers. There behind Lumen and

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Speaker 2: Now Steve Brown's the boss at Headwaters and Lumina and

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Speaker 2: is with us. Steve, morning to you, Good morning, Mike,

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Speaker 2: pleaded to be here. Now Beef gets the headlines. But

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Speaker 2: of course, is there a good LAMB story And is

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Speaker 15: It's a good question. I think Lamb is generally a

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Speaker 15: So it's a great story that started about twenty years

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. So you're the quality story, aren't you. You're the

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. There will always be people who will

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Speaker 15: That's exactly it. So I think where these farmers wanted

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Speaker 15: the strength of the brand, the lumin of brand, is

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask about that, how much of

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Speaker 15: It's virtually one hundred percent into food service and restaurants.

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Speaker 14: So we trial.

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Speaker 15: I think a few of our distributors and markets look

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Speaker 2: What's your potential do you think?

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Speaker 15: Yes, twenty years and we still call ourselves a startup.

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Speaker 15: We've grown from fifty thousand lambs in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: How big of the Sound East, Well, how big will

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Speaker 15: The feedback's been really positive and we are only in

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Speaker 2: Great story. Well and Steve appreciate it very much. De

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Speaker 2: much as they won last time. But then again, it

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Speaker 2: never is in an off peak election, isn't it. So

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Speaker 2: the upshot was the Republican's one, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: the end of it.

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Speaker 1: So it's forty five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business and Italy.

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Speaker 2: Jne A ken A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Good morning Mike, and no Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And to you as well. Now, now this whole talk

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Speaker 2: we've had in Russia the last couple of days, the

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Speaker 2: war's not going to end. I mean we're we's it'ly

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Speaker 2: get with all of that.

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Speaker 16: Well, there has been some tension inside the cabinet between

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Speaker 16: the Prime Minister Georgia Maloney's right wing party and her

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Speaker 16: partner there Matteo Slovini from the League. They seem to

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Speaker 16: have delayed this decree that would allow more supplies to

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Speaker 16: move from Italy to Ukraine. But the Prime Minister was

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Speaker 16: really staunchly defending Italy's defense today when she spoke to

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Speaker 16: the media in the Middle East. She's there for a

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Speaker 16: Gulf summit. She said that the decree will be passed

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Speaker 16: by the end of the year. Italy will continue to

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Speaker 16: support Ukraine to defend its of as long as there

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Speaker 16: is a war. So she's been quite consistent on that

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Speaker 16: message and insists that they will get their act together

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Speaker 16: by the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: In what way, because every time they have a meeting,

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Speaker 2: goes back to Russia and Russia goes no thanks, and

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Speaker 2: that's the and so run around we go.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: I mean, she says that they're committed to working, of

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Speaker 16: course with the other EU leaders for peace, but in

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Speaker 16: terms of getting her act together with her coalition, I'm

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Speaker 16: wondering if she just doesn't mind that Selvini is the

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Speaker 16: voice of opposition talking to some people that inside Italy

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Speaker 16: that might be disillusioned with Italy's continued support for Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then we come to another matter of concern globally.

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Speaker 2: This is Madeira and Trump and his relationship with him.

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Speaker 2: So the pope waves and what you read on the

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Speaker 2: Pope so far is he political?

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Speaker 16: Look, I think he's stepping up. He's riding high after

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Speaker 16: this first overseas trip that he's made to Lebanon and Turkey.

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Speaker 16: Prize to see how much interaction he was having with

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Speaker 16: the media aboard the flight, also speaking English, which he

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Speaker 16: doesn't do very often, and also giving some of his

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Speaker 16: presentations abroad in English. He's stepping it up, and he's

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Speaker 16: urging the President Donald Trump to not to intervene in Venezuela,

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Speaker 16: not to oost the president Nicholas Maduro using military force,

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Speaker 16: and a direct appeal to Trump. I think to reconsider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, your unemployment rate, what's it at now?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, we're seeing employment at sixty two point seven percent,

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Speaker 16: but when we look at the unemployment rate, it's around

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Speaker 16: six percent. And I think what's really worrying is that

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Speaker 16: use unemployment is still around twenty percent, So we shouldn't

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Speaker 16: be too excited about that.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's always the way, though, isn't it of you do

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Speaker 2: you have that we have this big debate in this country.

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Speaker 2: Too many kids to leave school without the qualifications. There's

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Speaker 2: not enough channels to go from school into something that

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Speaker 2: actually needs people working for them, so they all end

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Speaker 2: u unemployed. Is it the same there?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, And I think we see a big division two

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Speaker 16: mike between the north of Italy and the south of Italy.

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Speaker 16: Is just not enough opportunities down south, and kids are

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Speaker 16: languishing and not really moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Very very sad. Now these luxury brands, this has been

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Speaker 2: going on for a while. I'm glad it's being paid

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Speaker 2: some attenation to because of course this is not about

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Speaker 2: the ripops that you find in a Chinese market, but

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Speaker 2: these guys, these big name brands, and whether or not

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Speaker 2: they use these third world sweatshops and yet still charge

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Speaker 2: your first world money.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think that's really interesting. And I think these,

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Speaker 16: as you say, these luxury brands are very much the

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Speaker 16: big names in Italy. They're seen as you know, soft culture,

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Speaker 16: cultural diplomacy, as well as of course very important economically.

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Speaker 16: And five fashion brands are under court administration after an

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Speaker 16: investigation by Milan prosecutors. And it's really about the worker

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Speaker 16: abuse in the supply chains inside Italy, and I think

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Speaker 16: that's also interesting too, not just the offshore stuff.

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Speaker 2: Interesting all right, Josephine, you have a fantastic break, and

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Speaker 2: I'm away for a short, very short period of time,

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Speaker 2: and then before you know it, we'll be back together

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 16: Do you go all the bets have a great time.

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Speaker 2: Joe McKennis, she's delightful. Bulgaria, by the way, just before

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Speaker 2: we leave that particular part of the world, they're withdrawing

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Speaker 2: a budget plan. Huge rallies over the weekend, not the

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Speaker 2: first of the rallies. Have been many rallies, but this

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Speaker 2: was a particularly big one. So next year's budget it's

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Speaker 2: to be delivered in euros, which is a first. Because

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Speaker 2: they joined the Eurozone as the beginning of this year.

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Speaker 2: Public opinion over adopting the Euro is always a problem.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Italy, I remember being in Italy when the

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Speaker 2: leraate went and the Euro arrived, and my brother in

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Speaker 2: law was like beside himself, and he was right too,

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Speaker 2: he said, you're not going to be able to afforard

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Speaker 2: a thing anyway. Protests against the government corruptions, the old

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Speaker 2: story in Bulgaria they look to increase social security contributions,

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Speaker 2: taxes on dividends, and that finance is highest spending. Basically,

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Speaker 2: the people didn't want it, and so they've been successful.

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Speaker 2: It's been dropped ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: So my costing breakfast with Vida Retirement Communities News togsad been.

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Speaker 2: Mike, is there anywhere in New Zealand you can buy

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Speaker 2: that lamb? Or does it? We'll go over seas pret

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Speaker 2: I don't actually know. It's not a bad question, but

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Speaker 2: those sort of niche products tend to be available in

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Speaker 2: limited supply locally. If you want to you generally have

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Speaker 2: to go to the source in that sense. But I'm

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Speaker 2: sure a bit of homework can do that for you.

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Speaker 2: Pete Hexth, By the way, it's going to be interesting

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Speaker 2: to see where this goes. So tomorrow the publicly released

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Speaker 2: version unclassified version of the old signal gate remember signal.

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Speaker 2: Back in March he risked this is the report he

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Speaker 2: risked compromising sensitive military information. Inspector General has done the report.

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Speaker 2: Four sources of leaked so far. It's already gone to

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Speaker 2: the Senate. He offered specific, real time updates about planned

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Speaker 2: military strikes. They were so specific that one even read

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Speaker 2: this is when the first bombs will drop. So you

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Speaker 2: remember that particular story. They said, it's no big deal,

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Speaker 2: he didn't do anything wrong. But that's what Pete says. Now,

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Speaker 2: dovetail that with the business of the second strike in

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Speaker 2: the potential war crime and Trump's measure comments of support.

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Speaker 2: And I just wonder if before Christmas Pete's going to

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Speaker 2: be sent home to find another job. We'll be interested

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Speaker 2: to see where that goes. Tomorrow five to seven.

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Speaker 1: B the ins and the ouse. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Our report from uber each this morning our most ordered

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Speaker 2: dishes and trends. They generate roughly one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: million dollars per year for business as seventy percent of

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Speaker 2: users say they've discovered a new restaurant because of this. Now,

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Speaker 2: the busiest day of the year for the North Island

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Speaker 2: was June twenty seven. It was a cold day, so

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Speaker 2: basically we're lazy. We can't be bothered going out South

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Speaker 2: Island fifth of October. That was the last day of

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Speaker 2: the school holidays. Now, the most ordered dish of the

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Speaker 2: year butter chicken and the garlic Nan of course, all

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Speaker 2: was thirty thousand times. We ordered that. We love the

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Speaker 2: zero sugar. These days we're into the healthy drinks. Orders

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Speaker 2: for zero sugar drinks are up twelve hundred percent compared

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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three. Match your orders up three hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: We love Super Bowl or finals, big sport events. Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: we ordered a lot of fried chicken. Salt was the

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Speaker 2: most popular add on, followed by cheeseburgers and pickles. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure cheeseburger's an add on. I mean you sort

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Speaker 2: of order whatever you already added cheeseburger, and also.

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Speaker 17: You're adding salt onto whatever it is that you're getting.

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Speaker 2: Precise What was the most ordered coffee? Flat white? Why

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Speaker 2: you'd order coffee to be the livered I've got no idea,

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Speaker 2: because it'll be cold. First of all, they get lost

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Speaker 2: going around the blanc, and then by the time they

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Speaker 2: get there, the lids come off and half of it's spilled,

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Speaker 2: and it's cold. Why do you order your coffee? Do

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Speaker 2: we tip? Sort of? North Island average of two fifty

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Speaker 2: South Island two forty one. One person had twelve hundred orders,

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Speaker 2: cookie pies being the thing they ordered most. Someone made

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Speaker 2: twenty fail orders. In the same day. The most expensive

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Speaker 2: order was for twenty ninety two dollars. Weirdest order fifty

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Speaker 2: one bananas. But we you've forgot you know what, Jason's lemons.

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Speaker 2: Jason's lemits. Surely that goes into the headline, Jason, if

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Speaker 2: you missed the story at the time, something happened to

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Speaker 2: my limits count what oh, that's right, my water got

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Speaker 2: thrown out ahead no limits. So Jason ordered ubered some

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Speaker 2: lemons and they got lost as well, didn't they? So anyway,

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Speaker 2: news for you in a couple of moments. Then we've

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Speaker 2: got a couple more reports on the economy of relatively

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Speaker 2: good news.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names. Talk to

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Speaker 1: Mike the mic asking breakfast where the defender embraced the

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Speaker 1: impossible news toksad.

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Speaker 2: Be seven to the Andrew caster Saga, as you'll be

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Speaker 2: well aware, has come to a conclusion. We have a

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Speaker 2: resignation and an apology. It follows the IPCA review into

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Speaker 2: the handling of the MC skimming complaints of Brian Roach's

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Speaker 2: the Public Services Commissioner, of course, and is back with us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning. Was this a time

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Speaker 2: play on your partner which you were looking to direct

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Speaker 2: them to where he got.

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Speaker 18: I think it was just a process. He finally got

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Speaker 18: to the point many others had got to. I think

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Speaker 18: he's got to the right place. It took three weeks,

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Speaker 18: which is longer than some of us would alight, but

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Speaker 18: it was important we got the right outcome, and I

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Speaker 18: think we have.

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Speaker 2: How was the ball in his court?

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Speaker 18: Ultimately? I had decision rights, but he also had decision rights.

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Speaker 18: He exercised those before I had to do anything else.

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Speaker 2: Was he aware you would have sacked him?

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Speaker 18: I think it was very clear to him that that

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Speaker 18: was a likely outcome.

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Speaker 2: So you at no point you said, listen, mate, I'd

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Speaker 2: like you to just write a letter and be nice

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Speaker 2: about it. If you can't, I'm going to sack you.

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Speaker 2: So nothing like that was ever exchanged.

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Speaker 15: We didn't do We didn't do that.

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Speaker 18: But you know, he has spent a lot of time

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Speaker 18: considering his position and what defense, if any, he had,

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Speaker 18: And I think his public statements are very clear that

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Speaker 18: he's taken a very difficult, but I think appropriate decision.

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Speaker 18: He's accepted responsibility, express regret, and apologized he's lost his job.

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Speaker 18: I'm really not sure what more he could do.

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Speaker 2: Did he move ground significantly? I was told earlier on

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Speaker 2: he was, if not a ghast at it, certainly surprised

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Speaker 2: he couldn't work out what he'd done wrong. Was that fair?

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Speaker 18: I think it's become a little while to learn the magnitude.

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Speaker 18: But he is not a stupid person or in any

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Speaker 18: form of denial. It just he absorbed the IPSA report,

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Speaker 18: as he said, he was shocked when he read the

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Speaker 18: totality of what went on.

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Speaker 2: The apology in his wording, is that all him?

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Speaker 18: It's him and me?

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Speaker 4: I think he.

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Speaker 18: Those words are his words, are not my words. But

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Speaker 18: I strongly endorse what he's done, and I think it

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Speaker 18: shows account accountability in action. We don't see a lot

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Speaker 18: of it.

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Speaker 2: No, I was just what I want to know. Is

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Speaker 2: he genuine in the apology? I mean he's come to

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Speaker 2: a conclusion that he's genuinely sorry, he genuinely made a mistake,

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Speaker 2: and you know he's going to lessen here.

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Speaker 18: All my experiences of Andy Costa, he's a very genuine person,

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Speaker 18: he's very sincere, and he has got real courage. I

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Speaker 18: absolutely believe what he said.

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Speaker 2: He believes right now that you've dispensed with this, and

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Speaker 2: I presume you're going on holiday. Where's this reorganization of

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Speaker 2: the public service got to while you've been handling all

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Speaker 2: this nonsense.

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Speaker 18: It's progressing. We still have a plan, which I've talked

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Speaker 18: about publicly. Ultimately it will be amount of a decision

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Speaker 18: by ministers. But I'm strongly of the view that we

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Speaker 18: have too many entities. We could do the same amount

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Speaker 18: of work with less entities. We could remove duplication, adop technology.

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Speaker 18: I believe it's a really strong story for those who

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Speaker 18: work in the public sect.

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Speaker 2: Good, good, good. When's it all going to happen?

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Speaker 18: I would like to start early next year if I could,

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Speaker 18: but this will take three to five years. It's not

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Speaker 18: an overnight thing. It doesn't need to be. But if

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Speaker 18: we don't move now, our options will become less and less.

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Speaker 18: I think that's to the detriment of the tax path.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you, Brian go Well.

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Speaker 2: Subrian writes Public Services Commission. A ten minutes past seven

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Speaker 2: past gig of related matters. New economic forecast to have

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Speaker 2: a look at comes from Business New Zealand. They're calling

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Speaker 2: a GDP number of just under three percent by the

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Speaker 2: end of twenty seven. They see momentum coming in manufacturing, construction, tourism.

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Speaker 2: They talk aboutset sales, which is interesting. John Paska is

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Speaker 2: the Business New Zealand Chief economist and is with us.

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Speaker 2: John morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Having had a good look at this report this morning.

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Speaker 2: Year in the retirement healthcare camp of people who say

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Speaker 2: this is all going to be unaffordable and we're going

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Speaker 2: to need to make some fairly serious decisions. Do you

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Speaker 2: reckon we're up for it?

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Speaker 19: Well, I think that it's the success The governments are

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Speaker 19: ready sort of kick this can down down the road.

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Speaker 19: But I think there's more and more public debate now

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Speaker 19: that not only from you know, Treasury, but even healthcare

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Speaker 19: organizations and age care that they realize that this is

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Speaker 19: going to have to be addressed and sooner rather than

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Speaker 19: later would be desirable.

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Speaker 2: And what about the government idea around debt? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad people are starting to talk about debt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the debt is just a problem. I mean

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Speaker 2: we're not even getting back to surplus until twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: twenty nine, and even then it's touch and go. Do

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Speaker 2: you think people get that bit?

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Speaker 19: Well, I think it's been We went through obviously difficult

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Speaker 19: years under COVID. But I think there was almost like

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Speaker 19: an impression that, you know, we had low levels of

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Speaker 19: debt and it wasn't a problem of the sort of

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Speaker 19: government borrowing up the eyeballs and you consider it eye

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Speaker 19: on the government to bail you out. And I you know,

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Speaker 19: once you start dealing with really really big numbers, people

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Speaker 19: know the price of the copper coffee, but when you

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Speaker 19: start talking about you know, fifty one hundred billion dollars,

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Speaker 19: there's their eyes glows over and they can't really get

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Speaker 19: in that space. So I think unless you actually sort

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Speaker 19: of try and simplify it and sort of say, look,

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Speaker 19: you know, your average household is basically in debt of

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Speaker 19: you know, a couple hundred thousand or whatever, then that

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Speaker 19: sort of gets a bit of reality into the process,

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Speaker 19: as it were.

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Speaker 2: Are you for rasset sales or the regeneration of income

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Speaker 2: from assets?

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Speaker 19: Well, I think you have to look at everything and

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Speaker 19: it's in its own merits. It's not a case of,

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Speaker 19: you know, just simply selling off the family silver. But

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Speaker 19: you've got to sort of really question, you know what,

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Speaker 19: why why do we have state owned farms, you know,

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Speaker 19: seting state owned electricity generation and so on so and

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Speaker 19: it's not only that, but it's actually getting more efficient

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Speaker 19: use of resources and also potentially opening up areas of

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Speaker 19: government monopolies to competition. So you know, private sector generally

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Speaker 19: has greater incentives than the public sector and are not

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Speaker 19: not prone to political motivations. So generally the private sector

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Speaker 19: does better overall and over time in terms of managing assets.

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Speaker 2: Regrowth. GDP is next year real, it's going to happen.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, no, no, it's I think if you're looking

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Speaker 19: at you know, there's a lot of indicators coming out,

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Speaker 19: both both official from stats but forward looking indicators that

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Speaker 19: show really across the board, things are hanging a lot

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Speaker 19: more positive. So you know, obviously it starts with business

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Speaker 19: confidence and consumer confidence. Business confidence is high. You know,

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Speaker 19: I've always taken some of these confidence surveys with a

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Speaker 19: grain of salt because people can you know, it depends

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Speaker 19: on the all blacks one or not, and that can

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Speaker 19: the termine whether they feel positive. But it's extrall the data.

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Speaker 19: What's actually happening at the end of the enterprise level.

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Speaker 19: That's the important stuff, and that's sextually improving.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear, John, well done. John Pasco is the Business,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Chief Economists fourteen past seven The.

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Speaker 1: Hike Asking Breakfast Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks a.

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Speaker 2: B News Talks. There'll be Hugh Jackman Kate Hudson after

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Speaker 2: eight this morning meantime seventeen past seven more on the economy.

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Speaker 2: Got a new deal for our ski industry into its

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Speaker 2: ski and sunk Bonski have signed. Who are sen Bonski?

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Speaker 2: While they're Chinese? Thirteen and a half million active skiers

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Speaker 2: in China. Paul Anderson is the New Zealand Ski CEO.

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Speaker 2: He's with us, Paul Morning, Good morning. Where's this come from?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you just go, I know, let's go

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Speaker 2: target some Chinese people or do the Chinese people ring you?

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Speaker 2: How's this work?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 4: Look, we've seen an increasing number of Chinese visitors on

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Speaker 4: our ski here is currently peak remarkables, particularly in Queenstown

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Speaker 4: over the last couple of years since COVID, and we've

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Speaker 4: kind of gone into that market supported by Touris of

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Speaker 4: New Zealand and managed to get this deal in place,

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Speaker 4: which gives us a good exposure to really fast growing market.

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Speaker 2: I would argue, if you'd asked me previously, all skiers

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Speaker 2: on New Zealand slopes are either New Zealanders or Australians.

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Speaker 2: Is that broadly correct?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, they're about ninety percent of our skiers are

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Speaker 4: New Zealand or Australians. New Zealanders still make up the bulk,

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Speaker 4: but that Australian market's important for us because they're high yielding.

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Speaker 4: They spend a lot, and we've seen that with the

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Speaker 4: Chinese as it is that are arriving. They're no longer

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Speaker 4: the traditional bus tours of groups that came through from China.

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Speaker 4: They're what we call fit free, independent travelers and they're

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Speaker 4: really high spending. Great for the retailers and restauranteurs downtown

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 2: Are they off season so you target Americans, Japanese and

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Speaker 2: Chinese off season or it doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 4: Ye know that they are. They're obviously if you're in

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Speaker 4: Beijing during the summer, it's a very hot place to be,

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Speaker 4: so you know, they welcome that opportunity to get to

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Speaker 4: a nice, crisp winter down south New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we target Americans in Japanese?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're coming as well. Look the Japanese, the Japanese

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Speaker 4: did drop off for a long time as their economy

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Speaker 4: wasn't so good. But we are seeing a few Japanese

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Speaker 4: coming back, and with that ear connectivity into North America,

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Speaker 4: we're seeing an increasing number of North Americans coming. We've

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Speaker 4: also got pass ski pass affiliations with icon and non

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Speaker 4: collective from to North America, so that's born an increasing

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Speaker 4: number of Americans as well.

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Speaker 2: Just real quick as the climate and increasing issue North

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Speaker 2: Island ski fields, it is down south? You still okay?

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Speaker 2: In other words, have I come from China? I know

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ski?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Look, we've made massive investments in snowmaking and Queenstown.

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Speaker 4: In fact, in this coming year we've just purchased what

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Speaker 4: they call a snow factory, which allows us to make

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Speaker 4: snow right from early May, so we can guarantee our

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Speaker 4: opening now at the end of May each year.

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Speaker 2: Awesome world, I'm Paul. Good news like it. Paul Anderson,

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Speaker 2: who's the New Zealand Ski CEO. This business of tourism

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Speaker 2: and events that God announced yesterday as part of the

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Speaker 2: seventy million. The seventy million didn't announced yesterday. Some of

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Speaker 2: the a tranch of the seventy million God announced yesterday

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Speaker 2: to bring events here will have a look at this

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Speaker 2: after seven thirty Men times seven twenty.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're not up on this, you need to

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Speaker 2: be street smart, hands on in car training for young drivers, right,

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Speaker 2: So basically teaching the roads unforgiving realities. It's stalled. But

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Speaker 2: Tony Quinn, as in the Tony Quinn Foundation, came along,

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Speaker 2: brought it back. They got on board. Now Starr Insure,

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Speaker 2: they're a great company. We love Star Insurre. They're supporting it.

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Speaker 2: They're not waiting. We've got racing legend Greg Murphy on board.

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Speaker 2: He's backing the program. So that's credibility. Sabaru. They recognize

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Speaker 2: the critical need for practical education. So Starinshur's commitment means

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Speaker 2: that basically, more young drivers get skills that keep them alive.

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Speaker 2: So you can forget the classrooms and the computer tests

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. This real world. This is real

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Speaker 2: world reactions. So if you're a business leader, this is

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Speaker 2: the message. If you're a business leader with a conscience,

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Speaker 2: give street smarter call, put your corporate muscle where it matters.

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Speaker 2: Or if you've got a young driver in your life,

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Speaker 2: book them onto a street smart course. It's not a luxury,

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Speaker 2: it's a necessity. So Starr Inshaw, the Tony Quinn Foundation,

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Speaker 2: Greg Murphy, Sabaru, they're making a difference. So it's about

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Speaker 2: time we backed what actually works. This is street smart.

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Speaker 2: Look it up and maybe get involved. Seven twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Now the Australian Social Media band has started, well sought of.

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Speaker 2: It came in on Monday, officially December one. It actually

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Speaker 2: starts D Day as they're calling it is December ten.

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Speaker 2: So the worrying thing is that one of the big

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Speaker 2: backers of the idea said she believed, she believed with

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Speaker 2: all her heart her words, we were saving a generation.

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Speaker 2: Now that simply, of course is not true. I mean

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Speaker 2: saving them from what themselves. Theory versus reality very powerfully

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Speaker 2: at play in this particular move. So we're dealing with

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Speaker 2: too many intangibles here. So between Monday and this time

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Speaker 2: next week when it begins, teens have been busy in

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Speaker 2: Australia finding new apps that aren't covered by the band.

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Speaker 2: Influencers are busy as we speak directing traffic to those

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Speaker 2: new outlets in order to work around the rules. Now

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Speaker 2: the government smart this has been busy this week announcing

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Speaker 2: a new series of apps that will be covered. So

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Speaker 2: we're in a sort of a whack a mole stage

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Speaker 2: at the moment now, as far as I can work out,

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure has been placed on the tech

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Speaker 2: companies to make sure kids don't lie. How literally that works,

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Speaker 2: I got no idea. I mean, like alcohol, you'll be

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Speaker 2: asked what age you are. Whether a tech company can

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Speaker 2: be held liable for dishonesty. I suppose, in some way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form will end up in court. Face recognition

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Speaker 2: user profiles can be used, I guess, but at some

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Speaker 2: point a market the size of Australia might well end

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Speaker 2: up being more trouble than it's worth. Far better to

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Speaker 2: battle as these tech companies do with places like the EU,

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Speaker 2: where privacy and trading laws are constantly under review and

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Speaker 2: fire to hand it out on an almost continual basis.

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Speaker 2: Never forgetting, of course, that these tech companies we're now

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Speaker 2: dealing with businesses worth more than many countries and governments. However,

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Speaker 2: flip side, this could of course be the trojan horse

872
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: Australia at the forefront of a major global movement that

873
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: is going to somehow shift the nature of technological interaction

874
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: of an entire generation. Studies may be launched if you

875
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Speaker 2: were banned, say pre sixteen, when you get to the

876
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: golden age of sixteen, you suddenly cause you can get

877
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: on there and go nuts. The repression never forget is

878
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: a problematic trait and a lot of social activity. So

879
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: we watch, I guess with interest. I don't think it

880
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: will lead to a lot. Personally. It was a has

881
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: a touch of virtue signaling about it all. But theory

882
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: in Australia is now reality. And I tell you this

883
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: for nothing a but a lot of parents wish them

884
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: well pasking. And then you come to YouTube, who yesterday

885
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: called it D day. They said Messenger, WhatsApps, see they're

886
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: not on the list. Discord Roadblocks is not on the list.

887
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: There's still a lot of detail, they were saying yesterday,

888
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: a lot of details surrounding the social media band that's

889
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: hard to pin down. They're disappointed. So they can't have playlists,

890
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: no subscriptions to fault well being tools all set aside.

891
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: But anyway, Rachel Lawd, who covers not just Australia for

892
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: YouTube but also New Zealand, Senior Manager of Public Policy.

893
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: As we've consistently said this rushed regulation misunderstands our platform

894
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: and the way young Australians use it. Most importantly, this

895
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: law will not fulfill its promise to make kids safer

896
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 2: online and will in fact make Australian kids less safe

897
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: on YouTube. Making it slightly complicated. Is Anaka Wells, who

898
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: I happen to watch yesterday. She was in front of

899
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: the press people giving a lunchtime address and Anaka had

900
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: just been busy spending one hundred thousand dollars of taxpayers

901
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: money flying to New York to sprook her social media policy,

902
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: and so the questions were mainly around Anaka, how come

903
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: you need to spend one hundred thousand dollars for a

904
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: three day trip to New York, which of course took

905
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: everyone's attention away from the main subjects concerned, right terrorism.

906
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: Some of the seventy million dollars to get events into

907
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 2: the country was released yesterday and we got Lincoln Park

908
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: and we got some dance fest out of Miami. Do

909
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: these things actually work? We'll crunch some numbers for you

910
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: after the news, which.

911
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Speaker 4: Is next.

912
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Speaker 1: Credible compelling. The Breakfast Show You can't bess it's the

913
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Speaker 1: mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

914
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three, News togs had been my

915
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: care here on.

916
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: The news that Andrew cost is very sincere and a

917
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: straight shooter. That's the case. He's cleanly, just and competent

918
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Speaker 2: and should never have been appointed.

919
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Speaker 20: Yet.

920
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Speaker 2: I didn't raise that with Brian Roach this morning, but

921
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Speaker 2: that that captain's call thing is probably one of the

922
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: learnings out of all of this, isn't it. Meantime, twenty

923
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: three minutes away from Itte, we're starting to see what

924
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Speaker 2: the seventy million dollar major events funding packaged buys. First

925
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: crunch has been an out. So we're going to get

926
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Speaker 2: Lincoln Park at Auckland six sixty and Symphony open at

927
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Speaker 2: the Christian Stadium. The Ultra Music Festival out of Miami

928
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Speaker 2: comes to Wellington now. Nick Hill is the chief executive

929
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Speaker 2: of Auckland Unlimited and as well. There's Nick morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Mike.

931
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Speaker 2: Convince me now because I'm sort of on the side

932
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Speaker 2: of getting more people here, and I understand the methodology

933
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Speaker 2: around it in the mathematics, but here's my thing. Because

934
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: they had David Higgins on earlier on this morning the promoter,

935
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Speaker 2: and he was trying to explain I looked at the

936
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Speaker 2: six sixty thing yesterday, right, So six sixty and symphony.

937
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: Now would you sell out christ Church Stadium if you

938
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Speaker 2: put that on? I think yes you would. And you

939
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: don't need the government. Why is the government so important?

940
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Speaker 14: Well, it depends quite often you do need public money.

941
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 14: I can't talk about the stadium in Christchurch and whether

942
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 14: that would set up without the government. There's certainly an

943
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 14: element of risk in it. So you know, someone like David,

944
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 14: who is a bit of a genius, has taken awful

945
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 14: lot of risk in his life, and the question is

946
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 14: if you want things to happen, you underwrite some of

947
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 14: that risk. And that's where public funding comes in.

948
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Speaker 2: So am I being too free market about this? I mean,

949
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: you know, so David takes a risk, give that's on him.

950
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Speaker 2: That's his business. And when when the risk pays off,

951
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: he makes a lot of money on them. That's business.

952
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 14: No, No, you can be free market. There's a problem

953
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 14: of free riders around promoting and bringing big things in

954
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 14: because there's a lot of benefits that flow to a

955
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 14: whole lot of people beyond those that will actually necessarily

956
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 14: pay so how do you how do you get enough

957
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 14: investment to get the kind of the level of the

958
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 14: event you want to have the impact that not everybody

959
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 14: will actually pay to get the benefit of it. It's

960
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 14: a tricky economic situation.

961
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: It's free riding, okay. So when I look at the

962
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: Ultra Music Festival in Wellington, I mean I mean would

963
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: that have come here anyway? Or we just simply don't know?

964
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 14: I like gain That's not what I know a lot about.

965
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 14: But I can talk in the context of Auckland and

966
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Speaker 14: part of what the are do with this, which I

967
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 14: think is the smart thing, is saying how can you

968
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 14: actually make existing events bigger and how would you use

969
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 14: additional funding to do that? So things like the Readers

970
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 14: and Writer's Festival in Auckland is a fantastic event, but

971
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 14: can you make it more international? And so the funding

972
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 14: that's coming in for that is to try and achieve that.

973
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 14: So how do you get Australians to come to Auckland

974
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 14: for that? That's our focus on something.

975
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Speaker 2: Could you present to me in a select committee or

976
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: at scrutiny week in Parliament numbers that without shadow of

977
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: it out go right? The government put an X million

978
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: and you as a result of that, got y million

979
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: in and you are materially better off minus the money

980
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: the government paid for.

981
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Speaker 14: I could, but you'd have to be patient, and you'd

982
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 14: have to prepare to get into some deep economics and

983
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 14: then always be gray areas. So for example, what is

984
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 14: it worth for the reputation of Auckland to be in

985
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 14: someone's mind as a place to visit? So sale GP

986
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 14: seems incredible images around the world which sale GP use

987
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 14: actually well beyond our event and that people look at

988
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 14: that and go awkward, that looks an amazing place. I'm

989
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 14: into sailing and yachting. That's worth That's worth something, but

990
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 14: very hard.

991
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: You can quantify it, you can.

992
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 14: And bounds, but you know, at the end of the

993
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 14: day people will be skeptical and say, well, it's leaved

994
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 14: to the market. But it wouldn't happen if you just

995
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 14: left it to the market.

996
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: How many events do you reckon then become events or

997
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: happen because and they're really not that good, but it

998
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 2: gets that whole community spirit vibe going because the government

999
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: are involved. In other words, you do stuff because you've

1000
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: got the money.

1001
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 14: There's always a risk of that, but that happens in

1002
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 14: the private sector as well, you're always taking risks around

1003
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 14: things where you can't always be sure, and with public

1004
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 14: money there's always going to be a degree of sloppiness

1005
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 14: and bureaucracy that creeps into it. I think it's a

1006
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 14: question of overall, how does your portfolio of things perform,

1007
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 14: and you know what's your overall benefit, And we're pretty

1008
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 14: rigorous in measuring that. Some people use really big numbers

1009
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 14: around events. We actually use very conservative numbers. We use

1010
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 14: a highly regarded film call Fresh Info, who use a

1011
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 14: very quantitative method, and we kind of assume some of

1012
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 14: the other benefits on top, but don't quantify them. So

1013
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 14: we try to be as rigorous as we can because

1014
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 14: we think at the end of the day, we've got

1015
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 14: to be credible and we've got to have integrity and

1016
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 14: be consistent. And yeah, I suppose that's as far as

1017
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 14: I can do.

1018
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: How much? How much are we doing this simply because

1019
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: everyone else does, because that's the standard line they use

1020
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: as well? Are you look at Australia Melbourne does this

1021
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: all the time as though that's a thing.

1022
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 14: Well, it's true.

1023
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: Well, I know it doesn't make it right.

1024
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 14: Well, I think if you were to go and look

1025
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 14: at Melbourne and what Jeff Kennett did sold all those

1026
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 14: assets and reinvested things like power stations and reinvested into

1027
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 14: facilities and transport and importantly major events. So major events

1028
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 14: are just we think of it as how you drive

1029
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 14: demand and shape demand and the kind of people you

1030
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 14: want are when you want them where you want them.

1031
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 14: So you know, if you are running a business, you

1032
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 14: do have a you do spend money on marketing to

1033
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 14: drive your top line results, and a lot of this

1034
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 14: is about doing that for cities. And Doc Wayne Brown

1035
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 14: is a real skipt because you'd know he's a fiscal

1036
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 14: conservative and he's been persuaded. His issue is how do

1037
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 14: you where does the funding come from? And he argues

1038
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 14: for a bad levy, which is a sound economic argument,

1039
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 14: which you know I'd completely support.

1040
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the weird thing about that. I don't understand

1041
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: why the government doesn't support it, given that I don't

1042
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: understand either. So on one hand they're handing out money, but

1043
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: on the other hand they're not bringing it in an

1044
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: area they could.

1045
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 9: Well.

1046
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 14: The other thing is the government. More than ninety percent

1047
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 14: of public money is raised by the government's bent out

1048
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 14: of Wellington, well we're interested in is mechanisms at all

1049
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 14: aid to raise money locally, to invest locally through an

1050
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 14: industry that helps to grow the industry, and that's what

1051
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 14: IVY would do.

1052
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 2: Interesting. Good on you and appreciate it very much, Nick Hill.

1053
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: That was better than I thought, Actually I was. He's excellent.

1054
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: They gave me a very good insight. Because I'm on

1055
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: the fence on this. I fully get that we need events.

1056
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: Events are great and that whole thing about You know,

1057
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: someone in the world looks at Auckland or Wellington or

1058
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: Queens Down and goes wow, I might go there fantastic,

1059
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: fully get it. But I also see just yet another

1060
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: government slash fund here, well, the whole sea, I mean,

1061
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: some of the events they're talking about, iron Man, New

1062
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: Zealand and Taupo. It's already on. It's it's been on

1063
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: for years. The fact that suddenly government money turns up

1064
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: does make any difference unless you argue nix line, which

1065
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: is you make it a better event or a bigger event,

1066
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: Golden she is. It's already on, it's been gone for decades.

1067
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: A Tigo rally in Dunedin as in the motor cars

1068
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: that's been on as well, you see what I'm saying. So,

1069
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just all these events that have already

1070
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: been on are suddenly on again, but with government money.

1071
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: So what have we gained out of that?

1072
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Speaker 1: Sixting too the Vike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1073
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Speaker 1: Power by the News.

1074
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Speaker 9: Talks, it'd be.

1075
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: Mike, so have the promoter, like David Higgins makes shed

1076
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: loads of money out of the event? Does he pay

1077
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 2: the government's investment?

1078
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 10: Now?

1079
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: Of course he doesn't. But it's and that's what makes

1080
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: the whole calculation so interesting. Mike, six sixty is the

1081
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: first concert to open our new stadium? Are you kidding?

1082
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: Is that the best we could do after everything we've

1083
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: been through? Second rate lame? Now, that's that's being unfair

1084
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: to six sixty and Synthhony. I'm told that Synthony is

1085
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: like seriously successful and popular and they're looking to take

1086
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Speaker 2: it global if they haven't already. The concept of sitting

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Speaker 2: and this is no disrespect to David Higgins, because I

1088
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: love David, but the concept of sitting in a park

1089
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: watching some people play some musical instruments to the sound

1090
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: of rock and roll is I'd rather shoot myself. But

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Speaker 2: lots of people like it and.

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Speaker 17: You can't hand it a bit disrespectful and did it?

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Speaker 9: No? Well, no, no, I like I mean no.

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Speaker 2: Because I like David because he has ideas that work.

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00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't argue this idea doesn't work. It's successful,

1096
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: it's popular. I mean the fact that I don't like it,

1097
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: who cares? But and six sixty is another one. I

1098
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 2: mean they keep saying that six sixty is this extraordinary

1099
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: global thing and when you look at the crowds, you

1100
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: can't argue with it. But you know, I you know,

1101
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: was what were you wanting? Taylor Swift or Bruce Springsteen?

1102
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 2: But here's the problem with christ Urcher. You look at

1103
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: the stadium. The problem with the Christchurch Stadium not that

1104
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: there's a huge it's small. It's not a big stadium.

1105
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: It's not sixty thousand and so the big of the event,

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00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: I mean, how many of those days? I mean, if

1107
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: you get somebody like Taylor Swift, she'd have to have

1108
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: twenty seven concerts to pay the bill to sell it

1109
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 2: out every night. And can I also suggest that there's

1110
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: such a fressant, a pent up frustration about the Christchurch Stadium?

1111
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: You could have had me there and I would have

1112
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: sold out, because you've got to have said, mystery guest.

1113
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: It would have sold out, wouldn't it. I mean, if

1114
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 2: you all you have to do is find thirty seven

1115
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: thousand people to pay you a few dollars to go

1116
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: and sell something out, they would have gone.

1117
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 17: They should have put an I care store next to it.

1118
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: They should have put I was, why did you do that?

1119
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 17: You were so nearly at boiling point. I thought I'd

1120
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Speaker 17: just see if I could get that kittle blowing.

1121
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Speaker 2: I was going to spend the morning ignoring that, because

1122
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: all the rest of the lap dogs in the media,

1123
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: we're going to see and see what you've done.

1124
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 17: Now you need medical assistance.

1125
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: Nah, not you horse of the Year got canceled. It's

1126
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: like somebody yesterday, they said. Honestly, somebody said to me,

1127
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: it's like some are getting McDonald's, isn't it isn't. It's

1128
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: just that's how pathetic we become as a nation that

1129
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: when a shop like Ikea opens. I've got nothing against Ikea,

1130
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: and you do realize you've been able to buy Ikea

1131
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: in this country for years. It's so what they're offering

1132
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: today is no different from yesterday. It's been readily available.

1133
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen to be in an Ikea shop.

1134
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: But if you look at the media today, it's like

1135
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: it's like they've discovered time or gravity, or food or water,

1136
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: or it's just it's too pathetic. For Glenn, it's tend

1137
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: to waate.

1138
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender and use togs

1139
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: Head be.

1140
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: Horse of the Year. Might got canceled because of the funds.

1141
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure they could have used the government money. Yeah,

1142
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: but see that's part of my argument. And do remember

1143
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: I do reiterate I'm not actually against this. I think

1144
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: I'd probably fall in favor of doing it, of supporting

1145
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 2: events and growing events. I'm just asking the question around

1146
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: rigor of expenditure. But you got to ask, if an

1147
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 2: event can't last without government money, is the event worth having?

1148
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: And then you get into the whole discussion around the arts.

1149
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: And if you look at half the stuff that's made

1150
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: arts festivals and books and magazines and television programs these days, podcasts,

1151
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: half the stuff that you hear about is funded by

1152
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: the government. So you ask yourself the question, if push

1153
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: came to shove, would the product being made at the

1154
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: moment actually be listened to or watched or read by

1155
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: enough people to make it commercially viable. And the answers no.

1156
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: So therefore you come to the question, Well, is that

1157
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: the government's job to basically employ people who would be

1158
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: otherwise un deployable in a pursuit that they may find fascinating,

1159
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: and yet the rest of the world doesn't.

1160
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 17: Well, people in charge have always been funded the arts.

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00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying asthing different. I'm

1162
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: just asking the question as to whether or not that's acceptable.

1163
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: So if you want to support an event, do you

1164
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: support an orchestra, do you support a ban, do you

1165
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: support a comp whatever the case may be. Mike Sobrian

1166
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: is a breath of fresh air. He speaks clearly and

1167
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: sensibly about fairly complicated employment topics. I hope he gets

1168
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 2: to see through the the optimization of the public service.

1169
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see how that works.

1170
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: And I hope he goes and balls and all and

1171
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: sort of cleans the place out because they miss the

1172
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: opportunity with the public service. And this is not to

1173
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: be mean to the public service, and people have lost

1174
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: their jobs, so that's always difficult. But the problem is

1175
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: when a government comes along, as in the last one

1176
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: and balloons the public service, inevitably that party's going to

1177
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: come to an end, and when it does, it's ugly.

1178
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: So you might want to ask yourself when taking, you know,

1179
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: taking on a new job, whether or not that this

1180
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: is sustainable for the long term. Mike, thanks for an

1181
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: enjoyable year of listening. I hope you have a delightful break.

1182
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: John Macbeth, isn't that lovely? John Macbeth? You know the name,

1183
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: do you know? I claim it's funny. I was thinking

1184
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 2: about John the other day. I claim to have invented

1185
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: John macbeth and Keith Quinn and this is going to

1186
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: be in my book. So when I was at Morning

1187
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: Report years ago at Radio New Zealand, there was a

1188
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: test coming up on the Saturday, and I said to

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00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: them producers, of which they're about three hundred, I said

1190
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: to them through a loud speaker, because this rumor so large,

1191
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: there were so many.

1192
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 17: Of them, I've assembled you all today exactly, and there's

1193
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 17: airport hangar exactly.

1194
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: I said to them, I said, let's do something about

1195
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: the rugby tomorrow. On the Friday morning, Friday edition of

1196
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: Morning Report and they went what for. I said, you know, well,

1197
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the sport and they said why. I said,

1198
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: because it's quite a big deal in New Zealand. The

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Speaker 2: all black people are interested. And they looked at me

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00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: and they said are they I said yes they are.

1201
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: And they said, who would you recommend that we get?

1202
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: And I said, get some well known people in sport,

1203
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: get some people who know about rugby. Let's get a

1204
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: couple of them on. We'll have a chit chat about

1205
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: some rugby. And they said, well, who would you recommend

1206
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: because we don't know any sportspeople and I said, well,

1207
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: of course you don't. And I said, what about that

1208
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: John McBeth guy, he's funny, and we'll getters makee Keith

1209
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: quinn on And so Quinna macbeth turned up on Morning

1210
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: Report as a combo and they were fantastic talent and

1211
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: everybody it was like the lights went on. It's like

1212
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 2: in Aqia came to town and they went, oh my god,

1213
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: that was moderately entertaining. Do you think we could do

1214
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: that again? I said, I'll tell you what we'll do.

1215
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: We'll do it ahead of the next test, shall we?

1216
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: And there's three of them, so we can do it

1217
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: three times. And it was like a revolutionized Morning Report

1218
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: that John macbeth and Keith Quinn. Now, John might be

1219
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: listening to that story and going, what a pile of crap.

1220
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: But that's the way I remember it, and that's the

1221
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: way it's going to be in the book unless the

1222
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: lawyers get on to me between now and then News

1223
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Speaker 2: for You in a couple of moments, then a couple

1224
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Speaker 2: of movie stars for.

1225
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Speaker 1: You asking the questions others won't the mic asking, Breakfast

1226
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Speaker 1: with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, Togs, dead Be,

1227
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: There was.

1228
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Speaker 2: Radio sitting last night. There's Hugh Jackman, Kate Hudson new

1229
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: movie for Neil Diamon fans. Obviously. They star as Mike

1230
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: and Claire Sedina who are Lightning and Thunder, a group

1231
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: Lightning and Thunder. It's a duo Neil Diamond tribute act.

1232
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: Get some attention in Milwaukee now. The movie itself is

1233
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: based on the documentary of the couple. It was called

1234
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: Song Sung Glue that came out in two thousand and eight.

1235
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: It's a story of hope amidst a tragic love story

1236
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: generating Oscar BUZ and d four Hudson herself and her role. Anyway,

1237
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman, Kate Hudson are with us. Good morning, good

1238
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: morning morning.

1239
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 8: Mate.

1240
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: Now correct me if I'm wrong, Kate. You two didn't

1241
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: know each other before this project.

1242
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 20: Not really. We had met a couple of times, but

1243
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 20: we had we didn't really know each other now.

1244
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: So having said that, what's the creative risk you reckon

1245
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: of putting two people together in these roles that you

1246
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: two have if you don't know each other reading.

1247
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 20: Will I will let you answer this because I said

1248
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 20: it to Hugh.

1249
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1250
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 13: On day one, Kate said to me, you know, if

1251
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 13: we don't work, this movie doesn't work.

1252
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: And she was right.

1253
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 13: But I had a lot of confidence because it was

1254
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 13: it was Michelle, my friend, who said, are you watching

1255
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 13: CBS Sunday And I said, Kate Hudson has done an

1256
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 13: album and there's a great story about her and she

1257
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 13: should play Claire.

1258
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 11: And I turned on.

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01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 13: It was like as soon as she said, I was

1260
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 13: like yeah. And then I turned it on and I

1261
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 13: watched it. I'm like I could just see it and

1262
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 13: I'd met, we'd actually met, We've done like a reading

1263
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 13: of something, so we'd met a little bit along the way,

1264
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 13: but I had a sense. So I had a strong

1265
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 13: sense that it was going to be great, but I

1266
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 13: didn't know it was going to be this great or

1267
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 13: this easy, Mike, if I'm honest.

1268
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: So Kate, when it clicked for you, I mean basically,

1269
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: how did you know? Was it instant?

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01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 20: I mean yes, But I have to say I mean,

1271
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 20: I don't mean to I don't want this to sound reductive,

1272
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 20: because it wasn't. But when we kissed, I have to

1273
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 20: say we it was It's like we've we've been kissing

1274
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 20: each other for years. It was the easiest kiss and

1275
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 20: kissing the whole it was like it was like he

1276
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 20: was my husband. But I think part of that started

1277
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 20: when we, you know, started to get to know each other.

1278
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 20: My thing with him, which was really important to me.

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01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 20: It's like, you know, we have to I also wanted Hugh.

1280
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 20: I didn't know Hugh, so I was like, I'm very

1281
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 20: tactile and I want to get to know you and

1282
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 20: if I ever weared you out, you know, just let

1283
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 20: me know. Found out very that we're very similar, connective

1284
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 20: people and very open. We found each other really really

1285
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 20: like transitional time in our lives. Spiritually, and I think

1286
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 20: it just opened us up to each other. And it

1287
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 20: was like, I know this sounds silly a little bit,

1288
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 20: but it's like the universe just sort of put us

1289
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 20: exactly where we were supposed to be, and we felt

1290
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 20: that immediately.

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 13: We said, although I might just remind you of that,

1292
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 13: we were doing a scene and start to snow. It

1293
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 13: was freezing and it wasn't snowing on the white shot

1294
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 13: or on my close up, and then it start to snow,

1295
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 13: so we went, we filmed it so beautiful, and we

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01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 13: went back and shot my side. So we're out in

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Speaker 13: the cold quite a long time, and you know when

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Speaker 13: you get cold and your nose starts to run. So

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Speaker 13: I just remember after one of the kisses, this was

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Speaker 13: Kate's face, all right, was my nose running and go.

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Speaker 13: And we had three more takes.

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Speaker 20: You like, you'll never look at me to say them again,

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Speaker 20: and I went, you're.

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Speaker 13: Right when you're going here for a kiss and it's

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Speaker 13: on camera, but the woman's doing this doesn't do a

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Speaker 13: lot of your confidence, mikeh.

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Speaker 2: Somebody I read a review suggested this could well be

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Speaker 2: your most ambitious role. Yet do you see it that way?

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Speaker 13: In many ways, I do I think it combines a

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Speaker 13: lot of different things that I do, but in many

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Speaker 13: ways it was asking things of me that I hadn't

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Speaker 13: done before, and so it was suited to me. I

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Speaker 13: don't know about UK, if you feel the same. I always

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Speaker 13: want to feel a little bit of I don't know

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Speaker 13: if I can pull this off. Like it's not like

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Speaker 13: I want something like I go, ah, I know exactly

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Speaker 13: how to do this. I want to dive into unknown

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Speaker 13: waters a little bit. And I think what's different about

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Speaker 13: me now is I'm more comfortable with not knowing how

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Speaker 13: it's going to turn out each scene, each day with

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Speaker 13: the movie and going on with that ride. And then

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Speaker 13: that's for me. Back to your question, when did I know?

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Speaker 13: It was when I could communicate being vulnerable, I'm not

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Speaker 13: sure if I don't know how to do this, and

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Speaker 13: I could say it with my acting partner, with my

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Speaker 13: on you know, it was my colleague, and I could

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Speaker 13: just say the thing that I would normally have kept

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Speaker 13: to myself.

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Speaker 2: And ambitious for you two, Kate, oh, always.

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Speaker 20: I mean it's like it's like saying It's like saying

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Speaker 20: to a ballplayer, like do you want to play in

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Speaker 20: the major leagues or not? You know, know, you dedicate

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Speaker 20: your whole life to something, what are the things and

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Speaker 20: who do you want to be playing with? And what

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Speaker 20: are the things you you know, it's like, no, I want,

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Speaker 20: I want the nineties, I want the ninety six mile power,

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Speaker 20: you know, fastball. It's scary, but I want, I want,

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Speaker 20: I want in it. And uh and I think that's

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Speaker 20: what always it gets exciting about these things. And for me,

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Speaker 20: I those opportunities don't come often, and and and and

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Speaker 20: and to be honest, they don't make movies like this

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Speaker 20: very often. So I'm so grateful and and and work.

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Speaker 20: I love hard work, and I like work that gives

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Speaker 20: me a little of the you know, the uh, the

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Speaker 20: the you know, the butterflies, and and and then my

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Speaker 20: and then you know, and and then also it's like

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Speaker 20: then when you're in it and you're you're sort of

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Speaker 20: you know, leaning in, you're just the commitment to it

1349
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 20: and sort of like having to let go and being

1350
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Speaker 20: uninhibited is a very liberating feeling. And so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 20: definitely enjoy the ambition and the fears and you know,

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Speaker 20: the butterflies and all that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, hold on the Kate Hudson, Hugh Jackman more

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Speaker 2: in a Moment thirteen Past the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks sixteen Past as Hugh Jackman Kate

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Speaker 2: Hudson with the song sung Blue as the movie Hugh,

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Speaker 2: the line about the movies before the break was interesting.

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Speaker 2: So so I look at you, mister Wolverine, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I think to myself, that's modern movie making, isn't

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Speaker 2: it that sort of big picture, big budget whatever. But

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Speaker 2: what you've done here, I guess, is almost like movies

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Speaker 2: of the olden days.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, it does feel like that. And both

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Speaker 13: Kate and I have been a screening with some people

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Speaker 13: I don't name them without their permission, but people big

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Speaker 13: wigs in our business, and they're like, these were the movie,

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Speaker 13: this is the movies we need, These are the movies

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Speaker 13: we used to make all the time. This is this

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Speaker 13: And it does have that feeling, and it's funny. There

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Speaker 13: is a line in the movie about nostalgia. There is

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 13: something nostalgic about it. It's an everyday couple, it's about

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Speaker 13: some battler's you know, and seems like an ordinary story,

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Speaker 13: but it's actually so extraordinary within that, and I have

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Speaker 13: to tell you, like everybody turned the movie down thirteen

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Speaker 13: thirteen knows straight off, no way, Yeah, thirteen out of thirteen. Actually,

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Speaker 13: our producer, John Davis has done one hundred and seventeen movies.

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Speaker 13: This is his number one one seven And he called

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Speaker 13: in a favor. He just rang Peter Cramer from Universe

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 13: and said, you need to do me. Foguz, what is it, Johnny,

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Speaker 13: guess you're going to make this movie? And he goes,

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Speaker 13: haven't read it, guess just say yes, and he goes, okay,

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Speaker 13: And that's how.

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Speaker 9: The movie made.

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Speaker 2: Unreal Kate, Kate, does it fit to seduce? I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you look at so this the movie is the

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Speaker 2: movie of the documentary. The documentary is of real life.

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Speaker 2: If you had just simply written the plot with the

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Speaker 2: details on a piece of paper, there's no way you

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Speaker 2: could have gone to pass the studios there.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, you can't write it, Like what are you doing?

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Speaker 20: Let's said, this can't be real, Like you know you

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Speaker 20: gotta let's let's let's edit. Yeah, and and then and

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Speaker 20: and boy is it real every every step of the way.

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Speaker 20: I mean, what a wild, fascinating, crazy life. Mike and

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Speaker 20: Claire lived and even the whole the line. You know,

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Speaker 20: lightning can strike twice, you know, it's that the fact

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Speaker 20: that they lived through all of that is just pretty

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Speaker 20: remarkable and makes for a great story.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 20: And and I think that Craig honored that them so

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Speaker 20: wonderfully by by walking such a great line of never

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Speaker 20: getting too far down that you can't get out. And

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Speaker 20: there's just he walks this sort of like line of

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Speaker 20: inspiration throughout the whole movie. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 20: the one, the one thing. And I know he's watching,

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Speaker 20: but like if Mike could see this movie, I mean

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Speaker 20: it would just I feel like I can see his

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Speaker 20: face watching.

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Speaker 17: Its not any bad.

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Speaker 13: I have a weed feeling. This is my feeling that

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Speaker 13: Mike the reason the movie is happening. He's Mike. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: like that determination, Like they never say no. I don't

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Speaker 13: care if they any studios have turned it down. This

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Speaker 13: movie's happening, and it's happened. It's sort of his.

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Speaker 20: Dedication, his dedication to his music, his art, to Neil,

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Speaker 20: to Claire, to the kids, taking taking on those kids.

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Speaker 20: You know, it's like he's so he he was so dedicated.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, that's the I agree with you It's like

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Speaker 20: this idea that he is the reason why there's movie

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Speaker 20: happened would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 13: I just remember, I just remembered, Mike. I haven't shown

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Speaker 13: anyone this, but Claire Claire said. Claire gave me this

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Speaker 13: on the last dating and that's my actual hat from

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Speaker 13: when he went to see Neil Diamond.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible. Well, I'll tell you what. From what I'm reading,

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Speaker 2: we've got some Oscar buzz about this as well. So

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Speaker 2: so thank you too for joining us. Good to catch

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Speaker 2: up and good luck with it all. Thanks mine, mate,

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Speaker 2: Kate Hudson, Hugh Jackman. That was as you probably heard

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Speaker 2: on zoom. So we'll whack that up on the old

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Speaker 2: Where do we wak that up on the ZIBBI, on

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Speaker 2: the on the Facebook, on the website, on the social

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Speaker 2: media stuff that's out there, that'll be bad if you're

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Speaker 2: under sixteen, don't watch it. Oh that's Australia eight twenty one.

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Speaker 2: triple nine three h nine asking this is good, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Your interviews are always informative and good, but I think

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Speaker 2: the Hudson Jackman won is the best ever. Thank you

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: very much, Lindsey closely followed by slowly losing the will

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Speaker 2: to live during this interview. Mat It's probably with a

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Speaker 2: large audience. Someone loves it, someone hates it.

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Speaker 13: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I was privileged to see Song Sung Blue yesterday as

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Speaker 2: part of a special screening. It's a stunning film. It's

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Speaker 2: like going to a Neil Diamond concert with Twist and Sam.

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Speaker 2: You're in C tune. So you saw it, Kerry here,

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Speaker 2: there's nine to noon. Kerry, she saw it yesterday. She cried.

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Speaker 2: She said she.

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Speaker 17: Seems to emotionally worked out today.

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Speaker 2: I think she's emotionally generally said. She made the mistake

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Speaker 2: of saying I cried, but everyone cried. I don't think

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Speaker 2: everyone cried. I think she's the only crist She's just

1479
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Speaker 2: to cry.

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Speaker 17: It is hard to see with tears in your eyes.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with being a crier. I'm just saying that. Yeah, Mike,

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Speaker 2: high again, very cool story. It's just before eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: My version is that Quinn McBeth first joined you on

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Speaker 2: TV and said Breakfast correct On was not correct, John,

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid you can read it all about it in

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Speaker 2: my book. It's over. That's libelous. You can't put stuff

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Speaker 2: in a book, John, it's not true. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to put it in my book in different stories books.

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Speaker 17: If it's in the fiction section rather than the nonfiction section.

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Speaker 17: Are you allowed to do it?

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Speaker 11: Then?

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Speaker 2: I reckon? I reckon. My book's going to be fiction,

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Speaker 2: and you're just going it's like the show. A lot

1494
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Speaker 2: of this stuff's made up. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: realize it, but a lot of the stuff on the

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Speaker 2: show's made up. And the trick for you is to

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Speaker 2: work out how much of what I've just seen is

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Speaker 2: real and how much of it's not real?

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Speaker 17: Is it inspired by true events? Perhaps exactly?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is there a little bit of poetic license? And pretty

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Speaker 2: much everything I do. I started with the time when

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Speaker 2: I started telling the time wrong and you were going,

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Speaker 2: hold on, is that right? Time? You just never know.

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Speaker 2: The OBR thing in Britain continues this to the fallout

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Speaker 2: from the budget, the Office of Budget Responsibility, the fall guy,

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Speaker 2: in other words, for Rachel Reeves, who needed to escape

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Speaker 2: goat as quickly as she possibly could, so he fell

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: on his swords and the latest is Faragees told as

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 2: people that a well he's calling it a reverse takeover,

1511
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: but he's saying a deal is going to be done

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: before the next election between Reform and the Tories, which

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01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 2: would make them quite the force I would imagine, So

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Speaker 2: Rod little out of Britain next.

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Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender

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01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: embraced the impossible news talks that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Do you forgive me because I'm just literally reading this

1518
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Speaker 2: on the fly, It's just been handed to me. It's

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: a Fonterra update for Q one to total group profit

1520
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: after text two to seventy eight million, which is up

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Speaker 2: fifteen million. Continuing operations profit after text one fifty eight million,

1522
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: which is down ten. Forecast earnings for continued operation forty

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: five to sixty five. That's the dividend that the shareholders slash.

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: Farmers get milk price nine to ten now midpoint of

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01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: nine fifty, and you've got to wonder how long that's

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01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: going to hold for unless those those dairy auctions turn around.

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: Our total group profit after tacks up fifteen million dollars

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: is the equivalent to seventeen cents per share continuing operations

1529
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: delivering a profit. We maintain our full year earnings range.

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01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: Farmer shaholders voted to approve the divestment of the Yeah,

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01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 2: that's the leactalist thing, et cetera, et cetera. So that's

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: those are the numbers as they present themselves. I just

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: wonder the big question for us all. I suppose farmers specifically,

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01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: bit us all generally has dairy come off the boil

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: a bit in coming off the boil? How long does

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01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,879
Speaker 2: it stay off the boil? Is it going to reboil?

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 2: Or are we enforce some slightly less frothy times? Twenty

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: two minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

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01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,839
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business Britain.

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Speaker 2: Now, very good preend right, little morning mate, A good

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Speaker 2: ball mate.

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Speaker 11: How are you doing?

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01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: We played done well. We played a little clip out

1545
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 2: of I assume it was PMQ's or it was a

1546
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: bit of back and forward in the house early on,

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01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: and I thought this fallout from the budget, just when

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: do you reckon it stops? Because kimmy bednot sounds like

1549
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: she's having the time of her life.

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Speaker 11: She is, and she's come into her own. I had

1551
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 11: a quick chat with her over the weekend and she

1552
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 11: was far more bulliant, far more on the front foot

1553
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 11: than I've heard her for a very very long time.

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,799
Speaker 11: And she clearly did very well in Prime Minister's questions

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 11: last week where she ridiculed the Chancellor for climbing into

1556
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 11: a hole who designed by misogyny. And the answer to

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01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 11: your first question is, I don't think it does stop,

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01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 11: because that continues to be problems about what was leaked,

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01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 11: when was it leaked, and who leaked it and to

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01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 11: whose benefit was it leaked? About the budget, but then

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01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 11: after that you get all the questions about what this

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01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 11: budget is going to do. So I don't think this

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01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 11: is going to go away anytime soon at all. And

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01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 11: I still think that Reeves is in some danger. That

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 11: Rachel Reeves is in some danger from both the investigations,

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01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 11: one of which she's ordered, but also you know, just

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01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 11: the probing from newspapers and from the opposition parties. I

1568
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 11: think there is still some danger there for her.

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: The bloke who fell on his sword from the OBR,

1570
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: how much of that's incompetence. How much of that's fall guy?

1571
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 11: I think probably the OBR made a mistake, and I

1572
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 11: think he felt it was needed for him to resign.

1573
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 11: But now you know, the guns are being turned. So

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 11: the guns were first turned from the Chance of onto

1575
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 11: the Office for Budget Responsibility, with whom she's meant to

1576
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 11: have a kind of cordial relationship, you know, And now

1577
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 11: it's being turned on her own peace people within the

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 11: Treasury who may have leaked something else. And there are

1579
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 11: so few people left to whom Rachel Reeves can complain

1580
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 11: that debt blame for whatever problems arose as a consequence

1581
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 11: of the budget.

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01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: Rod, just hold on for people who missed it. This

1583
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 2: was bed Knock earlier.

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01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 7: Let me read to him what his own cabinet members

1585
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 7: are saying, and I quote the handling of this budget

1586
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 7: has been a disaster from starts to finish.

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01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 20: That was it him?

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01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 7: Was it her?

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01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: In fact?

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01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 7: I think it was probably her.

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01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: Actually, See that's a woman with confidence, isn't it?

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01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 11: It is it is And for the first time for

1593
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 11: a long time, you know, it's been the last two

1594
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 11: weeks at basing Knock's really got her house in order

1595
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 11: and is really going for the jocular, and it's on

1596
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 11: a subject which she knows a bit about. She's she's

1597
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 11: quite competent financially.

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01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 9: But also.

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Speaker 11: You know that the criticisms are coming from the labor left,

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 11: coming from the labor center, they're coming from within the

1601
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 11: government's own kind of Starmerrist appointments himself. It isn't going

1602
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 11: to stop. And the crucial thing is that, of course,

1603
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 11: as we know, and we talked about last week, but

1604
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 11: it did nothing whatsoever to increase the possibility that our

1605
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 11: economy might grow a bit. So as that flat lines,

1606
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 11: you know, the questions become head of more urgent. I

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 11: think I think she's still in an awful run.

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01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: Of trouble, right, So tell me read the Tories and

1609
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 2: bad Knock. Does bid Knock survive with a merger with reform?

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01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: Is there a merger with reform? Where does Faraji end up?

1611
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: And given reforms current polling, are they the bigger player

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 2: and the merger?

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01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 11: Well, it's interesting, isn't it. In a sense, they are

1614
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 11: the bigger player because they have twenty nine percent in

1615
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 11: the polls as the latest poll out today, and easily

1616
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 11: the highest party. But of course the Conservatives are the

1617
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 11: members of Parliament and the background and the history. I

1618
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 11: think that as time goes on, we're beginning to hear

1619
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 11: more and more now about an alliance between the Conservative

1620
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 11: Party and Reform. As Conservatives, the Conservative Party fails to

1621
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 11: re establish itself as the main voice of opposition, but

1622
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 11: can be Badeno does a pretty good job of attacking

1623
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 11: the opposition, attacking the government. Then it all makes it

1624
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 11: slightly more likely that there would be some sort of

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01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 11: alliance between them and Reform. And an alliance between them

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 11: and Reform would win an election easily, very very easily. Indeed,

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01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 11: they would get all the votes in the southeast, which

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01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 11: would normally go to the Tories, and all the Northern

1629
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 11: rule seats which would go to Reform. The question hitherto

1630
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 11: has always been would Reform go for it? But Reform

1631
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 11: cannot get above thirty or percent in the polls. It

1632
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 11: just cannot break that barrier. It did so once and

1633
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 11: then dropped back down to third. Given that, and then

1634
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 11: it needs about thirty three thirty four percent to win

1635
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 11: an election, then some sort of pact, either unofficial or official,

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01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 11: looks likely.

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01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: I take it they would, because you've got to first

1638
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: pass the post system. They would arrange your seat. So

1639
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: in other words, you wouldn't have two people going banging

1640
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: heads splitting the vote. That's right, And so the next

1641
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: question is does that happen now? Does it happen often?

1642
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: And if you did it on a bulk deal, would

1643
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: people be alarmed?

1644
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 11: Yeah? I don't thin if people will be alarmed. It

1645
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 11: does happen now. It doesn't happen that often, largely because

1646
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 11: people can't get get their arrangements in place in time

1647
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 11: when there's a by election. But it has happened, sure.

1648
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 11: You know, the party I'm a member of the Social

1649
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 11: Democratic Party had an alliance with Reform at the last

1650
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 11: election and they didn't contest the since we were standing

1651
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 11: in which we thought were important and vice versa. It

1652
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 11: can't be done. Of course, it's much more higher stakes

1653
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 11: when we're talking about the tourism reform now, and it

1654
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 11: remains to be seeing what kind of stink will be

1655
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 11: kicked up by those conservative candidates who are suddenly told now,

1656
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 11: we're really not going to put anything into this fight.

1657
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 11: You know, we'd rather you actually stood down because that

1658
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 11: will be difficult. But nonetheless, the attractions are there because

1659
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 11: it is the past to number ten.

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01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, my friend, go well Rod little out

1661
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Speaker 2: seven six six two tasking a lot of things out

1688
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: of Britain. Just before we leave it. One hundred million

1689
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: pounds for the COVID inquiry thus far. This is on

1690
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 2: top of the one ninety two. So let's call out

1691
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: three hundred million pounds, fifty percent more than previously thought

1692
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: and it's still far from over. This is legal advice.

1693
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 2: Staffing costs has a bit a bit of a to

1694
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: do with the government. The claim is that at times

1695
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: there are being hostile and difficult and blocking the release

1696
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: of information, delivering documents late. It's been going now for

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01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: three years, got underway in twenty twenty two. Final report

1698
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 2: isn't expected till twenty twenty seven, so at least if

1699
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: you compare it to ours, our second part is due

1700
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: in early next year twenty six, so a year ahead

1701
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: of it. Took. In total, there were ten separate investigations

1702
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: so far only two, which is one that's looked at

1703
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: the pandemic preparedness and the other one looking at government

1704
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 2: decision making, have been completed two of ten and we're

1705
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: already running at three hundred million pounds. The other thing

1706
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: of notes in Britain at the moment is the police

1707
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: are considering corporate manslaughter over this post office scandal. So

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01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 2: this is the National Police Chiefs Council investigation currently focused

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01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: on eight suspects, five interviews conducted under caution. There are

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01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 2: in our fifty three persons of interest, most of whom

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01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: are likely to be raised to suspects status at a

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01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 2: later stage, and the investigation continued to focus on offenses

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01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 2: of perjury in perverting the course of justice, also considering

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01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: charges of corporate manslaughter. So there's got a lot of

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01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: water to go under that particular bridge. Ten away from nine.

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Speaker 2: it's that time of the year to earn well. They've

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01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: got a whole lot of New World dollars, and they've

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: got those dollars just from weekly shopping. According to New World,

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01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: there are heaps of New World dollars out there at

1724
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 2: the moment, just waiting to be spent this Christmas. Now

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01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: you can use them to treat yourself as something extra

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01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: you can save on your next shop at New World.

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01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: And if you don't know what your New World dollar

1728
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 2: balance is worth checking out, obviously a very nice surprise

1729
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: waiting for you. One New World dollar, by the way,

1730
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: is equal to one New Zealand dollar when you spend

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01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: in the store or online, so you can check your

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: balance by asking the helpful New World team at the checkout,

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01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: or by downloading the New World app. Christmas perfect time

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01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: spend those New World dollars after all. And how do

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01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: you earn the New World dollars will super simple. You

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01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 2: win them by using your club card when you shop

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01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: in store or online or even through the app. And

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01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: it's all with you will Hosking Mike's IV fifteen year

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01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: old New Zealander goes it was allowed on Facebook in

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01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: this country of course, goes on holiday to Australia? Are

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01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: they allowed on Facebook? They joined Facebook legal. I'm assuming

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 2: so I see these are the I mean that's a

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01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 2: that's a you know, you're pulling a fairly long bow

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: on that one. But it's one of the many, many,

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01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: many technical ish type questions that the Australian government have

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01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: failed to answer. Sex Away from.

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01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with Warehouse the Real House of Fregrancs.

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01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 2: Google searchers for New Zealand? What did we search up

1749
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 2: on Google this year? Top searchers overall? Iran was number nine?

1750
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: Does that surprising surprises me? All Blacks v France was

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01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: number six. CEO on the jumbo tron That means nothing

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01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: to me.

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01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 11: Yes, come on.

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01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 17: The ceo who kissed the.

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01:25:54,720 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 2: Resource told play sorry, you're right. Osteoporosis pre what's that about?

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01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: That is the third most searched search in Google this year.

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01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: Osteoporosis pregnant. Charlie Kirk number one. As far as key

1758
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: is concerned, who were we looking for this year? Liam Lawson?

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01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me. He was fourth. Joseph Parker was

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01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: number one. I think that probably happened reasonably lately. Stuart

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01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 2: Nash was number ten for odd Stewie Lord.

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01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 17: I think that was just mostly Stuart googling himself.

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01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: Could have been people we looked up, most the Pope honestly,

1764
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: what for?

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01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 17: Oh he was new?

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01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 13: Oh?

1767
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 2: I suppose Sir Luke Colmes, Jimmy Kemmel when he got sacked,

1768
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 2: presumably Prince Andrew when he ran into his problems. Knows.

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01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: Poor old Fergie has been booted out of the house

1770
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: and she don't nowhere to go. Andrew's going down the road,

1771
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: but she's out. She didn't know what the top six

1772
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: things we Treaty Principles bill submission was number six. But angsty,

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01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: isn't it? Cyclone tam thunderstorm warning, tsunami warning, rainfall warning,

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01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 2: wind warning.

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Speaker 17: So that's why we do weird to pullcasts on this show.

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 2: Come on, Yew Zealand, let's make twenty six something better.

1777
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 2: Number one in the need help department, make butter.

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01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 17: That's all your tad wives out there what.

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01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 2: It is, although you don't need to anymore. What a

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01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 2: waste of a request that was? Ah, have you seen

1781
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 2: the price of butter? So cheap? Right now? What went viral?

1782
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 2: We'll do by chocolate. Sam started that as he started

1783
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 2: driving out to Tacaninni and his GDR to deal with

1784
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 2: Janice and Takanini over the do buy chocolate? Everyone went, oh,

1785
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: hang on, what's Sam and to has he got some doing?

1786
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: What's going on out there? In Tacanini Barbie AI trend

1787
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: and start a pac trend which is similar to the

1788
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 2: Barbie doll with accessories start up. I don't even know

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01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: what he knew.

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Speaker 9: That means.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow morning from six have a lovely day and

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01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: do you have happy days?

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01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: Happy questions everybody?

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1795
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