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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty. Find your

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Speaker 1: one of a kind.

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Speaker 2: On the Huddle of Us. This evening we have Jack Tame,

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Speaker 2: host of Q and A Saturday Mornings on ZB as

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Speaker 2: well and Tim Wilson of the Maximu Institute. Hello you too,

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Speaker 2: right Jack? Did you watch the tacoota Ferius video?

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Speaker 3: No? No, I didn't. I I saw the post. Well

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, stop stop talking, stop talking. Have you watched it, Tim?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched. I watched enough of it to win? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I guess number one. The hoodie, the gray sort of monochrome,

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Speaker 4: it's all very auld.

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Speaker 2: Of like did it give you? I've hot boxed my

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Speaker 2: lounge and am now vibing vibes.

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Speaker 4: When you say hot box, do you translate place?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I just smoked a bunch of cones and I and

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Speaker 2: I think this sounds intellectual, but it really doesn't.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't look. Maybe I didn't get enough of

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Speaker 4: it to to paint that picture. I thought when when

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Speaker 4: he when he said he said, you know, these these

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Speaker 4: these the ethnicities helping remove a mari. You know what

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Speaker 4: ke mauri out. It's like, isn't They're just.

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Speaker 2: Trying to they're just trying to help kick one Mary

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Speaker 2: out to replace him with another Maori. So that's not

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Speaker 2: that bad. I would have thought, Jack, you need to

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Speaker 2: go watch this video.

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Speaker 4: It's you do the hot box test. Come on eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: You've got eight minutes when you're trying to get the

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Speaker 2: baby to sleep and you know that the line in

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Speaker 2: the crib.

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Speaker 4: And with one hand, and you watch the video.

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Speaker 2: You're doing that thing where you're sitting them out to

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Speaker 2: make sure that they're a sleepy. To check your headphones

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Speaker 2: and have a watch of Takoota. It's very dark. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to shine much of a light.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I think you hit

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Speaker 3: the nail on the head. This is just going to

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Speaker 3: be I think like actually one of it's not the

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Speaker 3: defining issue for the left block heading into next year,

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Speaker 3: like there's a lot of fuss over later tax teams.

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Speaker 3: I actually think getting to some sort of memorandum of

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Speaker 3: understanding with Tippati Maori about how they're going to approach

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Speaker 3: this election try and keep you know, those kind of

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Speaker 3: soft labor national voters on site. I think it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a monumental challenge and actually, nothing I've really

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Speaker 3: seen from someone to Party Mary's and maybe maybe that

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Speaker 3: apology from Divinardi Wpaka and I would be waited. He

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Speaker 3: last week we constitute this. But I've seen very little

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Speaker 3: from the Party Mali that shows that they're interested in

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Speaker 3: kind of toning things down.

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Speaker 5: They see I disagree with you because I reckon.

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Speaker 2: The two apologies in the space of two what like

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Speaker 2: a week is a very clear indication that they're prepared

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Speaker 2: to tone it down because Jack, they've never apologized for anything.

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Speaker 3: And what about the eight minute video and receipt.

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Speaker 2: But he's gone off the he's gone off the reservation.

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Speaker 2: Isn't he like.

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Speaker 1: It down?

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Speaker 4: Is this? Is this an internal issue where the two

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Speaker 4: leaders trying to tone it down but they haven't actually

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Speaker 4: calmed it with the rank and file.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think yes, But I think they may have

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Speaker 2: commed it with the rank and file. But the rank

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Speaker 2: and file is very used to being radical activist and

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Speaker 2: giving you the finger, and so they might be giving

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Speaker 5: Bo's true and offer a theory and that is that

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Speaker 5: maybe if all of that is true, and it's a

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Speaker 5: big that maybe to Party Maldi's co leaders are more.

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Speaker 3: Interested in being in government than the people a little

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Speaker 3: further down the list rank and that maybe they see themselves.

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Speaker 3: There's potentially been cabinet ministers, whereas someone like harkeet to

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Speaker 3: Fairs is going to go. You know what, I'm never

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Speaker 3: going to be in cabinet, certainly not anytime soon. I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to be a minister. So I'm going to

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Speaker 3: do what's working for us so far. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: I'm going to throw a bit of red meat to

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Speaker 3: my supporters and say what I want to say, whatever

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Speaker 3: the time of the morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you might be right there the huddle

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Speaker 1: with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global leader and

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Speaker 2: All right, you're back with the huddle, Tim Wilson and

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame. Tim, are you happy to see Tom Phillips's

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Speaker 2: accomplices tracked down and charged.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, they're complicit with the with the kidnapping which and

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Speaker 4: particularly this crime against against the kids. So you've participated

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Speaker 4: in a crime. You've got to face the full effect

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Speaker 4: of the law. That seems very straightforward and interesting your

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Speaker 4: conversation with Blantsper The police seem quite confident that that

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Speaker 4: they have a strong evidential base for pursuing these people,

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Speaker 4: So I'd be worried.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack, One of the arguments has been made to

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Speaker 2: me on the text machine is that these people were

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Speaker 2: simply trying to keep the kids fed because they would

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Speaker 2: never have been able to talk him out of coming

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Speaker 2: out of the bush.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, I don't think that holds

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Speaker 3: master as far as I'm concerned, I mean, like considers,

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Speaker 3: the police seem pretty confident. They seem very sure actually

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Speaker 3: that he's been receiving assistance, and you know, I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think they should face the full extent

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Speaker 3: of whatever charges they deserve. You know, I think as

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Speaker 3: sinces have been complicit, and look, there might have been

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Speaker 3: other options available that they could have gone to police

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Speaker 3: if they were really concerned about the children being feed

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Speaker 3: or something like that, that there were other options to pursue.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it wasn't a complex situation, but as

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Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned, all of those who had assisted

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Speaker 3: and should be brought to justice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, Tim, how do you feel about Christopher Luxan spending

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Speaker 2: forty four thousand dollars on his pavlova on the mountain

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Speaker 2: date with Alban Easy.

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Speaker 4: I thought if you go for a trip and a chopper,

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Speaker 4: a couple of shoppers with your rich big brother to

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Speaker 4: eat a food that he claims to have invented. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: then he's got to pay. This is just this is

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Speaker 4: not fair, Am I right? Am I? Right?

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Speaker 2: No, that's ridiculous because he's come to your house. So

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Speaker 2: if he's come to your house, you're obviously like you're

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Speaker 2: laying it on, right.

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Speaker 4: I think I think your sense of we paid what

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Speaker 4: was it, fifty almost fifty four grand for a couple

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Speaker 4: of shoppers that there was no there was no bump

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Speaker 4: from us. You know, there's no social media, they weren't

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Speaker 4: followed by the media. So for all of that sort

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Speaker 4: of budget, you need to see a benefit for that spend,

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Speaker 4: and we're not seeing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon, I reconject. My feeling is they should

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Speaker 2: have if they were going to go like semi bigs,

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Speaker 2: they should have gone completely big and just taken media

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Speaker 2: up and stuff and get absolute bangs for buck.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, well, I mean this is

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Speaker 3: what this is what I don't understand. I mean, first

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Speaker 3: of all, this government sells themselves on being kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, studious minders of the public, finances. We are

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Speaker 3: facing extremely constrained economic conditions, So forty four thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: for a couple of helicopters for some pictures that only

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Speaker 3: really ended up on the Prime minister's social media feed.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Albanese should be guaranteeing that he's

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Speaker 3: going to make Instagram posts or anything like that, but

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Speaker 3: from what I understand, there was no real coordination with

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Speaker 3: the Australian media. So what is the point of this

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Speaker 3: entire thing. If these pecks are only going to be

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Speaker 3: going out to Christopher Luxen's Instagram followers and the domestic

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Speaker 3: audience in New Zealand, what is the point of spending

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Speaker 3: forty four thousand dollars for a pretty cheesy little photo

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Speaker 3: of I don't think it represents GOODBETI and I think

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Speaker 3: it's kind of anathema to the government's self reported values.

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Speaker 2: Time I heard you draw your breath into say something.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to figure out

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Speaker 4: was I thought it was twenty seven k per chopper,

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Speaker 4: so twenty seven times too.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I think we originally thought it was twenty seven thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars and now we found forty four thousand.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Because the chopper, somebody says to me, should only be

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Speaker 2: about twelve thousand dollars in total, which means the padlover

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Speaker 2: was thirty thousand dollars. And that doesn't make any sense,

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Speaker 2: does it.

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Speaker 4: It's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not a world that I.

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Speaker 2: Really chopper ride cost you Jack exactly.

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Speaker 5: Hey, speaking, you can go.

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Speaker 4: You can go in New York for three hundred and

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Speaker 4: a chopper, So there you go. Yeah, but you don't

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Speaker 4: get a pavlover afterwards, you know from.

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Speaker 2: Your high flying life. Okay, I've got one for you guys. Okay, Jack,

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Speaker 2: would you have you? First of all, have you seen

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Speaker 2: how much the new iPhone costs.

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Speaker 3: I've seen how much the new base model costs.

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Speaker 4: No even dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the top of the range is four and

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Speaker 2: a half thousand New Zealand dollars. What would you pay

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Speaker 2: that much for a cell phone?

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Speaker 3: Ah? Well, is that better? Or I suppose like it's eleven,

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Speaker 3: it's eleven, Christopher.

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Speaker 4: And Jack Jacket takes you up in the air and

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Speaker 4: then it bakes you. It bakes you a pavlover as well,

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Speaker 4: and then feed it to Anthony alban Easy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely not, although I would say that, like, I'm

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Speaker 3: currently on a phone that's I think six years old,

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Speaker 3: and if I think about the amount of time I've

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Speaker 3: sent on the phone relative to what I paid for,

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Speaker 3: and it wasn't the top of the line model or

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Speaker 3: anything like that, I do think that you probably get

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Speaker 3: pretty good value.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's still nine hundred dollars a year for

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Speaker 2: a phone. I wouldn't pay that nine hundred dollars a

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Speaker 2: year for.

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Speaker 4: A phone for four and a half case. Not a phone,

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Speaker 4: it's a Suzuki Swerft. I've got it for sale. Just

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Speaker 4: give me a call.

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Speaker 2: Never want to miss an opportunity, guys, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame, Tim Wilson, I huddle this evening year. So

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Speaker 2: four and a half thousand dollars two thousand pounds, four

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Speaker 2: and a half thousand dollars. The most expensive Apple iPhone ever. Well,

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Speaker 2: obviously I didn't have to say iPhone. That was redundant.

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Speaker 2: All Apple phones or iPhones, aren't they. It's the iPhone

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Speaker 2: seventeen Promax. It has advanced processes and redesigned hammers and

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Speaker 2: two terabytes of storage. Everything everything you've ever dreamed for,

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