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Speaker 2: Hello, you got New Zealands. Welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show, Podcast number two eighty one for the fourth

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Speaker 2: of February twenty twenty six. I believe is the year

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Speaker 2: interesting show today. I can't remember what we talked about

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Speaker 2: in the visit.

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Speaker 3: A lot of chat about Winston Peter's partially becoming Prime minister.

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Speaker 2: That was feisty. Yeah, that's right now. There was a

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Speaker 2: good chat, Yeah, fantastic chat and the Australia chat got deep,

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Speaker 2: some really really good calls here. So great show I

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squid, Skoda, News Talk

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Speaker 3: Get a to you. Welcome in too, Wednesday show. Great

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Speaker 3: to have you with us as always. Hope you're doing

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Speaker 3: pretty well. Get a met yet a Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Good everyone, Thanks for tuning in. The number is eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. The text number is nine

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Speaker 2: two nine two. Do you know what's bloody good? Do

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Speaker 2: you know what's bloody good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Tell me a Night of.

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Speaker 2: The Seven Kingdoms?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Have you watched any of this?

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Speaker 3: I haven't yet. I've been hearing good things.

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Speaker 2: So it's a spin off from Game of Thrones. So

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Speaker 2: it's fantasy drama written by George R. R. Martin. It's

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Speaker 2: based on a set of novelity he wrote called The

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Speaker 2: Tales of Duncan Egg And you know, the first book

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Speaker 2: this one's based on is The Hedge Night. But it

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Speaker 2: is so good. It's you know, how fantasy has all

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Speaker 2: got grim and boring and slow and like they're trying

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Speaker 2: to recreate modern times in ye oldie times. Is what's

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Speaker 2: happened now? This is just a really powerful, heroic, old

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Speaker 2: school fantasy, serious, still gritty like Game of Thrones, but

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Speaker 2: you've just got the two main characters are just such

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Speaker 2: great characters. Is a great heroic, awesome characters for once.

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Speaker 2: You know they keep forgetting this in modern entertainment that

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Speaker 2: you need to have heroes you can root for. Yep,

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Speaker 2: that aren't as ambiguous as you're not sure whether they're

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Speaker 2: who you care about and who you love as a character,

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Speaker 2: and I Dunk and Egg are just so good. Dunk

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Speaker 2: is this really really tall hedge night, which is basically

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Speaker 2: a terrible useless night, but he wants to sort of

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Speaker 2: this little Squire, which is this tiny little child with

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Speaker 2: a big egg head, like he's bored and so he's

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Speaker 2: well named. Yeah, and it is just such a great show.

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Speaker 2: It's on Neon in New Zealand and there's three episodes

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Speaker 2: But you know, you might not have liked Game too,

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Speaker 2: full on for you. It's a pretty nasty show. I

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Speaker 3: Is it one of those genre genres that I absolutely

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Speaker 3: love that they go on different adventures each episode that

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely nothing like that, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, good to clarify that. If anybody likes that

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Speaker 2: But this whole series is about Dunk the Tall trying

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Speaker 3: Okay, God good, it's awesome, and I've seeing rave reviews

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Speaker 3: China has become the first country in the world to

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Speaker 3: next year must have clearly visible, mechanically operable handles on

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Speaker 2: I don't really care about that, but I just think

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Speaker 2: You just pull it back and you're open, and it

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that after three after two o'clock. Interesting

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Speaker 3: article or a from a political commentator, I should say

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Speaker 3: David Farrer. So he's argued New Zealand should consider becoming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you think about this practical I

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Speaker 2: You know, what would happen to kru We could still

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Speaker 2: But you know, if it's the difference between you know,

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that chat after two o'clock. That is

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Speaker 3: But as we know, Labor will need friends to try

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand, first is the king maker and they

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Speaker 3: Green Party, the friends of Labor, they got to get

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Speaker 2: Labor loves not picking the Greens to be their buddies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they love it.

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Speaker 2: They'll go New Zealand first every time if they give

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Speaker 2: the chance. Over and over again. They're all friendly with

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Speaker 2: the Greens until it comes to the negotiation and then

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Speaker 2: they totally forget about them. You know, the most you'll

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Speaker 2: get is confidence and supply and maybe some ministers outside

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Speaker 3: They took up a big game early, but then when

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Speaker 3: it comes down to it, say, hey, New Zealand First

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Speaker 2: Of course, though Winston Peters has said he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to work with cross Hipkins right, yes, So what would

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Speaker 2: Labor be willing to give New Zealand first such that

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Would they be willing to offer Winston Peter's the Prime

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Speaker 3: High potential there, high potential and it could go the

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Speaker 7: Have you thought about Labour's most likely path to power

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Speaker 7: being Labor plus New Zealand First and the fact that

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Speaker 7: that's the truth, Chloe? You know that and that and

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Speaker 7: if that was a if when he even sniffed at

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Speaker 7: Chippy's door, Chippy would dump you so fast.

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Speaker 8: Politics is a funny old game, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: Here there.

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Speaker 8: And look, I mean I've said many many times, or

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Speaker 8: don't hate the player, hate the game. If I'm going

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Speaker 8: I think that New Zealanders deserve better than this fixation

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Speaker 7: This is about policies, right, and Winston has policies compatible

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Speaker 7: this is how it works.

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Speaker 3: He'll use it for leverage.

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Speaker 7: You'll play one side off the against the other.

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Speaker 3: And if he goes with Labor, you're out.

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Speaker 7: And that must suck standing there helping Chippy and then

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Speaker 8: Well, I dispute the point that we'll be thrown away.

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Speaker 8: You know, I am here as the co leader of

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Speaker 8: the Green Party, campaigning very strongly for a strong Green

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Speaker 8: across the line that New Zealander is quite frankly need, but.

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Speaker 10: More than that deserve.

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Speaker 8: And look, if people want to cast their vote with

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Speaker 8: to garner a few votes at the last minute, then

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Speaker 8: so be it. His track record speaks for itself.

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Speaker 2: What a track Wicker does speak for itself. And he's

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Speaker 2: incredible at negotiating him mptials. The Greens have been terrible

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Speaker 2: when it comes to negotiations. So you know, as as

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even think about it for a second. Ye,

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon O? Eight one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it, the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons us talks, they'd be

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Speaker 3: Afternoons you eighteen passed one and we're discussing. Discussing rather

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Speaker 2: The first part of it is quite likely Labour pushed

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Speaker 2: it will never happen. Silly to even consider it. Well,

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Speaker 2: didn't they yep. The six says Winston deserves to go

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Speaker 3: Four times. I think he's been deputy prime minister. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Pete's how are you mate?

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Speaker 11: I reckon yeah, Crys reluxing right now. This problem is

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Speaker 11: So I reckon that, Oh Winnie, you know, lest you know,

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Speaker 11: I reckon he's worth to go. They get to that

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Speaker 2: Could you see a situation where you know, the negotiations

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Speaker 2: as Finance Minister or something. Could you see it that

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Speaker 11: It wouldn't be a bad thing because Chris, you're going

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Speaker 11: is he really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean some the die hard Labor supporters will deny that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, whether you go by polling, a lot

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Speaker 3: it's been pretty clear. Winston Peters said, and he changes

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Speaker 2: Leader as leader, right, So Chris Hipkins is not going

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Speaker 2: because I'm the Prime Minister. I'm the leader of this

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Speaker 11: Chippy's gone. There isn't what they haven't dissed him well before.

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Speaker 11: Now you know he's he can't trust him he's still

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Speaker 12: So I don't want.

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Speaker 11: Distantly bought they said before, I reckon when if he

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Speaker 11: if he's hilland versus they's got quite a few votes.

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Speaker 11: The Spats haven't got much.

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Speaker 13: Choice, have they really think?

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Speaker 2: I for your coll Pete, you guys are dreaming. No

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Speaker 2: party will give winn he top job. As long as

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Speaker 2: his ass is pointing to the ground, what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: As the direction of his ass? Is that a saying?

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Speaker 3: That means he must be some sort of a phrase.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard it before. I mean, who's ass doesn't

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Speaker 3: point to the ground? Most of us too.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't think anyone's asked points the ground.

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Speaker 2: One points out straight out back.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're horizontal, depends mine's Mine's pretty stagy to

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Speaker 3: be honest, mate, I mean I'd like it to point horizontally.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you ask is pointing to the ground, I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's not. Let's not got bugged down a sedantics. But

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Speaker 2: wouldn't there mean isn't that when you're in the coffin,

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Speaker 2: then your ass is pointing to the ground, right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, yes, yes, I've cracked the code.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not going to give him the prime ministership

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Speaker 2: once he's dead. There would be a bold move, a

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Speaker 2: very bold move. And you're dreaming if you think we're

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Speaker 3: Text, that's like a weekend at Bernie situation. Oh one

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten to eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Not a problem. He's very well traveled and very intelligent.

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Speaker 2: When Ston Peters would make a fantastic prime minister and

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a lot of faith right there. Nineteen nine

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Speaker 4: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the make asking breakfast.

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Speaker 14: So the rules run getting your driver's license to the

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Speaker 14: four licensed tests has gone Chris Bishop's Transport Minister, and

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Speaker 14: as well as the learner's under twenty five verses over

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Speaker 14: twenty five, Why is age such a critical thing? Because

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Speaker 14: I mean, a good driver is not necessarily age related.

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Speaker 12: No, that's true.

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Speaker 4: You know there are always extremes at either end.

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Speaker 15: But we've tried to calibrate the rules to the risk

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Speaker 15: and the data shows that sixteen to twenty four's have

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Speaker 2: This idea that you go get your license and you

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Speaker 2: never tested again.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you've got to think through the practical complications

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Speaker 4: That would not outweigh the coths of doing it.

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Speaker 3: She it's twenty six past one, so we've asked the question,

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Speaker 3: if New Zealand first becomes king maker after the election,

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Speaker 3: how would you feel about Winston Peters negotiating to become

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Speaker 2: Before we move on from this, because it is getting

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Speaker 2: a lot of feedback on this, is the saying here

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Speaker 2: not well, my ass points to the ground, as an

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Speaker 2: Aussie phrase used to strong and indicate that something will

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Speaker 2: not happen as long as the speaker are alive. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so you guys are dreaming, No party will give Winston

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Speaker 2: top job as long as his ars is pointed was

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Speaker 2: the ground doesn't make sense either way.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm bamboozled by this because I've been googling my

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Speaker 3: butt off trying to figure it all out, and it

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Speaker 3: just the phrase does not make sense.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think the saying makes sense, just

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Speaker 2: that as an example of it doesn't make sense. It's

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Speaker 2: not a good use of that idiot. Yes, because once

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Speaker 2: his ars is pointed to the ground, he definitely won't

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Speaker 3: If you can help us with that though nine as per.

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Speaker 2: Usual, getting getting off topic. Pro Welcome to this show.

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Speaker 2: How are you today?

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Speaker 16: Hey, hey, don't guys, I definitely can't help you with

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Speaker 3: It's an odd one. I did find another one. I

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Speaker 3: quite like it. Those ones ass from a hole in

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Speaker 3: the ground. I think everybody can understand that.

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Speaker 17: What is that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's kind of like he doesn't know his ass

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Speaker 2: Right, so he he but the saying as he knows

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Speaker 2: that he That means he knows a bit of stuff. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: must be all right, we'll sort of yeah, yeah, well

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Speaker 2: we'll get to the borrow of that before the end

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Speaker 2: of the show. Hopefully we'll just put a pin in that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to that later. Proue and what have

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Speaker 16: I'm just going to I think when he's position positioned

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Speaker 16: Whey in the top job, because frankly, I think anyone

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Speaker 2: So you think they're just holding him as leaders so

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Speaker 16: Come on and then not get top job if the

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Speaker 2: He's just there to be sacrificed to the altar of

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I can't see it happening any other way with

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, after twenty seventeen when he I would

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Speaker 2: oh you're not definitely not going to go with Labor.

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Speaker 2: They'll go because you know in twenty seventeen he did,

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Speaker 2: as well. I mean, he's once again incredibly put himself

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Speaker 3: He plays that leverage beautifully, doesn't He creates his own

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Speaker 16: Yeah, he's a he's a great negotiator, which is while

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Speaker 16: Home vote for him because I don't want labor again

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Speaker 16: I will definitely not vote for the New Zealand pier.

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Speaker 2: Right do you think when Winston Peter's was with Labor,

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Speaker 2: you know, would you feel better about Labor if Winston

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, especially if God mid the Greens getting

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Speaker 2: Now, I think when Ston Peters goes up and down

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Speaker 2: in popularity, have you have you liked him the whole

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Speaker 2: time through or has he annoyed you at times to

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Speaker 2: the point where you've gone off them and then he's

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Speaker 2: won you back, because I mean there's been a lot's

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Speaker 2: happened since nineteen ninety six, and you know the first

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Speaker 2: time he showed his skills in m MP.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I feel like he's got I don't know, I

447
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Speaker 16: don't want to say more sensible, as he's got older,

448
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Speaker 16: like not so extreme. But she's never someone that I

449
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Speaker 16: voted for. But I do look at their policies and

450
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Speaker 16: you know, they do have some good sensible policies there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what jumps out, sorry, what jumps out to

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Speaker 2: you as a as a New Zealand first policy that

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Speaker 2: you that you like.

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Speaker 16: Oh God, you putting me on the spot here. I

455
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Speaker 16: don't like it. I mean it starts on the immigration

456
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Speaker 16: is a little bit too strong for me. But I

457
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Speaker 16: can't think of any Sorry, are you.

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Speaker 2: A drill baby drill type person?

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Speaker 16: Prof Well, yeah, it's going to bring money and work

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Speaker 16: into New Zealand technically, and the way that they can

461
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Speaker 16: go about the drilling is so much better than what

462
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Speaker 16: we've done, you know in the past. It's a lot

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Speaker 16: more better for the environment. And you know New Zealand

464
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Speaker 16: needs we need to be able to produce some of

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Speaker 16: our own products that we use.

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Speaker 4: We just need it.

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Speaker 16: We can't keep bringing it in from overseas. It's just

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Speaker 16: not sustainable. So until we've got a better alternative for

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Speaker 16: environmental plan energy, we're.

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Speaker 6: Need to use what we can.

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Speaker 16: And you know, even if we if we did go

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Speaker 16: down the environment way, you still need oil and gas

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Speaker 16: to produce what they want the environmental stuff uses.

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Speaker 3: So well, we found that out the hard way.

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Speaker 2: We'll just bringing it all in from overseas. Now we're

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Speaker 2: sort of outsourcing our mining to other people. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think if you call Prue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great call, Thank you very much. Oh one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call. Love

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Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts. If Labour needs New Zealand first

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Speaker 3: to form a government, how would you feel about Winston

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Speaker 3: Peter's becoming Prime Minister as part of the deal. Love

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Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts back very shortly. Headlines with railing

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Speaker 3: coming up.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says hello young boomers. When he won't work

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Speaker 2: with chippy and when he never lies or changes his mind.

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Speaker 2: Cheers Matt.

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Speaker 3: That's from Winston Peters.

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Speaker 18: You've talked said be headlines with your ride and you

490
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Speaker 18: see those number one taxi app download your ride today.

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Speaker 18: There's now one hundred and sixty five thousand kiwis out

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Speaker 18: of work, with unemployment rising to five point four percent

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Speaker 18: in the December quarter. That's up from five point three

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Speaker 18: in the September quarter. It's a surprise to some economists

495
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Speaker 18: who would forecast the rate to hold steady or drop slightly.

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Speaker 18: A large police presence and a person in a critical

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Speaker 18: condition in Hamilton following reports of a shooting Ulster Street

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Speaker 18: and Abbotsford Street in Fitty Aura accordinged off and some

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Speaker 18: residents told to stay indoors complaints of children going to

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Speaker 18: bed with a bucket because of the late stent from

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Speaker 18: Christ Church's Bromley wastewater treatment plant. Residents packed the community

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Speaker 18: center last night demanding answers over the smell that fled

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Speaker 18: up again last week. A large Poor Fey's taken place

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Speaker 18: at the Whitetangi to welcome the Mardy Queen. Politicians are

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Speaker 18: also there, with Prime Minister Chris Luxen meeting with Nati

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Speaker 18: Wai chair up at Ahama Edwards, who took David Seymour's

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Speaker 18: microphone last year. Super costly politicians hesitant to heat Treasury

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Speaker 18: warnings on curtailing cost of in zid super you can

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Speaker 18: see more that INZID here will premium Back to matt

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Speaker 18: Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylene, I get it.

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Speaker 2: My partner Tracy, she was asking questions about a smell

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Speaker 2: that flared up in our room last night.

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Speaker 3: Again, who calls this here? Are you clearly you? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's just say yeah. There's sympathy though with the people

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Speaker 3: of christ So.

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Speaker 2: There's two people in the room and it wasn't her.

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Speaker 3: It's very much Manshake.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to point Fingers Troy, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 12: Firstly, poor Tracy if she needs to put up for

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Speaker 12: the next three years forget about government, she's got the

522
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Speaker 12: hard line to.

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Speaker 19: Have to deal with that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think the Winston question is really interesting because, as

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Speaker 12: much as it would make for great soundbites and a

527
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Speaker 12: hell of a circus over the next three years, as

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Speaker 12: the ride Honorable Winston Peters was an East prime minister,

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Speaker 12: I just can't see either party actually agreeing to it.

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Speaker 12: That ended up as a one term government regardless, because

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Speaker 12: the majority of people aren't voting for the larger party

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Speaker 12: and the minority party. It's the tail wagging the dog.

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Speaker 12: But as you put their mat, you know, Winston is

534
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Speaker 12: a wily old dog. He knows how to do it.

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Speaker 12: He knows how to play the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, twenty seventeen, as we keep saying, it was

537
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Speaker 2: always about New Zealand first, bring stability, and you know,

538
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Speaker 2: there was talk of going with the majority party and

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Speaker 2: he did. He went with the He went with the

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Speaker 2: party that got the second most votes, not the party

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Speaker 2: they got the most fots. I mean, National did incredibly

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Speaker 2: well in that twenty seventeen electure. Yeah, and when he

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Speaker 2: handed it to the other guys.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think you've got a look at it.

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Speaker 12: He's you know, he said I was on a work

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Speaker 12: which I be. And I think that person that said before,

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Speaker 12: as you know, he's a man of honor. Well, look,

548
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Speaker 12: he's a man of honor as long as you understand

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Speaker 12: the way his honor works. But I think he you know,

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Speaker 12: he also would be you know, he loves racing and

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Speaker 12: Karen McNulty as a big racing man himself. I think

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Speaker 12: he was ex worked at t B, so I think

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Speaker 12: that once it'd easily be able to work with him

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Speaker 12: if he was the leader of labor. But you know,

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Speaker 12: I think stranger things have happened. But I challenge the

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Speaker 12: two parties that are probably closest and policy are probably

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Speaker 12: National and Labor. Yes, have we ever got a chance

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Speaker 12: of a super coalition?

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a good question.

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Speaker 12: But funnier things have happened. It happens internationally. It hasn't

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Speaker 12: been looked at here in the media. Seemed to stop

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Speaker 12: that one. But I'll tell you what a super coalition

563
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Speaker 12: could actually end all these discussions.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you just said that, true because Tyler and

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Speaker 2: I were talking about this before the show, and we're

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Speaker 2: actually thinking maybe that would be a good topic because

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Speaker 2: when you saw Labor and the Greens, well Chris Hopkins

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Speaker 2: and the two leaders of the grounds stranger a party

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Speaker 2: to have two leaders, I mean, how does that work?

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Speaker 2: He would be the prime minis you basically you've got

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Speaker 2: two leaders this inside issue. You're saying you never want

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Speaker 2: to be the top party. Yeah, because you would have

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Speaker 2: to have one promise. But anyway, that's by the bye.

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Speaker 2: And you're talking about the differences, you start to think,

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Speaker 2: hang on a minute, Labor, you are closer to national

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Speaker 2: than you are to these guys. You're so much closer

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Speaker 2: to national than these guys because everything you have to

578
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Speaker 2: bat down everything, you know, wealth tax you have to

579
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Speaker 2: put that back down, you know, defund the police, all

580
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Speaker 2: kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: You could see it in Hippy's face as they were

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Speaker 3: getting some questions about the wealth tax and they asked

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Speaker 3: the Green Party, you know, how are you going to

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Speaker 3: get this past Chris Hipkins And he didn't say anything.

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Speaker 3: And I think the response was when it's not up

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Speaker 3: to Chris Hipkins, is up to the voters. But poor

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Speaker 3: old Chippy's just sitting there. That can warn cheap as well.

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Speaker 3: How am I going to deal with that when when

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Speaker 3: it comes to.

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Speaker 12: Time, if you take about twenty years, I think the

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Speaker 12: Greens are the Labor of twenty years ago, an act

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Speaker 12: of the National of twenty years ago. But you know,

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Speaker 12: the Greens of the Watermelon party, as everybody knows, green

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Speaker 12: on the outside, red on the inside. And I just

595
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Speaker 12: think the you know, we've got the king maker of

596
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Speaker 12: Winston there, but imagine having that taken away from him.

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Speaker 12: If all of a sudden Labor and National sat down

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Speaker 12: and had these discussions, it'll be that probably keeps control

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Speaker 12: of power for the next twenty years?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 2: So the election results in and you know, Christopher Luxen

602
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Speaker 2: gets on the phote to Chippy and goes, should we

603
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Speaker 2: just make a burg Old party.

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Speaker 3: To get all this mess? There's let's just get together finally,

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Speaker 3: come on.

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Speaker 2: But it's ridiculous that that's a ridiculous thing to say,

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Speaker 2: because they are closer in what they do, and I

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Speaker 2: feel like the Labor Party would probably go, well, we're

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Speaker 2: going to have actually in the end, have less arguments

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Speaker 2: with National because they're the kind of nuances of the

611
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Speaker 2: same thing. And why a lot of National voters don't

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Speaker 2: like Labor is because how far they go towards the Greens.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got a Labor that moves towards National

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Speaker 2: then and then you know, instead of moving towards the Greens,

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Speaker 2: then at a lot of people be like sweet Air's

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Speaker 2: Grand Coalition. Let's go that's the government rul.

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Speaker 12: We'll take credit it. We'll take credit the three of us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your try enjoy it right, We'll float

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Speaker 3: that to both parties and see what they say. Oh,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call if you're keen to have a chat about the

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Speaker 3: idea of a super coalition. By all means, give us

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Speaker 3: a buzz. Could it happen. It's happened overseas. It makes

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Speaker 3: I mean logically it does make more sense. As you

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Speaker 3: mentioned before, Labor to take the shekels off trying to

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Speaker 3: cowtow to the Green Party.

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Speaker 2: Well, big parties have to move towards the center to

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Speaker 2: get the kind of numbers they need to be the

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Speaker 2: majority party. So you know, it's quite a left leaning

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Speaker 2: Labor at the moment, but you watch them coming up

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Speaker 2: to the election, they'll be they'll they'll be blasting out

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Speaker 2: more and more centralist chat I can imagine, I imagine,

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Speaker 2: and so that you know, just to be a bigger

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Speaker 2: party you have to move towards the center right and

635
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Speaker 2: so you know, eventually you butt up against your opposition,

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Speaker 2: your main opposition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is nineteen to two nine two nine two

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Speaker 3: is the text. Keen on your thoughts back very soon

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Speaker 3: a fresh take.

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Speaker 1: On took back Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons with Skoda.

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Speaker 1: Please go to codes every day at sCOD dot co

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Speaker 1: dot nzd have your say on eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: ten eighty news talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be news talks. It'd be sixteen to two. Would

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Speaker 3: you be comfortable with Winston Peters becoming Prime Minister of Labor?

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Speaker 3: Head to rely on ed zed first former government.

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Speaker 2: Hey, no, need to have a discussion. National is so

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Speaker 2: far left they are the new Labor. I mean that

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Speaker 2: that's this, you know, the Grand Coalition idea that Troy

650
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Speaker 2: was floating before a lot of people that are right,

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Speaker 2: you know, senter right. That's their biggest complaint about National,

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Speaker 2: Isn't it that they're too far left? That they haven't

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Speaker 2: they haven't been fiscally conservative enough that they haven't done

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Speaker 2: what they thought they would do when they get in

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Speaker 2: across the number of issues, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, letting down the conservative value so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's the complaint. I hear the

658
00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:44,573
Speaker 2: most on the text machine here about national that they

659
00:29:44,613 --> 00:29:48,333
Speaker 2: aren't national enough, so which you know, plays into what

660
00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:50,693
Speaker 2: Troy's saying, which means they are quite close to labor,

661
00:29:51,013 --> 00:29:53,773
Speaker 2: although as this text says, this is not the old labor.

662
00:29:53,853 --> 00:29:56,093
Speaker 2: These guys are much closer to the Greens than labor

663
00:29:56,173 --> 00:30:00,413
Speaker 2: has been historically. So maybe maybe labor is maybe everything's just.

664
00:30:00,533 --> 00:30:03,933
Speaker 3: Moved moved left. Yeah, I think you're right.

665
00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:07,453
Speaker 2: A labor coalition has been suggested some ten years ago.

666
00:30:07,493 --> 00:30:10,253
Speaker 2: If our politicians hear about us, then that would be

667
00:30:10,453 --> 00:30:12,813
Speaker 2: worth considering a game balancing the box and looking after

668
00:30:12,933 --> 00:30:15,413
Speaker 2: us without squandering the cash. You know, if you if

669
00:30:15,453 --> 00:30:19,533
Speaker 2: you had the Grand Coalition, perhaps they could make plans

670
00:30:19,973 --> 00:30:23,053
Speaker 2: that were longer than three years long. You know, they

671
00:30:23,093 --> 00:30:26,253
Speaker 2: can make huge plans going on forever because they'd go, well,

672
00:30:26,893 --> 00:30:28,453
Speaker 2: Labor National game, we're probably going to be in for

673
00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:29,013
Speaker 2: a few terms here.

674
00:30:29,093 --> 00:30:31,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can all agree. How would you

675
00:30:31,093 --> 00:30:32,533
Speaker 3: eat the Prime minister though? I mean you could do

676
00:30:32,653 --> 00:30:34,693
Speaker 3: they did it last time with the deputy Prime minister?

677
00:30:35,213 --> 00:30:37,533
Speaker 3: You have half a year each or a year and

678
00:30:37,533 --> 00:30:40,893
Speaker 3: a half each. Eighteen months so Chippy or indeed Winston

679
00:30:40,933 --> 00:30:43,613
Speaker 3: Peters and then Christopher Luxen eighty months a pop.

680
00:30:43,733 --> 00:30:44,213
Speaker 6: To tell you what.

681
00:30:44,293 --> 00:30:47,933
Speaker 2: It's a fun discussion, but not see it coming in

682
00:30:48,013 --> 00:30:50,773
Speaker 2: the negotiations. Chippy'll be like, I want to be PM.

683
00:30:53,493 --> 00:30:58,213
Speaker 3: No, let's hear our toys.

684
00:30:58,333 --> 00:31:00,533
Speaker 2: But you know who ever got the most high? If

685
00:31:00,573 --> 00:31:02,613
Speaker 2: someone gets thirty five and the other one gets thirty six,

686
00:31:02,733 --> 00:31:04,413
Speaker 2: then tough bookies that.

687
00:31:04,533 --> 00:31:06,413
Speaker 3: Guy gets to be the PM goes to the thirty six?

688
00:31:06,533 --> 00:31:07,853
Speaker 2: Is that particular, Chris?

689
00:31:08,013 --> 00:31:10,453
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties number to

690
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:14,573
Speaker 3: call Bill? What do you reckon? Hey Bill?

691
00:31:16,533 --> 00:31:16,733
Speaker 2: Bill?

692
00:31:16,893 --> 00:31:23,533
Speaker 3: Bill William, Hey William, you're there. We can hear you.

693
00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:25,573
Speaker 13: Okay, So.

694
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:30,213
Speaker 20: This coalitions.

695
00:31:32,733 --> 00:31:34,093
Speaker 3: Or Bill, we're going to come back to you.

696
00:31:34,253 --> 00:31:36,373
Speaker 2: Whatever is in the backgrounds louder than what you are. Yeah,

697
00:31:36,453 --> 00:31:38,933
Speaker 2: you're breaking, You're coming and out, So give us a

698
00:31:39,053 --> 00:31:39,373
Speaker 2: ring back.

699
00:31:39,413 --> 00:31:41,493
Speaker 3: Sorry about that, Bill, We'll try and sort that out.

700
00:31:41,493 --> 00:31:43,253
Speaker 3: The lids of a check to Craig Greg, how are

701
00:31:43,293 --> 00:31:43,653
Speaker 3: you mate?

702
00:31:46,133 --> 00:31:46,293
Speaker 10: Oh?

703
00:31:46,413 --> 00:31:50,213
Speaker 2: No, Craig is a is this some kind of systemic

704
00:31:50,293 --> 00:31:51,173
Speaker 2: problem with their phones.

705
00:31:52,213 --> 00:31:53,653
Speaker 4: Hello, can you hear me?

706
00:31:53,853 --> 00:31:58,253
Speaker 12: Hey, you were just teasing us, mate, Yeah, no, I'm

707
00:31:58,253 --> 00:32:01,213
Speaker 12: gonna worry at the moment at a little bit, Dog,

708
00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:03,933
Speaker 12: if you could wake more Prime.

709
00:32:03,813 --> 00:32:06,493
Speaker 21: Minister and they had to work with the miss you

710
00:32:06,573 --> 00:32:13,133
Speaker 21: know the part I would always over there. I think.

711
00:32:17,173 --> 00:32:19,813
Speaker 3: Tell you what, One New Zealand Spark, what are you

712
00:32:19,893 --> 00:32:22,173
Speaker 3: doing to us? I used to love you guys, and

713
00:32:22,253 --> 00:32:25,133
Speaker 3: you've just completely ruined this hour at the moment with

714
00:32:25,213 --> 00:32:27,373
Speaker 3: this dodgy, dodgy reception going out in the WAPs of

715
00:32:27,373 --> 00:32:27,813
Speaker 3: New Zealand.

716
00:32:27,933 --> 00:32:29,453
Speaker 2: Or was it One New Zealand or Spark who runs

717
00:32:29,493 --> 00:32:29,813
Speaker 2: our phone?

718
00:32:29,893 --> 00:32:31,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good point. I don't know. I love both

719
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Speaker 3: of you guys. Can you just get the phone on.

720
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Speaker 4: Right?

721
00:32:35,733 --> 00:32:38,013
Speaker 3: We are going to come back and get those phones sorted,

722
00:32:38,053 --> 00:32:38,933
Speaker 3: because really, can you hear what.

723
00:32:39,253 --> 00:32:39,573
Speaker 10: Is going on?

724
00:32:39,733 --> 00:32:42,293
Speaker 2: The recently shut down three g networkers out? Is that

725
00:32:42,373 --> 00:32:42,693
Speaker 2: the problem?

726
00:32:42,733 --> 00:32:42,853
Speaker 5: Here?

727
00:32:42,853 --> 00:32:45,573
Speaker 3: A possibility twelve to two Beck of the mo.

728
00:32:46,933 --> 00:32:50,453
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

729
00:32:50,493 --> 00:32:53,013
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

730
00:32:53,173 --> 00:32:56,333
Speaker 1: Afternoons News talksb news Talks.

731
00:32:56,373 --> 00:32:58,813
Speaker 3: There be it is nine to two and we are

732
00:32:58,973 --> 00:33:02,133
Speaker 3: talking about the possibility of Winston Peter's negotiating become prime

733
00:33:02,213 --> 00:33:04,693
Speaker 3: minister if Labor needs his help? What do you say?

734
00:33:04,893 --> 00:33:08,293
Speaker 2: And a side serving of the grand Coalition between Labor

735
00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:10,613
Speaker 2: and National Craig work with the show.

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Speaker 21: Gooday, guys, how are you lovely? I would love to

737
00:33:16,693 --> 00:33:19,373
Speaker 21: see Winston as prime minister. I've never voted to New

738
00:33:19,453 --> 00:33:24,333
Speaker 21: Zealand first. But the guy is, he's got years on

739
00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:25,053
Speaker 21: his shoulders.

740
00:33:25,653 --> 00:33:27,733
Speaker 2: He is lots of years.

741
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Speaker 21: Sure, he's statesman looking. He's a good looking guy. Not

742
00:33:33,013 --> 00:33:38,533
Speaker 21: what he's done as Foreign minister. He can smooth with

743
00:33:39,613 --> 00:33:45,293
Speaker 21: any political person around the world. I actually we had

744
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:48,333
Speaker 21: this conversation with friends for a year or so back

745
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,653
Speaker 21: and I said, you know what, if these politicians are

746
00:33:51,733 --> 00:33:57,653
Speaker 21: awards New Zealand's interests first and not their egos, I

747
00:33:57,853 --> 00:34:02,053
Speaker 21: believe that this current Coaliston should have been Winston as

748
00:34:02,133 --> 00:34:06,933
Speaker 21: Prime Minister and Lutson's deputy. But that's not going to happen.

749
00:34:07,013 --> 00:34:07,933
Speaker 21: But there's too much ego.

750
00:34:09,652 --> 00:34:11,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you think that that ego would disappear

751
00:34:11,893 --> 00:34:14,613
Speaker 2: if it was a difference before National with getting in

752
00:34:15,172 --> 00:34:18,493
Speaker 2: and not getting in. If you're negotiating with New Zealand

753
00:34:18,533 --> 00:34:21,373
Speaker 2: first after the election, and New Zealand first goes, well,

754
00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:24,813
Speaker 2: you know labor have offered us, thus what have you

755
00:34:24,853 --> 00:34:27,653
Speaker 2: got us? And so it was power or no power?

756
00:34:28,453 --> 00:34:31,813
Speaker 2: You know Winston is PM or you're not in at all.

757
00:34:32,893 --> 00:34:34,773
Speaker 21: Well, I would sort of like the things though. I

758
00:34:34,893 --> 00:34:42,133
Speaker 21: think we've lacked over the last twelve plus years. We

759
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:46,773
Speaker 21: have lacked someone capable of actually leading the people of

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Speaker 21: New Zealand, and I think Winston's that guy.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Thanks for your call, Craig, big fan boys, Winston's

762
00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:59,692
Speaker 2: last radio radio only deserves to be PM. I would

763
00:34:59,733 --> 00:35:05,053
Speaker 2: much rather Winston as PM and Luxeon bring it on.

764
00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:08,933
Speaker 2: I vote National. Winston starts polse is driven by a

765
00:35:08,933 --> 00:35:12,013
Speaker 2: political expediency instead of principles. Says the text that he's

766
00:35:12,013 --> 00:35:14,813
Speaker 2: literally a career politician and people think he'd be the answer,

767
00:35:15,053 --> 00:35:16,133
Speaker 2: not a chance.

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Speaker 3: Keep those texts coming through A nine two nine. So

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Speaker 3: I got to say, just quickly before we go to another, Craig,

770
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Speaker 3: when Winston Peters has given a job he wants to do,

771
00:35:24,653 --> 00:35:27,493
Speaker 3: he is very good at that, very competent. When he's busy,

772
00:35:27,933 --> 00:35:31,133
Speaker 3: he takes it very seriously. Winston Peters starts to annoy

773
00:35:31,173 --> 00:35:32,853
Speaker 3: the other parties when he's not given much to do.

774
00:35:33,373 --> 00:35:35,053
Speaker 3: So if you give him a job like the Prime Minister,

775
00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:37,093
Speaker 3: he's going to be loving that and he'll do a

776
00:35:37,133 --> 00:35:39,493
Speaker 3: great job and everybody's happy. So maybe it would be

777
00:35:39,493 --> 00:35:40,293
Speaker 3: a win win for labor.

778
00:35:40,413 --> 00:35:42,613
Speaker 2: The six is absolutely not. Peter's is a fraud. He

779
00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:46,213
Speaker 2: voted for net zero legislation. Okay, so that's a not

780
00:35:46,573 --> 00:35:47,093
Speaker 2: right enough.

781
00:35:47,333 --> 00:35:49,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, person, Craig, how are you mate?

782
00:35:50,373 --> 00:35:52,093
Speaker 6: Oh, good mate, good mate, can you hear me?

783
00:35:52,173 --> 00:35:52,333
Speaker 22: Good?

784
00:35:52,453 --> 00:35:53,653
Speaker 3: Gotcha beautiful?

785
00:35:53,933 --> 00:35:57,133
Speaker 6: Yeah, I sort it'd help you out into your own problems. Now,

786
00:35:57,453 --> 00:36:00,293
Speaker 6: I'm a fan of Winston, and I explained it to

787
00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:02,453
Speaker 6: people of this is that in the past he has

788
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:04,573
Speaker 6: worked with labor, but when he works with labor, he's

789
00:36:04,573 --> 00:36:07,692
Speaker 6: a bit like National. When he works with National, he's

790
00:36:07,693 --> 00:36:09,813
Speaker 6: a little bit like what I call the old labor,

791
00:36:10,333 --> 00:36:13,653
Speaker 6: you know, the old labor where the interested in the

792
00:36:13,773 --> 00:36:16,293
Speaker 6: traditional things the Labor Party will set up for, you know,

793
00:36:16,453 --> 00:36:19,772
Speaker 6: but a fair play, decent pay, that sort of stuff. Yeah,

794
00:36:19,893 --> 00:36:23,213
Speaker 6: And as you just said, he he's a good politician.

795
00:36:23,293 --> 00:36:26,213
Speaker 6: You think about whenever he goes overseas to do stuff

796
00:36:26,213 --> 00:36:28,853
Speaker 6: in New Zealand. He never criticizes New Zealand or our

797
00:36:28,933 --> 00:36:34,733
Speaker 6: government when he's overseas and but sometimes when he's at

798
00:36:34,813 --> 00:36:37,173
Speaker 6: home in the opposition and he makes.

799
00:36:37,093 --> 00:36:37,333
Speaker 10: Up for it.

800
00:36:37,853 --> 00:36:39,373
Speaker 3: They love him overseas. Absolutely.

801
00:36:39,493 --> 00:36:42,413
Speaker 2: He goes hard at home, but he does at home.

802
00:36:42,573 --> 00:36:47,693
Speaker 2: He does understand the statesman statesman when you need to

803
00:36:47,733 --> 00:36:49,893
Speaker 2: turn into that role, right and he has Deputy Prime

804
00:36:49,933 --> 00:36:52,013
Speaker 2: Minister when he is Foreign Minister. He does understand that

805
00:36:52,133 --> 00:36:54,733
Speaker 2: old school kind of dignity you need to bring to

806
00:36:54,813 --> 00:36:58,893
Speaker 2: certain roles. And then back in New Zealand, just absolutely

807
00:36:59,533 --> 00:37:01,773
Speaker 2: the Greens and Tipati Marti a new one in Parliament.

808
00:37:02,853 --> 00:37:06,053
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Labor at the moment, Labor Party is defaulting

809
00:37:06,613 --> 00:37:10,733
Speaker 6: because they've they've forgotten the baked in. I think a

810
00:37:10,773 --> 00:37:12,493
Speaker 6: lot of people agree. They've got really a lot into

811
00:37:12,573 --> 00:37:16,973
Speaker 6: social engineering and environmentalism in the forgetting the route the

812
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:20,493
Speaker 6: party has originally set up for. And that plays into

813
00:37:20,533 --> 00:37:27,053
Speaker 6: New Zealand first hand. And yeah, so you think better, Grant, Yeah,

814
00:37:27,533 --> 00:37:28,093
Speaker 6: you're still.

815
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Speaker 2: There, yep, yep, still there. We're going to have to

816
00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:31,172
Speaker 2: move you on on a second. Thank you for your

817
00:37:31,173 --> 00:37:31,613
Speaker 2: cool create.

818
00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:34,693
Speaker 6: Yeah, but when you're talking about a great Grand coalition,

819
00:37:36,493 --> 00:37:38,653
Speaker 6: you're really sort of talking about the old National Party

820
00:37:39,453 --> 00:37:43,093
Speaker 6: because their old National Party before started changing had it

821
00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,813
Speaker 6: for the labor in it. And as Winston Peter has

822
00:37:45,853 --> 00:37:48,133
Speaker 6: always said, the group of people who learned the most

823
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:50,933
Speaker 6: from the first labor government, which was Mickey Savage, Peter

824
00:37:51,013 --> 00:37:54,773
Speaker 6: Fraser brought the National Party themselves and so for us

825
00:37:54,893 --> 00:37:57,253
Speaker 6: years national parties who win most elections because they had

826
00:37:57,373 --> 00:38:00,172
Speaker 6: enough labor in it that the traditional vote is something

827
00:38:00,173 --> 00:38:01,573
Speaker 6: that didn't you have to vote for labor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, Craig, thank you very much, mate. Good thoughts.

829
00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:07,933
Speaker 2: Was that a monster or a cow behind them?

830
00:38:07,973 --> 00:38:11,172
Speaker 3: He could have gone either way on that one. Yeah,

831
00:38:11,613 --> 00:38:15,333
Speaker 3: fantasic a Demi Gorgan certainly the fantastic chat. Thank you

832
00:38:15,573 --> 00:38:18,093
Speaker 3: very much to everyone who phoned and called on that.

833
00:38:18,853 --> 00:38:20,533
Speaker 3: I guess we'll just wait and see what happens when

834
00:38:20,533 --> 00:38:25,333
Speaker 3: those negotiations inevitably come to pass and super coalition come on,

835
00:38:25,493 --> 00:38:25,773
Speaker 3: let's go.

836
00:38:26,253 --> 00:38:31,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, well wait till next ours topic more feculation.

837
00:38:31,613 --> 00:38:33,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is going to be a doozy. Should we

838
00:38:33,613 --> 00:38:36,893
Speaker 3: become the seventh State of Australia. We'll explain a little

839
00:38:36,933 --> 00:38:38,853
Speaker 3: bit more on that shortly, but taking your calls A

840
00:38:38,933 --> 00:38:41,013
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty and the text

841
00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:44,413
Speaker 3: number nine to nine to New Sport and weather coming up.

842
00:38:44,733 --> 00:38:46,973
Speaker 3: Stay right here. We'll be back with more great chat

843
00:38:47,133 --> 00:38:47,493
Speaker 3: very soon.

844
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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

845
00:38:54,613 --> 00:38:58,093
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons with Skoda News Talk said beat.

846
00:38:58,333 --> 00:39:01,252
Speaker 3: Very good Afternoons. Youre welcome back into the show, Hey, Tyler.

847
00:39:01,293 --> 00:39:01,732
Speaker 2: When you were.

848
00:39:01,733 --> 00:39:04,013
Speaker 3: Away on Friday, yep.

849
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:06,093
Speaker 2: And I did the show by myself yep. With a

850
00:39:06,133 --> 00:39:10,453
Speaker 2: plumb a A strain came through all the topics I

851
00:39:10,533 --> 00:39:12,853
Speaker 2: was talking about around bird attacks in New Zealand. Right

852
00:39:13,413 --> 00:39:15,173
Speaker 2: there were people texting and saying that the birds are

853
00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:18,252
Speaker 2: organizing against us. There's a lot of paranoia that maybe

854
00:39:18,333 --> 00:39:22,533
Speaker 2: the birds are getting together and fighting back, and there's

855
00:39:22,573 --> 00:39:24,293
Speaker 2: a text has just come through. If someone could come

856
00:39:24,413 --> 00:39:26,213
Speaker 2: up with the policy to reduce the number of birds

857
00:39:26,293 --> 00:39:28,692
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, the bird attacks, particularly around glen Nis,

858
00:39:28,813 --> 00:39:31,853
Speaker 2: and the actual physical size of New Zealand seagulls, then

859
00:39:31,893 --> 00:39:32,692
Speaker 2: I would vote for them.

860
00:39:34,613 --> 00:39:36,133
Speaker 3: I can understand the concern.

861
00:39:36,413 --> 00:39:39,093
Speaker 2: There was someone saying that they're getting attacked constantly on

862
00:39:39,213 --> 00:39:42,333
Speaker 2: building sites and I said, look, paint some eyes on

863
00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:46,053
Speaker 2: the back of your hard hat. And then farmers, I'm saying, yeah,

864
00:39:46,093 --> 00:39:48,933
Speaker 2: tell that to lammies. Yeah, because the magpies are coming

865
00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:51,573
Speaker 2: and the seagulls that come and eat the eyes out

866
00:39:51,573 --> 00:39:53,253
Speaker 2: of lambs, do they yeah.

867
00:39:53,373 --> 00:39:55,733
Speaker 3: Cheapers, Yeah, they are turning against us.

868
00:39:56,133 --> 00:39:56,333
Speaker 21: Yeah.

869
00:39:56,493 --> 00:39:59,933
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. I don't know where to

870
00:39:59,973 --> 00:40:02,973
Speaker 2: take this. I mean, I don't know if it's paranoia

871
00:40:03,493 --> 00:40:06,453
Speaker 2: or we were entering a sort of Alfredge Hitchcock type

872
00:40:06,773 --> 00:40:09,773
Speaker 2: the birds situation. Yeah, but so many texts coming through

873
00:40:09,893 --> 00:40:11,093
Speaker 2: saying the birds are organizing.

874
00:40:11,173 --> 00:40:12,573
Speaker 3: I think we've just got to be on our guard.

875
00:40:12,693 --> 00:40:14,453
Speaker 3: That's what it's about, you know, just keep an eye out.

876
00:40:14,493 --> 00:40:16,253
Speaker 3: So those seagulls are getting bigger. There's some muis and

877
00:40:16,333 --> 00:40:16,973
Speaker 3: seagulls out there.

878
00:40:17,013 --> 00:40:18,813
Speaker 2: Well, on Friday, someone takes it through and said, get

879
00:40:18,893 --> 00:40:21,212
Speaker 2: some There's some kind of fish guts you can rub

880
00:40:21,293 --> 00:40:23,133
Speaker 2: on the top of your helmet, and then one seagull

881
00:40:23,133 --> 00:40:27,893
Speaker 2: will sit on your helmet, and then it's the rest

882
00:40:27,933 --> 00:40:29,212
Speaker 2: of the birds will think you're on their side.

883
00:40:30,213 --> 00:40:32,493
Speaker 3: If you just carry around, you've changed allegiances.

884
00:40:32,613 --> 00:40:34,413
Speaker 2: If you're just carrying one seagull around, they'll go that

885
00:40:34,453 --> 00:40:36,973
Speaker 2: one's all right. A few years ago I was involved

886
00:40:37,013 --> 00:40:39,733
Speaker 2: in the murder of a seagull. Oh no, and for

887
00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:41,413
Speaker 2: a while I thought that the seagulls were coming for me.

888
00:40:41,453 --> 00:40:44,013
Speaker 2: After that, it wasn't my fault. I was eating chips

889
00:40:44,293 --> 00:40:47,013
Speaker 2: and I threw one away and the seagull went to

890
00:40:47,173 --> 00:40:49,853
Speaker 2: eat it just as the car was coming past. So

891
00:40:49,933 --> 00:40:51,253
Speaker 2: the seagull flew and got the chip, and.

892
00:40:52,013 --> 00:40:55,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'd take it. There were other seagull witnesses, Yeah, yeah,

893
00:40:55,173 --> 00:40:57,093
Speaker 3: they would have seen it. They would have followed you home.

894
00:40:57,213 --> 00:40:58,373
Speaker 3: May they We're going to get this guy.

895
00:40:58,573 --> 00:41:01,333
Speaker 2: Maybe this is when it's Maybe this is when this

896
00:41:01,373 --> 00:41:05,613
Speaker 2: whole thing started. Maybe that was the first instigator of

897
00:41:05,653 --> 00:41:08,973
Speaker 2: the whole bird versus human war. Anyway, Asian zero moving on,

898
00:41:09,213 --> 00:41:10,853
Speaker 2: all right, so let's get into this one. This is

899
00:41:10,853 --> 00:41:12,973
Speaker 2: going to be a fascinating chat. So an article out

900
00:41:13,013 --> 00:41:16,613
Speaker 2: today It explores a provocative argument by political commentator David

901
00:41:16,693 --> 00:41:20,893
Speaker 2: Farrier Pharaoh Rather. He suggests New Zealand should consider becoming

902
00:41:21,173 --> 00:41:25,333
Speaker 2: the seventh Australian state. So he sees this because after

903
00:41:25,813 --> 00:41:29,053
Speaker 2: post World War two, rules based global order is breaking down,

904
00:41:29,773 --> 00:41:31,733
Speaker 2: and that New Zealand is a small country, would be

905
00:41:31,773 --> 00:41:34,252
Speaker 2: safer and stronger if it moves with Australia. He also

906
00:41:34,293 --> 00:41:35,133
Speaker 2: suggests the two.

907
00:41:35,053 --> 00:41:39,373
Speaker 3: Nations and naturally compatible and such a move could actually

908
00:41:39,413 --> 00:41:40,093
Speaker 3: benefit both.

909
00:41:40,293 --> 00:41:43,213
Speaker 2: It's amazing how naturally compatible we are after Australia. I mean,

910
00:41:43,253 --> 00:41:46,453
Speaker 2: that's I think think people forget that most countries in

911
00:41:46,453 --> 00:41:50,893
Speaker 2: the world don't have their closest neighbor being their strongest

912
00:41:50,933 --> 00:41:54,253
Speaker 2: ally in so many countries, I mean, look at India

913
00:41:54,293 --> 00:41:59,453
Speaker 2: and Pakistan, all right, yeah, yeah, there's so many countries

914
00:41:59,453 --> 00:42:01,292
Speaker 2: in the world where their neighbor is their worst enemy.

915
00:42:01,373 --> 00:42:01,573
Speaker 5: Yeah.

916
00:42:01,933 --> 00:42:04,013
Speaker 3: Irana rak not much love thy neighbor.

917
00:42:04,213 --> 00:42:08,292
Speaker 2: Yeah. So greater security guarantees, access to a larger comic

918
00:42:08,373 --> 00:42:11,453
Speaker 2: economy would be another one. So all the barriers for

919
00:42:11,573 --> 00:42:14,373
Speaker 2: US exporting to Australia would be gone. And you know,

920
00:42:14,813 --> 00:42:18,973
Speaker 2: you know part of how more powerful trade deals with

921
00:42:19,053 --> 00:42:24,212
Speaker 2: Australia and New Zealand. We'd have stronger influence in the region. Yes,

922
00:42:24,373 --> 00:42:28,613
Speaker 2: you know, ye in the Pacific. Better military yep, sheared,

923
00:42:28,653 --> 00:42:31,853
Speaker 2: defense and infrastructure. There's a lot of good stuff. This

924
00:42:32,013 --> 00:42:34,653
Speaker 2: text says, yes, yes, yes, yes, bring on, bring it on,

925
00:42:35,173 --> 00:42:38,173
Speaker 2: seventh seventh state. Yes, so that's positive.

926
00:42:38,293 --> 00:42:38,493
Speaker 5: Yep.

927
00:42:38,813 --> 00:42:40,212
Speaker 2: Can we join without the South Island?

928
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:42,293
Speaker 3: Says this text, O, Hey, what's wrong with the South Islands?

929
00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:44,133
Speaker 2: As soon as you're trying to do anything there's already divisions.

930
00:42:44,213 --> 00:42:47,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's already started. So the North Island will join,

931
00:42:47,173 --> 00:42:47,973
Speaker 3: leave the South Island to.

932
00:42:49,093 --> 00:42:53,292
Speaker 2: Auckland can join. We don't need yours. There's this other text,

933
00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:55,693
Speaker 2: So let's try and at least stay together as a

934
00:42:55,733 --> 00:42:57,652
Speaker 2: country on this one.

935
00:42:57,813 --> 00:42:58,013
Speaker 5: Yeah.

936
00:42:59,213 --> 00:43:01,853
Speaker 2: How yes to being Oz's green state if it means

937
00:43:01,893 --> 00:43:03,453
Speaker 2: we collect their amazing super.

938
00:43:03,293 --> 00:43:04,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big one. They do get a very

939
00:43:04,933 --> 00:43:05,573
Speaker 3: generous super.

940
00:43:05,973 --> 00:43:08,253
Speaker 2: Can we jump on the super without contributing?

941
00:43:08,613 --> 00:43:10,413
Speaker 3: I think that's all I need to hear. Actually, Oh,

942
00:43:10,493 --> 00:43:13,013
Speaker 3: e one hundred eighty ten eighty, what's your idea about this?

943
00:43:13,133 --> 00:43:16,693
Speaker 3: Because the invitation was open I believe it was in

944
00:43:16,813 --> 00:43:19,773
Speaker 3: the early nineteen hundreds, and that's never closed. So the

945
00:43:20,533 --> 00:43:21,973
Speaker 3: offer was there, Hey, New Zealand, would you like to

946
00:43:22,013 --> 00:43:24,293
Speaker 3: become part of Australia. At the time we said no,

947
00:43:24,493 --> 00:43:26,893
Speaker 3: but it was never rescinded. So if we were to

948
00:43:26,973 --> 00:43:29,093
Speaker 3: go to Australia and say, hey, you know that offer

949
00:43:29,173 --> 00:43:31,973
Speaker 3: you may just over one hundred years ago still open.

950
00:43:32,093 --> 00:43:34,453
Speaker 3: We've reconsidered and we think it might'd be a good idea.

951
00:43:34,773 --> 00:43:36,973
Speaker 2: Hi, guys know to being seventh state of OZ. There's

952
00:43:37,013 --> 00:43:39,613
Speaker 2: Sony that's text saying this but yes to being the

953
00:43:39,693 --> 00:43:44,333
Speaker 2: fifty first state of the USA. That one's from Mark. Yeah,

954
00:43:44,333 --> 00:43:46,732
Speaker 2: I mean Trump's all about Greenland, but he hasn't made

955
00:43:46,733 --> 00:43:48,733
Speaker 2: any overtoos to US. I don't think we've got the

956
00:43:48,813 --> 00:43:53,933
Speaker 2: strategical We're not strategically important. Yeah enough for Trump to

957
00:43:54,013 --> 00:43:55,973
Speaker 2: try and make us the fifty first state. But I

958
00:43:56,053 --> 00:43:58,533
Speaker 2: got to say, if we were you all blacks might

959
00:43:58,573 --> 00:43:59,732
Speaker 2: make a decent NFL team.

960
00:44:00,173 --> 00:44:02,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true. Oh e one hundred eighty ten eighty

961
00:44:02,813 --> 00:44:05,133
Speaker 3: is the number to call. How does this sound to you?

962
00:44:05,253 --> 00:44:08,252
Speaker 3: Becoming the seventh state of Australia? Has it got mirror

963
00:44:08,773 --> 00:44:09,893
Speaker 3: or do you think it's crazy town?

964
00:44:10,293 --> 00:44:12,533
Speaker 2: We only if we get a state of origin team

965
00:44:12,933 --> 00:44:14,933
Speaker 2: made against mates, stayed against state. Let's go.

966
00:44:15,213 --> 00:44:17,613
Speaker 3: That's a huge one. Yeah, good on your muzz. Keep

967
00:44:17,653 --> 00:44:19,732
Speaker 3: those seas coming through a nine to nine to two

968
00:44:20,133 --> 00:44:22,172
Speaker 3: back very shortly. It is twelve past two.

969
00:44:23,653 --> 00:44:28,453
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

970
00:44:28,053 --> 00:44:31,093
Speaker 4: Call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, zaid.

971
00:44:30,973 --> 00:44:35,453
Speaker 3: Be fourteen past two? Should we become the seventh state

972
00:44:35,573 --> 00:44:39,413
Speaker 3: of Australia. It's been posed by political commentator David Farrer.

973
00:44:39,653 --> 00:44:40,933
Speaker 3: What do you say yes?

974
00:44:41,133 --> 00:44:42,973
Speaker 2: Is the sex to bring on the seventh State of Australia.

975
00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:46,053
Speaker 2: We can then get nuclear power here. That would be

976
00:44:46,093 --> 00:44:48,133
Speaker 2: a game changer because New Zealander is behind the times

977
00:44:48,213 --> 00:44:50,773
Speaker 2: and thinking we will not have enough power to continue

978
00:44:50,853 --> 00:44:52,213
Speaker 2: in the modern world.

979
00:44:52,693 --> 00:44:53,212
Speaker 3: Great point.

980
00:44:53,293 --> 00:44:56,933
Speaker 2: We swapp Chloe for poor Lean's. This is text. I

981
00:44:56,973 --> 00:45:00,253
Speaker 2: don't want the wildlife. No, we wouldn't. We wouldn't just

982
00:45:00,373 --> 00:45:03,733
Speaker 2: import this their iguanas and such.

983
00:45:03,693 --> 00:45:05,293
Speaker 3: That stays on the mainland of Australia.

984
00:45:05,573 --> 00:45:08,732
Speaker 2: Anytime an Australian beast comes to New Zealand to look

985
00:45:08,733 --> 00:45:09,933
Speaker 2: at the wallabes, look at the possums.

986
00:45:09,973 --> 00:45:13,053
Speaker 3: What about Akuala, I'll take a koala. I mean, I'm

987
00:45:13,093 --> 00:45:14,573
Speaker 3: sure they'd do massive damage, but.

988
00:45:14,653 --> 00:45:16,413
Speaker 2: There'll there'd be something that koala's doing. I mean they

989
00:45:16,493 --> 00:45:19,373
Speaker 2: go the riddle with chlamydia climbs aula there.

990
00:45:20,653 --> 00:45:20,853
Speaker 10: Yeah.

991
00:45:21,013 --> 00:45:24,293
Speaker 2: So people say, well, why wouldn't Australia become a part

992
00:45:24,333 --> 00:45:26,573
Speaker 2: of New Zealand. I think it's a numbers game because

993
00:45:26,613 --> 00:45:30,093
Speaker 2: they've got twenty seven million people and we've got five

994
00:45:30,333 --> 00:45:33,813
Speaker 2: So you know, is that what is that eighteen percent?

995
00:45:34,013 --> 00:45:36,253
Speaker 2: So yeah, we've got eighteen we'd be eighteen percent of

996
00:45:36,293 --> 00:45:39,333
Speaker 2: the population. Yeah, what what did the GDP numbers look

997
00:45:39,453 --> 00:45:40,853
Speaker 2: like between Australia and New Zealand.

998
00:45:41,013 --> 00:45:43,493
Speaker 3: So we'll break it down state by states. So New

999
00:45:43,573 --> 00:45:46,732
Speaker 3: Zealand at the moment GDP per year around two hundred

1000
00:45:46,733 --> 00:45:50,373
Speaker 3: and forty billion dollars. New South Wales six hundred billion,

1001
00:45:50,813 --> 00:45:52,733
Speaker 3: so that is two and a half times our GDP.

1002
00:45:52,893 --> 00:45:53,973
Speaker 3: That's just New South Wales.

1003
00:45:54,093 --> 00:45:54,253
Speaker 11: Wow.

1004
00:45:54,693 --> 00:45:58,053
Speaker 3: Victoria four hundred and eighty three billion, still smashing US.

1005
00:45:58,133 --> 00:46:02,013
Speaker 3: Queensland three hundred and sixty one billion, pretty good. Western

1006
00:46:02,053 --> 00:46:05,133
Speaker 3: Australia is about on par with US. They're about two

1007
00:46:05,213 --> 00:46:09,093
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty. South Australia not doing so well one

1008
00:46:09,213 --> 00:46:13,173
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen billion. What about Tazzy thirty five billion?

1009
00:46:13,373 --> 00:46:14,693
Speaker 3: Measly thirty five billion?

1010
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:20,933
Speaker 2: Pathetic? Come on, pathetic tas many would hate it because

1011
00:46:20,933 --> 00:46:22,413
Speaker 2: they would be pushed down the loop. So where would

1012
00:46:22,413 --> 00:46:22,853
Speaker 2: we sit.

1013
00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:26,653
Speaker 3: We were one, two, three, fifth, fifth out of seven.

1014
00:46:27,053 --> 00:46:29,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then but then our GDP would go up

1015
00:46:29,613 --> 00:46:32,213
Speaker 2: because you know, the you know, our ability to do

1016
00:46:32,333 --> 00:46:34,933
Speaker 2: business would go through the roof. If we had that

1017
00:46:35,053 --> 00:46:38,653
Speaker 2: negotiating power of all of Australia plus just that unfitted

1018
00:46:38,693 --> 00:46:40,413
Speaker 2: access to the Australia man We've got pretty good access

1019
00:46:40,413 --> 00:46:43,893
Speaker 2: to Australia market if you're running the the Aussie dollar

1020
00:46:45,333 --> 00:46:48,212
Speaker 2: and having all the Aussie regulations. Yeah, you could see

1021
00:46:48,213 --> 00:46:50,533
Speaker 2: you could see our GDP flying through the roof so

1022
00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:55,613
Speaker 2: and look we could keep our national identity surely trash.

1023
00:46:55,653 --> 00:46:56,212
Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

1024
00:46:57,453 --> 00:46:57,813
Speaker 4: All right?

1025
00:46:57,853 --> 00:47:00,692
Speaker 23: Well, I have kept and escape. A newspaper clipping from

1026
00:47:01,693 --> 00:47:05,293
Speaker 23: March the fourth, two thousand and five, Wow, and ex

1027
00:47:05,373 --> 00:47:08,093
Speaker 23: Prime Minister Bob Hook came to Auckland for the Gateway

1028
00:47:08,133 --> 00:47:11,813
Speaker 23: to Australia conference. I'm not going to read the whole article,

1029
00:47:12,453 --> 00:47:14,893
Speaker 23: but Greg knew that owned Pumpkin Patch at the time.

1030
00:47:15,533 --> 00:47:19,533
Speaker 23: It's in this article written by Garthorne. New Zealander was

1031
00:47:19,653 --> 00:47:22,653
Speaker 23: now effectively another state of Australia, whether it liked it

1032
00:47:22,773 --> 00:47:22,973
Speaker 23: or not.

1033
00:47:24,573 --> 00:47:28,133
Speaker 2: So did Bob Hawk say that or no? Greg Newer

1034
00:47:29,013 --> 00:47:30,293
Speaker 2: right right, Yeah, it will be quite a lot for

1035
00:47:30,333 --> 00:47:31,013
Speaker 2: Bob Hawk to say.

1036
00:47:31,093 --> 00:47:32,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what did he base that on?

1037
00:47:34,653 --> 00:47:36,653
Speaker 23: When we had to stop our head officers going to

1038
00:47:37,613 --> 00:47:40,293
Speaker 23: going to Australia. I think Michael Hill went to Australia.

1039
00:47:40,493 --> 00:47:43,533
Speaker 23: I think his head offices are in Australia. But there

1040
00:47:43,613 --> 00:47:46,973
Speaker 23: was also another guy, Barry Smith, and he wrote the

1041
00:47:47,013 --> 00:47:51,573
Speaker 23: book Warning Final Warning on PostScript and he's not alive now,

1042
00:47:51,613 --> 00:47:54,653
Speaker 23: but I think his children would be. And he said

1043
00:47:54,973 --> 00:47:57,453
Speaker 23: that the States of Australia meet once or twice a

1044
00:47:57,573 --> 00:47:59,693
Speaker 23: year and there's a tab where they sit at and

1045
00:47:59,733 --> 00:48:01,453
Speaker 23: there's a seat that nobody sits in. And he said

1046
00:48:01,493 --> 00:48:04,293
Speaker 23: it's for the State of New Zealand. Now that was

1047
00:48:04,333 --> 00:48:07,973
Speaker 23: about thirty years ago. Yeah, so there is a born

1048
00:48:08,013 --> 00:48:10,373
Speaker 23: again He was a born again Christians that was bothed

1049
00:48:10,373 --> 00:48:11,373
Speaker 23: on Bible prophecy.

1050
00:48:11,853 --> 00:48:13,053
Speaker 2: So there's a seed at the table.

1051
00:48:13,333 --> 00:48:15,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we want it seen to the State of

1052
00:48:16,053 --> 00:48:17,493
Speaker 3: New Zealand's they're ready waiting.

1053
00:48:17,893 --> 00:48:19,133
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, a long time.

1054
00:48:19,893 --> 00:48:21,613
Speaker 3: Would you like that idea, Trush, if we were to

1055
00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:24,493
Speaker 3: become the seventh state of Australia, would that's right with you?

1056
00:48:25,373 --> 00:48:27,533
Speaker 23: Well, apparently we need ten million people here to make

1057
00:48:27,573 --> 00:48:29,693
Speaker 23: this place farable, so I think we're going to have

1058
00:48:29,813 --> 00:48:34,133
Speaker 23: to I don't know if the Marys would want that.

1059
00:48:34,733 --> 00:48:37,413
Speaker 23: They would probably have a big say in this. Yeah,

1060
00:48:37,733 --> 00:48:38,893
Speaker 23: I think that has to be looked at.

1061
00:48:39,093 --> 00:48:41,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you call Trush Bob Hawk, Now

1062
00:48:42,733 --> 00:48:44,493
Speaker 2: have you ever seen you know, if you put a

1063
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:49,133
Speaker 2: beer in front of Bob Hawk ex Australian prime minister back.

1064
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:49,413
Speaker 8: In the day.

1065
00:48:49,493 --> 00:48:51,053
Speaker 2: He would absolutely destroy it.

1066
00:48:51,453 --> 00:48:52,333
Speaker 3: I've seen that video.

1067
00:48:52,453 --> 00:48:56,172
Speaker 2: I mean she might have had a record these videos everywhere. Yeah,

1068
00:48:56,653 --> 00:48:58,933
Speaker 2: he could scull a beer and I don't know if

1069
00:48:58,973 --> 00:49:00,773
Speaker 2: that was a pre wrick for being prime minister back

1070
00:49:00,813 --> 00:49:04,613
Speaker 2: in the day, but even just so. He died in

1071
00:49:04,693 --> 00:49:08,773
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and the last video of him a beer

1072
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:11,253
Speaker 2: I think was that the MCGA down to beer and

1073
00:49:11,333 --> 00:49:13,212
Speaker 2: that was only about six months before he died.

1074
00:49:13,293 --> 00:49:17,453
Speaker 3: He destroyed a pint and seconds that would go down

1075
00:49:17,493 --> 00:49:18,093
Speaker 3: well with the voters.

1076
00:49:18,133 --> 00:49:19,573
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what killed him. Might mean what

1077
00:49:19,653 --> 00:49:22,133
Speaker 2: killed him, No, I think he's.

1078
00:49:21,453 --> 00:49:23,133
Speaker 3: Just watching him now, ooh, look at him.

1079
00:49:23,173 --> 00:49:23,213
Speaker 19: Go.

1080
00:49:24,013 --> 00:49:25,893
Speaker 2: So he was eighty eight when he was just destroying

1081
00:49:25,973 --> 00:49:29,653
Speaker 2: that pint like a you know, a Tiger university student.

1082
00:49:30,373 --> 00:49:32,812
Speaker 3: No wonder he became prime minister. Oh eight hundred eighty

1083
00:49:32,893 --> 00:49:34,333
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call.

1084
00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:38,973
Speaker 2: Becoming Australian losing our culture, identity and integrity, intelligence, sanity.

1085
00:49:39,093 --> 00:49:43,373
Speaker 2: Yeah nah, but I think the Queensland is, for example,

1086
00:49:43,453 --> 00:49:45,933
Speaker 2: would say that they keep a really strong identity that's

1087
00:49:45,973 --> 00:49:47,213
Speaker 2: different from from Australia.

1088
00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:47,493
Speaker 12: Yep.

1089
00:49:47,653 --> 00:49:54,172
Speaker 2: And you know the way Malbonians talk about Malbonian Melbonians

1090
00:49:54,973 --> 00:49:59,293
Speaker 2: against Sydney Sydney Heights. Is that what they are? Melboonians

1091
00:49:59,333 --> 00:49:59,933
Speaker 2: and Sydney.

1092
00:49:59,813 --> 00:50:02,573
Speaker 3: Ights Sydney Heights. I think you're right Malbonians.

1093
00:50:03,093 --> 00:50:03,413
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1094
00:50:03,693 --> 00:50:05,813
Speaker 2: Someone tell me, will tell me. I wanted to not

1095
00:50:05,933 --> 00:50:07,973
Speaker 2: someone will tell me on nine two nine two now

1096
00:50:08,053 --> 00:50:11,133
Speaker 2: boom and probably more likely to be Melbournians than Melbournians.

1097
00:50:11,493 --> 00:50:16,453
Speaker 2: Melbournians anyway. They they feel more warmly to New Zealand

1098
00:50:16,453 --> 00:50:18,053
Speaker 2: than they do to each other. Yeah, I mean the

1099
00:50:18,133 --> 00:50:22,613
Speaker 2: rivalry between those between Victoria and New South Wales. I

1100
00:50:22,693 --> 00:50:25,853
Speaker 2: mean right through COVID. They were just calling Victoria Victoria,

1101
00:50:25,853 --> 00:50:26,253
Speaker 2: weren't they.

1102
00:50:26,373 --> 00:50:28,973
Speaker 3: Yeah they were. And poor old Tazzy, I mean Tazzy

1103
00:50:29,093 --> 00:50:31,333
Speaker 3: is just the whipping boy for the whole of Australia.

1104
00:50:31,493 --> 00:50:34,773
Speaker 2: Our map of Tazzy comments Yeah, yeah.

1105
00:50:34,933 --> 00:50:37,413
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1106
00:50:37,613 --> 00:50:39,973
Speaker 3: Could this be a reality or would it be a

1107
00:50:40,013 --> 00:50:42,533
Speaker 3: good idea if we were to join Australia and become

1108
00:50:42,573 --> 00:50:44,533
Speaker 3: the come the seventh State. Love to get your thoughts

1109
00:50:44,573 --> 00:50:46,373
Speaker 3: nine two nine two is the text as well. It

1110
00:50:46,573 --> 00:50:47,893
Speaker 3: is twenty one past two.

1111
00:50:48,213 --> 00:50:50,133
Speaker 2: Never happen as the Aussies don't want their five oh

1112
00:50:50,173 --> 00:50:50,613
Speaker 2: ones back.

1113
00:50:56,493 --> 00:50:59,853
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1114
00:50:59,933 --> 00:51:01,853
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk, said the.

1115
00:51:02,133 --> 00:51:04,853
Speaker 3: Twenty three past too. So there's an argument being made

1116
00:51:04,853 --> 00:51:06,973
Speaker 3: that we should join forces with Australia and become the

1117
00:51:07,053 --> 00:51:09,133
Speaker 3: seventh States. What are you say, Oh, eight hundred and

1118
00:51:09,173 --> 00:51:11,013
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1119
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:15,613
Speaker 2: So and look, just on a side topic. It is Melbournians,

1120
00:51:15,653 --> 00:51:21,373
Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah, Melburnians, Melburnians, Alburnians, Melburnians, Okay, not Melbournians,

1121
00:51:21,453 --> 00:51:25,692
Speaker 2: not Melbournians. And it's Sydney Heights or Sydney Sydney Iights

1122
00:51:25,813 --> 00:51:28,613
Speaker 2: or Sydney Ciders. It's how do you decide that? So

1123
00:51:28,933 --> 00:51:32,853
Speaker 2: it's Auckland, Ur's Valentonians, yep, Dunedinites.

1124
00:51:34,013 --> 00:51:37,573
Speaker 3: What are christ Church christ Churchians? Are they christ Chichiens

1125
00:51:37,653 --> 00:51:44,573
Speaker 3: or Cantabs Contabrians? But yeah, why because that's our region, Hamiltonians, Hamiltonians, Nelsonians.

1126
00:51:45,013 --> 00:51:48,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, So who decides that? Just they seem to be

1127
00:51:49,413 --> 00:51:52,973
Speaker 2: what's it? Is it in the Kargagulian, in the Kogilian.

1128
00:51:52,893 --> 00:51:54,493
Speaker 3: It's just how it rolls off the tongue though, isn't it.

1129
00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:56,933
Speaker 3: So Nolsonian is nice and easy. If you tried to

1130
00:51:56,973 --> 00:51:59,893
Speaker 3: put an e in in the end of Dunedan Dandian,

1131
00:52:00,373 --> 00:52:03,772
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Dunedian totrong Ian torong Ian. Yep, it rolls

1132
00:52:03,813 --> 00:52:06,973
Speaker 3: off the tomb yeah, Northlander.

1133
00:52:08,333 --> 00:52:10,013
Speaker 2: But if this is an interesting one, we'd get all

1134
00:52:10,053 --> 00:52:12,413
Speaker 2: our banks back. So what we did is and part

1135
00:52:12,453 --> 00:52:15,613
Speaker 2: of the reason why we have such interesting debt problems

1136
00:52:15,653 --> 00:52:17,853
Speaker 2: in this country is because we have we don't own

1137
00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:20,093
Speaker 2: our own banks, so our private debt is owned by

1138
00:52:20,133 --> 00:52:22,293
Speaker 2: other countries. Yes, so you know, you can look at

1139
00:52:22,333 --> 00:52:24,573
Speaker 2: the state of the Japanese economy, but they own their banks.

1140
00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:26,573
Speaker 2: So you know, you look at how much money they

1141
00:52:26,653 --> 00:52:29,013
Speaker 2: owe globally, but they own their banks. Yeah, we don't

1142
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:30,653
Speaker 2: own our banks. The Australians own our banks.

1143
00:52:30,733 --> 00:52:31,533
Speaker 3: That is very truth.

1144
00:52:31,973 --> 00:52:34,013
Speaker 2: So so we'd get them back.

1145
00:52:34,653 --> 00:52:36,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we get the same deal with the Aussies get,

1146
00:52:36,813 --> 00:52:37,853
Speaker 3: which is a better deal than us.

1147
00:52:37,933 --> 00:52:39,733
Speaker 2: So we'd be like, all the money's not going to

1148
00:52:39,773 --> 00:52:42,413
Speaker 2: Australia anymore, it's going to whatever we'd be called. Yeah,

1149
00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:43,773
Speaker 2: well Australia.

1150
00:52:43,853 --> 00:52:46,213
Speaker 3: Would a still be called a in z. They just

1151
00:52:46,293 --> 00:52:48,573
Speaker 3: have to change it to a because n Z would

1152
00:52:48,613 --> 00:52:52,333
Speaker 3: just be a seventh state maybe Yeah, the Australian Bank

1153
00:52:52,373 --> 00:52:53,613
Speaker 3: plus the state of New Zealand.

1154
00:52:53,893 --> 00:52:56,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, as Ossie's national color is yellow, who wants to

1155
00:52:56,973 --> 00:52:59,653
Speaker 2: be yellow? Yuck? And you all want to sound like

1156
00:52:59,693 --> 00:53:02,693
Speaker 2: an oker and go it's from Jay. We wouln't have

1157
00:53:02,733 --> 00:53:05,173
Speaker 2: to change our accents. I mean the accent between Queensland

1158
00:53:05,253 --> 00:53:08,333
Speaker 2: and you know, New South.

1159
00:53:08,133 --> 00:53:11,013
Speaker 3: Wales US quite different, radically different. And we still keep

1160
00:53:11,013 --> 00:53:12,773
Speaker 3: our flag. All the states have their own flags, We'll

1161
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:14,693
Speaker 3: still keep our national anthom from.

1162
00:53:14,613 --> 00:53:18,172
Speaker 2: Someone from Gores a Gourian, Helen, Welcome to the show.

1163
00:53:18,453 --> 00:53:21,053
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, hi, yes, Look, I don't know whether this

1164
00:53:21,213 --> 00:53:22,973
Speaker 9: is a good idea or not. I'm sure there are

1165
00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:26,373
Speaker 9: lots of good things about it, but here are some

1166
00:53:27,013 --> 00:53:30,533
Speaker 9: possible issues. Now. Supposing there's a war that Australia wants

1167
00:53:30,573 --> 00:53:34,493
Speaker 9: to join in and introduce conscription but New Zealand doesn't

1168
00:53:34,493 --> 00:53:38,733
Speaker 9: want far of it. And then there's a nuclear pre

1169
00:53:39,853 --> 00:53:43,893
Speaker 9: status issue or what do you call it? Then yeah,

1170
00:53:44,013 --> 00:53:48,573
Speaker 9: and then there's there's a mining issues. Would New Zealand

1171
00:53:48,653 --> 00:53:55,733
Speaker 9: have control over you know, O mining because Australia has

1172
00:53:55,773 --> 00:53:59,133
Speaker 9: been made a real mess of what's happened there with.

1173
00:53:59,173 --> 00:54:02,013
Speaker 2: The mining, and what's happened in Australia with the mining.

1174
00:54:02,093 --> 00:54:06,133
Speaker 2: What's what's the mess that's happened Alan, Well, you.

1175
00:54:06,253 --> 00:54:10,293
Speaker 9: Might actually like to look up within the which is

1176
00:54:11,333 --> 00:54:16,573
Speaker 9: the worst environmental disaster in the Southern Hemisphere waubt in

1177
00:54:16,893 --> 00:54:23,693
Speaker 9: Double n to the asbestos Minehestos. Have a look at that.

1178
00:54:23,933 --> 00:54:26,853
Speaker 9: And then there's the Treaty of White Tangy Issues and

1179
00:54:26,973 --> 00:54:27,693
Speaker 9: land claims.

1180
00:54:28,453 --> 00:54:30,292
Speaker 2: Well, I guess that would just be between the State

1181
00:54:30,333 --> 00:54:32,533
Speaker 2: of New Zealand because we currently only have one state

1182
00:54:32,653 --> 00:54:34,853
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, which is the State of New Zealand.

1183
00:54:34,893 --> 00:54:37,893
Speaker 2: But Australia has seven states, so we would have our

1184
00:54:37,973 --> 00:54:41,653
Speaker 2: own states and then there would be whatever, some certain

1185
00:54:41,693 --> 00:54:45,013
Speaker 2: things would just be you know, with the government we'd

1186
00:54:45,053 --> 00:54:45,933
Speaker 2: have for New Zealand.

1187
00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:49,253
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know, these are just something sorry.

1188
00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:52,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you do you think do you think the

1189
00:54:52,893 --> 00:54:57,093
Speaker 2: New Zealand nuclear free stance is still an important one

1190
00:54:57,173 --> 00:54:59,292
Speaker 2: in two thousand and twenty six.

1191
00:55:00,813 --> 00:55:02,933
Speaker 9: Well, look, look, I'm not an expert on any of

1192
00:55:03,013 --> 00:55:08,413
Speaker 9: these things, but the one that came to mind, it

1193
00:55:08,933 --> 00:55:12,373
Speaker 9: was really you know, top of my mind was supposing

1194
00:55:12,453 --> 00:55:15,253
Speaker 9: there was a war or some alliance that Australia wanted

1195
00:55:15,293 --> 00:55:18,773
Speaker 9: to join in with them, and then it was a conscription.

1196
00:55:19,133 --> 00:55:20,293
Speaker 9: Where would we begin.

1197
00:55:20,413 --> 00:55:22,773
Speaker 2: Going off to a foreign land to fight for Australia

1198
00:55:23,253 --> 00:55:24,373
Speaker 2: might be a weird vibe for some.

1199
00:55:24,733 --> 00:55:26,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be a step too far for a

1200
00:55:26,173 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 3: lot of people out there.

1201
00:55:27,173 --> 00:55:30,413
Speaker 2: Mind you, there's not too many wars that Australia gets

1202
00:55:30,453 --> 00:55:33,853
Speaker 2: into that we don't happily get involved in. We tend

1203
00:55:33,973 --> 00:55:37,692
Speaker 2: to be quite closely aligned in those those regions.

1204
00:55:37,413 --> 00:55:37,693
Speaker 10: Don't we.

1205
00:55:37,893 --> 00:55:41,013
Speaker 3: I think if they do go to war, we follow.

1206
00:55:41,133 --> 00:55:43,533
Speaker 3: I don't think there's ever been a time Australia's decided

1207
00:55:43,573 --> 00:55:45,493
Speaker 3: we're going to declare war on someone that we didn't

1208
00:55:45,533 --> 00:55:46,453
Speaker 3: do it too well.

1209
00:55:47,173 --> 00:55:49,493
Speaker 2: And the thing is that if someone wants to go

1210
00:55:49,533 --> 00:55:51,933
Speaker 2: to war with us, which would be really greater at

1211
00:55:51,933 --> 00:55:54,173
Speaker 2: security guarantees, would probably be the reason, one of the

1212
00:55:54,213 --> 00:55:56,093
Speaker 2: main reasons we'd want to do it, Because if we

1213
00:55:56,173 --> 00:55:59,573
Speaker 2: were suddenly part of Australia, and I don't know, Fiji

1214
00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:05,573
Speaker 2: invades Fiji, I've got a reasonly big ARMI do they Yeah, Fiji, Yeah,

1215
00:56:05,733 --> 00:56:09,613
Speaker 2: they do Fiji. I'm not saying that, I'm just I've

1216
00:56:09,613 --> 00:56:12,613
Speaker 2: just grabbed a country. Then if we're part of Australia.

1217
00:56:12,613 --> 00:56:13,533
Speaker 2: Australia has to defend us.

1218
00:56:13,573 --> 00:56:15,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got some nice frigates, but right now.

1219
00:56:15,253 --> 00:56:18,773
Speaker 2: They're going they seem to slag us a lot, and

1220
00:56:18,773 --> 00:56:20,613
Speaker 2: they're still going on about the under umballs. So maybe

1221
00:56:20,613 --> 00:56:22,812
Speaker 2: we'll maybe we'll just let Fiji take him.

1222
00:56:23,333 --> 00:56:25,893
Speaker 3: Taking your calls on one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1223
00:56:26,053 --> 00:56:27,773
Speaker 3: What do you reckon about this idea of becoming the

1224
00:56:27,813 --> 00:56:31,053
Speaker 3: seventh state of Australia. Does it make some sense or

1225
00:56:31,173 --> 00:56:33,733
Speaker 3: is it crazy talk? Nine to ninety two is the

1226
00:56:33,813 --> 00:56:34,813
Speaker 3: text number as well.

1227
00:56:35,053 --> 00:56:37,533
Speaker 2: I think it both makes sense and is also crazy talk.

1228
00:56:37,613 --> 00:56:39,293
Speaker 3: That's that, Yeah, that's the stuff we love. It is

1229
00:56:39,453 --> 00:56:41,533
Speaker 3: twenty nine pass two headlines coming.

1230
00:56:41,413 --> 00:56:45,213
Speaker 4: Up, New's talk said be headlines with.

1231
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1234
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Speaker 18: Hamilton officers responded to reports of a vehicle driving erratically,

1235
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Speaker 18: serious incidents Pelisa. The man presented a shotgun before fired

1237
00:57:08,973 --> 00:57:13,493
Speaker 18: two shots. The CEO of Wellington Water has apologized for

1238
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1239
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Speaker 18: to flood into local beaches. The mower Point treatment plant

1240
00:57:21,973 --> 00:57:24,853
Speaker 18: was flooded following heavy rain, forcing it to shut down.

1241
00:57:25,293 --> 00:57:28,213
Speaker 18: Wellingtonians are being told to stay out of the water.

1242
00:57:29,413 --> 00:57:31,893
Speaker 18: A crist to urge hillside has given way in Sumner,

1243
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Speaker 18: forcing the closure of main road near Clifton. Auckland and

1244
00:57:36,413 --> 00:57:39,613
Speaker 18: Wellington are bearing the brunt of the latest rise in unemployment.

1245
00:57:40,053 --> 00:57:43,213
Speaker 18: Unemployments reached five point four percent in the December quarter.

1246
00:57:43,693 --> 00:57:47,293
Speaker 18: Auckland's unemployment rates it's a six point four percent that's

1247
00:57:47,373 --> 00:57:52,053
Speaker 18: far higher than any other region. TV Boss facing thirty

1248
00:57:52,133 --> 00:57:56,373
Speaker 18: three fraud and forgery charges involving fourteen and a half

1249
00:57:56,453 --> 00:57:58,933
Speaker 18: million dollars of public and private money.

1250
00:57:59,413 --> 00:58:01,773
Speaker 3: You can find out more at ensid Herald Premium.

1251
00:58:02,413 --> 00:58:04,333
Speaker 2: Back to matt Eath and Tyner Adams.

1252
00:58:04,093 --> 00:58:06,613
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Leane, Sir. We've asked the

1253
00:58:06,733 --> 00:58:10,173
Speaker 3: question should New Zealand form unite with Australia become the

1254
00:58:10,373 --> 00:58:14,533
Speaker 3: seventh state that's been proposed by political commentator David Farrer.

1255
00:58:14,813 --> 00:58:17,933
Speaker 3: What do you reckon is a good idea If we joined.

1256
00:58:17,693 --> 00:58:19,213
Speaker 2: Australia, that would be the end of the All Blacks.

1257
00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:22,373
Speaker 2: But at least the Pavlova argment would be over from Steve.

1258
00:58:22,893 --> 00:58:23,133
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1259
00:58:23,293 --> 00:58:25,053
Speaker 2: But on the case of the All Blacks, so someone

1260
00:58:25,813 --> 00:58:27,973
Speaker 2: someone else's sticks. I was going to say, what about

1261
00:58:28,013 --> 00:58:29,573
Speaker 2: the All Blacks? We will lose them, but then I

1262
00:58:29,613 --> 00:58:32,253
Speaker 2: remembered Ray's it already destroyed us, So sign me up.

1263
00:58:32,693 --> 00:58:35,813
Speaker 2: Put another prawn in my budgy smuggler. I don't think

1264
00:58:35,853 --> 00:58:39,173
Speaker 2: that's the same. Put another brawn in my budgy smuggler.

1265
00:58:39,213 --> 00:58:40,973
Speaker 3: I'm picture in there. If you need a prawn down there,

1266
00:58:41,413 --> 00:58:42,373
Speaker 3: that's not good luck to you.

1267
00:58:42,573 --> 00:58:47,093
Speaker 2: It's not the same, Janet, that's not the same.

1268
00:58:49,373 --> 00:58:52,013
Speaker 13: I'm an Australian that's moved to New Zealand and I

1269
00:58:52,133 --> 00:58:54,333
Speaker 13: definitely don't want to become an Australian again.

1270
00:58:54,533 --> 00:58:55,653
Speaker 2: Hell are you been here, Janet?

1271
00:58:57,813 --> 00:58:59,893
Speaker 13: Two thousand and five, nearly twenty years?

1272
00:59:00,053 --> 00:59:02,213
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and what part of Australia did you move here?

1273
00:59:02,253 --> 00:59:04,613
Speaker 3: From Melbourne?

1274
00:59:07,213 --> 00:59:11,133
Speaker 13: The thing that I've just been over for Christmas as well,

1275
00:59:11,453 --> 00:59:15,333
Speaker 13: and one of the things that I think a lot

1276
00:59:15,373 --> 00:59:19,013
Speaker 13: of people forget is that they do they do things

1277
00:59:19,053 --> 00:59:23,173
Speaker 13: a lot differently at the government level over there, so

1278
00:59:24,613 --> 00:59:29,653
Speaker 13: they tend like they're talking about super before and it's

1279
00:59:29,693 --> 00:59:32,453
Speaker 13: all right for the employers and everybody to give you super.

1280
00:59:32,533 --> 00:59:35,133
Speaker 13: But if you retire with too much super, you don't

1281
00:59:35,173 --> 00:59:38,973
Speaker 13: get any pension or any share of the pension and

1282
00:59:39,093 --> 00:59:42,613
Speaker 13: things like that. It's all means tested. So there's a

1283
00:59:42,693 --> 00:59:46,413
Speaker 13: lot of you know, little bits and pieces that make

1284
00:59:46,533 --> 00:59:47,733
Speaker 13: it not that flash.

1285
00:59:47,813 --> 00:59:51,053
Speaker 2: I think what made you move to New Zealand because

1286
00:59:51,173 --> 00:59:54,173
Speaker 2: what I noticed is there's not actually a lot of Australians.

1287
00:59:54,253 --> 00:59:56,813
Speaker 2: That there are some, but there's not a lot of

1288
00:59:56,813 --> 01:00:01,733
Speaker 2: Australians choose to move to New Zealand, you know, comparatively.

1289
01:00:01,773 --> 01:00:04,053
Speaker 2: I mean, so many New Zealanders moved to Australia, but

1290
01:00:04,413 --> 01:00:06,373
Speaker 2: not a lot of Australians move here. So what brought

1291
01:00:06,373 --> 01:00:07,173
Speaker 2: you over here? Janet?

1292
01:00:08,733 --> 01:00:12,293
Speaker 13: Well, I had family. I had my brother that married

1293
01:00:12,973 --> 01:00:15,973
Speaker 13: a k girl and he was in the army here.

1294
01:00:17,133 --> 01:00:21,893
Speaker 13: But I for me, it was I was just really

1295
01:00:22,173 --> 01:00:23,133
Speaker 13: sick and tired of.

1296
01:00:26,333 --> 01:00:26,933
Speaker 21: The lack of.

1297
01:00:29,333 --> 01:00:33,733
Speaker 13: What's the term that the lack of the way females

1298
01:00:33,733 --> 01:00:36,493
Speaker 13: were treated, Sorry, I should say the bad way females

1299
01:00:36,493 --> 01:00:36,973
Speaker 13: were treated.

1300
01:00:37,373 --> 01:00:41,693
Speaker 2: So this the misogyny in Australia, yes, right.

1301
01:00:41,813 --> 01:00:45,773
Speaker 13: And I mean and it's sometimes at government level. Two

1302
01:00:46,613 --> 01:00:50,613
Speaker 13: right now, you know there's a lot of underlying things

1303
01:00:50,773 --> 01:00:54,053
Speaker 13: like that, Like I was over at Christmas and the

1304
01:00:54,133 --> 01:00:56,773
Speaker 13: amount of people that were complaining about the fact that

1305
01:00:56,933 --> 01:00:58,813
Speaker 13: the Aborigines were finally getting.

1306
01:00:58,533 --> 01:01:05,013
Speaker 2: A voice, right, so you know liberal, you think he's

1307
01:01:05,013 --> 01:01:05,813
Speaker 2: feeling more liberal?

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01:01:07,093 --> 01:01:07,213
Speaker 15: Oh?

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01:01:07,373 --> 01:01:11,613
Speaker 13: Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, there's still a lot. There's still a

1310
01:01:11,693 --> 01:01:13,293
Speaker 13: lot of underlying.

1311
01:01:16,053 --> 01:01:16,253
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1312
01:01:18,053 --> 01:01:20,053
Speaker 10: And you find when you're in Australia.

1313
01:01:20,133 --> 01:01:23,133
Speaker 2: When you move to another country, though, do you know,

1314
01:01:23,173 --> 01:01:26,293
Speaker 2: I've heard this a lot, you kind of look at

1315
01:01:26,293 --> 01:01:29,413
Speaker 2: the country and that you've moved to in a more

1316
01:01:29,453 --> 01:01:32,013
Speaker 2: positive light than you do from the country you've been in,

1317
01:01:32,053 --> 01:01:34,173
Speaker 2: because it's not really your problems, if you do you

1318
01:01:34,213 --> 01:01:35,653
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I've heard this from people that

1319
01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:38,013
Speaker 2: have moved to other countries. They go, I can relax

1320
01:01:38,093 --> 01:01:42,293
Speaker 2: a bit because because the problems aren't my problems, you know,

1321
01:01:42,373 --> 01:01:45,453
Speaker 2: I'm not responsible for them. So the new country seems

1322
01:01:45,733 --> 01:01:48,053
Speaker 2: is kind of relaxing in a way, to just be

1323
01:01:48,213 --> 01:01:50,013
Speaker 2: part of a new country because you can, you know,

1324
01:01:50,933 --> 01:01:52,253
Speaker 2: forge a new identity and such.

1325
01:01:53,893 --> 01:01:56,413
Speaker 13: Oh it is and it's really good to come to

1326
01:01:56,533 --> 01:01:59,453
Speaker 13: New Zealand because there is a lot that's very similar

1327
01:01:59,533 --> 01:02:03,933
Speaker 13: to Australia in terms of your shopping experience, and you know,

1328
01:02:04,173 --> 01:02:07,973
Speaker 13: so it's very easy to move here. But after twenty

1329
01:02:08,093 --> 01:02:10,133
Speaker 13: years you do end up with opinions.

1330
01:02:10,893 --> 01:02:12,053
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I bet we all do.

1331
01:02:12,253 --> 01:02:14,733
Speaker 2: Get on your Janet. She was talking about misogyny. What

1332
01:02:14,853 --> 01:02:17,373
Speaker 2: about this, This is the opposite of it. Australian guys

1333
01:02:17,533 --> 01:02:22,213
Speaker 2: are hotter than you. Slack Kiwi males, gyms do exist.

1334
01:02:24,493 --> 01:02:25,853
Speaker 2: We are a nation of flabby men.

1335
01:02:26,013 --> 01:02:27,733
Speaker 3: I feel attacked. I feel that was personal.

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01:02:28,093 --> 01:02:30,333
Speaker 2: I do feel when I go to Australia, and maybe

1337
01:02:30,373 --> 01:02:34,253
Speaker 2: that's because I tend to go to Sydney and I

1338
01:02:34,293 --> 01:02:38,133
Speaker 2: imagine the best looking people of all of Australia flow

1339
01:02:38,213 --> 01:02:39,773
Speaker 2: into Sydney. Yeah, it seems to be a lot of

1340
01:02:39,773 --> 01:02:40,453
Speaker 2: good looking people.

1341
01:02:40,653 --> 01:02:41,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, some beautiful people.

1342
01:02:42,053 --> 01:02:43,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the.

1343
01:02:45,093 --> 01:02:46,973
Speaker 3: When you have a city like that and all the

1344
01:02:47,013 --> 01:02:49,453
Speaker 3: beautiful people decide to come to the likes of Sydney.

1345
01:02:49,733 --> 01:02:52,173
Speaker 3: Then everyone has to up these standards that you can't

1346
01:02:52,293 --> 01:02:55,333
Speaker 3: be one of the slovenly New Zealanders. You've got to

1347
01:02:55,333 --> 01:02:56,093
Speaker 3: really up your game.

1348
01:02:56,493 --> 01:02:56,693
Speaker 5: You know.

1349
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:58,973
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a contagion. If there's beautiful people,

1350
01:02:59,013 --> 01:03:00,133
Speaker 3: more beautiful people come.

1351
01:03:00,293 --> 01:03:01,413
Speaker 2: Right And is that why you're getting a bit of

1352
01:03:01,453 --> 01:03:02,533
Speaker 2: looking Since you've started working with me.

1353
01:03:02,573 --> 01:03:06,613
Speaker 3: That's why I got kicked out of Crosses Doug, how

1354
01:03:06,693 --> 01:03:07,133
Speaker 3: are you mate?

1355
01:03:08,373 --> 01:03:08,533
Speaker 12: Good?

1356
01:03:08,653 --> 01:03:13,133
Speaker 10: Good lads. Some of the things that we would lose

1357
01:03:13,213 --> 01:03:16,453
Speaker 10: our Reserve Bank because there can only be one reserve

1358
01:03:16,533 --> 01:03:24,133
Speaker 10: bank and for one country. Our prime Minister would become

1359
01:03:24,533 --> 01:03:33,133
Speaker 10: Premiere of New Zealand. There would be no Withston Peters,

1360
01:03:33,173 --> 01:03:38,493
Speaker 10: who's as you know, foreign minister. That would disappear. Yeah,

1361
01:03:39,613 --> 01:03:47,613
Speaker 10: and we would have some sort of federal elections which

1362
01:03:47,813 --> 01:03:52,053
Speaker 10: may be on the Australian way of voting. I really

1363
01:03:52,173 --> 01:03:56,173
Speaker 10: don't know how that would work. As you know right now,

1364
01:03:56,293 --> 01:04:02,093
Speaker 10: Ossie's got a big labor majority over there, and if

1365
01:04:02,133 --> 01:04:07,813
Speaker 10: we went tomorrow I presume well, no, it wouldn't be

1366
01:04:07,933 --> 01:04:15,653
Speaker 10: but would be run by labor government from Canberra. Obviously,

1367
01:04:16,293 --> 01:04:18,413
Speaker 10: if we're in the voting, we would have to senend

1368
01:04:18,493 --> 01:04:24,773
Speaker 10: some people to the Fed to Canberra to represent our state.

1369
01:04:26,093 --> 01:04:28,493
Speaker 2: But yeah, it would be. It would be a disaster

1370
01:04:28,573 --> 01:04:32,533
Speaker 2: for Wellington, wouldn't it, Like oh the big loser and

1371
01:04:32,573 --> 01:04:35,773
Speaker 2: all this would be or you know, in New Zealand's

1372
01:04:35,773 --> 01:04:38,053
Speaker 2: central government moving out of Wellington to Canberra.

1373
01:04:38,213 --> 01:04:39,093
Speaker 3: What do you do with the Beehi?

1374
01:04:40,373 --> 01:04:42,613
Speaker 10: Well, I would I would say that it still could

1375
01:04:42,653 --> 01:04:45,093
Speaker 10: be used because it would be the it would be

1376
01:04:45,213 --> 01:04:46,493
Speaker 10: the state parliament.

1377
01:04:46,693 --> 01:04:55,253
Speaker 2: Yes, So in Australia, you know, the states cover you know, infrastructure, utilities, railways, roads, water, electricity,

1378
01:04:55,333 --> 01:04:58,453
Speaker 2: public transport, all that kind of stuff. Hospitals, schools, police.

1379
01:05:00,133 --> 01:05:01,853
Speaker 2: They do do a lot of stuff, don't they. I

1380
01:05:01,933 --> 01:05:04,133
Speaker 2: mean a lot of the every day major stuff they

1381
01:05:04,213 --> 01:05:07,573
Speaker 2: do the state governments take charge of. So yeah, maybe

1382
01:05:07,613 --> 01:05:08,333
Speaker 2: maybe Wellington would.

1383
01:05:09,853 --> 01:05:12,453
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that was because somewhere along the line

1384
01:05:12,453 --> 01:05:15,653
Speaker 10: you'd have to have a place that you would put

1385
01:05:15,733 --> 01:05:19,853
Speaker 10: your state government in and you've got one engine all

1386
01:05:19,933 --> 01:05:25,413
Speaker 10: set up. But there's things like none of our employers

1387
01:05:26,093 --> 01:05:28,933
Speaker 10: in this country would want to pay twelve percent on

1388
01:05:29,253 --> 01:05:34,053
Speaker 10: af their employees like the Aussie employers do either, so

1389
01:05:34,373 --> 01:05:36,053
Speaker 10: they'd be a hell of us scream about that.

1390
01:05:36,573 --> 01:05:38,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think that whole that

1391
01:05:38,253 --> 01:05:42,013
Speaker 2: whole super thing and key we savor and you know,

1392
01:05:42,733 --> 01:05:45,413
Speaker 2: our retirement stuff. That'll be hard to mess because we're

1393
01:05:45,413 --> 01:05:47,533
Speaker 2: still coming in this eighteen percent of the population. We'll

1394
01:05:47,533 --> 01:05:51,613
Speaker 2: be eighteen percent that aren't nearly as prepared for retirement.

1395
01:05:51,613 --> 01:05:54,213
Speaker 2: We're a long way there as the twenty seven million

1396
01:05:54,293 --> 01:05:54,653
Speaker 2: over there.

1397
01:05:55,693 --> 01:05:59,293
Speaker 10: That's exactly right. So I think it'd be really really

1398
01:05:59,373 --> 01:06:02,413
Speaker 10: difficult to just click on and become the seventh state.

1399
01:06:04,573 --> 01:06:08,493
Speaker 10: I think even we talk about a state flag which

1400
01:06:08,533 --> 01:06:11,653
Speaker 10: would be perhaps out what we call our national flag,

1401
01:06:14,853 --> 01:06:17,733
Speaker 10: but it wouldn't be shown very far, only be shown

1402
01:06:17,813 --> 01:06:22,253
Speaker 10: in New Zealand nowhere else. Yeah, I think things like that.

1403
01:06:22,853 --> 01:06:24,613
Speaker 10: I just think it's probably just.

1404
01:06:25,653 --> 01:06:27,813
Speaker 2: What would have to change the world that would force it,

1405
01:06:28,413 --> 01:06:31,893
Speaker 2: you know. So this, you know, this argument started with

1406
01:06:31,933 --> 01:06:34,173
Speaker 2: the idea that we're too small for our own security.

1407
01:06:34,213 --> 01:06:36,533
Speaker 2: We're just sitting out there and that and the world

1408
01:06:36,653 --> 01:06:40,293
Speaker 2: order that's breaking down, where you know, borders are respected,

1409
01:06:40,613 --> 01:06:41,773
Speaker 2: and the argument is that we're going to go to

1410
01:06:41,853 --> 01:06:44,933
Speaker 2: the just the Miter's right era where the biggest countries

1411
01:06:44,973 --> 01:06:45,653
Speaker 2: get to do they want.

1412
01:06:47,053 --> 01:06:49,133
Speaker 10: Yeah, I heard that argument, but I thought, if you

1413
01:06:49,213 --> 01:06:53,253
Speaker 10: go back to the beginning of the twentieth century, all

1414
01:06:53,373 --> 01:06:58,133
Speaker 10: you had was empires. Yeah, and little people had to

1415
01:06:58,213 --> 01:07:01,213
Speaker 10: join onto big people to survive, and that happened all

1416
01:07:01,253 --> 01:07:04,133
Speaker 10: through Europe, and then you had a mess of Second

1417
01:07:04,173 --> 01:07:07,173
Speaker 10: World War, and then we've got what we call it

1418
01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:10,973
Speaker 10: the Second Age of the way we live and trade

1419
01:07:10,973 --> 01:07:13,253
Speaker 10: with each other. Yeah, and now I'm moving back, so

1420
01:07:13,373 --> 01:07:15,293
Speaker 10: it's all secular almost isn't it.

1421
01:07:15,533 --> 01:07:17,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing I'd say with that is like,

1422
01:07:18,133 --> 01:07:20,093
Speaker 2: if people are going to invade, doesn't matter if you've

1423
01:07:20,133 --> 01:07:23,493
Speaker 2: got twenty seven million or you've got thirty two million.

1424
01:07:24,173 --> 01:07:27,733
Speaker 2: You know, from a perspective, I guess it would be

1425
01:07:27,813 --> 01:07:29,893
Speaker 2: more of a pain. But you're still a pretty small

1426
01:07:30,013 --> 01:07:32,213
Speaker 2: player in the world. Australia and New Zealand together are

1427
01:07:33,013 --> 01:07:35,653
Speaker 2: It's better for New Zealand. We're a much bigger player, yep.

1428
01:07:36,773 --> 01:07:40,053
Speaker 2: If we're one country with Australia, but still pretty small

1429
01:07:40,133 --> 01:07:40,893
Speaker 2: on the world's scale.

1430
01:07:41,453 --> 01:07:44,133
Speaker 10: Oh, you're right. No, I don't think anyone would evade

1431
01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:48,373
Speaker 10: us because they would see us as a food just

1432
01:07:48,453 --> 01:07:52,613
Speaker 10: as a food farm. For the so called enemies of

1433
01:07:52,693 --> 01:07:55,293
Speaker 10: this country would see us as a food farm. And

1434
01:07:56,453 --> 01:07:59,973
Speaker 10: I'd rather just keep getting the food from us as

1435
01:08:00,053 --> 01:08:02,373
Speaker 10: opposed to having troops on the street.

1436
01:08:02,933 --> 01:08:05,973
Speaker 2: That's true actually, because you can get everything you need

1437
01:08:06,053 --> 01:08:09,133
Speaker 2: from us just by buying it. You know, we'll we'll

1438
01:08:09,173 --> 01:08:10,613
Speaker 2: work as hard as we can to make food as

1439
01:08:10,693 --> 01:08:12,533
Speaker 2: cheap as possible to give it to you. As we are,

1440
01:08:12,533 --> 01:08:13,533
Speaker 2: we're pretty efficient at it.

1441
01:08:13,613 --> 01:08:17,253
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly what would happen to our free trade agreements

1442
01:08:17,293 --> 01:08:19,933
Speaker 10: that we've already signed with people that they just get

1443
01:08:20,053 --> 01:08:22,173
Speaker 10: ripped up and you just work under the Aussie free

1444
01:08:22,253 --> 01:08:23,013
Speaker 10: trade agreements.

1445
01:08:23,173 --> 01:08:26,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose you'd have to. Yeah, these are big questions. Yeah,

1446
01:08:26,133 --> 01:08:28,253
Speaker 3: thanks for you call, Doug. Thank you very much taking

1447
01:08:28,333 --> 01:08:30,333
Speaker 3: your call as well. Your thoughts on this idea are

1448
01:08:30,372 --> 01:08:32,612
Speaker 3: becoming the sense state of Australia. Oh, one hundred and

1449
01:08:32,652 --> 01:08:35,492
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty it is sixteen to three.

1450
01:08:35,732 --> 01:08:37,532
Speaker 2: Is it true as the texts are saying that people

1451
01:08:37,572 --> 01:08:41,652
Speaker 2: from Gore called goroons, I hope for their sake, and

1452
01:08:41,893 --> 01:08:45,253
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1453
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1454
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1465
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1466
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Speaker 2: We're talking about should New Zealand push to become the

1467
01:09:22,053 --> 01:09:26,092
Speaker 2: seventh state of Australia, what would happen to our country?

1468
01:09:26,532 --> 01:09:29,412
Speaker 2: What would the advantages be? There's a side topic of

1469
01:09:29,492 --> 01:09:31,812
Speaker 2: what town people that live in certain towns are called.

1470
01:09:32,173 --> 01:09:34,772
Speaker 2: This person says, Hi, guys, people in Timoru area called

1471
01:09:34,893 --> 01:09:36,853
Speaker 2: Timereruvians Timeruvians.

1472
01:09:36,933 --> 01:09:39,293
Speaker 3: That's cool, that is yeah, you hang that with pride.

1473
01:09:39,612 --> 01:09:43,732
Speaker 2: People from morns Ville called morons, said Kevin. And what

1474
01:09:43,812 --> 01:09:47,013
Speaker 2: would happen to the Beehive in this situation where the

1475
01:09:47,053 --> 01:09:50,452
Speaker 2: federal where the central Government New Zealand would move to Canberra,

1476
01:09:50,732 --> 01:09:53,172
Speaker 2: the beef Hove would become a big yellow chemists warehouse.

1477
01:09:53,692 --> 01:09:55,892
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you had to ask what makes sense?

1478
01:09:56,053 --> 01:09:57,773
Speaker 3: Nine floors of ms warehouse.

1479
01:09:57,532 --> 01:10:04,612
Speaker 2: Correct so quickly? Why would os want New Zealand a

1480
01:10:04,732 --> 01:10:08,932
Speaker 2: racially divided bunch of brokees? Wokester's living on the benefit, Helmar,

1481
01:10:09,412 --> 01:10:12,293
Speaker 2: We're more than that. Ozzie would love New Zealand's sue.

1482
01:10:12,532 --> 01:10:13,812
Speaker 2: You're another Australian living here.

1483
01:10:14,372 --> 01:10:14,772
Speaker 16: I am.

1484
01:10:14,893 --> 01:10:19,972
Speaker 24: I couldn't disagree with your caller more your previous caller.

1485
01:10:20,372 --> 01:10:23,492
Speaker 24: I've been here thirty two years married a Kiwi and

1486
01:10:25,093 --> 01:10:27,052
Speaker 24: I love us here in New Zealand, but i also

1487
01:10:27,173 --> 01:10:31,133
Speaker 24: love Australia, and I've got that privilege of calling two

1488
01:10:31,253 --> 01:10:34,492
Speaker 24: places home. I've all often said, actually my husband and

1489
01:10:34,532 --> 01:10:37,852
Speaker 24: I have often said, hey, be great if we're another state.

1490
01:10:38,013 --> 01:10:42,412
Speaker 24: We actually operate probably like a state of Australia anyway.

1491
01:10:43,412 --> 01:10:47,452
Speaker 24: That could be quite controversial, but we've got a government,

1492
01:10:47,492 --> 01:10:50,892
Speaker 24: a central government, and once something is law or rule

1493
01:10:51,893 --> 01:10:55,333
Speaker 24: has changed, it affects the whole of New Zealand. So

1494
01:10:55,412 --> 01:10:58,253
Speaker 24: there's nothing, no degree of separation.

1495
01:10:58,532 --> 01:10:59,372
Speaker 21: It's just the law.

1496
01:10:59,492 --> 01:11:02,053
Speaker 24: It's a numbers count and that's it, and that's how

1497
01:11:02,093 --> 01:11:06,532
Speaker 24: a lot of that's how the state government works. So

1498
01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:11,492
Speaker 24: were great, you know we we we do need that

1499
01:11:11,732 --> 01:11:15,933
Speaker 24: big financial investment. We've only got a core group of

1500
01:11:16,053 --> 01:11:20,213
Speaker 24: tax payers that paid for a lot and so there's

1501
01:11:20,333 --> 01:11:23,253
Speaker 24: investment opportunities all that sort of thing. So there's some

1502
01:11:23,372 --> 01:11:25,772
Speaker 24: good things. I would love an Anzac dollar. All the

1503
01:11:25,893 --> 01:11:29,612
Speaker 24: years I've traveled backwards and forwards to my home state

1504
01:11:30,532 --> 01:11:33,612
Speaker 24: and having to change money all the time is can

1505
01:11:33,692 --> 01:11:40,013
Speaker 24: be frustrating. And our defense we've got probably our we will.

1506
01:11:40,093 --> 01:11:43,173
Speaker 24: We're part of the Commonwealth anyway, so we when we

1507
01:11:43,293 --> 01:11:47,612
Speaker 24: have alliances and allegiances and they go to all the

1508
01:11:48,053 --> 01:11:51,932
Speaker 24: you know, the all the different as O and ASY

1509
01:11:52,133 --> 01:11:54,293
Speaker 24: and they do go to all those. We're part of

1510
01:11:54,333 --> 01:11:59,773
Speaker 24: all that anyway, So there's already alliances between different countries,

1511
01:12:00,013 --> 01:12:03,973
Speaker 24: so that our biggest think push for something like that

1512
01:12:04,093 --> 01:12:07,933
Speaker 24: would be the biggest threat would be coming from some

1513
01:12:08,013 --> 01:12:12,372
Speaker 24: of those big Asian countries. Some of those that would

1514
01:12:12,412 --> 01:12:17,253
Speaker 24: be a you know, a military threat, and we've got

1515
01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:20,293
Speaker 24: to be realistic about that, and I think that's where

1516
01:12:20,933 --> 01:12:25,652
Speaker 24: we can and should link arms with Australia more so,

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01:12:26,532 --> 01:12:30,132
Speaker 24: there's a lot of things that stop our New Zealand

1518
01:12:30,253 --> 01:12:34,933
Speaker 24: soldiers in exercises when they join with the US, like

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01:12:35,013 --> 01:12:37,612
Speaker 24: our new Killer position. So you know, we are a

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01:12:37,732 --> 01:12:41,333
Speaker 24: good strategic position in the Pacific, and that would be

1521
01:12:41,893 --> 01:12:46,852
Speaker 24: our biggest, biggest threats protecting our strategic positions. So you know,

1522
01:12:46,933 --> 01:12:49,172
Speaker 24: there's a lot of good things about both of our countries.

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01:12:49,293 --> 01:12:52,612
Speaker 24: And like the lady said before, she was saying, oh,

1524
01:12:52,652 --> 01:12:54,013
Speaker 24: Australian's misogy.

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01:12:53,772 --> 01:12:55,213
Speaker 16: Well we have that here in New Zealand.

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01:12:55,253 --> 01:12:58,492
Speaker 24: You know, we've both had Australian Prime ministers and at

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01:12:58,532 --> 01:13:01,572
Speaker 24: the moment I probably would hesitate joining with Australia because

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01:13:01,572 --> 01:13:05,452
Speaker 24: they've got they've got laboring but and they're having there

1529
01:13:05,532 --> 01:13:08,612
Speaker 24: just in the years. But the ore's a lot of

1530
01:13:08,652 --> 01:13:10,492
Speaker 24: good things. We're good mates, I think.

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01:13:10,853 --> 01:13:11,053
Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:13:11,532 --> 01:13:15,013
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what too articulated her point incredibly, you

1533
01:13:15,093 --> 01:13:16,093
Speaker 2: can be the premiere suit.

1534
01:13:16,372 --> 01:13:18,293
Speaker 3: I like your style. You've got it sorted out.

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01:13:19,093 --> 01:13:21,013
Speaker 2: Does this says no need to do in Australia for

1536
01:13:21,093 --> 01:13:26,732
Speaker 2: defense reasons? If New Zealand invaded OZ. If New Zealand

1537
01:13:26,812 --> 01:13:29,452
Speaker 2: was invaded, os UK and US would be here in

1538
01:13:29,532 --> 01:13:33,612
Speaker 2: a flash to defend Paul. I don't know. I don't

1539
01:13:33,652 --> 01:13:36,412
Speaker 2: think the UK would because we thought for the longest time,

1540
01:13:36,532 --> 01:13:38,213
Speaker 2: you know, New Zealand as a country thought for the

1541
01:13:38,293 --> 01:13:40,133
Speaker 2: longest time the UK was with us, and they were

1542
01:13:40,253 --> 01:13:43,892
Speaker 2: very grateful for what happened in World War one and two.

1543
01:13:44,333 --> 01:13:45,933
Speaker 2: But then when they had that chance to join the

1544
01:13:46,053 --> 01:13:48,892
Speaker 2: EU in the seventies, they went, I screw you, New

1545
01:13:48,973 --> 01:13:51,612
Speaker 2: Zealand and just joined the EU and then stopped taking

1546
01:13:51,692 --> 01:13:56,492
Speaker 2: our meat, agricultural products and send us into that big

1547
01:13:57,213 --> 01:14:03,253
Speaker 2: economic fall that had Rob muldoone stockpiling butter and you know,

1548
01:14:03,372 --> 01:14:07,612
Speaker 2: brought in the Longi government. So I don't know, I

1549
01:14:07,652 --> 01:14:09,372
Speaker 2: don't know if you would. I don't know if that's

1550
01:14:09,372 --> 01:14:11,852
Speaker 2: seen anything to help us. Yeah, I think you've got

1551
01:14:11,893 --> 01:14:13,652
Speaker 2: a better chance of the US helping us than they've

1552
01:14:13,652 --> 01:14:14,093
Speaker 2: got the UK.

1553
01:14:14,293 --> 01:14:16,772
Speaker 3: I definitely think the US would come in and look.

1554
01:14:16,812 --> 01:14:18,652
Speaker 3: I think they like us, but also they like the

1555
01:14:18,772 --> 01:14:20,652
Speaker 3: South Pacific a whole lot more. They know that it's

1556
01:14:20,772 --> 01:14:24,093
Speaker 3: very strategic. Ossie, Yeah, I like to think Ozzie would

1557
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:24,492
Speaker 3: step up.

1558
01:14:25,013 --> 01:14:26,932
Speaker 2: What if Ozzie gets in trouble though, wuld New Zealand

1559
01:14:26,933 --> 01:14:28,213
Speaker 2: step up straight away for Ossie?

1560
01:14:28,612 --> 01:14:30,253
Speaker 3: I think we would. We'll do what we can.

1561
01:14:30,372 --> 01:14:31,572
Speaker 2: Send our parking wardens over.

1562
01:14:31,812 --> 01:14:33,412
Speaker 3: We don't have to anymore, do we.

1563
01:14:34,093 --> 01:14:34,213
Speaker 22: Right?

1564
01:14:34,293 --> 01:14:36,692
Speaker 3: Taking a quick break, it is eight minutes to three,

1565
01:14:36,812 --> 01:14:38,572
Speaker 3: taking more of your causes. It a good idea to

1566
01:14:38,612 --> 01:14:40,252
Speaker 3: become the seventh State of Australia.

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01:14:40,293 --> 01:14:43,852
Speaker 1: Bag very shortly the issues that affect you, and a

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01:14:43,933 --> 01:14:46,293
Speaker 1: bit of fun along the way, Mad Heath and Taylor

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1573
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1575
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Speaker 3: your clue.

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1577
01:15:06,053 --> 01:15:09,812
Speaker 2: do with that way? Their clue again, when you grab

1578
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Speaker 2: your surfboard, what are you going to do with that way?

1579
01:15:13,933 --> 01:15:16,652
Speaker 3: Cryptic? So make sure you're in to win a trip

1580
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Speaker 3: for two to the Tour de France. How goods. Just

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Speaker 3: go to Scota dot co dot z to enter fantastic stuff.

1582
01:15:25,532 --> 01:15:28,572
Speaker 3: Right quickly back to a few texts about the idea

1583
01:15:28,572 --> 01:15:31,053
Speaker 3: of becoming the seventh State of Australia.

1584
01:15:31,293 --> 01:15:34,093
Speaker 2: May your dream. And I'm an Aussie living here in

1585
01:15:34,173 --> 01:15:36,932
Speaker 2: New Zealand, and I have been I'm going to give

1586
01:15:37,013 --> 01:15:38,772
Speaker 2: up the Australians and have been here for many years.

1587
01:15:39,133 --> 01:15:41,333
Speaker 2: I can tell you now Australian and Australian don't want

1588
01:15:41,333 --> 01:15:43,652
Speaker 2: a bar of New Zealand becoming another state. They will

1589
01:15:43,692 --> 01:15:45,933
Speaker 2: see it as an economic and social drag on the

1590
01:15:45,933 --> 01:15:48,253
Speaker 2: Australian system. But the reality is New Zealand is more

1591
01:15:48,333 --> 01:15:50,652
Speaker 2: or less a little brother state anyway. Cheers, John, think

1592
01:15:50,692 --> 01:15:53,093
Speaker 2: you for your text. So if you think about it's

1593
01:15:53,853 --> 01:15:58,452
Speaker 2: you know, Australia's GDP about one point eight one point

1594
01:15:58,492 --> 01:16:01,812
Speaker 2: eight trillion, but more than one point eight trillion YEP,

1595
01:16:02,053 --> 01:16:07,093
Speaker 2: and our GDP two hundred and forty billion. So if

1596
01:16:07,173 --> 01:16:09,973
Speaker 2: we became the seven state, then that would push the

1597
01:16:11,093 --> 01:16:14,532
Speaker 2: the the billions over into two trillion. Yeah, it will

1598
01:16:14,572 --> 01:16:17,852
Speaker 2: look good, but is that enough. Well, let's talk more

1599
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:18,652
Speaker 2: about it after the break.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:16:18,933 --> 01:16:21,253
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1602
01:16:21,333 --> 01:16:23,093
Speaker 3: Love your thoughts on this. Nine to ninety two is

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01:16:23,133 --> 01:16:24,812
Speaker 3: the text. News is next.

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01:16:26,173 --> 01:16:29,812
Speaker 1: Your home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Matt Heath

1605
01:16:29,893 --> 01:16:33,372
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda on News Talks.

1606
01:16:33,372 --> 01:16:36,572
Speaker 3: There be get Ada. You welcome back into the show

1607
01:16:36,732 --> 01:16:39,253
Speaker 3: seven past three, and we have been talking about the

1608
01:16:39,372 --> 01:16:43,293
Speaker 3: idea pitch by political commentator David Farrer that New Zealand

1609
01:16:43,293 --> 01:16:46,013
Speaker 3: should become a part of Australia, the seventh state, if

1610
01:16:46,093 --> 01:16:48,452
Speaker 3: you will. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1611
01:16:48,492 --> 01:16:50,053
Speaker 3: the number to call a Nine two ninety two is

1612
01:16:50,133 --> 01:16:52,692
Speaker 3: the text. Whether you think that's a good idea, whether

1613
01:16:52,732 --> 01:16:53,932
Speaker 3: there's some benefits for us.

1614
01:16:54,093 --> 01:16:56,652
Speaker 2: Well, this text is remembering that in the earlier times,

1615
01:16:56,692 --> 01:16:58,572
Speaker 2: New Zealand was part of Australia. That's right, We're part

1616
01:16:58,572 --> 01:17:01,133
Speaker 2: of New South Wales which was which was real quite

1617
01:17:01,133 --> 01:17:04,893
Speaker 2: an odd situation because you know, we were all the

1618
01:17:04,933 --> 01:17:08,253
Speaker 2: way across the Tasman. Yeah, but part of New South

1619
01:17:08,372 --> 01:17:11,812
Speaker 2: Wales not for long. But then you know, places bordering

1620
01:17:12,853 --> 01:17:15,253
Speaker 2: New South Wales weren't, Yes, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,

1621
01:17:15,333 --> 01:17:18,932
Speaker 2: So it was a very very a very strange thing.

1622
01:17:19,013 --> 01:17:20,932
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy three, the UK did not say screw

1623
01:17:20,973 --> 01:17:23,253
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, but made huge efforts to protect our interests.

1624
01:17:23,253 --> 01:17:25,253
Speaker 2: The USA was a barrier to New Zealand meat, even

1625
01:17:25,293 --> 01:17:27,452
Speaker 2: forcing the return of the whole shipment to New Zealand

1626
01:17:27,452 --> 01:17:29,652
Speaker 2: because of a single human here found in a frozen

1627
01:17:29,772 --> 01:17:32,852
Speaker 2: prepared meat and hallibis. Yeah, they did say screw us

1628
01:17:32,853 --> 01:17:36,013
Speaker 2: and they joined the EU. Don they did. That's a

1629
01:17:36,093 --> 01:17:39,412
Speaker 2: totally different issue you're talking about there. Yeah, they no

1630
01:17:39,572 --> 01:17:42,452
Speaker 2: longer they joined the EU and so we were cut out.

1631
01:17:42,532 --> 01:17:43,933
Speaker 2: That's that's what happened.

1632
01:17:43,732 --> 01:17:46,253
Speaker 3: Right, similar to how Labor treats the Green Party sometimes

1633
01:17:46,692 --> 01:17:47,572
Speaker 3: that is what it feels like.

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01:17:48,372 --> 01:17:53,372
Speaker 2: They holded us. So just thinking about this, this is

1635
01:17:53,452 --> 01:17:55,812
Speaker 2: just doing numbers on a bit of paper. So forgive

1636
01:17:55,893 --> 01:17:59,772
Speaker 2: me if they're they're miles off. So New Zealand's GDP's

1637
01:17:59,772 --> 01:18:02,213
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty billion roughly, right, yep, givetake yep,

1638
01:18:02,253 --> 01:18:06,253
Speaker 2: and Australia's combined GDP across the seven states is one

1639
01:18:06,293 --> 01:18:10,612
Speaker 2: point eighty three trillion huge, So is that about? That's

1640
01:18:10,612 --> 01:18:13,852
Speaker 2: about thirteen and a half percent, you know, so we'd

1641
01:18:13,933 --> 01:18:17,213
Speaker 2: be thirteen half percent of the GDP. Now this is

1642
01:18:17,213 --> 01:18:18,892
Speaker 2: where the problem comes for us to try and get

1643
01:18:18,933 --> 01:18:22,492
Speaker 2: in part of Australia. We're their population is twenty seven million,

1644
01:18:22,532 --> 01:18:25,412
Speaker 2: in our populations five million, so we'd be eighteen percent

1645
01:18:25,492 --> 01:18:29,253
Speaker 2: of the population, but only bringing thirty three point five

1646
01:18:29,452 --> 01:18:33,333
Speaker 2: or thirty probably thirty three point three percent of the GDP. Yeah,

1647
01:18:33,452 --> 01:18:34,893
Speaker 2: so we've got a bit of a lag there in

1648
01:18:35,013 --> 01:18:37,292
Speaker 2: terms of how much we're worth per person.

1649
01:18:37,173 --> 01:18:39,013
Speaker 3: When you break it down like that, just don't tell

1650
01:18:39,013 --> 01:18:41,772
Speaker 3: Australia this ever comes to pass. Just keep those stats.

1651
01:18:42,053 --> 01:18:44,572
Speaker 2: But queenstowns but would go on the back side. You've

1652
01:18:44,572 --> 01:18:47,092
Speaker 2: got nothing like Queenstown. Yes, you got other like Queenie.

1653
01:18:47,093 --> 01:18:48,572
Speaker 2: You ain't got the central to Tago over there.

1654
01:18:48,692 --> 01:18:50,532
Speaker 3: Look at the Southern Alps. Come on, or is you

1655
01:18:50,572 --> 01:18:52,973
Speaker 3: want it? One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1656
01:18:53,133 --> 01:18:57,612
Speaker 3: number to call get a Zia. Good lads have gone

1657
01:18:57,973 --> 01:18:59,892
Speaker 3: very good. So what are you reckon about this idea?

1658
01:19:01,973 --> 01:19:02,133
Speaker 12: Oh?

1659
01:19:02,973 --> 01:19:05,973
Speaker 19: I've been thinking all day about this since heren it

1660
01:19:06,013 --> 01:19:08,492
Speaker 19: this morning, and I just can't think of me need

1661
01:19:08,572 --> 01:19:10,173
Speaker 19: benefits really whatsoever?

1662
01:19:13,173 --> 01:19:13,293
Speaker 5: Uh?

1663
01:19:14,013 --> 01:19:18,572
Speaker 19: Well for us, right obviously, I think you know, one

1664
01:19:18,652 --> 01:19:20,932
Speaker 19: thing I thought, maybe you know, maybe they would help

1665
01:19:21,013 --> 01:19:24,013
Speaker 19: us with our mining, uh you know, And there was

1666
01:19:24,053 --> 01:19:26,173
Speaker 19: one thing I thought, oh yeah, that was definitely maybe

1667
01:19:26,213 --> 01:19:28,692
Speaker 19: there's been some benefits there. But I think you've got

1668
01:19:28,812 --> 01:19:32,372
Speaker 19: to look at it on the whole. I just yeah,

1669
01:19:32,412 --> 01:19:34,893
Speaker 19: I mean, like what what what do we have to

1670
01:19:35,013 --> 01:19:36,492
Speaker 19: gain out of that? I mean, do we want to

1671
01:19:36,532 --> 01:19:40,093
Speaker 19: take on their political ideology? Do we want to take

1672
01:19:40,213 --> 01:19:43,532
Speaker 19: on all the rest of the stuff that that makes

1673
01:19:43,652 --> 01:19:45,572
Speaker 19: us so different as people?

1674
01:19:45,732 --> 01:19:47,412
Speaker 5: I mean not really I would have thought.

1675
01:19:47,853 --> 01:19:47,893
Speaker 25: So.

1676
01:19:48,013 --> 01:19:51,012
Speaker 2: The argument is that there'd be greater security guarantees because

1677
01:19:51,093 --> 01:19:54,692
Speaker 2: because you know, for us, and access to a large economy,

1678
01:19:54,732 --> 01:19:56,772
Speaker 2: so we'd have straight access to the economy. We're just

1679
01:19:56,893 --> 01:19:58,612
Speaker 2: we're get stuck and there. We've got pretty good access now,

1680
01:19:58,652 --> 01:20:03,372
Speaker 2: but we'll be straight and streamlined and so. And they're

1681
01:20:03,372 --> 01:20:06,732
Speaker 2: also a stronger regional influence, but it would be as

1682
01:20:07,093 --> 01:20:11,093
Speaker 2: arguably be Australia's a regional and influence in the state

1683
01:20:11,173 --> 01:20:13,852
Speaker 2: of New Zealand would have the same regional influence and

1684
01:20:14,853 --> 01:20:18,532
Speaker 2: just shared defense and some shared infrastructure, I guess be

1685
01:20:18,532 --> 01:20:20,532
Speaker 2: the thing. But you could have New Zealand still keeping

1686
01:20:20,572 --> 01:20:24,732
Speaker 2: its cultural identity as a state because we'd have our

1687
01:20:24,812 --> 01:20:25,532
Speaker 2: state government.

1688
01:20:26,973 --> 01:20:28,692
Speaker 19: Yeah. Well that's the other thing is that do we

1689
01:20:28,812 --> 01:20:32,293
Speaker 19: want to incorporate federal government level?

1690
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:35,532
Speaker 5: Do we need more bureaucracy?

1691
01:20:35,652 --> 01:20:37,213
Speaker 12: Do we need all of that stuff?

1692
01:20:37,213 --> 01:20:39,133
Speaker 21: And I just I just don't think we think.

1693
01:20:39,173 --> 01:20:43,933
Speaker 2: I think wouldn't if something came from Canberra and they

1694
01:20:44,013 --> 01:20:47,053
Speaker 2: said Canberra has decided this, we'd be like, you're off, you.

1695
01:20:47,093 --> 01:20:48,333
Speaker 3: Know, country.

1696
01:20:50,372 --> 01:20:53,653
Speaker 26: That's why we love the Tasman Sea because it separates

1697
01:20:53,772 --> 01:20:57,093
Speaker 26: us by a little bit, you know. Yeah, I think

1698
01:20:57,173 --> 01:20:59,532
Speaker 26: you know it's good him to the point where like,

1699
01:21:00,412 --> 01:21:02,333
Speaker 26: I mean, how old is David Farreh.

1700
01:21:03,333 --> 01:21:06,692
Speaker 3: I'd be in his fifties, I imagine, just so he's.

1701
01:21:06,572 --> 01:21:09,772
Speaker 26: Got it's got twenty twenty five years at best, and

1702
01:21:09,853 --> 01:21:12,253
Speaker 26: then we'd be stuck with his idea for the rest

1703
01:21:12,333 --> 01:21:15,772
Speaker 26: of our life, you know what I mean.

1704
01:21:15,893 --> 01:21:18,892
Speaker 2: He's fifty he's fifty eight years old. But yeah, I mean,

1705
01:21:18,933 --> 01:21:24,372
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, someone like David Farrah has to

1706
01:21:24,492 --> 01:21:26,812
Speaker 2: come up with a column every week, right, so he

1707
01:21:26,933 --> 01:21:28,532
Speaker 2: thinks of an idea like this, and so no one's

1708
01:21:28,572 --> 01:21:30,093
Speaker 2: written about this for a while, so it's not his

1709
01:21:30,253 --> 01:21:33,452
Speaker 2: idea for any Streish imagination. It's an idea that circles

1710
01:21:33,452 --> 01:21:36,492
Speaker 2: around every six months from whatever particular opinion piece. Right,

1711
01:21:36,532 --> 01:21:37,892
Speaker 2: I can't think of something to write about this.

1712
01:21:37,933 --> 01:21:42,133
Speaker 25: Week, so it should be shelves, and it should be

1713
01:21:42,213 --> 01:21:43,732
Speaker 25: kids here dust.

1714
01:21:43,732 --> 01:21:44,892
Speaker 2: And who's worse than him?

1715
01:21:44,933 --> 01:21:45,093
Speaker 10: Though?

1716
01:21:45,372 --> 01:21:48,293
Speaker 2: Because then there's news this talkback hosts like us that go, oh,

1717
01:21:48,293 --> 01:21:49,572
Speaker 2: there's something we'd like to talk about.

1718
01:21:49,772 --> 01:21:50,812
Speaker 3: So good idea, David.

1719
01:21:52,173 --> 01:21:55,372
Speaker 2: So I can't I can't judge him for doing what's that?

1720
01:21:57,173 --> 01:21:59,812
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's not for us.

1721
01:22:00,213 --> 01:22:01,293
Speaker 2: Yeah again for us.

1722
01:22:01,333 --> 01:22:04,213
Speaker 25: You know, we're too we want to keep our identity

1723
01:22:04,333 --> 01:22:08,012
Speaker 25: and and the point though that you know we think

1724
01:22:08,133 --> 01:22:10,492
Speaker 25: that be able to keep our talks for identity, but

1725
01:22:10,652 --> 01:22:13,012
Speaker 25: you watch it, it would bleed and it would leach

1726
01:22:13,213 --> 01:22:16,933
Speaker 25: and then all of a sudden, Uh, you know, we're

1727
01:22:16,973 --> 01:22:18,972
Speaker 25: Australia and we don't love that, you know, I mean,

1728
01:22:19,173 --> 01:22:20,652
Speaker 25: how would how would Rugby go?

1729
01:22:21,452 --> 01:22:24,293
Speaker 3: Yeah? What if we give them a couple of islands

1730
01:22:24,412 --> 01:22:26,852
Speaker 3: to start off with, like Stuart Island and Wayhike just

1731
01:22:26,893 --> 01:22:27,692
Speaker 3: to see how it goes.

1732
01:22:32,333 --> 01:22:33,852
Speaker 2: But if they if they gave us a state of

1733
01:22:34,412 --> 01:22:37,053
Speaker 2: state of you know, you know, we could get in

1734
01:22:37,133 --> 01:22:39,372
Speaker 2: there and that that whole situation and New Zealand became

1735
01:22:39,412 --> 01:22:39,972
Speaker 2: a state of OG.

1736
01:22:40,133 --> 01:22:41,852
Speaker 26: We've got a few more if we've got a few

1737
01:22:41,933 --> 01:22:43,972
Speaker 26: more n R L games out of it, you know, Hey,

1738
01:22:44,093 --> 01:22:46,773
Speaker 26: it was starting to starting to pull on the heartstrings

1739
01:22:46,853 --> 01:22:47,253
Speaker 26: now there.

1740
01:22:47,692 --> 01:22:51,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for your call mate. Now the I

1741
01:22:51,293 --> 01:22:54,053
Speaker 2: was just thinking about that whole thing with David for

1742
01:22:54,173 --> 01:22:58,213
Speaker 2: our writing this article, right and then us talking about it,

1743
01:22:58,893 --> 01:23:01,812
Speaker 2: and I just judged him for it, and I just thought, actually,

1744
01:23:02,013 --> 01:23:05,293
Speaker 2: he in a way was just the person that you know,

1745
01:23:05,893 --> 01:23:08,852
Speaker 2: opened the fish and chips on the on the beach,

1746
01:23:09,412 --> 01:23:11,133
Speaker 2: and we're just a couple of seagulls that are jumping

1747
01:23:11,173 --> 01:23:11,852
Speaker 2: on top of it, are we?

1748
01:23:11,973 --> 01:23:15,852
Speaker 3: It's spot on. It's a great analogy. Yeah, give us

1749
01:23:15,853 --> 01:23:18,492
Speaker 3: your content. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1750
01:23:18,612 --> 01:23:21,652
Speaker 3: the number two call. Couple of texts coming through as

1751
01:23:21,692 --> 01:23:25,412
Speaker 3: well on nine to nine to two. We'll get to

1752
01:23:25,452 --> 01:23:28,532
Speaker 3: some of those very shortly. It is thirteen past three, bag,

1753
01:23:28,652 --> 01:23:31,652
Speaker 3: very shortly. His talk sa'd be sixteen past three. Speaking

1754
01:23:31,692 --> 01:23:33,052
Speaker 3: of employment, My one.

1755
01:23:32,973 --> 01:23:35,572
Speaker 2: Of my son's, a teenage son, got a job recently

1756
01:23:35,812 --> 01:23:38,612
Speaker 2: nice and he had his first day of work and

1757
01:23:38,732 --> 01:23:41,372
Speaker 2: he came back and it's funny. He's a very smart kid.

1758
01:23:41,452 --> 01:23:44,972
Speaker 2: He knows a lot about the world. He's he's great

1759
01:23:45,133 --> 01:23:47,173
Speaker 2: when we go to pub quizards because he knows everything.

1760
01:23:47,333 --> 01:23:49,973
Speaker 2: But he's also naive about some things, as you are

1761
01:23:50,133 --> 01:23:53,732
Speaker 2: a teenager. And he went to the work and he

1762
01:23:53,812 --> 01:23:56,452
Speaker 2: came back and he said, and I said, that's great.

1763
01:23:56,492 --> 01:23:58,692
Speaker 2: You've earned a bunch of money. You know, you've probably

1764
01:23:58,692 --> 01:24:02,612
Speaker 2: earned one hundred and forty bucks. And he was like, what,

1765
01:24:03,253 --> 01:24:05,852
Speaker 2: I thought I was getting their minimum wage? And I said, yeah,

1766
01:24:05,853 --> 01:24:08,933
Speaker 2: the minimum wage comes every hour, and he goes, I

1767
01:24:09,013 --> 01:24:10,732
Speaker 2: thought the minimum wage was just what I was getting paid.

1768
01:24:10,772 --> 01:24:12,412
Speaker 2: He said. I thought this was one of those things

1769
01:24:12,452 --> 01:24:15,133
Speaker 2: where you've forced me into a sports team or forced

1770
01:24:15,173 --> 01:24:17,532
Speaker 2: me to do something. I thought this was a learning experience.

1771
01:24:17,772 --> 01:24:20,133
Speaker 2: And he was so stoked. And I told him how

1772
01:24:20,213 --> 01:24:23,133
Speaker 2: much you get paid now to work, and the job

1773
01:24:23,213 --> 01:24:24,133
Speaker 2: that he was doing, he would be.

1774
01:24:24,173 --> 01:24:26,213
Speaker 3: So he thought he was getting twenty three bucks whatever

1775
01:24:26,333 --> 01:24:28,133
Speaker 3: for eight hours of work. Yeah, and then you told

1776
01:24:28,173 --> 01:24:30,813
Speaker 3: them one hundred and forty's like, oh, dad, japot.

1777
01:24:30,372 --> 01:24:32,093
Speaker 2: Well he's only young, so he doesn't get he gets

1778
01:24:32,173 --> 01:24:35,133
Speaker 2: the or the youth wage. Yeah, that the child minimum wage.

1779
01:24:35,173 --> 01:24:38,093
Speaker 2: And I think that's still eighteen dollars and fifty cents

1780
01:24:38,213 --> 01:24:39,852
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, so he thought he was getting a

1781
01:24:39,893 --> 01:24:42,972
Speaker 2: total of eighteen fifty. He's so excited he couldn't believe it. Yeah,

1782
01:24:43,133 --> 01:24:44,532
Speaker 2: he goes and then he goes. So I just go

1783
01:24:44,652 --> 01:24:46,452
Speaker 2: in there and work and then I get that much money.

1784
01:24:46,973 --> 01:24:49,133
Speaker 2: The beauty of having a job that's so good it

1785
01:24:49,293 --> 01:24:51,933
Speaker 2: is wactually finds out. I'm going to expect them to

1786
01:24:52,013 --> 01:24:52,972
Speaker 2: contribute to the mortgage.

1787
01:24:54,532 --> 01:24:56,492
Speaker 3: All right, we are getting back to our discussion about

1788
01:24:56,492 --> 01:24:58,973
Speaker 3: New Zealand becoming the seventh state of Australia.

1789
01:24:59,452 --> 01:25:02,612
Speaker 2: Based on our water, mineral and farmland supply in New Zealand,

1790
01:25:02,652 --> 01:25:05,333
Speaker 2: we would be an extremely appealing get for them should

1791
01:25:05,412 --> 01:25:08,093
Speaker 2: we become part of Australia. That would more than make

1792
01:25:08,173 --> 01:25:11,253
Speaker 2: up for our lower GDP and economy and benefit New

1793
01:25:11,333 --> 01:25:16,093
Speaker 2: Zealand will be that would we have a stronger military protection. Yeah, sorry,

1794
01:25:16,572 --> 01:25:18,053
Speaker 2: that's come out wrong, but you get what he's trying

1795
01:25:18,093 --> 01:25:21,253
Speaker 2: to say. It's interesting. Do you remember Hamish and Andy

1796
01:25:21,372 --> 01:25:22,933
Speaker 2: that time they were doing a They were doing this

1797
01:25:23,133 --> 01:25:25,053
Speaker 2: thing on New Zealand and you know, Australia has a

1798
01:25:25,053 --> 01:25:26,972
Speaker 2: whole lot of water problems. Yes, and they were going

1799
01:25:27,013 --> 01:25:30,293
Speaker 2: in New Zealand too much water, saying people in New

1800
01:25:30,372 --> 01:25:31,852
Speaker 2: Zealand have to turn on the tap so they don't

1801
01:25:32,452 --> 01:25:33,692
Speaker 2: so they don't flood all the time.

1802
01:25:33,973 --> 01:25:35,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very clever that.

1803
01:25:36,053 --> 01:25:37,932
Speaker 2: You know, we've got a lot more water than Australia.

1804
01:25:37,973 --> 01:25:42,333
Speaker 3: We certainly do. Ben you reckon, it's a no, yeah,

1805
01:25:43,053 --> 01:25:43,892
Speaker 3: you don't. Good.

1806
01:25:44,772 --> 01:25:44,932
Speaker 19: Well.

1807
01:25:45,333 --> 01:25:48,213
Speaker 17: I was thinking it's kind of almost at the heart

1808
01:25:48,253 --> 01:25:50,452
Speaker 17: of a part of the problem with New Zealanders are

1809
01:25:50,532 --> 01:25:55,013
Speaker 17: still seeing ourselves as a as a small country, and

1810
01:25:55,253 --> 01:25:57,452
Speaker 17: these kind of discussions, you know, seem to kind of

1811
01:25:57,492 --> 01:26:00,452
Speaker 17: permeate and the and the political spectrum there and there,

1812
01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:04,972
Speaker 17: and kind of from that basis, you know, it's an interesting,

1813
01:26:05,732 --> 01:26:08,213
Speaker 17: interesting thing that we would kind of consider ourselves small

1814
01:26:08,452 --> 01:26:11,892
Speaker 17: enough to kind of join the likes of Australia rather

1815
01:26:11,973 --> 01:26:14,772
Speaker 17: than kind of seeing, you know, the rest of the

1816
01:26:14,812 --> 01:26:17,133
Speaker 17: world is an opportunity and all of that kind of

1817
01:26:17,173 --> 01:26:17,692
Speaker 17: side of things.

1818
01:26:18,013 --> 01:26:20,213
Speaker 2: So you think it's sort of a representation of a

1819
01:26:20,293 --> 01:26:23,972
Speaker 2: lack of confidence or something being.

1820
01:26:24,412 --> 01:26:26,452
Speaker 17: Yeah, it speaks a little bit to the psyche and

1821
01:26:27,133 --> 01:26:29,572
Speaker 17: you look at other other states, like you know, Ireland,

1822
01:26:29,853 --> 01:26:34,412
Speaker 17: you know, comparable size GDP and population kind of thing.

1823
01:26:34,452 --> 01:26:36,932
Speaker 17: And when you think about that, it's not a small

1824
01:26:37,213 --> 01:26:40,173
Speaker 17: small brother or a small island state. There are you know,

1825
01:26:40,213 --> 01:26:43,772
Speaker 17: a nation of their kind of own volition, and you

1826
01:26:43,853 --> 01:26:47,532
Speaker 17: know the likes of New Zealand and and and others,

1827
01:26:47,732 --> 01:26:50,412
Speaker 17: heaps of trading potential around the Pacific and you know,

1828
01:26:50,452 --> 01:26:53,012
Speaker 17: one hundred and ninety six other countries in the world.

1829
01:26:54,293 --> 01:26:55,973
Speaker 17: But yeah, I think it speaks volumes just to that

1830
01:26:56,093 --> 01:26:58,492
Speaker 17: kind of mentality and the way that we see ourselves

1831
01:26:58,572 --> 01:27:01,732
Speaker 17: in the world and potentially part of the hamstring we

1832
01:27:01,853 --> 01:27:04,333
Speaker 17: have in relation to our agement.

1833
01:27:04,692 --> 01:27:07,213
Speaker 2: I like what you like what you're saying. We should

1834
01:27:07,293 --> 01:27:10,333
Speaker 2: just be going we're not as big Australia, but we're

1835
01:27:10,333 --> 01:27:12,253
Speaker 2: going to kick us as much as we possibly can.

1836
01:27:12,933 --> 01:27:14,932
Speaker 2: And I think we generally do, to be honest, Ben,

1837
01:27:15,253 --> 01:27:18,612
Speaker 2: don't we Absolutely? Yeah. I mean I think we kind

1838
01:27:18,612 --> 01:27:22,172
Speaker 2: of have a a two speed thought process in New Zealand.

1839
01:27:22,893 --> 01:27:25,812
Speaker 2: Part of us goes, we are amazing, we punch above

1840
01:27:25,933 --> 01:27:30,133
Speaker 2: our weight, we're incredible number eight fencing wild thinking. At

1841
01:27:30,133 --> 01:27:31,932
Speaker 2: the same time, we have another part of our mind

1842
01:27:32,013 --> 01:27:36,812
Speaker 2: going we're lame and we're just small and you know

1843
01:27:37,053 --> 01:27:39,452
Speaker 2: we're not doing very well. So I think we're both

1844
01:27:39,612 --> 01:27:43,013
Speaker 2: incredibly patriotic as well as running ourselves down sort of simultaneously.

1845
01:27:43,093 --> 01:27:44,173
Speaker 2: Do you experience that being.

1846
01:27:44,973 --> 01:27:46,492
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I think you probably had had it a

1847
01:27:46,532 --> 01:27:48,173
Speaker 17: little bit on the head. But I think even just

1848
01:27:48,253 --> 01:27:50,293
Speaker 17: to pack up on what you were talking about earlier

1849
01:27:50,293 --> 01:27:52,893
Speaker 17: about the UK and kind of the milk crisis and

1850
01:27:53,372 --> 01:27:55,612
Speaker 17: all of that that happened, you know, with sin joining

1851
01:27:55,652 --> 01:27:58,412
Speaker 17: the EU, you know that it's an interesting kind of

1852
01:27:58,652 --> 01:28:00,893
Speaker 17: you know, thought process attached to you know, why we

1853
01:28:01,013 --> 01:28:04,093
Speaker 17: trade up there and to the US and to other

1854
01:28:04,173 --> 01:28:07,812
Speaker 17: places and not into you know, a sub Saharan African

1855
01:28:07,893 --> 01:28:10,132
Speaker 17: state that that might actually be kind of a lucrative

1856
01:28:11,213 --> 01:28:13,892
Speaker 17: you know, milk market or for a range of other

1857
01:28:14,492 --> 01:28:18,213
Speaker 17: kind of growing economies outside of the large powerhouses.

1858
01:28:18,532 --> 01:28:21,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean absolutely, because you know, we

1859
01:28:21,372 --> 01:28:23,812
Speaker 2: can blame the UK for joining the EU and cutting

1860
01:28:23,853 --> 01:28:27,012
Speaker 2: our exports out, but equally we should look at ourselves

1861
01:28:27,053 --> 01:28:29,133
Speaker 2: and go, why did we just you know, all our

1862
01:28:29,173 --> 01:28:30,092
Speaker 2: eggs in one basket.

1863
01:28:30,213 --> 01:28:31,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did what was best for them.

1864
01:28:31,732 --> 01:28:35,052
Speaker 2: We should have been trying to export to the closer

1865
01:28:35,692 --> 01:28:38,293
Speaker 2: you know, Asia a lot quicker than that. Yeah, you know,

1866
01:28:38,333 --> 01:28:40,852
Speaker 2: we're own, We're like the key. We losing its wings.

1867
01:28:40,893 --> 01:28:43,372
Speaker 2: You know, we had a good set up, so we went, oh,

1868
01:28:43,412 --> 01:28:44,893
Speaker 2: we don't need our wings anymore. We're just going to

1869
01:28:45,333 --> 01:28:48,412
Speaker 2: keep exporting our lamb too England and we'll be rich

1870
01:28:48,612 --> 01:28:51,133
Speaker 2: and it'll be fantastic. And then it's not always that way,

1871
01:28:51,173 --> 01:28:54,052
Speaker 2: so you've always got to be looking for other markets. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1872
01:28:54,173 --> 01:28:56,412
Speaker 3: Ireland's a great example as well, Ben, is that they

1873
01:28:56,492 --> 01:28:58,732
Speaker 3: you know, they weren't doing so well fifteen years ago

1874
01:28:58,812 --> 01:29:01,772
Speaker 3: and then they rejigged their text regulations and look at

1875
01:29:01,812 --> 01:29:04,412
Speaker 3: them now. They are screaming because they had confidence. Someone

1876
01:29:04,492 --> 01:29:06,333
Speaker 3: came in, you change the government and said we can

1877
01:29:06,412 --> 01:29:08,492
Speaker 3: do this. Let's kick some ass, and now they are

1878
01:29:08,612 --> 01:29:09,133
Speaker 3: kicking us.

1879
01:29:09,452 --> 01:29:12,692
Speaker 17: Yeah, but I was sorry, you go, Ben, not even

1880
01:29:12,732 --> 01:29:14,932
Speaker 17: on the text regulations, but even kind of in terms

1881
01:29:14,973 --> 01:29:17,213
Speaker 17: of their global engagement. So you know, I've spent a

1882
01:29:17,253 --> 01:29:19,532
Speaker 17: bit of time in different places and kind of the

1883
01:29:19,612 --> 01:29:22,293
Speaker 17: presence of Ireland. Yeah, and a lot of the places

1884
01:29:22,652 --> 01:29:25,412
Speaker 17: is quite interesting. So you know, Texas one component, you know,

1885
01:29:26,692 --> 01:29:30,772
Speaker 17: but actually engagement how you market yourself, and then you

1886
01:29:30,812 --> 01:29:32,892
Speaker 17: know a range of other things are also important too.

1887
01:29:33,053 --> 01:29:39,372
Speaker 2: So well, Ireland exported a huge amount of people. I've

1888
01:29:39,372 --> 01:29:42,333
Speaker 2: spent Saint Pat's Day in New York, and it is

1889
01:29:43,053 --> 01:29:47,253
Speaker 2: crazy the influence that Ireland has in New York and Boston.

1890
01:29:47,412 --> 01:29:51,772
Speaker 2: It's it's it's huge, right. But then again, when people

1891
01:29:51,812 --> 01:29:54,253
Speaker 2: compare US to Ireland, Ireland is just sitting on one

1892
01:29:54,372 --> 01:29:56,892
Speaker 2: side of the UK, so they've got all the access

1893
01:29:57,093 --> 01:29:59,852
Speaker 2: to you know, you know, the rest of Britain, and

1894
01:30:00,013 --> 01:30:02,732
Speaker 2: then Europe is just over that, right, Yeah, So I

1895
01:30:02,812 --> 01:30:05,732
Speaker 2: mean there's so much closer, there's so much closer to

1896
01:30:06,053 --> 01:30:09,772
Speaker 2: two huge trading parts, you know, trading opportunities than we are.

1897
01:30:11,133 --> 01:30:12,772
Speaker 17: It gets in the same volition as well. You know,

1898
01:30:12,853 --> 01:30:15,652
Speaker 17: you've got the largest maritime zone in the world just

1899
01:30:15,732 --> 01:30:19,572
Speaker 17: off the coast here, and some some very interesting kind

1900
01:30:19,612 --> 01:30:22,492
Speaker 17: of markets that we probably haven't looked at to the

1901
01:30:22,572 --> 01:30:25,253
Speaker 17: greatest extent. That other that other countries are you know,

1902
01:30:25,333 --> 01:30:29,852
Speaker 17: the US and and other kind of Asian economies looking

1903
01:30:29,893 --> 01:30:31,572
Speaker 17: in there, and I think, you know, sometimes it's easy

1904
01:30:31,612 --> 01:30:33,772
Speaker 17: to put the blinkers on and think, okay, well, you know,

1905
01:30:33,853 --> 01:30:39,013
Speaker 17: the US, China, India or those big economies of the

1906
01:30:39,013 --> 01:30:41,692
Speaker 17: way to kind of solve whatever it is that we're doing.

1907
01:30:41,772 --> 01:30:44,372
Speaker 17: But there's there's a range of other quite interesting opportunities

1908
01:30:44,492 --> 01:30:47,133
Speaker 17: and you know, the Pacific is you know, from a

1909
01:30:47,173 --> 01:30:51,772
Speaker 17: fishery standpoint, you know, at a powerhouse in its own

1910
01:30:51,853 --> 01:30:52,293
Speaker 17: kind of right.

1911
01:30:52,652 --> 01:30:53,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much.

1912
01:30:53,732 --> 01:30:56,692
Speaker 3: Being great call to finish on back ourselves, get some confidence.

1913
01:30:56,933 --> 01:30:59,492
Speaker 2: Yeah almost being Liz Becker Sales. Why don't we try

1914
01:30:59,492 --> 01:31:00,412
Speaker 2: a NNEX Greenland.

1915
01:31:00,853 --> 01:31:03,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's do it take Australia where I read.

1916
01:31:03,213 --> 01:31:06,092
Speaker 2: It instead of trying to buddy up to Australia. Let's sake, Greenland.

1917
01:31:06,173 --> 01:31:09,093
Speaker 3: Let's still a fantastic discussion. Thank you to everybody who

1918
01:31:09,173 --> 01:31:11,612
Speaker 3: called in text on that one. Love that one. Right

1919
01:31:11,732 --> 01:31:14,972
Speaker 3: coming up after we play some messages. China is set

1920
01:31:14,973 --> 01:31:17,692
Speaker 3: to become the first country to ban hidden or electronic

1921
01:31:17,772 --> 01:31:21,053
Speaker 3: door handles on electric vehicles. It starts next year and

1922
01:31:21,173 --> 01:31:24,053
Speaker 3: they are saying no more mainly due to health and

1923
01:31:24,133 --> 01:31:26,293
Speaker 3: safety reasons. But we're going to have a chat about

1924
01:31:26,333 --> 01:31:27,532
Speaker 3: that very shortly.

1925
01:31:28,093 --> 01:31:31,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean car door handles are getting out of hand.

1926
01:31:31,853 --> 01:31:33,173
Speaker 2: I was trying to get in an uber the other

1927
01:31:33,253 --> 01:31:34,852
Speaker 2: day and there was no way to work it out.

1928
01:31:35,173 --> 01:31:37,093
Speaker 2: It was like a rebikscube trying to get into that thing.

1929
01:31:37,213 --> 01:31:39,012
Speaker 3: It's going to be good. Twenty four past three.

1930
01:31:42,772 --> 01:31:46,412
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons. Call Oh eight hundred eighty

1931
01:31:46,492 --> 01:31:48,652
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk said, be very.

1932
01:31:48,572 --> 01:31:51,532
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Tue twenty seven past three. So China is

1933
01:31:51,732 --> 01:31:53,932
Speaker 3: set to become the first country to ban these hidden

1934
01:31:54,293 --> 01:31:57,532
Speaker 3: or electronic door handles on electric vehicles. And you see

1935
01:31:57,572 --> 01:32:01,052
Speaker 3: these things all the time now, particularly with EV's BYD

1936
01:32:01,253 --> 01:32:04,612
Speaker 3: have brought in some funky new designs on their door handles. Tesla,

1937
01:32:04,933 --> 01:32:07,253
Speaker 3: obviously we're one of the first, but it is a

1938
01:32:07,293 --> 01:32:10,492
Speaker 3: big move from China. They're doing it because of health

1939
01:32:10,532 --> 01:32:12,973
Speaker 3: and safety issues where people have a crash and they

1940
01:32:13,013 --> 01:32:14,412
Speaker 3: can't get out of the ey car.

1941
01:32:14,772 --> 01:32:17,213
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm happy with a pull handle and a

1942
01:32:17,372 --> 01:32:20,372
Speaker 2: left handle. I'm not so happy with flushed handles or

1943
01:32:20,492 --> 01:32:26,333
Speaker 2: recessed handles or hidden handles. I just think that it's

1944
01:32:26,412 --> 01:32:28,852
Speaker 2: too complicated, right, But there's things in cars that just

1945
01:32:28,973 --> 01:32:31,492
Speaker 2: are getting forced upon us, which I don't think we

1946
01:32:31,652 --> 01:32:33,452
Speaker 2: need things that didn't need to be fixed.

1947
01:32:33,572 --> 01:32:33,772
Speaker 5: Yep.

1948
01:32:34,013 --> 01:32:39,293
Speaker 2: Like in my car, I've got the rotary gearshift dial right,

1949
01:32:39,452 --> 01:32:42,333
Speaker 2: so you you know, you don't know when you're putting

1950
01:32:42,333 --> 01:32:44,213
Speaker 2: into gear, you know, putting into drive, you spin this

1951
01:32:44,333 --> 01:32:49,213
Speaker 2: little thing. Yes, I'm like, who wanted that such a

1952
01:32:49,253 --> 01:32:50,812
Speaker 2: weird thing that go. So you're going to reverse, there's

1953
01:32:50,812 --> 01:32:53,173
Speaker 2: no joy in going to reverse. You're not shoving anything

1954
01:32:53,173 --> 01:32:55,652
Speaker 2: into reverse, You're just spinning the little thing putting it there.

1955
01:32:56,492 --> 01:32:57,253
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of that.

1956
01:32:57,452 --> 01:32:57,652
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1957
01:32:57,732 --> 01:33:01,372
Speaker 2: I'm also not a fan of the just your key

1958
01:33:01,452 --> 01:33:03,093
Speaker 2: and pressing the button. And that's been the case for

1959
01:33:03,173 --> 01:33:05,412
Speaker 2: a long time with cars, right, So I think it'd

1960
01:33:05,452 --> 01:33:06,852
Speaker 2: be hard pressed to get a car now where you

1961
01:33:06,893 --> 01:33:09,612
Speaker 2: put a key in the ignition. Yeah, but I mean,

1962
01:33:09,692 --> 01:33:12,892
Speaker 2: what's the whole thing. You go in, You've got your

1963
01:33:12,973 --> 01:33:14,893
Speaker 2: key in your pocket, you press, press the button, you

1964
01:33:14,973 --> 01:33:15,732
Speaker 2: get in, you get out.

1965
01:33:15,853 --> 01:33:18,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you like the tangible aspect of chucking the

1966
01:33:18,612 --> 01:33:20,973
Speaker 3: key in the ignition, giving it a turn, hearing that

1967
01:33:21,133 --> 01:33:24,133
Speaker 3: motor charge up. It's just it's a beautiful thing to it.

1968
01:33:24,452 --> 01:33:24,652
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1969
01:33:24,692 --> 01:33:26,612
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if I could get chipped, like

1970
01:33:26,772 --> 01:33:28,612
Speaker 2: I just get a chip in my forehead and that

1971
01:33:28,732 --> 01:33:30,852
Speaker 2: opens the car and turns it on, that's great. But

1972
01:33:31,013 --> 01:33:33,293
Speaker 2: just having the doubling up of having so when I

1973
01:33:33,372 --> 01:33:37,612
Speaker 2: get near my car, it's that my car keys have location,

1974
01:33:37,853 --> 01:33:39,893
Speaker 2: so the car opens as I get close and I

1975
01:33:39,933 --> 01:33:41,532
Speaker 2: sit down, I'm like, what am I carrying the stupid

1976
01:33:41,572 --> 01:33:45,213
Speaker 2: key around? For to press the button. It just seems

1977
01:33:45,492 --> 01:33:48,253
Speaker 2: I don't know, it seems superfluous.

1978
01:33:48,973 --> 01:33:51,412
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing that gets me. And I've

1979
01:33:51,452 --> 01:33:54,253
Speaker 3: got a semi new Cara. It had about three years,

1980
01:33:54,612 --> 01:33:57,652
Speaker 3: but digital buttons really annoy me. I thought i'd love it.

1981
01:33:57,732 --> 01:34:00,692
Speaker 3: So everything's digital. I've got my wee little digital front there,

1982
01:34:01,133 --> 01:34:05,732
Speaker 3: but the AC is digital, the radio is digital. I

1983
01:34:05,853 --> 01:34:08,053
Speaker 3: want knobs. I want a physical thing that I can

1984
01:34:08,133 --> 01:34:10,572
Speaker 3: pre down, I can hear it, I can feel it.

1985
01:34:10,973 --> 01:34:12,852
Speaker 3: I just think, well, I go digital. It wasn't needed.

1986
01:34:13,412 --> 01:34:17,652
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Air conditioning touchscreen and air conditioning is so annoying

1987
01:34:17,692 --> 01:34:19,412
Speaker 2: because you're drive along. You don't want to look down

1988
01:34:19,452 --> 01:34:21,532
Speaker 2: at it. You just want to feel over, bang around

1989
01:34:21,572 --> 01:34:23,053
Speaker 2: and turn the air conditioning on.

1990
01:34:23,253 --> 01:34:23,492
Speaker 5: R Yeah.

1991
01:34:23,572 --> 01:34:27,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, that stuff's great. You know when you can control

1992
01:34:27,293 --> 01:34:28,213
Speaker 2: the fan with the dial.

1993
01:34:28,492 --> 01:34:28,772
Speaker 21: Love that.

1994
01:34:29,013 --> 01:34:30,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all gone.

1995
01:34:30,692 --> 01:34:30,893
Speaker 25: You know.

1996
01:34:31,053 --> 01:34:33,013
Speaker 2: One of the great things, though, I think, is just

1997
01:34:33,213 --> 01:34:37,852
Speaker 2: max AC. So I've always driven forwards yea, as my

1998
01:34:37,973 --> 01:34:40,372
Speaker 2: dad always drove Holden, so I decided to drive forwards.

1999
01:34:40,492 --> 01:34:43,532
Speaker 2: Just a bit of rebellion. But just that max a

2000
01:34:43,772 --> 01:34:47,812
Speaker 2: Sea button that was when cars perfected. That was perfection. Yeah,

2001
01:34:47,853 --> 01:34:49,612
Speaker 2: so you could just press that button and just it's

2002
01:34:49,893 --> 01:34:51,732
Speaker 2: super hot, like there has been an Auckland. You get

2003
01:34:51,732 --> 01:34:54,412
Speaker 2: in your car, it's about three hundred degrees in there.

2004
01:34:54,452 --> 01:34:56,173
Speaker 2: You can't touch the steering wheel it's so hot. Just

2005
01:34:56,213 --> 01:34:58,732
Speaker 2: press max AC and it blasts you out the back

2006
01:34:58,772 --> 01:35:01,253
Speaker 2: of the car. Everything goes on falls a call down

2007
01:35:01,293 --> 01:35:01,492
Speaker 2: the car.

2008
01:35:01,772 --> 01:35:03,293
Speaker 3: That's sensible. Everybody needs that.

2009
01:35:03,492 --> 01:35:04,012
Speaker 2: It's perfect.

2010
01:35:04,053 --> 01:35:05,293
Speaker 3: That is design at its best.

2011
01:35:05,412 --> 01:35:07,412
Speaker 2: That's when they should have stopped the innovation. Then, yeah,

2012
01:35:07,452 --> 01:35:09,173
Speaker 2: they've reached peak innovation at that point.

2013
01:35:09,293 --> 01:35:11,253
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. What do

2014
01:35:11,293 --> 01:35:13,653
Speaker 3: you say, is all this sort of stuff just unnecessary

2015
01:35:13,973 --> 01:35:17,252
Speaker 3: design innovation? What do you hate in these modern vehicles?

2016
01:35:17,732 --> 01:35:19,852
Speaker 3: They've tried to be more clever than they perhaps should.

2017
01:35:19,853 --> 01:35:21,012
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

2018
01:35:21,253 --> 01:35:23,692
Speaker 2: The Sex says that this and Navara still has key

2019
01:35:23,732 --> 01:35:25,612
Speaker 2: in the ignition no keiler start, it's a pain in

2020
01:35:25,692 --> 01:35:28,772
Speaker 2: the backside. Yeah, well, KEI to start is a pain

2021
01:35:28,812 --> 01:35:30,333
Speaker 2: in the backside because often you just got your key

2022
01:35:30,372 --> 01:35:32,093
Speaker 2: sitting in your back pocket. It's literally a pain in

2023
01:35:32,133 --> 01:35:32,612
Speaker 2: the backside.

2024
01:35:32,732 --> 01:35:35,892
Speaker 3: Exactly, Come on through O eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

2025
01:35:36,013 --> 01:35:38,452
Speaker 3: What are the things in modern cars that are just

2026
01:35:38,532 --> 01:35:40,652
Speaker 3: not necessary? Love to hear from you. Nine to ninety

2027
01:35:40,652 --> 01:35:43,732
Speaker 3: two is the text as well headlines with Raylene coming up,

2028
01:35:43,812 --> 01:35:45,333
Speaker 3: Stay right here, will be back very soon.

2029
01:35:46,772 --> 01:35:51,012
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2033
01:36:01,772 --> 01:36:04,852
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2034
01:36:04,973 --> 01:36:08,692
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2035
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2036
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2037
01:36:17,853 --> 01:36:21,093
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2038
01:36:21,173 --> 01:36:25,492
Speaker 18: Tartakenna Bay police allege a man now in hospital after

2039
01:36:25,572 --> 01:36:28,892
Speaker 18: being shot by officers this morning, is known for previous

2040
01:36:29,013 --> 01:36:34,052
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2041
01:36:34,372 --> 01:36:37,253
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2042
01:36:37,293 --> 01:36:41,452
Speaker 18: severe weather two weeks ago. The government's ramping up support

2043
01:36:41,532 --> 01:36:45,293
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2044
01:36:45,412 --> 01:36:48,532
Speaker 18: the Today Or Training program as schools kick off the year.

2045
01:36:49,612 --> 01:36:53,372
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2046
01:36:53,452 --> 01:36:55,973
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2047
01:36:56,053 --> 01:36:58,532
Speaker 18: full column at ends in Herald Premium. Now back to

2048
01:36:58,572 --> 01:36:59,772
Speaker 18: Matteath and Tyler Adams.

2049
01:36:59,893 --> 01:37:02,932
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylane. We're talking about unnecessary design,

2050
01:37:03,093 --> 01:37:04,692
Speaker 3: innovation and new vehicles.

2051
01:37:05,572 --> 01:37:08,973
Speaker 2: Absolute bollocks, says Matthew. I'm driving a twin Twinyness and

2052
01:37:09,013 --> 01:37:11,892
Speaker 2: Navara and it has keyless entry and a push button start.

2053
01:37:12,333 --> 01:37:15,293
Speaker 2: I don't think you can get a car. You can't

2054
01:37:15,333 --> 01:37:17,612
Speaker 2: get a new car now that doesn't have a pushback

2055
01:37:17,732 --> 01:37:18,253
Speaker 2: button start.

2056
01:37:18,452 --> 01:37:20,293
Speaker 3: I've never seen one, not for a new vehicle. What's

2057
01:37:20,333 --> 01:37:22,253
Speaker 3: the What was the reason for it? Did they think

2058
01:37:22,293 --> 01:37:24,772
Speaker 3: it was going to be just more efficient for people

2059
01:37:24,853 --> 01:37:26,052
Speaker 3: to just jump in and press a button?

2060
01:37:26,173 --> 01:37:26,372
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2061
01:37:26,372 --> 01:37:28,692
Speaker 2: What is the rationale around that?

2062
01:37:28,973 --> 01:37:30,652
Speaker 3: I mean there might be some security features?

2063
01:37:31,293 --> 01:37:31,692
Speaker 2: Maybe it is.

2064
01:37:31,812 --> 01:37:33,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2065
01:37:34,013 --> 01:37:35,253
Speaker 3: number to call, nineteen nine ten.

2066
01:37:35,293 --> 01:37:36,772
Speaker 2: You know how to hot wire a car? Is it

2067
01:37:36,853 --> 01:37:38,612
Speaker 2: easier to hot wire a car when it has a

2068
01:37:39,452 --> 01:37:40,452
Speaker 2: barrel ignition? Yeah?

2069
01:37:40,532 --> 01:37:40,732
Speaker 5: Come on?

2070
01:37:40,812 --> 01:37:44,772
Speaker 2: Through cars that turn themselves off just as the light

2071
01:37:44,893 --> 01:37:48,412
Speaker 2: goes green er. Yeah, I mean I'm not sure. Maybe

2072
01:37:48,412 --> 01:37:49,732
Speaker 2: there's a feature where I can turn that off of

2073
01:37:49,772 --> 01:37:51,372
Speaker 2: my car, But I don't. When I pull up the lights,

2074
01:37:51,372 --> 01:37:52,213
Speaker 2: it turns the engine off.

2075
01:37:52,652 --> 01:37:52,852
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2076
01:37:53,053 --> 01:37:55,892
Speaker 3: Why that is so frustrating, And that text is completely

2077
01:37:55,973 --> 01:37:57,452
Speaker 3: right that you try and keep it running because you

2078
01:37:57,492 --> 01:37:59,053
Speaker 3: know the light's going to go green. As soon as

2079
01:37:59,053 --> 01:38:00,772
Speaker 3: it goes green, the car decides, now I'm just going

2080
01:38:00,812 --> 01:38:03,133
Speaker 3: to shut off to save some fuel or whatever.

2081
01:38:03,293 --> 01:38:04,333
Speaker 2: You try and keep it running.

2082
01:38:04,772 --> 01:38:06,333
Speaker 3: Just try and keep the foot on the accelerat so

2083
01:38:06,333 --> 01:38:08,133
Speaker 3: I chuck it a neutral and just try and give

2084
01:38:08,173 --> 01:38:10,732
Speaker 3: it some reads to say, don't you bloody shut down

2085
01:38:10,812 --> 01:38:11,892
Speaker 3: now on e gentle minute?

2086
01:38:12,133 --> 01:38:12,293
Speaker 2: Right?

2087
01:38:12,612 --> 01:38:15,892
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you're a weird guy doing that. I certainly

2088
01:38:15,893 --> 01:38:21,612
Speaker 3: am trampis How are you? Yeah? Good mate?

2089
01:38:21,853 --> 01:38:21,973
Speaker 5: Man?

2090
01:38:22,053 --> 01:38:23,053
Speaker 20: Let me turn the radio off?

2091
01:38:23,612 --> 01:38:24,452
Speaker 3: No not, You're all good?

2092
01:38:25,572 --> 01:38:25,892
Speaker 6: All right?

2093
01:38:25,973 --> 01:38:26,133
Speaker 21: Cool?

2094
01:38:26,173 --> 01:38:26,333
Speaker 5: Cool?

2095
01:38:26,412 --> 01:38:26,612
Speaker 12: Cool?

2096
01:38:26,933 --> 01:38:27,133
Speaker 10: Hey?

2097
01:38:27,293 --> 01:38:30,372
Speaker 20: Yeah, this this whole modern day vehicle thing just drives

2098
01:38:30,492 --> 01:38:35,652
Speaker 20: me absolutely crazy, man, with all the features that they've

2099
01:38:35,692 --> 01:38:39,333
Speaker 20: got going on, with all about it breaking telling me

2100
01:38:39,692 --> 01:38:43,492
Speaker 20: that I'm not looking at the road, it's watching me yawn.

2101
01:38:43,732 --> 01:38:47,572
Speaker 20: It tells me that I'm sleepy. It's madness, man. There's

2102
01:38:47,652 --> 01:38:51,612
Speaker 20: more distractions in the vehicle now than there are driving

2103
01:38:51,692 --> 01:38:52,372
Speaker 20: through a college.

2104
01:38:54,973 --> 01:38:56,173
Speaker 2: What do you think are you one of those people?

2105
01:38:56,253 --> 01:39:01,572
Speaker 2: Because you know with reversing cameras and you know, you know,

2106
01:39:01,612 --> 01:39:04,333
Speaker 2: approximately beeping and all that kind of stuff that actually

2107
01:39:04,372 --> 01:39:06,452
Speaker 2: makes you a worse driver, because I think that I

2108
01:39:06,572 --> 01:39:10,092
Speaker 2: think I've lost the ability to reverse without a driving

2109
01:39:10,492 --> 01:39:14,333
Speaker 2: without a reversing camera, I think it's maybe worse driving

2110
01:39:15,732 --> 01:39:16,013
Speaker 2: a y.

2111
01:39:16,452 --> 01:39:19,572
Speaker 20: I'm I'm completely on board with a reversing camera because

2112
01:39:19,732 --> 01:39:22,412
Speaker 20: it makes hooking up my boat to the back of

2113
01:39:22,452 --> 01:39:27,492
Speaker 20: the truck much much easier, and it's made my wife redundant.

2114
01:39:31,933 --> 01:39:34,333
Speaker 20: There's always arguments when the wife tries to hook.

2115
01:39:34,213 --> 01:39:34,652
Speaker 21: Up the boat.

2116
01:39:35,652 --> 01:39:37,772
Speaker 3: I bet, I bet, yeah, Well, I mean.

2117
01:39:41,372 --> 01:39:46,253
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, Mike, I've got a twenty

2118
01:39:46,532 --> 01:39:51,052
Speaker 20: twenty five Mitsubishi Triton. They've got on the steering column

2119
01:39:51,253 --> 01:39:56,572
Speaker 20: a camera that watches me, yeah right, It watches me

2120
01:39:56,692 --> 01:39:59,452
Speaker 20: look left, it watches me look right. You know, it

2121
01:39:59,853 --> 01:40:05,892
Speaker 20: tells me if I'm yawning, anti collision, auto breaking. Where

2122
01:40:06,093 --> 01:40:06,812
Speaker 20: where does it end?

2123
01:40:07,612 --> 01:40:07,812
Speaker 25: Yeah?

2124
01:40:08,093 --> 01:40:10,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how much? Because you know, you when

2125
01:40:10,333 --> 01:40:12,213
Speaker 2: you go to buy a new car, you get all

2126
01:40:12,213 --> 01:40:15,173
Speaker 2: these lists of these exciting new things that's got, and

2127
01:40:15,772 --> 01:40:18,093
Speaker 2: I feel like they have to add things every time

2128
01:40:18,293 --> 01:40:20,052
Speaker 2: just so when you book. Otherwise, why would you upgrade

2129
01:40:20,093 --> 01:40:22,253
Speaker 2: your car. So they're adding things to the list of

2130
01:40:22,333 --> 01:40:25,652
Speaker 2: new exciting specs just so that you get excited enough

2131
01:40:25,652 --> 01:40:27,612
Speaker 2: to buy the car, but you kind of don't end

2132
01:40:27,692 --> 01:40:29,612
Speaker 2: up asking if I really need that. One thing that

2133
01:40:29,652 --> 01:40:34,053
Speaker 2: annoys me, Tramps, is the constantly beeping at me with

2134
01:40:34,053 --> 01:40:34,932
Speaker 2: about the seat belts.

2135
01:40:35,173 --> 01:40:37,492
Speaker 3: That's the worst, isn't it. That shut up?

2136
01:40:37,572 --> 01:40:38,333
Speaker 2: That really annoys me.

2137
01:40:38,973 --> 01:40:40,173
Speaker 3: I know I don't have my seat belt on.

2138
01:40:40,452 --> 01:40:41,652
Speaker 2: I know the rules about seat belts.

2139
01:40:41,692 --> 01:40:44,012
Speaker 3: I'm the driver here. Yeah, I own you. You don't

2140
01:40:44,053 --> 01:40:44,333
Speaker 3: own me.

2141
01:40:44,812 --> 01:40:47,892
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye, most definitely.

2142
01:40:48,013 --> 01:40:48,093
Speaker 26: Ye.

2143
01:40:48,213 --> 01:40:50,812
Speaker 20: That's that's the one Tyler is you know, I own

2144
01:40:50,893 --> 01:40:53,692
Speaker 20: the vehicle. I'm responsible, right, don't judge me.

2145
01:40:54,093 --> 01:40:56,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't judge me car. Yeah, that's it.

2146
01:40:56,973 --> 01:40:59,412
Speaker 3: That's what it all comes down to. It's the card

2147
01:40:59,452 --> 01:41:02,772
Speaker 3: from to take control. Yeah, Tramps, I'll tell you another thing,

2148
01:41:03,532 --> 01:41:05,253
Speaker 3: because when I bought the new car, you're quite right,

2149
01:41:05,293 --> 01:41:06,892
Speaker 3: because they had all these things, and one of them

2150
01:41:07,133 --> 01:41:10,093
Speaker 3: was laying alert. If you went outside of the lane,

2151
01:41:10,133 --> 01:41:12,013
Speaker 3: it would start beeping at you. I'll tell you what.

2152
01:41:12,093 --> 01:41:14,372
Speaker 3: Within the first five hours of driving that car, I

2153
01:41:14,452 --> 01:41:16,492
Speaker 3: switched it off. So I can't handle this because it

2154
01:41:16,532 --> 01:41:18,213
Speaker 3: started to freak out every time that I took a

2155
01:41:18,293 --> 01:41:21,053
Speaker 3: corner slightly too hard. And the other thing is the

2156
01:41:21,093 --> 01:41:24,652
Speaker 3: automatic braking. It comes up and it's actually stung me

2157
01:41:24,692 --> 01:41:26,772
Speaker 3: a couple of times, very dangerous. But it comes up

2158
01:41:26,853 --> 01:41:29,013
Speaker 3: with when I'm driving down a narrow street. It can

2159
01:41:29,093 --> 01:41:30,933
Speaker 3: obviously see a car ahead, parker on the side of

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01:41:30,933 --> 01:41:34,012
Speaker 3: the road, and it comes up with a big break break, break,

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01:41:34,253 --> 01:41:37,333
Speaker 3: right on the dashboard. And one time it's actually slammed

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01:41:37,333 --> 01:41:39,692
Speaker 3: on the anchors on me right when I knew what

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01:41:39,732 --> 01:41:41,692
Speaker 3: I was doing. I could see the car. I might

2164
01:41:41,732 --> 01:41:43,173
Speaker 3: have been gunning it a little bit fast, but I

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01:41:43,293 --> 01:41:45,053
Speaker 3: knew what I was doing. I could swing through those

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01:41:45,093 --> 01:41:46,213
Speaker 3: two cars and nights and easy.

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01:41:46,492 --> 01:41:49,212
Speaker 2: That's a feature I quite like because I'm often reversing

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01:41:49,253 --> 01:41:52,492
Speaker 2: out onto the street and it goes, no, there's a

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01:41:52,532 --> 01:41:54,532
Speaker 2: car coming yeah, And I'm not sure whether I've hit

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01:41:54,612 --> 01:41:58,093
Speaker 2: that car or not, but I haven't seen it. I mean,

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01:41:58,612 --> 01:42:00,253
Speaker 2: I mean, generally, when I pull out on my driveway,

2172
01:42:00,253 --> 01:42:02,053
Speaker 2: don't just fang right on to the other side of

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01:42:02,053 --> 01:42:04,492
Speaker 2: the road, but I do. I don't mind that one.

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01:42:04,532 --> 01:42:05,732
Speaker 2: But it is weird because it will just shove the

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01:42:05,732 --> 01:42:07,612
Speaker 2: brakes on yeah, and you're.

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01:42:07,492 --> 01:42:10,732
Speaker 3: Like what, yeah, oh, one hundred eighty t and eighty

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01:42:10,893 --> 01:42:13,732
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Ninety two nine two useless

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01:42:13,772 --> 01:42:16,372
Speaker 3: to design innovations and modern vehicles. What does your head

2179
01:42:16,412 --> 01:42:17,173
Speaker 3: and love to hear from you?

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01:42:17,293 --> 01:42:20,932
Speaker 1: It is twenty to four Matt Heath and Taylor Adams

2181
01:42:21,053 --> 01:42:22,973
Speaker 1: afternoons taking your calls on.

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01:42:23,173 --> 01:42:25,852
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty with Skoda, can

2183
01:42:25,933 --> 01:42:28,492
Speaker 4: you crack the god? Please go to codes every day

2184
01:42:28,812 --> 01:42:29,772
Speaker 4: news dogs, they'd.

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01:42:29,612 --> 01:42:31,133
Speaker 3: Be seventeen to four.

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01:42:31,333 --> 01:42:33,732
Speaker 2: Hi boys love the show. Not common but lowest spec

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01:42:33,853 --> 01:42:37,172
Speaker 2: models still have keys. Drove a brand new Suzuki Jimney yesterday,

2188
01:42:37,732 --> 01:42:40,372
Speaker 2: had a key. Cheers Jason. I went off rowning in

2189
01:42:40,492 --> 01:42:43,612
Speaker 2: a humble Suzuki Jiminy recently in Rotru.

2190
01:42:43,812 --> 01:42:44,732
Speaker 3: They go hard, don't they.

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01:42:44,933 --> 01:42:48,253
Speaker 2: I love a Jimminy. Yeah, I love a humble Suzuki Jimney.

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01:42:48,333 --> 01:42:52,253
Speaker 2: They're so cool. The boxy yes, little little four wheel

2193
01:42:52,333 --> 01:42:53,932
Speaker 2: drive absolute champs.

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01:42:54,053 --> 01:42:56,293
Speaker 3: They punch above their weight, that's for sure. Oh one

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01:42:56,333 --> 01:42:57,892
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is number to call.

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01:42:58,133 --> 01:43:00,893
Speaker 5: Get a John yours?

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01:43:00,933 --> 01:43:02,173
Speaker 3: Who are you very good?

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01:43:02,452 --> 01:43:02,492
Speaker 8: So?

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01:43:02,572 --> 01:43:05,572
Speaker 3: What do you reckon about this design innovation and new cars?

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01:43:06,933 --> 01:43:07,093
Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:43:07,333 --> 01:43:11,092
Speaker 5: Memes, Yeah, I've had quite a bit of experience getting

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01:43:11,133 --> 01:43:15,053
Speaker 5: into my friends and families cars that are you know

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01:43:15,173 --> 01:43:18,012
Speaker 5: what up there in the twenty twenties and twenty fives

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01:43:18,053 --> 01:43:21,133
Speaker 5: and all that. And I've got a little o sex

2205
01:43:21,253 --> 01:43:24,053
Speaker 5: Forward Focus and it's got all the dials.

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01:43:25,253 --> 01:43:25,893
Speaker 2: Nice like that.

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01:43:27,253 --> 01:43:30,972
Speaker 5: And uh, you know the back doors have wind in windows,

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01:43:31,053 --> 01:43:33,372
Speaker 5: the front are electrics. So because there's hardly anybody in

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01:43:33,412 --> 01:43:34,852
Speaker 5: the beck of your car, so I recommend it's a

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01:43:35,013 --> 01:43:35,572
Speaker 5: great option.

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01:43:36,973 --> 01:43:37,173
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:43:37,213 --> 01:43:39,612
Speaker 2: Think the kids can wind down the windows themselves. They

2213
01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:40,213
Speaker 2: can do some work.

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01:43:40,253 --> 01:43:40,572
Speaker 5: It's good.

2215
01:43:41,812 --> 01:43:45,412
Speaker 3: But the exercise while you're driving, and like all.

2216
01:43:45,372 --> 01:43:48,572
Speaker 5: These new cars, you've got to put up with the

2217
01:43:48,893 --> 01:43:52,053
Speaker 5: entertainment systems in front of you in the console. You

2218
01:43:52,173 --> 01:43:54,612
Speaker 5: can't put all the aftermarket you know, a nice pioneer

2219
01:43:54,732 --> 01:43:56,893
Speaker 5: or a helpine or something in there, you know, like

2220
01:43:57,013 --> 01:43:59,133
Speaker 5: the good old days or sex Forward Focus.

2221
01:43:59,173 --> 01:44:02,812
Speaker 2: I did you ever up those those cast areas that

2222
01:44:02,893 --> 01:44:04,852
Speaker 2: you could you could take out you carry away with

2223
01:44:04,973 --> 01:44:06,333
Speaker 2: your like little handbags.

2224
01:44:07,812 --> 01:44:09,013
Speaker 5: They used to have a handle on them.

2225
01:44:09,013 --> 01:44:11,492
Speaker 3: You put the whole did you eat case that you

2226
01:44:11,612 --> 01:44:13,812
Speaker 3: talk with you, Yeah, the whole.

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01:44:13,692 --> 01:44:15,652
Speaker 5: Case in there, or even you take the face off

2228
01:44:15,692 --> 01:44:18,612
Speaker 5: you know your But there was another thing you were

2229
01:44:18,612 --> 01:44:23,612
Speaker 5: talking about with their safety, about bing yeah, well this

2230
01:44:23,772 --> 01:44:25,812
Speaker 5: one had that, and I went, oh no, So I

2231
01:44:25,973 --> 01:44:29,213
Speaker 5: went online everywhere, couldn't find it to turn it off,

2232
01:44:29,293 --> 01:44:31,492
Speaker 5: you know, there was no option. So I just there

2233
01:44:31,572 --> 01:44:34,812
Speaker 5: was two screws into the instrument truster and I put

2234
01:44:34,893 --> 01:44:36,893
Speaker 5: that out and I saw the little thing and I

2235
01:44:36,973 --> 01:44:38,772
Speaker 5: listened to it. That was going bing bing bing. I'll

2236
01:44:38,772 --> 01:44:41,333
Speaker 5: put some blue tech over it. It was. It was

2237
01:44:41,652 --> 01:44:42,852
Speaker 5: like my newt outlet was.

2238
01:44:46,532 --> 01:44:48,173
Speaker 3: That's better, Yeah, much better.

2239
01:44:48,692 --> 01:44:51,293
Speaker 5: And oh you could you could you have to listen

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Speaker 5: for it to hear it, you know, yeah.

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01:44:54,973 --> 01:44:55,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, just find it.

2242
01:44:56,492 --> 01:44:58,412
Speaker 2: Won't put my seat bet on and just find where

2243
01:44:58,412 --> 01:44:59,412
Speaker 2: that thing is coming from.

2244
01:44:59,492 --> 01:45:03,972
Speaker 5: And on the instrument truster. It's on the instrument trusted

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01:45:04,053 --> 01:45:07,053
Speaker 5: nineteen percent of the time. And like when I had

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01:45:07,133 --> 01:45:10,973
Speaker 5: my FG Falcon to turn that off, you unplugged and

2247
01:45:11,133 --> 01:45:14,173
Speaker 5: ploned and unplugged the seatbelt more in times and would

2248
01:45:14,173 --> 01:45:15,692
Speaker 5: turn that seat belt reminder off.

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01:45:16,772 --> 01:45:19,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of admin. It is a lot

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Speaker 3: of admind.

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01:45:19,572 --> 01:45:22,372
Speaker 2: Thanks John, appreciate it. The six says, hey, guys, there's

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01:45:22,372 --> 01:45:25,812
Speaker 2: normally a button somewhere to switch off the eestop engines

2253
01:45:25,893 --> 01:45:28,772
Speaker 2: switching off function, or if you activate the front window

2254
01:45:29,652 --> 01:45:32,412
Speaker 2: demest it automately turns off the I stop function for

2255
01:45:32,532 --> 01:45:35,932
Speaker 2: safety windows. If you activate the front window dimster. Interesting,

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01:45:36,532 --> 01:45:38,372
Speaker 2: why would that be for safety reason?

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01:45:38,492 --> 01:45:40,973
Speaker 3: I've got no idea. I mean, that's far easier than

2258
01:45:41,053 --> 01:45:43,012
Speaker 3: just whacking it neutral and giving it some gas.

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01:45:43,372 --> 01:45:43,572
Speaker 5: See.

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Speaker 2: The problem with me is that I will be annoyed

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01:45:47,333 --> 01:45:49,852
Speaker 2: by something in the car, but by the time I

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01:45:49,893 --> 01:45:51,412
Speaker 2: get there, I forget about it, so I never look

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01:45:51,412 --> 01:45:52,933
Speaker 2: it up, and then I'm backing the car again, and

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01:45:52,973 --> 01:45:55,372
Speaker 2: I'm annoyed again, and I'm not going to get the

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01:45:55,452 --> 01:45:57,692
Speaker 2: manual out and have a lot, you know what I mean?

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01:45:57,772 --> 01:46:00,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, every time, baby, you know, like like old

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01:46:00,572 --> 01:46:03,053
Speaker 3: John before I taken the screws off the dashboard to

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01:46:03,093 --> 01:46:05,093
Speaker 3: try and find the beeper. I don't know if I've

2269
01:46:05,093 --> 01:46:06,652
Speaker 3: got the skills to do that. I'm going to wreck

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01:46:06,692 --> 01:46:08,253
Speaker 3: the car if I try and start pulling it open.

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01:46:09,893 --> 01:46:12,812
Speaker 2: The sixers say, is there will be there's something. There'll

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01:46:12,812 --> 01:46:14,612
Speaker 2: be a button on your deskboard somewhere that you can

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01:46:14,652 --> 01:46:16,053
Speaker 2: push so you get your car doesn't want to be

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01:46:16,093 --> 01:46:17,772
Speaker 2: shut down when you're at the lights. Okay, I've got

2275
01:46:17,853 --> 01:46:18,692
Speaker 2: to do that. I've got to get rid of that

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01:46:18,812 --> 01:46:21,772
Speaker 2: blood annoying Hi guys, the twenty twenty six to ot

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01:46:21,893 --> 01:46:24,253
Speaker 2: high as vand has a key start. My husband is

2278
01:46:24,253 --> 01:46:28,492
Speaker 2: bloody stoked about that. None of this fancy sheet, he says,

2279
01:46:29,452 --> 01:46:32,253
Speaker 2: although it does have electric windows, not like has old

2280
01:46:32,333 --> 01:46:33,852
Speaker 2: work horse. That's from care thinking you.

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01:46:33,893 --> 01:46:37,333
Speaker 3: Text one hundred and eighty ten eighties number of cool Steve,

2282
01:46:38,372 --> 01:46:40,173
Speaker 3: how are you matey?

2283
01:46:40,253 --> 01:46:40,412
Speaker 19: Good?

2284
01:46:40,492 --> 01:46:40,812
Speaker 4: Thanks?

2285
01:46:41,692 --> 01:46:43,492
Speaker 27: I'm not really sure how these people that can plain

2286
01:46:43,492 --> 01:46:46,493
Speaker 27: about technology, they sort of shot like bloodlights.

2287
01:46:46,612 --> 01:46:49,612
Speaker 28: Probably get rid of the horse for that.

2288
01:46:51,652 --> 01:46:55,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring back the horse, horse and cart that was arms.

2289
01:46:56,452 --> 01:46:56,692
Speaker 2: Let's go.

2290
01:46:57,293 --> 01:46:58,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, no beeping if you don't wear your seat, bet

2291
01:46:59,013 --> 01:46:59,412
Speaker 3: on the horse.

2292
01:47:01,173 --> 01:47:04,772
Speaker 28: Okay, just walk up to it so your phone turned on.

2293
01:47:04,933 --> 01:47:07,772
Speaker 28: Over the door, get them push fun button. I'm away.

2294
01:47:08,372 --> 01:47:11,572
Speaker 28: When I stopped, just over the door, walk away, hands

2295
01:47:11,612 --> 01:47:14,053
Speaker 28: it off, locks the door, puts the security on them

2296
01:47:14,732 --> 01:47:17,452
Speaker 28: to do anything. My problem is that when I drive

2297
01:47:17,572 --> 01:47:20,892
Speaker 28: my album, especially my times have walked door, it's rolled.

2298
01:47:20,772 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 5: Down the hill.

2299
01:47:21,572 --> 01:47:24,652
Speaker 28: I've got to put my handbrake on. I had all

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01:47:24,692 --> 01:47:29,293
Speaker 28: these safety versions features. I can to them, mark to

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01:47:29,412 --> 01:47:31,253
Speaker 28: them off. I can give things beeping or not paper

2302
01:47:31,293 --> 01:47:32,492
Speaker 28: and I can, but I'm begging.

2303
01:47:32,532 --> 01:47:33,333
Speaker 21: I can turn that off.

2304
01:47:33,412 --> 01:47:33,652
Speaker 9: I can.

2305
01:47:34,492 --> 01:47:39,092
Speaker 12: Yeah, all my feature are options optional?

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01:47:40,093 --> 01:47:42,772
Speaker 28: Again by can't en up right, and I just get

2307
01:47:43,532 --> 01:47:44,572
Speaker 28: I've got a software.

2308
01:47:44,612 --> 01:47:46,732
Speaker 5: I get you, Cameron Engle, So what are you driving?

2309
01:47:46,853 --> 01:47:47,812
Speaker 2: What are you driving? State?

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01:47:48,772 --> 01:47:53,012
Speaker 27: Yeah, probably get tripped for this, but it's Ladders model.

2311
01:47:53,053 --> 01:47:54,132
Speaker 12: Why Tesla?

2312
01:47:54,452 --> 01:47:57,732
Speaker 2: Why would you get shut of that's rule there?

2313
01:47:57,772 --> 01:48:00,213
Speaker 27: Well, this has got the most partum out there at the.

2314
01:48:00,213 --> 01:48:02,093
Speaker 12: Moment I drive that, I think.

2315
01:48:02,173 --> 01:48:04,572
Speaker 2: I think they moved on from that. The people getting

2316
01:48:04,612 --> 01:48:07,012
Speaker 2: upset about Tesla's they couldn't quite remember why they've forgotten,

2317
01:48:07,013 --> 01:48:08,932
Speaker 2: and then they've moved on and everyone's one with them again.

2318
01:48:09,013 --> 01:48:10,293
Speaker 3: Freaking ou about Greenland Now.

2319
01:48:10,412 --> 01:48:13,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's about about five things down the track of

2320
01:48:13,492 --> 01:48:14,732
Speaker 2: freaking out about now from there.

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01:48:14,772 --> 01:48:18,253
Speaker 27: One okay, I drive a self drive one two months aback,

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01:48:18,812 --> 01:48:23,732
Speaker 27: but put the destination and then off it went up

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01:48:24,133 --> 01:48:27,572
Speaker 27: up to the traffic light, put put us indicator on

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01:48:27,732 --> 01:48:31,333
Speaker 27: to the left of the motorway, moveing the lane by

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01:48:31,412 --> 01:48:33,053
Speaker 27: the car in front of us. Two slows that put

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01:48:33,133 --> 01:48:36,892
Speaker 27: us inticat on past it, saw the off rep got

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01:48:36,973 --> 01:48:37,293
Speaker 27: the off.

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01:48:37,293 --> 01:48:39,172
Speaker 21: Reap to roundabout roundabout.

2329
01:48:39,532 --> 01:48:41,652
Speaker 28: So if the whole thing was I went from.

2330
01:48:43,093 --> 01:48:45,013
Speaker 12: From Johnsonville to.

2331
01:48:46,652 --> 01:48:48,933
Speaker 28: My fail with Willington, put up the motorway to some

2332
01:48:49,053 --> 01:48:49,572
Speaker 28: place up.

2333
01:48:51,652 --> 01:48:53,093
Speaker 12: Much anything the whole way.

2334
01:48:53,412 --> 01:48:56,452
Speaker 28: Let's just imagine the only one when I got a.

2335
01:48:56,492 --> 01:49:01,892
Speaker 27: Tea judge that waited quite a bit to Claire aging

2336
01:49:01,973 --> 01:49:03,733
Speaker 27: to turn off because it's opportunities.

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01:49:06,253 --> 01:49:08,812
Speaker 2: Oh well, just lost them. Steve got shut down by

2338
01:49:08,812 --> 01:49:09,812
Speaker 2: the anti Tesla the grade.

2339
01:49:09,933 --> 01:49:13,013
Speaker 3: Yeah we're listening, he go out. We can't have you

2340
01:49:13,253 --> 01:49:14,693
Speaker 3: talking with things about Tesla.

2341
01:49:14,492 --> 01:49:16,293
Speaker 2: Since I remembered about that, they remembered what they were

2342
01:49:16,333 --> 01:49:19,093
Speaker 2: angry about seven things ago, and there there back back

2343
01:49:19,133 --> 01:49:21,812
Speaker 2: on board. But I'm with Steve that that is great.

2344
01:49:22,213 --> 01:49:25,492
Speaker 2: The idea of my thing is just the key and

2345
01:49:25,652 --> 01:49:29,293
Speaker 2: the button. Yeah, it seems silly. I love the idea

2346
01:49:29,293 --> 01:49:31,692
Speaker 2: of the key being on your phone and the proximity

2347
01:49:31,692 --> 01:49:33,532
Speaker 2: of your phone like a Tesla. I think that's a

2348
01:49:33,572 --> 01:49:36,293
Speaker 2: great innovation. The only thing I'm coming about is having

2349
01:49:36,372 --> 01:49:38,612
Speaker 2: both up. Where have you got this useless key?

2350
01:49:38,772 --> 01:49:38,972
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2351
01:49:39,093 --> 01:49:41,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you just that you get into the car,

2352
01:49:41,692 --> 01:49:44,692
Speaker 2: pluk it down in your drinks holder, and then get

2353
01:49:44,692 --> 01:49:46,133
Speaker 2: out of the car forget to get it get back in.

2354
01:49:46,253 --> 01:49:48,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not much logic there, all right. Oh, one

2355
01:49:48,452 --> 01:49:51,093
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call back.

2356
01:49:51,253 --> 01:49:51,972
Speaker 3: Very shortly.

2357
01:49:52,532 --> 01:49:54,572
Speaker 2: Tyler and Matt, have you tried reading your handbook to

2358
01:49:54,973 --> 01:49:57,572
Speaker 2: turn off the econ econo stop?

2359
01:49:57,812 --> 01:49:57,852
Speaker 25: No?

2360
01:49:57,973 --> 01:50:00,852
Speaker 2: I will never I promise you, I will never read

2361
01:50:01,013 --> 01:50:03,612
Speaker 2: the instruction manual for anything that I'm involved with in

2362
01:50:03,692 --> 01:50:07,053
Speaker 2: my life. There, that's my that's my eye inclad guarantee.

2363
01:50:08,612 --> 01:50:12,013
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2364
01:50:12,333 --> 01:50:13,293
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2365
01:50:13,532 --> 01:50:16,733
Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks.

2366
01:50:16,652 --> 01:50:21,732
Speaker 3: B News talks it B. It is seven to four.

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01:50:22,652 --> 01:50:26,173
Speaker 3: I'm not going to ramble on jan How are you.

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01:50:28,053 --> 01:50:28,253
Speaker 21: Good?

2369
01:50:28,973 --> 01:50:29,133
Speaker 25: Now?

2370
01:50:29,372 --> 01:50:32,932
Speaker 3: You love you? Yeah? Please, you are.

2371
01:50:34,412 --> 01:50:37,532
Speaker 22: Don't read the manual. It's a button that's got an

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01:50:37,652 --> 01:50:40,533
Speaker 22: A on it with a circle around it, and underneath

2373
01:50:40,532 --> 01:50:43,372
Speaker 22: it it says off but off.

2374
01:50:44,452 --> 01:50:45,772
Speaker 2: I've always wonder what that button does.

2375
01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:50,013
Speaker 22: That's what it does, okay, and you know what you

2376
01:50:50,133 --> 01:50:53,293
Speaker 22: actually want that on anywhere because it saves petrol.

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Speaker 2: What kind of car do you drive, Jen Scoder?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Great car, yeah, beautiful Scoter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they are, yeah, excellent vehicles of the Skoda. Matt

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Speaker 2: never never look at the manual. What about Lego snap?

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Speaker 2: Taylor says that text to tailor.

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Speaker 3: That is a fun manual though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always all about my lego manuals. Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: word about Luddites, guys. They were never anti technology. They

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Speaker 2: were anti people losing their jobs and therefore the ability

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Speaker 2: to feed their families as a result of technology. Not yelling,

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Speaker 2: just emphasizing. Cheers Kate. Yeah, the Luddites people, forget about

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Speaker 2: that was about eighteen early eighteen tens. They were complaining

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Speaker 2: about the machinery and the cotton and woolen factories all

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Speaker 2: the way back.

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Speaker 3: Then, and they wrote a note, didn't they signed the

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Speaker 3: ludd oats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they were went around destroying the machinery. So

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Speaker 2: it's been some of this same thing going on earth, ai,

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Speaker 2: aren't we. We've been complaining about the machines for the

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Speaker 2: longest time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, things never change, right. A fantastic discussion. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much to everyone who text and called on

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you so much for listening today. That

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Speaker 2: brings us to the end of another edition of Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoons on News Talks. It'd be the wonderful

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Speaker 2: and powerful hitherdop of c Ellen is up next. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back tomorrow live from twelve.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 2: But Taylor Taylor. Taylor was the Texter You and Tyler,

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Speaker 2: aren't you?

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Speaker 3: I am Tyler Tyler?

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Speaker 2: Why would I be playing Why would I be playing

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Speaker 2: this song for myself?

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Speaker 3: Auto tune Great Southern Land Because we had a good

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Speaker 3: chat about New Zealand potentially becoming the seventh state of Australia.

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Speaker 3: I assume I going to say there was a few

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Speaker 3: people saying there could be some benefits, but the last

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Speaker 3: caller made a good point that we're going to get

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Speaker 3: we gotta back ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I was with b in Ashley. Now,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand needs to stop trying to buddy up to

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Speaker 2: Australia and just be powerful and proud of ourselves. We

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Speaker 2: were a great nation. We need to cut our own path.

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Speaker 2: We need to become more and more powerful. We need

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Speaker 2: to take Greenland for ourselves.

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Speaker 3: A great idea.

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Speaker 2: All right, then you seem busy, will let you go?

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Speaker 3: Love you until tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna taste the Key with from.

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Speaker 4: Us Matt and Tyler.

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