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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed to

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Speaker 1: intrigue and use togs, Dead b Welling a.

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Speaker 2: Wile come to day New dato on the jobs to run.

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Speaker 2: So I cannot be a glass half full or empty.

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Speaker 2: The Australian budget has to be seen to be believed.

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Speaker 2: We got gang trouble in Gize because Hipkins on whether

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Speaker 2: he wants to cooperate with the government on this RMA reform.

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Speaker 2: Mark and Jinny do the politics after the rate, of course,

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold and the States and Sea Priest in Australia Posky.

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Speaker 2: Middle of the week, seven past six. Here we go

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Speaker 2: now Village Road Show, who are no small player in

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Speaker 2: the movie industry. Of course, this week filed for chapter eleven.

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Speaker 2: They've been having some legal troubles or issues with another

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Speaker 2: major studio. But they also cited along with that their

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Speaker 2: other overriding problem, the actors strike. You remember that it

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Speaker 2: was more than actors, of course, it was the whole

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Speaker 2: of the industry. Hollywood came to a great, big grinding

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Speaker 2: stop for months as they argued over pain conditions. Some

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Speaker 2: of the pain conditions were based around what was seen

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Speaker 2: at the time as this frightening new development called AI

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Speaker 2: that was potentially going to slash their work and income.

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Speaker 2: They wanted protections. It was eventually settled, but and here's

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Speaker 2: the really big question, at what cost. Hollywood has never

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Speaker 2: come back. The movie industry has never really been the

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Speaker 2: same again, irony of ironies. A lot of people lost

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Speaker 2: their jobs, not because of AI, but because they never

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Speaker 2: recovered from the shuttering as a result of the strike.

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Speaker 2: So given fewer movies were made, less income was generated,

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Speaker 2: and so the vicious cycle began until someone like Village

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Speaker 2: Road Show could no longer go on, so they folded

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Speaker 2: for chapter eleven. Chapter eleven. If you don't know, by

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Speaker 2: the way, it's not the end. It can be the end,

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Speaker 2: But initially it's about some protection to get some affairs

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Speaker 2: in order and potentially get a rescuer. The lesson here

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Speaker 2: is this unionism, which is what this is. I mean, Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: in the film and television industry is heavily unionized. As

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Speaker 2: one of those ideas that once upon a time might

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Speaker 2: have made a modicum of sense, But as the world

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Speaker 2: and the workplace has changed and got increasingly sophisticated now

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Speaker 2: presents as an old idea that basically does more harm

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Speaker 2: than good. So they go on strike. The multimillionaire actors,

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Speaker 2: of course backed them. Food parcels are handed out, they

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Speaker 2: pound the picket line. They eventually cut a deal. Is

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Speaker 2: that good? Well not if you then go and lose

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Speaker 2: your job? Not of the studio then goes and files

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Speaker 2: for chapter eleven. What's the point of that? What would

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Speaker 2: you rather have more money for fewer people or more people?

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Speaker 2: Because that's what unidism does. So was the strike a

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Speaker 2: win or a path to joblessness and business ruin? And

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon? Village Road Show would.

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Speaker 1: Say News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: On the good day for the Trumpets in Washington as

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Speaker 2: they trying to find the way out of a group

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Speaker 2: chat gate.

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Speaker 3: Did you participate in the group chat with Secutuary of

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Speaker 3: Defense and other Trump senior officials discussing the m and

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Speaker 3: war plans?

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Speaker 4: Senator I don't want to get into this, man, Mam.

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Speaker 5: Were you on?

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Speaker 6: You're not going to be willing to conversation, so you're

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Speaker 6: not are you denying?

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Speaker 2: You were not TG on this group chat? There was

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Speaker 2: Tulsa Gabbitt TG running Defense at the Center's Intelligence Committee,

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Speaker 2: the Dems reveling in it.

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Speaker 7: It is by the grace of God that one of

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Speaker 7: those enemies didn't alert the Hooties in advance so that

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Speaker 7: they could reconfigure their anti aircraft assets. And had they

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Speaker 7: done that, we would be looking at dead pilots right now.

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Speaker 7: That's how serious what this administration did.

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Speaker 2: Is The committee hearing, by the way, also had a

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Speaker 2: few Palestinian activists tune up.

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Speaker 6: Speak up now if you want to be removed as well.

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Speaker 6: Whoever's saying that, if anyone else would like to join them,

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Speaker 6: speak now, please that we don't have any more disruptions.

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Speaker 2: While we're in the states of the deportation scrap between

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Speaker 2: the administration and the court's roles on former ag Bill

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Speaker 8: The Constitution gives the President the power to make the

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Speaker 8: judgments about how we deal with foreign nationals when we

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Speaker 8: are animated by national security concerns. It's his call, not

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Speaker 8: a district court judge's call.

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Speaker 2: As regards the war, we've got to break through of

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Speaker 2: thoughts as both Russians and the Ukrainians agree to the

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Speaker 2: Black Sea cease fire. Although agreement and doing a two

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Speaker 2: different things.

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Speaker 9: Russia has a history of never ever being able to

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Speaker 9: keep any international agreement, so therefore I don't really have

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Speaker 9: one hundred percent hope from Maddie are going to do

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Speaker 9: this this time in Greenland.

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Speaker 2: W Barns and her mate's pending visitors still racking up

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Speaker 2: the Europeans.

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Speaker 10: Guests coming there are in a way disturbing, but of

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Speaker 10: course green and Denmark to the Kingdom is a free

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Speaker 10: country and we received the guest.

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Speaker 11: But we found this message quad in Predad.

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Speaker 2: Finally, bad news for the UFO was a bit of

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Speaker 2: excited from the tin hatters when they saw a large

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Speaker 2: glowing spiral that lit up the skies in Britain earlier

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Speaker 2: on this week. Turns out it was a SpaceX rocket.

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Speaker 2: It's frozen exhaust bloom spitting away in the atmosphere and

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Speaker 2: reflecting slight. So maybe next time that's news of the

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Speaker 2: world in ninety year. Donald Trump, he's backed Waltz, says

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Speaker 2: Waltz is a good man. Leek was a bit of

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Speaker 2: a glitch. Gabbard, meantime, says there was no classified material

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Speaker 2: shared in the signal chat, so they're working pretty hard

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Speaker 2: to try and host that one down. Richard Arnold with

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Speaker 2: us in about half an hour's time. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio call

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Speaker 2: Talksp government has been a viscerated across the Tasman rightly

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Speaker 2: by the headlines this morning of the budget. What a

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Speaker 2: laugh that was, But I'll tell you more about it later.

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Speaker 2: Labor didn't expect to deliver this budget, says the headline.

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Speaker 2: That's why they had no good material left. Headline number

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Speaker 2: two surprise top tax cutter is enough for a cup

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Speaker 2: of coffee in a brazen pitch of the votes. Headline

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Speaker 2: number three. This government is timid, uninspired and uninspiring. This

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Speaker 2: budget fits it perfectly. Fifteen Class six. Although Laura Charmer's,

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Speaker 2: the wife of the Treasure, had turned up in appropriate

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Speaker 2: deemed unacceptable. So this year she splashed out three hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty on a nice Mossman piece. Where was I

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Speaker 2: Andrew kellaher Joe my Wealth, Good morning morning, Mike Jobs.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I wanted to talk about the state of play

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Speaker 12: of the local employment markets, because we had yesterday, we

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Speaker 12: had a couple of lenses into that part of the economy.

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Speaker 12: So firstly, the B and Z Seek Employment Report that's

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Speaker 12: released monthly, so it's a high frequency piece of data,

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Speaker 12: looks at job ads and demand for staff or job

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Speaker 12: ads declined one point eight percent in February, and that

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Speaker 12: follows a bit of a lift in January. And Mike,

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Speaker 12: I think this is really reflecting what we're seeing in

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Speaker 12: other data series as well that have displayed what we're

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Speaker 12: referring to at the moment is a choppy pattern. But

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Speaker 12: if you sort of take the if you take it

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Speaker 12: sort of a slightly bigger picture of view. Compared to

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Speaker 12: a year ago, the data series is reporting about seventeen

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Speaker 12: percent fewer job ads. So fewer job ads means fewer

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Speaker 12: companies are looking for staff, which equals a weaker employment market.

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Speaker 12: But let's find the silver lining. The pace of decline

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Speaker 12: is slowing. That's also consistent with other data series, and

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Speaker 12: I think it's suggesting that the local economy is stabilizing.

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Speaker 12: It's potentially turning, but it's not exactly frothy.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 12: The actual numbers are sort of small here, but not

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Speaker 12: West Coast is experiencing good employment growth.

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Speaker 2: It's on top of the ladder.

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Speaker 12: My interest is peaked by the month and month change

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Speaker 12: that we're also seeing in Canterbury and Southland. They sort

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Speaker 12: of run us up in terms of growth, and we've

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Speaker 12: talked regularly about the feel being better in the South

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Speaker 12: Island and also arguably places where the strong rural economy

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Speaker 12: Mining is the key driver of West Coast employment growth.

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Speaker 12: I mean authors of the report, they refer to the

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Speaker 12: areas of the economy where the PM has said he

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Speaker 12: expects to which he expects to support growth. Mining resources

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Speaker 12: is one of those, so job ads in that sector

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Speaker 12: are well ahead of last year. A couple of others

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Speaker 12: hospitality and tourism. While hospital and touring job ads are

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Speaker 12: and technology, and there is very little.

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Speaker 2: Going on there.

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Speaker 12: In fact, job ads are eighteen and a half percent

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Speaker 12: lower than last year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then we come to the confidence, which doesn't

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Speaker 2: worry me because this is tail and stuff, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: So if the economy is coming right, jobs will come

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Speaker 2: right eventually as well. The labor market. The last thing

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Speaker 12: But employment's confidence actually at the moment doesn't It doesn't

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Speaker 12: look very good at least that's the takeaway from the

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Speaker 12: latest west Pac mcdermald Miller employment confidence report for the

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Speaker 12: point six to eighty eight point three. Now I get

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Speaker 12: what you're saying. I hear that, But the problem we've

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Speaker 12: So yes, it is the last thing to turn, but

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Speaker 12: it's coming from a pretty low base. So we've given

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Speaker 2: We saw in the December quarter.

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Speaker 12: The current Employment Conditions index was actually even weaker, eight

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Speaker 12: to two point eight down to seventy five point three,

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Speaker 12: so falling seven and a half points. What this is

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Speaker 12: telling us, Mike, is that employment conditions are still pretty subdued.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we're pretty sure that the economic milieu is improving,

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Speaker 12: but it's not a seismic shift. On Friday, we get

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Speaker 12: so actual real data from IRD that should also show

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Speaker 12: that the number of filled jobs is stabilizing. But right now, Mike,

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Speaker 12: we aren't getting unequivocal signs that the improved business confidence

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Speaker 12: is translating into improved job opportunities. Not yet anyway.

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Speaker 13: As with the.

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Speaker 12: Other report, I talked about this big regional variation alpens

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Speaker 12: a bit grim and that has a clear effect on

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Speaker 12: a national average most regions, the same jobs are hard

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Speaker 12: to find. But unsurprisingly, Mike, if you're looking at earnings growth,

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Speaker 12: where we were seeing earnings growth in those regions that have

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Speaker 12: got you know, that are farming intensive, so they are

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Speaker 12: the places to be at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I need some numbers.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, not much going on. Actually, the Dow Jones is

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Speaker 12: down sort of twenty eight points, which is point zero

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Speaker 12: seventy percent, so i'd call that flat forty two thousand,

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Speaker 12: five hundred and fifty five. The S and P five

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Speaker 12: hundreds up seven or eight points. Again, only a small

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Speaker 12: a little bit bitter. It's up just over a quarter

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Speaker 12: percent eighteen thousand, two hundred and forty overnight. The fort

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Speaker 2: So this stuff you've done so far, is it enough

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Speaker 2: find plenty of opportunities to live life the way you

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Speaker 2: want with those projects amongst like minded people. Now to

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Speaker 2: find your nearest Avida Living Well community and book a

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Speaker 2: tour and you want, you might want to do more

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Speaker 2: co dot m Z asking Tony Kurra, Mike spoke so well,

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Speaker 2: straight up on us view from a clearly very capable officer.

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Speaker 2: Great to hear if I was Minister of Police, Mike Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: as with us after it. I'll be listening to that

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Speaker 2: thinking man. We got a good police force in this country, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Police are doing their jobs cracking down on the gangs.

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Speaker 2: It's the courts and the judges letting the offenders straight

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Speaker 2: back out into the community. That's the old argument, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: Fourteen to two International correspondence with Enzen Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 16: of Mind for New Zealand business side.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, Very good morning, Hey Mike, so standing behind Waltz.

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Speaker 2: But what a mess?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm here to say the same word a story.

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Speaker 17: The Trump team really is scrambling try and tramp down

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Speaker 17: the scandal over the use of thismmercial app called Signal

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Speaker 17: Chat to share details of their plans to attack the

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Speaker 17: hooties in Yemen the other day, back in the middle

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Speaker 17: of March. This was the group chat involving the Defense

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Speaker 17: Secretary here, the head of the CIA, the National Security Advisor,

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Speaker 17: the Vice President, the president's chief of staff, the Secretary

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Speaker 17: of State, the Director of National Intelligence, and also someone.

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Speaker 2: Identified as JG. Well, who the heck is JG?

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Speaker 17: They might have asked, but they did not, and it

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Speaker 17: turned out to be a top reporter, journalist, the boss

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Speaker 17: of the Atlantic magazine, Jeffrey Goldberg. You know, the US

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Speaker 17: National Security team has systems for these discussions, for war planning.

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Speaker 17: They have classified communications, They have security shifts where skips

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Speaker 17: where the phones are surrendered, and they go into these

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Speaker 17: top security areas which are protected from international spying. Jeffrey

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Speaker 17: Goldberg says he thought he was being hoaxed when messages

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Speaker 17: started through with details of the pending attack on Yemen.

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Speaker 17: He says when the final details were added by Defense

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Speaker 17: Secretary Pete Hegseth, he was sitting in his car outside

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Speaker 17: of the grocery store and coming to the recognition that hey,

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Speaker 17: this was real.

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Speaker 2: It was not a scam.

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Speaker 17: Some are saying this could be a violation of the

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Speaker 17: Espionage Act. What went on with this chat? When Trump

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Speaker 17: was asked about it, he did the usual attacking the

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Speaker 17: media and the Atlantic journal.

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Speaker 18: I don't know anything about I'm not a big fan

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Speaker 18: of the Atlantic. It's to me it's a magazine that's

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Speaker 18: going out of business.

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Speaker 17: Ah. Yeah, that's what he often says about what NBCCBSABC,

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Speaker 17: New York Times and on and on.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 17: Other White House confirms that a blunder was made in

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Speaker 17: letting Goldberg into the chat, but they assert that this

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Speaker 17: was case where it was no big deal. Defense Secretary.

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Speaker 17: Hegeseth also is slamming the reporter, saying this, you're.

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Speaker 11: Talking about a.

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Speaker 19: Deceitful and highly discredited so called journalists who's made a

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Speaker 19: profession of pedaling hoax his time and time again post.

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Speaker 14: Details shared on signal And how did you learn that

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Speaker 14: a journalists was privy to the targets, the types of

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Speaker 14: weapons used.

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Speaker 19: Every time I've heard it was characterized nobody was texting

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Speaker 19: war plans and that's all I have to say about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Goldberg has a bit more to say about some

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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 17: Here's his response.

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Speaker 5: That's a lie.

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Speaker 20: He was texting war plans, He was texting attack plans,

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Speaker 20: when targets were going to be targeted, how they were

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Speaker 20: going to be targeted, Who was at the targets when

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Speaker 20: the next sequence of attacks were happening.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a lot of detail.

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Speaker 17: It was Goldberg who withdrew from the chat and refuse

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Speaker 17: senators closed some of those details for security reasons. So

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Speaker 17: who was it who was operating with concern for this

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Speaker 17: country's national security? At a previously scheduled Senate hearing on

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Speaker 17: Capitol Hill a short time ago, the CIA chief John Retcliffe,

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Speaker 17: our National Intelligence Director Telsey Gabbard both denied any classified

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Speaker 17: information was shared in the chat. Well, Senator Michael Bennett says,

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Speaker 17: China can easily tap into these phones. Senator Mike Warner said,

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Speaker 17: release the transcript if there's nothing classified there. He said,

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Speaker 17: we'll find out what went on here, And Senator Bennett

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Speaker 17: went on to say, you know, one of the people

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Speaker 17: on the chat actually was right in Moscow for this

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Speaker 17: whole dang thing, says the senator, did you know.

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Speaker 18: That the President's Middle East advisor was in Moscow.

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Speaker 2: On this thread while you were, as director of.

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Speaker 13: The CIA participating in this in this thread?

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Speaker 1: Were you aware of that?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you aware of that today?

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Speaker 3: I'm not aware of that.

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Speaker 18: This swoppiness, this incompetence, this disrespect.

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Speaker 17: It's just an embarrassment. He says, Well, if the CIA

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Speaker 17: didn't know about it, Mike, I sure did. Trump's envoyd

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Speaker 17: to putin, Steve Witcoff was in Russia and that was

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Speaker 17: all over the news here this morning, even if the

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Speaker 17: CIA boss didn't hear of it on the news meantime,

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Speaker 17: how do they talk in their chats? Well, Jade Van

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Speaker 17: Steviep says at first that he's not sure about the

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Speaker 17: Yemen tacks saying quote, I just hate bailing out the

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Speaker 17: Europeans again. Defense Secretary heggs It replies, quote, I fully

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Speaker 17: share your loathing of European free loading. It's prothetic gun quote.

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Speaker 17: So now we know what the Trump team calls the

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Speaker 17: European friends.

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Speaker 2: Fine Banks Friday, Richard Arnold State Side by the Way

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Speaker 2: Deutsche Banks survey, the Consumer Confidence Read, was out this

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Speaker 2: morning on the American economy. Consumer confidence is at a

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Speaker 2: twelve year low now sixty five point two, and the

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Speaker 2: Deutsche Bank survey has come in with a suggestion that

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Speaker 2: it's getting close to a fifty to fifty call on

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Speaker 2: whether America hits recession.

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Speaker 1: Night Away from seven, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: Range rover Villa news talks.

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Speaker 2: Had been by housing affordability Mass University. It's improved nine

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Speaker 2: point three percent between August and November of last year.

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Speaker 2: Only Northland and Southlands about it has gone the wrong direction.

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Speaker 2: Canterbury largest income increases I mentioned before, it's the interest

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Speaker 2: rates going down, it's the incomes going up year on year.

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Speaker 2: Affordability is up nineteen percent. Now you can't argue with that.

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Speaker 2: The West Coast Marlborough, Wellington Waycato, Canterbury all improvements in

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Speaker 2: affordability over over twenty percent. And they think there's more

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Speaker 2: where that came from because the interest rates are still

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Speaker 2: going to get cut, a couple more cuts to come,

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Speaker 2: and they're expecting further improvements in terms of wages in

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Speaker 2: this country. Least affordable region in the country at the

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Speaker 2: moment is Tasman one hundred and twenty three percent, Auckland

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Speaker 2: at one twenty, in Bay of Plenty at one thirteen,

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Speaker 2: whereas the West Coast is the lowest. A really very

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Speaker 2: good article about the West Coast the other day, so

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Speaker 2: they said the weather, the weather is better than you think.

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Speaker 2: Mind you, that was a person who moved there and

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Speaker 2: they went, I thought it was going to rain in

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Speaker 2: a lot of sand flies, but apparently there aren't as

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Speaker 2: many san flies and it doesn't rain as much as

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Speaker 2: you think. But the cost of housing, there's plenty of

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Speaker 2: jobs of the West Coast at fifty five percent. It's Boomtown,

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Speaker 2: five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The in and the ouse. It's the fizz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is now might be a bit

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Speaker 2: of a sweet spot in the old housing market. Torpedo seven,

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Speaker 2: now there's a story. They're in need of a turn

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Speaker 2: around and lives the aplan, all my word, there's a plan.

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Speaker 2: So Torpedo seven was sold by the warehouse for a dollar.

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Speaker 2: It bought it four fifty two. He bought it and

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Speaker 2: then spent fifty two million honor and that didn't work.

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Speaker 2: So they had to flick it and they in flecked

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Speaker 2: it to who are partners?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: To who are partners? They own Burger King here and

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Speaker 2: Starbucks and Popeyes and Hanners and Number one shoes. So

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Speaker 2: that's a diverse portfolio, isn't it Cheap shoes and Hamburgers. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: what are they going to do with it? Well, they're

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Speaker 2: permanently going to close a couple of shops, I'm afraid

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Speaker 2: to tell you one and wrote a real one in

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Speaker 2: Westgate which is Norkumanbe. They're going to convert ten of

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Speaker 2: the remaining sixteen into a new offering what they're calling

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Speaker 2: the outlet. So what's the outlet? Well, the outlet they

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Speaker 2: claim will offer great value and everyday discounts and a

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Speaker 2: diverse mix of products including apparel, footwear, outdoor gear and

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Speaker 2: other categories. Now the other categories, they're a mystery. So

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Speaker 2: that makes it so much more exciting, isn't it? As

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Speaker 2: you wait for this turnaround to unfold, the remaining six

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Speaker 2: outlets are going to remain flagship. Torpedo sevens now not

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Speaker 2: making fun of Torpedo sevens because we bought some weights

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Speaker 2: from Torpedo sevens the other day. So Torpedo seven do weights.

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Speaker 2: And if you think ordering weights is easy, it's not

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Speaker 2: easy because they weigh a lot. They delivered to twelve

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Speaker 2: kilos the other day, twenty four kilos, just in a

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Speaker 2: little size. And here's the thing about it. The twelve

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Speaker 2: kilo weights were smaller than the eight kilo waits and

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Speaker 2: the eight kilo waits. I thought eight kilos, I can

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Speaker 2: handle that. So I picked up sixteen kilos and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: I think it wasn't that hard at all. But then

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Speaker 2: these little bit of twelve kilos could barely shift them

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Speaker 2: twenty four kilos.

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Speaker 11: Anyway, that might amazing as well.

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Speaker 2: It is incredible. And the is that that gravity listen.

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Speaker 2: It is the gravity listen, isn't or mad Waits or something.

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Speaker 2: It all came from Torpedo seven so we played our

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Speaker 2: small bit in helping them out by buying some weights

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Speaker 2: and eates and some twelves. Anyway, I'm going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the stadium for in a couple of moments.

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Speaker 21: That's after the news, the Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to

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Speaker 21: Stay in the Know, the Mike Husking Breakfast with al Vida,

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Speaker 21: Retirement Commune, Life Your Way News Dogs had been.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven past seven. So we've got yet another debate

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Speaker 2: over a so called national stadium in Auckland, and like

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Speaker 2: the other ones, this one has now ground to a

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Speaker 2: bit of a whole. There's a report tells us that

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Speaker 2: Eden Park's redevelopment and the downtown Key Park project are

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Speaker 2: both unfeasible without public money. So counselors are going to

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Speaker 2: meet tomorrowy Yaxham Moore about it. The chief executive of

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Speaker 2: the two thousand and eleven Rugby World Cup, Martin Snedden's

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Speaker 2: with There's Martin Morning, Biddy, Michael, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing because I was talking to you in twenty

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Speaker 2: eleven about this very thing and we're still talking about

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Speaker 2: it now. I mean, is just tell you everything you

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Speaker 2: need to know about what's wrong? With this country.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, we're not good on this one at all. And

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Speaker 22: it's it's really frustrating because the longer it goes on,

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Speaker 22: the more it just gets bogged down and positions that

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Speaker 22: just don't come together.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a plan? I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 2: two part question, do we need a national stadium? And

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Speaker 2: two if we do, who should run it and own

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Speaker 2: it and sort it and make a decision once and

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Speaker 2: for all.

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Speaker 22: So I'll just declare I'm hopelessly conflicted here. Great great

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Speaker 22: father was one of five blocks that mortgaged their houses

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Speaker 22: and purchased the land and sandring and turned it into

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Speaker 22: a cricket ground, put it into a trust, invited rugby

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Speaker 22: in and you know, said my family me. We've had

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Speaker 22: such a huge involvement with the ground. So I love it.

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Speaker 22: I love Eden Park. I love the big events there.

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Speaker 22: I think they do the big events really well. I

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Speaker 22: mean people in this whole debate seem to forget that

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Speaker 22: the Rugby World Cup, you know, eleven games basically sixty

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Speaker 22: thousand people again, Cricket World Cup two fifteen, the fief

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Speaker 22: of Women's World Cup you know last year could play

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Speaker 22: playing there fifty thousand people three nights in a row.

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Speaker 22: It can handle the really big events, the national stadium events.

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Speaker 22: I'm a resident around Eden Park that's sorted all the

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Speaker 22: rubbish out around there. They do a great job with

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Speaker 22: the residence. So the problem might is not the big stuff.

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Speaker 22: The problem is the small stuff and playing, you know,

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Speaker 22: a whole bunch of small stuff in a stadium that's

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Speaker 22: just not built for small stuff. Creckitt made a big

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Speaker 22: decision a number of years ago to shift test cricket

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Speaker 22: out of the big stadium, put it in the boutique

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Speaker 22: grounds like Hagley and Bay Oval, and it's worked brilliantly.

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Speaker 22: But if we continue to put small events into big

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Speaker 22: stadium and this will be the same. Even if they

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Speaker 22: build a brand new stadium down in the waterfront area,

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Speaker 22: if they're getting five thousand people to those games that

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Speaker 22: are played there, they're going to have the same problem.

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Speaker 22: So we've needed for a long time right size stadia

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Speaker 22: to fit right size events, and we missed an enormous

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Speaker 22: opportunity with Western Springs about seven or eight years ago,

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Speaker 22: where cricket could have really easily transferred there. Got out

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Speaker 22: of the way of everything at Rugby Looker.

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Speaker 2: Following the rest of the country. Though, by the time

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Speaker 2: you've got Eden Park and you've got Mount Smart Stadium,

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Speaker 2: you've got Albany Stadium, don't we have enough stuff?

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Speaker 22: I mean we're we shouldn't even have that amount. I

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Speaker 22: mean it's time people really got collaborative. And I know,

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Speaker 22: you know, you may not agree with me here, but

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Speaker 22: the Warriors Auckland f C. They should be incorporated into

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Speaker 22: the program and eaten part so that you know that

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Speaker 22: venue is this is what's happened, you know places around

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Speaker 22: the world, is the multi use of one venue. Look

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Speaker 22: at what happened at Eaton Park over the weekend. We're

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Speaker 22: on Friday they had white fans and black Caps Internationals

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Speaker 22: played their Saturday it was a Crusaders and the Blues,

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Speaker 22: and Monday it was the All Whites qualifying for.

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Speaker 5: The World Cup.

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Speaker 22: That's the right use of the stadia and that's what

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Speaker 22: we need to move towards. We don't need to keep

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Speaker 22: propping up other stadia that are just not for purpose.

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Speaker 22: Let's just concentrate it all into what we've got now.

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Speaker 22: The real problem here of courses now is quite obviously

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Speaker 22: public money is needed, all right, Well, Ukham's house has

702
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Speaker 22: got no money and it's not putting anything to this

703
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Speaker 22: and therefore the whole process that we're going through at

704
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Speaker 22: the moment was probably doomed right from the start. The

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Speaker 22: government's in such a difficult situation with a whole raft

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Speaker 22: of things, since people and Dunedin are being on quite

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Speaker 22: rightly about a hospital, so you've got to prioritize a

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Speaker 22: hospital ahead of the Stadia. So they haven't known any money.

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Speaker 22: So where are we going to go?

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Speaker 2: Very good question, Martin, These are all good questions. You

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Speaker 2: sound like a sensible, intelligent man who should be running

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Speaker 2: more things than you currently are. Martin snedden Is as

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes past seven Paska and yet Brisbane yesterday one

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Speaker 2: hundred days they took to have a review and after

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Speaker 2: one hundred days they announced day sixty three thousand seat

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Speaker 2: stadium for the Olympic Games at a cost of three

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Speaker 2: point seven eighty five billion dollars, which will be the

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Speaker 2: home of the Brisbane Lines, the Brisbane Heat, the Brisbane

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Speaker 2: Balls and also have the ability to hope our host

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Speaker 2: AFL as well as Test cricket. So that's why Australia

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Speaker 2: is Australia and we aren't right. As various parts of

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Speaker 2: the economy sparked to life the old employment side of

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Speaker 2: the equation. As we mentioned with Andrew earlier, U still

724
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Speaker 2: to feel upbeat. Confidence levels at their lowest levels since

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Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty. It all comes from the west

726
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Speaker 2: Pac mcderm at Miller survey show's job availability remains soft,

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Speaker 2: but it's not all bad. EMA's head of Advocacy, Finance

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Speaker 2: and Strategy, Allan McDonald back with us Ellen Morning, Morning, Mine.

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Speaker 2: So I read in the report that it's going to peak.

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Speaker 2: They think at five unemployment this is peak at five

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Speaker 2: point three percent. We're almost there. So can I say

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Speaker 2: the worst is almost behind us? Are about to be,

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Speaker 2: I hope.

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Speaker 23: So we're a little surprised in February where the inquiries

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Speaker 23: to our advice line around redundancies and restructures actually pop

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Speaker 23: back up to new record levels. Now we're kind of

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Speaker 23: hopeful that just that December January period where people have

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Speaker 23: gone away and had a good look at things and

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Speaker 23: made the tough calls, but some of the numbers heading

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Speaker 23: in the right direction. But a lot of our members

741
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Speaker 23: again have just been out on the road still doing

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Speaker 23: it really hard. So just that lack of confidence still

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Speaker 23: in actually hiring and expanding and all those good things

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Speaker 23: that we need to get going.

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Speaker 2: And are they literally doing it hard or are they

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Speaker 2: just telling you they're doing it hard, because I always

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Speaker 2: worry about surveys that talk about perception.

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Speaker 23: No, I think they are literally doing it hard. I

749
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Speaker 23: was about sixty more than sixteen percent of firms actually

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Speaker 23: debre started in the last year, and that's always a

751
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Speaker 23: tough decision. Some sectors are popping up quite well. You know,

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Speaker 23: our exports sector, particularly around the primary industry, is doing

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Speaker 23: pretty well, and some of our smart tech innovators are

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Speaker 23: getting strong orders. But other other areas, the usual suspects,

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Speaker 23: you know, tourism, hospo, construction still a bit flat. Manufacturing

756
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Speaker 23: has had a really rough patch as well. Finally on

757
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Speaker 23: the turn, but their higher expectations and maybe later in

758
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Speaker 23: the year rather than sooner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, manufacturers back in positive. Services is back in

760
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Speaker 2: the negative. Do you see this broad sense that by

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Speaker 2: the end of the year we're going to be okay ish.

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Speaker 23: That's what the indicators are telling us, and that's what

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Speaker 23: some of the confidence surveys are telling us as well.

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Speaker 23: They're saying, look not so good now, but maybe six

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Speaker 23: to twelve months. I think you've got a huge, huge

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Speaker 23: proportion of mortgages coming off short term fixed terms in

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Speaker 23: the next six to twelve months. When that money starts

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Speaker 23: to flow into pockets, because consumer confidence is all over

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Speaker 23: the place as well, When that money starts to flow

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Speaker 23: into pockets, I think that's when you'll see some real

771
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Speaker 23: confidence movement in those some of those numbers, and finally

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Speaker 23: turn the corner. But it's a it's a super tanker turn,

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Speaker 23: it's not a jet boat turn.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff all right, must catch up with the Allen

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Speaker 2: Allen McDonald em ahead a bit because he financed strategy

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Speaker 2: on that broad subject of big picture and rimas and

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Speaker 2: the reform and the announcement from the government this week,

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Speaker 2: there is a suggestion that we might be able to

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Speaker 2: get a little bit of cooperation from the Labor Party

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Speaker 2: for the big picture stuff going forward. So Chris Hopkins

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Speaker 2: with us after seven thirty quarter past seven already.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 3: A b.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen past seven. For a Labor government, it's about as

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Speaker 2: blatant as far as I could work out as you

787
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Speaker 2: could get. Despite the fact Australia running massive deficits. This

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Speaker 2: is the budget last night. They handed out tax for everybody.

789
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Speaker 2: There's medical Medicare funding, make a cheapi, go to the doctor.

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Speaker 2: They're going to pay a chunk of your power bill

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Speaker 2: going to player, slice off your student loan if you've

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Speaker 2: got one. It's almost as though there's know an election

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Speaker 2: coming up. HSBC Chief Economist Paul Bloxham's with us. Paul,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, So.

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Speaker 2: More money as opposed to politics. But there's this idea

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Speaker 2: that they're going to run deficits forever in a country

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Speaker 2: that once ran surpluses. Are they sort of given up?

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Speaker 4: There wasn't very much in the budget for trying to

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Speaker 4: deal with this particular challenge and that was actually the

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Speaker 4: main thing we highlighted when we looked at it and

802
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Speaker 4: when we thought about it. You know, the Australia is

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Speaker 4: running budget deficits, as you say, over the rest of

804
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Speaker 4: the forecast horizon. They're what you call a structural budget deficit.

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Speaker 4: So really what that means is the government is saying,

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Speaker 4: for all of the commitments we've got in terms of

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Speaker 4: spending over the forecast horizon, we're not going to get

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Speaker 4: enough tax revenue to meet those spending commitments, and that's

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Speaker 4: going to be the state of affairs overcoming overcoming years.

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Speaker 4: And they haven't really delivered any solutions for fixing that

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Speaker 4: structural budget deficit.

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Speaker 2: But they're bringing in more than they've ever brought in

813
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Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty three billion dollars from tax and

814
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Speaker 2: yet they still can't make ends meet.

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Speaker 4: That's right, there is more tax revenue coming through. There

816
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Speaker 4: was an upside surprise actually again in these numbers. So

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Speaker 4: this is the fourth year where there's been an upside

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Speaker 4: surprise in fact that sort of the three previous budgets

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Speaker 4: delivered really substantial upside surprises to revenue. A lot of

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Speaker 4: it's been funneled back into commitments to spend. I think

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Speaker 4: underpinning the numbers also, there's an assumption that productivity picks

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Speaker 4: up in the economy that's quite strong, and there's an

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Speaker 4: assumption that there is actually still quite a bit of

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Speaker 4: trimming going on in some of the bigger items like

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Speaker 4: the National Disability Insurance game. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: there's questions as to whether even the numbers that are

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Speaker 4: presented are actually necessarily going to get even the structural

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Speaker 4: budget deficit that's there. So you know, the way you

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Speaker 4: fix this problem, You've got three things. You can only

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Speaker 4: do it three ways. You either find ways to trim

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Speaker 4: back on spending, you find ways to get more revenue,

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Speaker 4: but the tax revenue is actually forecast to rise anyway.

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Speaker 4: Or the third one, which is very very much you

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Speaker 4: know what ought to happen. You try to boost the

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Speaker 4: economy's growth. If you can boost growth in the economy,

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Speaker 4: that's the best way to do this, absolutely hands down.

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Speaker 4: But to get that to happen, you've got to take

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Speaker 4: action on reform that gets productivity to list. And this

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Speaker 4: is the big this is the big, fundamental underlying challenge

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Speaker 4: Australia faces that productivity is very poor. It's been going backwards,

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Speaker 4: not forwards. It's been falling over the past year. It's

842
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Speaker 4: been to the same level right now that it was

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Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen. We haven't had any productivity growth in

844
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Speaker 4: eight years in Australia and there's very little there's you know,

845
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Speaker 4: the budget is very focused on spending measures as you describe.

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Speaker 4: As we head towards an election before the seventeenth of May.

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Speaker 2: Great and so Paul appreciate it very much. Pull blocks

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Speaker 2: them out of HSB. See the forecast for growth has

849
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Speaker 2: gone from one point five to two point twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So there's a question mark as to whether that's believable

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Speaker 2: or not. But as I've said on this program for many,

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Speaker 2: many years, not that I suspect the many voters really

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Speaker 2: care about it. But if you think Australia is great,

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Speaker 2: it's not. There's a lot wrong with the US Australia.

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Speaker 2: And if you look at the documentation and the budget

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Speaker 2: last night, it's all laid out there, but they'll pretend

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Speaker 2: that it's all good and the fantastic. And as long

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Speaker 2: as you're getting a little bit of something in your

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Speaker 2: back pocket, what do you care? Anyway? More from Steve

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Speaker 2: Price later on seven.

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Speaker 7: Now.

885
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: Lindsay McKenzie is still busy at work. Now you have

886
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: forgotten his name because, like so much news these days,

887
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: it's hot stuff until it isn't. Lindsay's the bloke there

888
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: was appointed to watch over Wellington Council because of their dysfunction.

889
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: He's just written his second report, his first report seems

890
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: sort of sympathetic to my eye anyway. Ah, Yes, they

891
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: were a mess, but they were decent sort of people,

892
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. His second report seems to suggest

893
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: not a lot is getting better. Some counselors have continued,

894
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: he writes, their criticism of each other, and officers are

895
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: suspected of leaking information. He also says the community is

896
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: that it's wits end his words, not mine, wits end

897
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: over infrastructure, although most of that comes from the same complainers.

898
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: He also noted since his first report, there's been several

899
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: incidences that have given rise to concerns about the organization's

900
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: ability to function. Now the question I have has given

901
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: the place is still to be found wanting what next.

902
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: So you might remember the Minister at the time, simming

903
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: In Brown, put this bloke in as the least and

904
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: trusive option as opposed to a full commissioner or set

905
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: of commissioners. So far, so bad. So is he going

906
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: to do anything about any of this? Or is poor

907
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: old Lindsay set to write reports for the rest of

908
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: his life. In the report, though I found a nugget

909
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: of gold, he recommends a review of the Local Government

910
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: Act in relation to the qualification for and capability to

911
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: hold office. Yes, yes, yes, yes, please, Let's actually treat

912
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: these jobs as jobs, as opposed to devils or fascinations

913
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: or fiftoms. Let's actually require people to God forbid, have

914
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: some skills. Now, the idea you can just put your

915
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: name for it for a job of such responsibility is absurd,

916
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: beyond belief, of course. And when any idiot can have

917
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: a crack, guess what you get, Wellington is what you get.

918
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: So let's get a bit of professionalism and then let's

919
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: put a bit of hift behind the job. Let's get

920
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: some talent in the room. If that recommendation has acted

921
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: on and I have no doubt it won't be because

922
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: why would you fix anything when you get ignore it.

923
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: But if that was run with Lindsey would deserve, if

924
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: not a knighthood, certainly keys to a vastly better run city.

925
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Pasking common sense conversation with eden Park no money, so

926
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: use what we have, sensibly, thank you. Denise Martin sneedan

927
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Can we just put him in charge? He's likable guy,

928
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: isn't he? Elmton Morning Read the stadium. Don't build another

929
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: stadium in Auckland. Use the North Harbor Stadium instead. Don't

930
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: we already own that white elephant? Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

931
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: Are you sick of talking about it?

932
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 5: Yep?

933
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: Have we talked about it too long?

934
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 5: Yep.

935
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: Bob Geldoff is in the studio tomorrow, which is exciting

936
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: because I haven't seen Bob for twenty years. I just

937
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: worked out it was twenty years ago that he last

938
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: came to the country, or at least last time he

939
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: was here and I ran into him. But he was

940
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: here for a show with Malcolm McLaren and we spent

941
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: a good fun day together and Greg Johnson was on

942
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: the piano, probably tells him story. He won't remember any

943
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: of this. I'm going to do this tomorrow and go

944
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: remember last time I saw your Bob, and he'll go none. Anyway.

945
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: He's easier for I'll tell you what he's here for

946
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: tomorrow anyway, when he joins us in the studio after

947
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: eight o'clock meantime cooperation around the Resource Management Act. Let

948
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: us go on from National to Labor and the Greens.

949
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: Can we get this together, bang a few heads and

950
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: get some cooperation? Is it possible? We'll ask the Chipster Next.

951
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: It's your source of freaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

952
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed

953
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: to intrigue and use, Tom sed b mad.

954
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: Michell, Ginny Anderson are through a politics Wednesday, have coursed

955
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from it, speaking to which the

956
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: government is having a crack at cross party support for

957
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: their RIMA reform. They're inviting the Labor Party and the

958
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: Greens to the table to try and build sort of

959
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: consensus around these new laws. So what chance did this happen?

960
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: Labor Party leader Crusipkins with us morning.

961
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 11: Good morning, Mike.

962
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 10: I'm glad you found my number again.

963
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: And no, we never lost your number, Chris just didn't

964
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: want to ring it. You know how it goes now?

965
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 10: A brutal business, Mike.

966
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: It's a tough business, Chris. On a scale of one

967
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: to ten when we talk about this cooperation business, on

968
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten ten. You can't wait

969
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: to get into bed with these people and sort out

970
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: the RMA one. You hate them and you're never going

971
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: to touch them with a barge pole. Where are you at?

972
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 22: Oh?

973
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 10: I think we're keen to try and achieve some certainty

974
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 10: for New Zealanders. So if we can work with them

975
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 10: find a way forward that involves a bit of compromise

976
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 10: and that will actually give some certainty to RMA reform,

977
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 10: then we're very keen to talk to them.

978
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 15: You know.

979
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 10: I think one of the things that we've heard a

980
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 10: lot in the last year or so from New Zealanders is,

981
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 10: you know, the ping pong where each government comes in

982
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 10: and just changes everything the last government did is actually

983
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 10: getting a bit dizzy, and for people, compromise will be

984
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 10: required on both sides. If we're going to get something

985
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 10: that's a bit more stable and that avoids that, and

986
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 10: if we can try and achieve that over the next

987
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 10: year and a half or so, then we're open to

988
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 10: that conversation.

989
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: Now. I was very pleased to hear you say that

990
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: the other day, and I thought, well, maybe we're onto something.

991
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: But then I asked Ginny Anderson on the program last

992
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: week about your charter schools, and she botched that completely.

993
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: And you're still canceling charter schools. But you so, on

994
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: one hand, you're saying we want to cooperate. On another hand,

995
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: we're not canceling stuff, and then you are well.

996
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 10: There are I mean, you're never going to get complete

997
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 10: unanimity in politics, So there are going to be areas

998
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 10: where there's difference. But in areas like infrastructure and areas

999
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 10: like RIMA reform, where we've got really long lead times,

1000
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 10: very long kind of tails to some of these things,

1001
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 10: and very significant effects with the short term chop and

1002
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 10: change cycle, we do want to try and provide a

1003
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 10: bit more certainty. So if you take things like infrastructure,

1004
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 10: for example, one government coming in and saying, ohously, I

1005
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 10: don't like the roading projects that the last government have

1006
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 10: signed up to, so we're going to put all them

1007
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 10: on hold and we're going to come up with our

1008
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 10: own list of roading projects. What happens in the meantime

1009
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 10: is all the businesses who would build those roading projects

1010
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 10: suddenly go all, what do we do with all the

1011
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 10: workers who we've got leaning on shovels? And you know,

1012
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 10: I just think that's got to stop. So what I

1013
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 10: said was in areas like roading, for example, if there

1014
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 10: are projects underway, even if they might not have been

1015
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 10: our first choice, we'll keep doing them. Now the long

1016
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 10: term pipeline might change so further down the track. Five

1017
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 10: years down the TI you might find that the priorities

1018
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 10: have changed and we're building different roads, but we won't

1019
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 10: grind everything to a hold hold in the meantime.

1020
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: What about your comment about the treaty, So the treaty's

1021
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: not in it? Do you is that like put it

1022
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: in or else we're out.

1023
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 10: It's certainly something we want to talk to them about. So,

1024
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 10: I mean, Chris Bishop made some soothing comments yesterday about

1025
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 10: wanting to respect, you know, Mardi rights under the treaty,

1026
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 10: wanting to make sure that treaty settlements were upheld and

1027
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 10: all of that. We need to kind of see what

1028
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 10: that looks like because saying that you want to do

1029
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 10: that but then saying you don't want to put it

1030
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 10: in the law a kind of contradictory thing. So we

1031
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 10: need to understand exactly what the government are proposing there.

1032
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to make it too political, but one

1033
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: of the examples that's been tossed around in the last

1034
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: couple of days sort of the Island Singapore thing where

1035
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: they've got all the rules on basically one page. When

1036
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: David Parker wanted to reform it and came up with

1037
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: nine hundred plus pages, was that a bridge too far?

1038
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 10: I mean, I think you can't judge the quality of

1039
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 10: legislation in an area like this by the length of it,

1040
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 10: because in some cases, longer legislation that gives more clarity

1041
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 10: is better than shorter legislation, which then means you get

1042
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 10: a hold lot of regulations which can shop and change more.

1043
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 10: So I don't think that we should set a page

1044
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 10: limit to it, because sometimes you know, a longer legislation

1045
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 10: actually is clearer than shorter legislation. So if you did

1046
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 10: get it down to a page, for example, Mike, and

1047
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 10: it was a page of principles, that'd be quite subjective potentially,

1048
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 10: and then the courts end up having more sway in

1049
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 10: it rather than Parliament. So you know, I think what

1050
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 10: we want to try and do is find something that

1051
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 10: gives New Zealanders some certainty so that they can say, Okay,

1052
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 10: these are the rules, we know what they're going to be,

1053
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 10: they're locked in, and we can move forward. And I

1054
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 10: think that that actual but that does put an onus

1055
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 10: on National in particular to say, yet, we'll come to

1056
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 10: the table and we'll try and find a way forward

1057
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 10: that labor and National can both live with. And it

1058
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 10: might not be first preference for either of us. Who

1059
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 10: will find a way forward. What Chris Bishop's leader effectively

1060
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 10: said yesterday was that you know, New Zealand first and

1061
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 10: Act will continue to have a veto on any decisions.

1062
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 10: Now I think he is a fed up of that.

1063
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 10: So I'm saying to them, look, if Labor and National

1064
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 10: can get around the table, find a way forward. That

1065
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 10: gives you majority in parliament, but it also means it's

1066
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 10: an enduring majority if the government changes. I think New

1067
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 10: Zealander would be quite keen on that.

1068
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: Would you concede? Though? The couple of examples I've got

1069
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: exercised about it, like was this k road building by

1070
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: Farenhey that was rejected for reasons that having read it,

1071
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: I can't even begin to understand. And the wind farm

1072
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: in Southland under your fast track rule, the wind farm

1073
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed, so renewable fast track still can't go ahead.

1074
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't defend that stuff, can you?

1075
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 15: No?

1076
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 10: I mean I was pretty frustrated by both of those decisions,

1077
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 10: to be frank, you know, and you know the fast

1078
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 10: Track was designed to try and speed up exactly that

1079
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 10: kind of project and those kind of projects, when we

1080
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 10: need more renewable energy in New Zealand and we need

1081
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 10: a resource management process that allows us to get that.

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Speaker 10: I think if you take the case of the wind

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Speaker 10: farm for example, it kind of highlights where we need

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Speaker 10: a bit of a almost like an attitude shift towards

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Speaker 10: this stuff. From saying no, you can't do these things

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Speaker 10: for these reasons, to saying, look, these are the concerns

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Speaker 10: that we've got, and here's how you can mitigate those

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Speaker 10: concerns that you can go ahead and do it.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 10: That's the kind of I think sort of attitude shift

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Speaker 10: that we need around resource management stuff. It's not that

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00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 10: there shouldn't be environmental protections, there should be. It's not

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Speaker 10: that there shouldn't be constraints. There should be, but the

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Speaker 10: way we approach them has to be. Wind farms are good.

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Speaker 10: We won't need them to happen in order for them

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Speaker 10: to happen in this area. These are the things you

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Speaker 10: need to do to mitigate the risks.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm nice to catch up with the Cross Sipkins

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Speaker 2: Labor Party leader. It's eighteen minutes away from eight Mike.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust Chippy with a barge pole too much. Baggage. Sure,

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Speaker 2: that's my ongoing. That's why I can't wait for the

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Speaker 2: election to year next year, because it's going to be

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00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: a fascinating thing. And that's why traditionally governments get two

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Speaker 2: terms in this country, especially ones that got heved out

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00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: of power for very obvious and overt reasons around the economy.

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Speaker 2: Is that you haven't forgotten and the same people are there.

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Speaker 2: So unless I mean, if they'd materially changed that they'd gone,

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Speaker 2: look those policies for another time, another day, and we're

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00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: different now, or that jettisoned a whole lot of people

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Speaker 2: out and put a whole lot of new people, and

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00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: then you have a different conversation. But the same people

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Speaker 2: who shafted the economy are going to be presenting themselves

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Speaker 2: to you next year and going, hey, remember us, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Shorter legislations always better, Hipkins not convincing. All Chippy is

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00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: doing is appeasing potential swing voters. This rat will say

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Speaker 2: anything to get in power. Mike Chippy needs the Marry

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Speaker 2: Party to get back into government and they won't agree.

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Speaker 2: Weasel words. So didn't go too well. From seventeen too.

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Speaker 1: Good The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show Podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At be nicely summed up to actually Mike, which Chrissy

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00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: you interviewing on the rama literally copying Luckson's words, So

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Speaker 2: Luxon if you missed him on the program yesterday was

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Speaker 2: all about the no culture and Hipkins picked the up

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Speaker 2: and ram with it, which is both, which makes both

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Speaker 2: of them right now best piece of reading. I haven't

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Speaker 2: got to Duncan Webb. Duncan Webb's a Labor Party MP

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Speaker 2: and he's been on social media talking about supermarket and

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Speaker 2: this is where this thing's going to go wrong, because

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Speaker 2: poor old Barbara Edmonds was getting a pasting in the

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Speaker 2: house yes to day once again because she butchered the

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Speaker 2: pppiece public Private partnerships, and so they were sort of going, well,

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00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: we kind of like public private partnerships, but sometimes we don't,

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Speaker 2: and then when we do, they might not work, and

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Speaker 2: so it went on, and then she went on to

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Speaker 2: explain that she needed to explain it differently to different audiences,

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00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 2: so the whole thing became a complete cluster until she

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00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: eventually apologized for all the confusion. And that's before you

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00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: get to Ginny's performance on this program last week about

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00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: the charter school and whether or not they were going

1141
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: to get canceled. And then you've got Duncan web who's

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Speaker 2: been on social media talking about a supermarket in his

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00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: local area, which is nearer I haven't to know. Well,

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Speaker 2: in christ Duty called Edgewhere because Manana used to live

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Speaker 2: in edge Where and I was just down the roads

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Speaker 2: and Aubans and you'd go up to the edge Where

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Speaker 2: area and wear these shops. And these days it's all

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Speaker 2: supermarkets and it's a big sort of built up area.

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00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, they want to put a new supermarket in eachwhere.

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Speaker 2: But Duncan's busy on social media going well, no, I

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Speaker 2: don't support a new supermarket. Everyone's going, what we need

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00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: more supermarkets? Oh, I support a new supermarket, but we're

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Speaker 2: not having any public consultation because of this fast track business.

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00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: We need to have public consultation. And everyone goes, well,

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Speaker 2: the public consultation would be we want more supermarkets, dunk

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00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, we don't know that until we

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Speaker 2: have the public consultation. Well, don't you support the supermarket,

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00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: dunk it. Oh, I support the supermarket, but we just

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Speaker 2: have the public consultation so you can see where these

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Speaker 2: people go so hopelessly wrong. It's all theory, no reality. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: back to the best piece of reading you will see today, please,

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Speaker 2: can I recommend Audrey Young's piece in the Herald this

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Speaker 2: morning where she talks to Winston Peters. Winston she was

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Speaker 2: setting up the interview, she explains later on, to talk

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Speaker 2: about Marco Rubio, but they got onto vastly more fascinating things,

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Speaker 2: and that would be Winston age. He's about to turn eighty.

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Speaker 2: Now I call it completely wrong. If you remember a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago, I said he'd get to this

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00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: last election, then he'd call it quits, and he clearly

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Speaker 2: shows no signs of that whatsoever. So he's about to

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Speaker 2: turn eighty in April, and they get on to diet.

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Speaker 2: And if you're a regular on this program, you will

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Speaker 2: know nobody is more fixated with diet and food and

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00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: health and exercise and all that sort of stuff than

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Speaker 2: I am. But turns out Winston's reasonably interested as well.

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Speaker 2: He claims in this article this morning that back in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty he made a decision June five, nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 2: that he was all about the diet. Now then he

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Speaker 2: makes this comment and never a truer word is said.

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Speaker 2: This drive he talks of to fix up the health

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Speaker 2: system doesn't count for much, especially with Marian Polynesians, if

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Speaker 2: they're not going to have a decent diet. Diet is

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Speaker 2: not wealth. Diet is the right food. I think diet

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Speaker 2: is absolutely critical, and I'm glad somebody's saying that because

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Speaker 2: no one else will, because of course you'll be called

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Speaker 2: a racist. But it's true. And the problem for so

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Speaker 2: much of what's going wrong with the Western world and

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Speaker 2: the health systems generally is that people are fat, and

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Speaker 2: if they're not fat, they're obese. And if they're not

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Speaker 2: fat and or obese, they're not exercising, and they're not healthy.

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Speaker 2: And you wonder why everyone's at the bottom of the

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Speaker 2: cliff and the health system. He puts it all down

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Speaker 2: his health because he's living way past the average age

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Speaker 2: of Mara man, of course, which is about seventy three,

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Speaker 2: and he's, as I say, turning eighty living frugally. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how true that eating a lot of homegrown

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Speaker 2: vegetables and fish and home baked bread. This is how

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Speaker 2: we grew up. I think diet is absolutely critical, and

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Speaker 2: the reality is I don't think we can win this

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Speaker 2: battle in terms of the health system in this country.

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Speaker 2: Maori health changes unless there is a massive dietary change.

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem. If you look at all the

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00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: people on dialysis, you know, how did they get there.

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Speaker 2: They didn't get there by accident, and nobody wants to

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Speaker 2: say it. It's no mistake that so many people live

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Speaker 2: a long time who actually keep working, keep their minds busy,

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Speaker 2: keep actively engaged. It's the secret to success. The moment

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Speaker 2: you give up in terms of working, I think it's

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00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: a very bad outcome. So what you're saying is you

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Speaker 2: eat well, you work well, you have purpose. And if

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Speaker 2: you look at some of the ancient cultures, they're all

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Speaker 2: about purpose. It doesn't matter what your purpose is. But

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Speaker 2: if you have a purpose, it gets you out of

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Speaker 2: bed in the morning. And the moment all these all

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00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: this advertising you hear about all you can't wait to

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 2: do nothing. Doing nothing's a death sentence. And you mix

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Speaker 2: that with a bad diet and you're finished. And so

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Speaker 2: of all the that Winston Peters will say to you

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Speaker 2: this year, that probably is the most profound and most important.

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Speaker 2: The only question I would raise around Winston is if

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Speaker 2: you've ever been to the Green Parent Wellington. I just

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Speaker 2: don't know how much vegetable, how many vegetables were being eaten.

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Speaker 2: And he, as far as I know, I think he

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Speaker 2: gave up smoking. I may be wrong, and I think

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Speaker 2: he could still be a smoker. And he's certainly been

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Speaker 2: well acquainted over the years with a drink. So when

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Speaker 2: you're talking about fish on one hand and drinking and

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Speaker 2: smoking on the other, you sort of negate the way

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Speaker 2: of your argument. But nevertheless, good on him for saying

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Speaker 2: what he said. He's one hundred percent right, and you

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Speaker 2: can read it all. An Audrey's piece this morning, ate

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Speaker 2: away from.

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Speaker 1: It the make Cosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate Newstalg Sibi.

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Speaker 2: Winston isn't a great fan of cakes either. No, that

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00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: comes out in the article this morning as well. He's

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Speaker 2: asking somebody in the office when it was the last

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Speaker 2: time they had dessert. They reckonly has dessert a couple

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Speaker 2: of times a month, which I would have thought makes

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: them a fairly regular deserter. Right about diet, But the

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Speaker 2: truth has medical schools teach next to nothing about nutrition.

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00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: I know that to be true. You're a thousand percent

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Speaker 2: right right. Nurses here Mike, the godfather of modern medicine.

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Speaker 2: Hippocrates said, let food be thy medicine and medicine be

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Speaker 2: thy food. Diet one hundred percent correct. Check out Zoonia

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00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 2: dot com never heard of it. Excellent series on gut

1246
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: brain connection and tell you what, gut health. The work

1247
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: that's being done on gut, the connection to gut and

1248
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: everything is extraordinary and there's revelations almost on a daily

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00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: basis about all of that. Mike, My mum's ninety five

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00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: this year. Couple of glasses of wine a day definitely

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Speaker 2: keeps her vibrant. Why wouldn't you now? I mentioned Duncan

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Speaker 2: in his supermarket Fascination Edge, where here is Duncan.

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Speaker 11: In each where Today I'm Duncan.

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Speaker 2: We'd you like we'd free Cura.

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Speaker 13: I'm pulling Krotta and you're like all dand slut.

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Speaker 18: And we're here because Will Wors is planning a big

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Speaker 18: bi supermarther over on the Dress Street and.

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Speaker 12: We're standing here today and the heart at the edge

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00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 12: were villain and we want you to be in primmed

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Speaker 12: about this development.

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Speaker 13: And because it's on fast tray, or it could be

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Speaker 13: on fast tree, might not be able to have your

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 13: say so cheap an eye out in the comments and

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 13: elsewhere to see if this is done to be publicly

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00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 13: notified in contact Duncan or me if you have any queries.

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Speaker 11: At all, at which point he does a big double

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Speaker 11: thumbs up.

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Speaker 2: He's the sort of guy who would do a double

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: thumbs up if I see it as Duncan, the sort

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Speaker 2: of bloke who would give you a double thumbs up.

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00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: The answer is almost invariably yes. So Duncan wants the supermarket,

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00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: but he only wants it after consultation, and the consultation

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: will be people wanting a supermarket. But he's like, good

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Speaker 2: night Duncan.

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Speaker 11: Here, Hey, I reckon, you're getting better at your impersonations.

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 11: They're sounding less and less Pakistani all the time.

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Speaker 2: Slowly but surely, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson. But moments away

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Speaker 2: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 1: The News and the news Makers, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential, commercial and

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01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: rural news. Top said, beany.

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Speaker 11: To the distance stars. If you're smile, you're scared.

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Speaker 21: When a girl.

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Speaker 2: We received in the mail bag this week starts a

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01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: letter from hither and she writes, Hello Glenn, knowing what

1286
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 2: vast music knowledge you have. That's the perfect opening line.

1287
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: Always suck up to people here. If you suck up

1288
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: to people, then things go better. You've possibly heard of

1289
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: this group, And in case you have, and I'm sending

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Speaker 2: you this, an English friend has sent me a CD.

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Speaker 2: Just remember those as her cousin Oscar. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: oh Oscar is one of the band members. I just

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Speaker 2: love it, and I'm sure you would too. The voices

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Speaker 2: are beautiful, the accompaniment excellent, and the melody is gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at Robert Plant, another top light musician,

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Speaker 2: are giving them high praise. Now, whether Robert Plant is

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Speaker 2: doing that, I have no idea. But once again, a

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Speaker 2: very good letter writer who we questions, drop a good

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Speaker 2: name in there, and you're probably not going to fact

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Speaker 2: check Robert Plant. So next thing you know, we'll be saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: Robert Plant. Back to these guys. These guys are called

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Speaker 2: bourr Island. The old one is called days Dreamt. They

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Speaker 2: are influenced by Lennon McCartney. A little early Beatles vibe

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Speaker 2: to it, doesn't it.

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Speaker 14: I thought it also actually had a bit of a

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Speaker 14: Simon and Garfunk early Tom and Jerry days.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, world, that's very good anyway, warm regards Heather,

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Speaker 2: a very long time zied big listener, having just turned ninety,

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Speaker 2: one of the younger demographics.

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Speaker 11: Second on that one.

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Speaker 5: St.

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Speaker 2: Peters, Yes, seeing it. Take that Winston Now Politics Wednesday Time,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson as well. It's a very good

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Speaker 2: morning to both of you.

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Speaker 24: Morning Jenny, morning to your boat.

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Speaker 2: Now do you too know Tany Yakoura who we had

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Speaker 2: on the program earlier on Yes, yes, yes, we both Well,

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Speaker 2: she seems like an awesome woman. Am I correct in

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Speaker 2: my assessment? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: She does it. She does a great job. She's one

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Speaker 13: of our deputy commissioners. She delivered the speech in relation

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Speaker 13: to the abuse and state here. She did an outstanding

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Speaker 13: job and doing that she was the interim commissioner at

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Speaker 13: the time. And know she's and she's got a long

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Speaker 13: proud history of service to our country as a police officer.

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Speaker 24: Seems to speak, she's an impressive, impressive woman. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 24: got great operational experience and got a good hit on

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Speaker 24: her shoulders. She's calm and in control and makes good decisions.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Ginny, of your your your co

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Speaker 2: conspirator tamoth of Paul who seems to want to defund

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Speaker 2: the police. How are you going to handle this if

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Speaker 2: you ever get a chance to run the country again.

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Speaker 2: And Tamotha comes along and goes she's heard nothing but

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Speaker 2: complaints about the police, beat patrols around the country and

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Speaker 2: it's completely possible to set up institutions that can overtake

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Speaker 2: lots of functions of the is What are you going

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Speaker 2: to tell Tamotha.

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Speaker 24: I would say, no, Timotha, We're not defunding the police,

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Speaker 24: That's what I would say.

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Speaker 13: That's good, even though you did defund the police when

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Speaker 13: you're in government.

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Speaker 24: Oh come on, we've got fifty more funding you have

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Speaker 24: had excuse us out of the police budget.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me.

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Speaker 24: Two hundred workers out of police excuse me, excuse me,

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Speaker 24: jennystline officers do more work. So I don't even try

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Speaker 24: that one.

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Speaker 13: Back as the incoming minister, the first thing I was

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Speaker 13: briefed on was the fact that the previous labor government

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Speaker 13: had underfunded the cost pressures by about four or five percent,

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Speaker 13: and we changed that immediately. We put one hundred and

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Speaker 13: twenty million dollars just to stabilize them because the cost presious,

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Speaker 13: because because the cost pressures hadn't been funded for. That's

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Speaker 13: the reality of it.

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Speaker 2: Right, are ex budget mate back in the corners, back

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Speaker 2: in the corners you two, would you agree in listening

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Speaker 2: Ginny and listening to Tanny this morning when she spoke

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Speaker 2: well of the Gang Patch band and how it's working

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Speaker 2: and how they appreciate that, would you at least except

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Speaker 2: that that was a good move on this government and

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Speaker 2: you guys might have been wrong.

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Speaker 24: Well, who it worked a lot better than we thought

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Speaker 24: it would end. And I think Chris Carhill has said

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Speaker 24: the same thing that that that front yeah, definitely is

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Speaker 24: a good thing. There was a fear that frontline officers

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Speaker 24: would be hurt and we haven't seen that. So yeah,

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Speaker 24: I'll recognize that it has gone a lot better than

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Speaker 24: what everybody thought it would do.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 13: So I was a frontline police officer and I always

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Speaker 13: believed in it, and I always stood by it, and

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Speaker 13: I had we had all the commentators and you're talking

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Speaker 13: about Duncan. I mean, he was crying into a suit

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Speaker 13: just about every day trying to stick up and protect

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Speaker 13: the game membersine And the reality of it is it's

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Speaker 13: been extremely effective and it's made our police officer's job

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Speaker 13: on the street much easier, and I'd argue that it's

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Speaker 13: made people safer.

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Speaker 24: Well, I would say also, at the same time we've

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Speaker 24: been game patches, we've seen a ninety six percent increase

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Speaker 24: in methanphetamine use in New Zealand. And my point would

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Speaker 24: be that it's more important to get drugs and crime

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Speaker 24: and organized networks broken down than it is to take

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Speaker 24: away Peter.

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Speaker 13: So yes, so yes, we have got a myth and

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Speaker 13: filming problem in New Zealand. That is a global issue

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Speaker 13: that we're dealing with. And the reality is this. We

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Speaker 13: ran a very big operation in a Podok where we

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Speaker 13: took down the entire Barbarian's Mungol mob and if you

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Speaker 13: look at the water testing and the podky, it's dropped significantly.

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Speaker 13: So it just shows that we've got to keep doing

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Speaker 13: what we're doing and hammering the gangs and staying on

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Speaker 13: top of the gate. That's exactly what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Forget the games for a moment, but from the drug

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Speaker 2: side of the equation, Jinny who takes.

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Speaker 24: Myth, look, they do a really good survey. I think

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Speaker 24: you had had someone on the program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was just a generic

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Speaker 2: water testing. I don't know anyone who takes myth.

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Speaker 24: I mean, is it typically it is like if you

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Speaker 24: if you want to generalize, it's it's poorer areas, poorer areas,

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Speaker 24: rural New Zealand with his already poverty. And I know

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Speaker 24: of people who work in some of those areas and

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Speaker 24: they'd say one of the things you see teachers see

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Speaker 24: is that when a family has been on a meat

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Speaker 24: b and there's no food in the house because you're

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Speaker 24: going for three or four days without eating, and they're

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Speaker 24: not going to sleep, and so you get children turning

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Speaker 24: up to school that are hungry who haven't had any sleep.

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Speaker 24: So it's already hit by poverty and their entrenches and

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Speaker 24: makes it even harder for kids growing up in homes

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Speaker 24: with poverty.

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Speaker 13: Would you concur with that, mate, Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 13: right across society. Sadly, some people sort of get The

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Speaker 13: problem with meth is once it gets it talking to you,

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Speaker 13: that's an absolute wrecking ball and it reached people's lives.

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Speaker 13: I remember when it arrived in New Zealand. I was

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Speaker 13: a police officer down in Taerpo. I just got in

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Speaker 13: operation with my second and new police dog. A guy

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Speaker 13: had gone nuts with an axe and was trying to

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Speaker 13: smash his way into a house to attack some people.

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Speaker 13: And I arrived and had to deal with that, and

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Speaker 13: I remember entering some pepper spray into it onto his

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Speaker 13: face and it just had no impact or effect at all.

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Speaker 13: It's a horrible drug. It's a horrible drug. It's very

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Speaker 13: difficult to police. It's been a wrecking ball for us

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Speaker 13: as a country and globally, and we are working really

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Speaker 13: hard that The reason why I keep talking about games

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Speaker 13: is because they are the ones that are pepure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they are. But I worry too, Mark and the

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Speaker 2: flip side of that is going to get all of that.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, who, I just I just I cannot

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Speaker 2: get my head around it that the ninety six percent

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Speaker 2: increase in use. I mean, what sort of idiot goes

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Speaker 2: down that? You know, you can have your weed debate

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Speaker 2: and your cocaine debate and all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 2: But a myth is evil, and once you're down there,

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Speaker 2: you don't get it out.

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Speaker 24: Can I'd like to jump in there? So I worked

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Speaker 24: for when John Key pulled together the myth in tackling

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Speaker 24: myth infetamine when it really started to pick. I worked

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Speaker 24: in that group and Department of Prime Minister and Kevina

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Speaker 24: under National when they had an action plan or myth

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Speaker 24: infetamin and you're right, it goes right across society market.

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Speaker 24: We see it in high you know, white collar areas

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Speaker 24: as well. But it is absolutely devastating. And what those

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Speaker 24: stats are coming at now are showing that the price

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Speaker 24: point for me, it's lowest ever, it's the cheapest it's

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Speaker 24: ever been, and the purity is its highest, It's not

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Speaker 24: been cut at anything. So that shows that the illicit

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Speaker 24: market right now in New Zealand has been completely flooded.

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Speaker 24: You can get it really easily and that's the most

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Speaker 24: worrying thing that people who want to get it quickly.

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Speaker 13: And the other thing, of course, Mike, is that when

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Speaker 13: you are in the tough economic times, people turn to

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Speaker 13: some sort of escape. We sillth be alcohol, whether that

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Speaker 13: be drugs, and we've been in tough economic times for

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Speaker 13: a few years and that's a that's an aggravating factor

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Speaker 13: as well.

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Speaker 2: I've got to take a break. I'm one of my

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Speaker 2: make Minchell Guinney, and in fifteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast full show podcast on Iheard Radio

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Speaker 2: It be eighteen past eight, A little bit short on time,

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Speaker 2: make Mintchell joinny and and just a quick one because

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Speaker 2: we talked too long. And then last week anyway, mark

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Speaker 2: highlight of India for me.

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Speaker 13: Oh, I think, yeah, get it getting to meet prominence

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Speaker 13: Emodei again. I was lucky enough to spend some quality

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Speaker 13: time with him in twenty sixteen. Then I went out

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Speaker 13: there with Sir John Key and you know, for me personally,

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Speaker 13: that was a highlight and then a huge I know

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Speaker 13: it's a huge difference in him. Here's a very new

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Speaker 13: prime minister back then. He's very experienced now doing outstanding job,

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Speaker 13: really clear about what he wants to achieve, and really

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Speaker 13: was very gracious and generous with us as a delegation.

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Speaker 13: And you could clearly see that him and Chris have

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Speaker 13: got a very good relationship.

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Speaker 2: When you fly on the seven five seven, are you

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Speaker 2: buggered by the time you get home, given it takes

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Speaker 2: you thirty seven hours to fly about three hundred miles.

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Speaker 13: No, Funnily enough, I haven't had there coming back. Look,

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Speaker 13: we were the said because you fly so slow. Look,

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Speaker 13: I have to say the world turns. The Defense Forces

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Speaker 13: did an outsteady job of supporting us on this visit,

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Speaker 13: and we were able to actually visit the crew of

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Speaker 13: taka who were about to deploy into the Gulf of

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Speaker 13: Aiden on any poisy on drug and addiction work, which

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Speaker 13: is critically important for all of us.

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Speaker 2: And correct me if I'm wrong. I saw the pictures

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Speaker 2: of the Takaha. It looks like a bucket of bolts.

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Speaker 2: Is it there's rust all over it? Or is that

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Speaker 2: just what happens to a ship after a while that

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Speaker 2: doesn't get painted.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, no, it's Look it's some good shape the crew

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Speaker 13: and great spirits and they're really looking forward to getting

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Speaker 13: out and doing what they joined Defense Forces to do.

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Speaker 13: And that's your active operations.

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Speaker 2: Ginny Electrics in your area yesterday's announcement. I know it

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Speaker 2: doesn't personally affect.

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Speaker 24: You, but but it's just a little bit actually, so you're.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but your electric gets reshaped. It's not like it

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Speaker 2: disappears and some come and some go. Is that is

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 2: that upheaval?

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 24: Well it's we kind of knew it was on the

1506
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 24: cards because some parts of Wellington have decreased by ten

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 24: twelve fourteen percent down in population, so it was always

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01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 24: on the cards that something would shift.

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: But what do you mean, do you what do you

1510
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: get to pick? I know you're not currently so.

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 24: I'm looking forward to get Oh that was fantastic.

1512
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: On the hill get blown and by the southerly. But

1513
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: the views are fantastic. But he's I know that.

1514
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 24: I'm well, I tink you a little bit more over maybe,

1515
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 24: so it'll be interesting to see what that means. It's marginal.

1516
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 24: But do you reckon Newlands as Labor bishop? And oh

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 24: these it's it's middle public.

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01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: Exasperation and nice house at the top of Newlands you

1519
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: can see the harbor.

1520
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 24: I campaigned in there in twenty fourteen. So I went

1521
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 24: up against Peter Darna my first election and there wasn't

1522
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 24: a great election for Labor. That was we got a

1523
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 24: low party vote and I lost out by about seven

1524
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 24: hundred votes in all, how to you? So yeah, it's

1525
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 24: a good area to campaign.

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01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: And I'd say, what's Greg going to do in Barbara?

1527
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean, are they all sort of sitting there? I

1528
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: mean the problem with this is MMP sort of solved

1529
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: the problem, isn't I mean, you get a percentage of

1530
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: the vote, you get percentage of the seats. But I mean,

1531
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: I suppose if you've got an electorate, you want it,

1532
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: don't you.

1533
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 24: We always work hard in the area you know and

1534
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 24: you you like and you want to support. And then

1535
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 24: that's a lot of the fun of being a politician

1536
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 24: as you get in to meet people and understand what.

1537
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: They're what they were.

1538
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 13: I heard they're playing papers as rocks. Who gets the

1539
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 13: gets a seat?

1540
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: See you guys, will catch up next to you. Junny

1541
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,480
Speaker 2: Anderson at take twenty.

1542
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: Two the mate Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, News

1543
01:11:58,640 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: dogs head be.

1544
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: Such a good segment, Mike, why is it so bloody

1545
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: short while you're always leaving them wanting more? As my message, Ah,

1546
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: make twenty twenty five. Your money's a year right, This

1547
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: is the message from Milford this morning. So if you

1548
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: run what's happening. It's interesting where we're living at a

1549
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 2: time when more and more of us are working after

1550
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: sixty five, so too often not because you want to.

1551
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: So it's time to have a think about the old finances.

1552
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 2: So whether it's enjoying your retirement now and when you

1553
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: want to, or just some short term goals, super important

1554
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: to have a clear idea of how you're going to

1555
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: get there. So the first step money goals dot co

1556
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: dot inz. That's the address Money Goals dot co dot inz.

1557
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: You'll find a range of Milford's investing insights, financial goal

1558
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: setting expert qisaber tips, info on pre retirement planning are

1559
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 2: pretty much something to cover most investment need to knowes.

1560
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 2: Milford's job, of course, is to help grow your money

1561
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: through wires, investing and managing the risks accordingly to the

1562
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: rewards that you're working towards. Money goals dot co dot

1563
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: inzet so. Past performance not a reliable indicator of future performance,

1564
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: of course. And Milford Funds Limited they are the issuer

1565
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: of the Milford Queusaber Plan the Milford Investment Funds. They're

1566
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: at Milford Asset dot com, which is super easy to

1567
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: remember milfordesset dot com. Read that relevant Milford product disclosure

1568
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 2: statement and their financial advice provider disclosure statements as well.

1569
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: Asking Mike's partner and dad's hard to my two girls

1570
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: smokes meth. He was a successful business owner, he lost

1571
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 2: his business, his kids don't want to be around him,

1572
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: his lost his friends. He gets to the strip clubs

1573
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: and he gets it delivered by Uber Eat. It's wrecking

1574
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: all our lives. It's unbelievable, is that Mike Ir was

1575
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: pregnant with my youngest child almost ten years ago. My

1576
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: midwife asked me the mandatory question if I used p

1577
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 2: I said no. She told me one third of her

1578
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: clients actively use PEA. Mike always wondered why when someone

1579
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: gets offered meth that they say, well, why not? I've

1580
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: only heard good things about it. Mike, your politicians have

1581
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: not provided a solution to the myth. Well, it's not

1582
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: their job to provide a solution. That's That's one of

1583
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: the biggest problems we face in this country is that

1584
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: everyone wants everyone else to solve their problem. The answer,

1585
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: the answer to any particular problem is don't. In this case,

1586
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: don't it. Don't say yes? Don't you know? Goodness sake,

1587
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: how hard can it be? Burr Island, By the way,

1588
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: Robert Plant has posted, so we've confirmed this. Robert Plant

1589
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: is a fan of Burr Island. On socials in January

1590
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: of this year, a special weave of voice andharmony dot

1591
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: dot dot impressive and he saw them perform in London

1592
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty three, so it took him a

1593
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: while over Christmas. So we went to the show in

1594
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: December of twenty three, and by the latter part of

1595
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: January got onto the socials and said, I'd better say something.

1596
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: So Robert Plant likes, likes Burr Island and Ky Now

1597
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: the budget. I wonder if we hadn't spent enough time

1598
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: on the Australian budget, given it's so close and we

1599
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: all want to go there anyway. It was one of

1600
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: those like it's just so blatant, such a giveaway, such

1601
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: a bribe, it's almost unbelievable, and yet there it was

1602
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: for all to see last night. Steve Price is next.

1603
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only report you need to start your day

1604
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: the my Casting Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement Communities, Life

1605
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: Your Way News tog SADB.

1606
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: Quickly back to America. Trumpy today is in the cabinet room.

1607
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: He's got all the ambassadors, the USA ambassadors there for

1608
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: a chin wag. But of course the only thing we're

1609
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: talking about is this, this complete shambles that's unfolded. But

1610
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: he's sticking to his line.

1611
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 18: We have an amazing group or national security now is

1612
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 18: stronger than it's ever been there was no classified information.

1613
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 18: As I understand it.

1614
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 24: They used a.

1615
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 18: A app, if you want to call it an app

1616
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 18: that a lot of people use, a lot of people

1617
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 18: in government use, a lot of people in the media used.

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: I think we do call it an app, don't we.

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: It is in deed day, straight up and down, bona

1620
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: fide app. Anyway, he's definting Walts, of course, he said,

1621
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: Walts my mistakes, not the end of the world. And

1622
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: what they do, of course is Walts has a crack

1623
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: at everybody else the lesson.

1624
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 15: There was a lot of journalists in this city who

1625
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 15: have made big names for themselves making up lies about

1626
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 15: this president, whether it's the Russia hoax or making up

1627
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 15: lies about gold Star families, and this one in particular,

1628
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 15: I've never, don't know, never communicated with, and we are

1629
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 15: and we are looking into and reviewing how the heck

1630
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 15: he got into this room. But I'll tell you what

1631
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 15: the world owes President Trump a.

1632
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 16: Favor, international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1633
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 16: mind for New Zealand business.

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 2: I think, how the heck you got into the room,

1635
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: as he was let him by mister Boltz on the

1636
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: the app. If you want to call it that, Steve,

1637
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: how are you good morning? What an absolute?

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Speaker 5: I mean?

1639
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 3: Is it just me?

1640
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: But they have no money less than no money deficits forever,

1641
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: and yet they're going to pay for your doctor, pay

1642
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: for your power, pay for your cost of living, give

1643
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,879
Speaker 2: you a tax cut. I mean, are they serious?

1644
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 5: We've become a handout nation, no doubt about that. And look,

1645
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 5: I think is it going to work for them electorally?

1646
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 5: Potentially it will? And I think the lids have come

1647
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 5: up with a pretty clear line though. This is a

1648
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 5: budget for the next five weeks, not a budget for

1649
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 5: the next five years. And I say that, of course

1650
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 5: because an election get called on the weekend and will

1651
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 5: have it in May. And you're right, the numbers are

1652
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 5: I watering. The deficit this year or this financial year

1653
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 5: is predicted to be forty two billion dollars. So that

1654
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 5: means clearly we spend forty two billion more than we

1655
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 5: bring in in tax. Take another revenue, and if you

1656
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 5: look at the gross debt for Australia, it's nine hundred

1657
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 5: and forty billion dollars at the end of the twenty

1658
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 5: four to twenty five financial year. So what does a

1659
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 5: government that's responsible of handling taxpayer's money. Well, they announced

1660
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 5: a seventeen billion dollar tax cut over the next two

1661
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 5: years between twenty six and twenty seven. Well, well that

1662
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 5: means to you as an individual, will you get a

1663
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 5: whopping five hundred and thirty six dollars annually or five

1664
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 5: dollars a week this year and then ten dollars next year.

1665
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 5: I mean, it's already been talked about as a takeaway

1666
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 5: coffee ride by the government to lead up to the election,

1667
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 5: and that's what it is. And they've got a line

1668
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 5: in the budget there there's a reasonably modest one point

1669
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 5: five to billion on decisions not yet taken. So we've

1670
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 5: watched over the last couple of weeks huge amounts of

1671
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 5: money spent on medic care and education. That means they've

1672
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 5: got one thy five hundred million dollars to dole out

1673
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 5: between now an election day on other election promises, and

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01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 5: you'll see them come pretty quickly.

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01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: I've got many questions, one of which why don't they

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01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: means test any of it, you know, the power thing?

1677
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 2: For example, why are you giving that money to millionaires?

1678
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 5: They say it's too hard to and will be too

1679
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 5: take too long to work out how to means test it.

1680
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 5: So yes, me who don't need anything from government, I

1681
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 5: don't really like taking it, will automatically have it taken

1682
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 5: off my power bill. And then that's the other thing.

1683
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 5: The government doesn't send you that money. The power companies

1684
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 5: are told that they're the ones they've got to process

1685
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 5: the discounts on your energy, which are very modest and

1686
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 5: don't mean much to anybody at all.

1687
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: And we've then got the tax take which is at

1688
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: record level, so they're bringing in more tax than ever,

1689
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: and yet they still can't make ends meat. How does

1690
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 2: Charmers live with himself? I mean, I mean, that's not

1691
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: how we run our lives. I mean, it's not like

1692
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: he hasn't got any tax take. He's got record tax take,

1693
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: and yet he still can't make ends meet.

1694
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 5: He's got record tax cap mainly because of what we

1695
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 5: call bracket creep. To explain that that means, because we've

1696
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 5: had inflation so high for the last five or six years,

1697
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 5: people have been pushed into upper level tax brackets that

1698
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 5: they were just on the verge of falling into and

1699
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 5: now are in. And so the tax cake take flowing

1700
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 5: into the government compace is huge, and yet we still

1701
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 5: can't balance the budget. It is irresponsible. I haven't seen

1702
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 5: one economist today suggest that it was a good budget financially.

1703
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 5: Most people are criticize to have been a quick cash

1704
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 5: dash to an election. I think one of the things

1705
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 5: you might be interested in is the housing policy. Now

1706
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 5: I've got to look more at more details here, but

1707
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 5: they're calling it a crackdown on foreigners buying home so

1708
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 5: that presumably means includes New Zealand two year ban on

1709
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 5: foreigners buying existing property in Australia. But the kicker here

1710
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 5: is that doesn't start until April one. April Fool's Day.

1711
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 5: Very appropriate because if you are a Chinese investor, just

1712
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 5: as an example, and you want to buy yourself a

1713
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 5: twenty million dollar house on the fringes of Sydney Harbor

1714
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 5: in the East and sobs of Sydney, what are.

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Speaker 22: You going to do?

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 5: You're going to bring your real estate agent enough today

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Speaker 5: and say, mate, I'll buy that place you told me

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01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 5: I may be able to get. I'll offer you as

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01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 5: much money as you like, because I need to buy

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Speaker 5: it before April one. I mean, they don't live in

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 5: the real world, and they've got a thirty three billion

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01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 5: dollar plan in this budget to slash the cost of housing.

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 5: How many houses do you think they have built out

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Speaker 5: of their target at one point two million?

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Speaker 2: Not enough?

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Speaker 5: Forty five sturs only and net migration we see that

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Speaker 5: in the budget that's blown out this year by seventy

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Speaker 5: five thousand. So we're bringing in three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 5: five thousand migrants into Australia in a country that says

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Speaker 5: it's got a housing crisis where they can't put people

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Speaker 5: in houses. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Here's your next problem. How much of the coalition are

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: going yeah, we'll match that. So in other words, you

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01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: don't if you, god forbid, were a fiscal conservative and

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01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: actually wanted the country to pay its way, you don't

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01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 2: really have a choice.

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,759
Speaker 5: Well, Angus Taylor, the Shadow treasure was on the ABC

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01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 5: and said that they believe that these tax cuts are

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01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 5: irresponsible and that they don't really amount to income tax reform.

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 5: Now the reform is the word that's important there. But

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Speaker 5: Peter Dunton will make a budget in reply speech Thursday night.

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 5: Don't be surprised if they actually make a tax announcement

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01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 5: that costs more than what the government has announced overnight,

1744
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 5: but it won't be fiddling around five dollars a week

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01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 5: at the edges. It'll do something. I imagine it'll do

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01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 5: something to the tax level. We where your tax reform

1747
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 5: really works, where you decide what the tax rates.

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Speaker 22: Are going to be.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's where they will play in that area.

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01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: Given the whole thing and the storm sort of put

1751
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: this on the back bone Ofer now. So he's going

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01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: to the Governor General almost certainly this weekend. So you're

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01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: going we're back into election mode. Have you changed your

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: mind at all minority government, No, not at all.

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01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 5: It's probably reinforced it. I think there will meet more

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01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 5: people here will go well neither side. He is really

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01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 5: doing the things that I would want them to do.

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01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 5: There's a handout mentality that will work in Labour's favor.

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,879
Speaker 5: But I think the minority party is particularly the Tills

1760
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 5: in the more affluent seats and the poll Enhansen Party

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01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 5: in the wider metropolitan area. They will perhaps put their

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01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 5: vote in their hands and you'll see come election night,

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01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 5: Anthony Albani is he's scraping by the smallest or have

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 5: a minority government where he's got to do a deal

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01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 5: with whoever survives this election. On the Independent front benches.

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01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, a good weekend. We'll catch up next week. Steve

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Speaker 2: Price out of Australia this morning for US eight forty.

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Speaker 1: Five The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B It is twelve minutes away from nine. Just the electorates,

1771
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: by the way, that we didn't cover apart from Ginny.

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01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking hut South expands to take part of

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01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: Newland's I should tell you before I get to that.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention from Australia the other day Reggie

1775
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: the Rabbit, which I raised on Monday. Very few people

1776
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 2: in the media in this country have covered Reggie the Rabbit,

1777
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: and they should have. Charlie Gallico is Reggie the Rabbit

1778
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 2: and he went and whacked a nine year old Cronulla

1779
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: fan and so that was on social media because his

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01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: mother posted it on social media. I'd like to apologize

1781
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: to Benji and his parents. I should never have pushed

1782
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 2: Benji mother with a child posted on social media claiming

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01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,839
Speaker 2: that Gallico had assaulted his son. They met on yesterday

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: three parties, Mum, the Sun and the Rabbit to clear

1785
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 2: up that. I don't know. Charlie went as the rabbit.

1786
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: Do you go if you're a mascot called Reggie, do

1787
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: you go as Ridgie or do you go as Charlie?

1788
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,839
Speaker 2: Or do you go look maybe just half the costume

1789
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: or would you just while you start out as half

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01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: the rabbit and go? Would you like me to put

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01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: my hood on now?

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01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: Sa?

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Speaker 11: I mean don't wear the punchy bits.

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01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 2: Anyway. So that's been sort of where was I? So

1795
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: hut south expanse to take in part of Newland's Rumatuka

1796
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: moves southwards an area around a poony. More importantly, and

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01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: more interestingly, the two electorates that are gone, well, the

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01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 2: two new electorates are going to be called Kenna Peru

1799
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: and Capadie and so they're created from bits of Bhario

1800
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: Manu and O Tacki. They're gone, so Ohario's gregor' connor's

1801
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: patch of course, formerly Peter Done Marna is Barbara Edmonds place.

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01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: O Taki is Tim Costley national MP. So they want

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01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: to see Wellington's wrong Atti gain bits of Mount Cook

1804
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 2: and Brooklyn, which is good because Brooklyn's a nice If

1805
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 2: I owned wrong Atai as an electorate, I'd want Brooklyn

1806
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: in there. But then again and Wellington Central loses those

1807
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 2: areas but moves north into Wadestown, Nio and Kindala.

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01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 11: It's a bit like playing monopoly, isn't it. Can I

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01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 11: put a hotel on it?

1810
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you want Wadestown in Kindala? Candala's really Mayfair and

1811
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 2: Wadestown is what what's Wadestown Bond Street? I think it's great.

1812
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 11: I feel a customized board coming on Nio is yellow.

1813
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 2: I think NIO's probably yellow. No insult to Nai. You're

1814
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: just not Wadestown in Candala. I mean, yeah, I'm sure

1815
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: you think you are, but you're not, certainly not. Last

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01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: time I went through n you'll know Wadestown or words

1817
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 2: to that effect.

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01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 11: I thought it was a good strategy to buy those

1819
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 11: cheap ones as quickly as you could.

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01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 2: That's what I do on the monopoly. But what you

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 2: want is, of course, is Mayfair and the Greens. But

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01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 2: you never go there because the cost of the hotel's

1823
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: too much. And I think that's what you'd find in

1824
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: Nio as well. Anyway, in Auckland, they're just mucking around

1825
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: with it. Nothing actually goes or changes. I don't know

1826
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: what happened to Andrew gets yesterday, who's busy on the

1827
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: news all day telling is how IPSUL was going to

1828
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: disappear and Epsen didn't go anywhere, so I don't know

1829
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 2: what's going on there. So those are the electoral changes.

1830
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: And as I said to Junior a moment ago, sort

1831
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 2: of doesn't matter because MMP solved all those problems anyway,

1832
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: hasn't it? Nine Away from nine the.

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Speaker 1: Mike asking breakfast with the range rover Villa News.

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Speaker 2: Toddsad been Mike, you forgot crafton Downs? Steve. Crofton Downs

1835
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: isn't real, is it? It's one of those areas that

1836
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: you go. No one knows where crafton Downs is, or

1837
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 2: they sort of heard somebody who might live in crafton Downs.

1838
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: You live in Kendala, or you live in Wadestown, or

1839
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 2: you live in Nio, or you live in Fendleton, or

1840
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 2: you live in rem neu Era. But yeah, crafton Downs

1841
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: is one of those made up areas, you know what

1842
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean? Sort of a new area where they go

1843
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 2: what should we call it? Crofton Downs? Until of course

1844
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: they made everything Marray names so that they wouldn't call

1845
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: it crafton Downs these days, would they? By the way,

1846
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: I've got some very good news from my wife. The

1847
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: story I was boring you with earlier on about how

1848
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: I had to lift eight and twelve kg waights that

1849
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: arrived in the house yesterday. As it turns out, they

1850
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: weren't twelve and eight kg waits at all. They were

1851
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: twelve and fifteen kg waits. So what I thought I

1852
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: was lifting at twelve was actually for fan So I'm

1853
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm quite powerful.

1854
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 11: And there were there was a pair, so you actually

1855
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 11: compare of them.

1856
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was lifting thirty kg's, so.

1857
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 11: Just getting the weights delivered as kind of a workout.

1858
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 2: Getting the weights delivered is and there weren't only the

1859
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: fifteens and the twelves, but there were also eights I think,

1860
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 2: so eight twelves and fifteen's, you know.

1861
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 5: And so.

1862
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 2: Just saying open the thirty kg's without too much noise,

1863
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: just a little bit of that, but apart from that,

1864
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 2: no worries. Five minutes away from nine.

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01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year.

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01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 2: Right now, I got for your movie Tied, I've got

1867
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,480
Speaker 2: the sixth installment of Final Destination, so the Final Destination franchise,

1868
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 2: so we have as the sixth installment Final destination bloodlines.

1869
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: So what happens here is a college student experiencing a

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01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 2: recurring nightmare that foretells her family's demise, returns home to

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01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: find the person who can prevent it. And this is

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01:27:59,360 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: what it sounds like.

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01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 11: Family.

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01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: You don't get to pick the one you get.

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 5: Just got to love the one you got it.

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01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 24: I always knew this day would come.

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01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 2: I got it. I don't think you got it.

1878
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 24: If I held him off for years.

1879
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 21: Death is coming for our family.

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01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: We saved a lot of lives that night, everything of

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01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: lives that were never meant to be saved.

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01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: Death doesn't like it when you mess.

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01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:28,919
Speaker 24: With his plans.

1884
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 20: Maybe that's not actually coming for our family, because that

1885
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 20: would be crazy.

1886
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: Good luck.

1887
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: Why is death him? You know it's the reference there.

1888
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: Death doesn't like it when you miss with his plans.

1889
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: Was it him? By the way, Kate, it's I feel.

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 14: You feel like death because obviously you know it is

1891
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 14: hanging over you now that you've downed sixteenth clearly can

1892
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 14: and you feel it's more of a feminine kind of

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01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 14: a fourth.

1894
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: Good nicely put. Glenn First came out twenty eleven. This

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01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: one's out May sixteen. We looked at who's in it,

1896
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: and couldn't see a single person we knew, not one.

1897
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 11: Apart from death are you're increasingly well acquainted with?

1898
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: Watch that weird movie that's on at the moment on

1899
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: Netflix where they have a single shot of everyone. It's

1900
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: about the Mendesspei and adolescens. Yeah, Katie watched its crap,

1901
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: so I didn't. I refuse to because I saw the

1902
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: trailer and I said to Ernest she went ahead with it,

1903
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: and she concluded she wasted her entire life, and whatever

1904
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 2: you see on the net about it being brilliant is wrong.

1905
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 11: Meanwhile, Jason's both bouncing her hand going oh.

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01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 2: Bit dark, bit dark Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,240
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