1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Devin Gray, UK correspondent with US. Now, hey, Gevin, Hi 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: there Heather. Right, So if you've been convicted of a crime, 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: is it possible that you might not end up you 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: might be you might end up being unable to go 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: to a power, a concert or sports match. This is 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: what the government are looking at. Yes, So non custodial 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: terms is the thing, in other words, where a court 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: imposes a sentence which is in a prison sentence, And 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: the reforms that the government is looking at here in 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the UK are effectively going to give those courts more 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: power to hand out things like driving and travel bans, 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: as well as offenders being told to remain in specific areas. 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: And that could mean yeah, that they can't go driving, 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: that they can't go abroad traveling, and also that in 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: certain certain circumstances it's thought that that might be a 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: ban on pubs, concerts and sports matches, things that matter 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: to certain people and therefore they will think potentially twice 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: is the theory about committing a crime. There was a 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: review of a sentencing policy recently which came out recommending 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: fewer custodial sentences for less serious offenses. Why we have 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: got massively overcrowded presidence here, they're simply out of capacity. 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: So we've already been reporting, haven't we, on how some 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: prisoners are being released earlier through their sentences, And now 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: we're getting this idea that fewer people are going to 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: be sent to prison in the first place. Everyone is 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: not comfortable with this, but I think you do hear 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: of a number of people who have been sentenced to prison, 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: you think is that really the best way to have 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: dealt with them? So I see France's upset with Charles Koshner. Yeah, 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: very upset. And this is all over a letter, an 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: open letter that he wrote in the Wall Street Journal. 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: It was a letter, an open letter that he wrote 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: to the French president Emmanuel Macron, in which he basically 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: criticized France for failing to tackle a surgeon anti Semitism. Now, 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: of course, the name is very familiar, Charles Kushner. He 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: is the father of the US Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka, 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: and sorry, his son is married to Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka. 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: And Charles Kushner is also the US ambassador to Paris, 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: and Kushner said there had been an explosion of hatred 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: towards Jews in France since the war in Gaza began, 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: and he carried on really criticizing pretty much in this 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: letter what had been going on, said that he stood 43 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: ready to work with Emmanuel Macron and other French leaders 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: to forge a serious plan to tackle it. In France, 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: he said, and I quote, not a day passes without 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Jews assaulted in the streets, synagogues or schools defaced, or 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: Jewish owned businesses vandalized. Your own Interior ministry has reported 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: anti Semitic incidents, even at preschools. And he said it's 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: not good enough. France isn't doing enough to stop this, 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: and Macron has got very very upset and annoyed, so 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: they've summoned the US ambassador for those talks. Be very 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: interesting to be a fly on the wall. There is 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: he right or wrong? Well, I'm afraid to say that, 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: along with the UK and other European countries, we are 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: seeing a rise in anti Semitic crime owing to the 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: fact that people are so infuriated about what's happening in Gaza, 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: and many do not believe the Israeli States official verdict 58 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: of the getting food supplies in and that said, our 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: France doing enough, you know, It's one of those things 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: that is very difficult, isn't it, to try and stamp 61 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: out and stop. But the idea that I think France 62 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: is doing nothing is very unfair. It's possible that they 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: just perhaps aren't putting enough effort into finding those responsible 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: for some of these incidents of vandalism. Yeah, hey, thank 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: you very much Kevin for running us through that. It's 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: given great UK correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: listen live to news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 68 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeart Radio