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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp from News Talks at Bay.

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Speaker 2: The house is a hole even when it's darns, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overgrown in the yard, even when.

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Speaker 3: A dog is too old to bar.

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Speaker 2: And when you're sitting at the table trying not to

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Speaker 2: start scissor home, even when we leave a band gone,

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Speaker 2: even when you're there alone. A house is a hole

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Speaker 2: even when those goes, Even when you got around from

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Speaker 2: the world you love your move scream does pain to

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Speaker 2: be an in funder LOCALSSBRE when they're gone.

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Speaker 3: Well, very good morning, and welcome along to the Resident

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Speaker 3: Builder on Sunday. My name's Peak wolf Camp and this

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Speaker 3: is a program well pretty much all about your place.

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Speaker 3: So if you've got a project that's underway, or you've

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Speaker 3: got some house maintenance tasks that you want to undertake.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know whoever came up with the idea

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Speaker 3: of maintenance free, I think deserves well halfway decent flogging.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, there is no such thing. There's always

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Speaker 3: work to do. That's what I've spent a reasonable amount

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Speaker 3: of this week doing. With a fairly long list of

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Speaker 3: tasks to achieve over the summer months, and I'm guessing

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Speaker 3: that if you own or occupy a property, then you've

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Speaker 3: probably got that list similar to mine. Is in fact,

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Speaker 3: even this morning, as I tried to sneak out of

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Speaker 3: the house just a little bit quietly, notice that the

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Speaker 3: hinges on the front door have lost all of their

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Speaker 3: previous lubrication. And there's that gentle sort of squeaking sound

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Speaker 3: as I try and close the front door quietly without

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Speaker 3: waking the rest of the household. So that's another job

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Speaker 3: to go on the list. Do you actually make a list,

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Speaker 3: That'll be an interesting question too, or is it just

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Speaker 3: that thing that sort of rumbles round in your head, going,

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Speaker 3: I've got to do. I've got to do. I've got

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Speaker 3: to do. I've got to get that done. I've got

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Speaker 3: to get that sorted out. Anyway, if we want to

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Speaker 3: talk building all morning till right through till nine o'clock,

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Speaker 3: we will do exactly that. Eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. I trust you've had

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Speaker 3: a good week. If you might have had just a

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Speaker 3: slightly sleepless week as you've been catching up with the

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Speaker 3: America's Cup racing off bus Slona that has now come

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Speaker 3: to a conclusion and of course congratulations to Emirates Team

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Speaker 3: New Zealand for a fantastic victory there. So at around

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Speaker 3: six thirty this morning, actually we're going to touch base

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Speaker 3: with Richard from Razine. He's part of the Automotive and

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Speaker 3: Specialist Finisher's division Coating's division, and it's basically we might

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Speaker 3: have found the secret source for the reason that the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand boat is so fast, and that is pretty

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Speaker 3: much that it's covered in razine coatings. So anyway, he's

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Speaker 3: there in Barcelona, so we'll get a sense of the

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Speaker 3: the technology and the development behind razine coatings that allow

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Speaker 3: it to be applied to those vessels and apparently possibly

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Speaker 3: to a number of other nations America's cupboats as well,

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Speaker 3: So we touch base with them at around six thirty.

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Speaker 3: Then we will also touch base with our regular contributor

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Speaker 3: from Razine, So painting questions, specific painting questions from seven

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Speaker 3: thirty this morning. Bryce McDermott, our painting expert from Razine,

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Speaker 3: will be joining us then so you can text through

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Speaker 3: your questions. Any specific painting questions. Nine to ninety two

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Speaker 3: is the text number is BZB. We'll take those. And

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Speaker 3: then I had a chance this week just leting you

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Speaker 3: know what's coming up on the show today, to catch

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Speaker 3: up with Marlon Johnson, who is from Late four Solar,

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Speaker 3: who are the sponsors of the show, and we were

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Speaker 3: talking about solar and we had Marlon on a couple

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Speaker 3: they work, installation, where you can put them where you can't.

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Speaker 3: But what we didn't really get a chance to talk

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Speaker 3: interconnection between those two parts of a solar setup. So

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Speaker 3: I've invited Marlin to come back on the show. He'll

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Speaker 3: be with us after eight o'clock. And if you've ever

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Speaker 3: At eight o'clock this morning, we'll take your questions about

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Speaker 3: things solar after eight o'clock and of course thirty at

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Speaker 3: climb Past will be in his studio which is in

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Speaker 3: if you've got a project like me, and you're thinking,

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Speaker 3: I've got to do something about that squeaky door, or

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Speaker 3: maybe it's a little bit more significant, i e. You know,

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Speaker 3: might have discovered a leak, or you've got some rot

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Speaker 3: doing the job that I do, because everywhere I walk

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for things. And I pulled up at my

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Speaker 3: become a really big job. I mean, it's a beautiful

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Speaker 3: you can just see a little bit of mold growth

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Speaker 3: And that's what we're looking to avoid, is that whole

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Speaker 3: later on. Maybe someone could have told Ekipnuku that. In Auckland,

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Speaker 3: developing the viaduct put in a funky bridge. Apparently temporarily

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Speaker 3: for ten million dollars to repair it, and it's been

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Speaker 3: a massive disruption. But anyway, I only mentioned that because

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Speaker 3: if the bridge was working, but it's not, and so

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Speaker 3: to do. Anyway, my rant is over. It is your

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Speaker 3: Welcome and good morning to you. Chris. Hello there, good

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Speaker 3: chrisp hang on, it's there we go, Chris, Good morning, Chris.

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Speaker 4: Mate. It's a bit of a pathetic question to be

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Speaker 4: honest at all. But basically, I've got an old one

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Speaker 5: Circus on the door of the door on it has

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Speaker 5: got three hinges, yes, the middle one the hinge pin

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Speaker 4: It's been fined for twenty odd years, but it's started

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Speaker 4: of keep hamming it back in. And I wasn't sure

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Speaker 4: whether it was I was going to try seperately, but

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Speaker 4: then I thought that might stop the hinge working even worse.

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Speaker 3: So when you say the hinge, when you say the

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Speaker 3: hinges working out, is it that the screws have started

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Speaker 3: if the hinge is not working particularly well, it starts

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Speaker 5: Is that what's happening, that's the center hinge.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the pin itself is dropping out.

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Speaker 4: Pulling out. It's from the top, so it's pulling out

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Speaker 3: So what it's rising? Yeah, ah, unusual. I mean gravity

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you think so that.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of a it's between the lounge and our

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Speaker 4: So continuous squeaking. Sometimes I just don't bother thirteam for

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Speaker 4: a better week, but it just gets irritating.

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Speaker 3: Understandably, it is a bit unusual that the pin works

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Speaker 3: its way up the hinge might be misaligned or something

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Speaker 3: like that. Look I would I would probably just tap

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Speaker 4: A bet a week?

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Speaker 3: About a week? Man, it must be out of alignment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that were either some sort of pressure things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you wanted to, what you could

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Speaker 3: try and do is tap it out right, So tap

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Speaker 3: the pin out all the way to the top. And

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Speaker 3: it must be a replacement hinge, because old hinges like

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Speaker 3: that don't. You can't tap the pin out. It's only

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Speaker 3: more modern hinges where you can tap the pin out

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Speaker 3: in some cases. So some hinges have got the pin

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Speaker 3: you can't remove the pin, which stops someone taking the

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Speaker 3: your house. Or most domestic doors have the pin that

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Speaker 3: drops in from the top. Gravity holds it in place effectively,

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Speaker 3: and if you ever need to take the door off,

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Speaker 3: you can just knock the pin out and take it out.

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Speaker 3: I would say, probably if it's working its way out,

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Speaker 3: I'd knock it out, So just use a nail punch

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Speaker 3: to drive it up and then hok it out. Give

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Speaker 3: the actual pin a bit of a sand put a

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Speaker 3: little bit of you can get special like graphite lubricants

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Speaker 3: that work particularly well on hinges and hardware and door

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Speaker 3: locks and things like that. A little bit of that,

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Speaker 3: drop that back in and that should just free it

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Speaker 3: up enough that it'll stay in place, would be my suggestion.

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Speaker 3: I think someone else has text through the same thing.

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Speaker 3: So Chris, good luck on that one. If it's type

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Speaker 3: removed sand loop and put back in place.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And there are these. I had it for some

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Speaker 3: door locks, like actually putting inside the door lock every

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Speaker 3: now and then they can get a bit corroded or

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Speaker 3: exposed or something like that. And there's a special type

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Speaker 3: of graphite lubricant so it's actually feels like it's a

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Speaker 3: black powdery type material. You biden a little bottle and

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Speaker 3: just inject that into the locks as well. That makes

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Speaker 3: a big difference. But there is also what I pick

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Speaker 3: up the other day, some garage door. So if you've

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Speaker 3: got an older sort of sliding track garage door, and

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Speaker 3: again lubricant on that has deteriorated, you can apply it's

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Speaker 3: out of a spray into the air as well. So

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Speaker 3: there's some good stuff out there. Oh eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty. Were talking all things building in construction this

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Speaker 3: Coating's division. Richard, A very well, good evening to you

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Speaker 10: Yeah, good evening, teat How are you, critics.

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Speaker 3: I'm very well and I would imagine it's a fairly

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Speaker 10: Now, I'm about one hundred yards from the main stage

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we've been involved with Emra's Team New Zealand for

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Speaker 10: New Zealand have chosen our product, Durapox for many, many years,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to let you enjoy the celebrations. I think

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Peter. Fantastic for New Zealand to be involved

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a magnificent achievement. Really appreciate you taking the time,

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Speaker 3: contributor to the success of Emirates Team New Zealand and

432
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Speaker 3: Barcelona and defending their ownership they're holding of the America's Cup.

433
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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, your News Talk Seed B will

434
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Speaker 3: take your calls and we will be talking specifically about painting,

435
00:23:01,895 --> 00:23:03,895
Speaker 3: maybe not something as high tech as trying to paint

436
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Speaker 3: your America's Cup boat in the next hour, but if

437
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Speaker 3: you've got a painting project coming up and you need

438
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Speaker 3: specific advice from our painting experts, then text me now

439
00:23:12,135 --> 00:23:16,495
Speaker 3: nine to nine two and Bryce McDermott, our painting expert

440
00:23:16,575 --> 00:23:19,135
Speaker 3: from Razine, will be with us at around seven thirty

441
00:23:19,295 --> 00:23:22,095
Speaker 3: this morning. But right now we're talking all things building.

442
00:23:22,095 --> 00:23:25,655
Speaker 3: If you've got a question a maintenance one, hardware, hinges,

443
00:23:26,255 --> 00:23:32,695
Speaker 3: maintenance repairs, alterations, new builds, products, trades people, get in

444
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Speaker 3: the right trades person. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

445
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Speaker 3: the number to call call us now your News Talk,

446
00:23:38,655 --> 00:23:41,975
Speaker 3: said B. If you've got a question of a building nature,

447
00:23:42,095 --> 00:23:43,975
Speaker 3: then we've got a couple of spell lines for you

448
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Speaker 3: right now. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can also

449
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Speaker 3: text through any questions nine to nine two, and if

450
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Speaker 3: you'd like to send me an email, I've got back

451
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Speaker 3: into the system. You can email me. It's Pete at

452
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Speaker 3: Newstalk SEDB dot co dot nz. So Pete at NEWSTALKSEDB

453
00:23:59,695 --> 00:24:02,495
Speaker 3: dot co dot nz. If you want to send through

454
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Speaker 3: pictures or something like that, which you can't do on

455
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Speaker 3: the text machine. I know we can text pictures typically

456
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Speaker 3: between phones, but that doesn't work when you're trying to

457
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Speaker 3: send them in to me via the nine two nine two.

458
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Speaker 3: But your texts are more than welcome. Oh eight hundred

459
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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty, though, is the number to call. We

460
00:24:17,735 --> 00:24:19,895
Speaker 3: always get a bit busy towards the end of the show,

461
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Speaker 3: so if you've got a question, now is a very

462
00:24:21,895 --> 00:24:26,375
Speaker 3: very good time to phone through. Eight hundred eighty ten

463
00:24:26,535 --> 00:24:30,615
Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call. A couple more comments

464
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Speaker 3: that have come in on the text Claire, there was

465
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Speaker 3: rather baffling one. I hadn't watched the America's Cup and

466
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Speaker 3: was lying on you not to say anything. We're a

467
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Speaker 3: news station. What else do you think we're going to do?

468
00:24:46,015 --> 00:24:49,135
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

469
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Speaker 3: And common problem apparently take the pin out replaced from

470
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Speaker 3: the bottom. I'm not such about replacing it from the bottom.

471
00:24:54,695 --> 00:24:56,175
Speaker 3: I think you just drive it in from the top.

472
00:24:56,695 --> 00:24:58,415
Speaker 3: But a little bit of lubricant that means that it

473
00:24:58,455 --> 00:25:01,655
Speaker 3: just doesn't bind and work its way upwards as it

474
00:25:02,095 --> 00:25:04,495
Speaker 3: as you open and close the door. The reason we

475
00:25:04,535 --> 00:25:07,215
Speaker 3: got on to talking about that was was thinking, as

476
00:25:07,255 --> 00:25:12,815
Speaker 3: always about repairs and maintenance, and as I was leaving

477
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Speaker 3: the house earlier this morning, an hour or so ago,

478
00:25:16,855 --> 00:25:20,975
Speaker 3: the we've got an old door, old hinges every now

479
00:25:21,015 --> 00:25:23,855
Speaker 3: and then they need a little bit of lubricant to

480
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Speaker 3: stop them squeaking, and I haven't done that for a

481
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Speaker 3: little while. And so as I'm trying to close the

482
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Speaker 3: door quietly this morning, there is not a terribly loud

483
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Speaker 3: squeaking sound, but it was. It was there. So that's

484
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Speaker 3: another job on the list later on today, after I've

485
00:25:38,095 --> 00:25:40,815
Speaker 3: finished the jobs that I started yesterday but I didn't

486
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Speaker 3: get quite finished, which are sort of the same jobs

487
00:25:43,095 --> 00:25:45,535
Speaker 3: that I started on Friday, but realize that they're going

488
00:25:45,575 --> 00:25:47,975
Speaker 3: to take me a little bit longer. So this is

489
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Speaker 3: the nature of looking after your own property. Oh eight

490
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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to call, we'll

491
00:25:53,855 --> 00:25:56,175
Speaker 3: take your calls right now, Oh eight hundred eighty ten

492
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Speaker 3: eighty back in a month your news talks. The'd be

493
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Speaker 3: lines are open. The number of call, Oh, eight hundred

494
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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. Hello June, good morning, Good morning.

495
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Speaker 12: Now I'll try and explain it. I have a pump

496
00:26:09,615 --> 00:26:13,575
Speaker 12: on my lawn because I've got a very wet back section,

497
00:26:14,215 --> 00:26:17,055
Speaker 12: and it pumps the water off my sections onto the street.

498
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Speaker 12: I have a down pipe off my house between the

499
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Speaker 12: two bedrooms. My neighbor next door has a down pipe

500
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Speaker 12: off his garage his water. His downpipe comes across my place,

501
00:26:31,535 --> 00:26:35,295
Speaker 12: joins up with my lot, and goes out onto the street. Now,

502
00:26:35,455 --> 00:26:38,935
Speaker 12: this year, with all the heavy rain we've had, my

503
00:26:39,095 --> 00:26:42,615
Speaker 12: pump doesn't seem to be able to cope with all

504
00:26:43,015 --> 00:26:47,135
Speaker 12: of that water, and I've been having a great big

505
00:26:47,255 --> 00:26:51,575
Speaker 12: puddle on my backyard. How do I tell him to

506
00:26:51,775 --> 00:26:53,775
Speaker 12: disconnect with down pipe?

507
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Speaker 3: Can I just ask? Are your two properties joined together?

508
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Speaker 11: No?

509
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Speaker 12: They're not. No, I have a big sense between his

510
00:27:02,655 --> 00:27:06,255
Speaker 12: property and mind.

511
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Speaker 3: Okay, So, and the distance let's say, from the wooden

512
00:27:10,575 --> 00:27:13,215
Speaker 3: fence to the garage and then the distance from the

513
00:27:13,255 --> 00:27:17,935
Speaker 3: wooden fence to your house is how much roughly.

514
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Speaker 12: The distance between I'm in the bedroom now, I just

515
00:27:20,135 --> 00:27:22,935
Speaker 12: wanted to hear me exactly. My place in the garage

516
00:27:22,935 --> 00:27:28,335
Speaker 12: would be about three meters, okay, and then his down

517
00:27:28,455 --> 00:27:33,935
Speaker 12: pipe would be from the fence to his place about

518
00:27:33,935 --> 00:27:36,895
Speaker 12: a meter. He did when I first shifted in. The

519
00:27:36,975 --> 00:27:40,815
Speaker 12: down pipe wasn't always used to fall down, and the

520
00:27:40,815 --> 00:27:43,335
Speaker 12: water that fell off that refused to keep me awake

521
00:27:43,375 --> 00:27:46,855
Speaker 12: all night. I said, yes, I said to him, can

522
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Speaker 12: you connect it now? It's having trouble with the neighbor

523
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Speaker 12: on the other side as well, with water off his

524
00:27:52,695 --> 00:27:57,695
Speaker 12: property running over there. Okay, is a pain in the bars.

525
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Speaker 3: So and your properties are not joined. It's not a

526
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Speaker 3: cross lea situation. You're on your own title. They are

527
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Speaker 3: on their.

528
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Speaker 12: Own time, my own rights.

529
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Look, I mean to be fair. If

530
00:28:13,015 --> 00:28:15,215
Speaker 3: it was me, I just let go up to the

531
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Speaker 3: fence and cut the downpipe off and turn it round

532
00:28:18,655 --> 00:28:20,855
Speaker 3: and just poke it back onto his property. I know

533
00:28:20,935 --> 00:28:22,055
Speaker 3: that we'll eventually.

534
00:28:21,775 --> 00:28:24,855
Speaker 12: End up the ground though it's dug. It's on the ground.

535
00:28:26,855 --> 00:28:30,575
Speaker 12: He's got underground, so he must have done all that.

536
00:28:30,615 --> 00:28:33,215
Speaker 12: When some other person was here or when the house

537
00:28:33,335 --> 00:28:34,095
Speaker 12: was first built.

538
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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm wondering whether it may well be possible

539
00:28:41,135 --> 00:28:47,215
Speaker 3: that in order to the storm water, the public stormwater

540
00:28:47,335 --> 00:28:50,095
Speaker 3: line might be one of those ones that runs, you know,

541
00:28:50,495 --> 00:28:54,215
Speaker 3: across your property and goes through a number of properties. Right,

542
00:28:54,295 --> 00:28:58,095
Speaker 3: so everyone should connect into it on their own property.

543
00:28:58,135 --> 00:29:00,095
Speaker 3: You shouldn't. I don't think you should be able to

544
00:29:00,135 --> 00:29:04,735
Speaker 3: connect your stormwater via another neighbor's property into it.

545
00:29:04,735 --> 00:29:10,415
Speaker 12: It runs out my lot and off my roof and

546
00:29:10,455 --> 00:29:13,055
Speaker 12: off my property with this pump thing I've got on,

547
00:29:13,535 --> 00:29:17,895
Speaker 12: it runs along along the fence line on my side

548
00:29:18,255 --> 00:29:22,015
Speaker 12: and out onto the guttering, out into the out into

549
00:29:22,055 --> 00:29:24,255
Speaker 12: the gut you know the gas because I watch it.

550
00:29:24,535 --> 00:29:26,415
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I watch it.

551
00:29:27,135 --> 00:29:28,135
Speaker 12: It runs out there.

552
00:29:29,855 --> 00:29:32,255
Speaker 3: I am still kind of trying to get my head

553
00:29:32,295 --> 00:29:35,615
Speaker 3: around how this might all work. But the simple, the

554
00:29:35,935 --> 00:29:40,975
Speaker 3: simple factor is there. The neighbors stormwater should be controlled

555
00:29:41,135 --> 00:29:43,175
Speaker 3: on their property. It shouldn't have come.

556
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Speaker 12: Everybody tells me, yes, yes, yes. They also people say

557
00:29:48,175 --> 00:29:49,655
Speaker 12: to me, he's self aloud, there.

558
00:29:50,135 --> 00:29:53,535
Speaker 3: You can't drag your stormwater across into your neighbors and

559
00:29:54,055 --> 00:29:57,735
Speaker 3: attach it to that connection there. I mean, how do

560
00:29:57,775 --> 00:29:59,975
Speaker 3: you go about solving that I suppose in.

561
00:29:59,935 --> 00:30:02,975
Speaker 12: The end about telling him, well, it becomes.

562
00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:06,055
Speaker 3: I'm guessing, actually, that'll be a great question to ask,

563
00:30:06,055 --> 00:30:07,815
Speaker 3: because in the next couple of weeks we've got a

564
00:30:07,895 --> 00:30:10,575
Speaker 3: gentleman by the name of Ben Johnson who's going to

565
00:30:10,615 --> 00:30:13,855
Speaker 3: join me, and he's actually a lawyer specializing in property law,

566
00:30:15,135 --> 00:30:17,175
Speaker 3: and we were going to be talking about the Fencing

567
00:30:17,215 --> 00:30:18,775
Speaker 3: Act and those sorts of things. But I might be

568
00:30:18,815 --> 00:30:21,255
Speaker 3: able to get that into the question as well. So

569
00:30:22,375 --> 00:30:25,575
Speaker 3: you know, like, you have rights to your land right,

570
00:30:25,575 --> 00:30:28,775
Speaker 3: that's the whole point of being a homeowner. And so

571
00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:32,055
Speaker 3: the only way that someone gets to interfere with those

572
00:30:32,135 --> 00:30:34,495
Speaker 3: rights in terms of putting services in is if they

573
00:30:34,535 --> 00:30:37,295
Speaker 3: get an easement right and it's registered on the title,

574
00:30:37,615 --> 00:30:42,295
Speaker 3: to say, hey, look to get access to storm water, wastewater, electricity,

575
00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:45,095
Speaker 3: telecoms or something like that, I have to intersect or

576
00:30:45,095 --> 00:30:47,415
Speaker 3: I have to cross over your property, but it's registered

577
00:30:47,455 --> 00:30:52,135
Speaker 3: on the title. Typically, so I would think that a

578
00:30:52,255 --> 00:30:56,615
Speaker 3: letter informing them that in fact, the situation is no

579
00:30:56,735 --> 00:31:00,415
Speaker 3: longer acceptable, that they have to control their own storm water,

580
00:31:01,015 --> 00:31:04,415
Speaker 3: and then saying to them, you've got fourteen days to

581
00:31:04,455 --> 00:31:07,495
Speaker 3: comply with this, at which time I'm going to get

582
00:31:07,495 --> 00:31:10,215
Speaker 3: a drain layer to come or a plumber to come

583
00:31:10,295 --> 00:31:14,135
Speaker 3: and disconnect your stormwater, and that if you don't make

584
00:31:14,135 --> 00:31:18,215
Speaker 3: your own connection, it then becomes an issue for the

585
00:31:18,215 --> 00:31:21,615
Speaker 3: local council to deal with because there is a requirement

586
00:31:21,735 --> 00:31:25,455
Speaker 3: in urban settings right for every property to control their

587
00:31:25,455 --> 00:31:26,175
Speaker 3: own stormwater.

588
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've got it. They've got a concrete

589
00:31:29,815 --> 00:31:33,135
Speaker 12: path up the drive behind the fence. They've got a

590
00:31:33,175 --> 00:31:37,095
Speaker 12: concrete path, so they'd have to rub it under that

591
00:31:37,175 --> 00:31:41,415
Speaker 12: concrete path. They're having to be fair. On the other side,

592
00:31:41,455 --> 00:31:43,615
Speaker 12: he had a going the fact that.

593
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Speaker 3: It's going to be difficult for them is not actually

594
00:31:45,815 --> 00:31:46,375
Speaker 3: your problem.

595
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Speaker 10: So that's true, you know what I mean.

596
00:31:48,855 --> 00:31:50,055
Speaker 11: I know we all.

597
00:31:49,935 --> 00:31:52,415
Speaker 3: Tend to be we all tend to be considerate, and

598
00:31:52,455 --> 00:31:55,495
Speaker 3: we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. But in this

599
00:31:55,615 --> 00:31:58,975
Speaker 3: instance here, what they've done is incorrect, or whoever allowed

600
00:31:58,975 --> 00:32:01,735
Speaker 3: them to do it shouldn't have allowed them to do it.

601
00:32:01,735 --> 00:32:05,375
Speaker 3: It's their responsibility to control their own storm water. And

602
00:32:05,615 --> 00:32:08,735
Speaker 3: an instance is where people don't control storm water off

603
00:32:08,775 --> 00:32:11,295
Speaker 3: their own property. You can go to the council and

604
00:32:11,335 --> 00:32:13,295
Speaker 3: sort of go, hey, look this has become a nuisance.

605
00:32:13,375 --> 00:32:16,975
Speaker 3: I think there's something wrong with their stormwater system.

606
00:32:17,015 --> 00:32:18,535
Speaker 12: Thank you so much in you way.

607
00:32:18,455 --> 00:32:21,735
Speaker 3: But look, it's never easy confronting a neighbor and having

608
00:32:21,735 --> 00:32:25,415
Speaker 3: those conversations. But if it's causing disruption to you, then

609
00:32:25,655 --> 00:32:30,015
Speaker 3: I think you do need to say something. Yeah, I know,

610
00:32:30,295 --> 00:32:32,895
Speaker 3: I know, it's not an easy one. All the best

611
00:32:32,895 --> 00:32:36,735
Speaker 3: of you, do you take care? All right? Then? Now

612
00:32:36,775 --> 00:32:39,295
Speaker 3: on this can I seek your advice if you're a

613
00:32:40,295 --> 00:32:43,855
Speaker 3: particularly if you're involved in drain laying or plumbing. Very briefly,

614
00:32:43,975 --> 00:32:45,975
Speaker 3: it was a conversation I had while sitting at a

615
00:32:46,015 --> 00:32:48,895
Speaker 3: cafe yesterday with a mate who lives up the road.

616
00:32:49,855 --> 00:32:53,095
Speaker 3: They have a driveway that slopes down to the basement

617
00:32:53,175 --> 00:32:55,575
Speaker 3: garage right, So at the bottom of that they have

618
00:32:55,855 --> 00:32:58,535
Speaker 3: a catch pit with a pump in it. Because the

619
00:32:58,735 --> 00:33:03,255
Speaker 3: stormwater then is below the level of the council stormwater line,

620
00:33:03,495 --> 00:33:06,295
Speaker 3: so water that collects into that chamber has to be pumped,

621
00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:11,015
Speaker 3: doubt and that's regardless of the level of rainfall. No

622
00:33:11,175 --> 00:33:14,015
Speaker 3: water will escape from the pump from the chamber without

623
00:33:14,055 --> 00:33:17,295
Speaker 3: the pump, so the pump's pretty important. When the pump

624
00:33:17,375 --> 00:33:20,735
Speaker 3: failed during that heavy rain last year, they got the

625
00:33:20,735 --> 00:33:24,135
Speaker 3: basement flooded, right, So the pump is really important. The

626
00:33:24,255 --> 00:33:28,855
Speaker 3: question is is there like a ups an uninterrupted power

627
00:33:28,855 --> 00:33:31,855
Speaker 3: supply system that you can get as a backup, because

628
00:33:32,095 --> 00:33:34,735
Speaker 3: in the event that heavy rain occurs at the same

629
00:33:34,775 --> 00:33:37,615
Speaker 3: time as the power goes off, likely the flooding is

630
00:33:37,655 --> 00:33:40,055
Speaker 3: going to occur. So is there a setup where you

631
00:33:40,055 --> 00:33:44,855
Speaker 3: can add a generator or a battery supply that will

632
00:33:44,895 --> 00:33:47,695
Speaker 3: automatically turn on in the event of a power cut.

633
00:33:48,215 --> 00:33:49,935
Speaker 3: I'm going to investigate on and do a bit of

634
00:33:50,055 --> 00:33:54,735
Speaker 3: reading and research. But if someone's already thought about this

635
00:33:55,015 --> 00:33:57,015
Speaker 3: and got a solution, feel free to either give me

636
00:33:57,055 --> 00:33:59,135
Speaker 3: a call or a text. That'd be awesome. Eight hundred

637
00:33:59,135 --> 00:34:00,975
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call, get

638
00:34:00,975 --> 00:34:02,535
Speaker 3: a bigger pump and make them pay for it. I

639
00:34:02,535 --> 00:34:04,935
Speaker 3: don't know if that's a great solution. I appreciate the text,

640
00:34:05,215 --> 00:34:07,895
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure that's a in able solution. Eight

641
00:34:07,975 --> 00:34:10,175
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty ten away from seven oh and

642
00:34:10,295 --> 00:34:13,255
Speaker 3: good morning, Good morning, Good morning, sir.

643
00:34:13,415 --> 00:34:15,975
Speaker 13: I've got I've got a double being a question on

644
00:34:16,015 --> 00:34:19,775
Speaker 13: the same topic. One is if you've got home. At

645
00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:24,055
Speaker 13: one stage you talked about Taylor Facio, and there's another company.

646
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Speaker 3: Who does custom pasure as well.

647
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Speaker 13: Of concealed What was the other one?

648
00:34:28,255 --> 00:34:31,695
Speaker 3: Sorry, custom, so have a look for customer on you.

649
00:34:31,775 --> 00:34:31,975
Speaker 6: Yeah.

650
00:34:32,415 --> 00:34:37,415
Speaker 13: Yeah, they do a replacement system for concealed guttering. Yes,

651
00:34:37,535 --> 00:34:39,935
Speaker 13: and one of those seemed like a good idea at

652
00:34:39,935 --> 00:34:41,455
Speaker 13: the time. Things that can sell guttering.

653
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Speaker 3: To be fair, I've always been a bit skeptical about it,

654
00:34:47,215 --> 00:34:49,695
Speaker 3: even back in the day, when you know, it seemed

655
00:34:49,735 --> 00:34:52,255
Speaker 3: like every house in a new subdivision was getting them.

656
00:34:52,695 --> 00:34:54,655
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I don't know.

657
00:34:55,335 --> 00:35:03,655
Speaker 13: Yeah anyway, Yes, but with my place, I've made it

658
00:35:03,775 --> 00:35:05,455
Speaker 13: just the right words. So if you try and get

659
00:35:05,495 --> 00:35:07,655
Speaker 13: your hand in there to them and clear them in

660
00:35:07,695 --> 00:35:08,815
Speaker 13: the nice sharp.

661
00:35:08,735 --> 00:35:10,215
Speaker 3: Edge, yeah, it cuts you the shreds.

662
00:35:10,415 --> 00:35:10,615
Speaker 6: Yep.

663
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Speaker 13: Anyway, what I wondered is to do that kind of change,

664
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Speaker 13: do you need a permit? That's the first part of

665
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Speaker 13: the question. The other part of the question is, sorry,

666
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Speaker 13: I will let you answer that.

667
00:35:25,455 --> 00:35:27,455
Speaker 3: I think in a word, i'd say no, I don't.

668
00:35:27,495 --> 00:35:30,815
Speaker 3: I don't see why. I mean, typically things that impact

669
00:35:30,855 --> 00:35:34,655
Speaker 3: on weather tightness and that do require consent. But I

670
00:35:34,695 --> 00:35:37,495
Speaker 3: think that making a change from a concealed spouting to

671
00:35:37,535 --> 00:35:40,535
Speaker 3: an external one with a system, you know, like the

672
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Speaker 3: I know that the custom guys have have developed a

673
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Speaker 3: system that works. It has well. In fact, it's a

674
00:35:47,935 --> 00:35:50,015
Speaker 3: benefit in terms of weather tightness because we know that

675
00:35:50,055 --> 00:35:54,175
Speaker 3: those things leak and have caused moisture ingress. So no,

676
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Speaker 3: I don't think you need a building consent for that.

677
00:35:57,335 --> 00:36:02,455
Speaker 13: Oh got on. And the other thing is, well, I

678
00:36:02,735 --> 00:36:07,655
Speaker 13: the idea of prevention rather than cure. I wondered if

679
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Speaker 13: it was because we don't have a leg problem at

680
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Speaker 13: the moment. It seems in good neck virvis is sooner

681
00:36:11,895 --> 00:36:16,895
Speaker 13: or later everything suffed out. And well, I wondered if

682
00:36:17,455 --> 00:36:23,815
Speaker 13: it was possible to put in a Yeah, maybe not,

683
00:36:23,815 --> 00:36:25,215
Speaker 13: but no, but you know what I mean, put in

684
00:36:25,495 --> 00:36:30,695
Speaker 13: put in an improving because then it only has to

685
00:36:31,135 --> 00:36:34,175
Speaker 13: the existing guttering only has to act as a foundation

686
00:36:34,455 --> 00:36:37,535
Speaker 13: for it rather than a water trap.

687
00:36:39,335 --> 00:36:42,215
Speaker 3: Yeah. And look, I think the problem sometimes with some

688
00:36:42,255 --> 00:36:46,975
Speaker 3: of those ones that have caused issues has been that

689
00:36:47,575 --> 00:36:51,975
Speaker 3: often the interior gutter that was put in behind the

690
00:36:52,015 --> 00:36:58,095
Speaker 3: concealed facia or yeah, was often laid almost dead flat, right,

691
00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:01,935
Speaker 3: and you're always kind of asking for trouble, I think

692
00:37:01,975 --> 00:37:05,695
Speaker 3: if you do your spouting dead flat. So if and

693
00:37:05,815 --> 00:37:09,255
Speaker 3: also sometimes there were not that many outlets, so again,

694
00:37:09,455 --> 00:37:12,815
Speaker 3: in heavy rain, the volume of water that was getting

695
00:37:12,855 --> 00:37:16,095
Speaker 3: out through the downpipe was insufficient, and so they would

696
00:37:16,095 --> 00:37:19,655
Speaker 3: tend to overtop and then they would overflow, sometimes at

697
00:37:19,695 --> 00:37:21,695
Speaker 3: the back of the spouting rather than at the front

698
00:37:21,695 --> 00:37:24,975
Speaker 3: of the spouting and out onto the ground. Now, if

699
00:37:25,015 --> 00:37:28,015
Speaker 3: you don't have any of those problems, then yeah, I

700
00:37:28,415 --> 00:37:30,975
Speaker 3: can see the attraction of going Actually, what about if

701
00:37:30,975 --> 00:37:33,135
Speaker 3: I do some really good prep on the inside and

702
00:37:33,215 --> 00:37:36,055
Speaker 3: apply like a coating or a lining to it, that

703
00:37:36,135 --> 00:37:37,095
Speaker 3: will extend it out.

704
00:37:38,095 --> 00:37:41,735
Speaker 13: Many suggestions on the on the different approaches it could

705
00:37:41,735 --> 00:37:42,455
Speaker 13: be used there.

706
00:37:42,655 --> 00:37:45,495
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I've done some stuff with a

707
00:37:45,575 --> 00:37:49,175
Speaker 3: product called EPM sixty or during one nine to five.

708
00:37:49,895 --> 00:37:52,535
Speaker 3: And again I'm not I'm not suggesting either of those

709
00:37:52,575 --> 00:37:56,975
Speaker 3: two brush on applications will be a permanent solution, but

710
00:37:57,095 --> 00:38:00,255
Speaker 3: I have applied it to internal gutters where I've just

711
00:38:00,295 --> 00:38:02,175
Speaker 3: wanted to get an extra couple of years out of it,

712
00:38:02,335 --> 00:38:06,335
Speaker 3: you know, for example. And so in that sense, it

713
00:38:06,415 --> 00:38:08,855
Speaker 3: might be if you can get in there. Often with

714
00:38:08,935 --> 00:38:11,935
Speaker 3: these things, it's the difficulty of getting in, you know,

715
00:38:12,015 --> 00:38:14,095
Speaker 3: with a wire brush and then with a vacuum to

716
00:38:14,135 --> 00:38:17,455
Speaker 3: clean it out, and then applying the coating and so on.

717
00:38:18,535 --> 00:38:23,215
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of gap in there for maintenance, anything.

718
00:38:22,895 --> 00:38:26,735
Speaker 13: You could heat and torturing, or a molding that could play.

719
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Speaker 3: Some h not that I know. I mean, there are

720
00:38:30,335 --> 00:38:33,335
Speaker 3: obviously torch on membranes and TPOs and things like that,

721
00:38:33,415 --> 00:38:37,855
Speaker 3: but you know, applying them in a way that does

722
00:38:37,895 --> 00:38:40,775
Speaker 3: the job become that difficult that you're unlikely to get

723
00:38:40,775 --> 00:38:42,655
Speaker 3: a good seal on it, in which case it kind

724
00:38:42,655 --> 00:38:45,935
Speaker 3: of defeats the purpose. I think a brush on application,

725
00:38:46,135 --> 00:38:48,415
Speaker 3: just because of the complexity of getting in there, the

726
00:38:48,415 --> 00:38:52,095
Speaker 3: difficulty of access, is probably going to be the best solution.

727
00:38:52,535 --> 00:38:53,695
Speaker 9: But you know, there was.

728
00:38:53,975 --> 00:38:57,415
Speaker 3: Also to be fair to these sorts of systems. Sometimes

729
00:38:57,455 --> 00:39:00,415
Speaker 3: they fail because people don't maintain them, and arguably they're

730
00:39:00,415 --> 00:39:04,935
Speaker 3: difficult to maintain because they're difficult to access, and so

731
00:39:05,095 --> 00:39:07,375
Speaker 3: we tend to ignore them. But I think if you've

732
00:39:07,375 --> 00:39:10,935
Speaker 3: got a system that's still working and you continue to

733
00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:14,415
Speaker 3: maintain it, then partly leave well enough alone, because you

734
00:39:14,455 --> 00:39:17,295
Speaker 3: know it wouldn't be a cheap exercise to remove all

735
00:39:17,335 --> 00:39:21,215
Speaker 3: of that and replace it with an exterior spouting No, was.

736
00:39:21,135 --> 00:39:24,295
Speaker 13: That EPN like November or no?

737
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Speaker 3: EPM Mary, what's what's military for?

738
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Speaker 13: M Mike?

739
00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:35,815
Speaker 3: I think Mike, Okay, yeah, Echo Papa Mike sixty. There

740
00:39:35,855 --> 00:39:38,575
Speaker 3: you go. All right, mate, all the very best to you,

741
00:39:38,615 --> 00:39:42,095
Speaker 3: Take care, all the best, take care of your newsok CB.

742
00:39:42,215 --> 00:39:44,415
Speaker 3: We're coming up to news top of the r at

743
00:39:44,535 --> 00:39:46,695
Speaker 3: six o'clock. We'll talk to Mary straight after the news

744
00:39:46,735 --> 00:39:50,095
Speaker 3: at around seven thirty. We will have our razine painting

745
00:39:50,215 --> 00:39:53,855
Speaker 3: expert Brice McDermott joining us from seven thirty this morning.

746
00:39:54,215 --> 00:39:59,175
Speaker 3: After eight o'clock, our solar expert Marlon Johnson from Life

747
00:39:59,255 --> 00:40:01,615
Speaker 3: Force Sola will be joining me. So if you've got

748
00:40:01,615 --> 00:40:06,575
Speaker 3: any specific questions about solar, about maybe batteries, about generation,

749
00:40:06,775 --> 00:40:09,335
Speaker 3: about reply and the other thing we talked about is

750
00:40:09,375 --> 00:40:11,655
Speaker 3: some of these eco loans that are available. So we'll

751
00:40:11,655 --> 00:40:14,415
Speaker 3: talk all things Sola with Marlon from Life Force Sola

752
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:17,495
Speaker 3: after eight o'clock this morning, back after the news. Righty, oh,

753
00:40:17,495 --> 00:40:19,775
Speaker 3: good morning, Welcome back to the program. Pete wolf Camp,

754
00:40:19,815 --> 00:40:22,415
Speaker 3: the Resident Builder, with you here on the Resident Builder

755
00:40:22,455 --> 00:40:26,175
Speaker 3: on Sunday. If you've got a building question, a maintenance question,

756
00:40:26,255 --> 00:40:29,855
Speaker 3: a product question, a subcontract a question, maybe even a

757
00:40:29,935 --> 00:40:33,295
Speaker 3: nabally type question. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

758
00:40:33,455 --> 00:40:35,415
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Trust You've had a good week,

759
00:40:35,535 --> 00:40:38,375
Speaker 3: looking forward to your calls your conversation. Remember, at around

760
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Speaker 3: seven thirty this morning, we'll grab Bryce McDermott from Razine

761
00:40:41,895 --> 00:40:44,695
Speaker 3: Color Shops and here is our painting expert. If you've

762
00:40:44,695 --> 00:40:48,375
Speaker 3: got a specific painting question, then text it through right

763
00:40:48,415 --> 00:40:50,975
Speaker 3: now to nine to nine two and I can put

764
00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:53,815
Speaker 3: those to Bryce when he joins us at seven point

765
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Speaker 3: thirty in the next hour of the program. Marlon Johnson

766
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Speaker 3: from Life Force Solar, who are our sponsors, obviously he

767
00:41:00,895 --> 00:41:02,735
Speaker 3: will be joining us. We had Marlon on the show

768
00:41:02,735 --> 00:41:04,655
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago just to sort of do

769
00:41:04,735 --> 00:41:09,335
Speaker 3: a basic introduction into Solo, but it's surprisingly complex and

770
00:41:09,375 --> 00:41:11,215
Speaker 3: there's a lot more to it. So I thought, right,

771
00:41:11,255 --> 00:41:13,135
Speaker 3: we'll get them back on the show and if you've

772
00:41:13,135 --> 00:41:16,975
Speaker 3: got any specific questions about Solar, and to be fair,

773
00:41:17,015 --> 00:41:19,935
Speaker 3: I had some. I had a chat with them this

774
00:41:19,975 --> 00:41:21,495
Speaker 3: week and I found out that I had a whole

775
00:41:21,575 --> 00:41:25,135
Speaker 3: series of assumptions around Solar and around batteries that were

776
00:41:25,855 --> 00:41:28,895
Speaker 3: not quite fully formed. Let's say I'm being kind to myself,

777
00:41:29,415 --> 00:41:33,215
Speaker 3: so we're going to talk about batteries solar, the connection

778
00:41:33,335 --> 00:41:37,375
Speaker 3: between the two, how they link together. Are they are

779
00:41:37,415 --> 00:41:41,055
Speaker 3: so intertwined that you I had basically come up with

780
00:41:41,095 --> 00:41:43,215
Speaker 3: this idea that you to make use of it, you

781
00:41:43,255 --> 00:41:45,455
Speaker 3: really needed to have battery. Turns out that that's not

782
00:41:45,575 --> 00:41:48,815
Speaker 3: quite completely true, So we'll talk about that. But if

783
00:41:48,855 --> 00:41:55,815
Speaker 3: you've got any specific, any specific solar questions, feel free

784
00:41:55,815 --> 00:41:58,335
Speaker 3: to text those through now as well, because Marlon, our

785
00:41:58,375 --> 00:42:00,735
Speaker 3: expert on that, is going to join us after eight o'clock.

786
00:42:00,775 --> 00:42:03,615
Speaker 3: So it's a busy old morning. Take the opportunity to

787
00:42:03,695 --> 00:42:06,495
Speaker 3: jump in now, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty if

788
00:42:06,495 --> 00:42:09,135
Speaker 3: you've got any questions. I mentioned just before the news

789
00:42:09,175 --> 00:42:12,055
Speaker 3: about this particular dilemma that I happen to be chatting

790
00:42:12,055 --> 00:42:15,055
Speaker 3: with a mate who lives up the road about yesterday.

791
00:42:15,095 --> 00:42:17,415
Speaker 3: We're sitting at the cafe and coffee wanders over and

792
00:42:17,455 --> 00:42:20,135
Speaker 3: he goes, oh, can I talk to you about this? Yeah,

793
00:42:20,135 --> 00:42:22,495
Speaker 3: of course, no problem at all. So an issue with

794
00:42:22,895 --> 00:42:26,495
Speaker 3: a pump or no, no problem with the pump. Pump

795
00:42:26,535 --> 00:42:29,455
Speaker 3: works fine. It's in a chamber. It catches the water

796
00:42:29,495 --> 00:42:33,295
Speaker 3: that comes down from the driveway, but that is below

797
00:42:33,375 --> 00:42:35,935
Speaker 3: the level of the invert for the stormwater mainz right,

798
00:42:35,975 --> 00:42:38,175
Speaker 3: So it has to be pumped from the chamber to

799
00:42:38,215 --> 00:42:41,095
Speaker 3: get into the council stormwater line. So someone said, what

800
00:42:41,135 --> 00:42:43,255
Speaker 3: about a bubble up sump, and I had a quick

801
00:42:43,295 --> 00:42:45,775
Speaker 3: look just to refresh myself as to what they are. Well,

802
00:42:45,775 --> 00:42:47,975
Speaker 3: that wouldn't work because when it bubbles over, it's going

803
00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:49,935
Speaker 3: to bubble over and go straight in the garret. So

804
00:42:50,055 --> 00:42:53,375
Speaker 3: that's not an option. It's got to be a solution

805
00:42:53,575 --> 00:42:56,735
Speaker 3: for when the pump if there's a power cut, how

806
00:42:56,775 --> 00:42:59,135
Speaker 3: do you keep the pump running? Is are there batteries

807
00:42:59,335 --> 00:43:03,775
Speaker 3: or generators that you can hook up specifically to the pump.

808
00:43:05,335 --> 00:43:07,415
Speaker 3: If you've got a solution, feel free to text it through.

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00:43:07,615 --> 00:43:10,575
Speaker 3: I w eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Otherwise I'll continue

810
00:43:10,575 --> 00:43:12,775
Speaker 3: to answer your questions rather than ask them. I wait

811
00:43:12,895 --> 00:43:15,095
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighties the number to call Mary A

812
00:43:15,255 --> 00:43:16,135
Speaker 3: very good morning.

813
00:43:16,615 --> 00:43:20,535
Speaker 14: Oh, good morning, Pete, Hey Mary Scott query. I was

814
00:43:20,535 --> 00:43:24,575
Speaker 14: looking into the shower dough yes to put in the

815
00:43:24,615 --> 00:43:29,175
Speaker 14: bathroom to help keep keep steam down. But I wonder

816
00:43:29,455 --> 00:43:33,255
Speaker 14: if the regulations have changed a tool on extractor fans

817
00:43:33,295 --> 00:43:38,015
Speaker 14: for bathrooms, because in their advertising it says there's no

818
00:43:38,095 --> 00:43:42,135
Speaker 14: need for an extractor fan, and I thought you had

819
00:43:42,175 --> 00:43:44,455
Speaker 14: to have one in your bathrooms.

820
00:43:45,415 --> 00:43:49,815
Speaker 3: To the best of my knowledge, certainly the building code

821
00:43:51,335 --> 00:43:57,655
Speaker 3: requires extraction from bathrooms and from wet areas increasingly, right, So,

822
00:43:58,015 --> 00:44:01,615
Speaker 3: and I I'm not sure if you submitted a building

823
00:44:01,655 --> 00:44:03,895
Speaker 3: consent and said this is going to be my solution,

824
00:44:04,615 --> 00:44:07,695
Speaker 3: whether it would be accept to counsel or to a

825
00:44:07,815 --> 00:44:11,695
Speaker 3: territorial authority as part of a building consent application. So

826
00:44:12,175 --> 00:44:16,975
Speaker 3: typically we install extraction in bathrooms to deal with moisture.

827
00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:21,815
Speaker 3: That's the common way, and that is approved by counsel.

828
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Speaker 14: So I can see how it would suppress it. But

829
00:44:24,815 --> 00:44:26,575
Speaker 14: the steam's still got to go somewhere.

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00:44:27,375 --> 00:44:29,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the theory behind them is

831
00:44:29,455 --> 00:44:33,095
Speaker 3: that essentially it becomes condensation and drains down the inside

832
00:44:33,095 --> 00:44:35,135
Speaker 3: of the shower and into the waste, and in that

833
00:44:35,215 --> 00:44:39,935
Speaker 3: sense it's a neat solution. I would have to do

834
00:44:39,975 --> 00:44:42,415
Speaker 3: some more research to see whether or not that would

835
00:44:42,415 --> 00:44:48,495
Speaker 3: suffice for building consent, But I think in all the

836
00:44:48,535 --> 00:44:52,855
Speaker 3: bathrooms I've done, we've installed extraction. We had Storm Harpen,

837
00:44:53,895 --> 00:44:56,215
Speaker 3: a ventilation expert, on the show a couple of weeks ago,

838
00:44:56,215 --> 00:44:57,975
Speaker 3: and I intend to get her back as well. She

839
00:44:58,015 --> 00:45:01,895
Speaker 3: had some great advice on ventilation and extraction and so on.

840
00:45:03,095 --> 00:45:05,455
Speaker 3: I think a good solution is getting it out. So

841
00:45:05,495 --> 00:45:10,615
Speaker 3: if you've got bathroom, I would always go for extraction. Yeah, okay,

842
00:45:10,695 --> 00:45:12,335
Speaker 3: then you know, and maybe do both of them.

843
00:45:12,375 --> 00:45:17,535
Speaker 14: But yeah, extraction to me, it just doesn't seem totally right.

844
00:45:17,895 --> 00:45:18,055
Speaker 11: Hey.

845
00:45:18,055 --> 00:45:21,095
Speaker 3: Look, the people that I know who have that I've

846
00:45:21,135 --> 00:45:24,615
Speaker 3: spoken with have got them swear by them, right. Yeah,

847
00:45:24,855 --> 00:45:28,975
Speaker 3: So in that sense there's there's a real efficacy about them.

848
00:45:29,455 --> 00:45:32,855
Speaker 3: But in terms of compliance, I'm not sure. Okay, I

849
00:45:32,895 --> 00:45:34,775
Speaker 3: can find it. I will find out. There we go.

850
00:45:34,855 --> 00:45:37,615
Speaker 3: I'll add that to another nice of you to take

851
00:45:37,655 --> 00:45:40,015
Speaker 3: care of. Bye by then, Oh eight hundred and eighty

852
00:45:40,055 --> 00:45:43,975
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call Tanya A very

853
00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:44,815
Speaker 3: good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Oh, good morning. Deep.

855
00:45:48,175 --> 00:45:51,095
Speaker 6: I've got mold on my Queen led.

856
00:45:51,015 --> 00:45:55,815
Speaker 7: Dick and I've used lissons to get and hit the deck,

857
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Speaker 7: which hasn't worked in removing them mold. Could I use

858
00:46:00,375 --> 00:46:01,815
Speaker 7: a light water blood?

859
00:46:03,335 --> 00:46:07,575
Speaker 3: Be very careful, I know, seriously, And to be fair,

860
00:46:07,695 --> 00:46:09,615
Speaker 3: it was on my list to do some water blasting

861
00:46:09,655 --> 00:46:11,935
Speaker 3: yesterday of concrete paths. I wasn't going to water blast

862
00:46:11,975 --> 00:46:14,335
Speaker 3: any timber yesterday. I just didn't get round to it.

863
00:46:15,015 --> 00:46:17,655
Speaker 3: I big fan of water blasting, but I prefer to

864
00:46:17,695 --> 00:46:20,415
Speaker 3: call it pressure washing, right, So there's a role for

865
00:46:20,455 --> 00:46:24,375
Speaker 3: the water blasting it is not going two thousand psi

866
00:46:24,535 --> 00:46:27,335
Speaker 3: at two and a half inches above the timber, ripping

867
00:46:27,575 --> 00:46:30,095
Speaker 3: through all of the fibers, right, which is what I

868
00:46:30,135 --> 00:46:32,735
Speaker 3: saw someone do the other day. And it looks great today,

869
00:46:33,055 --> 00:46:35,575
Speaker 3: you know, it looks bright and all the rest of it.

870
00:46:35,615 --> 00:46:38,655
Speaker 3: But the damage to the fiber is now permanent. Right,

871
00:46:39,855 --> 00:46:46,975
Speaker 3: So look, I think, yeah, I've used the wit and

872
00:46:47,055 --> 00:46:52,175
Speaker 3: forget the had the deck right, and had quite good

873
00:46:52,215 --> 00:46:57,815
Speaker 3: of results from it. Right, So I wonder whether another

874
00:46:57,895 --> 00:47:03,935
Speaker 3: application of that might help. And certainly applying like applying

875
00:47:04,055 --> 00:47:08,775
Speaker 3: a proprietary deck wash solution is far more effective than

876
00:47:08,855 --> 00:47:12,255
Speaker 3: not applying a solution. So just hitting it with water

877
00:47:12,295 --> 00:47:14,975
Speaker 3: blast or hitting it with a scrubbing brush is not

878
00:47:15,055 --> 00:47:18,855
Speaker 3: as effective as treating it. So that's definitely the way

879
00:47:18,855 --> 00:47:21,575
Speaker 3: to go, whether or not you might have to do too.

880
00:47:21,655 --> 00:47:25,055
Speaker 3: And then the other question is if what you're going

881
00:47:25,095 --> 00:47:28,815
Speaker 3: to do is just clean the deck and then wait

882
00:47:28,855 --> 00:47:31,255
Speaker 3: for the mold to reappear, you might want to start

883
00:47:31,295 --> 00:47:33,015
Speaker 3: looking at well, if I clean the deck, let it

884
00:47:33,095 --> 00:47:36,455
Speaker 3: dry thoroughly, do I apply a coating to it, maybe

885
00:47:36,495 --> 00:47:39,775
Speaker 3: like a penetrating oil stain that will help resist some

886
00:47:39,895 --> 00:47:40,855
Speaker 3: of that mold growth.

887
00:47:41,815 --> 00:47:43,135
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do want to stain it.

888
00:47:43,175 --> 00:47:44,935
Speaker 7: There's a stain on there at the moment, but just

889
00:47:45,055 --> 00:47:46,895
Speaker 7: needs restain there.

890
00:47:47,015 --> 00:47:47,255
Speaker 6: Yeah.

891
00:47:47,335 --> 00:47:49,615
Speaker 3: Now it's the other thing, and I'm sort of straying

892
00:47:49,615 --> 00:47:51,655
Speaker 3: into Bryce's territory here, but one of the things that

893
00:47:51,695 --> 00:47:54,295
Speaker 3: I have learned from both Bryce and Jay our razine

894
00:47:54,335 --> 00:47:57,575
Speaker 3: experts is whatever system you've got, you kind of have

895
00:47:57,695 --> 00:48:01,655
Speaker 3: to stick with it. So, you know, if it's a

896
00:48:02,095 --> 00:48:04,895
Speaker 3: waterborne stain, then stick with water born. If it's an

897
00:48:04,895 --> 00:48:07,655
Speaker 3: oil based stain, stick with oil base. And if you

898
00:48:08,095 --> 00:48:11,215
Speaker 3: if you're unsure about what system was already there, do

899
00:48:11,295 --> 00:48:13,055
Speaker 3: a little bit of testing to make sure that you

900
00:48:13,055 --> 00:48:15,095
Speaker 3: don't run into incompatibility issues.

901
00:48:16,135 --> 00:48:18,335
Speaker 4: Yep, understand what you're saying. Yep, I've got that.

902
00:48:18,815 --> 00:48:21,775
Speaker 3: Oh you know what it is. Okay, then it's fine. Yeah,

903
00:48:21,775 --> 00:48:24,975
Speaker 3: maybe just another application of the cleaner and certainly rinse

904
00:48:25,135 --> 00:48:28,415
Speaker 3: off with a water blaster. But either if you've got

905
00:48:28,415 --> 00:48:31,535
Speaker 3: the function to dial down the temp the pressure of them,

906
00:48:32,055 --> 00:48:34,495
Speaker 3: or just you know, come back a little bit further

907
00:48:35,855 --> 00:48:41,455
Speaker 3: understand Yeah, little alrighty all the best take care. By then,

908
00:48:41,695 --> 00:48:43,255
Speaker 3: oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eight, you've got

909
00:48:43,255 --> 00:48:45,335
Speaker 3: time for a couple of calls before we talk to Bryce,

910
00:48:45,415 --> 00:48:49,335
Speaker 3: our painting expert, at six seven thirty this morning. It

911
00:48:49,415 --> 00:48:52,255
Speaker 3: is currently just after seven point fifteen here in New Storks.

912
00:48:52,255 --> 00:48:56,375
Speaker 3: The b a couple of texts through. I'll give them

913
00:48:56,455 --> 00:48:58,935
Speaker 3: some good painting questions, which is awesome, so send those

914
00:48:58,975 --> 00:49:02,295
Speaker 3: through for Bryce. Someone has steps through to say shower

915
00:49:02,335 --> 00:49:05,015
Speaker 3: domes do not meet the Healthy Home standards and you

916
00:49:05,095 --> 00:49:08,855
Speaker 3: still require extra when renting. I thought that would have

917
00:49:08,895 --> 00:49:11,055
Speaker 3: been the case because it's quite clear in the Healthy

918
00:49:11,095 --> 00:49:14,655
Speaker 3: Home Standards this is for residential tendencies that you now

919
00:49:14,775 --> 00:49:18,015
Speaker 3: must have extraction from bathrooms and of course you have

920
00:49:18,095 --> 00:49:22,575
Speaker 3: to have extraction from ventilation into kitchens as well. So

921
00:49:22,615 --> 00:49:25,655
Speaker 3: thanks very much for that. And with regard to my question,

922
00:49:25,695 --> 00:49:28,735
Speaker 3: I was looking for an uninterrupted power supplier a UPS,

923
00:49:29,135 --> 00:49:31,855
Speaker 3: so you get a battery bank that will automatically change

924
00:49:31,895 --> 00:49:34,295
Speaker 3: over when the powers interrupted. This is if you've got

925
00:49:34,295 --> 00:49:38,015
Speaker 3: a in this instance a chamber that collects a bit

926
00:49:38,095 --> 00:49:41,655
Speaker 3: of storm water but also groundwater. Will surface water drops

927
00:49:41,695 --> 00:49:45,495
Speaker 3: into a chamber in front of a basement area. The

928
00:49:45,535 --> 00:49:47,895
Speaker 3: only way to get rid of the water from there

929
00:49:47,975 --> 00:49:50,055
Speaker 3: is via the pump. So even if it was a

930
00:49:50,055 --> 00:49:53,095
Speaker 3: bubble up one, that's not useful. So can you get

931
00:49:53,135 --> 00:49:56,175
Speaker 3: a system whereby if you get heavy rain and a

932
00:49:56,215 --> 00:49:58,655
Speaker 3: power cut, which, to be fair, is not unlikely that

933
00:49:58,775 --> 00:50:02,535
Speaker 3: you've got a dedicated power source for that, that will

934
00:50:02,575 --> 00:50:06,535
Speaker 3: change over automatically. And I mean automatically too. If you

935
00:50:06,575 --> 00:50:09,735
Speaker 3: weren't home, would it change over? And apparently they're out there.

936
00:50:10,535 --> 00:50:12,335
Speaker 3: If anyone happens to have an name, that would be

937
00:50:12,335 --> 00:50:14,975
Speaker 3: even more helpful. Oh, eight hundred eighty eighty is the

938
00:50:15,055 --> 00:50:17,175
Speaker 3: number to call Fred A very good morning to you.

939
00:50:17,935 --> 00:50:21,375
Speaker 11: Oh, good morning, So Fred might be a a week question.

940
00:50:23,775 --> 00:50:26,455
Speaker 3: Well, okay, ask it first.

941
00:50:27,695 --> 00:50:30,855
Speaker 11: We've got a shower which backs onto the hall, and

942
00:50:30,935 --> 00:50:33,135
Speaker 11: I'm getting a little bit of water back into the

943
00:50:33,255 --> 00:50:34,135
Speaker 11: carpet in the hall.

944
00:50:34,255 --> 00:50:34,615
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

945
00:50:35,735 --> 00:50:37,495
Speaker 11: The house is about twenty five years old, so I

946
00:50:37,535 --> 00:50:42,255
Speaker 11: don't know where they where. Your ceilings for showers was

947
00:50:42,415 --> 00:50:44,055
Speaker 11: strong in those days. That is what it does now.

948
00:50:46,575 --> 00:50:51,415
Speaker 11: It doesn't appear to be any obvious from the grouting

949
00:50:51,695 --> 00:50:53,655
Speaker 11: from the inside. The shower looks.

950
00:50:53,375 --> 00:50:59,095
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, twenty five years ago. Is it a fully

951
00:50:59,215 --> 00:51:02,255
Speaker 3: tiled shower, so the floor and the walls are all tiled.

952
00:51:03,655 --> 00:51:06,935
Speaker 3: Do the tiles extend outside of the shower and onto

953
00:51:06,975 --> 00:51:07,455
Speaker 3: the walls?

954
00:51:08,135 --> 00:51:08,215
Speaker 15: No?

955
00:51:10,695 --> 00:51:13,855
Speaker 3: Okay? And is there a. Is it level entry or

956
00:51:13,895 --> 00:51:15,855
Speaker 3: is there a hob like a little upstand that you

957
00:51:15,895 --> 00:51:16,415
Speaker 3: step over?

958
00:51:17,855 --> 00:51:18,615
Speaker 11: There's an upstand.

959
00:51:18,695 --> 00:51:25,455
Speaker 3: There is an upstand. Okay. Is the mixer or the

960
00:51:25,495 --> 00:51:30,015
Speaker 3: shower rose itself on the wall where you're seeing the leak.

961
00:51:30,695 --> 00:51:32,015
Speaker 11: No, it's on the opposite wall.

962
00:51:32,135 --> 00:51:35,255
Speaker 3: Okay, all right. The reason I asked that is sometimes

963
00:51:35,375 --> 00:51:38,015
Speaker 3: you know, the leak can actually come from the fittings,

964
00:51:38,775 --> 00:51:40,935
Speaker 3: in which case it'll be draining down through the wall

965
00:51:40,975 --> 00:51:43,575
Speaker 3: cavity and you'll see it on that side because the

966
00:51:43,615 --> 00:51:46,135
Speaker 3: waterproofing is stopping it going into the shower in this case,

967
00:51:46,135 --> 00:51:49,175
Speaker 3: and it's pointing it the other way. And I presume

968
00:51:49,215 --> 00:51:52,735
Speaker 3: that the leaking or the moisture that you're seeing is

969
00:51:53,055 --> 00:51:56,575
Speaker 3: around the skirting line. So it's at the bottom, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

970
00:51:56,975 --> 00:52:00,775
Speaker 3: Concrete floor, timber floor, concrete floor. Right, So it's not

971
00:52:00,815 --> 00:52:02,215
Speaker 3: like you can get under and have a look.

972
00:52:02,655 --> 00:52:06,015
Speaker 11: No difficult.

973
00:52:07,695 --> 00:52:11,575
Speaker 3: I think if it's obvious, and given that you've seen it,

974
00:52:11,655 --> 00:52:15,295
Speaker 3: let's assume that it is. I wonder whether the first

975
00:52:15,295 --> 00:52:17,375
Speaker 3: thing you're probably going to have to do is cut

976
00:52:17,375 --> 00:52:20,255
Speaker 3: a section out of the plaster board on the hallway

977
00:52:20,335 --> 00:52:26,215
Speaker 3: side and have a look inside, and that'll because in

978
00:52:26,255 --> 00:52:27,535
Speaker 3: the end, you know, if you have to do a

979
00:52:27,575 --> 00:52:31,575
Speaker 3: repair there, it's not actually that hard to repair plaster board,

980
00:52:31,575 --> 00:52:35,175
Speaker 3: but it'll give you an idea of what's happening. I suspect,

981
00:52:35,415 --> 00:52:38,535
Speaker 3: knowing what I know and having done waterproofing twenty five

982
00:52:38,615 --> 00:52:44,615
Speaker 3: years ago, it's some systems were good. Many systems were

983
00:52:44,655 --> 00:52:47,335
Speaker 3: not as good as what we've got today. And so

984
00:52:47,455 --> 00:52:52,255
Speaker 3: I do wonder whether there's been either some movement and

985
00:52:52,415 --> 00:52:57,135
Speaker 3: some tearing in the junctions, particularly often ninety degree corners,

986
00:52:57,575 --> 00:53:00,455
Speaker 3: or around the shower waste itself, if that's not particularly

987
00:53:00,535 --> 00:53:05,055
Speaker 3: well sealed. When you have a shower, does the water

988
00:53:05,095 --> 00:53:06,895
Speaker 3: go out through the waste quickly?

989
00:53:08,535 --> 00:53:11,615
Speaker 11: Well, it's not not a shower I personally use very much.

990
00:53:11,455 --> 00:53:12,855
Speaker 3: But right, okay, from.

991
00:53:12,735 --> 00:53:16,495
Speaker 11: What I remember when I did use it, it was okay.

992
00:53:16,215 --> 00:53:20,415
Speaker 3: Yeah, went away quickly. Okay, Look, I think Fred unfortunately,

993
00:53:20,615 --> 00:53:23,535
Speaker 3: I would probably cut a hole in the plaster board

994
00:53:23,775 --> 00:53:27,335
Speaker 3: so that I can see what's happening there and then

995
00:53:27,415 --> 00:53:29,935
Speaker 3: go from there. And you know, if it is a

996
00:53:29,935 --> 00:53:33,735
Speaker 3: case that yes, it's obviously leaking through. You know, when

997
00:53:33,775 --> 00:53:35,735
Speaker 3: you have a shower, the water is going through the tiles,

998
00:53:35,735 --> 00:53:38,935
Speaker 3: through the groud, through the waterproofing and coming out underneath

999
00:53:38,935 --> 00:53:42,375
Speaker 3: the bottom plate and into the hallway. Then it's going

1000
00:53:42,415 --> 00:53:44,735
Speaker 3: to be a strip out of the shower and a

1001
00:53:44,775 --> 00:53:48,455
Speaker 3: complete replacement. There's there's no easy repair to that.

1002
00:53:50,055 --> 00:53:54,975
Speaker 11: Yeah, So so if you went the whole hog replacement,

1003
00:53:55,655 --> 00:53:59,615
Speaker 11: would would you retile and that sort of thing or

1004
00:53:59,655 --> 00:54:02,175
Speaker 11: would you go for the cubicle showers.

1005
00:54:03,015 --> 00:54:05,735
Speaker 3: Look, there's no reason that you shouldn't retile it, like,

1006
00:54:05,775 --> 00:54:08,895
Speaker 3: if that's your preference, then, but you'd have to do

1007
00:54:08,935 --> 00:54:13,655
Speaker 3: it to today's building coat, so the substrate might be

1008
00:54:13,695 --> 00:54:19,535
Speaker 3: slightly different. Certainly, the waterproofing systems have improved dramatically, whether

1009
00:54:19,575 --> 00:54:23,415
Speaker 3: that's a peel and stick type system, so a membrane

1010
00:54:23,415 --> 00:54:27,655
Speaker 3: type system or a brush on waterproofing system. But today,

1011
00:54:27,735 --> 00:54:30,495
Speaker 3: you know, we often put bond breakers in and tapes

1012
00:54:30,575 --> 00:54:32,495
Speaker 3: and those sorts of things that we might not have

1013
00:54:32,535 --> 00:54:37,375
Speaker 3: done twenty five years ago. And then but chances are

1014
00:54:37,415 --> 00:54:39,895
Speaker 3: when you take the tiles off, it'll damage the waterproofing.

1015
00:54:40,095 --> 00:54:42,775
Speaker 3: Waterproofing's already failed, so you got to take the waterproofing off.

1016
00:54:43,015 --> 00:54:46,255
Speaker 3: You won't get the waterproofing off without replacing the substrate.

1017
00:54:46,695 --> 00:54:50,255
Speaker 3: So in that shower area and probably for quite a

1018
00:54:50,295 --> 00:54:53,095
Speaker 3: distance beyond you'll be pulling it right off back to

1019
00:54:53,135 --> 00:54:56,375
Speaker 3: the beer framing and starting again and building up from there.

1020
00:54:57,655 --> 00:55:00,815
Speaker 11: So yes, stupid question. On a substraate, Oh.

1021
00:55:00,695 --> 00:55:03,135
Speaker 3: Substrate is just a term that we have for the

1022
00:55:03,255 --> 00:55:07,295
Speaker 3: layer underneath the waterproofing. So in some cases it might

1023
00:55:07,335 --> 00:55:10,015
Speaker 3: be a fiber cement sheet is an option, and other

1024
00:55:10,095 --> 00:55:13,775
Speaker 3: cases you can use specific types of plaster board are

1025
00:55:13,815 --> 00:55:18,375
Speaker 3: options and they are the substrate for the waterproofing. So

1026
00:55:18,975 --> 00:55:21,735
Speaker 3: again it depends a little bit. Today there are other

1027
00:55:21,775 --> 00:55:24,615
Speaker 3: options as well where you've actually got wall linings that

1028
00:55:24,735 --> 00:55:29,695
Speaker 3: are the waterproofing system. Now that might that might actually

1029
00:55:29,695 --> 00:55:33,015
Speaker 3: work as a substitution. So there's there's specific boards that

1030
00:55:33,055 --> 00:55:38,655
Speaker 3: are available. I think probably your next step after investigating,

1031
00:55:38,695 --> 00:55:40,735
Speaker 3: and that might be a job for a plumber or

1032
00:55:40,935 --> 00:55:43,255
Speaker 3: possibly a tiler would come and have a look, or

1033
00:55:43,615 --> 00:55:48,935
Speaker 3: an experienced LBP would be to then you know, talk

1034
00:55:48,975 --> 00:55:52,135
Speaker 3: to someone and get them to facilitate the coordination of

1035
00:55:52,175 --> 00:56:01,255
Speaker 3: all of those trades. Yeah, and bathrooms are complicated because

1036
00:56:01,255 --> 00:56:03,775
Speaker 3: there's so much happening in a small area. You know,

1037
00:56:03,975 --> 00:56:06,775
Speaker 3: typically if you think about doing some work on a bedroom,

1038
00:56:06,815 --> 00:56:08,215
Speaker 3: you know, if you strip it out, you've got a

1039
00:56:08,215 --> 00:56:11,175
Speaker 3: carpenter comes in strips, the wall lining out, replaces the

1040
00:56:11,175 --> 00:56:14,415
Speaker 3: wall lining, does the trims, stopping and painting. Right. But

1041
00:56:14,535 --> 00:56:19,935
Speaker 3: in a bathroom, suddenly you've got you know, tyler, waterproofer, carpenter, plumber,

1042
00:56:21,335 --> 00:56:25,215
Speaker 3: glass installer. That's why bathrooms are expensive because there's so

1043
00:56:25,295 --> 00:56:26,495
Speaker 3: many subtraits involved.

1044
00:56:27,455 --> 00:56:33,615
Speaker 11: M well, sorry, it's well.

1045
00:56:33,655 --> 00:56:35,655
Speaker 3: I can tell you one thing with les, they never

1046
00:56:35,695 --> 00:56:40,695
Speaker 3: get better on their own. Yeah, very good, all right,

1047
00:56:41,015 --> 00:56:43,255
Speaker 3: good luck with that. But a bit of investigation is

1048
00:56:43,295 --> 00:56:46,575
Speaker 3: the first step. Yeah, all the very best. You take

1049
00:56:46,615 --> 00:56:50,095
Speaker 3: care for them. Let me see I need, I need

1050
00:56:50,095 --> 00:56:51,495
Speaker 3: to take a break. Let's do that, and then we'll

1051
00:56:51,495 --> 00:56:53,135
Speaker 3: have a chat with Daniel back in a moment a

1052
00:56:53,215 --> 00:56:55,815
Speaker 3: year with news talks there we're talking all things building. Daniel,

1053
00:56:55,855 --> 00:56:58,775
Speaker 3: Good morning to you. I have a game mate, not

1054
00:56:58,895 --> 00:57:00,335
Speaker 3: too bad in yourself.

1055
00:57:01,015 --> 00:57:04,495
Speaker 15: No, good, good. I just had a quick question. Sure

1056
00:57:05,815 --> 00:57:11,055
Speaker 15: the council like they they wrung me up and the

1057
00:57:11,495 --> 00:57:16,375
Speaker 15: next door neighbor had been flooding, and they were like, oh,

1058
00:57:16,415 --> 00:57:19,935
Speaker 15: can we put a pipe running straight through the back

1059
00:57:19,975 --> 00:57:24,735
Speaker 15: of your section and you know, to get rid of

1060
00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:27,095
Speaker 15: their water. And I said, oh, you know, that's fine.

1061
00:57:27,135 --> 00:57:29,975
Speaker 15: That was just on a phone call. And then and

1062
00:57:30,055 --> 00:57:34,735
Speaker 15: now they've just I've just noticed that there's there's a

1063
00:57:34,775 --> 00:57:37,775
Speaker 15: manhole in the back of the section, you know, right, yeah,

1064
00:57:38,095 --> 00:57:39,975
Speaker 15: And I don't know what to do about because I

1065
00:57:40,055 --> 00:57:43,135
Speaker 15: never signed anything, or I was just wondering sort of

1066
00:57:43,135 --> 00:57:44,175
Speaker 15: how will you go about that?

1067
00:57:45,415 --> 00:57:48,255
Speaker 3: I have to say it sounds a little bit unusual

1068
00:57:48,335 --> 00:57:52,815
Speaker 3: that just verbally, like on a phone call, council would say, hey, look,

1069
00:57:52,855 --> 00:57:56,735
Speaker 3: can we come and extend the public storm water through

1070
00:57:56,815 --> 00:58:02,255
Speaker 3: your property and to your neighbor because obviously did they

1071
00:58:02,335 --> 00:58:04,775
Speaker 3: rock up there with diggers and rip open a trench

1072
00:58:04,935 --> 00:58:07,015
Speaker 3: lay and pipe and all that sort of thing, or

1073
00:58:07,015 --> 00:58:08,215
Speaker 3: did they thrust it through.

1074
00:58:09,095 --> 00:58:11,415
Speaker 15: Most of I was never there because it was a

1075
00:58:11,455 --> 00:58:15,255
Speaker 15: rental property, right okay, And the people have moved out,

1076
00:58:15,295 --> 00:58:18,175
Speaker 15: And now I've just noticed that there's a dirty, great

1077
00:58:18,255 --> 00:58:19,495
Speaker 15: big manhole there, you know.

1078
00:58:19,775 --> 00:58:24,775
Speaker 3: And that manhole is that there to allow your stormwater

1079
00:58:24,935 --> 00:58:27,295
Speaker 3: to connect to the new Like where was your storm

1080
00:58:27,335 --> 00:58:27,855
Speaker 3: water going?

1081
00:58:29,175 --> 00:58:32,615
Speaker 15: Well, my stormwater was already there was already one going

1082
00:58:32,655 --> 00:58:37,495
Speaker 15: straight through my property from the man hole above their property,

1083
00:58:39,295 --> 00:58:44,175
Speaker 15: right okay, So since they like their man hole was

1084
00:58:44,215 --> 00:58:48,495
Speaker 15: always like blowing out and all the water was rushing

1085
00:58:48,495 --> 00:58:52,695
Speaker 15: down and flooding this other place. And then so they

1086
00:58:52,815 --> 00:58:56,655
Speaker 15: must have put a pipe from down there somewhere and

1087
00:58:57,095 --> 00:59:01,055
Speaker 15: right and shot it across. But now there's a manhole

1088
00:59:01,375 --> 00:59:02,735
Speaker 15: right in the back of my.

1089
00:59:02,695 --> 00:59:06,175
Speaker 3: Section, which I mean.

1090
00:59:07,975 --> 00:59:10,015
Speaker 15: We would I would have thought there there would have been,

1091
00:59:10,975 --> 00:59:13,175
Speaker 15: you know, something there. We would have awad to sign

1092
00:59:13,215 --> 00:59:16,815
Speaker 15: and plans. I would have seen them to be fair.

1093
00:59:16,815 --> 00:59:19,495
Speaker 3: That's the bit that I'm a little bit perplexed by,

1094
00:59:19,655 --> 00:59:23,255
Speaker 3: right that, like, there must have been even even for

1095
00:59:23,295 --> 00:59:24,935
Speaker 3: them to go and get the work done, they would

1096
00:59:24,935 --> 00:59:26,935
Speaker 3: have had to have drawn a plan, submit it and

1097
00:59:26,975 --> 00:59:29,935
Speaker 3: given it to their contractors in order to follow. You

1098
00:59:29,935 --> 00:59:32,055
Speaker 3: don't just ring the contractor and say, hey, look, just

1099
00:59:32,055 --> 00:59:35,135
Speaker 3: pop round to Daniel's place there, rip up the back

1100
00:59:35,215 --> 00:59:37,895
Speaker 3: law and throw in some pipe, whacking a manhole while

1101
00:59:37,895 --> 00:59:40,615
Speaker 3: you're there, and you guys just do what you feel

1102
00:59:40,655 --> 00:59:42,695
Speaker 3: like doing. So there's got to be a bit of

1103
00:59:42,735 --> 00:59:45,695
Speaker 3: a paper trail. I think in the first instance, I

1104
00:59:45,735 --> 00:59:48,975
Speaker 3: would probably go back to counsel and go, look, I'm

1105
00:59:49,015 --> 00:59:51,335
Speaker 3: the property owner of such and such a property DP

1106
00:59:51,535 --> 00:59:53,735
Speaker 3: number Da Da da da da. Can you please send

1107
00:59:53,815 --> 00:59:58,135
Speaker 3: me a copy of the plans that consent or the

1108
00:59:58,215 --> 01:00:01,695
Speaker 3: authority to do the work and an as belt for

1109
01:00:01,855 --> 01:00:04,935
Speaker 3: my records? Right, because you've obviously entered my property to

1110
01:00:04,975 --> 01:00:08,175
Speaker 3: do this work. See what their response is. I mean,

1111
01:00:08,215 --> 01:00:11,055
Speaker 3: if they don't have a response to that, that would

1112
01:00:11,095 --> 01:00:14,855
Speaker 3: be quite interesting. But I would start there.

1113
01:00:15,895 --> 01:00:19,415
Speaker 15: Yeah. I did go to the council and then the

1114
01:00:19,495 --> 01:00:23,455
Speaker 15: body of the city council one and then they said, oh,

1115
01:00:23,615 --> 01:00:25,615
Speaker 15: I know, there's not something we would have done that

1116
01:00:25,655 --> 01:00:31,655
Speaker 15: there would have been well Into Water okay, And yeah,

1117
01:00:31,695 --> 01:00:35,375
Speaker 15: they sent something through to them and said that they'll

1118
01:00:35,375 --> 01:00:40,575
Speaker 15: get hold of me and and they sent an email.

1119
01:00:40,695 --> 01:00:42,815
Speaker 15: But I've tried getting hold of them.

1120
01:00:42,855 --> 01:00:48,375
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I can understand the frustration. I think

1121
01:00:48,415 --> 01:00:51,055
Speaker 3: in this instance, if it is Wellington Water acting sort

1122
01:00:51,055 --> 01:00:54,375
Speaker 3: of as the authority in the area, I would still

1123
01:00:54,415 --> 01:00:56,975
Speaker 3: have thought that they would have needed permission to enter

1124
01:00:57,015 --> 01:00:59,895
Speaker 3: the property and there would there should be a paper trail, right,

1125
01:00:59,975 --> 01:01:02,695
Speaker 3: So I'd start with them. I can imagine that it

1126
01:01:02,855 --> 01:01:05,655
Speaker 3: might not be that easy, but you're just going to

1127
01:01:05,695 --> 01:01:09,135
Speaker 3: be persistent and get a paper trail and get an

1128
01:01:09,175 --> 01:01:12,415
Speaker 3: ass built. Ideally, if it's a public line that runs

1129
01:01:12,415 --> 01:01:14,975
Speaker 3: through your property, I would ask for a copy of

1130
01:01:15,015 --> 01:01:18,935
Speaker 3: the cc CCTV survey that they should have done at

1131
01:01:18,975 --> 01:01:21,895
Speaker 3: the end of it to show that it works. Properly,

1132
01:01:23,295 --> 01:01:26,815
Speaker 3: and yeah, there's got to be a paper trail.

1133
01:01:28,095 --> 01:01:31,295
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, it's just everyone. I'm talking to them. No

1134
01:01:31,335 --> 01:01:33,655
Speaker 15: one knows nothing, you know, and you know, and they

1135
01:01:33,695 --> 01:01:35,695
Speaker 15: put you onto someone else and then they know nothing.

1136
01:01:36,495 --> 01:01:37,015
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

1137
01:01:38,175 --> 01:01:39,055
Speaker 15: Bar want to gone?

1138
01:01:39,175 --> 01:01:39,815
Speaker 13: Do you know what I mean?

1139
01:01:40,775 --> 01:01:42,575
Speaker 3: I don't know that you'll have much luck in getting

1140
01:01:42,575 --> 01:01:45,775
Speaker 3: it gone. And I raised an issue a couple of

1141
01:01:45,815 --> 01:01:49,175
Speaker 3: weeks ago where I'd read an article online about a

1142
01:01:49,215 --> 01:01:51,095
Speaker 3: guy who kind of was a bit upset and a

1143
01:01:51,095 --> 01:01:54,375
Speaker 3: bit you know, perplexed as to how this manhole suddenly

1144
01:01:54,415 --> 01:01:57,335
Speaker 3: appeared in his driveway right outside his front door. And

1145
01:01:57,375 --> 01:01:59,895
Speaker 3: it was a development across the road where they thrust

1146
01:02:00,095 --> 01:02:04,015
Speaker 3: a new storm water line underneath the road, underneath his

1147
01:02:04,255 --> 01:02:07,655
Speaker 3: driveway or shared driveway to make a connection to a

1148
01:02:07,815 --> 01:02:11,895
Speaker 3: public stormwater line, and then installed, as they often do,

1149
01:02:12,095 --> 01:02:17,735
Speaker 3: a manhole at that point for maintenance purposes, right, And

1150
01:02:18,655 --> 01:02:23,575
Speaker 3: I think he had little to know ability to prevent

1151
01:02:23,655 --> 01:02:27,055
Speaker 3: that from happening. So I think in these instances where

1152
01:02:27,095 --> 01:02:31,775
Speaker 3: it's a public good, let's say, counsel could possibly override

1153
01:02:31,855 --> 01:02:36,535
Speaker 3: your individual rights. Again, great question to ask our property guy,

1154
01:02:36,575 --> 01:02:38,215
Speaker 3: who's going to join me in a few weeks time.

1155
01:02:39,255 --> 01:02:42,935
Speaker 3: Got a specialist public property lawyer coming on the show,

1156
01:02:42,975 --> 01:02:46,095
Speaker 3: so I'll add that to my lot increasingly growing list

1157
01:02:46,135 --> 01:02:48,855
Speaker 3: of questions to ask him. But I think in your instance,

1158
01:02:50,055 --> 01:02:52,055
Speaker 3: none of this could have happened without there being some

1159
01:02:52,215 --> 01:02:56,015
Speaker 3: paper trail. So it's just a question now of going, hey,

1160
01:02:56,695 --> 01:02:58,855
Speaker 3: I need answers for this. The other thing is if

1161
01:02:58,895 --> 01:03:01,495
Speaker 3: you're not getting answers from the bureaucrats right the people

1162
01:03:01,535 --> 01:03:05,335
Speaker 3: at Wellington Water, is to go to your local board

1163
01:03:05,335 --> 01:03:09,015
Speaker 3: representative and go, hey, here's a good issue for you.

1164
01:03:09,095 --> 01:03:12,015
Speaker 3: Can you give some heft Given that we've all got

1165
01:03:12,015 --> 01:03:14,975
Speaker 3: local body elections happening next year, you'll tend to find

1166
01:03:15,015 --> 01:03:16,975
Speaker 3: that you get a decent response from them. So try

1167
01:03:17,015 --> 01:03:21,735
Speaker 3: Wellington Water tray your local board representative, and I'm pretty

1168
01:03:21,735 --> 01:03:24,495
Speaker 3: curious to be honestandiel, So if you get some answers,

1169
01:03:24,815 --> 01:03:26,215
Speaker 3: give us a call back in a couple of weeks.

1170
01:03:27,015 --> 01:03:30,855
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, because when when when I when I was

1171
01:03:30,855 --> 01:03:33,135
Speaker 15: talking to them and I said, oh, yeah, it's okay,

1172
01:03:33,255 --> 01:03:34,855
Speaker 15: I said, but I want to I want to build

1173
01:03:34,895 --> 01:03:35,975
Speaker 15: down there at some stage.

1174
01:03:36,055 --> 01:03:40,775
Speaker 3: So they've got afore you in which case now you

1175
01:03:40,815 --> 01:03:42,975
Speaker 3: have to bridge over it. So that's not easy.

1176
01:03:44,015 --> 01:03:45,975
Speaker 15: Yeah, but but I said to them, as long as

1177
01:03:46,215 --> 01:03:51,455
Speaker 15: you know, as long as it doesn't you know, you know,

1178
01:03:51,535 --> 01:03:53,295
Speaker 15: you're given the way of what I'm trying to do,

1179
01:03:54,015 --> 01:03:54,495
Speaker 15: and it.

1180
01:03:54,495 --> 01:03:58,935
Speaker 3: Will be now, and you don't want to go through

1181
01:03:58,975 --> 01:04:01,455
Speaker 3: the expense of changing it, so suddenly you'll be bridging it.

1182
01:04:03,255 --> 01:04:07,575
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get onto council and let us know how

1183
01:04:07,615 --> 01:04:08,095
Speaker 3: you get.

1184
01:04:07,895 --> 01:04:10,895
Speaker 15: On Yet thinking alright, you.

1185
01:04:10,815 --> 01:04:16,375
Speaker 3: Take court care all the best by way. Um, someone's

1186
01:04:16,415 --> 01:04:18,575
Speaker 3: text through and said, if it was a rental property,

1187
01:04:18,575 --> 01:04:20,415
Speaker 3: I bet you they dealt with the tenants thinking they

1188
01:04:20,455 --> 01:04:24,095
Speaker 3: were the owners. It's possible, but you'd also look at

1189
01:04:24,095 --> 01:04:27,975
Speaker 3: that and go, crikey, that's that's pretty poor administration if

1190
01:04:28,015 --> 01:04:30,015
Speaker 3: you don't. Actually, I mean, how long would it take

1191
01:04:30,055 --> 01:04:32,135
Speaker 3: to figure out who the actual legal owner of the

1192
01:04:32,135 --> 01:04:35,095
Speaker 3: property is a couple of minutes with the records that

1193
01:04:35,095 --> 01:04:38,615
Speaker 3: they've got. I mean, Daniel's paying the rates. You think

1194
01:04:38,655 --> 01:04:42,015
Speaker 3: you'd give him a call, but he's not there. It

1195
01:04:42,015 --> 01:04:45,375
Speaker 3: could be the landlord's permission to the owners pipe through

1196
01:04:45,415 --> 01:04:48,695
Speaker 3: our question who pays on our section? That's a big ouch.

1197
01:04:48,815 --> 01:04:50,895
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Oh eight one hundred and eighty

1198
01:04:51,015 --> 01:04:52,815
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Well, we'll put that on hold for a

1199
01:04:52,815 --> 01:04:56,695
Speaker 3: minute because we'll take your text questions for our painting

1200
01:04:56,775 --> 01:05:01,095
Speaker 3: expert Bryce McDermott from regularly contributed to the show. Always

1201
01:05:01,095 --> 01:05:02,655
Speaker 3: great to have him on. He's going to join me

1202
01:05:02,695 --> 01:05:04,495
Speaker 3: in just a moment straight after the break. If you've

1203
01:05:04,535 --> 01:05:08,295
Speaker 3: got some specific painting question. Nine to nine two zid

1204
01:05:08,335 --> 01:05:12,375
Speaker 3: BZB is the text number for you right now. You

1205
01:05:12,535 --> 01:05:14,295
Speaker 3: when you talk, there be people of camp with you

1206
01:05:14,335 --> 01:05:18,615
Speaker 3: and our painting expert Bryce from Razine A very good morning, sir.

1207
01:05:19,055 --> 01:05:20,855
Speaker 7: Good morning, how are you good?

1208
01:05:20,935 --> 01:05:23,735
Speaker 3: Good? And we talked to one of your colleagues earlier on,

1209
01:05:23,895 --> 01:05:27,175
Speaker 3: Richard Meurehead, who does the automotive and light industrial stuff,

1210
01:05:27,495 --> 01:05:29,575
Speaker 3: so he's up in Barcelona. Because it seems like the

1211
01:05:29,615 --> 01:05:32,735
Speaker 3: secret sauce for the for the Kiwi's has been the

1212
01:05:33,255 --> 01:05:35,815
Speaker 3: razine coating. It makes it all go faster.

1213
01:05:37,015 --> 01:05:40,015
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly sure. What the coating is.

1214
01:05:40,735 --> 01:05:43,815
Speaker 3: Dura box Apparently, whatever it is, it's worked, it's worked.

1215
01:05:43,895 --> 01:05:48,575
Speaker 3: Theah absolutely. Hey, as it happens, one of our earlier

1216
01:05:48,615 --> 01:05:52,375
Speaker 3: callers was saying, look, I've had a go at cleaning

1217
01:05:52,415 --> 01:05:55,255
Speaker 3: some moss and mold off my queeler deck and now

1218
01:05:55,295 --> 01:05:57,655
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about water blasting, at which time I sort

1219
01:05:57,655 --> 01:06:00,055
Speaker 3: of went, oh, I'm not sure about the water blasting.

1220
01:06:00,135 --> 01:06:02,935
Speaker 3: So if we are cleaning our decks, and it's pretty

1221
01:06:02,975 --> 01:06:05,815
Speaker 3: much that time. I bumped into another guy yesterday we're

1222
01:06:05,815 --> 01:06:08,175
Speaker 3: down at the food trucks, and I said, what you've

1223
01:06:08,175 --> 01:06:10,375
Speaker 3: been up to? He says, I've just finished coating the deck,

1224
01:06:10,655 --> 01:06:12,855
Speaker 3: done all the cleaning, getting it all ready for summer.

1225
01:06:12,895 --> 01:06:16,095
Speaker 3: So it's the season, right, If we're cleaning our decks,

1226
01:06:16,095 --> 01:06:16,655
Speaker 3: what do we do.

1227
01:06:17,575 --> 01:06:20,855
Speaker 7: Well, We've got a product called Timber and Deck Wash, yep.

1228
01:06:21,735 --> 01:06:25,935
Speaker 7: And you apply that with a garden spray or something

1229
01:06:25,975 --> 01:06:29,895
Speaker 7: like that and basically scrub it as well, you know,

1230
01:06:29,975 --> 01:06:32,535
Speaker 7: as roughly as you possibly can with a stiff nylon

1231
01:06:32,575 --> 01:06:37,735
Speaker 7: bristle broom, and it will basically render the deck ready

1232
01:06:37,815 --> 01:06:41,615
Speaker 7: to accept stain. The material actually opens up the timber

1233
01:06:41,655 --> 01:06:45,455
Speaker 7: fibers and allows the timber to readily accept some more stain. Yes,

1234
01:06:46,015 --> 01:06:51,175
Speaker 7: it also removes old stained residue as well, and then

1235
01:06:51,215 --> 01:06:54,895
Speaker 7: you're basically ready to go. If it's moss and mold

1236
01:06:54,935 --> 01:06:56,935
Speaker 7: there as well, you could probably use it in conjunction

1237
01:06:57,055 --> 01:06:59,135
Speaker 7: with moss and mold killer, but not at the same time.

1238
01:06:59,975 --> 01:07:03,735
Speaker 7: But yeah, it gets timber quite quite clean. There's a

1239
01:07:03,735 --> 01:07:07,375
Speaker 7: good video on YouTube that we've done called how to

1240
01:07:07,375 --> 01:07:10,215
Speaker 7: clean your deck with wrist and stain with Zum decking

1241
01:07:10,255 --> 01:07:13,335
Speaker 7: oil stack and it shows you graphically how good this

1242
01:07:13,575 --> 01:07:18,135
Speaker 7: material is without wanting your listeners to abandon you.

1243
01:07:18,175 --> 01:07:21,575
Speaker 3: No, I agree. If you need some online content, check

1244
01:07:21,615 --> 01:07:22,335
Speaker 3: it out. It's great.

1245
01:07:22,975 --> 01:07:26,255
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, physically actually seeing the material in action,

1246
01:07:26,535 --> 01:07:28,015
Speaker 7: it is quite a good thing. I watched it on

1247
01:07:28,055 --> 01:07:33,095
Speaker 7: Friday and I said, I mention that absolutely.

1248
01:07:33,255 --> 01:07:37,615
Speaker 3: Is this the one that features our co collaborator on

1249
01:07:37,655 --> 01:07:42,175
Speaker 3: this jay he's out there doing No, it's another one.

1250
01:07:42,175 --> 01:07:44,895
Speaker 7: I think it's brilliant. I think it's somebody from Wellington

1251
01:07:44,935 --> 01:07:48,495
Speaker 7: perhaps who was doing it. They never showed their face. Awesome,

1252
01:07:49,215 --> 01:07:51,055
Speaker 7: but you know it's well worth the look and it

1253
01:07:51,175 --> 01:07:52,655
Speaker 7: just shows you how good this stuff is.

1254
01:07:52,935 --> 01:07:56,015
Speaker 3: Tips and tricks okay, and the product is timber and

1255
01:07:56,095 --> 01:08:00,335
Speaker 3: deck wash. Yes, okay, all right, now here we go.

1256
01:08:02,055 --> 01:08:04,615
Speaker 3: First text in good morning. My deck has had the

1257
01:08:04,695 --> 01:08:08,655
Speaker 3: full water blast treatment. It's not great now, very black

1258
01:08:08,695 --> 01:08:12,135
Speaker 3: and mildewy. Any tips on recovery. So in this instance

1259
01:08:12,175 --> 01:08:15,615
Speaker 3: here they've cleaned it. The mold growth has come back.

1260
01:08:16,055 --> 01:08:20,375
Speaker 3: So for Sarah, it's a case of timber and deckwash,

1261
01:08:20,655 --> 01:08:22,695
Speaker 3: stiff broom agitate rintse.

1262
01:08:23,695 --> 01:08:28,095
Speaker 7: Yeah, you actually leave the material on the timber for

1263
01:08:28,215 --> 01:08:31,775
Speaker 7: about ten to fifteen minutes, yep. Don't let it dry

1264
01:08:31,855 --> 01:08:34,335
Speaker 7: in that time, to just sort of hang around and

1265
01:08:34,415 --> 01:08:37,135
Speaker 7: retauch it, work it around a bit, you know, scrub

1266
01:08:37,175 --> 01:08:39,975
Speaker 7: and leave it on for fifteen minutes and it should

1267
01:08:40,055 --> 01:08:42,575
Speaker 7: do the trick. If it's still black. You may want

1268
01:08:42,615 --> 01:08:44,615
Speaker 7: to use some moss and mold killer as well, but

1269
01:08:45,535 --> 01:08:47,855
Speaker 7: you do that separately to the timber and deckwish. I'll

1270
01:08:47,855 --> 01:08:51,295
Speaker 7: probably do the mossi mal treatment first, Yes, the the

1271
01:08:51,375 --> 01:08:52,975
Speaker 7: timber and deckwish after that.

1272
01:08:53,135 --> 01:08:57,015
Speaker 3: After that everything right. Just in terms of like you

1273
01:08:57,375 --> 01:09:02,095
Speaker 3: made the comment about the timber and deckwash opens up

1274
01:09:02,135 --> 01:09:05,535
Speaker 3: the fiber to make it more readily acceptable of a

1275
01:09:05,575 --> 01:09:09,935
Speaker 3: coating hatten, Like does it need to be dry when

1276
01:09:09,975 --> 01:09:12,415
Speaker 3: you apply the coating? Like how do you determine when

1277
01:09:12,535 --> 01:09:14,695
Speaker 3: is the right time to then start the coating after

1278
01:09:14,695 --> 01:09:15,615
Speaker 3: you finish the washing.

1279
01:09:16,375 --> 01:09:19,415
Speaker 7: Well, I would do all your preparation one day, and

1280
01:09:19,535 --> 01:09:22,175
Speaker 7: depending on the weather, the timber should be dry enough

1281
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Speaker 7: to accept stain or whatever coating that you're putting on

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01:09:24,895 --> 01:09:28,615
Speaker 7: there the next day. So yeah, if you've got a nice,

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01:09:28,655 --> 01:09:32,135
Speaker 7: good drying day, you know, the sun's out, the winds

1284
01:09:32,415 --> 01:09:35,655
Speaker 7: carrying on, you know, like it normally does. You should

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01:09:35,695 --> 01:09:37,815
Speaker 7: be able to do it the next day, but you know,

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01:09:38,255 --> 01:09:41,455
Speaker 7: use your judgment obviously. If the timber still looks wet,

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Speaker 7: then you know, just make it hold as you see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, brilliant, Thank you, Stephen has taxed through. Hey

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Speaker 3: I've got a forty year old house. I'm planning to

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01:09:51,415 --> 01:09:54,495
Speaker 3: paint it, but I have found that the top enamel

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01:09:54,615 --> 01:09:57,775
Speaker 3: coat can be separated from the undercoat very easily with

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01:09:57,855 --> 01:10:01,095
Speaker 3: a scraper. Is this usual? Do I need to remove

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01:10:01,215 --> 01:10:03,895
Speaker 3: the whole top coat to achieve a good job?

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01:10:05,695 --> 01:10:08,655
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's sounds like there's something in this there. It's

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01:10:08,695 --> 01:10:11,695
Speaker 7: probably mean to actually strip that material off, you know,

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Speaker 7: take it back to be a timber and start again,

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01:10:13,775 --> 01:10:16,935
Speaker 7: because it'll just, you know, it'll just create problems further

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01:10:16,975 --> 01:10:17,815
Speaker 7: down the line for you.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Because otherwise all you're going to do is apply

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01:10:21,255 --> 01:10:23,455
Speaker 3: your new paint to the old paint. The old paint's

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01:10:23,455 --> 01:10:25,255
Speaker 3: going to fall off and take the new paint with it.

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Speaker 7: Well, yes, and you know, the the new paint as

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01:10:29,375 --> 01:10:32,335
Speaker 7: it's drying and during it creates surface tension as well,

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Speaker 7: and you know it can actually right after the old

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01:10:35,095 --> 01:10:36,895
Speaker 7: coating is right back to be a timber and the

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01:10:36,935 --> 01:10:38,855
Speaker 7: annually way to fix it is tostrip it.

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01:10:39,415 --> 01:10:39,615
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. It also hadn't another one interesting one where someone

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Speaker 3: has had some painting done recently and admittedly they've used

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Speaker 3: razine paint, so they've done the sefites. It was painted

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Speaker 3: about three weeks ago. When it's a bit cold or damp,

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Speaker 3: they're seeing bubbles appear, and then as the temperature heats up,

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01:11:00,295 --> 01:11:02,655
Speaker 3: the bubbles disappear. What's happening there?

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Speaker 7: It could have been applied and you know, too cold

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01:11:06,855 --> 01:11:11,295
Speaker 7: or too damp conditions, right, or maybe you know late

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01:11:11,375 --> 01:11:13,615
Speaker 7: in the day when you know you're not actually getting

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01:11:13,615 --> 01:11:17,055
Speaker 7: proper curing of the paint coating. Yes, so you know,

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01:11:17,055 --> 01:11:19,455
Speaker 7: when moisture gets on it and it blisters, there's you know,

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01:11:19,575 --> 01:11:22,375
Speaker 7: it says to me that something's gone wrong at the

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01:11:22,415 --> 01:11:23,815
Speaker 7: point of our initial application.

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Speaker 3: Solutions start again.

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Speaker 7: I've seen you know, the whole side of the house

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01:11:30,655 --> 01:11:32,935
Speaker 7: blister and then you later on in the day it's

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01:11:32,935 --> 01:11:36,135
Speaker 7: all sucked back and looks fine again. You know, It's right.

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01:11:36,255 --> 01:11:38,655
Speaker 7: Paint does very odd things sometimes.

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Speaker 3: I guess the paint itself holds itself together, but might

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01:11:42,455 --> 01:11:44,935
Speaker 3: not stick always to the to the substrate. And that's

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Speaker 3: the preparation issue, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, But you know you've got to you've got to

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01:11:50,095 --> 01:11:52,295
Speaker 7: allow you know, the paint to do its thing. You know,

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Speaker 7: if it's it's not put on in the right conditions,

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Speaker 7: then it will suffer. So paint too late in the

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Speaker 7: day and it's been pretty cold and wet of late,

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Speaker 7: so which is unus surprising yep. Yeah, So just bear

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01:12:11,495 --> 01:12:13,495
Speaker 7: that in mind. You know, as you know I've said

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Speaker 7: in the past, we lifted days cold or if it's

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01:12:17,495 --> 01:12:19,255
Speaker 7: you know, there's a bit of moisture around in the year,

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01:12:19,375 --> 01:12:23,455
Speaker 7: check your humidity on you on your whether at on

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Speaker 7: your phone yep. And you know, paint between ten and

1340
01:12:26,815 --> 01:12:29,815
Speaker 7: two and everything should be fined. But you make a

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Speaker 7: judgment call at the time.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now, this is a classic what's the best practice

1343
01:12:36,095 --> 01:12:40,375
Speaker 3: when painting old wood grained, hardy plank weatherboards. If you

1344
01:12:40,415 --> 01:12:43,575
Speaker 3: do the sanding, you only end up hitting the high spots, right.

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01:12:44,775 --> 01:12:47,655
Speaker 3: So in that instance there where you've got effectively a

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01:12:47,655 --> 01:12:51,695
Speaker 3: wood grain or a textured surface to it. Preparation prior

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01:12:51,735 --> 01:12:52,535
Speaker 3: to painting for that.

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Speaker 7: Ye, well, if the if the paint cating that's there

1349
01:12:56,295 --> 01:12:59,455
Speaker 7: already is in sound condition, and a good scrub down

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01:12:59,575 --> 01:13:02,375
Speaker 7: with house washing paint preple get it ready for painting.

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01:13:03,375 --> 01:13:06,735
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, yes, you can't really sand it,

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01:13:06,775 --> 01:13:09,575
Speaker 7: so the house wash and paint prep. We'll we'll bring

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01:13:09,615 --> 01:13:11,655
Speaker 7: that up and you know, nice and clean and get

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01:13:11,735 --> 01:13:15,055
Speaker 7: and ready for a new coat of paint. Any beer areas.

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01:13:15,735 --> 01:13:17,815
Speaker 7: Just spot that was the good old shore.

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01:13:17,655 --> 01:13:22,415
Speaker 3: Seal yeap, okay, so sure seal, clean, sure seal and

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01:13:22,455 --> 01:13:23,095
Speaker 3: then top coat.

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Speaker 6: Yep, yep.

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01:13:25,215 --> 01:13:28,615
Speaker 3: Someone has used a five year old water based paint

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01:13:28,735 --> 01:13:31,135
Speaker 3: on the inside of a double wardrobe and now it

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01:13:31,335 --> 01:13:37,055
Speaker 3: smells slightly of cat We I've redone it with a

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01:13:37,095 --> 01:13:43,255
Speaker 3: wall board sealer, but it's still detectable. What to do now?

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01:13:43,335 --> 01:13:45,535
Speaker 3: Just before that in terms of you know, I mean,

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01:13:45,535 --> 01:13:48,255
Speaker 3: we're we all do this right. We do a job,

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01:13:48,295 --> 01:13:50,495
Speaker 3: and then we keep the tin and we keep it

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01:13:50,535 --> 01:13:52,735
Speaker 3: under the bench and the workshopper and the garage and

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01:13:52,735 --> 01:13:54,055
Speaker 3: all the rest of it, and then we drag it

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01:13:54,095 --> 01:13:56,455
Speaker 3: out years later and we go, oh, just use that last.

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01:13:56,495 --> 01:13:59,735
Speaker 3: But how do you know when paint's basically gone.

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Speaker 6: Off, Well, you'd be able to smell it, right.

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01:14:04,775 --> 01:14:07,375
Speaker 7: If it's more than five years all depending on how

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01:14:07,415 --> 01:14:10,135
Speaker 7: it was stored. I would be viewing it with some caution.

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01:14:10,415 --> 01:14:13,735
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not a good cat.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I.

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01:14:17,535 --> 01:14:21,615
Speaker 7: But you know, I would probably you'd probably have to

1376
01:14:21,615 --> 01:14:24,615
Speaker 7: look at you know, maybe coating it with big mended

1377
01:14:24,655 --> 01:14:26,935
Speaker 7: Zieler and getting a new batch of paint to try

1378
01:14:26,975 --> 01:14:36,015
Speaker 7: and lock at it. M Yeah, okay, so strange things sometimes.

1379
01:14:36,175 --> 01:14:40,455
Speaker 3: Sure does Now roof painting, how do you wreck This

1380
01:14:40,495 --> 01:14:43,415
Speaker 3: isn't good news. How do you rectify a ten month

1381
01:14:43,495 --> 01:14:47,855
Speaker 3: old paint job that's bubbled? What causes the bubbling? The

1382
01:14:47,895 --> 01:14:50,735
Speaker 3: house roof is about twenty two years old. It's an

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01:14:50,775 --> 01:14:55,095
Speaker 3: old iron trappersoidol. Let's assume that it might have been

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01:14:55,295 --> 01:14:59,175
Speaker 3: a color coated product in the first place. It's faded,

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01:14:59,215 --> 01:15:01,215
Speaker 3: they've had it repainted. Now it's bubbling.

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01:15:02,895 --> 01:15:04,895
Speaker 7: So when you say color coated, you mean something.

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Speaker 6: Like like color steel like that. Yeah?

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01:15:07,655 --> 01:15:13,455
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I mean the only time I've ever seen

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01:15:13,535 --> 01:15:17,295
Speaker 7: rufes blister like that is there are previous coatings that

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01:15:17,375 --> 01:15:22,855
Speaker 7: are already right that maybe the preparation wasn't that great

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01:15:22,895 --> 01:15:27,135
Speaker 7: in the first place. When whoever did it originally didn't

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01:15:27,135 --> 01:15:30,575
Speaker 7: do their preparation well and the old coatings are blistering away,

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01:15:31,495 --> 01:15:32,975
Speaker 7: So you might want to pop a couple of those

1394
01:15:33,015 --> 01:15:38,535
Speaker 7: blisters and just see how far back that goes, gotcha. Yeah,

1395
01:15:39,095 --> 01:15:41,415
Speaker 7: you might find a couple of layers of paint underneath it.

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01:15:41,455 --> 01:15:45,055
Speaker 7: So it depends. But if it's color steel and it

1397
01:15:45,095 --> 01:15:48,375
Speaker 7: hasn't had a coating on it before, if it's bubbling

1398
01:15:48,455 --> 01:15:52,255
Speaker 7: or blistering, then again it could have been affected by

1399
01:15:52,295 --> 01:15:56,695
Speaker 7: weather and temperature, because steel is normally about ten degrees

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01:15:56,815 --> 01:16:00,455
Speaker 7: colder than the surrounding atmosphere. So another thing you have

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01:16:00,535 --> 01:16:02,695
Speaker 7: to take into account. You know, if you're doing it

1402
01:16:02,695 --> 01:16:05,575
Speaker 7: on a cold day, maybe it's not a good idea.

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01:16:06,775 --> 01:16:10,495
Speaker 3: And the other thing is if you are painting over

1404
01:16:10,855 --> 01:16:13,655
Speaker 3: something that's already had like color steel or one of

1405
01:16:13,695 --> 01:16:16,495
Speaker 3: those sort of pre finished coatings on it, is that

1406
01:16:16,535 --> 01:16:18,655
Speaker 3: there's a specific primer. Is that right?

1407
01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:19,735
Speaker 6: There is?

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01:16:21,455 --> 01:16:24,535
Speaker 7: The product is called three coated steel primer, right.

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01:16:25,095 --> 01:16:27,855
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you're thinking about recoating something that's already

1410
01:16:27,895 --> 01:16:30,575
Speaker 3: had a coat or repainting, you need to use that

1411
01:16:30,615 --> 01:16:32,095
Speaker 3: primer to get that bonding.

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01:16:32,855 --> 01:16:34,615
Speaker 7: Yeah, and make sure that you give it a good

1413
01:16:34,735 --> 01:16:38,695
Speaker 7: washdown and just to remove all the lichen and dust

1414
01:16:38,855 --> 01:16:42,375
Speaker 7: and yes, and sold if you're right next to the ocean.

1415
01:16:42,455 --> 01:16:45,055
Speaker 7: Mind you, you know in New Zealand everybody lives right

1416
01:16:45,095 --> 01:16:45,575
Speaker 7: next door to.

1417
01:16:45,575 --> 01:16:47,095
Speaker 3: The ocean pretty much.

1418
01:16:46,975 --> 01:16:49,175
Speaker 7: Even if you live on Mount Cook. Evidently you can

1419
01:16:49,215 --> 01:16:51,095
Speaker 7: get salt in the atmosphere, right.

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01:16:52,175 --> 01:16:55,095
Speaker 3: And I think to your comment about allowing enough time

1421
01:16:55,135 --> 01:16:58,015
Speaker 3: for product to dry properly is really important. And I

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01:16:58,495 --> 01:16:59,935
Speaker 3: went and had a look at a property the other

1423
01:17:00,015 --> 01:17:03,095
Speaker 3: day and they said, oh, they've just repainted the roof.

1424
01:17:03,215 --> 01:17:06,015
Speaker 3: And I got up on the ladder and there was

1425
01:17:06,055 --> 01:17:08,615
Speaker 3: all us water in the spouting and it was the

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01:17:08,655 --> 01:17:12,535
Speaker 3: same color as the roof, so that obviously painted it

1427
01:17:12,655 --> 01:17:14,975
Speaker 3: in a hell of a rush. And then that had

1428
01:17:14,975 --> 01:17:17,255
Speaker 3: some rain and half of it was in the spouting.

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01:17:18,055 --> 01:17:22,375
Speaker 7: So one of the first things I ever had a

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01:17:22,375 --> 01:17:25,295
Speaker 7: look at when I started, you know, being a sales

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01:17:25,335 --> 01:17:28,575
Speaker 7: with it, chat brung me. He says, I painted this

1432
01:17:28,695 --> 01:17:33,895
Speaker 7: roof yesterday and now it's all gone, Oh no, yeah,

1433
01:17:34,015 --> 01:17:37,695
Speaker 7: And I, you know, being a bit green, I didn't

1434
01:17:37,695 --> 01:17:40,975
Speaker 7: know what all that was. There was basically the primer

1435
01:17:41,095 --> 01:17:44,975
Speaker 7: and color and the channels of the corrugated iron. It

1436
01:17:45,015 --> 01:17:49,255
Speaker 7: had been hit by dew overnight before it had cured properly, right,

1437
01:17:49,415 --> 01:17:51,015
Speaker 7: and ran down together.

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01:17:51,455 --> 01:17:53,335
Speaker 3: Yeah. So even if it's not the rain, it's the

1439
01:17:53,415 --> 01:17:55,055
Speaker 3: dew overnight that'll take it off.

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01:17:56,015 --> 01:17:58,135
Speaker 7: And again the temperature of the metal as well if

1441
01:17:58,135 --> 01:17:58,695
Speaker 7: it was painted.

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01:17:59,615 --> 01:18:02,535
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, pace to read the instructions. A.

1443
01:18:03,535 --> 01:18:07,255
Speaker 7: Yeah, just what's that you the ad.

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01:18:10,335 --> 01:18:12,695
Speaker 3: A think about it, think about it for a moment.

1445
01:18:13,815 --> 01:18:17,335
Speaker 3: Very wise words. As always Bryce McDermott, our painting expert

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01:18:17,375 --> 01:18:20,015
Speaker 3: from the good people at Razine, Thank you very much

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01:18:20,055 --> 01:18:22,695
Speaker 3: for your time this morning. Much appreciated. Take care all

1448
01:18:22,735 --> 01:18:25,415
Speaker 3: of us. By then we'll take a short break. We'll

1449
01:18:25,415 --> 01:18:35,015
Speaker 3: be back with Brian in just a moment. I typically

1450
01:18:35,055 --> 01:18:37,335
Speaker 3: use this music when I think back of someone that

1451
01:18:37,335 --> 01:18:40,175
Speaker 3: I've encountered during the week who's kind of gone above

1452
01:18:40,215 --> 01:18:43,295
Speaker 3: and beyond or helped me out in some way. So

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01:18:43,375 --> 01:18:45,455
Speaker 3: I just want to take a moment before the break

1454
01:18:45,575 --> 01:18:49,535
Speaker 3: to shout out to hire Paul to the North Shore

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01:18:49,535 --> 01:18:53,935
Speaker 3: branch in particular. So I'm involved in a number of

1456
01:18:53,935 --> 01:18:59,655
Speaker 3: community projects over various over time and that sort of thing,

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01:18:59,975 --> 01:19:01,975
Speaker 3: and every now and then I'll sort of reach out

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01:19:02,015 --> 01:19:04,735
Speaker 3: to someone that I know and go, hey, look, can

1459
01:19:04,775 --> 01:19:08,335
Speaker 3: you help me out with some materials or some labor

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01:19:08,535 --> 01:19:12,135
Speaker 3: or some product or supply something, and so when the

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01:19:12,815 --> 01:19:17,135
Speaker 3: local school that I'm involved with needed to separate out

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01:19:17,215 --> 01:19:21,895
Speaker 3: the work area repainting the hall from the kids, obviously

1463
01:19:21,935 --> 01:19:24,375
Speaker 3: with their return at the beginning of the week, I

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01:19:24,455 --> 01:19:26,975
Speaker 3: went to hire Paul and said, hey, look, can you

1465
01:19:27,095 --> 01:19:30,495
Speaker 3: help out with some sight fencing, which they did, which

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01:19:30,535 --> 01:19:33,535
Speaker 3: I thought was pretty damn stunning. So my thanks to

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01:19:33,575 --> 01:19:37,015
Speaker 3: them for their support. And this isn't the first time,

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01:19:37,055 --> 01:19:38,855
Speaker 3: and to be fair, it probably won't be the last

1469
01:19:38,855 --> 01:19:40,895
Speaker 3: time that I sort of reach out shoulder tap them

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01:19:40,895 --> 01:19:43,015
Speaker 3: and say, hey, look can you help me out? Can

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01:19:43,055 --> 01:19:44,735
Speaker 3: you be my hero for a day? So thanks to

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01:19:44,775 --> 01:19:47,095
Speaker 3: the team out at Highpool for that. The other one

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01:19:47,135 --> 01:19:48,975
Speaker 3: is I just want to let you know. Last week

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01:19:48,975 --> 01:19:50,895
Speaker 3: on the program we had a call from Rachel, who

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01:19:50,975 --> 01:19:53,855
Speaker 3: was a woman who lived in an older bungalow was

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01:19:53,935 --> 01:19:56,575
Speaker 3: really worried about the state of the electrics and had

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01:19:56,615 --> 01:20:00,175
Speaker 3: been told that there was some risk. I rang my

1478
01:20:00,295 --> 01:20:03,615
Speaker 3: mate Paul, who's an electrical inspector, just to get some

1479
01:20:03,655 --> 01:20:06,735
Speaker 3: advice and to ask whether he knew someone in the area.

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01:20:06,895 --> 01:20:08,775
Speaker 3: In the end we chatted for a few months and

1481
01:20:08,815 --> 01:20:11,095
Speaker 3: you said, oh look mate, leave it with me. I'll

1482
01:20:11,135 --> 01:20:13,735
Speaker 3: go and have a lock and I'll go on and

1483
01:20:13,775 --> 01:20:15,735
Speaker 3: sort it out. Give us some advice. So again, Paul

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01:20:16,335 --> 01:20:19,175
Speaker 3: from Devenport Electrical. Thanks mate, So thanks to hypoul. Thanks

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01:20:19,215 --> 01:20:21,175
Speaker 3: to those guys for helping me out on the show.

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01:20:21,535 --> 01:20:25,415
Speaker 3: Your news talk z'd b. It is almost eight o'clock. Well,

1487
01:20:25,535 --> 01:20:27,455
Speaker 3: very good morning, welcome back to the program. Oh eight

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01:20:27,575 --> 01:20:29,975
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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01:20:30,015 --> 01:20:32,535
Speaker 3: for all of your building questions. Where we can take

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01:20:32,535 --> 01:20:34,375
Speaker 3: one more call. Then we're going to jump into our

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Speaker 3: expert segment with Marlon Johnson from Life Force Solar. So

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Speaker 3: I had a bit of a chat with Marlon on air,

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01:20:41,695 --> 01:20:43,895
Speaker 3: probably a couple of months ago. There were a couple

1494
01:20:43,895 --> 01:20:47,015
Speaker 3: of other issues that we hadn't covered. So we've got

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01:20:47,095 --> 01:20:49,095
Speaker 3: him back. He's going to be joining us in just

1496
01:20:49,215 --> 01:20:52,495
Speaker 3: a moment to talk all things solar. If you've got

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01:20:52,535 --> 01:20:56,255
Speaker 3: any specific questions around SOLA, maybe a unit that you

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01:20:56,255 --> 01:20:58,735
Speaker 3: already have, maybe it's something you're considering as part of

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01:20:58,735 --> 01:21:00,575
Speaker 3: an alteration, maybe you're just going to add them in.

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Speaker 3: Feel free to text those questions through Marlon. Our expert

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01:21:05,175 --> 01:21:08,135
Speaker 3: will join us in the moment. But Brian, thanks for

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01:21:08,135 --> 01:21:09,895
Speaker 3: holding on. A quick question for you.

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01:21:09,855 --> 01:21:14,735
Speaker 9: Sir, Yeah, quick question was We've got some got some

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01:21:15,095 --> 01:21:19,575
Speaker 9: commercial building and outside of there, there's some concrete sort

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01:21:19,615 --> 01:21:22,815
Speaker 9: of foundations, you know, coming up out of the ground

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01:21:22,815 --> 01:21:25,535
Speaker 9: with still coming out of the top of them. And

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01:21:25,615 --> 01:21:27,655
Speaker 9: it's got a sort of a light texture on it,

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01:21:27,735 --> 01:21:30,775
Speaker 9: almost like it's been it's sprayed with sand and then

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01:21:30,855 --> 01:21:33,415
Speaker 9: and then painted over the top, right, and it it

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01:21:33,495 --> 01:21:36,735
Speaker 9: had some blistering, and I popped the because I do

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01:21:36,735 --> 01:21:39,055
Speaker 9: a bit of maintenance, so I popped popped the holes

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01:21:39,135 --> 01:21:41,375
Speaker 9: on the thing, and some water came out. Now, how

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01:21:41,375 --> 01:21:43,775
Speaker 9: the water is getting into those pillars, I have no idea.

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01:21:43,855 --> 01:21:45,175
Speaker 6: But I did try.

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01:21:45,055 --> 01:21:47,055
Speaker 9: Painting some of the paint off and repainting it, and

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01:21:47,095 --> 01:21:50,535
Speaker 9: that's just removed that that very fine texture that was

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01:21:50,575 --> 01:21:54,495
Speaker 9: originally on there. That's uniformly over now you go all

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01:21:54,455 --> 01:21:56,415
Speaker 9: the sides of the thing. So I'm just trying to

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01:21:56,415 --> 01:21:57,855
Speaker 9: work out what the heck that is.

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01:21:59,455 --> 01:22:02,055
Speaker 3: What the moisture is, what the texture, No.

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01:22:01,335 --> 01:22:03,095
Speaker 7: What the texture is?

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01:22:03,135 --> 01:22:06,855
Speaker 9: Yeah, because I can't you know, I've painted the top

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01:22:07,015 --> 01:22:10,135
Speaker 9: with a with a decent paint, but unfortunately you can

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01:22:10,335 --> 01:22:13,535
Speaker 9: you can see it's quite obvious death the actual the

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01:22:13,575 --> 01:22:15,895
Speaker 9: paint that was textured because it was painted over the

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01:22:16,255 --> 01:22:19,375
Speaker 9: it's almost like the you know, the cast the cast

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01:22:19,375 --> 01:22:23,215
Speaker 9: the concrete supports, and then sprayed it with with sort

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01:22:23,215 --> 01:22:26,575
Speaker 9: of like a feedy, grainy sort of sand and let

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01:22:26,655 --> 01:22:28,495
Speaker 9: that dry, and then they've painted over the top. So

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01:22:28,575 --> 01:22:32,535
Speaker 9: it's got this very fine years.

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01:22:33,255 --> 01:22:35,135
Speaker 3: I wonder whether you know, if you think back in

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01:22:35,175 --> 01:22:39,135
Speaker 3: the day she was we used to do like fiber

1533
01:22:39,175 --> 01:22:41,735
Speaker 3: cement sheet. I mean, this isn't best practice, right, but

1534
01:22:41,775 --> 01:22:44,055
Speaker 3: this is what we used to fiber smentt sheet. Take

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01:22:44,135 --> 01:22:46,735
Speaker 3: the joints and then just spray like with a hopper

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01:22:46,775 --> 01:22:50,455
Speaker 3: gun a texture coating over it, and then paint over that.

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01:22:50,895 --> 01:22:53,855
Speaker 3: And I wonder whether that's what they've done. If the

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01:22:53,975 --> 01:22:57,815
Speaker 3: grains are reasonably large, as in sort of three to

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01:22:57,895 --> 01:23:03,815
Speaker 3: four millimeters, then typically sorry, they're not. They're smaller than that.

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01:23:04,175 --> 01:23:07,935
Speaker 9: It's almost like almost like you base your base sand

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01:23:07,935 --> 01:23:09,095
Speaker 9: you put under cobblestones.

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01:23:09,095 --> 01:23:09,735
Speaker 3: When you're doing.

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01:23:11,295 --> 01:23:12,455
Speaker 6: That sort of size.

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01:23:12,575 --> 01:23:15,135
Speaker 3: There was a very popular paint system again back in

1545
01:23:15,175 --> 01:23:18,735
Speaker 3: the day called sand. It was like a sand text. Essentially,

1546
01:23:18,895 --> 01:23:24,455
Speaker 3: it's just sand in paint, right, So I would probably

1547
01:23:24,655 --> 01:23:26,775
Speaker 3: do exactly that. Now that you've got a good new

1548
01:23:26,895 --> 01:23:29,695
Speaker 3: surface on, just take some of the same paint that

1549
01:23:29,735 --> 01:23:32,775
Speaker 3: you had add some some grip to it, so maybe

1550
01:23:32,815 --> 01:23:36,135
Speaker 3: some silica sand, quite fine sand, make sure it's really dry,

1551
01:23:36,855 --> 01:23:39,095
Speaker 3: make up a paste and then just paint that on

1552
01:23:39,335 --> 01:23:43,335
Speaker 3: and it'll be your van go moment. Whether you can

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01:23:43,335 --> 01:23:45,135
Speaker 3: get it to blend in and look a bit like

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01:23:45,335 --> 01:23:49,055
Speaker 3: what was already there. Okay, that will get you somewhere

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01:23:49,175 --> 01:23:50,815
Speaker 3: towards making it match.

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01:23:51,135 --> 01:23:53,495
Speaker 9: Yeah, yep, we'll do that. And before you go, I

1557
01:23:53,535 --> 01:23:55,815
Speaker 9: just wanted to make a cheek comment about last week.

1558
01:23:56,015 --> 01:23:57,335
Speaker 9: I was going to I was going to ring your

1559
01:23:57,375 --> 01:24:00,855
Speaker 9: last week and if you can become a successful builder

1560
01:24:00,895 --> 01:24:03,775
Speaker 9: and run run a building show on a three week apprenticeship,

1561
01:24:05,455 --> 01:24:07,775
Speaker 9: then when then we need to send everyone on the

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01:24:07,855 --> 01:24:08,575
Speaker 9: three week alls.

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Speaker 3: There was a beauty was it? That was awesome? Caller

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01:24:15,535 --> 01:24:18,975
Speaker 3: of the year that guy, Thank you all. You take care.

1565
01:24:19,455 --> 01:24:22,335
Speaker 3: Then right, we're starting to get some text questions, which

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01:24:22,375 --> 01:24:27,735
Speaker 3: is awesome around solar because it's one of those things

1567
01:24:27,775 --> 01:24:30,775
Speaker 3: you know, it seems simple, but it is quite complex.

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01:24:30,815 --> 01:24:32,895
Speaker 3: And I have to say, for all of the years

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01:24:32,935 --> 01:24:35,415
Speaker 3: that I've been involved with building, and I've had some

1570
01:24:35,575 --> 01:24:39,295
Speaker 3: interest in solar because of its you know, eco credential

1571
01:24:39,335 --> 01:24:44,695
Speaker 3: sustainability endurance in terms of resilience and that sort of

1572
01:24:44,735 --> 01:24:48,935
Speaker 3: thing I had I had developed in my own mind

1573
01:24:48,975 --> 01:24:52,015
Speaker 3: a series of assumptions. It was great to actually have

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01:24:52,055 --> 01:24:53,655
Speaker 3: a chat with Marlon during the week, and I thought

1575
01:24:53,655 --> 01:24:57,415
Speaker 3: we'd share that conversation with you today around the combination

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01:24:57,535 --> 01:25:01,055
Speaker 3: between solar and batteries and how they link together and

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01:25:01,055 --> 01:25:03,175
Speaker 3: what the benefits are and so on. So it is

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01:25:03,215 --> 01:25:05,535
Speaker 3: my great pleasure to welcome back onto the program the

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01:25:05,575 --> 01:25:09,135
Speaker 3: smalling Marlin Johnson from Life for Solar. A very good morning,

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01:25:09,135 --> 01:25:10,415
Speaker 3: and thanks for joining us this morning.

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01:25:11,215 --> 01:25:13,735
Speaker 6: Thank you, Pete. Great to talk to you again as well.

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01:25:13,975 --> 01:25:17,695
Speaker 3: It's a pleasure, hey, Marlon. So one of the things

1583
01:25:17,735 --> 01:25:21,095
Speaker 3: that we talked quite a bit a couple of probably

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01:25:21,095 --> 01:25:24,415
Speaker 3: a few months ago now around solar and some tips

1585
01:25:24,415 --> 01:25:26,855
Speaker 3: and tracks in terms of installation where you can put it,

1586
01:25:26,935 --> 01:25:30,975
Speaker 3: what size panels are, pre wiring, those sorts of things.

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01:25:31,655 --> 01:25:34,695
Speaker 3: So one of the other things to talk about is

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01:25:34,975 --> 01:25:40,015
Speaker 3: often we're often talking about solar and battery right with

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01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:43,135
Speaker 3: the assumption being that will hang on at night time

1590
01:25:43,335 --> 01:25:47,095
Speaker 3: when I might want to watch television, for example, then

1591
01:25:47,095 --> 01:25:49,855
Speaker 3: a battery is quite useful. So just run me through

1592
01:25:50,055 --> 01:25:56,295
Speaker 3: that combination solar and generation and storage effectively.

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01:25:57,175 --> 01:26:01,775
Speaker 6: Okay, sure, So as you've said, most people assume that

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01:26:03,335 --> 01:26:05,455
Speaker 6: you should have a battery when you're getting a solar

1595
01:26:05,455 --> 01:26:09,215
Speaker 6: system because people are using their energy in the evenings,

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01:26:10,655 --> 01:26:14,415
Speaker 6: and so there's a couple of things with that, And

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01:26:15,775 --> 01:26:18,975
Speaker 6: the main thing would be if you're getting sold with

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01:26:19,015 --> 01:26:22,175
Speaker 6: a battery, there's usually a much larger upfront cost, right.

1599
01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:27,695
Speaker 6: And when when you have a battery, you do use it,

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01:26:28,255 --> 01:26:33,455
Speaker 6: use the stored energy in the evenings, but you don't,

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01:26:33,535 --> 01:26:37,735
Speaker 6: it's not always the most cost effective or the best

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01:26:37,735 --> 01:26:40,615
Speaker 6: returnament of investment type of solution, right.

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01:26:42,135 --> 01:26:44,335
Speaker 3: And that's a really honest appraisal, isn't it, Because if

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01:26:44,375 --> 01:26:48,375
Speaker 3: you're adding batteries, batteries typically are expensive. You would be

1605
01:26:48,415 --> 01:26:53,575
Speaker 3: spending five to ten thousand dollars for battery storage.

1606
01:26:53,815 --> 01:26:58,135
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're probably starting more closer to ten and moving

1607
01:26:58,215 --> 01:27:02,375
Speaker 6: up from there just for the battery portion. And so

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01:27:02,535 --> 01:27:06,495
Speaker 6: what people will typically do instead of getting batteries go

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01:27:06,815 --> 01:27:09,135
Speaker 6: to the boundy soon as well. But what people typically

1610
01:27:09,175 --> 01:27:15,575
Speaker 6: do otherwise is get panels only. And what most companies,

1611
01:27:15,615 --> 01:27:18,015
Speaker 6: what most solar companies will try and do in terms

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01:27:18,015 --> 01:27:22,535
Speaker 6: of right sizing a system, will be to generate as

1613
01:27:22,615 --> 01:27:27,895
Speaker 6: much energy as you're using across the year day and night. Right.

1614
01:27:27,935 --> 01:27:31,095
Speaker 6: So let's say you use seven thousand units of power

1615
01:27:31,815 --> 01:27:34,655
Speaker 6: in your home and night. The goal would be to

1616
01:27:34,775 --> 01:27:38,535
Speaker 6: then generate seven thousand, at least seven thousand units on

1617
01:27:38,575 --> 01:27:40,095
Speaker 6: your roof during the day.

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01:27:40,535 --> 01:27:41,215
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

1619
01:27:41,695 --> 01:27:45,175
Speaker 6: And the reason for that is if you're over generating

1620
01:27:45,615 --> 01:27:47,455
Speaker 6: in the summer, which you would be in that sort

1621
01:27:47,455 --> 01:27:50,655
Speaker 6: of scenario, if you have that amount of panels, then

1622
01:27:50,775 --> 01:27:55,535
Speaker 6: you would be exporting energy to the grid and getting

1623
01:27:55,575 --> 01:27:59,335
Speaker 6: a credit for it, which will supplement that even usage, right,

1624
01:27:59,375 --> 01:28:03,255
Speaker 6: and will supplement the winter usage as well, if you

1625
01:28:03,935 --> 01:28:10,135
Speaker 6: have enough generation on the roof. So that's how you

1626
01:28:10,175 --> 01:28:15,295
Speaker 6: would go about having the evenings covered without a battery yep, right,

1627
01:28:17,015 --> 01:28:19,575
Speaker 6: and is typically the more cost effective way to do so.

1628
01:28:19,975 --> 01:28:23,495
Speaker 3: Okay. So and I mean, taking that sort of financial

1629
01:28:23,535 --> 01:28:26,975
Speaker 3: analysis of the investment, that that's kind of the conclusion

1630
01:28:26,975 --> 01:28:30,255
Speaker 3: that you get. I mean, I think that no one.

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01:28:30,455 --> 01:28:34,015
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that batteries can be an enormous advantage,

1632
01:28:34,015 --> 01:28:37,535
Speaker 3: but it shouldn't be. I think in our conversation we

1633
01:28:37,655 --> 01:28:41,095
Speaker 3: kind of got to the place where if you can

1634
01:28:41,135 --> 01:28:44,895
Speaker 3: afford the solar and not the batteries, it shouldn't put

1635
01:28:44,935 --> 01:28:48,375
Speaker 3: you off getting the solar. Yes, that's right, Okay, the

1636
01:28:48,415 --> 01:28:50,575
Speaker 3: generation side of it, yeah.

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01:28:50,135 --> 01:28:52,575
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, because you're still getting a

1638
01:28:52,615 --> 01:28:53,415
Speaker 6: massive benefit.

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01:28:53,695 --> 01:28:55,055
Speaker 3: Yes, And I would say that.

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01:28:56,495 --> 01:29:00,695
Speaker 6: The people that go for batteries will typically have more

1641
01:29:00,735 --> 01:29:04,415
Speaker 6: of a use case than just the savings side of it.

1642
01:29:04,695 --> 01:29:08,135
Speaker 3: Right, So we're talking resilience. We're talking people that might

1643
01:29:08,175 --> 01:29:12,215
Speaker 3: be isolated and main supply is unreliable, or possibly main

1644
01:29:12,655 --> 01:29:16,175
Speaker 3: supply if you're doing sort of new development, might be

1645
01:29:16,335 --> 01:29:20,295
Speaker 3: prohibitively expensive to bring mainz to the property exactly.

1646
01:29:20,495 --> 01:29:25,135
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. So we find that typically

1647
01:29:25,215 --> 01:29:29,335
Speaker 6: people that are getting battery storage are needing that resilience.

1648
01:29:29,695 --> 01:29:31,735
Speaker 6: Maybe they have water pumps that need to be backed

1649
01:29:31,775 --> 01:29:35,455
Speaker 6: up in the case of an outage. Ye. And then

1650
01:29:35,495 --> 01:29:37,855
Speaker 6: also people as well that just want to have that

1651
01:29:37,935 --> 01:29:41,455
Speaker 6: protection even though they don't experience that many power cuts.

1652
01:29:41,895 --> 01:29:45,335
Speaker 6: But last year, when we had a lot of areas

1653
01:29:45,375 --> 01:29:48,055
Speaker 6: having massive power cuts or for long periods of time,

1654
01:29:48,615 --> 01:29:50,735
Speaker 6: people wanting to just protect themselves against that.

1655
01:29:51,895 --> 01:29:54,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean most of us in an urban environment,

1656
01:29:54,175 --> 01:29:56,375
Speaker 3: you can put up with power cut that might last

1657
01:29:56,375 --> 01:29:58,215
Speaker 3: a couple of hours, but if it's a few days,

1658
01:29:58,295 --> 01:30:00,375
Speaker 3: then it's a pretty big issue, isn't it.

1659
01:30:01,095 --> 01:30:06,135
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, and usually the people that will typically have

1660
01:30:06,495 --> 01:30:08,335
Speaker 6: there would be a couple of hours you usually had

1661
01:30:09,095 --> 01:30:12,055
Speaker 6: more of their systems running off there, you know, like

1662
01:30:12,255 --> 01:30:16,655
Speaker 6: water septic tanks running off the electricity.

1663
01:30:17,095 --> 01:30:19,855
Speaker 3: Yeah, and these are critical systems that are part of

1664
01:30:20,135 --> 01:30:25,215
Speaker 3: being able to live comfortably in the house exactly. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey,

1665
01:30:25,455 --> 01:30:28,735
Speaker 3: I've invited people to send through a couple of text

1666
01:30:29,015 --> 01:30:31,095
Speaker 3: questions as well, so I'm starting to get a couple.

1667
01:30:31,975 --> 01:30:33,615
Speaker 3: You never know what you're going to get when you

1668
01:30:33,655 --> 01:30:36,655
Speaker 3: invite people to send in questions. So let's start with

1669
01:30:36,695 --> 01:30:39,175
Speaker 3: this one which I've never thought of before. Can you

1670
01:30:39,255 --> 01:30:42,375
Speaker 3: please comment on how to remove birds nests from under

1671
01:30:42,455 --> 01:30:46,015
Speaker 3: solar panels? Also, is there a tip to preventing birds

1672
01:30:46,015 --> 01:30:48,015
Speaker 3: from nesting under the panels?

1673
01:30:48,975 --> 01:30:54,215
Speaker 6: It's a great question. Yeah, So in terms of the removal,

1674
01:30:55,855 --> 01:30:59,815
Speaker 6: I haven't heard of, you know, a specific method to

1675
01:30:59,855 --> 01:31:08,095
Speaker 6: do so it would probably be very carefully. So in

1676
01:31:08,175 --> 01:31:11,015
Speaker 6: terms of preventing it, which I know it doesn't really

1677
01:31:11,095 --> 01:31:13,935
Speaker 6: help if it's already occurred, but in terms of preventing it,

1678
01:31:14,015 --> 01:31:18,575
Speaker 6: there are little skirts that you can put around your

1679
01:31:18,615 --> 01:31:23,415
Speaker 6: panel array and install around the panels in order to

1680
01:31:23,735 --> 01:31:26,895
Speaker 6: not have the birds be able to get under the panels.

1681
01:31:27,295 --> 01:31:30,975
Speaker 3: Yeah, just in terms of maybe doing that work the

1682
01:31:31,095 --> 01:31:35,535
Speaker 3: underside of the panel. Is there anything sensitive or delicate

1683
01:31:35,695 --> 01:31:38,975
Speaker 3: or that can be broken on the underside of the panel?

1684
01:31:39,735 --> 01:31:45,015
Speaker 6: Not typically no, no, okay, so yeah.

1685
01:31:43,775 --> 01:31:46,255
Speaker 3: But it also asks the further question, which is typically

1686
01:31:46,335 --> 01:31:48,255
Speaker 3: in terms of maintenance. So if the panels are up

1687
01:31:48,255 --> 01:31:51,495
Speaker 3: there on the roof, what is the preferred or recommended

1688
01:31:51,575 --> 01:31:53,735
Speaker 3: maintenance schedule for panels over time?

1689
01:31:55,615 --> 01:31:58,775
Speaker 6: Yeah, So panels are pretty static, right, they don't need

1690
01:31:58,775 --> 01:32:02,495
Speaker 6: a huge amount of maintenance, But in terms of cleaning them,

1691
01:32:02,735 --> 01:32:05,255
Speaker 6: it kind of depends where you are in the country.

1692
01:32:06,455 --> 01:32:10,975
Speaker 6: We'd usually recommend once a year to give it a clean.

1693
01:32:11,815 --> 01:32:14,615
Speaker 6: Some places will need less than that, some places will

1694
01:32:14,615 --> 01:32:19,255
Speaker 6: need more. I was in Nelson recently at their trade

1695
01:32:19,255 --> 01:32:23,215
Speaker 6: show down there, and every second person talked to me

1696
01:32:23,255 --> 01:32:26,695
Speaker 6: about the pollen, right that is in Nelson. So that's

1697
01:32:26,735 --> 01:32:30,295
Speaker 6: a huge thing Nelson in terms of pollen that'll get

1698
01:32:30,335 --> 01:32:33,855
Speaker 6: on the panels and if it doesn't rain too often,

1699
01:32:33,975 --> 01:32:37,455
Speaker 6: they'll stick on there. So maybe in Nelson it might

1700
01:32:37,495 --> 01:32:41,535
Speaker 6: be a case of every six to cent a months

1701
01:32:41,615 --> 01:32:44,495
Speaker 6: or something like that instead of every year. Yeah. There

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Speaker 6: are also services around that will do this for you. Yep.

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Speaker 6: If your roof is more a more dangerous one to

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Speaker 6: get up to a ponto.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we've this sort of a note of caution.

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Speaker 3: There isn't it. You know, if it's a roof where

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Speaker 3: it's you know, relatively low pitch and you can do

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01:33:02,175 --> 01:33:04,655
Speaker 3: so safely, sure, But otherwise I think that work should

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Speaker 3: be left the experts. In terms of cleaning it, is

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Speaker 3: it just water and a soft broom, is it? Can

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Speaker 3: you use a detergent or a cleaner on the surface

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Speaker 3: of a solar panel?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just a soft bristle brush and distrushing the quid

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Speaker 6: that kind of thing. Just very very like not to

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Speaker 6: embraces right.

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Speaker 3: Certainly no water blasting. We've been talking about work.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, yeah, definitely it does come up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet it does. Ridio, Marlon, just stay on

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Speaker 3: the line. We're going to take a short break. Marl

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Speaker 3: and our solar expert from Life Force Sola is with

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Speaker 3: me this morning. If you've got a question, I've still

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Speaker 3: got a couple of texts to get to, but feel

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Speaker 3: free to text them through. Who's going to be with

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Speaker 3: us for the next five ten minutes. Are going to

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Speaker 3: take a short break. Be back in a moment thinking

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Speaker 3: dot Nz. You're with Peak wolf Camp here at Newstalk

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Speaker 3: zedb Marlon is with us just a couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: to go, Marlon, couple of quick questions for you, Um,

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Speaker 3: A couple of people have sort of asking in terms

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Speaker 3: of commercial. So if you you are running a business

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01:35:07,935 --> 01:35:12,215
Speaker 3: and you've got warehouse or office space, what are the

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Speaker 3: advantages of solar for a commercial situation one person's takes

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01:35:15,415 --> 01:35:19,095
Speaker 3: through in a farming situation for example, Are you starting

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01:35:19,135 --> 01:35:22,975
Speaker 3: to see an uptake in commercial applications of solar?

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Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, definitely seeing more commercial come through as well.

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Speaker 6: And it makes sense right for a lot of businesses,

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01:35:32,095 --> 01:35:35,215
Speaker 6: especially if they have a very long term lease, or

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Speaker 6: they are the building that they're operating out of, or

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01:35:39,535 --> 01:35:43,815
Speaker 6: the owner of the building is happy with putting solar

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01:35:43,815 --> 01:35:49,735
Speaker 6: on the roof. A lot of businesses are operating during

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01:35:49,735 --> 01:35:53,335
Speaker 6: some light hours, yeah, you know, and so their main

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Speaker 6: loads are during the day, which can be brought down

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Speaker 6: by the use of solo on the roof. There is

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Speaker 6: a little bit of is there enough roof space for

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Speaker 6: the amount of power needed the type of business, but

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Speaker 6: it's you know, it's still a really good option to

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Speaker 6: reduce some costs.

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Speaker 3: Another quick question, I am someone who has sixteen panels

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01:36:18,415 --> 01:36:21,535
Speaker 3: already and they actually have Tesla power wall as well.

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Speaker 3: Can do you easily add solar panels and nets in general?

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Speaker 3: If you've got ten and you want to do fourteen,

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Speaker 3: can you do that?

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Speaker 6: You can? You can? There's there is a little bit

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Speaker 6: of resistance from solar companies to add panels to other companies, right, right,

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Speaker 6: And that's you know where that sort of comes from

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01:36:47,295 --> 01:36:54,095
Speaker 6: is around warranties and guarantees, especially around electrical work. One

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01:36:54,135 --> 01:36:57,615
Speaker 6: company does the work on one person's home and then

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Speaker 6: someone else they want someone else to do additional work

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01:37:01,495 --> 01:37:08,095
Speaker 6: on their system. That company can't guarantee the work done before,

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01:37:08,375 --> 01:37:10,775
Speaker 6: and so adding to it is a liability because they's

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Speaker 6: sort of take on the responsibility of everything else. You know,

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01:37:14,095 --> 01:37:19,215
Speaker 6: if they're connecting to the original system, right, it is possible,

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Speaker 6: best usually to go back to the company that did

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Speaker 6: your solar system originally. If that's non an option. You

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01:37:27,975 --> 01:37:32,615
Speaker 6: can have a parallel system, right having another one there

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01:37:32,895 --> 01:37:35,295
Speaker 6: as well. And I mean some companies will have more

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01:37:35,335 --> 01:37:39,735
Speaker 6: appetite to add to an existing system than more than others. Right,

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Speaker 6: So it might be a case of shopping around a

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Speaker 6: little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now talking about shopping around, because we're only a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes. One of the things that I found

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Speaker 3: fascinating the other day is I was reading about various

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Speaker 3: banks and I'm not sure whether they all do it,

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01:37:53,775 --> 01:37:58,255
Speaker 3: but certainly a number of banks are offering essentially eco loans. Right.

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Speaker 3: So they're saying, if you're doing something to increase the

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Speaker 3: sustainability of your house, you can borrow a certain amount

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Speaker 3: for very low rates. And we're talking like one percent.

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Speaker 3: And I know a couple of people who have taken

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01:38:11,815 --> 01:38:15,615
Speaker 3: that up to add, for example, solar to their houses.

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Speaker 3: So is this something that you've encountered as well.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I would say it's like the vast majority of

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Speaker 6: people that get solar presently are taking advantage of these loans. Wow.

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Speaker 6: And so it's most large banks. So you need to

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Speaker 6: check with your mortgage provider if that is one of yours.

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Speaker 6: But basically the different terms three or four of them

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Speaker 6: are three years at one percent for up to eighty

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Speaker 6: thousand dollars for things like solar yep. And then also

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Speaker 6: one of them is five years fifty grand, zero interest. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and so you need to have a mortgage with the bank,

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01:39:01,535 --> 01:39:04,455
Speaker 6: haven't had a certain level of equity, But then it's

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Speaker 6: very cheap lending in order to get something that will

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Speaker 6: further reduce the costs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right, So that that's with people checking out, Marlon.

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Speaker 3: We've we've got some more texts. Unfortune we run out

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Speaker 3: of time, so I'm going to keep them and I

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Speaker 3: think we'll get you back at some stage. But if

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Speaker 3: people want, if people have got technical questions and they

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Speaker 3: need answers, they can call you guys. Yeah, absolutely, what's

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Speaker 3: the number?

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Speaker 6: Got me on the spot there one moment.

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Speaker 3: Please, no worries at all.

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Speaker 6: I used to have it ingrained in my mind, but

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Speaker 6: that's all right. This one's sick ALRIGHTY one hundred five

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Speaker 6: three seven six five to seven. Alternatively, you can send

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Speaker 6: me an email as well, and then I can direct

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Speaker 6: you in the right place. And that's my name, Marlon M.

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Speaker 7: A R.

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Speaker 6: L o O N at Lightforce dot com dot Oh brilliant.

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Speaker 3: I think your inbox is going to be full shortly.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of questions, answer the questions. Really

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time this morning, Marlon. Thank you very much

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Speaker 3: for your time. Take care all of this. So that's

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01:40:14,895 --> 01:40:17,975
Speaker 3: Marlin from life Force solo and very generously. If you've

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Speaker 3: got a specific question, he's happy to answer it so,

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Speaker 3: Marlon at lifeforce dot co dot m zaid right, we're

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Speaker 3: going to jump into the garden. The Red Climb passed

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Speaker 3: in just a moment.

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