1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Some alarming, if not shocking figures around our public transport 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: in Auckland, a service with already an appalling reputation of 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: course in terms of delivery, we now know they are 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: dealing with more than ninety three incidents a week. In 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: terms of security issues on the trains, that's in average 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: of eighty three. We're talking assaults and robberies and thefts. Now, 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: what's being done about this is the Mayor of Auckland. 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: There's Wayne Brown of course as well. It's Wayne morning, 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: good morning. These numbers. Is this actually you or is 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: it Auckland Transport or is it the contractor or is 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: it all of us? 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: That's probably a reflection of society unfortunately. I mean in 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: the paby yesterday there's shocking numbers of the kids who 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: aren't going to school and I mean none of them 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: are going angry up to be tradesmen or doctors, and 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: so that's frightening as well. So there is an issue 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: right across the whole of society, and people get shot 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: and the constably in a bar. You know, it's and 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: transport is reflecting it. I mean, one of the drawbacks 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: about them increasing their percentage of people on catching on transport, 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: which is good that more people are getting on buses, 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: but more of the wrong people as well as the 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: right people as well, obviously. 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's your problem though, isn't it. Because you 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: want to encourage public transport and people get a reputation 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: which it already has a reputation that's dangerous, they won't 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: use it. 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: There's a problem, There's no question about that. And I 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: mean it's not as if atue it's got a particularly 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: high public appreciation levels. They aim for city and got 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: twenty four and then they told we got a twenty 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: percent increase to twenty eight, which is still not very good. Mate. 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: But the right across the whole of our society, things 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: have got bad. There's sort of you know, the sort 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: of people that go in to supermarkets and refuse to 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: pay and walk out and everyone's too scared to hit them. 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: They're on a bus and saying telling a bus drivers, oh, 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: we're not going to pay, what are you going to 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: do about it? And I mean the bus drivers are 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: port bushe We've just spent six million dollars set aside 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: and it's being spent right now putting protection around a 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: bus driver. A bus drivers are a moderately lowly paid 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: job of doing providing a service for all of us, 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: and it shouldn't be dangerous. I mean, the whole thing's appalling, 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: and you can't afford to have a policeman on every bus, 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: but the police have agreed to be more at the hubs, 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: at the transport hubs, and occasionally get on the bus. 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: I said, you can get on free, just right. You're 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: seen on the buses regularly, you know, just so that 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: people except that there might be a bust. 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: So is that the answer? I mean, there's one of 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: several lines that I can work out. Either you get 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: the cops on the bus or security on the bus 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: or the trains or whatever the case may be. Or 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: you cage the driver up, or you train the driver 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: to defend or do something about it. But that's all cost, 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: isn't it. 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: We have spent them, we've push it aside the money, 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: and we are caging the driver to protect him. But 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: you can't cage every passenger. And the risks on the 61 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: buses are actually statistically about the same as a risk 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: on the street, just getting risk. No, it's not good. 63 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is essentially we've got to actually 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: learn to behave better. 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be a good idea? 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be great? But well, well I think the 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: judges are going to be tough enough, but too much understanding. 68 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: I had a bad trial too or something or you know. 69 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's central government, doesn't it. While I've got 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: you this speedway thing, how long, lay laborious and boring, 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: was a seven hour meeting over why like a record 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: park for God's sake? 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't enjoy it, and so it was brought 74 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: to a clothes using some systems, and the upset people 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: because they said they need a chance to speak. I mean, 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: essentially the speedway. I'm a great favor of getting more 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: use out of what we've got, and I have had 78 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: to put up the people from rugby League saying we 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: can't plan the same paddox as rugby union. I'm going 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: you can't at the same time, but you can't after 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: each other. And we've got why Cracker Park, which is 82 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: an area where people don't really complain about the noise, 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: and the operator's happy to go there. The guy puts 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: his money into it and actually takes the risk, and 85 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: where there be eleven million dollars spent tarting the place up, 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: and we give him a proper track and decent billets 87 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: and things. It's kind of like it's moderately sensible to me. 88 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: And of course, of course, if you do anything, you 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: piss somebody else, and so that people don't like any change. 90 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: And I mean Queen Street used to be a farm, 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: but it's not any more oldly enough. 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Change happens probably to be frank, have you been down 93 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Queen Street lately? 94 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: Well, we won't go there. I do go down Queen 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: Street at all, And but it could be a lot 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: nicer and and change happens, and there's been sure. I 97 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: quite like Speedway, and I've got mates are deeply involved, 98 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: and we're not canceling speed but I've given them a 99 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: place which for thirty years. They've got a lease there 100 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: with an operation along its along with stock cart. It 101 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: becomes a center for that open wheel sport. They get 102 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: eleven million bills out of the savings from not men 103 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: to cover the cost it Western Springs and something else 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: that but other than it is at Western Springs, but 105 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: it'll be something else there. And it was just kind 106 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: of like we've got to we're going to move on 107 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: sometimes and it's just hard to do anything. I think 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: we've got to be a bit more happy about This 109 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: is a positive change and it guarantees those people security 110 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: for thirty years in an area where people will be 111 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: more heavy about it. 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: My view, Wayne could catch up with you. Appreciate very much, 113 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: Wayne Brown, Mayor Balkland. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, 115 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.